[Nighthawk Lovers] Tires and Wear

2012-05-08 Thread Jaybird248
I had a set of Avon AM-26 Roadriders on my 92 NH750.  At about 14K miles, I 
developed a 45-55 MPH vibration. First thought was to replace the front wheel 
bearings but that did no good.  The tech suggested the tires might be worn but 
they still showed lots of tread. I replaced them anyway with Bridgestone 
BT-45s.  Problem solved.  

Lesson learned: Even if tires still show tread, they may be worn out 
internally. I don't know if this is an issue limited to Avons, but I thought 
I'd let you guys know.

Jay S
92 NH750 (119K miles)
South Florida

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Graham Rogers
Paul, can you tell from the graphs who owns Nighthawks and who doesn't and who 
has them locked up at night and who doesn't?  Graham

On May 8, 2012, at 7:06 AM, mike21...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Paul,
 That's some awesome info.
 Does it tell you what version of windows they are using?
 Mike... A fellow geek.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net
 To: Nighthawk Lovers nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 12:14 am
 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!
 
 Check out what happened when the new website design went live tonight...
 Capture.PNG
 
 The action before today was a few of you from Nighthawk Lovers popping over 
 and checking things out. Then, earlier this evening the domain name started 
 forwarding traffic to the new site. It's been fun to see people get on from 
 all over the world.
 
 Capture2.PNG
 And here are a couple other stats my fellow geeks will enjoy:
 
 stats1.png stats2.png
 
  
 Paul LeBoutillier 
  
 www.hondanighthawks.net
 
 
 
 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:
 http://hondanighthawks.net/ 
 
  
 Paul LeBoutillier 
  
 www.hondanighthawks.net
 
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Wandering through 'Your Nighthawk' page..

2012-05-08 Thread Joey Kelley
Does anyone know how the blue 82 750 that is about 1/4th the way down
the page could be putting out 900cc of displacement and over 100 HP at
the rear wheel?
 Paging Eric from Alabama!
   -Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

2012-05-08 Thread Kurt Nolte
I'm not really concerned with deterring a determined thief, that's what
insurance is for, but I want to deter the opportunists from even messing
with the bike. An easily spotted disc lock should do the trick, with the
added bonus of being hard for me to forget too. :D

I seem to recall a statistic that most thefts are crimes of opportunity,
not planning and forethought.

Anyone know how big the holes in the front disc are? Need to measure them
for pin diameter. I can get to it this afternoon, but if someone else is
already using a lock, less work for me. :D

-Kurt

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:

  I was told if they want it, they just put dollies under the wheels. But
 I don’t know if that is true.  I would consider a large chain, a light pole
 and a lock. 

 Ron

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Bryan Gibson
I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires recently 
and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I just 
happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the brake 
pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it manually).  
I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was 
working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that 
removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm 
skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is there 
something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was also 
left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to remove 
the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other modification 
was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the hub 
required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly.  Any 
knowledge of this problem?   

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wandering through 'Your Nighthawk' page..

2012-05-08 Thread Allen Thomas
Big bore kit I would presume.
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wandering through 'Your Nighthawk' page..

Does anyone know how the blue 82 750 that is about 1/4th the way down
the page could be putting out 900cc of displacement and over 100 HP at
the rear wheel?
 Paging Eric from Alabama!
   -Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Allen Thomas
There should be a return spring on the lever near the pivot.
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires recently 
and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I just 
happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the brake 
pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it manually).  
I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was 
working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that 
removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm 
skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is there 
something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was also 
left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to remove 
the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other modification 
was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the hub 
required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly.  Any 
knowledge of this problem?   

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Netting ?

2012-05-08 Thread Joey Kelley
I bought a cargo net at a bike shop that was designed for use by ATV
riders - very heavy construction - been used on two bikes now without
incident.
 -Joey


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is what I have and it works well on the NH.
 http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=emgo+cargo+net_sacat=10063_dmpt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories_odkw=emgo_osacat=10063bkBtn=_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313



 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cycle gear, or I've even seen them at some Walmarts.

 -Kyle

 On May 7, 2012 7:22 PM, Allen Thomas althomas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have an Emgo cargo net. It was like $10 at a bike shop. Works well and
 is better construction than others I've seen.
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 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Netting ?



    I just bought a large gym bag to fasten on the back of my Nighthawk
 450.  I read somewhere?  that they make a kind of netting ( or something
 like that )  to fasten down things like the gym bag. When I put it behind me
 on the seat. I don't know where I saw it and I can't find it again.
   Can someone help me find this netting or something that I can use to
 fasten the bag to the bike.?   thank you very much for your
 help.   Fred

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Bryan Gibson
Yes, that spring is there and it's fine.  Not sure how diligent we were 
about lining anything up when replacing the brake arm.  How much affect 
would that have if they WEREN'T aligned?

Bryan

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:32:05 AM UTC-5, Allen wrote:

 There should be a return spring on the lever near the pivot.
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 *Subject: *[Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

 I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires recently 
 and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I just 
 happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the brake 
 pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it manually).  
 I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was 
 working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that 
 removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm 
 skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is there 
 something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was also 
 left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to remove 
 the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other modification 
 was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the hub 
 required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly.  Any 
 knowledge of this problem?   

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Changes to Paul's Honda Nighthawk Website

2012-05-08 Thread Bill Sandifer
We don' need no stinkin' English.

On May 5, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 Me no English Mr Superman no here... 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

2012-05-08 Thread paul annen
is your clutch disengaging fully? mabey your cable has streched over the
years.  i have a slow leak in my hydro clutch in the goldwing, and when it
gets VERY low the same thing happens


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:

 That has been my thought. We talked about the side stand switch before.
 Page
 296 Clymer. It says the test for continuity in down position is only
 between
 the yellow/black and --grn.  When the stand is up there is continuity
 between the grn/white -- and grn.  The bypass would then be to connect the
 two outside posts.
 Ron


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 From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Ron
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:23 AM
 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

 I don't understand why he put an extra kill switch on the handle bars? Or
 where the wires are running.

 I am wondering about the previous wiring tie in. Could it be that the kill
 switch is grounding out on the handle bars or the odometer is grounding out
 by connecting to the frame?

 Do all your indicator lights work properly before you put it into gear that
 is, the neutral light, side stand light, and high beam indicator work? And
 more importantly do they all stay on or work except the neutral when you
 put
 it in gear and it cuts off?

 If one of your indicator lights don't work except neutral you've narrowed
 down the problem to that loop. If your high beam, turn signals, or horn
 don't work after it shuts off your problem is a ground there.  You can't
 run
 them to long with the engine off or your battery will go dead.

 Ron


 -Original Message-
 From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of xXMr.CrossXx
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:49 PM
 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

 My bike is rigged to a toggle switch under the handle bars. It's kinda
 ratty, but I love it that way. The power to the digital odometer the
 previous owner had on it remained on. It just kills the engine. The
 fuse box appeared to have no blown fuses. The next step is to take the
 tank off or get my hands on a shop manual (I only have the owners
 manual) and try and identify the possibilities and work backwards from
 there...If anyone knows any other things that could be causing my bike
 to shut off when I put it into gear let me know.
 Thanks Ya'll.


 On May 7, 8:17 pm, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:
  Did you maybe inadvertently turn the kill switch to off?  Is the
  battery up to snuff?  Any blown fuses?  A ground wire loose?
 
  Any one of those could cause the issue.
 
  On May 7, 10:59 pm, xXMr.CrossXx jarr...@mugsyclicks.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   I just got a used 1991 Honda NightHawk750 and I love it. Thing is,
   when I got on my bike after work today to ride home I started the
   engine in neutral and let it warm up. When it was warm I shifted it
   into first gear and my bike completely shut off. I tried again and
   again with the same result. I tried shifting it into 2nd and bump
   starting it...Nothing. I had my buddy come by and check the
   electronics on the clutch and the kickstand sensors and they seemed to
   be operating properly. I'm at a loss and I really want to get back on
   my bike.
   Thanks in advance for any advice.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

2012-05-08 Thread xXMr.CrossXx
I will check it today. I went back to the parking lot last night to
put a disc brake lock on it and tried to start it up one last time and
I killed the battery. There is obviously something happening with the
electrical. I will probably need a new battery and I'll try checking
the wiring on my kickstand again. I thought I ruled it out, but it's
worth a second try. I will keep you posted.
Thanks again.

On May 7, 10:35 pm, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:
 That has been my thought. We talked about the side stand switch before. Page
 296 Clymer. It says the test for continuity in down position is only between
 the yellow/black and --grn.  When the stand is up there is continuity
 between the grn/white -- and grn.  The bypass would then be to connect the
 two outside posts.
 Ron







 -Original Message-
 From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com

 [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Ron
 Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:23 AM
 To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

 I don't understand why he put an extra kill switch on the handle bars? Or
 where the wires are running.

 I am wondering about the previous wiring tie in. Could it be that the kill
 switch is grounding out on the handle bars or the odometer is grounding out
 by connecting to the frame?

 Do all your indicator lights work properly before you put it into gear that
 is, the neutral light, side stand light, and high beam indicator work? And
 more importantly do they all stay on or work except the neutral when you put
 it in gear and it cuts off?

 If one of your indicator lights don't work except neutral you've narrowed
 down the problem to that loop. If your high beam, turn signals, or horn
 don't work after it shuts off your problem is a ground there.  You can't run
 them to long with the engine off or your battery will go dead.

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of xXMr.CrossXx
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:49 PM
 To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

 My bike is rigged to a toggle switch under the handle bars. It's kinda
 ratty, but I love it that way. The power to the digital odometer the
 previous owner had on it remained on. It just kills the engine. The
 fuse box appeared to have no blown fuses. The next step is to take the
 tank off or get my hands on a shop manual (I only have the owners
 manual) and try and identify the possibilities and work backwards from
 there...If anyone knows any other things that could be causing my bike
 to shut off when I put it into gear let me know.
 Thanks Ya'll.

 On May 7, 8:17 pm, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:
  Did you maybe inadvertently turn the kill switch to off?  Is the
  battery up to snuff?  Any blown fuses?  A ground wire loose?

  Any one of those could cause the issue.

  On May 7, 10:59 pm, xXMr.CrossXx jarr...@mugsyclicks.com wrote:

   I just got a used 1991 Honda NightHawk750 and I love it. Thing is,
   when I got on my bike after work today to ride home I started the
   engine in neutral and let it warm up. When it was warm I shifted it
   into first gear and my bike completely shut off. I tried again and
   again with the same result. I tried shifting it into 2nd and bump
   starting it...Nothing. I had my buddy come by and check the
   electronics on the clutch and the kickstand sensors and they seemed to
   be operating properly. I'm at a loss and I really want to get back on
   my bike.
   Thanks in advance for any advice.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Roller w/title

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
Just scored a nice roller w/ title, so the search is over. Thanks to
all who posted leads, tips etc.
I'll be parting out 3 bikes soon, Let me know what you are looking
for.
Thanks
Double G

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tires and wear

2012-05-08 Thread zgotts
I run supermoto, on the track I'm 22-24 PSI on DOT tires
(Contimotion / Pirelli Sport Demon). They dont last very long but the
difference in traction is just incredible. The front end used to
chatter and hop when I was at 28 PSI.

Look on the tire for its rated max PSI, and stick to a few PSI below
that for normal street riding. Don't ever exceed max!!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] CB250 Nighthawk 70 mile Daily Highway Commute -- Bad?

2012-05-08 Thread BoonesDaddy
Hi All,

I'm looking for some input from anyone with long term experience with
the Nighthawk 250. I have a 2008 nighthawk that I bought with 3k miles
from a dealer. Since August 2011, I have put 8k miles on it with my
daily 50 mile commute, 20 miles of which is highway. So far this
little bike has held up great and saved my a ton of money on gas
versus my '97 Dodge Durango V8. However, I was just offered a better
teaching job that will require 72 miles on the freeway. It will be a
longer (but faster) commute for me with no lights, but I am worried
that I am going to prematurely destroy my little 250 by running it @
70mph for 72 miles a day.

So my questions are these:

1. Can my Nighthawk hold up in the long term for this commute?

2. If not, any suggestions on a bigger bike with great fuel economy?

I will have to go through a dealer if I need to get a new bike,
because I don't have any cash on hand, so older used bikes are
probably not an option. I really want to hang on to this little bike
as it has treated my well, but if I'm going to destroy it, I will just
have to trade it in. Thanks for your input.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB250 Nighthawk 70 mile Daily Highway Commute -- Bad?

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
The bike is well engineered. (I'm a former Honda tech.)..however heat
build up can be a problem wide open for an extended time. Back off now
and then, maybe find one rest stop along the way. Consider getting a
bigger bike such as a 450 Rebel , 450 nighthawk, CM400, 600 shadow,
etc. Many of these older bikes do not have a lot of miles and can be
picked up for reasonable money. If it takes a while to find a bigger
bike or trade up, be sure to keep an eye on miles and oil change. The
oil change is the best insurance against engine wear and damage. Be
sure to service your air cleaner. Keep your senses tuned to the power
delivery while you are making your ride, if you sense a drop off or
sluggishness, you need to pull over and let er cool down. Better fuel
is better. Good luck.

On May 8, 1:06 pm, BoonesDaddy brandonbogar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm looking for some input from anyone with long term experience with
 the Nighthawk 250. I have a 2008 nighthawk that I bought with 3k miles
 from a dealer. Since August 2011, I have put 8k miles on it with my
 daily 50 mile commute, 20 miles of which is highway. So far this
 little bike has held up great and saved my a ton of money on gas
 versus my '97 Dodge Durango V8. However, I was just offered a better
 teaching job that will require 72 miles on the freeway. It will be a
 longer (but faster) commute for me with no lights, but I am worried
 that I am going to prematurely destroy my little 250 by running it @
 70mph for 72 miles a day.

 So my questions are these:

 1. Can my Nighthawk hold up in the long term for this commute?

 2. If not, any suggestions on a bigger bike with great fuel economy?

 I will have to go through a dealer if I need to get a new bike,
 because I don't have any cash on hand, so older used bikes are
 probably not an option. I really want to hang on to this little bike
 as it has treated my well, but if I'm going to destroy it, I will just
 have to trade it in. Thanks for your input.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tires and wear

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
14K is pretty darned good for a bike like the 700 that engourages
spirited riding. You must be easy on the first gear eh? Do you ride
one bike a certain road and the other another? One to work and another
on the twisties? remember most secondary roads have a crown to shed
rain ( at least here in the staes) and that causes uneven wear on one
side of the tireand as another member said tire pressure is all so
important. No two brands are exactly alike compound tocompound, so I'd
just chaulk it up to that. Yes I'm also sure tread pattern can be an
element as well.

On May 7, 8:59 pm, Dennis den...@samadhisoft.com wrote:
 I've got two CB700SC's; one's a '85 and the other's a '86 - both red/black.

 I got the '85 in 2007 and I immediately put a set of new Avons onto it and I
 got the '86 in 2009 and I immediately put a set of new Dunlops onto it.

 I bought both of these bikes with about 10,000 miles on them and they both
 have about 24,000 now.   So, they've each gone approximately 14,000 since
 their tires were new.

 Today, when I ran the '86 with the Dunlops though the New Zealand Warrant of
 Fitness tests (we have to do this every six months here in new Zealand) I
 was amazed to find out that my front Dunlop has worn down sufficiently that
 he said he'd almost failed me and for sure I'd have to replace if before I
 came in again in six months.

 Originally, I thought my Avons were the softer tire (softer equals better
 grip through curves but they wear out sooner is the way I think it goes) so
 I'd expected that the Avons would be the ones I'd have to replace first.
 But, it seems like the reverse is happening here.

 I looked at the patterns on my tires (see the photos) and I can see the
 Dunlop has a line right down the center whereas the Avon has the lines in a
 wave pattern with breaks.   Not sure if that means much.

 So, is 14,000 miles a reasonable mileage for needing to do a replacement?
 And, did I have it backwards about the Avons being the softer tire?   And,
 what do folks think about Avons verse Dunlops in general?   Or are you keen
 on some other tire brand that you think would be well suited for a 700SC?

 Dennis Gallagher

 Christchurch, New Zealand

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
The angle is important. There should be an alignment arrow on the
lever. the shaft does not have splines where the gap in the lever
slides on. It is possible to get it on wrong with some inattention and
a spread out clamp, but I think you'd notice. Be sure the axle is
adjusted square or exactly the same on both sides w/ the proper
slack in the chain. I like to adjust the chain slack with a riders
weight actually on the bike, but that's me. Then be sure the round
pivot in the small lever the rod rides in is not cocked, check the rod
on the lever end, be sure the spring is on right, take the lever off
and clean up the pivot and inside the lever, when it dropped down when
free, it may have picked up enough contaminant to gum up the works. I
like to lube such pivots w/ moly or waterproof marine grease. And
don't forget the problem could be in the backing plate where the brake
cam goes thru the backing plate. I'd hope this was cleaned and lubed
when shoes went in, but you knowtake a good look there.

On May 8, 11:16 am, Bryan Gibson bgibso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, that spring is there and it's fine.  Not sure how diligent we were
 about lining anything up when replacing the brake arm.  How much affect
 would that have if they WEREN'T aligned?

 Bryan



 On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:32:05 AM UTC-5, Allen wrote:

  There should be a return spring on the lever near the pivot.
  Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
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  *Sender: * nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
  *Date: *Tue, 8 May 2012 07:21:04 -0700 (PDT)
  *To: *nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
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  *Subject: *[Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

  I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires recently
  and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I just
  happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the brake
  pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it manually).
  I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was
  working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that
  removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm
  skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is there
  something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was also
  left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to remove
  the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other modification
  was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the hub
  required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly.  Any
  knowledge of this problem?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB250 Nighthawk 70 mile Daily Highway Commute -- Bad?

2012-05-08 Thread paul annen
i was using my cb250 1999 for a 80 miles round trip 2 up daily for a few
years. never a problem even in the florida heat. my commute was mostly
highway though.

it is a great little bike and i love it..

i agree with keeping an eye on the oil changes, but also i ate through
sprockets, so buy good ones and a good chain, and keep them lubed well.
you can also tweek the size of the sprockets to best fit you, i changes
around so i could maintain 70mph 2 up, but it hurt fuel economy (went down
to 50ish) now i get 45 on my goldwing, but still miss that little beast for
the in town stuff i find myself doing now



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The bike is well engineered. (I'm a former Honda tech.)..however heat
 build up can be a problem wide open for an extended time. Back off now
 and then, maybe find one rest stop along the way. Consider getting a
 bigger bike such as a 450 Rebel , 450 nighthawk, CM400, 600 shadow,
 etc. Many of these older bikes do not have a lot of miles and can be
 picked up for reasonable money. If it takes a while to find a bigger
 bike or trade up, be sure to keep an eye on miles and oil change. The
 oil change is the best insurance against engine wear and damage. Be
 sure to service your air cleaner. Keep your senses tuned to the power
 delivery while you are making your ride, if you sense a drop off or
 sluggishness, you need to pull over and let er cool down. Better fuel
 is better. Good luck.

 On May 8, 1:06 pm, BoonesDaddy brandonbogar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I'm looking for some input from anyone with long term experience with
  the Nighthawk 250. I have a 2008 nighthawk that I bought with 3k miles
  from a dealer. Since August 2011, I have put 8k miles on it with my
  daily 50 mile commute, 20 miles of which is highway. So far this
  little bike has held up great and saved my a ton of money on gas
  versus my '97 Dodge Durango V8. However, I was just offered a better
  teaching job that will require 72 miles on the freeway. It will be a
  longer (but faster) commute for me with no lights, but I am worried
  that I am going to prematurely destroy my little 250 by running it @
  70mph for 72 miles a day.
 
  So my questions are these:
 
  1. Can my Nighthawk hold up in the long term for this commute?
 
  2. If not, any suggestions on a bigger bike with great fuel economy?
 
  I will have to go through a dealer if I need to get a new bike,
  because I don't have any cash on hand, so older used bikes are
  probably not an option. I really want to hang on to this little bike
  as it has treated my well, but if I'm going to destroy it, I will just
  have to trade it in. Thanks for your input.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
Just be sure to use a reminder loop with the lock so you don't try
to ride off with the lock on. It may come with the lock, but it is as
simple as a piece of thin rope that runs from the lock to your handle
bar grip to remind you. Nothing like replacing a bent disk when you
don't have to.

On May 7, 10:58 pm, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just as the title says. I'm interested in picking up a disc lock at some
 point during the summer; in the fall I go back to working a couple nights,
 and our area isn't the best for theft. While I've been lucky so far, and I
 park right in view of a security camera, I like doubling up my caution with
 my ride.

 Looking for proper size, recommendations for models or brands... I /don't/
 want one with an alarm, what a hassle and in this day and age vehicle
 alarms are ignored almost as often as they garner attention.

 Thanks for anything you folks can muster up!

 Kurt

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Birth of the Nighhawk S

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
Hi Paul, Just visited the new web site. Cudos.
As a former District Manager for the Honda motorcycle division I'd
like to add some little known info on the birth of the Nighthawk S.
One of our east coast Area Managers was Mike Kehne. (Hope I spelled
that right) Prior to his joining Honda he worked at a shop in Maryland
I think it wasHe and fellow sales folk were adding the bits such
as bikini fairing to std 750s and having good sales numbers with them.
As luck would have it, Japanese engineers were traveling the area and
visited the shop. They liked what they saw and consulted w/ Mike over
the next few months to come up with a new bike. The Nighthawk S. So
the S was Born in the USA!. Mike is no longer with us, but his
inovation and vision helped create on of the all time greats. He too
was an all time great.
Hope I did justice to this Mike. Double G

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Tires and Wear

2012-05-08 Thread Dennis
Thanks, Jay.   No wobbles yet in spite of the front Dunlop tire getting
worn.   But, I'll watch for this.

 

Dennis

Christchurch, NZ

 

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jaybird248
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:51 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Tires and Wear

 

I had a set of Avon AM-26 Roadriders on my 92 NH750.  At about 14K miles, I
developed a 45-55 MPH vibration. First thought was to replace the front
wheel bearings but that did no good.  The tech suggested the tires might be
worn but they still showed lots of tread. I replaced them anyway with
Bridgestone BT-45s.  Problem solved.  

Lesson learned: Even if tires still show tread, they may be worn out
internally. I don't know if this is an issue limited to Avons, but I thought
I'd let you guys know.

Jay S
92 NH750 (119K miles)
South Florida

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Dennis
Oh oh, watch out folks . Graham's going into acquisition mode (smile).

 

Dennis

Christchurch, NZ

 

From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Rogers
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:21 AM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

 

Paul, can you tell from the graphs who owns Nighthawks and who doesn't and
who has them locked up at night and who doesn't?  Graham

 

On May 8, 2012, at 7:06 AM, mike21...@aol.com wrote:





 

Paul,
That's some awesome info.
Does it tell you what version of windows they are using?
Mike... A fellow geek.

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net
To: Nighthawk Lovers nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 12:14 am
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

Check out what happened when the new website design went live tonight... 

Capture.PNG

 

The action before today was a few of you from Nighthawk Lovers popping over
and checking things out. Then, earlier this evening the domain name started
forwarding traffic to the new site. It's been fun to see people get on from
all over the world.

 

Capture2.PNG

And here are a couple other stats my fellow geeks will enjoy:

 

stats1.png stats2.png




  http://www.ccontario.com/images/Paul2.png 

Paul LeBoutillier
http://www.ccontario.com/images/google-plus-logo%28small%29.jpg 

  http://www.hondanighthawks.net/banner-smaller.jpg 

www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/ 





On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

http://hondanighthawks.net/ 



  http://www.ccontario.com/images/Paul2.png 

Paul LeBoutillier
http://www.ccontario.com/images/google-plus-logo%28small%29.jpg 

  http://www.hondanighthawks.net/banner-smaller.jpg 

www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/ 

 

 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Javier Garcia
LOL! acquisition mode, love it!

Javier.

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dennis den...@samadhisoft.com wrote:

 Oh oh, watch out folks … Graham’s going into acquisition mode (smile).

 ** **

 Dennis

 Christchurch, NZ

 ** **

 *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Graham Rogers
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:21 AM
 *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE
 already!!!

 ** **

 Paul, can you tell from the graphs who owns Nighthawks and who doesn't and
 who has them locked up at night and who doesn't?  Graham

 ** **

 On May 8, 2012, at 7:06 AM, mike21...@aol.com wrote:



 

 ** **

 Paul,
 That's some awesome info.
 Does it tell you what version of windows they are using?
 Mike... A fellow geek.

 ** **

 ** **

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net
 To: Nighthawk Lovers nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 12:14 am
 Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!**
 **

 *Check out what happened when the new website design went live tonight...*
 

 *Capture.PNG*

 ** **

 *The action before today was a few of you from Nighthawk Lovers popping
 over and checking things out. Then, earlier this evening the domain name
 started forwarding traffic to the new site. It's been fun to see people get
 on from all over the world.*

 ** **

 *Capture2.PNG*

 *And here are a couple other stats my fellow geeks will enjoy:*

 ** **

 *stats1.png stats2.png*

 *
 *

 

 Paul LeBoutillier 

 **

 *www.hondanighthawks.net*



 

 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

 http://hondanighthawks.net/ *
 *
 

 

 Paul LeBoutillier 

 **

 *www.hondanighthawks.net*

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB250 Nighthawk 70 mile Daily Highway Commute -- Bad?

2012-05-08 Thread Joey Kelley
Double G and all,
 At the risk of sounding like a 'know it all' - the 450
Nighthawk is no treat on the highway for extended periods - to
maintain 70 MPH you have to run the bike at almost 5,000 RPM which
dramatically reduces the fuel economy, not to mention adding in a
considerable amount of highway buzz.
 I also found that the 450 didn't accelerate particularly well
at those speeds - but mine doesn't have stock carbs, it has the carbs
from a 400. The accelerator pump might be the difference there.
 IMHO - find a nice small 500-800 cc bike with at least four
cylinders - they provide better performance on the top end.
 -Joey

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The bike is well engineered. (I'm a former Honda tech.)..however heat
 build up can be a problem wide open for an extended time. Back off now
 and then, maybe find one rest stop along the way. Consider getting a
 bigger bike such as a 450 Rebel , 450 nighthawk, CM400, 600 shadow,
 etc. Many of these older bikes do not have a lot of miles and can be
 picked up for reasonable money. If it takes a while to find a bigger
 bike or trade up, be sure to keep an eye on miles and oil change. The
 oil change is the best insurance against engine wear and damage. Be
 sure to service your air cleaner. Keep your senses tuned to the power
 delivery while you are making your ride, if you sense a drop off or
 sluggishness, you need to pull over and let er cool down. Better fuel
 is better. Good luck.

 On May 8, 1:06 pm, BoonesDaddy brandonbogar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm looking for some input from anyone with long term experience with
 the Nighthawk 250. I have a 2008 nighthawk that I bought with 3k miles
 from a dealer. Since August 2011, I have put 8k miles on it with my
 daily 50 mile commute, 20 miles of which is highway. So far this
 little bike has held up great and saved my a ton of money on gas
 versus my '97 Dodge Durango V8. However, I was just offered a better
 teaching job that will require 72 miles on the freeway. It will be a
 longer (but faster) commute for me with no lights, but I am worried
 that I am going to prematurely destroy my little 250 by running it @
 70mph for 72 miles a day.

 So my questions are these:

 1. Can my Nighthawk hold up in the long term for this commute?

 2. If not, any suggestions on a bigger bike with great fuel economy?

 I will have to go through a dealer if I need to get a new bike,
 because I don't have any cash on hand, so older used bikes are
 probably not an option. I really want to hang on to this little bike
 as it has treated my well, but if I'm going to destroy it, I will just
 have to trade it in. Thanks for your input.

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

2012-05-08 Thread xXMr.CrossXx
The clutch appears to be working fine... I don't know, I ran out my
battery trying to get it to work so I need to get that charged up and
I'll go from there.

On May 8, 9:12 am, paul annen greenzer...@gmail.com wrote:
 is your clutch disengaging fully? mabey your cable has streched over the
 years.  i have a slow leak in my hydro clutch in the goldwing, and when it
 gets VERY low the same thing happens







 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:
  That has been my thought. We talked about the side stand switch before.
  Page
  296 Clymer. It says the test for continuity in down position is only
  between
  the yellow/black and --grn.  When the stand is up there is continuity
  between the grn/white -- and grn.  The bypass would then be to connect the
  two outside posts.
  Ron

  -Original Message-
  From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pastor Ron
  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:23 AM
  To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

  I don't understand why he put an extra kill switch on the handle bars? Or
  where the wires are running.

  I am wondering about the previous wiring tie in. Could it be that the kill
  switch is grounding out on the handle bars or the odometer is grounding out
  by connecting to the frame?

  Do all your indicator lights work properly before you put it into gear that
  is, the neutral light, side stand light, and high beam indicator work? And
  more importantly do they all stay on or work except the neutral when you
  put
  it in gear and it cuts off?

  If one of your indicator lights don't work except neutral you've narrowed
  down the problem to that loop. If your high beam, turn signals, or horn
  don't work after it shuts off your problem is a ground there.  You can't
  run
  them to long with the engine off or your battery will go dead.

  Ron

  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of xXMr.CrossXx
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:49 PM
  To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
  Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: My Bike Won't Go into First

  My bike is rigged to a toggle switch under the handle bars. It's kinda
  ratty, but I love it that way. The power to the digital odometer the
  previous owner had on it remained on. It just kills the engine. The
  fuse box appeared to have no blown fuses. The next step is to take the
  tank off or get my hands on a shop manual (I only have the owners
  manual) and try and identify the possibilities and work backwards from
  there...If anyone knows any other things that could be causing my bike
  to shut off when I put it into gear let me know.
  Thanks Ya'll.

  On May 7, 8:17 pm, surfswab surfs...@gmail.com wrote:
   Did you maybe inadvertently turn the kill switch to off?  Is the
   battery up to snuff?  Any blown fuses?  A ground wire loose?

   Any one of those could cause the issue.

   On May 7, 10:59 pm, xXMr.CrossXx jarr...@mugsyclicks.com wrote:

I just got a used 1991 Honda NightHawk750 and I love it. Thing is,
when I got on my bike after work today to ride home I started the
engine in neutral and let it warm up. When it was warm I shifted it
into first gear and my bike completely shut off. I tried again and
again with the same result. I tried shifting it into 2nd and bump
starting it...Nothing. I had my buddy come by and check the
electronics on the clutch and the kickstand sensors and they seemed to
be operating properly. I'm at a loss and I really want to get back on
my bike.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Joey Kelley
No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
hey Paul, have you seen this site before? thought it could be of use for 
the new site?   http://stsamuel.tripod.com/nhhistory.html 

On Monday, May 7, 2012 10:30:04 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote:

 http://hondanighthawks.net/ *
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Netting ?

2012-05-08 Thread Hawaii Sean
In eBay motors search for motorcycle cargo net  280 results.  That's
where I bought mine.

Aloha Sean

On May 7, 11:50 am, Fred frdzel...@yahoo.com wrote:
    I just bought a large gym bag to fasten on the back of my Nighthawk
 450.  I read somewhere?  that they make a kind of netting ( or something
 like that )  to fasten down things like the gym bag. When I put it behind
 me on the seat. I don't know where I saw it and I can't find it again.
   Can someone help me find this netting or something that I can use to
 fasten the bag to the bike.?   thank you very much for your
 help.                       Fred

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Paul LeBoutillier
Thanks! I added that link the 700S page. :)

Paul

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 hey Paul, have you seen this site before? thought it could be of use for
 the new site?  http://stsamuel.tripod.com/nhhistory.html







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 http://hondanighthawks.net/*
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Paul LeBoutillier
On May 8, 5:06 am, mike21...@aol.com wrote:
 Paul,
 That's some awesome info.
 Does it tell you what version of windows they are using?
 Mike... A fellow geek.


I haven't found anything that gets any more detailed than just OS. No
version numbers that I'm aware of.

Paul


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Kyle Munz
Here's some more pics and the wikipedia article.
Any one else notice that these are essentially CB750SC with the front forks
of the 650?
http://www.bikepics.com/members/clubcbx/89cbx750/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750

-Kyle


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want one too. We should send an emissary to go and buy a bunch of those
 and bring them to the US.

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those. Pick
 me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Javier Garcia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those. Pick
 me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

2012-05-08 Thread Dennis
I just read all the information over on the nhhistory.html site and it was
some interesting stuff.

 

Dennis

Christchurch, NZ

 

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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Wow!! The new website is LIVE already!!!

 

hey Paul, have you seen this site before? thought it could be of use for the
new site?   http://stsamuel.tripod.com/nhhistory.html 

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http://hondanighthawks.net/ 



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  http://www.hondanighthawks.net/banner-smaller.jpg 

www.hondanighthawks.net http://www.hondanighthawks.net/ 

 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Graham Rogers
Javier,  I have a friend who is looking for a R,W  Blue CBR1000.  Isn't that 
what you have?  And so as I'm not hijacking this thread I will place an 
additional order for the Malayan Nighthawk,
Graham


On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I want one too. We should send an emissary to go and buy a bunch of those and 
 bring them to the US.
 
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great 
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a 
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those. Pick me 
 up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!
 
 -Kyle 
 
 
 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey
 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Bryan Gibson
We will take this into consideration when we go to work on it.  The 85 
Nighthawk 650 is not chain driven, so I don't have any chain to worry about 
adjusting.  We didn't replace shoes as they were recently replaced by the 
previous owner.  I will check the placement of the brake arm and recheck 
all of the springs again.  Cyclepedia's tech support recommended adjusting 
the brake pedal and checking the brake pedal free play.  That seems like 
more of a I have no idea type of answer (from Cyclepedia) to me but it's 
worth a shot.  Thanks for your reply and suggestions!

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:37:03 PM UTC-5, Double G wrote:

 The angle is important. There should be an alignment arrow on the 
 lever. the shaft does not have splines where the gap in the lever 
 slides on. It is possible to get it on wrong with some inattention and 
 a spread out clamp, but I think you'd notice. Be sure the axle is 
 adjusted square or exactly the same on both sides w/ the proper 
 slack in the chain. I like to adjust the chain slack with a riders 
 weight actually on the bike, but that's me. Then be sure the round 
 pivot in the small lever the rod rides in is not cocked, check the rod 
 on the lever end, be sure the spring is on right, take the lever off 
 and clean up the pivot and inside the lever, when it dropped down when 
 free, it may have picked up enough contaminant to gum up the works. I 
 like to lube such pivots w/ moly or waterproof marine grease. And 
 don't forget the problem could be in the backing plate where the brake 
 cam goes thru the backing plate. I'd hope this was cleaned and lubed 
 when shoes went in, but you knowtake a good look there. 

 On May 8, 11:16 am, Bryan Gibson bgibso...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Yes, that spring is there and it's fine.  Not sure how diligent we were 
  about lining anything up when replacing the brake arm.  How much affect 
  would that have if they WEREN'T aligned? 
  
  Bryan 
  
  
  
  On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:32:05 AM UTC-5, Allen wrote: 
  
   There should be a return spring on the lever near the pivot. 
   Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 
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   *Date: *Tue, 8 May 2012 07:21:04 -0700 (PDT) 
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   *Subject: *[Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning... 
  
   I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires 
 recently 
   and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I 
 just 
   happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the 
 brake 
   pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it 
 manually). 
   I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was 
   working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that 
   removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm 
   skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is 
 there 
   something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was 
 also 
   left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to 
 remove 
   the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other 
 modification 
   was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the 
 hub 
   required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly. 
  Any 
   knowledge of this problem? 
  
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do the
cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
version one at?

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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 wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Kyle Munz
Those look shaft driven to me. I also found this nice cutaway illustration
of a 84 750 engine. I might have to get that printed out.
http://world.honda.com/mechanical-illustration/large/24.html

-Kyle


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 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do the
 cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


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  wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Javier Garcia
Graham,

I think so. Mine is in fact cbr1000f, a.k.a Hurricane. it was made until
1996. I have seen several on CL in this area every once in a while, and
some quite cheap, although I have not seen a RWB since I bought mine. He
could also try in cbrforum.com, there is a section for the Hurricanes, and
I think they a for sale area.

Javier.

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 Javier,  I have a friend who is looking for a R,W  Blue CBR1000.  Isn't
 that what you have?  And so as I'm not hijacking this thread I will place
 an additional order for the Malayan Nighthawk,
 Graham


 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I want one too. We should send an emissary to go and buy a bunch of those
 and bring them to the US.

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those. Pick
 me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


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 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
the shaftie version is the cb750sc horizon and the canadian model. humm...
are some of the cbx's chain and shaft?

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do the
 cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
i just sent this to paul.   http://stsamuel.tripod.com/nhhistory.html

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Graham,

 I think so. Mine is in fact cbr1000f, a.k.a Hurricane. it was made until
 1996. I have seen several on CL in this area every once in a while, and
 some quite cheap, although I have not seen a RWB since I bought mine. He
 could also try in cbrforum.com, there is a section for the Hurricanes,
 and I think they a for sale area.

 Javier.


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote:

 Javier,  I have a friend who is looking for a R,W  Blue CBR1000.  Isn't
 that what you have?  And so as I'm not hijacking this thread I will place
 an additional order for the Malayan Nighthawk,
 Graham


 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

 I want one too. We should send an emissary to go and buy a bunch of those
 and bring them to the US.

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for Great
 Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another image of a
 very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
ok, so how many do i need to get?  i can fly there, put a hitch on one and
trailer the rest back?

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote:

 Graham wants shaft drive too ...

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do the
 cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
ahh, the cbx750f is chain! sc is shaft

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok, so how many do i need to get?  i can fly there, put a hitch on one and
 trailer the rest back?


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.comwrote:

 Graham wants shaft drive too ...

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do the
 cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike.
 http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.comwrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Rear brake pedal not returning...

2012-05-08 Thread Double G
When you say Brake arm are you referriing to the strut type bar that
simply keeps the backing plate from rotating? If you did not remove
the arm that operates the internal cam that spreads the shoes, then
none of that is the culprit. Look underneath and be sure there is no
binding or conflict of the rod with a hose or other component.
On May 8, 4:13 pm, Bryan Gibson bgibso...@gmail.com wrote:
 We will take this into consideration when we go to work on it.  The 85
 Nighthawk 650 is not chain driven, so I don't have any chain to worry about
 adjusting.  We didn't replace shoes as they were recently replaced by the
 previous owner.  I will check the placement of the brake arm and recheck
 all of the springs again.  Cyclepedia's tech support recommended adjusting
 the brake pedal and checking the brake pedal free play.  That seems like
 more of a I have no idea type of answer (from Cyclepedia) to me but it's
 worth a shot.  Thanks for your reply and suggestions!



 On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:37:03 PM UTC-5, Double G wrote:

  The angle is important. There should be an alignment arrow on the
  lever. the shaft does not have splines where the gap in the lever
  slides on. It is possible to get it on wrong with some inattention and
  a spread out clamp, but I think you'd notice. Be sure the axle is
  adjusted square or exactly the same on both sides w/ the proper
  slack in the chain. I like to adjust the chain slack with a riders
  weight actually on the bike, but that's me. Then be sure the round
  pivot in the small lever the rod rides in is not cocked, check the rod
  on the lever end, be sure the spring is on right, take the lever off
  and clean up the pivot and inside the lever, when it dropped down when
  free, it may have picked up enough contaminant to gum up the works. I
  like to lube such pivots w/ moly or waterproof marine grease. And
  don't forget the problem could be in the backing plate where the brake
  cam goes thru the backing plate. I'd hope this was cleaned and lubed
  when shoes went in, but you knowtake a good look there.

  On May 8, 11:16 am, Bryan Gibson bgibso...@gmail.com wrote:
   Yes, that spring is there and it's fine.  Not sure how diligent we were
   about lining anything up when replacing the brake arm.  How much affect
   would that have if they WEREN'T aligned?

   Bryan

   On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:32:05 AM UTC-5, Allen wrote:

There should be a return spring on the lever near the pivot.
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*Subject: *[Nighthawk Lovers] Rear brake pedal not returning...

I had to replace the valve stems on both the front and rear tires
  recently
and after reassembling the bike, everything seemed to be in order.  I
  just
happened to check the back brake and after applying pressure, the
  brake
pedal would not return to the up position (other than doing it
  manually).
I use the back brake without the front often, so I am confident it was
working 100% before we removed the tire.  My buddy seems to think that
removing and lubricating the pedal shaft will fix the problem, but I'm
skeptical as this was working smoothly beforehand as I mentioned.  Is
  there
something we have forgotten to adjust?  The rear brake adjustment was
  also
left as-is (other than being removed from the brake hub in order to
  remove
the wheel) and the spring(s) are both functional.  Only other
  modification
was that the tension clamp(?) for the brake pedal adjustment on the
  hub
required a new bolt because the old one was not threading properly.
   Any
knowledge of this problem?

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tires and wear

2012-05-08 Thread Hawaii Sean
Dennis,

I had the exact same experience.  In Hawaii we have a yearly safety
check on all vehicles (Cars, Boats and Motorcycles), if you don't
have a current one you cannot register your vehicle.  I took mine in
and was told that I have to replace both of my tires.  I have about
18k on the front and 16k on the back.  According to my mechanic I'm
getting great wear on my tires.  They're the stock that Honda
recommends.

Sean

On May 8, 7:25 am, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 14K is pretty darned good for a bike like the 700 that engourages
 spirited riding. You must be easy on the first gear eh? Do you ride
 one bike a certain road and the other another? One to work and another
 on the twisties? remember most secondary roads have a crown to shed
 rain ( at least here in the staes) and that causes uneven wear on one
 side of the tireand as another member said tire pressure is all so
 important. No two brands are exactly alike compound tocompound, so I'd
 just chaulk it up to that. Yes I'm also sure tread pattern can be an
 element as well.

 On May 7, 8:59 pm, Dennis den...@samadhisoft.com wrote:







  I've got two CB700SC's; one's a '85 and the other's a '86 - both red/black.

  I got the '85 in 2007 and I immediately put a set of new Avons onto it and I
  got the '86 in 2009 and I immediately put a set of new Dunlops onto it.

  I bought both of these bikes with about 10,000 miles on them and they both
  have about 24,000 now.   So, they've each gone approximately 14,000 since
  their tires were new.

  Today, when I ran the '86 with the Dunlops though the New Zealand Warrant of
  Fitness tests (we have to do this every six months here in new Zealand) I
  was amazed to find out that my front Dunlop has worn down sufficiently that
  he said he'd almost failed me and for sure I'd have to replace if before I
  came in again in six months.

  Originally, I thought my Avons were the softer tire (softer equals better
  grip through curves but they wear out sooner is the way I think it goes) so
  I'd expected that the Avons would be the ones I'd have to replace first.
  But, it seems like the reverse is happening here.

  I looked at the patterns on my tires (see the photos) and I can see the
  Dunlop has a line right down the center whereas the Avon has the lines in a
  wave pattern with breaks.   Not sure if that means much.

  So, is 14,000 miles a reasonable mileage for needing to do a replacement?
  And, did I have it backwards about the Avons being the softer tire?   And,
  what do folks think about Avons verse Dunlops in general?   Or are you keen
  on some other tire brand that you think would be well suited for a 700SC?

  Dennis Gallagher

  Christchurch, New Zealand

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread nighthawkin
well i found a cb750sc horizon for sale.  dont think i can afford it
though?   http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8800550B30090328006/

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 ahh, the cbx750f is chain! sc is shaft


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok, so how many do i need to get?  i can fly there, put a hitch on one
 and trailer the rest back?


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Graham wants shaft drive too ...

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do
 the cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike.
 http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.comwrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com
 wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Kyle Munz
It's painted black, but that's the 650 front end again, not the same as the
one used on the US CB700SC. That also look like an 18 front wheel too.

-Kyle


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:26 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 well i found a cb750sc horizon for sale.  dont think i can afford it
 though?   http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8800550B30090328006/


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

 ahh, the cbx750f is chain! sc is shaft


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.comwrote:

 ok, so how many do i need to get?  i can fly there, put a hitch on one
 and trailer the rest back?


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Graham wants shaft drive too ...

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do
 the cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie
 version one at?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers 
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Graham will take one 

 On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:

 OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay for
 Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another
 image of a very similar bike.
 http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
 Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of those.
 Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

 -Kyle


 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.comwrote:

 No idea - but I want one too!
-Joey

 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com
 wrote:
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

2012-05-08 Thread ewun
I use the Kryptonite Series 4 lock and it works fine on my stock 2002
750NH (front disk brake rotor).  But, then I live in a metropolitan
area and people touch anything that doesn't even 'look' secure.

http://www.amazon.com/Kryptonite-Series-4-Disc-Orange/dp/B0030M4DAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1336512917sr=8-1

Eric

On May 8, 10:42 am, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just be sure to use a reminder loop with the lock so you don't try
 to ride off with the lock on. It may come with the lock, but it is as
 simple as a piece of thin rope that runs from the lock to your handle
 bar grip to remind you. Nothing like replacing a bent disk when you
 don't have to.

 On May 7, 10:58 pm, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:







  Just as the title says. I'm interested in picking up a disc lock at some
  point during the summer; in the fall I go back to working a couple nights,
  and our area isn't the best for theft. While I've been lucky so far, and I
  park right in view of a security camera, I like doubling up my caution with
  my ride.

  Looking for proper size, recommendations for models or brands... I /don't/
  want one with an alarm, what a hassle and in this day and age vehicle
  alarms are ignored almost as often as they garner attention.

  Thanks for anything you folks can muster up!

  Kurt

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

2012-05-08 Thread ewun
I use a Kryptonite Series 4 disk lock on my 2002 750NH (front disk
rotor) and it works fine.  But then, I live/work in a metropolitan
area and people touch (almost) anything that doesn't even look
secured.

+1 on the reminder leash.

Eric

On May 7, 7:58 pm, Kurt Nolte vturbine.po...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just as the title says. I'm interested in picking up a disc lock at some
 point during the summer; in the fall I go back to working a couple nights,
 and our area isn't the best for theft. While I've been lucky so far, and I
 park right in view of a security camera, I like doubling up my caution with
 my ride.

 Looking for proper size, recommendations for models or brands... I /don't/
 want one with an alarm, what a hassle and in this day and age vehicle
 alarms are ignored almost as often as they garner attention.

 Thanks for anything you folks can muster up!

 Kurt

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tires and wear

2012-05-08 Thread Allen Thomas
Doesn't that make the bike steer heavy.
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Tires and wear

I run supermoto, on the track I'm 22-24 PSI on DOT tires
(Contimotion / Pirelli Sport Demon). They dont last very long but the
difference in traction is just incredible. The front end used to
chatter and hop when I was at 28 PSI.

Look on the tire for its rated max PSI, and stick to a few PSI below
that for normal street riding. Don't ever exceed max!!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Allen Thomas
700S/wing/cop bike.. 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Parts for my '91 NightHawk750

2012-05-08 Thread J-Roc


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Iiq_871zKnE/T6mfvwDdnXI/AAU/bWh9Mxq3DCs/s1600/NightHawk.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-piBltlKJGsE/T6mfo-UUzpI/AAM/eGJdMLLyVbI/s1600/cowl+flick.png
I am looking for a few parts to replace on my Bike. I want new driving 
pegs, a new cowl? as pictured above mine is cracked and missing a piece 
from someone dropping it. Anything else that might be cool to spice up the 
look, like a cool rear fender, license plate holder etc. Let me know OR if 
you know of a cool place to get parts for my honda... Thanks Ya'll!

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk Lovers Map

2012-05-08 Thread J-Roc
I can't seem to get the website to work. It read's that the blog does not 
exist...help bc I would love to share my baby on your awesome site.
J from Marin, California

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:16:53 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:

 *With all the talk about Nighthawk Lovers members connecting I thought I 
 would remind everyone that we have a webpage where our members can place 
 themselves on the map and show where they're from.*
 *
 *
 *Go to 
 **http://www.hondanighthawks.net/map.html*http://www.hondanighthawks.net/map.html
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB250 Nighthawk 70 mile Daily Highway Commute -- Bad?

2012-05-08 Thread Hawaii Sean
I was just running this very topic through my head this morning.  I
have a 12 mile commute that only has about 3 miles of highway.
However, I'm now having to commute for 30 miles each way and 20 of it
is on the Highway - this will be off and on for the next couple of
months.  As I was riding in today we had our typical Hawaiian trade
winds - the wind is very strong here.  As I was going I was fighting
the wind both ways on my 750 and wishing I had my ST1100 on Oahu with
me.  The bigger bike is more stable and will give you the power you
need to be comfortable and safe.  If you can find an ST or Concours
you won't have to go to the gas station as often.

To sound like a know it all trade up to a bigger bike.  You'll be much
happier and with that much highway time you'll be much more rested
after the rides.  Nothing against the NH250 - great bike for city a
little amounts of high way.  I think you'll be shocked at how much
nicer a bigger bike will be to ride.

Sean

On May 8, 8:44 am, Joey Kelley sandp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Double G and all,
          At the risk of sounding like a 'know it all' - the 450
 Nighthawk is no treat on the highway for extended periods - to
 maintain 70 MPH you have to run the bike at almost 5,000 RPM which
 dramatically reduces the fuel economy, not to mention adding in a
 considerable amount of highway buzz.
          I also found that the 450 didn't accelerate particularly well
 at those speeds - but mine doesn't have stock carbs, it has the carbs
 from a 400. The accelerator pump might be the difference there.
          IMHO - find a nice small 500-800 cc bike with at least four
 cylinders - they provide better performance on the top end.
          -Joey









 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:
  The bike is well engineered. (I'm a former Honda tech.)..however heat
  build up can be a problem wide open for an extended time. Back off now
  and then, maybe find one rest stop along the way. Consider getting a
  bigger bike such as a 450 Rebel , 450 nighthawk, CM400, 600 shadow,
  etc. Many of these older bikes do not have a lot of miles and can be
  picked up for reasonable money. If it takes a while to find a bigger
  bike or trade up, be sure to keep an eye on miles and oil change. The
  oil change is the best insurance against engine wear and damage. Be
  sure to service your air cleaner. Keep your senses tuned to the power
  delivery while you are making your ride, if you sense a drop off or
  sluggishness, you need to pull over and let er cool down. Better fuel
  is better. Good luck.

  On May 8, 1:06 pm, BoonesDaddy brandonbogar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,

  I'm looking for some input from anyone with long term experience with
  the Nighthawk 250. I have a 2008 nighthawk that I bought with 3k miles
  from a dealer. Since August 2011, I have put 8k miles on it with my
  daily 50 mile commute, 20 miles of which is highway. So far this
  little bike has held up great and saved my a ton of money on gas
  versus my '97 Dodge Durango V8. However, I was just offered a better
  teaching job that will require 72 miles on the freeway. It will be a
  longer (but faster) commute for me with no lights, but I am worried
  that I am going to prematurely destroy my little 250 by running it @
  70mph for 72 miles a day.

  So my questions are these:

  1. Can my Nighthawk hold up in the long term for this commute?

  2. If not, any suggestions on a bigger bike with great fuel economy?

  I will have to go through a dealer if I need to get a new bike,
  because I don't have any cash on hand, so older used bikes are
  probably not an option. I really want to hang on to this little bike
  as it has treated my well, but if I'm going to destroy it, I will just
  have to trade it in. Thanks for your input.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk Lovers Map

2012-05-08 Thread Paul
*Hey J-Roc, thanks for reminding me!! With the website refit I completely
forgot about the map.*
*
*
*You can get to the Nighthawk Lovers map by clicking
herehttp://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200503637105445875543.000453552d6648c15b67fmsa=0ll=22.09268,-97.000866spn=134.128374,346.289063
.*
*
*
*But if you have a picture and story you want to add to the website, you
will want to send that to me personally.*
*
*
*Paul*
*
**
 Paul LeBoutillier
*
*
*
*www.hondanighthawks.net*



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM, J-Roc jarr...@mugsyclicks.com wrote:

 I can't seem to get the website to work. It read's that the blog does not
 exist...help bc I would love to share my baby on your awesome site.
 J from Marin, California


 On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:16:53 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:

 *With all the talk about Nighthawk Lovers members connecting I thought I
 would remind everyone that we have a webpage where our members can place
 themselves on the map and show where they're from.*
 *
 *
 *Go to 
 **http://www.hondanighthawks.net/map.html*http://www.hondanighthawks.net/map.html
 *
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[Nighthawk Lovers] New Address to Nighthawk Lovers Map

2012-05-08 Thread Paul
*Did you know Nighthawk Lovers has over 1,100 members from all over the
world???*
*
*
*Let know know where you are from. Click
herehttp://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200503637105445875543.000453552d6648c15b67fmsa=0ll=65.512963,-97.734375spn=93.0277,346.289063and
place your marker and name on the map. (You need to have a Google
account to add to the map.) There are instruction once you get there.*
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Birth of the Nighhawk S

2012-05-08 Thread Paul LeBoutillier
Wow! Thanks for that info Mike. How cool to have been on the inside
for something like that!!

So what are you riding these days?

Paul


On May 8, 11:54 am, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Paul, Just visited the new web site. Cudos.
 As a former District Manager for the Honda motorcycle division I'd
 like to add some little known info on the birth of the Nighthawk S.
 One of our east coast Area Managers was Mike Kehne. (Hope I spelled
 that right) Prior to his joining Honda he worked at a shop in Maryland
 I think it wasHe and fellow sales folk were adding the bits such
 as bikini fairing to std 750s and having good sales numbers with them.
 As luck would have it, Japanese engineers were traveling the area and
 visited the shop. They liked what they saw and consulted w/ Mike over
 the next few months to come up with a new bike. The Nighthawk S. So
 the S was Born in the USA!. Mike is no longer with us, but his
 inovation and vision helped create on of the all time greats. He too
 was an all time great.
 Hope I did justice to this Mike. Double G

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

2012-05-08 Thread Hanghank
I guess you don’t have enough yen for it

From: nighthawkin 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:26 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] where can i buy one of these !!!

well i found a cb750sc horizon for sale.  dont think i can afford it though?   
http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8800550B30090328006/ 


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

  ahh, the cbx750f is chain! sc is shaft 



  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, nighthawkin gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:

ok, so how many do i need to get?  i can fly there, put a hitch on one and 
trailer the rest back? 



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Graham Rogers grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Graham wants shaft drive too ...  

  On May 8, 2012, at 4:14 PM, nighthawkin wrote:


what a minute, time out, hold the phone, sorry cant do it!  i cant do 
the cbx chain drive?  its gotta be the shaftie version!  wheres the shaftie 
version one at?


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Javier Garcia jajgar...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBX750 



  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Graham Rogers 
grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com wrote:

Graham will take one   

On May 8, 2012, at 4:02 PM, nighthawkin wrote:


  OK!  I'm on my way!  Who else wants one?


  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kyle Munz kyle...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Google translate tells me the sign in the background is Malay 
for Great Rebates. So I did a search for CBX 750 Malay and found another 
image of a very similar bike. http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/1040848/
Answer to your question, Malaysia is where you can get one of 
those. Pick me up one too while you're there, I wanna play CHiPs!

-Kyle 




On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Joey Kelley 
sandp...@gmail.com wrote:

  No idea - but I want one too!
 -Joey


  On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, nighthawkin 
gswannab...@gmail.com wrote:
   http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/pau_maharani/1-1.jpg
  
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Birth of the Nighhawk S

2012-05-08 Thread J-Roc
Awesome story! Thanks. 

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:54:00 AM UTC-7, Double G wrote:

 Hi Paul, Just visited the new web site. Cudos. 
 As a former District Manager for the Honda motorcycle division I'd 
 like to add some little known info on the birth of the Nighthawk S. 
 One of our east coast Area Managers was Mike Kehne. (Hope I spelled 
 that right) Prior to his joining Honda he worked at a shop in Maryland 
 I think it wasHe and fellow sales folk were adding the bits such 
 as bikini fairing to std 750s and having good sales numbers with them. 
 As luck would have it, Japanese engineers were traveling the area and 
 visited the shop. They liked what they saw and consulted w/ Mike over 
 the next few months to come up with a new bike. The Nighthawk S. So 
 the S was Born in the USA!. Mike is no longer with us, but his 
 inovation and vision helped create on of the all time greats. He too 
 was an all time great. 
 Hope I did justice to this Mike. Double G

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Any 750 owners using a disc lock?

2012-05-08 Thread J-Roc
I have a post market rotor on my front disc brake and put a lock on it. 
It's pretty generic and cost me about $10 at a store closing sale in SF.  I 
would recommend going by a shop with your bike, usually sales people will 
let you go make sure it fits your bike. Mine can fit in my fist and it's 
made by a company that does bicycle D locks...I can't recall the name off 
the top of my head. Just make sure that you get a bright cord that goes 
from your lock to your handle bars so you have a reminder that the lock is 
on the break. Trying to ride down the street with a front disc lock on your 
bike poses a few problems...lol
-Jarreau

On Monday, May 7, 2012 7:58:41 PM UTC-7, Kurt Nolte wrote:

 Just as the title says. I'm interested in picking up a disc lock at some 
 point during the summer; in the fall I go back to working a couple nights, 
 and our area isn't the best for theft. While I've been lucky so far, and I 
 park right in view of a security camera, I like doubling up my caution with 
 my ride. 

 Looking for proper size, recommendations for models or brands... I /don't/ 
 want one with an alarm, what a hassle and in this day and age vehicle 
 alarms are ignored almost as often as they garner attention. 

 Thanks for anything you folks can muster up!

 Kurt


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[Nighthawk Lovers] Thanks for the help.

2012-05-08 Thread Mike Erickson
I found a pair of handlebars to fit my 84 Nighthwak 650 (thanks to the
dimensions provided by some of you).  I have been
working on it for about a month now and took it out for my first ride
on Sunday!   It was great until the rain came in.   Now that it is
up and running (and safe on the road) it is now time to turn it over to
my wife as she wants to start riding.  Looks like the second bike I
just got (A 2002 1800 VTX) will just have to suffice. Here are some
pictures of my two bikes.


https://picasaweb.google.com/106011619016468537634/MyMotorcycles?authuser=0feat=directlink

Thanks for your help!
Rafone (from Aurora, IL)

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Roller w/title

2012-05-08 Thread Mr. Knight
What year(s)?

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Double G gary_galle...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just scored a nice roller w/ title, so the search is over. Thanks to
 all who posted leads, tips etc.
 I'll be parting out 3 bikes soon, Let me know what you are looking
 for.
 Thanks
 Double G

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Thanks for the help.

2012-05-08 Thread Allen Thomas
How do you like the VTX? That's a whole lot of bike.
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

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Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 21:29:47 
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
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Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Thanks for the help.

I found a pair of handlebars to fit my 84 Nighthwak 650 (thanks to the
dimensions provided by some of you).  I have been
working on it for about a month now and took it out for my first ride
on Sunday!   It was great until the rain came in.   Now that it is
up and running (and safe on the road) it is now time to turn it over to
my wife as she wants to start riding.  Looks like the second bike I
just got (A 2002 1800 VTX) will just have to suffice. Here are some
pictures of my two bikes.


https://picasaweb.google.com/106011619016468537634/MyMotorcycles?authuser=0feat=directlink

Thanks for your help!
Rafone (from Aurora, IL)

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] I FOUND IT!!

2012-05-08 Thread Pastor Ron
I always fear that a short will be a little spot on the underside of a wire
that I can not find. That one seems a little more obvious. Great job! And
what a relief. 

 

I got the brake fluid changed on the NH tonight. They feel solid.  The
hardest part was waiting for the pump to come and then getting it to seal
tightly.  It was easy enough. Tomorrow night the ST. which has three lines
to bleed and if time permits a clutch. 

 

Also on the map I have two browsers and have not be able to add myself.  It
keeps telling me my browser does not accept cookies.  But I have verified
that it is. So I am kinds lost on that project. 

 

Ron

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 7:38 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I FOUND IT!!

 

Well, there's your problem lady.

-Kyle 



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Paul p...@hondanighthawks.net wrote:

I've been dealing with an intermittent short that continues to blow the fuse
controlling my turn signals, brake light and other misc things. Well, I
finally started tearing into the problem, and as luck would have it, on the
first side that I started taking apart I found the culprit. One of the hot
wires leading to the right, rear signal was shredded and some strands of the
wire were exposed. See pic below:

 

Inline image 1

 

I tucked my smart phone under the fender and snapped this surprisingly
detailed shot of the bared wire (black) with a strand sticking out just
waiting to short out on something.

 

I have since started removing enough of the bike that I can get to the wire
and do whatever repairs are necessary.

 

Paul

 





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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I FOUND IT!!

2012-05-08 Thread Paul
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:

 Also on the map I have two browsers and have not be able to add myself.
 It keeps telling me my browser does not accept cookies.  But I have
 verified that it is. So I am kinds lost on that project.

*
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Ron, did you remember to log in first with a Google account?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Thanks for the help.

2012-05-08 Thread Paul
*Sweet lookin' little Nighthawk!!! :) Well done!*
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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Mike Erickson rafon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found a pair of handlebars to fit my 84 Nighthwak 650 (thanks to the
 dimensions provided by some of you).  I have been
 working on it for about a month now and took it out for my first ride
 on Sunday!   It was great until the rain came in.   Now that it is
 up and running (and safe on the road) it is now time to turn it over to
 my wife as she wants to start riding.  Looks like the second bike I
 just got (A 2002 1800 VTX) will just have to suffice. Here are some
 pictures of my two bikes.


 https://picasaweb.google.com/106011619016468537634/MyMotorcycles?authuser=0feat=directlink

 Thanks for your help!
 Rafone (from Aurora, IL)

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] I FOUND IT!!

2012-05-08 Thread Pastor Ron
Yes I did Paul.  Can virus checkers or fire walls set this off? I am running
AVG professional. 

Ron

 

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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] I FOUND IT!!

 

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Pastor Ron pastor...@cox.net wrote:

Also on the map I have two browsers and have not be able to add myself.  It
keeps telling me my browser does not accept cookies.  But I have verified
that it is. So I am kinds lost on that project.

 

Ron, did you remember to log in first with a Google account?




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