[newbie]
Hi, I have just started a Java course and visited the sun website in order to download the development kit. I remember the last time I considered learning java JDK 1.2 was in vogue. Now I notice they have SDK. Can anyone explain the differences.? From the learning point of view can I install SDK while my course is going to be based on JDK? I am currently using Win 2000 platform but would like to progress to Linux when I feel comfortable with it. What is the difference ( from the point of view of the java toolkit ) in Java development on linux and/or windoz. Regards Siavash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Think its time for farewell
Hello, I really hope you don't mind me asking a windoz question. You see, I have still not managed to install Mandrake. Until I do I would like to continue receiving mail from this list for future reference. However since the average daily mail from this list tends to range between 50 to 80. I simply do not have time sift through all. For this reason I would like to create a rule in Outlook to move specific mail by subject to designated folders in my inbox. I very thank you in advance for your co-operation. Here is the description of the problem. I have recently gone over the MS Technet pages Hi guys, been hoping some of you might be kind enough to help me filter the massive amount of mail I get from this listing using the Outlook Rules wizard. I guess assistance with MS is a repugnant idea to most. I have not managed to get help to install my Mandrake 8 either. I guess as a total newbie I need to seek support locally and come back as with more intermidiate skills. Farewell for now Siavash http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q196212 and applied rules as instructions but the rules do not seem to be working. I am trying to create rules to tell Outlook to put messages with specific words in content of message, body or subject field, to be moved in specially designated folders. I select TOOLS, RULES WIZARD, NEW, then I select Move messages based on content, finally I insert the relevant content/words to base the relocation along with specifiying which folder to move it in. However I find each time I download mail they still pile up in Inbox rather than moving them to the specified folder locations. I even tried the RUN NOW button which displayed the copy dialog box, but I still find that messages do not move to specified folders on each download. Can you throw some light on this? Is this a ISP server configuration issue? I am using Windoz 2000 Professional with Outlook 2000 installed from Office 2000. Sincererly S.S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Think its time for farewell
Jennifer, my most sincere thanks to you for that solution as it worked. I seem to have missed implementing the last couple of steps, namely to check to turn on rule before clicking finish. In the meantime I have in excess of 100 messages in my inbox to move to approriate folder. Up till now I have been spending between 30 to 45 mins per day relocating them. I guess with your help I can afford the time to stick around. Again thanks Siavash Sefidvash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jennifer Sent: 15 September 2001 01:59 To: Siavash Sefidvash; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Think its time for farewell Siavash, I just did a quick run through on my windows box using the following instructions: they are a little crude, but they worked. Try running through again and see if you can't get it to work Tools Rules wizard New Move messages based on content with newbie in the subject or body Move it to the newbie folder (make sure you have a newbie folder) Choose next Make sure with specific words in the subject or body is checked. look at the lower pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Make sure the move it the the speciefied folder is filled out look at the lowe pane and make sure the info is filled in Next Add any exceptions to the rule. Next Name rule Check Turn on this rule box Finish Then click run now Make sure the check box next to the rule you want to run is checked on the next screen. Also check the apply rules to and run in folder (inbox) are correct. the rule should now run. -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include wisdom.h void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] a positive end to OT
Really nice sentiment. Enjoyed the read in prayerful hope that this dream can come true soon. Man's nature seems to need to experience pain before he can grow. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jennifer Sent: 15 September 2001 02:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] a positive end to OT Someone from Boston sent these sentiments out that I would like to share. I know that some don't want OT on this list, but lets end our discussions as friends... Subject: For the book... Yesterday's events have had a profound impact on me...especially once I got home last night and had no distraction to take my mind off of it. The 2 main thoughts I've had I thought were worth sharing with my people. One is a somewhat frivolous metaphor, yet it's accurate. The other...a more serious consideration. The metaphor is this. I was driving to work today and thinking about how yesterday Governor Swift said it's important to get back to business as normal. As I looked around at all the people heading into work, I started thinking that we're like the Whos down in Whoville. The terrorists are the grinch that tried to steal Christmas yesterday, but today we're holding hands and singing because we're not going to let them break our spirit. This led me to the second realization... Did any of you notice what I noticed this morning? No road rage. None from within my car and none from without. Today, for the first time in what seems like years, I felt something for my fellow man that was actually positive. I felt a connection as we all try to come to terms with this...as we all are simultaneously experiencing the exact same emotion. Suddenly, letting someone in front of me felt better than speeding up to spite them. Suddenly, the cars around me became more than just faceless enemies. I began to actually look at the faces attached to the souls within each vehicle and I realized they are just like me. Just desperately trying to make it through another day in an increasingly frightening world that sometimes makes us feel more vulnerable than we can deal with admitting. Perhaps if we as a society can hang on to this feeling...perhaps if we can smile at just one stranger today instead of glaring suspiciously at them. Perhaps if we can let just one person out in traffic...or back off the person in front of us by just 10 feet causing us to reach our destination a mere nanosecond later...perhaps then the tens of thousands of people who lost their lives yesterday will not have died in vain. If we can pull just one positive thing out of this staggering nightmare...maybe God...who's up there crying his eyes out right now...can smile again. Just a thought. --- -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include wisdom.h void ignorance (it offers no value) -- Jennifer #221463 Yahoo IM: jlynn2k #include wisdom.h void ignorance (it offers no value) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] What are we coming to?
I second that. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Art Rowe Sent: 11 September 2001 23:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] What are we coming to? Thank God for bridges of reason and mutual help which stretch beyond national boundaries and communities, such as our Linux friendships and our Mandrake groups. Art - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] What are we coming to? With 4 planes hijacked and crashed... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
But as I mentioned earlier web editing tools such as Dreamweaver and UltraDev, InterDev are more important for me. I want to concentrate on server side script and leave the client side stuff to the likes of Dreamweaver. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sridhar Dhanapalan Sent: 09 September 2001 04:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ah Pook Subject: Re: FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:43:01 -0700, Ah Pook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9/8/2001 7:18:43 AM, etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about a million people are going to tell you (and they are correct) that the GIMP is every bit as good as photoshop, and they do not have the US gov. put people in jail for talking about how poor their encryption is under the DMCA. And a million graphic designers would reply that Gimp doesn't have Pantone colors, and probably never will. It's useless for a lot of people. /// That would be The GIMP's main shortcoming. From my understanding, CYMK support in PhotoShop is the result of licensing from printer manufacturers, something which The GIMP can't do. Besides that, it has _far_ more powerful scripting (Script Fu) than PhotoShop and is ahead in a few other areas. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ?
Whats RH??? Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: 09 September 2001 17:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Uninstall Linux ? On Sunday 09 September 2001 05:18, Michel Clasquin wrote: On another note, I think the members of this list ought to give themselves a little pat on the back - somebody decides to return to windows, asks how to do it, and apart from a few wry ironic remarks, he does not get flamed, just the instruction he asked for. Good work. Well, if someone chooses what he really wants, we are not here to make him change his choices. We are here to assure he _HAS_ a choice. We also help out people with RH questions (and if you are curious, join a RH list for a couple of days and you will easily reach the correct answer as a logical conclusion). Other OSes may be about proselyting. Mandrake is about choice. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
Apologies for sounding naive, but is not fair to get paid for your efforts.? If not Zhiang Zemin and Chinese polit bureaux would really like to hire you...that part of the world is Mecca for this sort of thing. I don't mind paying £100 for a developers application. However I realize that's wishful thinking, I do agree that like pop and movie stars some developer's incomes are disproportionate. As long as we are prepared to tame the beast of capitalism and market forces there should be no reason why we can't have fair recognition of ones labour. Human worth over profits. ( note my avoidance of the term HR, the latter has come to mean different beast altogether ). Sincerely S.S. -Original Message- From: Rick [Kitty5] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 September 2001 10:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already Hi, I would want applications like Dreamweaver UltraDev and to a lesser extent PhotoShop before I could comfortably abandon Windows. Someone ought bring pressure to bare on Macromedia and thier ilk. as far as desktop machines go, windows boxes rule the world, Macromedia (or any other big player) are not going to port their product line until to any platform until its commercially viable and then there is going to be pressure for the software to be free, and the possibility that some clever open source bods will ape the entire product and give it away - in many ways Linux is a commercial developers nightmare, damned if you do and damned if you don't Rick Kitty5 WebDesign - http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources - http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - FAX : +44 (01270) 251105 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FW: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already
Hi, I would want applications like Dreamweaver UltraDev and to a lesser extent PhotoShop before I could comfortably abandon Windows. Someone ought bring pressure to bare on Macromedia and thier ilk. Another issue would be that of plug n play. If LINUX could have that and take the headache of driver configuration it would be a real dream come true. I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 yet on account of NIC detection/installation. It's an old ISA 3COM 10 MB ethernet ( none combo ) that is easily picked up in windoz. I am very new to LINUX. Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dr. Evil Sent: 07 September 2001 04:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OT: Win XP hacked already Tom, other than gaming what uses do you see for Windows? I've been looking forward to scrubbing it from my hd's, but your comment gives me pause. As far as I know, for most users, there is no use aside from gaming, and even for gaming, there are native Linux games, and apparently quite a few Windows games run under Wine. The other exception is that there are quite a few applications that can ONLY run on Windows for some specific purposes. Perhaps you need Autocad, or some other specific app which is Windows only. But if you're just an ordinary user who surfs the web, does word processing, this kind of thing, you don't need Windows at all. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Network Card compatibility
As I mentioned in my previous mail, I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 on my system. The installation gets to the point of asigning root and user password. The problems arise at the NIC detection. My card is 3COM ISA Ethernet 10 MB per sec ( not a combo ). I don't know much else about the model. It gives me a choice of the following. 3COM 3c90x ( Cyclone/Hurricane/Tornado ) 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 3COM 3c515 3COM 3c59x(Vortex) I have tried all of the above and none of them seem to work. Sirdhar was kind enough to suggest I should go into BIOS and set plug play to NO. I cheked and it was already set up that way. Since I don't know the exact driver name of the NIC I don't know how to check whether Mandrake 8 supports it. People in the know tell me that Mandrake 8 is so well supported that if I don't find the spacific drivers under its list, then LINUX does not support it. This strange since my card is anything but cutting edge to be supported. Unfortunately I cannot check the exact driver name in device manager since Mandrake screwed up triple boot menu. I could not boot into anything. Kept getting messages to the effect ...This is not a bootable device, insert a bootable floppy and try again Since I neglected to create a Windows 2000 repair disk, there was nothing else I could think of but to wipe everything and start again. This is not my main machine ( just for practice ) so even though drastic, it did't have huge loss implications. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael D. Viron Sent: 07 September 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Cards I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
FW: [newbie] Network Card compatibility
Hi again, I just booted into windows and saw my NIC is listed as 3COM Etherlink III ISA 3C509B-Combo. Apologies for lack of observance on my part. S now, can anyone tell me if this NIC is supported by Mandrake 8 and if so, why is not being picked up.? Thanks guys. Siavash -Original Message- From: Siavash Sefidvash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 September 2001 02:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] Network Card compatibility As I mentioned in my previous mail, I still have not managed to install Mandrake 8 on my system. The installation gets to the point of asigning root and user password. The problems arise at the NIC detection. My card is 3COM ISA Ethernet 10 MB per sec ( not a combo ). I don't know much else about the model. It gives me a choice of the following. 3COM 3c90x ( Cyclone/Hurricane/Tornado ) 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 3COM 3c515 3COM 3c59x(Vortex) I have tried all of the above and none of them seem to work. Sirdhar was kind enough to suggest I should go into BIOS and set plug play to NO. I cheked and it was already set up that way. Since I don't know the exact driver name of the NIC I don't know how to check whether Mandrake 8 supports it. People in the know tell me that Mandrake 8 is so well supported that if I don't find the spacific drivers under its list, then LINUX does not support it. This strange since my card is anything but cutting edge to be supported. Unfortunately I cannot check the exact driver name in device manager since Mandrake screwed up triple boot menu. I could not boot into anything. Kept getting messages to the effect ...This is not a bootable device, insert a bootable floppy and try again Since I neglected to create a Windows 2000 repair disk, there was nothing else I could think of but to wipe everything and start again. This is not my main machine ( just for practice ) so even though drastic, it did't have huge loss implications. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Siavash -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael D. Viron Sent: 07 September 2001 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Network Cards I do want to start using Mandrake, and I'm willing to pick up a new network card if that's what I have to do. If I do, I was wondering if there was a list somewhere that I could bring into a shop so I would choose a card that Mandrake would recognize. If you can't get the dlink card to work (and I remember having problems with dlinks and the ne cards), you should pick up a 3com card. I've never had any problems with everything from the early 3c509's to the newer 3c905's. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] LILO install Uninstall
Hi all, Few days ago I sent out a long message regarding first time installation woes. Amit and Dennis were kind enough to respond but alas their suggestions has not solved the problems. So I will split the issues into byte sizes in order to encourage more suggestions. Since installing Linux 8 I have lost my triple windows boot. I.e. Win2K Pro, Server and Win98. Can anyone think of the command for installing uninstalling LILO??? I have already booted into Mandrake boot disk. Selected F1 at main menu. Typed rescue. At the [root@rescue /]# I typed LILO -U when this did not work I tried the lower case -u. Still did not work. Can anyone help? Sincerely Siavash Sefidvash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] LILO install Uninstall
I forgot to mention that [root@rescue /]# I typed LILO -U gives an error message about command not being found same for the lower case u. Cheers Siavash -Original Message- From: Siavash Sefidvash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 September 2001 00:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] LILO install Uninstall Hi all, Few days ago I sent out a long message regarding first time installation woes. Amit and Dennis were kind enough to respond but alas their suggestions has not solved the problems. So I will split the issues into byte sizes in order to encourage more suggestions. Since installing Linux 8 I have lost my triple windows boot. I.e. Win2K Pro, Server and Win98. Can anyone think of the command for installing uninstalling LILO??? I have already booted into Mandrake boot disk. Selected F1 at main menu. Typed rescue. At the [root@rescue /]# I typed LILO -U when this did not work I tried the lower case -u. Still did not work. Can anyone help? Sincerely Siavash Sefidvash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
