Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts (Maxtor Drives)
On Saturday 21 Jun 2003 4:04 am, Erylon Hines wrote: > I don't disagree with that, and I certainly expect my $300 scsi to > last longer than a $30 Maxtor. But, it doesn't always happen that > way. The only safe thing to do is back up your data regularly, and > keep a couple of extra drives on hand. or run RAID. Even 5 drives would only cost $150, add in an IDE card to drive them, and a bit of mecano and few few power splitters to mount them. Then a drive failure wouldn't loose any data. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts (Maxtor Drives)
I don't disagree with that, and I certainly expect my $300 scsi to last longer than a $30 Maxtor. But, it doesn't always happen that way. The only safe thing to do is back up your data regularly, and keep a couple of extra drives on hand. e. On Friday 20 June 2003 06:17 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > I've also observed these problems occur with the lower cost product lines, > but the premium drives seem to keep on running. Remember too that most HD > manufacturers recently cut their warranties from three years to one year on > their low cost lines, but did not cut back the warranty period for their > premium lines. Could there be a connection? You betcha. > > -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts (Maxtor Drives)
On Friday 20 June 2003 01:57 pm, Erylon Hines wrote: > Come on people. ALL drives fail, and I don't care what brand you have. > When I was an admin a couple of years ago we had a stack of failed Seagates > 2 ft high. I have 8 boxes here, and have lost 1 drive in the past 2 years > (a WD). I have Quantum, Seagate (factory rebuilt scsi full-height 9 gig > drives bought a couple of years ago when storage was expensive and > re-builts could be had for cheap), WD and Maxtor drives. I think we may be > seeing a lot of failed Maxtors because there are a LOT of Maxtors out there > now (you can get a 30 gig Maxtor for $30 at Staples after the rebate). > > You wrote: > Maxtor bad, Matrox good. > > > Isaac You're probably both right. I've noted that these things tend to run in streaks -- a while back, WD's had a very bad reputation. Then IBM had problems. Fujitsu recently took their turn in the barrel. Now it looks as if Maxtor may be in for a rough spell (not something I like to think about; there's three of them running here). I've also observed these problems occur with the lower cost product lines, but the premium drives seem to keep on running. Remember too that most HD manufacturers recently cut their warranties from three years to one year on their low cost lines, but did not cut back the warranty period for their premium lines. Could there be a connection? You betcha. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Friday 20 Jun 2003 5:10 pm, Isaac Curtis wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2003 13:15, you wrote: > > On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 5:23 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > > > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 > > > > > > > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this > > > > > list... > > > > > > > > I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists > > > > also. Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very > > > > solid"... > > > > > > wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor > > > drives. I went with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. > > > has anyone heard anything bad about the WD drives? my current > > > one was new when installed and has been in the computer for 2-3 > > > months with no problems so far. Thanks. > > > > Yup - you should hear what some people say about WD. I've come > > to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a good > > hard-drive manufacturer. There are scare stories about all of > > them. So, you have to buy something. > > > > Anne > > In my experience working with a wide range of hardware, Maxtor is > just about the bottom of the barrel. Seagate (Barracuda IV is > excellent) is the top of the line for IDE drives, and WD isn't bad > at all. When all you go by is the complaints you hear, everything > will sound relatively equal, but working with a large quantity and > a wide range of drives you start to see distinct tiers in quality, > with Maxtor coming out on bottom of virtually any head-to-head > comparison. I had a frequent flier that used to get confused > about Maxtor vs. Matrox, one being a terrible hard drive > manufacturer and the other being an exceptional (non-3d) graphics > card manufacturer. He would come in with these new hard drives to > be installed and I would have to re-explain every time that they > had nothing to do with one another. Maxtor bad, Matrox good. > I have used Maxtor and Fujitsu drives for years - many years - and have never had problems with either until the problem with Maxtor a few months ago. I spoke to tech support at my vendors, and they said that they had found exactly the same. As I said, I have heard bad about every manufacturer, so I stick with the brands that I have always found to be reliable - and one is Maxtor. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Friday 20 June 2003 08:58 am, Isaac Curtis wrote: > > > 8.0. I'd love to be using one of the newer less clumsy versions but have > no $. I'd download a newer version (have a nice fast cable connection) but > I can't download anything at all because even simple things like gaim won't > install on my computer from rpm files because it says there are none of the > basic libraries there (even though going to the software manager shows them > all perfectly intact.) How does that keep you from downloading the whole distro??? 8.0 is working for you, just not the way you want it, correct? You can save the 9.1 ISO to your hard drive, make a hd installation floppy, and you don't even have to burn it to CD. I couldn't get one of my machines to install from CD, so I copied the iso's to the Windows partition and installed 9.1 from there. You could make a spare partition on your 8.0 install, download 9.1 to that partition and run it from there. Also, Cheapbytes has the whole distro for $6.99, plus shipping. Although I consider 8.0 to be a "good" distro, 9.1 is excellent, and it will run passably on a P200 class machine. No font problems (good anti-aliasing built in), prettier KDE, and no lib dependencies to mess around with. e. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts (Maxtor Drives)
Come on people. ALL drives fail, and I don't care what brand you have. When I was an admin a couple of years ago we had a stack of failed Seagates 2 ft high. I have 8 boxes here, and have lost 1 drive in the past 2 years (a WD). I have Quantum, Seagate (factory rebuilt scsi full-height 9 gig drives bought a couple of years ago when storage was expensive and re-builts could be had for cheap), WD and Maxtor drives. I think we may be seeing a lot of failed Maxtors because there are a LOT of Maxtors out there now (you can get a 30 gig Maxtor for $30 at Staples after the rebate). You wrote: Maxtor bad, Matrox good. > > Isaac > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Description: > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 June 2003 08:03, you wrote: > If you install packages built for the release you are using you will not > get these dependency issues. If however you try to install packages built > for other distros, or try using Mandrake 'Cooker' packages you will run > into all sorts of problems. > > You do not say which release you are using I assume Mandrake 9.1? And you > are trying to install arts? 8.0. I'd love to be using one of the newer less clumsy versions but have no $. I'd download a newer version (have a nice fast cable connection) but I can't download anything at all because even simple things like gaim won't install on my computer from rpm files because it says there are none of the basic libraries there (even though going to the software manager shows them all perfectly intact.) > The easy way to do this is to declare a number of online 'urpmi sources' > your computer can use to download and install packages and their > dependencies. If you go here http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php and > follow the instructions to select urpmi sources for 'Contrib', 'plf' and > 'texstar' then you will be able to download and install hundreds of > packages without any dependency problems. I did that, entered the command in the terminal, and everything worked fine until the last one which cuts out with this error message no matter which ftp source I select: No such file `hdlist2.cz'. wget of [/../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz] failed no hdlist file found for medium "contrib" unable to update medium "contrib" > > So for example you could just type > > urpmi arts > in a root terminal, and your system will work out that the most up to date > arts available for your release is arts-1.1.2-3tex.i586.rpm in the Texstar > source. It will download it as well as any dependency, and will install > them all for you. Tried that after running the scripts the website gave me, and the terminal says exactly what the software manager says, that all the files are there: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blackstripe]# urpmi arts everything already installed So I don't get why any software I try to install from rpm says that I don't have any libraries or even gcc on my computer, because it's all there. > in a root terminal, and your system will work out that the most up to date > arts available for your release is arts-1.1.2-3tex.i586.rpm in the Texstar > source. It will download it as well as any dependency, and will install > them all for you. > > If you want to install a package which is not available in any online > source. Then the best way to do it is to rebuild a .src.rpm That way it > gets built with the libraries you currently have installed > rpm --rebuild package-name.src.rpm > > > As for fonts it is really quite easy now with Mandrake 9.1 > Just set up the urpmi sources as I described. Ignore the Mandrake Fonts GUI > you no longer need it, and just type in a root terminal > > urpmi msfonts msfonts-style freetype2 > > and all Microsofts TrueType fonts will be installed for you, as well as the > 'enhanced' freetype package. Don't have 9.1, and running that command on my box with 8.0 gives me this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blackstripe]# urpmi msfonts msfonts-style freetype2 no package named msfonts no package named msfonts-style I'll look over some more replies and see what I can figure out. Thanks a lot for the help, just a matter of figuring out exactly what's going on. Isaac > HTH > > derek > > On Wednesday 18 Jun 2003 6:02 pm, Isaac Curtis wrote: > > Hey all: > > > > I'm back on Mandrake after a one year hiatus (had no computer at all for > > that time). I feel like I'm back at square one and running into the same > > problems I did several years ago and I don't remember exactly how to deal > > with them all. At the top of the list right now are fonts and libraries. > > > > > > I'll start with the library problems. I can't install any downloaded > > packages because the computer can't seem to find any of my libraries. I > > get the following error trying to install some new KDE packages: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] blackstripe]# rpm -ivh arts-1* > > error: failed dependencies: > > audiofile is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libglib-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libgobject-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libgthread-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libpng12.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libstdc++.so.5 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > > libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 June 2003 11:49, you wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:45:04 -0400 > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Go here and configure all your sources: > > > > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php > > > > 2. then as root, urpmi [packagename] > > > > make sure you add texstar, that's where the msfont and msfont-style rpm > > come from. > > Been there did that... but I didn't see texstar listed for 9.0 Texstar isn't available for 8.0 either, which puts me out of luck. Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 June 2003 13:15, you wrote: > On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 5:23 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 > > > > > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this > > > > list... > > > > > > I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. > > > Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... > > > > wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor drives. > > I went with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. has anyone > > heard anything bad about the WD drives? my current one was new > > when installed and has been in the computer for 2-3 months with no > > problems so far. Thanks. > > Yup - you should hear what some people say about WD. I've come to the > conclusion that there is no such thing as a good hard-drive > manufacturer. There are scare stories about all of them. So, you > have to buy something. > > Anne In my experience working with a wide range of hardware, Maxtor is just about the bottom of the barrel. Seagate (Barracuda IV is excellent) is the top of the line for IDE drives, and WD isn't bad at all. When all you go by is the complaints you hear, everything will sound relatively equal, but working with a large quantity and a wide range of drives you start to see distinct tiers in quality, with Maxtor coming out on bottom of virtually any head-to-head comparison. I had a frequent flier that used to get confused about Maxtor vs. Matrox, one being a terrible hard drive manufacturer and the other being an exceptional (non-3d) graphics card manufacturer. He would come in with these new hard drives to be installed and I would have to re-explain every time that they had nothing to do with one another. Maxtor bad, Matrox good. Isaac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
> well i bought a WD For windows ONLY... My maxtor does linux duty. > My g'f has a maxtor. No problems with either. But they bought > out another company & repackaged them as maxtors on the box... > maybe thats the problem? That was less than ayear ago I > bought mine 2 years ago... Yeah, they bought (part ?) of quantum. To get info on my Quantum Fireball, i had to go to the maxtor site... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
At 11:03 AM 6/19/2003 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... right, this will be my third since December and the second was brand new replacing the original within three weeks... and now not 5 months later. . > > Will there be a time when no sources are available for 9.0? > Of course! Go try to find anything for 8.2 right now, knowwhatimean? Being pretty new to Linux (on and off for a couple years) this surprises me, I see a lot of people still running 8.2. Guess it's time to join the Club. thanks for the advise. well i bought a WD For windows ONLY... My maxtor does linux duty. My g'f has a maxtor. No problems with either. But they bought out another company & repackaged them as maxtors on the box... maybe thats the problem? That was less than ayear ago I bought mine 2 years ago... - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts -HDD's
> I sometimes wonder whether much of the problem people have with hard > drives is to do with mixing the makes on the same ide - line > Same with partitioning tools , keep to the same one for all partitioning. > > John > > -- > John Richard Smith > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I have windoh's on a WD as secondary master with a maxtor as it's slave containing Linux. The Maxtor I am having replaced was the primary master with the CD/DVD as slave. There's no problems with this 9.0 install or the 98 SE. But now I'm wondering if I shouldn't change this arrangement. Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts -HDD's
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:31:40 +0100 John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I sometimes wonder whether much of the problem people have with hard > drives is to do with mixing the makes on the same ide - line > Same with partitioning tools , keep to the same one for all > partitioning. could be, i've got a Maxtor an that's it (60GB is all I need...for now). not a blip so far in...when did 9.1 go final? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Don't believe the Hype! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts -HDD's
Tom Brinkman wrote: As far as WD drives go, they shouldn't be a problem unless used with certain other brand drives on the same IDE channel with Linux. They only do proper CRC checking usin Windoze software aid. Under the Linux kernel, they can corrupt the other drive and themselves. The problem won't occur if the drive is by itself on a IDE channel, or with another WD on that channel. If you're afraid you're in the mixed drives on IDE channel situation, Google's your friend. Also check linux-kernel archives. The situation might have been fixed by now, but WD, AFAIK to date, has refused to help the kernel developers. The only vendor that supports Linux use and developers is IBM, but they've had a lot of recent drive failures too. All vendors have a percentage of failures, and the highest one varies every few months, and is usually limited to certain IDE models. I sometimes wonder whether much of the problem people have with hard drives is to do with mixing the makes on the same ide - line Same with partitioning tools , keep to the same one for all partitioning. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:13:10 +0100 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 4:35 pm, JoeHill wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:31:32 -0500 > So play safe, as I did. Install 9.1 alongside 9.0. If it goes badly > wrong you can still use your old install. If it doesn't you can > ditch 9.0 when you are happy enough. They'll live happily together, > and lilo will find them both. The only thing is that if you didn't > make a separate /boot partition you will need to copy a couple of > files from the old /boot into the new one, to ensure that both can be > run. Otherwise, no problems. Hi Anne, Ahh this could explain why hda - the previous 9.1 install - wouldn't see hdd - where 9.0 lives. So with lilo presently running things from hdd, in order to have control from hda (new 9.1 install), it (hda) would need the /boot partition?... then copy the files from hdd's lilo? Have I got that straight? > > > no reason to be at all. if 9.0 installed easy, 9.1 will just as > > well. It gets easier for me each time, less to do after the initial > > install. > > > Anne > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 5:23 pm, Crak600 - Michael wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 > > > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this > > > list... > > > > I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. > > Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... > > wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor drives. > I went with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. has anyone > heard anything bad about the WD drives? my current one was new > when installed and has been in the computer for 2-3 months with no > problems so far. Thanks. Yup - you should hear what some people say about WD. I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a good hard-drive manufacturer. There are scare stories about all of them. So, you have to buy something. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:23:16 -0400 Crak600 - Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 > > > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... > > > > I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. > > Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... > > wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor drives. I went > with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. has anyone heard anything > bad about the WD drives? my current one was new when installed and has been > in the computer for 2-3 months with no problems so far. Thanks. Someone...here??... said he'd always had trouble with Maxtor disks and had always bought WD, so you sholud be good to go! If this new one goes bad, I'm switching. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 June 2003 12:03 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 > > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... > > I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. > Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... wow, that hearing that makes me glad i didn't order Maxtor drives. I went with WD and am waiting for a 2nd one right now. has anyone heard anything bad about the WD drives? my current one was new when installed and has been in the computer for 2-3 months with no problems so far. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:35:15 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... I've noticed that too..think I've seen it on other lists also. Cust serv said "This drive's proven to be very solid"... right, this will be my third since December and the second was brand new replacing the original within three weeks... and now not 5 months later. . > > Will there be a time when no sources are available for 9.0? > Of course! Go try to find anything for 8.2 right now, knowwhatimean? Being pretty new to Linux (on and off for a couple years) this surprises me, I see a lot of people still running 8.2. Guess it's time to join the Club. thanks for the advise. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:49:55 -0500 Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > Been there did that... but I didn't see texstar listed for 9.0 heh, I been having some problems with my e-mails taking a long time to get to the list, not sure why, I think my ISP doesn't like the fact that they can't port scan me...idiots. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Don't believe the Hype! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:45:04 -0400 JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Go here and configure all your sources: > > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php > > 2. then as root, urpmi [packagename] > > make sure you add texstar, that's where the msfont and msfont-style rpm > come from. Been there did that... but I didn't see texstar listed for 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:31:32 -0500 Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > I just discovered the easyurpmi site and set up sources a couple days > ago. > I have 9.1 here, just waiting on Maxtor to get my replacement disk to > me. this worries me, I here a lot of Maxtor's failing on this list... > For a while at least I'd like to keep 9.0 for comparison and as a > backup for when I seriously break 9.1. > what I've read about upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) leaves > me a little gunshy. no reason to be at all. if 9.0 installed easy, 9.1 will just as well. It gets easier for me each time, less to do after the initial install. > Will there be a time when no sources are available for 9.0? Of course! Go try to find anything for 8.2 right now, knowwhatimean? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Don't believe the Hype! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
Hi Derek, > > I'm struggling with fonts here this morning and tried the above command - > > what returned was "no package named msfonts" Did I do something wrong or is > > this specific to 9.1? I'm using 9.0 Thanks > > Curt > > That package is in Texstar and Tex does not keep a 9.0 source anymore. > Make sure you have only defined 9.0 sources. If you install packages from a > 9.1 source you could screw up your system. > > The font handling in 9.1 is a *lot* better than 9.0, and since a lot of the > 9.0 sources are disappearing off the net I would recommend upgrading. > > derek I just discovered the easyurpmi site and set up sources a couple days ago. I have 9.1 here, just waiting on Maxtor to get my replacement disk to me. For a while at least I'd like to keep 9.0 for comparison and as a backup for when I seriously break 9.1.. what I've read about upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) leaves me a little gunshy. Will there be a time when no sources are available for 9.0? Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:38:20 -0500 Curt Tresenriter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > I'm struggling with fonts here this morning and tried the above > command - what returned was "no package named msfonts" Did I do > something wrong or is this specific to 9.1? I'm using 9.0 1. Go here and configure all your sources: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php 2. then as root, urpmi [packagename] make sure you add texstar, that's where the msfont and msfont-style rpm come from. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Don't believe the Hype! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thursday 19 Jun 2003 3:38 pm, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:03:19 +0100 > > Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for fonts it is really quite easy now with Mandrake 9.1 > > Just set up the urpmi sources as I described. Ignore the Mandrake Fonts > > GUI you no longer need it, and just type in a root terminal > > > > urpmi msfonts msfonts-style freetype2 > > > > and all Microsofts TrueType fonts will be installed for you, as well as > > the 'enhanced' freetype package. > > > > HTH > > > > derek > > I'm struggling with fonts here this morning and tried the above command - > what returned was "no package named msfonts" Did I do something wrong or is > this specific to 9.1? I'm using 9.0 Thanks > Curt That package is in Texstar and Tex does not keep a 9.0 source anymore. Make sure you have only defined 9.0 sources. If you install packages from a 9.1 source you could screw up your system. The font handling in 9.1 is a *lot* better than 9.0, and since a lot of the 9.0 sources are disappearing off the net I would recommend upgrading. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:03:19 +0100 Derek Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for fonts it is really quite easy now with Mandrake 9.1 > Just set up the urpmi sources as I described. Ignore the Mandrake Fonts GUI > you no longer need it, and just type in a root terminal > > urpmi msfonts msfonts-style freetype2 > > and all Microsofts TrueType fonts will be installed for you, as well as the > 'enhanced' freetype package. > > HTH > > derek I'm struggling with fonts here this morning and tried the above command - what returned was "no package named msfonts" Did I do something wrong or is this specific to 9.1? I'm using 9.0 Thanks Curt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] missing libraries, awkward fonts
Isaac Curtis wrote: >Hey all: > >I'm back on Mandrake after a one year hiatus (had no computer at all for that >time). I feel like I'm back at square one and running into the same problems >I did several years ago and I don't remember exactly how to deal with them >all. At the top of the list right now are fonts and libraries. > > >I'll start with the library problems. I can't install any downloaded >packages because the computer can't seem to find any of my libraries. I get >the following error trying to install some new KDE packages: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] blackstripe]# rpm -ivh arts-1* >error: failed dependencies: >audiofile is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libgcc_s.so.1 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libglib-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libgmodule-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libgobject-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libgthread-2.0.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libpng12.so.0 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libqt-mt.so.3 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libstdc++.so.5 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libstdc++.so.5(CXXABI_1.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2.2) is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libvorbisenc.so.2 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 >libvorbisfile.so.3 is needed by arts-1.1.2-0.9x.1 > >Now, of course all those files are on my computer. I haven't been out of the >game for that long! But why can't the computer find them? I installed >everything just to avoid hassles (including obscure outdated email clients >and every singlne language version of staroffice, which were later cleaned >out, but the point is that EVERYTHING is here). What can I do to fix this so >that I can get going on updates? > Run rpm --updatedb and see if it continues. > >The second problem is with fonts, I know I used to have to tinker around a >bit to get the anti-aliasing running and to get support for the basic >internet fonts. Where do I go to find that stuff out again? Any help on >these two issues would be much appreciated, most all of the other basics are >taken care of. Thanks for your time. > You should not have to do anything to get anti-aliasing to work if you are using a recent version of Mandrake. If by "basic internet fonts" you mean MS fonts you can either add them using the Mandrake Control Center or use the msfonts rpm. If you need to know where to get it let me know. > >Isaac > >PS: This should be sending in plaintext-- if it's not I'm embarassed/sorry, I >think I set it to plaintext earlier but now I can't find the option in KMail. > Yell at me if I messed up and I'll fix it straightaway. Thanks. > > > -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
