Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-24 Thread RobertPRowe

In a message dated 4/24/00 11:58:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 First problem:  LILO.  Right now, I have to disable the
 primary hard drive
   in BIOS to boot my Linux drive.  When I boot the Linux
 drive, LILO asks me
   if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive.  I'd love to
 be able to make
   a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up.
 I attempted to
   reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am
 not getting
   something.  I have the feeling that I need to somehow
 configure LILO on my
   Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and
 what boots first.
   Any ideas/suggestions? 

What I did was went and instead of having to configure LILO and mess with 
wether linuxconf would work, bought System Commander which when installed on 
the "primary/master" drive, works like a champ.




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread Alan Shoemaker

KathleenI'm suspicious of something here.  If your primary
drive needs to be disabled to allow Linux to boot then I suspect
that you probably installed Linux with the primary drive
disabled as well, right?  If that's so, then it'll probably be
easier to reinstall Linux under normal conditions than to try
and fix it to boot under normal conditions as it exists now.

Alan


The Russells wrote:
 
 First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?!
 command prompt?!) who intended to install LinuxPPC about this time last
 year.  I never got around to it.  About three weeks ago I bought a PC and
 decided to make some use of it by getting a second hard drive and installing
 Mandrake on it.  Call me crazy, but the idea of partitioning something I use
 every day scares me.  I have heard too many stories about partitons breaking
 down, I suppose.
 
 After much gnashing of teeth and general hassle, I got the thing mounted
 (damn these cheap micro ATX cases!) and just finally got Mandrake installed,
 after trying four times.  It is a 10GB Western Digital, if that matters.  My
 Windows 98 hard drive is primary master.  My Mandrake hard drive is primary
 slave.  I have nothing for a secondary master.  My CD-ROM is the secondary
 slave.
 
 First problem:  LILO.  Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive
 in BIOS to boot my Linux drive.  When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me
 if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive.  I'd love to be able to make
 a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up.  I attempted to
 reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting
 something.  I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my
 Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first.
 Any ideas/suggestions?
 
 Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake
 install.  Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy.
 It's definitely not.  I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was
 under the impression that it was supported by Linux.  It is a Rockwell ACF
 II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language).  Today I read
 something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by
 Linux.  Was I misled?  Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem
 webpage?
 
 Sheesh.  I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here.  Bear with me.
 Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"!
 
 Thanks,
 Kathleen




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread The Russells

Alan,

Doh!  You are right!  I did install Mandrake when there were no other drives
even hooked up--I was having a lot of trouble, and was beginning ot think it
was my ribbon cable, so I unhooked my Windows hard drive and attached that
connection to the Linux hard drive.  Anyhoo, I will reinstall Linux.  There
are some things missing from the recommended install that I want anyway.

Thanks,
Kathleen




Re: [Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues]

2000-04-21 Thread Michael Holt

Actually, if you were to run to separate drives, and the first drive had no dos 
partitions on
it, Windows wouldn't even recognize it.  It would still call the second drive 'C' 
(because
non-dos partitions don't get a drive letter).  At least that makes sense in my head, 
well
that's another story.

I've played with different configurations and it's hard to remember sometimes what 
works and
what doesn't.  Lilo has given me the warning in the past that the /boot partition has 
to be
before the 1024th cylinder, but I say 'ok' and it works anyway.  Right now I'm using 
the BeOS
boot manager (uninstalled the OS because at that time it didn't support my vid card, 
but left
the boot manager cause it works good) and it doesn't care where your OS is installed.  
At one
time, I had 4 different OS's booting off of my primary drive; 1. WinNT 4, 2. Win98, 3.
Mandrake, 4. BeOS 4.5.

This worked just fine with the BeOS boot manager booting all of them.

Jaguar wrote:

 Not true...the installed to Drive of ALL the software is set to C Drive, ie:
 path to files installed C:\office\word\blabla.exe
 That is much more time consuming to change all the installed DIR's locations
 in Windows than setting up the LILO boot.
 HTH
 Jaguar

 Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about switching your drives?  If you make Linux /dev/hda and Windows
  /dev/hdb (make Linux your primary master and put windows on your primary
  slave).  You shouldn't have to change too much, just the jumpers on your
  Windows drive.
 
  I would like to say that I have two drives.  On the first (20GB) I've got
  WinNT, Win98 and finally, Mandrake Linux.  On the second (13GB), I have
 extra
  storage space for FAT32 and Linux.  This works great for me, I've never
 lost
  any data.
 
  Mike
 
  The Russells wrote:
 
   Yup, I tried it.  I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it and
 it
   told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file.
  
   Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?!  Any
   excuse, any at all...
  
   An iMac, eh?  Cool.  Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this
 Linux
   thing came around.
  
   Thanks,
   Kathleen
 
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  The Penguins are coming!!!
 
  
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.

 
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
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Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread John


If kathleen has Partition Magic and Boot Magic, she can simply run the set
up for Boot Magic and be able to run both OS.  She needs a multiboot loader
on her primary hard disk that can launch her systems.  She may also be able
to re-install LILO to the MBR without clobbering her install.  One of the
great things about GNU/Linux, once you begin to understand the ins and outs
is that reinstalls are generally unecessary.

JWD

On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:20:41 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues
 
 KathleenI'm suspicious of something here.  If your primary
 drive needs to be disabled to allow Linux to boot then I suspect
 that you probably installed Linux with the primary drive
 disabled as well, right?  If that's so, then it'll probably be
 easier to reinstall Linux under normal conditions than to try
 and fix it to boot under normal conditions as it exists now.
 
 Alan
 
 
 The Russells wrote:
  
  First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS
 anyway?!
  command prompt?!) who intended to install LinuxPPC about this time last
  year.  I never got around to it.  About three weeks ago I bought a PC
 and
  decided to make some use of it by getting a second hard drive and
 installing
  Mandrake on it.  Call me crazy, but the idea of partitioning something
 I use
  every day scares me.  I have heard too many stories about partitons
 breaking
  down, I suppose.
  
  After much gnashing of teeth and general hassle, I got the thing
 mounted
  (damn these cheap micro ATX cases!) and just finally got Mandrake
 installed,
  after trying four times.  It is a 10GB Western Digital, if that
 matters.  My
  Windows 98 hard drive is primary master.  My Mandrake hard drive is
 primary
  slave.  I have nothing for a secondary master.  My CD-ROM is the
 secondary
  slave.
  
  First problem:  LILO.  Right now, I have to disable the primary hard
 drive
  in BIOS to boot my Linux drive.  When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks
 me
  if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive.  I'd love to be able to
 make
  a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up.  I attempted
 to
  reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting
  something.  I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on
 my
  Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots
 first.
  Any ideas/suggestions?
  
  Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake
  install.  Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy.
  It's definitely not.  I bought the confounded modem expressly because I
 was
  under the impression that it was supported by Linux.  It is a Rockwell
 ACF
  II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language).  Today I
 read
  something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported
 by
  Linux.  Was I misled?  Can anyone point me in the direction of a
 Linux-modem
  webpage?
  
  Sheesh.  I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here.  Bear with
 me.
  Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"!
  
  Thanks,
  Kathleen
 
 
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You honor, Vacerra, the ancients alone
and never praise poets, unless dead and gone
your pardon I beg, if ungracious I seem
but 'tis not worth dying to gain your esteem
--- Martial 




Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues]]

2000-04-21 Thread Jaguar

Well in my way of thinking...the BIOS assigns Drive letters weather there is a
filesystem on it or not...changing the Windows C: installed drive to somewhere
else in the chain, will still produce the file not found errors because the
drive is now assigned Drive D or more, and the installed drive was previously
C:, depending on the chain
PM IDE=C  --- of course drive letters will change with mulitple. 
PS IDE=D   partitions per drive
SM IDE=E
SS IDE=F
Now with modern BIOS's you can set to boot from A or C or D or CD-ROM or SCSI,
etc...using that may help the process...
But once Windows is installed to a drive...the Regisrty uses that as the path
to where the files are located.
HTH
Jaguar

Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, if you were to run to separate drives, and the first drive had no
dos partitions on
 it, Windows wouldn't even recognize it.  It would still call the second
drive 'C' (because
 non-dos partitions don't get a drive letter).  At least that makes sense in
my head, well
 that's another story.
 
 I've played with different configurations and it's hard to remember
sometimes what works and
 what doesn't.  Lilo has given me the warning in the past that the /boot
partition has to be
 before the 1024th cylinder, but I say 'ok' and it works anyway.  Right now
I'm using the BeOS
 boot manager (uninstalled the OS because at that time it didn't support my
vid card, but left
 the boot manager cause it works good) and it doesn't care where your OS is
installed.  At one
 time, I had 4 different OS's booting off of my primary drive; 1. WinNT 4, 2.
Win98, 3.
 Mandrake, 4. BeOS 4.5.
 
 This worked just fine with the BeOS boot manager booting all of them.
 
 Jaguar wrote:
 
  Not true...the installed to Drive of ALL the software is set to C Drive,
ie:
  path to files installed C:\office\word\blabla.exe
  That is much more time consuming to change all the installed DIR's
locations
  in Windows than setting up the LILO boot.
  HTH
  Jaguar
 
  Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How about switching your drives?  If you make Linux /dev/hda and
Windows
   /dev/hdb (make Linux your primary master and put windows on your
primary
   slave).  You shouldn't have to change too much, just the jumpers on
your
   Windows drive.
  
   I would like to say that I have two drives.  On the first (20GB) I've
got
   WinNT, Win98 and finally, Mandrake Linux.  On the second (13GB), I have
  extra
   storage space for FAT32 and Linux.  This works great for me, I've never
  lost
   any data.
  
   Mike
  
   The Russells wrote:
  
Yup, I tried it.  I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it
and
  it
told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file.
   
Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?! 
Any
excuse, any at all...
   
An iMac, eh?  Cool.  Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this
  Linux
thing came around.
   
Thanks,
Kathleen
  
   --
   
   The Penguins are coming!!!
  
   
   Michael Holt
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
 
  The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.
 
  
  Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at
http://webmail.netscape.com.
 
 --
 
 The Penguins are coming!!!
 
 
 Michael Holt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 


The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma.


Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread John




On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, "The Russells" wrote:
 . .
 You don't have a bios on Apple computers?  (No, seriously, you don't?)
 
 Nope.  I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the
 extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing.
 
 In a way a person has less control while using a Mac.  But a perosn can
 allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool.  And resetting the
 PRAM--now that's fun!
 
The BIOS is on the mother board itself and is coded on to the BIOS chip.
Without it Intel systems don't run since it loads the initial boot up
program from the MBR.  Win/DOS also has a software "BIOS" as well, one of a
pair of hidden system files that DOS (and OS/2, Win9* and NT 3*) requires. 
The NT versions used to be the MS OS/2 versions.  I don't know whether that
has changed or not.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You honor, Vacerra, the ancients alone
and never praise poets, unless dead and gone
your pardon I beg, if ungracious I seem
but 'tis not worth dying to gain your esteem
--- Martial 




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread John


Kathleen,

If your Rockwell is a "Winmodem" it isn't supported by Linux.  Basically,
any free standing modem is more likely to be safe than an internal modem. 
If the modem was really inexpensive (e.g. $20-$30) it is probably a
WinModem and expects to use Win services to fill in for its own
inadequacies.  The card is mostly an interface and the "modem" is
implemented in software on WinModems.  My own is a 3COM USR Voice Fax
Modem, but its an exspenvie one.

The other possibility is that your software is looking in the wrong place. 
When you first run your dial-up setup - I use KPPP - you need to tell the
system that the modem is on /dev/ttyS1 (if indeed it is on com2).  If your
setup points to /dev/modem, then run ls -al /dev/modem to find what it is
linked to.  /dev/modem is symbolic link and needs to point to the correct
device.

..
 Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake
 install.  Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy.
 It's definitely not.  I bought the confounded modem expressly because I
 was
 under the impression that it was supported by Linux.  It is a Rockwell
 ACF
 II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language).  Today I read
 something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by
 Linux.  Was I misled?  Can anyone point me in the direction of a
 Linux-modem
 webpage?
 
 Sheesh.  I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here.  Bear with me.
 Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"!
 
 Thanks,
 Kathleen
 
 
John Dougherty

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You honor, Vacerra, the ancients alone
and never praise poets, unless dead and gone
your pardon I beg, if ungracious I seem
but 'tis not worth dying to gain your esteem
--- Martial 




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-21 Thread Kathleen Russell, fone.net tech support

I do have the Boot Magic provided on disk 3 of Mandrake 7.  Maybe I will try
that first, and then just do an upgrade rather than a full install.  Really,
what else is it for but to tinker around with.  It's not like I have much
Stuff Of Importance on either hard drive yet, since the PC is a grand total
of about 3 weeks old.

Thanks to you all!  What a terrific group of folks to have available!

Kathleen





Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues]]

2000-04-21 Thread Michael Holt

I could be wrong, but I don't believe your bios cares what letter is on any given 
drive.  You
do however, need to tell it where your MBR resides.  That's why you can boot from a 
floppy
disk or a zip drive.  It doesn't need to know which comes first (c,d,e,f,etc), it just 
needs
the path from itself to the ide channel (master or slave) to the place where the boot 
files
live.  Is that making any sense?  To the best of my knowledge, c,d,e,f etc. is just 
Bill's
creation.  Since most people use windows, the bios just uses the language more people 
are
familiar with when it asks you what drive letter you want to boot from.  Once Windows 
gets
booted, if it doesn't see any M$ compatible partitions behind it, it will see it self 
as "c"
drive.  You can try this experiment (if you have the software laying around).  Load 
partition
magic and resize your Windows partition to leave about 50megs empty at the FRONT of 
your
drive.  Install a copy of Dos 6 and Windows 3 or equivalent and use lilo to boot 
everything.
You should have something like this:
/dev/hda1 = dos
/dev/hda2 = windows
/dev/hda3 = linux

If you don't have lilo installed on that computer, you can use your windows rescue 
disk and
fdisk to set the active partition.  Now if you boot into Win3, you shouldn't see the 
Win98
partition because win3 uses FAT16 and therefore wouldn't understand the file table.  
If you
boot Win98, Win3 will just look like a simple dos partition and therefore be given the 
drive
letter 'd' and your root partition or 'c' will be the Win98 system.  Neither one will 
see
Linux, but Linux will know right where each of them are (/dev/hda1, etc.)

I guess all that was just to say that drive letters are not set in stone on your hard 
ware.
Windows will always see itself as the main OS and therefore no matter where you put 
it, it
will always see itself as 'c'.

Tell me if that makes sense, eh?  I'm starting to get cross-eyed!

Mike

Jaguar wrote:

 Well in my way of thinking...the BIOS assigns Drive letters weather there is a
 filesystem on it or not...changing the Windows C: installed drive to somewhere
 else in the chain, will still produce the file not found errors because the
 drive is now assigned Drive D or more, and the installed drive was previously
 C:, depending on the chain
 PM IDE=C  --- of course drive letters will change with mulitple.
 PS IDE=D   partitions per drive
 SM IDE=E
 SS IDE=F
 Now with modern BIOS's you can set to boot from A or C or D or CD-ROM or SCSI,
 etc...using that may help the process...
 But once Windows is installed to a drive...the Regisrty uses that as the path
 to where the files are located.
 HTH
 Jaguar


--

The Penguins are coming!!!


Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






FW: [Re: [Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues]]

2000-04-21 Thread Paul Rodríguez



Does this mean that I could then just delete a partition with linux on it
and not have any
problems in windows even if that was the default boot drive?  (i.e. Windows
on C drive, Linux on D drive (automatically boots into Linux), can I just
delete D if I wanted to go back to windows and try a new distribution of
linux later?  Or do I have to edit the  BIOS?

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Holt
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 4:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues]]


I could be wrong, but I don't believe your bios cares what letter is on any
given drive.  You
do however, need to tell it where your MBR resides.  That's why you can boot
from a floppy
disk or a zip drive.  It doesn't need to know which comes first
(c,d,e,f,etc), it just needs
the path from itself to the ide channel (master or slave) to the place where
the boot files
live.  Is that making any sense?  To the best of my knowledge, c,d,e,f etc.
is just Bill's
creation.  Since most people use windows, the bios just uses the language
more people are
familiar with when it asks you what drive letter you want to boot from.
Once Windows gets
booted, if it doesn't see any M$ compatible partitions behind it, it will
see it self as "c"
drive.  You can try this experiment (if you have the software laying
around).  Load partition
magic and resize your Windows partition to leave about 50megs empty at the
FRONT of your
drive.  Install a copy of Dos 6 and Windows 3 or equivalent and use lilo to
boot everything.
You should have something like this:
/dev/hda1 = dos
/dev/hda2 = windows
/dev/hda3 = linux

If you don't have lilo installed on that computer, you can use your windows
rescue disk and
fdisk to set the active partition.  Now if you boot into Win3, you shouldn't
see the Win98
partition because win3 uses FAT16 and therefore wouldn't understand the file
table.  If you
boot Win98, Win3 will just look like a simple dos partition and therefore be
given the drive
letter 'd' and your root partition or 'c' will be the Win98 system.  Neither
one will see
Linux, but Linux will know right where each of them are (/dev/hda1, etc.)

I guess all that was just to say that drive letters are not set in stone on
your hard ware.
Windows will always see itself as the main OS and therefore no matter where
you put it, it
will always see itself as 'c'.

Tell me if that makes sense, eh?  I'm starting to get cross-eyed!

Mike

Jaguar wrote:

 Well in my way of thinking...the BIOS assigns Drive letters weather there
is a
 filesystem on it or not...changing the Windows C: installed drive to
somewhere
 else in the chain, will still produce the file not found errors because
the
 drive is now assigned Drive D or more, and the installed drive was
previously
 C:, depending on the chain
 PM IDE=C  --- of course drive letters will change with mulitple.
 PS IDE=D   partitions per drive
 SM IDE=E
 SS IDE=F
 Now with modern BIOS's you can set to boot from A or C or D or CD-ROM or
SCSI,
 etc...using that may help the process...
 But once Windows is installed to a drive...the Regisrty uses that as the
path
 to where the files are located.
 HTH
 Jaguar


--

The Penguins are coming!!!


Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread Michael Holt

The Russells wrote:

 First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS anyway?!
 command prompt?!)

You don't have a bios on Apple computers?  (No, seriously, you don't?)

 First problem:  LILO.  Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive
 in BIOS to boot my Linux drive.  When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me
 if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive.  I'd love to be able to make
 a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up.  I attempted to
 reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting
 something.  I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my
 Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first.
 Any ideas/suggestions?

Wow!  That would be a pain in the butt!  I'm not sure if lilo can boot from the
second hard disk, it may need to be on the primary.  You could try the
following configuration to see if it works.  Edit your /etc/lilo.conf file (as
root) to look like this:


boot=/dev/hdb
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
vga=normal
default=linux (or windows, whichever one you want to boot automatically)
keytable=/boot/us.klt
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdb3
append=""
read-only
other=/dev/hda
label=windows
table=/dev/hda

When you are done, save and exit then run the command 'lilo' without the quotes
from the command line (open a terminal window or leave your GUI).  Reboot and
see what happens.

 Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake
 install.  Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy.
 It's definitely not.  I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was
 under the impression that it was supported by Linux.  It is a Rockwell ACF
 II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language).  Today I read
 something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by
 Linux.  Was I misled?  Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem
 webpage?

I used to have a modem-for-linux web page written down somewhere, I'll see if I
can find it.

 Sheesh.  I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here.  Bear with me.
 Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"!

 Thanks,
 Kathleen

Have fun!  Mike

--

The Penguins are coming!!!


Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread Anthony Huereca


 First problem:  LILO.  Right now, I have to disable the primary hard drive
 in BIOS to boot my Linux drive.  When I boot the Linux drive, LILO asks me
 if I want to boot to Linux or my floppy drive.  I'd love to be able to make
 a choice between Windows and Linux as everything boots up.  I attempted to
 reconfigure LILO, at the command prompt, but obviously I am not getting
 something.  I have the feeling that I need to somehow configure LILO on my
 Windows hard drive, since that is my primary master and what boots first.
 Any ideas/suggestions?


Where did you install LILO? I have my system set up the same way (Windows on
the primary, Linux on the slave) and I have no problems dual booting. LILO
should be installed on the primary drive, in the Master Boot Record. If that's
the problem, you can change with linuxconf. Type "linuxconf" as root, and then
go to "Boot Mode". Set the LILO location to /dev/hda and that should fix it.

 Second, I thought my modem was configured properly during the Mandrake
 install.  Whenever I try to use it in Linux, it says the modem is busy.
 It's definitely not.  I bought the confounded modem expressly because I was
 under the impression that it was supported by Linux.  It is a Rockwell ACF
 II 56k data fax modem, on COM port 2 (in windows language).  Today I read
 something somewhere that suggested Rockwells aren't usually supported by
 Linux.  Was I misled?  Can anyone point me in the direction of a Linux-modem
 webpage?
 

I'm not sure what's wrong with your modem, but the web page you want is 
http://linmodems.org/


 Sheesh.  I realize I sound like a babe in the woods here.  Bear with me.
 Thank goodness this list is labeled "newbie"!
 

Don't worry about it. We were all newbies at one time. : )

 Thanks,
 Kathleen
-- 
Anthony Huereca
http://m3000.1wh.com
Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. 




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread The Russells

 The Russells wrote:

  First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS
anyway?!
  command prompt?!)

 and Michael responded:

You don't have a bios on Apple computers?  (No, seriously, you don't?)

Nope.  I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the
extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing.

In a way a person has less control while using a Mac.  But a perosn can
allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool.  And resetting the
PRAM--now that's fun!

Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek,
Kathleen






Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread Michael Holt

I'll have to keep you in mind; I'm planning to buy an iMac this summer and
I don't have a clue how to run one!

Have you tried the lilo fix yet?  I'm curious to see if it works!

Mike

The Russells wrote:

  The Russells wrote:
 
   First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS
 anyway?!
   command prompt?!)
 
  and Michael responded:
 
 You don't have a bios on Apple computers?  (No, seriously, you don't?)

 Nope.  I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the
 extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing.

 In a way a person has less control while using a Mac.  But a perosn can
 allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool.  And resetting the
 PRAM--now that's fun!

 Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek,
 Kathleen

--

The Penguins are coming!!!


Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Ng Kuan Cheok



Michael Holt wrote:

 I'll have to keep you in mind; I'm planning to buy an iMac this summer and
 I don't have a clue how to run one!

 Have you tried the lilo fix yet?  I'm curious to see if it works!

 Mike

 The Russells wrote:

   The Russells wrote:
  
First, a little background.  I am a native Mac user (what is a BIOS
  anyway?!
command prompt?!)
  
   and Michael responded:
  
  You don't have a bios on Apple computers?  (No, seriously, you don't?)
 
  Nope.  I suppose the most similar thing to BIOS in a Mac would be the
  extension manager, but it's certainly not the same thing.
 
  In a way a person has less control while using a Mac.  But a perosn can
  allocate programs more or less memory, which is cool.  And resetting the
  PRAM--now that's fun!
 
  Once a Mac geek, always a Mac geek,
  Kathleen

 --
 
 The Penguins are coming!!!

 
 Michael Holt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread The Russells

Yup, I tried it.  I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it and it
told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file.

Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?!  Any
excuse, any at all...

An iMac, eh?  Cool.  Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this Linux
thing came around.

Thanks,
Kathleen




Re: [newbie] LILO and modem issues

2000-04-20 Thread Michael Holt

How about switching your drives?  If you make Linux /dev/hda and Windows
/dev/hdb (make Linux your primary master and put windows on your primary
slave).  You shouldn't have to change too much, just the jumpers on your
Windows drive.

I would like to say that I have two drives.  On the first (20GB) I've got
WinNT, Win98 and finally, Mandrake Linux.  On the second (13GB), I have extra
storage space for FAT32 and Linux.  This works great for me, I've never lost
any data.

Mike

The Russells wrote:

 Yup, I tried it.  I ran "lilo" at the command prompt after I saved it and it
 told me /dev/hdb is not a regular file.

 Maybe this is a good excuse to get a whole new and different box?!  Any
 excuse, any at all...

 An iMac, eh?  Cool.  Mine is grape and is quite neglected since this Linux
 thing came around.

 Thanks,
 Kathleen

--

The Penguins are coming!!!


Michael Holt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]