Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 6:20 am, rikona wrote: Hello HaywireMac, Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 6:31:39 AM, you wrote: H I did my own very small part yesterday, I couldn't convince a H friend to switch to Linux, but I got them to use Mozilla and H Thunderbird instead of the usual virus-spreaders. I try to get all M$ users to stop using M$ software even if they wish to keep running Win. If they don't mind a modest cost, check out TheBat for email. It is probably the most secure and private client available for Win. It's also a really nice client, too. :-) My choice to replace IE is Opera, which is also available for linux. Help stamp out M$ any way we can. If we can get as many M$ users as possible started using non-M$ software, it gets them thinking in the right direction. Every little bit helps. For years I have been installing first Netscape, the later Mozilla on windows machines, and configuring the email setup for my users, so they are not tempted to use IE. They are soon comfortable with it, and if we ever get so far as getting them to see the light they will have one major application totally familiar :-) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 03 Oct 2003 6:20 am, rikona wrote: Hello HaywireMac, Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 6:31:39 AM, you wrote: H I did my own very small part yesterday, I couldn't convince a H friend to switch to Linux, but I got them to use Mozilla and H Thunderbird instead of the usual virus-spreaders. I try to get all M$ users to stop using M$ software even if they wish to keep running Win. If they don't mind a modest cost, check out TheBat for email. It is probably the most secure and private client available for Win. It's also a really nice client, too. :-) My choice to replace IE is Opera, which is also available for linux. Help stamp out M$ any way we can. If we can get as many M$ users as possible started using non-M$ software, it gets them thinking in the right direction. Every little bit helps. For years I have been installing first Netscape, the later Mozilla on windows machines, and configuring the email setup for my users, so they are not tempted to use IE. They are soon comfortable with it, and if we ever get so far as getting them to see the light they will have one major application totally familiar :-) Good move. And let's not forget OpenOffice! If you can get people using Mozilla and OO on Windows, they should hardly notive the difference when they change to Linux. Sir Robin -- I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:44:56 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: notive ROBIN MADE A SPELLING ERROR! CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD! DEF CON 9! BOMBSHELTERS EVERYBODY, NOW! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Truth has no special time of its own. Its hour is now -- always. -- Albert Schweitzer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:38, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 23:48:07 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Taht wasnt' a speling eror it wasa typng erorr. Still, it scared the bejeezus outta me. ;-) ditto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
Hello HaywireMac, Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 6:31:39 AM, you wrote: H I did my own very small part yesterday, I couldn't convince a H friend to switch to Linux, but I got them to use Mozilla and H Thunderbird instead of the usual virus-spreaders. I try to get all M$ users to stop using M$ software even if they wish to keep running Win. If they don't mind a modest cost, check out TheBat for email. It is probably the most secure and private client available for Win. It's also a really nice client, too. :-) My choice to replace IE is Opera, which is also available for linux. Help stamp out M$ any way we can. If we can get as many M$ users as possible started using non-M$ software, it gets them thinking in the right direction. Every little bit helps. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Tuesday September 30 2003 05:37 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Dear Editor, The abovementioned article is so rife with inaccuracy and untruth, it is difficult to believe it was not dictated directly from Redmond and printed verbatim. First of all, the reason Microsoft is the target of most hack attacks has nothing whatsoever to do with it's market share. The internet suffers unduly because of egregious security flaws in Microsoft's operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. The internet continues to function in a useable manner day-to-day only because the non-Microsoft software that it runs on is able to cope with the load that Microsoft vulnerabilities generate. This bit of propagandistic fluff is clearly an editorial response to the report issued recently by the Computer and Communications Industry Association, which quite rightly heaps almost all of the blame for the woes of the average user's Internet experience squarely where it belongs: Microsoft. The fact that said report is not mentioned *once* is in itself a glaring oversight on the part of the journalist. Microsoft's corporate culture is characterized by inattention to security, and has been for decades, not the hardware manufacturers, not vendors of Unix products, not the Open Source community, only Microsoft. This is why, increasingly, Governments across the globe are turning to alternatives to Microsoft, not only for the reduced costs and less restrictive licensing terms, but out of concern for their security. The U.S. govenment itself is turning to Linux to power it's most secure operations, such as the N.S.A. I would hope that Mr. Lohr, supposedly the author of this article, do more and better research to get his facts straight in the future. -- Regards, T Bruce Milne All right, where is the real JoeHill? ;) BTW, M$ servers are currently 23.5% of all web servers and their share has been in decline over the last year. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:15:48 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hey, Tom! Haven't seen ya 'round much, I guess you've been busy helping to squash bugs for 9.2? All right, where is the real JoeHill? ;) Ya, I figured if I left out things like the author is a complete fscking moron, and I want to kneecap him with a shovel, it would have more chance of actually getting printed... :-D BTW, M$ servers are currently 23.5% of all web servers and their share has been in decline over the last year. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html This is the thing, we've got to get the truth out there, MS is a target because they are *insecure*, it matters not what their share of the market is, except that the effects of their incompetence would be far less annoying if more people would drop them as their OS at home and at work. I did my own very small part yesterday, I couldn't convince a friend to switch to Linux, but I got them to use Mozilla and Thunderbird instead of the usual virus-spreaders. *And* I'm sending my sis a couple of CD's, Knoppix and Morphix, so she can try out Linux and go fromt there. I *will* convert her, resistance is futile! -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ You have all eternity to be cautious in when you're dead. -- Lois Platford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Assuming you haven't sent it off, here are a couple of my famous nit-picks ... operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. SAhould be are, not is. The internet continues to function in Internet needs a capital I. a useable manner day-to-day only because the non-Microsoft software that it runs on is able to cope with the load that Microsoft vulnerabilities generate. Microsoft's corporate culture is characterized by inattention to security, and has been for decades, not the hardware manufacturers, not vendors of Unix products, not the Open Source community, only Microsoft. That's a run-on sentence; the part after the not is not properly linked to the main clause. restrictive licensing terms, but out of concern for their security. The U.S. govenment itself is turning to Linux to power it's most secure operations, such as the N.S.A. Should be its, not its. I would hope that Mr. Lohr, supposedly the author of this article, do more and better research to get his facts straight in the future. Should be does, not do, unless you're heavily into subjunctives. Nit-picking aside, it's a very good letter, and I hope they publish it. Sir Robin -- I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 4:27 pm, robin wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Assuming you haven't sent it off, here are a couple of my famous nit-picks ... operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. SAhould be are, not is. Beg to disagree. In this sentence 'most' refers to 'the largest part', which is singular. Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). Sir Robin -- I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:44:53 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). I think he's right, Anne, I worded it poorly :-( Now I am deeply shamed. I must atone for my grammatical sins by... How does one atone for grammatical sins? Hail Oxford's English Dictionary, full of grace, blessed art thou among... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ That that is is that that is not is not. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 6:44 pm, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 4:27 pm, robin wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Assuming you haven't sent it off, here are a couple of my famous nit-picks ... operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. SAhould be are, not is. Beg to disagree. In this sentence 'most' refers to 'the largest part', which is singular. Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). Sir Robin I agree that the first phrase is, but I took it to mean the second phrase, which is singular, being 'the largest part'.g However, this is totally OT and doesn't help HM's effort at all. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 20:44, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 4:27 pm, robin wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Assuming you haven't sent it off, here are a couple of my famous nit-picks ... operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. SAhould be are, not is. Beg to disagree. In this sentence 'most' refers to 'the largest part', which is singular. Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). Sir Robin Shouldn't that read Internets' structure then? 8-) Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
mooney wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 20:44, robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. SAhould be are, not is. Beg to disagree. In this sentence 'most' refers to 'the largest part', which is singular. Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). Shouldn't that read Internets' structure then? 8-) No, because Internet is singular. It's the subject as a whole which affects the verb. In deference to people with low bandwidth and/or low patience, I'll post any more replies to this thread on the OT list, where they are used to my grammar fascism ;-) Sir Robin -- I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 10:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:44:53 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). I think he's right, Anne, I worded it poorly :-( Now I am deeply shamed. I must atone for my grammatical sins by... How does one atone for grammatical sins? Hail Oxford's English Dictionary, full of grace, blessed art thou among... Great Weights g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
Aron Smith wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 10:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:44:53 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). I think he's right, Anne, I worded it poorly :-( Now I am deeply shamed. I must atone for my grammatical sins by... How does one atone for grammatical sins? Hail Oxford's English Dictionary, full of grace, blessed art thou among... Great Weights g And, as a penance, spend the next year reading all the posts on the newsgroup alt.english.usage ! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 14:26:40 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 10:47, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 20:44:53 +0300 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Most is not a subject; the subject is most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure, which is plural (and would still be plural without the second phrase). I think he's right, Anne, I worded it poorly :-( Now I am deeply shamed. I must atone for my grammatical sins by... How does one atone for grammatical sins? Hail Oxford's English Dictionary, full of grace, blessed art thou among... Great Weights g Flog yourself with the entire 26 volume set. Flogging Femme (from flogging molly, great band) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
BTW, M$ servers are currently 23.5% of all web servers and their share has been in decline over the last year. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html Cool site. It get's a bookmark for sure So, how many of the famous worms/virii *predominantly* targeted ms servers as opposed to desktop computers? It seems Nimda and SQL Slammer Worm did. Sobig was mostly home users. The reason i ask is that when i argue to people that it's insecurity and not popularity that get's MS in trouble, i can't use the ones that directly affect desktop, since those are more popular. (even if the same code is in a server, the # of comps is still higher...) eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 11:36, Eric Huff wrote: So, how many of the famous worms/virii *predominantly* targeted ms servers as opposed to desktop computers? It seems Nimda and SQL Slammer Worm did. Sobig was mostly home users. Although an attack aimed solely at servers can do some damage, generally, attacks aimed at desktops can cause even more damage overall - because they're going to flood the servers with traffic and crap that otherwise ain't there...so in saturating the network with bad traffic, you're going to end up taking down a feeble server - M$ or otherwise - then again, mostly the M$ servers are the most fragile. The reason i ask is that when i argue to people that it's insecurity and not popularity that get's MS in trouble, i can't use the ones that directly affect desktop, since those are more popular. (even if the same code is in a server, the # of comps is still higher...) eric M$ haven't changed any of the base code - they're famous for patching and putting bandages on things - revamping old code to make it either look new or act new - same code, though. That's yet another reason why it's taking so long for Longhorn to get out - they're seriously having to dig through the code base to TRY to make it better - but as each day moves on, the general public is getting a bit more tee'd off at Microsoft - so within the next six months, they're going to have to rewrite some more of the code to cater to the public. It really won't matter, however, because the basis for all M$ OS's is going to remain the same, and going to remain insecure by nature. Unless they chuck out every bit of old code and rewrite from the very beginning, they're going to constantly and consistently be the least secure OS in the marketplace. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Parallel lines never meet, unless you bend one or both of them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
This is just priceless:
Microsoft's Security Response Center in Redmond, Wash., is the
computing equivalent of a hospital emergency ward. When a problem comes
in the door the center's director, Kevin Kean, and his staff must
swiftly make an assessment: Is the security weakness detected in a
Microsoft software product only minor? Or is it possibly so serious
that, if exploited by a vandal's malicious code (as happened last month
with the Blaster worm) it might crash computers and networks around the
world?
If the threat appears grave, the problem goes immediately into the
center's emergency operating room, where it is attended to by a team of
Microsoft engineers, working nearly round-the-clock to analyze the
flawed code, anticipate paths of attack, devise a software patch to fix
the defect and alert millions of customers of the problem and the patch.
It's triage and emergency response \x{2014} so it's a lot like an E.R.
ward in that sense, Mr. Kean observed last week.
The race to protect the computing patient has begun again.
Oh the Heroic and Brave Microsoft Software Engineers, working day and
night to protect the innocent! ROTFLMAO!
This is the best part:
Other operating systems like Linux, Unix and Macintosh, experts say,
all have security vulnerabilities. But they don't get the attention and
the attacks because, unlike Microsoft, the other technologies are not
deployed on 300 million computers, said Russ Cooper, a security expert
at TruSecure, a computer security company. This is not just Microsoft's
problem.
Oh, really? I think Unix is deployed on more machines than MS, is it
not? Isn't it Unix that *runs the freaking internet*? LOL!
Source (if you can call it that):
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/29/technology/29SOFT.html
Please, if you have a minute, do as I am doing and write a little note
explaining some of this to the NY Times...
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/lettertoeditor.html
You gotta sign up/register, but it's free...
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Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:36:44 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: This is just priceless: = I had read this earlier and I agree with your assessment ;o) = Other operating systems like Linux, Unix and Macintosh, experts say, all have security vulnerabilities. But they don't get the attention and the attacks because, unlike Microsoft, the other technologies are not deployed on 300 million computers, said Russ Cooper, a security expert at TruSecure, a computer security company. This is not just Microsoft's problem. Oh, really? I think Unix is deployed on more machines than MS, is it not? Isn't it Unix that *runs the freaking internet*? LOL! No and Yes, I would think. If we count desktops M$ is clearly on more boxes that unix. Servers, of course might be another story. *nix dominates on the internet for sure. === Source (if you can call it that): http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/29/technology/29SOFT.html Please, if you have a minute, do as I am doing and write a little note explaining some of this to the NY Times... http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/lettertoeditor.html You gotta sign up/register, but it's free... == I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike -- The man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Some MS Propaganda for ya (Funny)
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:40:45 -0400 Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'll look forward to seeing your letter. Will you sign it JH or haywire? ;-) Best, Mike *If they print it...* Who knows where it will end up? Dear Editor, The abovementioned article is so rife with inaccuracy and untruth, it is difficult to believe it was not dictated directly from Redmond and printed verbatim. First of all, the reason Microsoft is the target of most hack attacks has nothing whatsoever to do with it's market share. The internet suffers unduly because of egregious security flaws in Microsoft's operating system, *despite* the fact that most of the websites on the Internet and most of the Internet's structure is built on Unix, Linux, and other non-Microsoft platforms. The internet continues to function in a useable manner day-to-day only because the non-Microsoft software that it runs on is able to cope with the load that Microsoft vulnerabilities generate. This bit of propagandistic fluff is clearly an editorial response to the report issued recently by the Computer and Communications Industry Association, which quite rightly heaps almost all of the blame for the woes of the average user's Internet experience squarely where it belongs: Microsoft. The fact that said report is not mentioned *once* is in itself a glaring oversight on the part of the journalist. Microsoft's corporate culture is characterized by inattention to security, and has been for decades, not the hardware manufacturers, not vendors of Unix products, not the Open Source community, only Microsoft. This is why, increasingly, Governments across the globe are turning to alternatives to Microsoft, not only for the reduced costs and less restrictive licensing terms, but out of concern for their security. The U.S. govenment itself is turning to Linux to power it's most secure operations, such as the N.S.A. I would hope that Mr. Lohr, supposedly the author of this article, do more and better research to get his facts straight in the future. -- Regards, T Bruce Milne -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Fill what's empty, empty what's full, scratch where it itches. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
