Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. I had this same problem and it took me FOREVER to find out how to fix it What I did was make sure that all the development libraries and kernel headres were installed. They should all be on your Mandrake CD. If you don't know what to look for, have no fear; the RPM's on the CD have VERY descriptive names. The ones with devel- in them should be development tools/libraries and the kernel headers should have the words 'Kernel-header' or something to this effect in their filenames. Hope This helped!! adam eubank
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, spooky wrote: hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. I had this same problem and it took me FOREVER to find out how to fix it What I did was make sure that all the development libraries and kernel headres were installed. They should all be on your Mandrake CD. If you don't know what to look for, have no fear; the RPM's on the CD have VERY descriptive names. RPMS dir on the CD 'rpm -qpil *.rpm 'whater dir you want the txt file in /RPMS.txt example:'cd' to the /RPMS dir on the CD then (I) type 'rpm -qpil *.rpm /home/tom/RPMS.txt ' *caution* this will create a 5 to 7 mb .txt file (takes a minute or 2), but it will include all the info and more that you see in Kpackage for every rpm on the CD. and you can use a txt editor to search ;) It will tho, show every one of 'em uninstalled ... 'cause they're RO on the CD ;) The ones with devel- in them should be development tools/libraries and the kernel headers should have the words 'Kernel-header' or something to this effect in their filenames. at MOU, http://www.mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html " Here comes a list of developement libraries which are most often used and should be installed on every workstation: " gives a list of all the packages you'll ever need to compile 99.9% of everything including kernels These packages are included in every Mdk version's CD's, ie, they _are_ on your CD I depend on always choosing the 'development' option during install. you'll get all the above and more ;-) -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. TELL me about it! I just did it for the first time about a week ago. It took me FOREVER to figure it out because MDK 7.02 didn't install the right development libs (or tools, for that matter) for me. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Excellent advice. If you have a slower connection (like mine, 56k), I'd look on the Mandrake CD first. I found out that everything that ./configure has grumped at me for not having so far I found on my CD; the RPM's have VERY descriptive names (THANK GOD : ))! Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. And, remember: if it doesn't work right and the docs don't help (which I've found they don't with errrors you might have during compilation), hit the lists or IRC. Oh, and another good thing that I've discovered: hook up with local (or, if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, not-so-local) LUGs. Read their sites and mailing lists. Almost everything that I read in the lists belonging to LUGs in my state is over my head, but hey: if you don't know it's out there you can't be inquisitive about it. : ) adam eubank
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
You should ALWAYS see if the package exists in RPM format FIRST... http://rpmfind.net If not then try compiling. Remember that if you are compiling a gz file, you'll need to have all the libraries that the package was originally compiled against. Often you'll also need the developement sources for the related libs and packages as well. The fact that your compiler is not working, indicates that you did not perform a "developement" installation when prompted. You'll have to go back and install the missing RPM's. Given that everyone has to compile a program at sometime or another, Developement should be the minimum install for Linux, in my book, in spite of the requirements. -JMS -Original Message- From: Edison Gica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. TELL me about it! I just did it for the first time about a week ago. It took me FOREVER to figure it out because MDK 7.02 didn't install the right development libs (or tools, for that matter) for me. http://www.mandrakeuser.org/basics/bsource.html MUO has all kinds of tutorials and 'walk-thru's. This one will show you what you need and howto extract, compile and install most all source. There's also a section on .rpm's, but for a more extensive tutorial try http://www.rpmdp.org/rpmbook/node1.html On MUO's main page you can also download the whole site in one .tar.gz (~300k), updated monthly -- ~~ Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Excellent advice. If you have a slower connection (like mine, 56k), I'd look on the Mandrake CD first. I found out that everything that ./configure has grumped at me for not having so far I found on my CD; tthe RPM's have VERY descriptive names (THANK GOD : ))! Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. And, remember: if it doesn't work right and the docs don't help (which I've found they don't with errrors you might have during compilation), hit the lists or IRC. Oh, and another good thing that I've discovered: hook up with local (or, if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, not-so-local) LUGs. Read their sites and mailing lists. Almost everything that I read in the lists belonging to LUGs in my state is over my head, but hey: if you don't know it's out there you can't be inquisitive about it. : ) adam eubank
RE: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Have you installed the Kernel headers? -Original Message- Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz hi all: well I tried installing a software that has been proven by many scientists to work w/ a PC windows, Linux and Unix systems. I finished unzipping them and untarring them and gave the command './configure and so forth' and guess what message i got my gcc and C compiler is not working (?). any suggestions would be helpful, I have LM 7.0 version. thanks in advance, edison From: Anthony Huereca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:42:13 -0400 Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:47:54 -0400, Fred Hamilton wrote: First, my system has 164Mb of RAM but Mandrake only reports 64. I got a nice answer a while back on this same issue - saved text follows: To check what Linux detected, use the command 'free'. The output will look like: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:127980 124964 3016 44460 15884 53136 -/+ buffers/cache: 55944 72036 Swap: 130404 2792 127612 The line you're interested in is the top left numeric cell. If that doesn't show roughly the same number, you've got a problem to fix. To get Linux to recognize all of your memory, insert a line reading: append="mem=128M" into /etc/lilo.conf. The "linux" section will then look something like this: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-4mdksmp label=linux root=/dev/hda3 append="mem=128M" read-only After editing /etc/lilo.conf, you'll need to rerun lilo to install the new boot information. This will run it: /sbin/lilo Reboot the machine and all should be well! Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
On 13 Jun 00, at 21:47, Fred Hamilton wrote: correct amount of RAM, but it still only reports 64Mb. How can I fix this, or do I need to worry about it? At the LILO prompt specify the amount of RAM. BTW, how did you get 164MB RAM on your machine? 128+32=160. Maybe, you don't have 164MB RAM.Check. Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? Read the manual pages for tar. In a terminal, man tar, or type tar -- help. That will show you many options. A .tar.gz package is a gzipped version of the actual install files. I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? At the bash or what ever shell you are using, type tar -zvf full_package_name. Then your staroffice application will be untarred to a /opt directory. Go there and read the Readme files. IIRC, there were options for a network or a single user configuration. For help on installing staroffice, there maybe some help at www.mandrakeuser.org. Anyway, man tar and read everything. HTH === Sthitaprajna @mailandnews.com === Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something - Westley of "The Princess Bride"
Re: [newbie] Tar and .Gz
Next, how do I install software from TAR or GZ format? I know how to install packages, but I downloaded a file in GZ format and opened it with the software that came with Mandrake, but I could not figure out what to do next? I mean in Windows there is always a setup.exe, but what about Linux? I know I can extract these files, but I did not know what to do after that. I saw no executables or installation routines. (See I am a newbie!) Example, I have this file: so51a_lnx_01.tar so how do I install it? Once I install it, does it automatically appear on the menu for execution? Compiling from source: Every newbies nightmare. But here's how to make it better. First untar the .tar.gz file by typing "tar -xvzf the_tarred_file.tar.gz". This will create a new directory. Go into that new directory. Read the readme file in that directory, it should contain further and more exact instructions on how to install that particular program. But 95% of the time, the instructions will be the same. In that directory, type "./configure". This will check to make sure you have all the proper libraries installed. If you get an error in this step, take note of what your missing and look for it on rpmfind.net. Then install the missing file with "rpm -Uvh the_missing_file.rpm" as root. Once you get past the ./configure stage with no errors, type "make". This will compile the source, and might take a little while. Once make is done, "su" to root, and type "make install". Once it finishes that, the program is installed. Just type "the_program_name" to run it. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
