[newbie] File System Problem
Hi all, We had a power failure the other day and now my ML10.0 system barfs out messages every so often to the main screen (presumably when it does an FS check) that look like the following: INFO : [2004-08-31T06:33:15-0700] msg=,Check failed., path=/etc/ioctl.save I presume that this is due to file system errors caused by the power failure and the system not shutting down properly, but how can I fix the problem? I have tried running fsck and forcing it, but I'm still getting the problem. Can anyone offer a different solution? TIA --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] File System Problem
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 11:01, David Johnson wrote: Hi all, We had a power failure the other day and now my ML10.0 system barfs out messages every so often to the main screen (presumably when it does an FS check) that look like the following: INFO : [2004-08-31T06:33:15-0700] msg=,Check failed., path=/etc/ioctl.save I presume that this is due to file system errors caused by the power failure and the system not shutting down properly, but how can I fix the problem? I have tried running fsck and forcing it, but I'm still getting the problem. Can anyone offer a different solution? TIA You havent told us wether you are running a journaling file system or for that matter even what kind of file system you have. The first thing I would do were I you would be to get your data backed up to another drive. I'd do this before attempting any more fixes. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
gpart Re: Diagnostic and recovery Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
Hmmm... gpart sounds promissing... I'll definitively have a look at it. Thanks a lot HarM. Blessings, Anguo On Wednesday 02 Apr 2003 12:49 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: I just stumbled across a tool that might be of some help, it's called gpart. I messed up my mbr partition table (please don't ask) and needed to get my partitions reread. It works fine booting into a busybox shell with a floppy (or CD) and then running gpart from another floppy on which the binary has been copied. i.e. on the cml in the running busybox (after checking dmesg if your drive is seen at all): mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy cd /mnt/floppy ./gpart /dev/hda (or whatever your disk is) and away it goes guessing the partitions and the filesystems they contained including size et all:o) Very nifty, indeed! A lifesaver:o) You can get it here: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart Good hunting, HarM -- - Do you know the four basic nutrition groups? - Errr... Hamburger, soda, French fries and dessert? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Diagnostic and recovery Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Monday March 31 2003 08:18 am, Anguo wrote: Sorry, My question was not complete. I need more something like a diagnostic tool. The partition table has been messed up with (in particular the FS type)... :-( So I need to figure out, not what the partition table, but what the FS was when the partition was created and used. Also, following some crashes and unfortunate recovery attempts, three secondary ext2 partitions have merged into one bigger one. I know where the first one starts and where the last one ends but not where they have merged. As a result this (big) partition will not mount either, even read only. What I really need is more info on some diagnostic and recovery tool that may be available... I'm not very good at fixin problems like this. It only happened to me once sometime ago. Self inflicted :) IIRC, I tried booting the install disk, and updating. Can't remember if that fixed it, or I had to go ahead an re-install. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Diagnostic and recovery Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Tuesday 01 April 2003 18:24, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday March 31 2003 08:18 am, Anguo wrote: Sorry, My question was not complete. I need more something like a diagnostic tool. The partition table has been messed up with (in particular the FS type)... :-( So I need to figure out, not what the partition table, but what the FS was when the partition was created and used. Also, following some crashes and unfortunate recovery attempts, three secondary ext2 partitions have merged into one bigger one. I know where the first one starts and where the last one ends but not where they have merged. As a result this (big) partition will not mount either, even read only. What I really need is more info on some diagnostic and recovery tool that may be available... I'm not very good at fixin problems like this. It only happened to me once sometime ago. Self inflicted :) IIRC, I tried booting the install disk, and updating. Can't remember if that fixed it, or I had to go ahead an re-install. I just stumbled across a tool that might be of some help, it's called gpart. I messed up my mbr partition table (please don't ask) and needed to get my partitions reread. It works fine booting into a busybox shell with a floppy (or CD) and then running gpart from another floppy on which the binary has been copied. i.e. on the cml in the running busybox (after checking dmesg if your drive is seen at all): mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy cd /mnt/floppy ./gpart /dev/hda (or whatever your disk is) and away it goes guessing the partitions and the filesystems they contained including size et all:o) Very nifty, indeed! A lifesaver:o) You can get it here: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart Good hunting, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Diagnostic and recovery Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 11:30 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: Probly the easiest way is to go to Applications | Monitoring and choose KDiskFree. It lists all your partitions, Type (files system), Size, and Usage. If you've got removable media inserted and supermount enabled, it'll also display those. Thanks Tom, Thanks for replying too. In case you missed it, here is the reply I sent to Stephen. Blessings, Anguo Sorry, My question was not complete. I need more something like a diagnostic tool. The partition table has been messed up with (in particular the FS type)... :-( So I need to figure out, not what the partition table, but what the FS was when the partition was created and used. Also, following some crashes and unfortunate recovery attempts, three secondary ext2 partitions have merged into one bigger one. I know where the first one starts and where the last one ends but not where they have merged. As a result this (big) partition will not mount either, even read only. What I really need is more info on some diagnostic and recovery tool that may be available... Thanks for replying Yours, Anguo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Diagnostic and recovery Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Sunday 30 Mar 2003 11:15 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Just open a terminal and type fdisk -l It will list all partitions (mounted or not) and give you specific information about the partitions as well. HTH! Hello Stephen, Thanks for replying. Sorry, My question was not complete. I need more something like a diagnostic tool. The partition table has been messed up with (in particular the FS type)... :-( So I need to figure out, not what the partition table, but what the FS was when the partition was created and used. Also, following some crashes and unfortunate recovery attempts, three secondary ext2 partitions have merged into one bigger one. I know where the first one starts and where the last one ends but not where they have merged. As a result this (big) partition will not mount either, even read only. What I really need is more info on some diagnostic and recovery tool that may be available... Thanks for replying Yours, Anguo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Saturday March 29 2003 05:23 pm, Anguo wrote: Hello, How can I determine what filesystem is used by a partition that is currently unmounted. The aim is precisely to be able to mount it and read (only) the data inside. Probly the easiest way is to go to Applications | Monitoring and choose KDiskFree. It lists all your partitions, Type (files system), Size, and Usage. If you've got removable media inserted and supermount enabled, it'll also display those. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] file system of unmounted partition
Hello, How can I determine what filesystem is used by a partition that is currently unmounted. The aim is precisely to be able to mount it and read (only) the data inside. Thanks for any help anguo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system of unmounted partition
On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 09:23, Anguo wrote: Hello, How can I determine what filesystem is used by a partition that is currently unmounted. The aim is precisely to be able to mount it and read (only) the data inside. Thanks for any help anguo Just open a terminal and type fdisk -l It will list all partitions (mounted or not) and give you specific information about the partitions as well. HTH! -- Sun Mar 30 13:10:00 EST 2003 13:10:00 up 9 days, 57 min, 4 users, load average: 0.16, 0.12, 0.09 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Be valiant, but not too venturous. Let thy attire be comely, but not costly. -- John Lyly Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] File system to use?
what file system would i best to use if i am going to use my linux box as a 1-proxy server for dns/http/file caching 2-ftp server 3-divx server for my lan 4-file server for my lan it's going to have a 80gig 7200rpm drive. What's best? or feasable heh. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system to use?
Use one of the journaling file systems, EXT3 or REISER. I do not see significant differences, more or less offer the same benefits. - Original Message - From: Mehra, Sachiv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: [newbie] File system to use? what file system would i best to use if i am going to use my linux box as a 1-proxy server for dns/http/file caching 2-ftp server 3-divx server for my lan 4-file server for my lan it's going to have a 80gig 7200rpm drive. What's best? or feasable heh. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system to use?
Depends who you ask, I have a machine here now setup for most of that, and alot of other stuff.. Its an mostly 8.2 Machine with reiserfs and it has run for months with no probs, uptime is usually in the months and only comes down when I upgrade a kernel or something. some will tell you ext2 for speed/backwards compatability, some will tell you ext3 for less speed but safer, then their is xfs and jfs and both have their ups and down. for me I've had less hassles with reiserfs then any other, and its not yet really let me down. (Only problem I have had with reiserfs is to do with postfix and setting mail size limits, if you do it on a machine with reiser, you will have all sorts of problems... I had to give up on that, but for everything else, reiserfs rocks..) To each his own, they are all good, you can't really go wrong.. (not entirely true, but you get the idea.) rgds Frank - Original Message - From: Mehra, Sachiv [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:18 AM Subject: [newbie] File system to use? what file system would i best to use if i am going to use my linux box as a 1-proxy server for dns/http/file caching 2-ftp server 3-divx server for my lan 4-file server for my lan it's going to have a 80gig 7200rpm drive. What's best? or feasable heh. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system to use?
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:18, Mehra, Sachiv wrote: what file system would i best to use if i am going to use my linux box as a 1-proxy server for dns/http/file caching 2-ftp server 3-divx server for my lan 4-file server for my lan it's going to have a 80gig 7200rpm drive. What's best? or feasable heh. Thanks. Like others have said - a journalling fs. I always use ext2 on /boot and / because (and I'm not sure if this is correct) updating the kernel (or rather _installing_ a new kernel) may have problems with other fs. Sharrea -- The box said Requires Windows 95 or better so I installed Linux. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system choices
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 18:12:43 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ext2 partitions are now ext3 - I couldn't fathom the Control Centre route, but the command line couldn't have been simpler. For future reference - i.e. when I move on to Mandrake 9 - I get the impression that there are a number of problems with some of the file systems, with Reiser being probably the least problem. Is this right? I am not aware of any problems with Mandrake 9.0 specifically. I have read that XFS doesn't like certain kernel optimisations like preempt and low-latency, but Mandrake won't be including those anyway. I like to compile my own kernels with these patches included (they can make a big difference to system performance), so I avoid XFS. Otherwise, XFS appears to be a very reliable and fast filesystem. For most normal operations, ext3 is the slowest, even with only metadata journalling enabled (unlike the other journalling FSs, ext3 can journal _all_ of your data, which is safer but much slower). Its strengths are in database transaction speeds and its forward and backward compatibility with ext2. I personally think ReiserFS is the best for home systems. It is reasonably fast, being exceptionally speedy with small (sub-100K) files. It has had problems in the past, but they seem to have been ironed out in the more recent releases. JFS is very space-inefficient (each file takes about double the space), but is arguably the fastest FS. It also has problems with fragmentation, so you need to periodically defrag it (just like with Windows and FAT/NTFS). Of these filesystems, ReiserFS is probably the most complex (using features like B-trees, etc.). It is also the only journalling FS that has been designed from scratch, the others being the continuation of preexisting FSs. Nevertheless, it has proven to be quite robust in actual use, so I wholeheartedly recommend it. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] File system choices
My ext2 partitions are now ext3 - I couldn't fathom the Control Centre route, but the command line couldn't have been simpler. For future reference - i.e. when I move on to Mandrake 9 - I get the impression that there are a number of problems with some of the file systems, with Reiser being probably the least problem. Is this right? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] file system
I'm curios about the different file systems available to linux. Specifically are there certain file systems that are better for nfs partitions or other types of servers. What are the advantages of and/or disadvantages of xfs, ext3, etc. Any comments and links are greatly appreciated. Dan Cox Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system
Yes, ext3 is a journaling filesystem. An article in Linux Magazine called 'Journaling filesystems' can be found at http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-08/journaling_01.html , which should answer your questions. Or for that matter, go to http://www.google.com, and do a search on 'Journaling Filesystems'. Michael -- Michael Viron Registered Linux User #81978 Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 07:17 PM 01/09/2002 +0530, Amish K. Munshi wrote: Hi, I wanted to know what is journaling file system and how does it differ from the previous file systems. Also is ext3 also a journaling file system? Thanks. Bye. Attachment Converted: d:\mike\eudora\attach\munshiamish3.vcf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File system
Amish K. Munshi wrote: I wanted to know what is journaling file system and how does it differ from the previous file systems. Amish, I'm a newbie too, but I'm going to try to answer your question so I can learn when somebody corrects me. (Based on other knowledge I think I have (of journaling in a database), ;-) a journaling file system keeps a record of the changes that have been made to the filesystem, complete with enough information to reconstruct them. (This is in addition to actually making the changes on the disk, or maybe this is until the changes are written from cache to the disk?) If anything occurs to indicate that there might be a problem (like an unexpected shutdown), the filesystem can be reconstructed from the journal entries. Thus, for example, if your computer goes down due to a power failure, instead of going through the fsck process, the journaling file system reviews its journal entries and reconstructs anything (that hasn't yet made it to the disk yet? -- see below). This process is much faster and more reliable than the fsck process. I glossed over some things above, so state the following as specific things I'm not sure about: * How does the journaling file system manage itself? (Perhaps it keeps the journal only for file system operations that might be in cache, and deletes those entries when that part of the cache is written to disk??) * Hmm, maybe if I know the answer to the previous item it answers most of my questions. Also is ext3 also a journaling file system? Yes. Also, I understand it is very compatible with ext2, you can change one to the other without too much trouble. Civleme (and others?) has posted good information comparing several of the journaling file systems for speed, reliability (maturity?), and so forth. Randy Kramer PS: I understand that the fsck process cannot always repair an ext2 filesystem after a power outage (unless you use repair in the Microsoft sense -- (IIUC) deleting a damaged file). I've switched to a journaling file system (jfs) in hopes that my data is much more secure. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
Probably the easiest would be FAT32. You'll find that when you've installed Linux, it will mount it for you by default. You'll find it from Linux as /mnt/windows, or /mnt/win_c - something like that. /Brian On Monday 24 December 2001 4:34 am, you wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:21:47 -0600 kenn yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Greetings Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall linux, this time changing the partitioning ... i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as Dreamweaver). what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by windows? === Most file systems can be accessed by Linux. vfat (a windows fs) can be mounted rw by linux and shouldn't pose any problems for your linux system. Merry christmas to you also, and enjoy your early gift ;-) Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
Greetings Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall linux, this time changing the partitioning ... i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as Dreamweaver). what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by windows? thanks in advance for the help, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone ... kennM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:21:47 -0600 kenn yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Greetings Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall linux, this time changing the partitioning ... i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as Dreamweaver). what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by windows? === Most file systems can be accessed by Linux. vfat (a windows fs) can be mounted rw by linux and shouldn't pose any problems for your linux system. Merry christmas to you also, and enjoy your early gift ;-) Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
M$ products (win9x) will only be able to read fat, fat32, vfat, and on nt or 2000, ntfs Linux has no such hangups. On Sunday 23 December 2001 12:21, you wrote: Greetings Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall linux, this time changing the partitioning ... i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as Dreamweaver). what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by windows? thanks in advance for the help, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone ... kennM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
Just use your windows partition for your Dreamweaver work. Linux will be able to read it there. Mandrake will automatically configure itself to access your windows partition at /mnt/windows derek On Sunday 23 December 2001 17:21, kenn yahoo wrote: Greetings Well, my xmas gift to myself -- a new laptop -- arrived via FedEx yesterday, and I've successfully created a dual boot with windows and linux ... now that i know i can do that, today's task is to reinstall linux, this time changing the partitioning ... i need to have one small partition (500Mb) that can be accessed by either windows or linux (the reason being that, as much as i had to admit it, i can't find a web page design program that i like as well as Dreamweaver). what file system should i choose? and how do i make it accessible by windows? thanks in advance for the help, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone ... kennM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
Thanks so much, Mike ... as it turns out, everything was ALREADY configured exactly as you described, so the windows partition was already available, i just wasn't smart enough to know it ... i'm going back to study the manual some more :-) thanks again for your help. kennM - Original Message - From: Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:55:05 -0600 kenn yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: thanks, derek, and you, too, mike and ed ... please excuse the newbieness of this question, but how do i mount the windows partition? i've read the man pages and info pages for the mount command but i still don't quite get it ... and how do i view what partitions are AVAILABLE for mounting? = Partitions available for mounting can be found in the file /etc/fstab. You can open that (even as an ordinary user) in just about any text editor, or in a terminal, just type cat /etc/fstab w/o the quotes. If there is not a line for your windows partition, you'll need to add one as root.. Something like: /dev/hdax /mnt/win98 vfat user,noauto 0 0 The x above represents the partition number of your windows drive (quite possibly hda1). You'll need to creat a directory in /mnt for windows, if it doesn't already exist. In a terminal, su to root, then type cd /mnt (w/o quotes)That should bring you to your /mnt directory. Now type mkdir win (or win98, or whatever). Once you've edited /etc/fstab, and added the appropriate directory to /mnt, the all you need do is type mount /mnt/win98 (or whatever you've called it). Type umount /mnt/win98 (w/o quotes as usual) to unmount the directory. See man mount for more help. HTH, Mike _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] file system accessible by windows and linux
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:22:38 -0600 kenn yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Thanks so much, Mike ... as it turns out, everything was ALREADY configured exactly as you described, so the windows partition was already available, i just wasn't smart enough to know it ... i'm going back to study the manual some more :-) thanks again for your help. = You're most welcome. And have a GREAT holiday!! Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[Mandrakeupdate] was Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanlycheck forced
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: Ok well I guess its just not working then I am just getting an error message when I try to run the update utility. Jeanette Well we just can't have that can we! Could you tell me what the error message was? If it wasn't very descriptive theres oher ways to find out what went wrong, but if i know the error message it's a good starting place.
Re: KPPP was RE: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Aaron deRozario wrote: -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 5:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced snip Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan I have had a similar problem with Kppp timing out on me. Could you tell me which config file we are dealing with here? Is this config file for all dial-up connections, or is there a separate config file for each dialup account you create in Kppp? Also would 57600 be a sutiable speed for a 28.8k modem, or can I go faster? I think I used to use this speed under RH5.2 with Ezppp. Thanking you in advance Aaron Aaronactually, no I haven't a clue as to the name of the config file or how many of them there might be. My modem is a 28,800 and I have successfully used 38,400, 57,600 and 115,200 settings with both windows and Linux. Sorry I didn't have more complete answers. (-: Alan Set it as high as it will go that only controls the PC to Modem communication, the modems will negotiate a speed between the two of them when ever they need to. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
The reason I was upset is I just spent a week of intense trying to fix Mandrake 5.3 which didn't seem to be that bad and I am not looking forward to trying to fix Mandrake 6 which I thought would be ok. For some reason the Mandrake updates is not working. Not sure what it is supposed to do, is it just a web page? Or does it actually update your system. I know none of this is going to update right, so I am thinking of getting Mandrake 6.1 if I can get a copy on a CD since I don't have a CD burner. I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan Jeanette Russo wrote: I gave it a try and it does seem to work now, thanks Alan, Jeanette JeanetteGlad to have been some help. (-: I notice that you seem a bit agitated concerning mdk 6.0 in your last few posts to this list. Relax. (-: Now that you've got the PPP connection working, use the update icon to update all the files that the update program lists for you. Take a break and then download the updated kernal (2.2.9-27) and follow the installation directions carefully. You'll be done with it all in no time and you'll be glad you did it. (-: Enjoy. Alan
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
I really don't want to argue this point but I will say one thing. I have both Red hat 6 and Caldera 2.2. I have not updated either of them and both run fine. Not so with Mandrake 6 which has serious internal problems that require fixing right away. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Jeanette Russo wrote: I can't believe I have to install a kernel in my brand new install to fix this. I have no idea how to do this. I just Mandrake Soft should have fixed this in the boxed versions. This problem has been out for a long time and now I wasted $39 time and effort on Mandrake 6.0. How could this possibly be the most bug free version on Linux when you have to replace the kernal right after you install it. Oh, give me a break. It's a download and ten minutes of your time. Would you prefer a broken kernel and the fsck-on-reboot problem you've got now? I know I'd just bite the bullet and grab the download. Don't think that any of the other distributions are any better. A kernel is trivial compared to the 140M worth of updates Red Hat has issued against their 6.0 effort. Debian's last official release ships with 2.0.34 and an X distribution that hasn't been current for quite awhile. I don't recall Caldera's 2.2 (their latest) having any small amount of updates either, a kernel was included there too. Slackware STILL doesn't ship with libc6, something that's shipped with other distributions for at least a couple versions. Mandrake (and all other distributors that I'm aware of) release a distribution with a version number. Updates to that version don't typically get streamlined into the retail packages. Think of the support nightmares that would cause! Just because Microsoft feels the need to support 3 versions of Win95 and 2 versions of Win98 doesn't mean everyone else should take on that burden! 6.0 means 6.0 means 6.0. Not 6.0 + some unknown set of updates. You probably could have saved yourself about $30 and bought a distribution from a vendor that slipped the updates into their burned discs. I posted yesterday about LSL releasing a new "updates" CD that carries the various items that have been released since the official releases of the major distributions. I don't recall the price, but it wasn't very expensive. If you feel it's too much effort to download the update, pick up the CD. You've been reading this list for FAR too long to claim that these kernel updates were "sprung" on you. The issue has been known for quite a while. Didn't you account for that when you bought your copy? If you knew it was a problem, why didn't you ask the vendor if they included available updates on their CD? Sorry, but you've hit my "whining" threshold... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: The reason I was upset is I just spent a week of intense trying to fix Mandrake 5.3 which didn't seem to be that bad and I am not looking forward to trying to fix Mandrake 6 which I thought would be ok. For some reason the Mandrake updates is not working. Not sure what it is supposed to do, is it just a web page? Or does it actually update your system. I know none of this is going to update right, so I am thinking of getting Mandrake 6.1 if I can get a copy on a CD since I don't have a CD burner. I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette Mandrakeupdate, is an update utility It retieves the list of mirrors retrieves a list of updates from the mirror you selected compares whats installed on your system with whats on the mirror shows you those that are relevent to your system here you choose which ones you want it downloads them and upgrades the packages It should update just fine, i haven't seen any reported problems Again our applogies for the kernel and initscripts problems. They were not discovered in time to halt the pressing of the cd's. - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan Jeanette Russo wrote: I gave it a try and it does seem to work now, thanks Alan, Jeanette JeanetteGlad to have been some help. (-: I notice that you seem a bit agitated concerning mdk 6.0 in your last few posts to this list. Relax. (-: Now that you've got the PPP connection working, use the update icon to update all the files that the update program lists for you. Take a break and then download the updated kernal (2.2.9-27) and follow the installation directions carefully. You'll be done with it all in no time and you'll be glad you did it. (-: Enjoy. Alan -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Granted, Mandrake should have fixed the problem before it came out with the new version. BUT, they have the next best thing. They offered a update and they tell you exactly what to do. I as I have said before started using linux 4 months ago. I felt the need to switch once I started hosting moos on my machine. Red Hat was cool caldera was ok, and so was slack. But Mandrake is easy to upgrade and maintain compared to other version. Jeanette Russo wrote: I really don't want to argue this point but I will say one thing. I have both Red hat 6 and Caldera 2.2. I have not updated either of them and both run fine. Not so with Mandrake 6 which has serious internal problems that require fixing right away. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Jeanette Russo wrote: I can't believe I have to install a kernel in my brand new install to fix this. I have no idea how to do this. I just Mandrake Soft should have fixed this in the boxed versions. This problem has been out for a long time and now I wasted $39 time and effort on Mandrake 6.0. How could this possibly be the most bug free version on Linux when you have to replace the kernal right after you install it. Oh, give me a break. It's a download and ten minutes of your time. Would you prefer a broken kernel and the fsck-on-reboot problem you've got now? I know I'd just bite the bullet and grab the download. Don't think that any of the other distributions are any better. A kernel is trivial compared to the 140M worth of updates Red Hat has issued against their 6.0 effort. Debian's last official release ships with 2.0.34 and an X distribution that hasn't been current for quite awhile. I don't recall Caldera's 2.2 (their latest) having any small amount of updates either, a kernel was included there too. Slackware STILL doesn't ship with libc6, something that's shipped with other distributions for at least a couple versions. Mandrake (and all other distributors that I'm aware of) release a distribution with a version number. Updates to that version don't typically get streamlined into the retail packages. Think of the support nightmares that would cause! Just because Microsoft feels the need to support 3 versions of Win95 and 2 versions of Win98 doesn't mean everyone else should take on that burden! 6.0 means 6.0 means 6.0. Not 6.0 + some unknown set of updates. You probably could have saved yourself about $30 and bought a distribution from a vendor that slipped the updates into their burned discs. I posted yesterday about LSL releasing a new "updates" CD that carries the various items that have been released since the official releases of the major distributions. I don't recall the price, but it wasn't very expensive. If you feel it's too much effort to download the update, pick up the CD. You've been reading this list for FAR too long to claim that these kernel updates were "sprung" on you. The issue has been known for quite a while. Didn't you account for that when you bought your copy? If you knew it was a problem, why didn't you ask the vendor if they included available updates on their CD? Sorry, but you've hit my "whining" threshold... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Jeanette Russo wrote: The reason I was upset is I just spent a week of intense trying to fix Mandrake 5.3 which didn't seem to be that bad and I am not looking forward to trying to fix Mandrake 6 which I thought would be ok. For some reason the Mandrake updates is not working. Not sure what it is supposed to do, is it just a web page? Or does it actually update your system. I know none of this is going to update right, so I am thinking of getting Mandrake 6.1 if I can get a copy on a CD since I don't have a CD burner. I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette Jeanetteyeah, I was somewhat dismayed when I received my GPL disc from the supplier back in June and it contained the 2.2.9-19 kernel instead of the 2.2.9-27 kernel, because I knew about the kernel update. If I hadn't been aware that a newer kernel was the preferred one I wouldn't have been dismayed, because 6.0 installed and ran just fine on my system. Like most folks, 6.0 ran for me well enough to not even need to bother with updating anything (except sound) right away. It had gotten past beta testing, and that's why it got released in that form. You are just one of the unlucky ones that has a hardware combination that triggers the problems that require the updates. Enjoy, not everyone is flaming (-: Alan
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, you wrote: I understand your frustration level. Sometimes you just have to step back, have a brew and shut the computer off for awhile. :-) Trust me, I've been there... :-) And I'm STILL there sometimes. I work for an ISP and sometimes have to work on customers' computers which are real pieces of cra^H^H^H junk. F'r instance, we got an old PS/2 model 95 in herehad OS/2 on it and I had to load Windows on it. Unfortunately, the Windows diskettes were badI eventually got it working by taking the hard drive OUT of the machine (SCSI) and hooking it up to my personal SCSI card and copying the files over from a CD. But, it took me several days of working on it to get to that point. :-) I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette Ummwell, what do you think Mandrake 6.1 is? ;-) Think of Mandrake 6.1 as a "bug-fix release" of Mandrake 6.0. :-) Kinda like Windows 98SE is a "bug-fix" for Windows 98...only it took Microsoft about 2 years to get it out, instead of a month or two... :-) Can you HONESTLY say you've *never* gotten the BSOD from a Microsoft product? And yet, you don't have this level of frustration at Microsoft :-) My guess is you had your expectations unfairly raised about Linux/Mandrake being so much better than Windows. Well, in many respects it is, but these guys are just human...they make mistakes but they're a LOT faster at fixing it than Microsoft. :-) John
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
You may remove the old one after successfully testing the new one with the command.. rpm -e kernel-2.2.9-19mdk default=linux27 (or whatever you call it) image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9-27mdks Theres no S on the end of that, just so nobody botches the install and Blames poor John ;) images=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9-27mdk WhoopsI was taking that from my setup (which includes an SMP kernel setup G) I just edited my config... thanks for catching that! :-) Just goes to show what nice people you folks at LM are! :-) John
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
I will check out LSL, thanks for the suggestion. I did know about the problem with the kernal but I guess I figured they had fixed it since the date on the package I bought was long after the problem was discovered. Jeanette I posted yesterday about LSL releasing a new "updates" CD that carries the various items that have been released since the official releases of the major distributions. I don't recall the price, but it wasn't very expensive. If you feel it's too much effort to download the update, pick up the CD. You've been reading this list for FAR too long to claim that these kernel updates were "sprung" on you. The issue has been known for quite a while. Didn't you account for that when you bought your copy? If you knew it was a problem, why didn't you ask the vendor if they included available updates on their CD? Sorry, but you've hit my "whining" threshold... -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Ok I am over it now. Thanks for the support. This is a great list. Jeanette - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced On Wed, 01 Sep 1999, you wrote: I understand your frustration level. Sometimes you just have to step back, have a brew and shut the computer off for awhile. :-) Trust me, I've been there... :-) And I'm STILL there sometimes. I work for an ISP and sometimes have to work on customers' computers which are real pieces of cra^H^H^H junk. F'r instance, we got an old PS/2 model 95 in herehad OS/2 on it and I had to load Windows on it. Unfortunately, the Windows diskettes were badI eventually got it working by taking the hard drive OUT of the machine (SCSI) and hooking it up to my personal SCSI card and copying the files over from a CD. But, it took me several days of working on it to get to that point. :-) I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette Ummwell, what do you think Mandrake 6.1 is? ;-) Think of Mandrake 6.1 as a "bug-fix release" of Mandrake 6.0. :-) Kinda like Windows 98SE is a "bug-fix" for Windows 98...only it took Microsoft about 2 years to get it out, instead of a month or two... :-) Can you HONESTLY say you've *never* gotten the BSOD from a Microsoft product? And yet, you don't have this level of frustration at Microsoft :-) My guess is you had your expectations unfairly raised about Linux/Mandrake being so much better than Windows. Well, in many respects it is, but these guys are just human...they make mistakes but they're a LOT faster at fixing it than Microsoft. :-) John
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Ok well I guess its just not working then I am just getting an error message when I try to run the update utility. Jeanette - Original Message - From: Axalon Bloodstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Jeanette Russo wrote: The reason I was upset is I just spent a week of intense trying to fix Mandrake 5.3 which didn't seem to be that bad and I am not looking forward to trying to fix Mandrake 6 which I thought would be ok. For some reason the Mandrake updates is not working. Not sure what it is supposed to do, is it just a web page? Or does it actually update your system. I know none of this is going to update right, so I am thinking of getting Mandrake 6.1 if I can get a copy on a CD since I don't have a CD burner. I just think sending Venus out with such serious problems was bad, but then not to update the packages shipped long after the release was really bad. Jeanette Mandrakeupdate, is an update utility It retieves the list of mirrors retrieves a list of updates from the mirror you selected compares whats installed on your system with whats on the mirror shows you those that are relevent to your system here you choose which ones you want it downloads them and upgrades the packages It should update just fine, i haven't seen any reported problems Again our applogies for the kernel and initscripts problems. They were not discovered in time to halt the pressing of the cd's. - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan Jeanette Russo wrote: I gave it a try and it does seem to work now, thanks Alan, Jeanette JeanetteGlad to have been some help. (-: I notice that you seem a bit agitated concerning mdk 6.0 in your last few posts to this list. Relax. (-: Now that you've got the PPP connection working, use the update icon to update all the files that the update program lists for you. Take a break and then download the updated kernal (2.2.9-27) and follow the installation directions carefully. You'll be done with it all in no time and you'll be glad you did it. (-: Enjoy. Alan -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
[newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. PLEASE. TIA, Jeanette
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. download the new kernel RPMs (I think it's up to 2.2.9-27) and the initscripts RPMs. Install these and it SHOULD take care of the problem for you. You will need to add the new kernel to your /etc/lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo to update it and then reboot. John
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Jeanette Russo wrote: After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. PLEASE. TIA, Jeanette Jeanette, I had many of the same problems you are experiencing with file systems and PPP connections dying until I installed all of the Mandrake 6.0 updates. The problem was that I could not get my PPP connection working until the updates were installed, so I could not download the updates from Linux using the Mandrake Update utility, a catch 22. What I ended up doing was downloading the updates from Windows, then mounting the Windows partition from Linux and copying the update RPMs across to Linux and then installing them. After that I was able to configure everything and it all worked! Hope this helps. I'm a Linux newbie too ( been running Mandrake 6.0 for about 3 weeks ) so maybe some others have more specific solutions for you. I was frustrated getting 6.0 installed too, but it's really great once you get everything working, so don't give up! -- Scott Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running Linux Mandrake 6.0
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
Scott Miller wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. PLEASE. TIA, Jeanette Jeanette, I had many of the same problems you are experiencing with file systems and PPP connections dying until I installed all of the Mandrake 6.0 updates. The problem was that I could not get my PPP connection working until the updates were installed, so I could not download the updates from Linux using the Mandrake Update utility, a catch 22. What I ended up doing was downloading the updates from Windows, then mounting the Windows partition from Linux and copying the update RPMs across to Linux and then installing them. After that I was able to configure everything and it all worked! Hope this helps. I'm a Linux newbie too ( been running Mandrake 6.0 for about 3 weeks ) so maybe some others have more specific solutions for you. I was frustrated getting 6.0 installed too, but it's really great once you get everything working, so don't give up! -- Scott Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running Linux Mandrake 6.0 Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
---Reply to mail from Jeanette Russo about [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. PLEASE. TIA, Jeanette You need to go to the Mandrake web site and get the latest kernel and initscripts update. That will fix your problem. ---End reply -- Jonathan Dlouhy Tuesday, August 31, 1999 Microsoft - We put the "backwards" into backwards compatibility.
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
I gave it a try and it does seem to work now, thanks Alan, Jeanette - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced Scott Miller wrote: Jeanette Russo wrote: After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. PLEASE. TIA, Jeanette Jeanette, I had many of the same problems you are experiencing with file systems and PPP connections dying until I installed all of the Mandrake 6.0 updates. The problem was that I could not get my PPP connection working until the updates were installed, so I could not download the updates from Linux using the Mandrake Update utility, a catch 22. What I ended up doing was downloading the updates from Windows, then mounting the Windows partition from Linux and copying the update RPMs across to Linux and then installing them. After that I was able to configure everything and it all worked! Hope this helps. I'm a Linux newbie too ( been running Mandrake 6.0 for about 3 weeks ) so maybe some others have more specific solutions for you. I was frustrated getting 6.0 installed too, but it's really great once you get everything working, so don't give up! -- Scott Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running Linux Mandrake 6.0 Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan
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Aaron deRozario wrote: -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 1999 5:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced snip Jeanettenot long ago a contributer to one of these mdk support lists wrote that the KPPP supplied with 6.0 initializes the config file with a null for speed (even though the window in the GUI setup says 57600) and that this causes the connection to time out without anything happening. He said that to fix this just change the speed setting, save it, then if 57600 was what you wanted, go back and change it back to 57600. This made sense to me because I experienced the same symptoms and changed my setting to 115200 and that fixed my PPP connect problem (I've never changed mine back). I'll bet that it will fix yours too. Alan I have had a similar problem with Kppp timing out on me. Could you tell me which config file we are dealing with here? Is this config file for all dial-up connections, or is there a separate config file for each dialup account you create in Kppp? Also would 57600 be a sutiable speed for a 28.8k modem, or can I go faster? I think I used to use this speed under RH5.2 with Ezppp. Thanking you in advance Aaron Aaronactually, no I haven't a clue as to the name of the config file or how many of them there might be. My modem is a 28,800 and I have successfully used 38,400, 57,600 and 115,200 settings with both windows and Linux. Sorry I didn't have more complete answers. (-: Alan
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
I can't believe I have to install a kernel in my brand new install to fix this. I have no idea how to do this. I just Mandrake Soft should have fixed this in the boxed versions. This problem has been out for a long time and now I wasted $39 time and effort on Mandrake 6.0. How could this possibly be the most bug free version on Linux when you have to replace the kernal right after you install it. Jeanette - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: After dealing with Linux problems for the last week on Mandrake 5.3 I made the jump to Venus 6.0. I am starting to regret not reinstalling Mandrake 5.3. Now I am dealing with more problems. Everytime I shutdown hda6 does not unmount (device busy). I know this is a bug. The Mandrake updates does not work. Can someone tell me what I need to do to fix this keeping in mind I am a newbie who is trying but is becoming very discouraged. If someone could guide me through the steps to fix this I think I can do it. download the new kernel RPMs (I think it's up to 2.2.9-27) and the initscripts RPMs. Install these and it SHOULD take care of the problem for you. You will need to add the new kernel to your /etc/lilo.conf and run /sbin/lilo to update it and then reboot. John
Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, you wrote: I can't believe I have to install a kernel in my brand new install to fix this. I have no idea how to do this. I just Mandrake Soft should have fixed this in the boxed versions. This problem has been out for a long time and now I wasted $39 time and effort on Mandrake 6.0. How could this possibly be the most bug free version on Linux when you have to replace the kernal right after you install it. Jeanette Jeanette: It's NOT as hard as you think it is. Good God. It's not at all hard. RTFM, and if you can't find the manual (or don't know how to read a man page) ask. Please please please, don't bitch and moan and complain when you buy software that has a bug in it that gets fixed in a mater of days, for free. The windows 98 se has a update cd out for it fixing many more problems than the few in mandrake. Plus it cost me $25 with shipping. Lets see win98 se costs me $90 wholesale and the update cost $25 Yet the piece of shit still blows up daily, and my LM6.0 box is up and running for 28 days now (since I ran the rpm -Uvh to upgrade it). The mandrake cd only cost me 29.99. One other thing, many of the updates are security updates that make your system as secure as possible. One other thing again, mandrake is not the developer of most of the packages (update tool not included), so blaming them with a bug in the kernel is not at all cool. If you don't want to learn how to use Linux to it's fullest, maybe the Mac Os would be a better choice? -- Brett Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] file system caching, file system errors
Hey all. Maybe this is an expert@ question, but here goes. We're setting up a distance education centre at my church and while the maintenance crew is working on the classroom, from time to time we find that the power to the server room gets cut off. Upon rebooting, the file system almost always has errors and therefore hangs on boot-up asking for the root password before letting the person at the console check the file system and corrent any errors. Question 1. I've used another *nix before (QNX) and know that under it you can limit or just plain shut OFF file system caching. Would this help at all to reduce file system errors if the power to the system gets cut off? Question 1a. How would I limit the file system cache size on the system? It's a P-200MMX with 80MB of RAM. Question 2. Does anyone know of any UPS systems (with software) that works under Mandrake 6.0 to watch a serial port and if it detects a signal from the UPS (that the power is cut) that it will issue a shutdown command? Thanks much. --- Ian W. Douglas, Wild Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN: 506679
Re: [newbie] File system signal 11 error
Bob James wrote: My install of Mandrake 5.3 successfully completed, but the during the reboot, the filesystem failed a check during mounting. The error was: Warning... fsck.ext2 for device /dev/sda5 exited with signal 11. *** An error occurred during the file system check. What is this? Do I have a corrupted file system, and if so, how do I correct it? You don't have a corrupted filesystem, but you do have hardware problems. Typically, signal 11 errors are caused by attempting to overclock your machine beyond what the CPU or other hardware can handle. The other major cause is faulty memory. If you're overclocking, try turning it back down to it's normal speed and see if that fixes the problem. Also, check to make sure that the heatsink and fan are working correctly on the CPU. Check your RAM to make sure it's all properly and securely seated in the slots. Check your jumpers to make sure you've got them set correctly on the motherboard. Hope these ideas help! -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
