Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
Many thanks Anne, John and Pete. I'm pretty sure I tried burning straight to disk (and at speeds as low as 1x) without success. However, I'll have to check it out properly and.pick up this thread in a couple of months when I'm in front of the PC again. John, could you say more about the MB sum in Master tracks? This isn't the calculate size, is it? Doug At 13.52 03/04/2003 +0100, you wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 11:09 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip I've had problems with XCDroast,trying to copy data files. Following all those steps (disabling all the rockridge, joliet options except the one recommended for backup CDs) I was able to write out OK only on one occasion. Ever since then, everything goes fine until the actual burning, when it terminates prematurely, having written for about 0.06s.Doesn't seem to make any difference whether I try single or multi-session, CD-R or CD-RW. Any ideas? (Sorry I can't give the exact error message - I don't have that PC here; it's about 700 miles away) I've never had problems with burning data disks until I tried to burn this bootable one, which is why I thought it was linked with the boot image. I normally add directories and files to the list, excluding unnecessary ones if the collection is too big. If the last tab can calculate the sum without errors they burn fine - though it pays to burn at slowish speeds - 8x is right for most people. I don't burn to an image, I burn straight to disk, and it works. Anne Just a thought, maybe nothing, but you didn't mention doing the MB sum part of the preparation, in master tracks , I think it does more than the obvious. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd - SOLVED
On Friday 04 Apr 2003 7:08 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 8:54 pm, Peter Watson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 18:59, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 6:47 pm, Miark wrote: Anne In XCDRoast 1) you first set up a directory, in 'Settings''HD Settings' which will contain your ISO image 2)click 'create CD', click 'master tracks', select files you want to include in right hand window (File/Directory View) click 'add' and files appear in left hand window (session view) 3)click 'create session/image' tab, click 'master to image file' (this is in the directory you set up in 1) Although I don't normally master to image file, this is familiar territory. I had a few minutes to spare today, so I tried to burn the image - and failed! The error message is attached. The image file that it could not find exists, at 1.4MB, and the path was entered using browse to be sure it was right. I'm really at a loss with this one. Thanks to an off-list post the mystery is solved. By using the browse button I had given an absolute path to boot.img, not a relative one. This corrected, the image created successfully. Thanks, Kathy. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 8:54 pm, Peter Watson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 18:59, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 6:47 pm, Miark wrote: Anne In XCDRoast 1) you first set up a directory, in 'Settings''HD Settings' which will contain your ISO image 2)click 'create CD', click 'master tracks', select files you want to include in right hand window (File/Directory View) click 'add' and files appear in left hand window (session view) 3)click 'create session/image' tab, click 'master to image file' (this is in the directory you set up in 1) Although I don't normally master to image file, this is familiar territory. I had a few minutes to spare today, so I tried to burn the image - and failed! The error message is attached. The image file that it could not find exists, at 1.4MB, and the path was entered using browse to be sure it was right. I'm really at a loss with this one. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. mkisofs 1.15a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Scanning /home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix Scanning /home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix/Demos Scanning /home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix/Demos/Audio Scanning /home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix/knoppix Scanning /home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix/Talks Writing: Initial Padbock Start Block 0 Done with: Initial Padbock Block(s)16 Writing: Primary Volume Descriptor Start Block 16 Done with: Primary Volume Descriptor Block(s)1 Writing: Eltorito Volume Descriptor Start Block 17 call to search_tree_file with an absolute path, stripping initial path separator. Hope this was intended... mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image '/home/anne/Desktop/Knoppix/knoppix/boot.img' ! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
snip On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 21:54, Peter Watson wrote: In XCDRoast 1) you first set up a directory, in 'Settings''HD Settings' which will contain your ISO image 2)click 'create CD', click 'master tracks', select files you want to include in right hand window (File/Directory View) click 'add' and files appear in left hand window (session view) 3)click 'create session/image' tab, click 'master to image file' (this is in the directory you set up in 1) 4)click 'write tracks' (at side), click 'write tracks' (at bottom) Eh Voila, note you may also need to look through all the myriad of other options along the way to be sure they are ok, eg things like rockridge or joliet. I've had problems with XCDroast,trying to copy data files. Following all those steps (disabling all the rockridge, joliet options except the one recommended for backup CDs) I was able to write out OK only on one occasion. Ever since then, everything goes fine until the actual burning, when it terminates prematurely, having written for about 0.06s.Doesn't seem to make any difference whether I try single or multi-session, CD-R or CD-RW. Any ideas? (Sorry I can't give the exact error message - I don't have that PC here; it's about 700 miles away) DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 11:09 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip I've had problems with XCDroast,trying to copy data files. Following all those steps (disabling all the rockridge, joliet options except the one recommended for backup CDs) I was able to write out OK only on one occasion. Ever since then, everything goes fine until the actual burning, when it terminates prematurely, having written for about 0.06s.Doesn't seem to make any difference whether I try single or multi-session, CD-R or CD-RW. Any ideas? (Sorry I can't give the exact error message - I don't have that PC here; it's about 700 miles away) I've never had problems with burning data disks until I tried to burn this bootable one, which is why I thought it was linked with the boot image. I normally add directories and files to the list, excluding unnecessary ones if the collection is too big. If the last tab can calculate the sum without errors they burn fine - though it pays to burn at slowish speeds - 8x is right for most people. I don't burn to an image, I burn straight to disk, and it works. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 11:09 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip I've had problems with XCDroast,trying to copy data files. Following all those steps (disabling all the rockridge, joliet options except the one recommended for backup CDs) I was able to write out OK only on one occasion. Ever since then, everything goes fine until the actual burning, when it terminates prematurely, having written for about 0.06s.Doesn't seem to make any difference whether I try single or multi-session, CD-R or CD-RW. Any ideas? (Sorry I can't give the exact error message - I don't have that PC here; it's about 700 miles away) I've never had problems with burning data disks until I tried to burn this bootable one, which is why I thought it was linked with the boot image. I normally add directories and files to the list, excluding unnecessary ones if the collection is too big. If the last tab can calculate the sum without errors they burn fine - though it pays to burn at slowish speeds - 8x is right for most people. I don't burn to an image, I burn straight to disk, and it works. Anne Just a thought, maybe nothing, but you didn't mention doing the MB sum part of the preparation, in master tracks , I think it does more than the obvious. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 12:03, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 11:09 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: snip I've had problems with XCDroast,trying to copy data files. Following all those steps (disabling all the rockridge, joliet options except the one recommended for backup CDs) I was able to write out OK only on one occasion. Ever since then, everything goes fine until the actual burning, when it terminates prematurely, having written for about 0.06s.Doesn't seem to make any difference whether I try single or multi-session, CD-R or CD-RW. Any ideas? (Sorry I can't give the exact error message - I don't have that PC here; it's about 700 miles away) I've never had problems with burning data disks until I tried to burn this bootable one, which is why I thought it was linked with the boot image. I normally add directories and files to the list, excluding unnecessary ones if the collection is too big. If the last tab can calculate the sum without errors they burn fine - though it pays to burn at slowish speeds - 8x is right for most people. I don't burn to an image, I burn straight to disk, and it works. Anne There are two options, one is to create an ISO image on your disk and burn from that (my preference as it avoids buffer underruns), the other is to create an ISO image and burn to CD-R(RW) on the fly. In neither case do you burn an ISO image. The CD writing HOWTO explains how to create a bootable disk and in XCDRoast the 'master tracks/boot options' tab allows you to specify that it is a bootable CD ROM and identify the boot image etc. -- Regards Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Thursday 03 Apr 2003 1:33 pm, pete wrote: On Thursda I've never had problems with burning data disks until I tried to burn this bootable one, which is why I thought it was linked with the boot image. I normally add directories and files to the list, excluding unnecessary ones if the collection is too big. If the last tab can calculate the sum without errors they burn fine - though it pays to burn at slowish speeds - 8x is right for most people. I don't burn to an image, I burn straight to disk, and it works. Anne Hi, Pete There are two options, one is to create an ISO image on your disk and burn from that (my preference as it avoids buffer underruns), the other is to create an ISO image and burn to CD-R(RW) on the fly. In neither case do you burn an ISO image. Semantics. IIRC both Nero and Roxio refer to the process as 'burn an image'. We both know what they mean. The CD writing HOWTO explains how to create a bootable disk and in XCDRoast the 'master tracks/boot options' tab allows you to specify that it is a bootable CD ROM and identify the boot image etc. I've been burning disks for years, so I understand the process. In this context Douglas has said that he had been unable to burn a data disk (not a bootable one, such as I was having a problem with) in XCDRoast. The point I was making was that I frequently burn data disks under XCDRoast and have always found it reliable, even though I normally burn 'on the fly'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 18:59, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 6:47 pm, Miark wrote: This was the direction of my question. I can't think of a more difficult way to burn Knoppix than jumping through these hoops. I'd just download the ISO (which I'm doing now, seeing as 3.2 is out). You're probably right, Miark g But as you know, the bull-terrier in me will not let go. I'm still puzzled by this. The instructions in Linux Format gave c/l instructions for both burning an iso image and skipping the image. The gui instructions were for XCDRoast, and I though I had followed them to the letter, and it even gave a couple of screen shots. You wouldn't have thought I could go wrong. I cheated in the end, and burned using Nero, but I'd still like to know. Anne Anne In XCDRoast 1) you first set up a directory, in 'Settings''HD Settings' which will contain your ISO image 2)click 'create CD', click 'master tracks', select files you want to include in right hand window (File/Directory View) click 'add' and files appear in left hand window (session view) 3)click 'create session/image' tab, click 'master to image file' (this is in the directory you set up in 1) 4)click 'write tracks' (at side), click 'write tracks' (at bottom) Eh Voila, note you may also need to look through all the myriad of other options along the way to be sure they are ok, eg things like rockridge or joliet. -- HTH Pete ArdnamurchanScotland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Burning a bootable cd
On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 8:54 pm, Peter Watson wrote: Anne In XCDRoast 1) you first set up a directory, in 'Settings''HD Settings' which will contain your ISO image 2)click 'create CD', click 'master tracks', select files you want to include in right hand window (File/Directory View) click 'add' and files appear in left hand window (session view) 3)click 'create session/image' tab, click 'master to image file' (this is in the directory you set up in 1) 4)click 'write tracks' (at side), click 'write tracks' (at bottom) Eh Voila, note you may also need to look through all the myriad of other options along the way to be sure they are ok, eg things like rockridge or joliet. Peter - I'll try that tomorrow - just for the hell of it. I like XCDRoast for most things, but couldn't figure this out. Thanks for the advice. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
