Re: [newbie] Proxy on Command Line
2005. februr 1. 15.08 dtummal Troy Davidson ezt rta: How do you set a proxy for commandline connections? I need to use http access here at work and everything goes through a proxy. I can't get to the http mirrors for urpmi. I assume it is my proxy not setup for commandline communications. Thanks. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 I have low experiences... :( but too much depends what do you need for. you can set an environmental variable called HTTP_POXY and some progs use it, some do not. e.g.: HTTP_POXY=http://proxy.local.domain:8080 Ati Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Proxy on Command Line
2005. február 1. 15.08 dátummal Troy Davidson ezt írta: How do you set a proxy for commandline connections? I need to use http access here at work and everything goes through a proxy. I can't get to the http mirrors for urpmi. I assume it is my proxy not setup for commandline communications. Thanks. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 I have low experiences... :( but too much depends what do you need for. you can set an environmental variable called HTTP_POXY and some progs use it, some do not. e.g.: HTTP_POXY=http://proxy.local.domain:8080 Ati That did it. I was needing it for URPMI. Thanks. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy
In Konq go to settings then scroll down to proxy, then manually specify proxy settings. Once you have set this up you can add addresses to the bottom half of the screen. Do not put an x in the box as this will reverse what you want so only the addresses in the list the proxy will use. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:26 PM To: Mandrake Subject: RE: [newbie] Proxy On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 19:29, Tony S. Sykes wrote: You need to enable to proxy to ignore local ip addy's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:34 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Proxy For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it tells me can't find proxy so and so? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com HOw can I do this with Konquoror -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 19:29, Tony S. Sykes wrote: You need to enable to proxy to ignore local ip addy's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:34 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Proxy For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it tells me can't find proxy so and so? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com HOw can I do this with Konquoror Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy
You need to enable to proxy to ignore local ip addy's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OOzy Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:34 PM To: Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Proxy For me to go online I have to use a proxy and when I go to 127.0.0.1 it tells me can't find proxy so and so? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] proxy servers..squid vs. apache ?
Randy, Yup, that sure is very interesting! My original comment was driven by my admiration of the underlying strength of Unix - that you have extremely efficient programs that do what they do very well and then you link them together dynamically (e.g. pipes) to do difficult things easily. Squid is an example of a program that does one thing (http proxy serving) very well. I don't have direct experience with Apache, but I understand it's a great web server. So the Unix philosophy suggests to me that if you want to do both, you use both - each doing what they do best. Lee's original question was that, as Apache could also do proxy serving, should he use it instead of Squid. However, he only wanted to use it as a proxy server - which is why we said he should use Squid. In my mind, adding proxy serving to Apache was an unnecessary waste of programming time. Have they compromised it's web serving greatness by making it do more than it needs to do? Isn't that the path to bloatware? I could go on, but will spare you (ever had to reboot Windows just because IE had a crash? - oops, I said I'd spare you - sorry ;-)) I hope someone here can give you some hints as to how to best achieve what you want to do. It *is* an interesting question you pose and one, I'm sure, that will have interesting (and multiple) solutions (sigh - one just wants time to play with these things!!!) Good luck - and thanks for making this interesting. Looking forward to the creative solutions! Ron. --- Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Bouwhuis wrote: --- Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apache is primarily a web server; Squid is primarily a proxy app. It sounds like you need Squid, not Apache. Lee, if it's consensus you need, I concur with Sridhar. Your question becomes interesting if you want to do both! OK, then let's make it interesting! I want to do both. For a small computer school (teaching computers to mostly mature people who may never have touched a computer (teaching Windows, BTW, for the time being), I'd like to set up a server that will not be connected to the Internet, but will simulate the Internet so that we can connect to it from (Windows) workstations and do Internet things like surf the web, download (ftp) files, send and receive mail between workstations, and use IRC between workstations. For the browsing, I'm considering installing Squid, going online to surf and fill the cache, then switching to offline mode during class periods. (I may actually bring the server home to fill the cache and take it back to the school (a church) for class -- the church is reluctant to have a live connection to the Internet.) Since I know almost nothing about Squid, my first question was going to be do I need Apache. From this post, I infer that I do not. I'm also considering installing a wiki (TWiki) which works on top of Apache for a class notes application, so in the end I do need both Squid and Apache. I assume that I can install both and make them work independently. Until I learn more, we will probably use the raw tcp/ip address to browse the TWiki (i.e., urls like http://192.168.0.8/v/Abiword). I guess to do better I'd either have to set up a local DNS nameserver or put something in the hosts file of each workstation? Any other hints or suggestions? thanks, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] proxy servers..squid vs. apache ?
OK, make my life intersting, I want to do both, Squid to cache and serve webpages to my home network, Apache to serve web pages to the external world. got instructions? On Monday 19 November 2001 01:05, you wrote: --- Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:57:28 -0500, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see apache has a proxy module..now an interesting choice here. What does the panel at large say about which one is preferable. I won't be serving any web pages,just a home network here. Any performance advantages of 1 over the other? Again,thank you all for your time,and of course..hava great week all :-) Lee Apache is primarily a web server; Squid is primarily a proxy app. It sounds like you need Squid, not Apache. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Lee, if it's consensus you need, I concur with Sridhar. Your question becomes interesting if you want to do both! Ron. __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] proxy servers..squid vs. apache ?
Ron Bouwhuis wrote: --- Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apache is primarily a web server; Squid is primarily a proxy app. It sounds like you need Squid, not Apache. Lee, if it's consensus you need, I concur with Sridhar. Your question becomes interesting if you want to do both! OK, then let's make it interesting! I want to do both. For a small computer school (teaching computers to mostly mature people who may never have touched a computer (teaching Windows, BTW, for the time being), I'd like to set up a server that will not be connected to the Internet, but will simulate the Internet so that we can connect to it from (Windows) workstations and do Internet things like surf the web, download (ftp) files, send and receive mail between workstations, and use IRC between workstations. For the browsing, I'm considering installing Squid, going online to surf and fill the cache, then switching to offline mode during class periods. (I may actually bring the server home to fill the cache and take it back to the school (a church) for class -- the church is reluctant to have a live connection to the Internet.) Since I know almost nothing about Squid, my first question was going to be do I need Apache. From this post, I infer that I do not. I'm also considering installing a wiki (TWiki) which works on top of Apache for a class notes application, so in the end I do need both Squid and Apache. I assume that I can install both and make them work independently. Until I learn more, we will probably use the raw tcp/ip address to browse the TWiki (i.e., urls like http://192.168.0.8/v/Abiword). I guess to do better I'd either have to set up a local DNS nameserver or put something in the hosts file of each workstation? Any other hints or suggestions? thanks, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] proxy servers..squid vs. apache ?
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:57:28 -0500, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see apache has a proxy module..now an interesting choice here. What does the panel at large say about which one is preferable. I won't be serving any web pages,just a home network here. Any performance advantages of 1 over the other? Again,thank you all for your time,and of course..hava great week all :-) Lee Apache is primarily a web server; Squid is primarily a proxy app. It sounds like you need Squid, not Apache. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected -- The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] proxy servers..squid vs. apache ?
--- Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:57:28 -0500, lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see apache has a proxy module..now an interesting choice here. What does the panel at large say about which one is preferable. I won't be serving any web pages,just a home network here. Any performance advantages of 1 over the other? Again,thank you all for your time,and of course..hava great week all :-) Lee Apache is primarily a web server; Squid is primarily a proxy app. It sounds like you need Squid, not Apache. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan Lee, if it's consensus you need, I concur with Sridhar. Your question becomes interesting if you want to do both! Ron. __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Proxy Server
Not so dumb. If your Linux box is your only PC in the house, it won't do much. It might increase your web-browsing when viewing the same sites many times, but that's probably it. Notice I said it Might. Primarily, it is intended for use on a server/PC which is used as a gateway for multiple PC;'s , in which case, commonly-viewed web-pages would be loaded from cache memory on the proxy-server, instead of from the actual web-site. Once someone has viewed the site, that page is stored in the cache and offered to other PC's behind the proxy to cut down on Internet performance requirements. So, if you have 4 computers being fed by the proxy-server, and the users all like going to amazon.com, the web-pages from amazon would be stored on the proxy when the first PC went to that site, and subsequently handed off to other PC's when they also wanted to go to amazon.com. Going to another page on the amazon web-site would repeat the process. Having never tried it on a stand-alone PC myself, I'm not sure it would provide this function to that one PC, but then again, your browser would perform the same function on it's own. Lanman On Saturday 08 September 2001 09:29 am, you wrote: Maybe a dumb question, but... (Apart from using a Linux box as your home network gateway) what do you use a proxy server for on the same machine as you access the net? Cheers, Rod. At 13:23 04/09/2001 -0400, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: Squid is great. http://www.squid-proxy.org. Mandrake comes with Squid however. Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, May I know which proxy server would u recommend for mandrake, and where do I get information to configure it? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Proxy Server
Maybe a dumb question, but... (Apart from using a Linux box as your home network gateway) what do you use a proxy server for on the same machine as you access the net? Cheers, Rod. At 13:23 04/09/2001 -0400, Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: Squid is great. http://www.squid-proxy.org. Mandrake comes with Squid however. Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, May I know which proxy server would u recommend for mandrake, and where do I get information to configure it? Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy and NAT
I like the discussion, but here's one question that's baffled me: How does the NAT distinguish between sessions with clients who whish to talk to the same port on the same IP ? My Theory: The NAT or the Foreign IP server will issue a unique port number for each session, and the NAT will then reverse-translate the unique ports to the port that the client expects... Just another shot in the wind... -Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Kramer Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Proxy and NAT Jose (and everyone), Thanks for the response! I may need to digest it a little more, but my first take on the difference is that I need more software on my host (the workstation) to work with a proxy server, and it has to go through the extra step of logging on to my Internet gateway (which, in this case, I guess, would be my proxy server). Are there any practical (i.e., user visible) advantages or disadvantages of a proxy server vs. NAT? Any reason I should consider switching? Maybe one thing comes to mind -- I guess Squid (if I have the right name -- that thing that can cache Internet pages on my local LAN) is a proxy server (or a variation or enhancement of a proxy server), and, I suspect, no one has ever built a NAT gateway with similar caching capabilities? Not that I'd ever try to build one, but if both proxy servers and NAT gateways had caching capabilities, would one be a better choice than the other? Why? Randy Kramer Jose M. Sanchez wrote: For all intents and purposes, MAC addresses have no bearing on NAT or PROXY. Good! You are reasonably close but the devil is in the details... I'm sure -- I was trying to keep it simple for myself. --- Now my question: Can somebody tell me what is different about a proxy server? (In some similar oversimplified but reasonably correct and adequate form) --- A NAT server repackages the protected outbound packets and sends them out to the internet as if originating from the NAT host machine. Proxy on the other hand does NOT requires packets to be repackaged rather the HOST acts as an agent or proxy (hence the term) on your behalf. With a proxy server the addresses used on the protected net are almost unimportant. The client logs in (passive proxies and login-less proxies confuse things a bit) to the proxy on your behalf and submits the request, etc. With NAT the client software can safely assume that your client machine is on the internet. As a result there need be no special PROXY code included in the client. Client software believes the machine to be directly connected to the net with the NAT host as the gateway. With proxy the client software can effectively only contact the internet via the proxy. Seemingly a small difference, but in fact it's a huge difference. -JMS
Re: [newbie] Proxy and NAT
The Cisco PIX firewall does it like this: clientA: 10.0.0.1===(PIX)123.4.5.6:5677Server clientB: 10.0.0.2===(PIX)123.4.5.6:5678Server What I'm trying to say here is that, where there are a limited number of valid Internet addresses available to the outside (Internet) interface of the NAT, then it sends data to the Internet server as if that data was coming from the same IP address but different ports. This is known as Port Address Translation in the Cisco world. So basically the NAT translates two different internal addresses (10.0.0.1/2) into the same external address but with different ports. The difference between this and your suggestion is that it is the NAT box which provides the different port numbers. The Cisco PIX firewall is basically a NAT box with added security features, and this method of doing things does not necessarily apply elsewhere. This scheme cannot be used with streaming protocols, according to Cisco; I've never tried. Chris === Chris Slater-Walker BA(Hons) CCNA CCDA MCSE Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS French German Spoken === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.slater-walker.net/ == - Original Message - From: Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Proxy and NAT TinyHoffman wrote: How does the NAT distinguish between sessions with clients who whish to talk to the same port on the same IP ? My Theory: The NAT or the Foreign IP server will issue a unique port number for each session, and the NAT will then reverse-translate the unique ports to the port that the client expects... I don't know -- suspect it is one of those details that the devil is in ;-) It does seem to work properly -- I've browsed the same sites from adjacent machines, and never seemed to have a problem that I could attribute to the data coming to the (my) wrong client machine. Maybe somebody else can answer your question. regards, Randy Kramer
RE: [newbie] Proxy and NAT
The Cisco PIX firewall does it like this: clientA: 10.0.0.1===(PIX)123.4.5.6:5677Server clientB: 10.0.0.2===(PIX)123.4.5.6:5678Server Gotcha, the NAT is responcible for port allocation... This scheme cannot be used with streaming protocols, according to Cisco; I've never tried. Hmm... I'll have to see if I can get the NAT/PAT on my LAN to ship streaming audio... that's a good question. As UDPs cary Port numbers, just as TCPs, I don't know why not... though I am certain someone will edumacate me... Thanks for your time... Chris === Chris Slater-Walker BA(Hons) CCNA CCDA MCSE Cisco, Windows NT, Linux, Samba, DNS - Chris TinyHoffman wrote: How does the NAT distinguish between sessions with clients who whish to talk to the same port on the same IP ? My Theory: The NAT or the Foreign IP server will issue a unique port number for each session, and the NAT will then reverse-translate the unique ports to the port that the client expects... I don't know -- suspect it is one of those details that the devil is in ;-) It does seem to work properly -- I've browsed the same sites from adjacent machines, and never seemed to have a problem that I could attribute to the data coming to the (my) wrong client machine. Maybe somebody else can answer your question. regards, Randy Kramer
RE: [newbie] Proxy and NAT
I know the above is oversimplified, but I hope it's reasonably correct. (I'm pretty sure I should have talked about sending packets to MAC addresses at times, but I don't know or remember enough to do that, and I think (??) this oversimplified view is adequate for my purposes.) --- For all intents and purposes, MAC addresses have no bearing on NAT or PROXY. You are reasonably close but the devil is in the details... --- Now my question: Can somebody tell me what is different about a proxy server? (In some similar oversimplified but reasonably correct and adequate form) --- A NAT server repackages the protected outbound packets and sends them out to the internet as if originating from the NAT host machine. Proxy on the other hand does NOT requires packets to be repackaged rather the HOST acts as an agent or proxy (hence the term) on your behalf. With a proxy server the addresses used on the protected net are almost unimportant. The client logs in (passive proxies and login-less proxies confuse things a bit) to the proxy on your behalf and submits the request, etc. With NAT the client software can safely assume that your client machine is on the internet. As a result there need be no special PROXY code included in the client. Client software believes the machine to be directly connected to the net with the NAT host as the gateway. With proxy the client software can effectively only contact the internet via the proxy. Seemingly a small difference, but in fact it's a huge difference. -JMS
Re: [newbie] proxy setup on install of 7.1
I believe its for use if you are installing over a network or the internet itself. Its so it can connect to an outside server and download the packages. JOhn -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:41:04 +0100 Hi, My first question to the list, (probably first of many!) Installing Mandrake 7.1 x86, a question is asked about the http and ftp proxy. Which application does these setting correspond to? Which files is this information stored? It does not affect Netscape Navigator so im just wandering why? thanks Andy
Re: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake?
Yeah, Juno bought WorldSpy, also a free ISP, recently also. -Gary- In a message dated 7/20/2000 11:25:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Help! The free ISP I use in Linux (FreeWWWeb) was just bought out by Juno! :::refraining from vulgarity:::
Re: [newbie] Proxy problem
http://ip adress here for using the nt server as your proxy i had the same problem cause i used the computer name instead of its ip address
RE: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake?
Linux makes this fairly simple. First, you need to get Linux to connect and exchange packets (surf) with the new ISP. While people on this list are fond of recommending KPPP. Linuxconf provides a much better way of doing it. Linuxconf also sets up everything else for you, once you understand it's quirks. It also handles configuration of resolver, and other issues... Second once this is done, you select a reserved subnet for your Win98 boxes. I.E. 192.168.0.0 is good to use. You configure Linux's eth0 interface (the lan card) to be the lowest numbered device... I.E. 192.168.0.1 with a Netmask of 255.255.255.0 gateway (blank). and turn ON routing. You add TWO lines to /etc/rc.local and you are done. Modify the Win9x TCP/IP configs, and surf away. I've posted detail instructions before on this and other lists (I hate retyping it yet again... heh...) but get your new ISP and come back here for more help. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-Original Message- |From: Rob Ogilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 6:40 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake? | | |Help! The free ISP I use in Linux (FreeWWWeb) was just bought out |by Juno! :::refraining from |vulgarity::: | |I am an AOL member :::I know... I know... so needed an ISP |for Linux. I do not feel like |spending $20/month on another ISP. I have a four computer LAN, |all the computers except this one |are running Windows 98. I know ICS will not work with Linux, but, |are there other programs out |there that will allow me to proxy my Windows connection to my |Linux box? I am really at a loss as |to how to access the internet right now, I feel lost having to go |into Windows for internet |access! HELP | |Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! | |Rob | |= | | | | | | |__ |Do You Yahoo!? |Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! |http://mail.yahoo.com/ |
Re: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake?
Hi Rob! For me Win 98 SE ICS works for mandrake 7.02 also. I have a lan with two PC: One with Mandrake 7.02 / Win 98 SE (I call it PC2)and the other one with Win98 SE (I call it PC1). PC1 have a modem connected a dial-up line to the internet provider. I have internet access at PC2, with Win 98 and with Mandrake 7.02 (192.168.0.2) through the W98 SE PC (192.168.0.1). To do it: make the network connection according to the instructions in Setup Of A GNU/Linux/Windows9x Micro-LAN http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cmlan.html PC 2 (with Mandrake 7.02): DNS: DNS of your internet provider (ISP) Gateway: 192.168.0.1 (IP address of PC1) Note: I use a fixed address with PC2 with Mandrake 7.02. I did not try if DHCP works with Win / Linux. That's it! I can browse with Netscape, I can send and receive emails and have fun with irc with Mandrake 7.02, connected to a Win 98 SE PC using ICS. Bye Pedro From: Rob Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake? Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Help! The free ISP I use in Linux (FreeWWWeb) was just bought out by Juno! :::refraining from vulgarity::: I am an AOL member :::I know... I know... so needed an ISP for Linux. I do not feel like spending $20/month on another ISP. I have a four computer LAN, all the computers except this one are running Windows 98. I know ICS will not work with Linux, but, are there other programs out there that will allow me to proxy my Windows connection to my Linux box? I am really at a loss as to how to access the internet right now, I feel lost having to go into Windows for internet access! HELP Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Rob = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake?
-Original Message- From: Rob Ogilvie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 5:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Proxy Connection FROM 98 to Mandrake? Help! The free ISP I use in Linux (FreeWWWeb) was just bought out by Juno! :::refraining from vulgarity::: I am an AOL member :::I know... I know... so needed an ISP for Linux. I do not feel like spending $20/month on another ISP. I have a four computer LAN, all the computers except this one are running Windows 98. I know ICS will not work with Linux, but, are there other programs out there that will allow me to proxy my Windows connection to my Linux box? I am really at a loss as to how to access the internet right now, I feel lost having to go into Windows for internet access! HELP I use Spoon Proxy and it wroks like a champ. http://www.pi-soft.com/spoonproxy/ Go to the above. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Rob = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Proxy server and cable setup.
I use RR in Rocheste, NY just set the protocol for you nic to DHCP (under linuxconf) and linux will setup the rest based on the info it receives from the DHCP server "Pittman, Merle" wrote: contact your ISP and get all the info (DNS, IP, gateway, etc.) and then you can proceed. -Original Message- From: George Jones IV [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 7:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Proxy server and cable setup. I just built up a new machine to serve as my proxy server using Mandrake7. The problem is that I have no idea how to set it up as one! I also cannot get my RoadRunner setup under Linux. I'm using a 3com Cable Modem cmx going into a Linksys 10 base T PCI card. M7 has detected the nic and set it up when I installed the OS. How do I set this up?
RE: [newbie] Proxy Setting
There's some ISP's out there that run off a satellite connection using proxy software to the main office. It doesn't work very well, that's why I dumped em. (mainly for remote/rural areas) -Original Message- From: Steve Philp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Proxy Setting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody here knows how to Proxy Netscape . I've edited it in setting (Control) for Netscape but still it does not point to my ISP Proxy a windows NT using Wingate... Thanks Lapu_Lapu You should be able to set it under the Advanced/Proxies tab in the Preferences window of Netscape. Simply tell it 'Manual Configuration' then enter the hostname and port number for each relevant item. That should be all you need to do! An ISP using Win NT and Wingate?? What sort of fly-by-night operation is that?! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Proxy Setting
My ISP runs a NT server... which goes down atleast 1-2 times on the weekend and the mail server goes down every other day. hmm... makes ya think... but when you are in the middle of no-where I guess you don't have a choice. On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:04:20 -0500 Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody here knows how to Proxy Netscape . I've edited it in setting (Control) for Netscape but still it does not point to my ISP Proxy a windows NT using Wingate... Thanks Lapu_Lapu You should be able to set it under the Advanced/Proxies tab in the Preferences window of Netscape. Simply tell it 'Manual Configuration' then enter the hostname and port number for each relevant item. That should be all you need to do! An ISP using Win NT and Wingate?? What sort of fly-by-night operation is that?! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Proxy Setting
On Mon, 08 Nov 1999, you wrote: My ISP runs a NT server... which goes down atleast 1-2 times on the weekend and the mail server goes down every other day. hmm... makes ya think... but when you are in the middle of no-where I guess you don't have a choice. My ISP's mail goes down several times everyday, news is every other day. Smack dab in the middle of AR, where they just think they're on the cuttin edge of technology. As does the local telephone co., altho their lines are at best 28,8 capable www.csw.net is running Apache/1.2.6 FrontPage/3.0.4 on Linux phone lines by GTE www.gte.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2 on Solaris I keep tellin y'all it's the USER, not the OS ;- According to CSW, my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], but that only works some of the time. Far as I know the one I discovered and go by is the one in my sig. It works most of the time. I've lived here almost two years, having moved from Texas. GTE's found it necessary to change my phone number 3 times. -- .. Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [newbie] Proxy Setting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody here knows how to Proxy Netscape . I've edited it in setting (Control) for Netscape but still it does not point to my ISP Proxy a windows NT using Wingate... Thanks Lapu_Lapu You should be able to set it under the Advanced/Proxies tab in the Preferences window of Netscape. Simply tell it 'Manual Configuration' then enter the hostname and port number for each relevant item. That should be all you need to do! An ISP using Win NT and Wingate?? What sort of fly-by-night operation is that?! -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Proxy setup under Linux-Mandrake. How?
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/IPCHAINS-HOWTO-3.html If you want to be REALLY fancy, try this But first try the above to test whether you are connected properly. http://www.vu.union.edu/~pants/ Now proxy server is a nice buzzword, but most people don't realize there are alternatives to SQUID. One is the ancient IP masquerade, which allows better connectivity in some cases. That is what IPCHAINS is about. I make the following assumptions: 1. Your Windows boxes and your linux box have ethernet interfaces. 2. All your boxes are either connected by properly terminated daisy-chain of Coax cable and BNC T-connectors or by 8 wire twisted pair cable through RJ-45 connectors plugged into a hub. 3. You have an addressing scheme that uses one of the sets of IP numbers reserved for LANs for your TCP/IP connections. For Class A, it's 10.x.y.z with a netmask of 255.0.0.0, for class C it is 256 networks back to back (192.168.n.x) with netmasks of 255.255.255.0 (or use it all as one with 192.168.x.y and a netmaskof 255.255.0.0) Someone else on the list is sure to remember what the numbers are for a B network reserved for LANs. OK, pick addresses on the SAME network )this is an interplay of netmask and addressing scheme, each bit in the netmask, looked at as a 32-bit binary number, which is a 1, says that if the addresses are different at that position, then the addresses are on DIFFERENT networks. an address of 10.0.0.1 and 10.1.0.1 are on the same network if the netmask is the "standard" 255.0.0.0 for class A networks, which contain up to 16777214 interfaces/hosts, but they are on Different networks if the netmask is 255.255.anything.anything( Lets assume, to avoid a course in IP addressing schemes, 4. Addresses are 10.0.0.1 for the ethernet interface on the linux box, and are assigned to the windows boxes on their startup. (Yeeks, that means you make sure you load dhcpd and use the System V init to call it in for runlevels 3 and 5) 5. On the windows boxes, the users have right-clicked Network Neighborhood, selected TCP/IP, and set automatic address assignment for IP addresses. ALSO, Gateway tab has been set to 10.0.0.1 WINS resolution has been disabled NETBEUI and such have been trashed. DNS has been Enabled and host name set to the host/domain of the Linux box Your ISP's DNS Server numbers have been entered The user has run the Internet Connection Wizard and has answered that he will connect using his LAN [Optional but important] The network administrator has searched the internet and downloaded ie-off.exe to all win98 boxes, and some other form of browser has been loaded. MSIE is REALLY asking to be cracked and smashed. On the 95 boxes, the users have agreed to not click any icons that look like planet Earth. [Also optional but definitely a goal for better operation] The windows users have floppies that boot DOS and contain FDISK, and they have Venus installation CDs and their machines are set to boot from CD and VBG 6. On the linux box, you have a connection to the internet which may be any of the standard methods of connection. The only difference in them is that they have different names and some might have the same IP address all the time. For example ISDN and DSL could have Static IPs for the internet or they may have dynamically assigned ones. A dial-up is almost always dynamically assigned. DSL would be an eth type connection, usually, ISDN you have a K desktop setup for, which will work. Your network settings on the linux box are very important. Interfaces--lo127.0.0.1 eth010.0.0.1 ppp0 #if you use ISDN or DSL this will be #different Their ATBOOTs should be "Yes" for the first two, and optionally yes for the third, especially if the third is to be a steady internet connection. Routing tick the Network Packet Forwarding Gateway MUST be blank unless you have a static IP supplied by your ISP Default Gateway Device: ppp0 if you are using a modem, or whatever if you are using the ethernet or ISDN 7. Now, finally raise an xterm and type those three lines from the first URL I showed you. This will suffice for testing purposes. 8. You can close some ports with IPCHAINS, and deny output to some known annoyances like doubleclick.net by writing IPCHAINS rules It can do some packet filtering, but isn't quite the firewall some of the commercial firewalls are. It was confusing to me until recently, since I was used to ipfwadm and there were enough changes that IPCHAINS won an award at Linuxworld Expo this year. 9. If you want a proxy, you can load Squid and make sure your winboxes connect to www at its input port, or you can go to the second site and download their stuff. The mandrake Squid
Re: [newbie] Proxy setup under Linux-Mandrake. How?
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, The Postman wrote: How can I set up my Linux box to be a proxy server for my Windows machines? Is there third party software for this or does Linux-Mandrake 6.0 already come with the tools under the hood? Please point me to a FAQ on this or answer what you can. Postman Migrating from Windows If you want full network support read the Masqurade howto, available on your CD, on your HD in /usr/doc/HOWTO/, or on any LDP mirror. If you just want http/ftp support look into squid. -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [newbie] Proxy setup under Linux-Mandrake. How?
Civileme wrote: http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/IPCHAINS-HOWTO-3.html If you want to be REALLY fancy, try this But first try the above to test whether you are connected properly. http://www.vu.union.edu/~pants/ Now proxy server is a nice buzzword, but most people don't realize there are alternatives to SQUID. One is the ancient IP masquerade, which allows better connectivity in some cases. That is what IPCHAINS is about. The advantage to Squid is that a relatively small Internet connection looks much bigger to the clients. Caching of incoming content, Squid's main purpose, allows me to easily server around 30 machines over an 128k ISDN connection to the 'net. Put Junkbuster in front of it to block inappropriate sites and you've got yourself a nice easy corporate solution for controlled web browsing. -- Steve Philp Network Administrator Advance Packaging Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
