Re: Group Policy Custom Administrative Template Issue
Have you tried the setting under View-Filtering...? You may need to uncheck Only show policy settings that can be fully managed. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com 21/02/2009 01:15 Please respond to NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com To NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com cc Subject Group Policy Custom Administrative Template Issue I?m trying to create a custom adm file to set the DisablePST registry setting for OLK 2003. I created the user based adm file without issue, but my machine based(copied below) one doesn?t work properly. I can add it fine, creates the category, but when you click on Microsoft Office Outlook 2003, the Policy doesn?t appear on the right/In the Settings Pane. Any help would be appreciated. *start*** CLASS MACHINE CATEGORY Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 POLICY DisablePST Registry Setting KEYNAME SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook VALUENAME DisablePST VALUEON NUMERIC 1 VALUEOFF DELETE END POLICY END CATEGORY ***end** - John Barsodi http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator. QUINN-Insurance Limited is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Life Direct Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 292374 and is a private company limited by shares. QUINN-Insurance Limited is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Both companies have their head office at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image/gif
RE: Viewing log files in realtime
+1 for SMS Trace Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 _ From: ericwoodf...@gmail.com [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Viewing log files in realtime - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
OOO responsibility
All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Not me. From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OOO responsibility
Nope, unless it's a high level exec. and they are on the phone with us telling us to do it. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Jason Gauthier jgauth...@lastar.comwrote: All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
We have been asked to do it once or twice, however the people that want it also have OWA access so they can set that themselves. The times we were asked were because of Special circumstances. -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility Not me. From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
+1Execs on demand only. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOO responsibility Nope, unless it's a high level exec. and they are on the phone with us telling us to do it. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Jason Gauthier jgauth...@lastar.com wrote: All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
+1 Empower your users! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility We have been asked to do it once or twice, however the people that want it also have OWA access so they can set that themselves. The times we were asked were because of Special circumstances. -Original Message- From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility Not me. From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason Confidentiality Notice: ** This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Adobe 0-day
Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Adobe 0-day
I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing…. *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Microsoft's Elevate America Training Program
Perhaps you or your users can make benefit from these new/revised training offerings from Microsoft: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cfedmg Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ As long as the world is turning and spinning, we're gonna be dizzy and we're gonna make mistakes. - Mel Brooks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image003.jpg
RE: Adobe 0-day
GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
All our users can set this themselves. Being a small company it allows us to go around and teach everyone on new policies/technologies. ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Adobe Acrobat Reader: Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\x.0\JSPrefs Adobe Acrobat: Software\Adobe\Adobe Acrobat\x.0\JSPrefs Setting the DWORD bEnableJS to 0 will disable JavaScript. I'm setting these values it in our login script ...Tim From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Adobe 0-day
Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing…. *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
You sure about the lawsuit thing? In contrast to corporate law, which allows shareholders and officers to be individually sued if the corporate formalities are not followed, the LLC law specifically bars a lawsuit against a member for the liabilities of the LLC http://www.rjmintz.com/appch6.html Additionally, an LLC separates business assets from personal assets - if your LLC goes bankrupt, the creditors can't get anything you've never used as part of your business. For those troubled businesses that operate through an asset protection vehicle like an LLC, the debts and obligations of the business are those of the limited liability company and not the business owners personally http://thellcexpert.com/llcanswers/ I was a sole proprietor for six years, then got big enough to where having an LLC makes sense. At $50/year in Oregon, it's cheap. Also in Oregon, taxes are handled the same for a single owner LLC and a Sole Proprietorship. Has anyone here been sued over IT stuff? I can't imagine a scenario where an IT shop would get successfully sued if they were following best practices and making an honest effort on things. For damages there is insurance, which is also really cheap at $500/year. Less than $600 annually to protect your business is cheap! One thing I love about being an IT shop - overhead is really really cheap! LLC is the way to go if it's just you. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of lists Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? At least in Missouri, when you become an LLC, your personal assets are separated from your LLC assets and aren't legally available for suit actions. That's the reason I did it. If you personally did the work and screwed up, I can sue you personally. LLC or not, I can come get you and your stuff. The LLC doesn't do the work, you do. A good and or aggressive lawyer can get your personal stuff regardless of LLC, Sub Chapter S or C Corp status. Webster From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of lists Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? My accountant tells me the deductions are the same/similar as LLC as sole proprietorship are same/similar in Missouri. So what is the point of going the LLC route? If you take out a loan, you sign personally to guarantee the loan. If you take out a lease, you will sign personally to guarantee the lease. Unless you have a lot of assets to protect, what is the point of becoming an LLC? If you don't do all your LLC paperwork and record keeping in order, there is no corporate veil to cover your ASSets. Seems like you are throwing money to lawyers and accountants when you should be buying more RAM, more storage and faster processors! :) Webster From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of lists Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? LLC here. Do it; it's cheap and easy and then you can deduct lot's o stuff. Can you give me one example on what you can deduct as an LLC that you can't deduct as a Sole Prop.? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Never. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
My users can too.. but not when they go on vacation and forget. -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility All our users can set this themselves. Being a small company it allows us to go around and teach everyone on new policies/technologies. ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
I've emailed all users to disable JavaScript in Acrobat/Reader. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Adobe 0-day Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Whenever we get this type of request, we tell them they have to get it approved by corporate HR and corporate legal. That usually ends up discouraging most requests . . . Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the message and any file attachments from your computer. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? You sure about the lawsuit thing? Absolutely. Additionally, an LLC separates business assets from personal assets - if your LLC goes bankrupt, the creditors can't get anything you've never used as part of your business. Show me one financial institution that will loan a single member LLC money without the member being asked to sign personally to guarantee the loan. Has anyone here been sued over IT stuff? Yes. I had a friend who was a single member LLC. He was doing very high-end graphics and video production for a well known cable channel (that I am sure Shook would watch during hunting season). He was caught using their very high-end printers to print stuff the Secret Service found and traced. The Secret Service got him and the customer sued him personally even though he was doing work as his LLC. He lost his house, car, computer equipment (to the Secret Service) and 5 years of his life. Being an LLC did nothing to protect him. Moral of the story: don't print green stuff from copy machines, laser printers or high-end ink-jets. All that equipment is traceable thru dots printed on every page. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
+2 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility +1 Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility Never. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Not here.. if they call and ask I tell them how to get on OWA and set it there. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility +2 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility +1 Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility Never. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
Anyone know how to go about operating under more than 1 name? Say if you wanted 'Jons IT Consulting' AND 'Jons Network Hardware'. Do you just need 2 DBAs and operate as 1 business, or do you HAVE to keep everything seperate and operate as 2 businesses? On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@theessentialexchange.com wrote: You can be an LLC and a sole-proprieter. Both my accountant and my lawyer advised me to become an LLC. While I do have a (usually) silent partner, the advantages of incorporating vs. the disadvantages made it clear that incorporating could wait until (if) we decided to bring on employees (as opposed to subcontractors). -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? How many of the consulting types here on the list are incorporated, how many of you are LLCs, and how many are just sole-proprietors or members of a partnership? If you're incorporated, are you an S-corp or a C-corp, and why? Feel free to answer off-list, I'll tally results and post the answer later. Don't know how many of you might be interested in this, but for the next couple of weeks Intuit (maker of Quicken, Quickbooks, and TurboTax software) is offering LLCs and incorporation services free. See this website for more info: Incorporate Online, Incorporation Services, LLC, Trademark http://mycorporation.intuit.com/?cid=web_intuit_sbn_inc_free Angus P.S. If you answer off-list, please keep Incorporate, LLC, or ??? in the subject line so I can anti-spam-proof the answers ;-) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
Wow. How can someone smart enough to do that kind of work be dumb enough to think they wouldn't be caught? Or poor enough they need to attempt it? Carl From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? You sure about the lawsuit thing? Absolutely. Additionally, an LLC separates business assets from personal assets - if your LLC goes bankrupt, the creditors can't get anything you've never used as part of your business. Show me one financial institution that will loan a single member LLC money without the member being asked to sign personally to guarantee the loan. Has anyone here been sued over IT stuff? Yes. I had a friend who was a single member LLC. He was doing very high-end graphics and video production for a well known cable channel (that I am sure Shook would watch during hunting season). He was caught using their very high-end printers to print stuff the Secret Service found and traced. The Secret Service got him and the customer sued him personally even though he was doing work as his LLC. He lost his house, car, computer equipment (to the Secret Service) and 5 years of his life. Being an LLC did nothing to protect him. Moral of the story: don't print green stuff from copy machines, laser printers or high-end ink-jets. All that equipment is traceable thru dots printed on every page. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
Ah. I didn't know about the loan, never had a need to get one for my LLC because I only pay as I can afford. I'm guessing he was doing something illegal? Moral of the story: Don't be an idiot. I may be naive, but I find it hard to believe that if you're *really* doing the right things that the odds are *really* slim. Kind of like a fist fight, they're avoidable unless you have really really bad luck. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? You sure about the lawsuit thing? Absolutely. Additionally, an LLC separates business assets from personal assets - if your LLC goes bankrupt, the creditors can't get anything you've never used as part of your business. Show me one financial institution that will loan a single member LLC money without the member being asked to sign personally to guarantee the loan. Has anyone here been sued over IT stuff? Yes. I had a friend who was a single member LLC. He was doing very high-end graphics and video production for a well known cable channel (that I am sure Shook would watch during hunting season). He was caught using their very high-end printers to print stuff the Secret Service found and traced. The Secret Service got him and the customer sued him personally even though he was doing work as his LLC. He lost his house, car, computer equipment (to the Secret Service) and 5 years of his life. Being an LLC did nothing to protect him. Moral of the story: don't print green stuff from copy machines, laser printers or high-end ink-jets. All that equipment is traceable thru dots printed on every page. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Adobe 0-day
I'm also working on a batch script for this today. I'll post it when complete. -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Not real sure about the file you're using, but I read this morning that one of those patches currently works only with Acrobat 9.x. Might you be working with 8.x? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote on 02/23/2009 09:38:09 AM: Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing���. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? Wow. How can someone smart enough to do that kind of work be dumb enough to think they wouldn't be caught? Or poor enough they need to attempt it? That is what I don't understand. His mother and step-father are multi-multi-millionaires. But money can't keep you away from the Secret Service. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Are you putting this under User settings, or Computer settings? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
-Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? Anyone know how to go about operating under more than 1 name? Say if you wanted 'Jons IT Consulting' AND 'Jons Network Hardware'. Do you just need 2 DBAs and operate as 1 business, or do you HAVE to keep everything seperate and operate as 2 businesses? If you use your personal name in your business name, in most municipalities, you do not have to file Fictitious Name Certificates to operate the DBAs. If the DBAs do not contain your name then the Fictitious Name paperwork has to be filed (that is what allows someone trying to sue you or find you to, well, find you). I would just use DBAs and file the FNCs with the courthouse. Much cheaper than incorporating each entity. That is what hotel and restaurant franchises do. i.e Carl Webster Inc. d/b/a InFront Restaurant #123, Carl Webster Inc. d/b/a InFront Restaurant #234. Webster (before getting drawn into computers I was studying to get the Gold Medal on the CPA exam) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Same on XP - just tested it and it updated my test machine fine. From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. Confidentiality Notice: -- This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Any review, dissemination, or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
ChoiceONE port blocking?
Working with a client that has ChoiceONE DSL for Internet. I'm trying to set up some remote access with RDP and SSH but can only get it to work for about 2 minutes then I get disconnected and cannot reconnect. Their router is a linksys BEFSX41. I've tried resetting the router, playing with the configs, etc. No go. Could ChoiceONE be blocking those ports inbound? I have a tech support call in to them but haven't heard back yet. Didn't know if anybody out here has dealt with them before? Thanks all! *** John C. Kelsey, MCSE DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 2 : 814.375.4005 *: jckel...@drmc.org mailto:jckel...@drmc.org *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Incorporate, LLC, or ???
Your example details criminal activity which almost always pierces the veil between company and individual, the type of entity is irrelevant. It's certain that were he a sole owner corporation, the same would've happened. If your intent is to break the law with your enterprise you shouldn't bother organizing, because it's irrelevant. Also, it's likely that to guarantee a loan the sole owner of a corporation would have to guarantee personal assets when signing for the loan. Because the parties are so closely related (owner and corporation) it is unlikely a bank would settle for less. In the case of an LLC, when an/the owner is asked to personally sign, it's the act of personally signing for the loan that defines what entity is actually responsible in the event of a default. Your example isn't sufficiently demonstrative of the reasons not to organize under a different entity type. I will say, as a comment on this conversation that LLC's are relatively untested. There's not a large body of case law built and what information is out there is largely legal opinion. Until that opinion has been tested in court, you're in a grey area. The idea behind organizing behind any entity type is to limit some (not all!) of your personal liability. Decisions about how to organize your business should be discussed with your accountant and/or your attorney. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Webster carlwebs...@gmail.com wrote: *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Subject:* RE: Incorporate, LLC, or ??? You sure about the lawsuit thing? Absolutely. Additionally, an LLC separates business assets from personal assets – if your LLC goes bankrupt, the creditors can't get anything you've never used as part of your business. Show me one financial institution that will loan a single member LLC money without the member being asked to sign personally to guarantee the loan. Has anyone here been sued over IT stuff? Yes. I had a friend who was a single member LLC. He was doing very high-end graphics and video production for a well known cable channel (that I am sure Shook would watch during hunting season). He was caught using their very high-end printers to print stuff the Secret Service found and traced. The Secret Service got him and the customer sued him personally even though he was doing work as his LLC. He lost his house, car, computer equipment (to the Secret Service) and 5 years of his life. Being an LLC did nothing to protect him. Moral of the story: don't print green stuff from copy machines, laser printers or high-end ink-jets. All that equipment is traceable thru dots printed on every page. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Never, but I have had management tell me to change one or two when they didn't like someone's OOO they set. My users can set their OOO from their handhelds - so they have no escuse not to set it. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOO responsibility Never. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Supporting former employer
I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
Consultant Sean Rector, MCSE From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Supporting former employer
Yes. My fee is $X/hour. The rate can be reduced by walking the tech through this over the phone, rather than driving to your place of business. I covered this specific incident in detail before I left (if you have documentation of this, provide it). On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Chris Blair chris_bl...@identisys.comwrote: I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
I would not hesitate do both, with phone support being first if possible, good will goes a long long way. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
My first response is like Sean's but it's a small world and like people to think nice things about me, so I probably give them one for free. After its working, I email the solution to the dt support guy along with CCing my previous manager and let them know that in the future I will be happy to contract with them for support. -troy -Original Message- From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
+1
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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Consultant
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Supporting former employer
I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my
2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he
could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network
is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how
to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that).
So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by
walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your
services as a consultant?
Information Technology Manager
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Phone:(757) 213-4548 (direct line)
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RE: Supporting former employer
Walk them through it. If it gets bad and you have to go in and do a bunch of work then consult it, or if it becomes a frequent event. I did it that way and the guy moved on later and way up. Then he hired me for the best gig I have ever had. What goes around sometimes comes around. From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Supporting former employer
CB Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:19:12 -0600 CB From: Chris Blair CB So how would you handle the situation? Without regard to former employment status; i.e., like any other colleague or friend. If it doesn't take much out of you, then there's no point in going out of your way to cause them grief. However... CB Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person CB through it over the phone? ...but probably would not go this far, unless it just took a few minutes. CB Would you offer up your services as a consultant? Would you do someone else's job for free when they're getting paid? Ideally, it might have been easier to draw the line between being nice and consulting before you left. Consider: This is a list where people exchange help. I know that the analogy is not 1:1, but it's still food for thought. Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Folder Redirection: A Cautionary Note
If that were the case in our scenario, though, *all* users would've lost their redirected folders. That didn't happen. Only Vista users lost them, and only when logging into a machine they had logged into prior to the move to DFS. John From: Jim von Stein [mailto:jvonst...@soastc.org] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Folder Redirection: A Cautionary Note I've seen this issue, but it's related to DFS, not Folder Redirection. If you have an existing directory, and you add it as a DFS target, it takes all of the pre-existing contents of the directory and moves them into a new subfolder called DO_NOT_REMOVE_NtFrs_PreInstall_Directory. Your existing profiles probably weren't deleted, but moved there. Since the Folder Redirection policy (presumably) didn't look there, it didn't see anything. If you manually move them back out into the main folder after starting DFS replication, but before users have created new Profiles in the target, they replicate back and it works. Jim von Stein Information Services Administrator SOASTC From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Folder Redirection: A Cautionary Note Interesting... and other than Glen, it might also have been me making the suggestion. Although we don't have Vista in wide use, we do have it within our tech department. I recently finished our migration to DFS, including using our redirected folders, for the exact same reason, so could be in the same boat. I will do a little testing-I have a Vista machine we can wipe profiles from and use my test account. So far, we've not run into this at all with the Vista we do have, but it's very few installations. We also use roaming profiles in combination with the folder redirection, and so most of the testing I've done probably was with accounts that already had an established roaming profile for both XP and Vista. I would theorize that maybe it's a problem with the option to move existing content as per the folder redirection policy? When a new .v2 profile is created, that my documents would be empty. If it moves it when empty then it might be wiping out the existing data. Same thing could probably happen to an established Vista user logging on and getting a new/clean XP profile. -Bonnie From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Folder Redirection: A Cautionary Note I'm posting this so others may avoid the headache we've been encountering. We use folder redirection here. Previously, the group policy for it pointed to \\oldserver\share\folderfile:///\\oldserver\share\folder. The problem is that oldserver was about to be decommissioned, and the attached external SCSI storage system that housed share was being moved to another server. This would mean pointing everyone to \\newserver\share\folderfile:///\\newserver\share\folder. Someone on this list pointed out that DFS was a smarter way to use folder redirection since you could configure the group policy to point to \\domain\dfs\folderfile:///\\domain\dfs\folder and never have to change that again-just change the DFS target as needed in the future. This seemed smart, so I created a DFS target (\\domain\dfs\folderfile:///\\domain\dfs\folder) that pointed to \\oldserver\share\folderfile:///\\oldserver\share\folder went ahead and changed the group policy to point everyone to this. Then the problems began. Everything worked fine for my XP users. For my Vista users, however, the first time they logged into their computers, their existing redirected folders were deleted from the server. Gone. Poof. Bye-bye. Now, this didn't happen if they were logging into a Vista machine that they had never logged into before-only if they logged into one that they HAD previously logged into prior to the group policy change. Once they did this, their stuff would be deleted and we'd have to restore from a backup. Thank goodness for backups. And furthermore, thank goodness for our tapeless backup system (an ExaGrid) that makes restoring quick and painless. The furor has died down at this point, as pretty much everyone has logged in and lost their stuff. We then restore it, and it doesn't disappear again. We still periodically have someone lose their stuff when they wander around and log into a Vista machine that they don't normally use, but perhaps had logged into one time six months ago. But we're over the worst part. Anyhow, I thought I'd warn everyone about this unusual behavior. I'm not sure what the solution is-I can't really think of how we could've done things differently. I suppose if you're ever in a similar situation, you could delete the locally cached copies of profiles on each user's machine prior to making the group policy change. And
RE: Supporting former employer
I'd give whatever service I could to help as a freebie - this time - since you don't want to burn any bridges. Any future support provided would be billable. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
Would offer your services to the former employer as a consultant job. This way they won't take your services for granted. ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
I've been in this situation twice, but it never got ridiculous. I helped both of them 3-5 times each and then the calls stopped. I figured they'd be on my resume forever so I might as well maintain a good relationship. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer Walk them through it. If it gets bad and you have to go in and do a bunch of work then consult it, or if it becomes a frequent event. I did it that way and the guy moved on later and way up. Then he hired me for the best gig I have ever had. What goes around sometimes comes around. From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
See the first line of the template? It knows where it's supposed to go. Doesn't matter whether you add the template from User or Computer side of the GPO. Carl From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Are you putting this under User settings, or Computer settings? Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
This is an extremely subjective topic. I think the biggest concern, especially in this economic environment, is don't burn any bridges. I'm in a similar situation. I left my previous employer a few months ago. A good friend of mine is still working there and has been roped into doing Windows support functions on occasion ( he's a Linux admin). When he asks me for help I give it without even thinking about it. If my previous manager were to contact me, I'd be more inclined to offer assistance free for the first time then on an hourly basis after that. Again, I don't want to do something that may come back to haunt me. YMMV Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 _ From: chris_bl...@identisys.com [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Update: Stolen PC
I am determined to catch this thief. After hours and hours of looking through my DNS logs. I traced the machine to Bellsouth(can't said where). I got the MAC, Bellsouth DSL IP. Hopefully they catch this mother ker! -Z.V. This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Anytime you say I read this morning you're supposed to provide the URL to that reading. And did you read the .ADM file I've referenced, where you'll notice it addresses a bunch of different versions? Somebody went to a lot of trouble needlessly to cover older versions if it doesn't work with pre-9 versions. Carl -Original Message- From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Not real sure about the file you're using, but I read this morning that one of those patches currently works only with Acrobat 9.x. Might you be working with 8.x? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote on 02/23/2009 09:38:09 AM: Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
+1 on this response Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer My first response is like Sean's but it's a small world and like people to think nice things about me, so I probably give them one for free. After its working, I email the solution to the dt support guy along with CCing my previous manager and let them know that in the future I will be happy to contract with them for support. -troy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
I just installed this, and got no errors, but there were no settings visible to set. I changed the Filter for this view and unchecked Only show policy settings that can be fully managed and then I could see all the settings. I'm not a Group Policy expert, but is this a mistake in the Adobe template, or do most people uncheck that check box and are there little to no ramifications in doing so? -- Mike Gill From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
+1 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer I would not hesitate do both, with phone support being first if possible, good will goes a long long way. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Update: Stolen PC
Sweet, keep us posted. I have you catch them as well. - Original Message - From: Vue, Za To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Update: Stolen PC I am determined to catch this thief. After hours and hours of looking through my DNS logs. I traced the machine to Bellsouth(can't said where). I got the MAC, Bellsouth DSL IP. Hopefully they catch this mother ker! -Z.V. -- This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Which version of Acronis is best?
Is there one version of Acronis that folks like better, or is the latest one the one to get? Thanks, David ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Update: Stolen PC
Definitely -- string 'em up! David On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet, keep us posted. I have you catch them as well. - Original Message - *From:* Vue, Za z...@emory.edu *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 12:46 PM *Subject:* Update: Stolen PC I am determined to catch this thief. After hours and hours of looking through my DNS logs. I traced the machine to Bellsouth(can't said where). I got the MAC, Bellsouth DSL IP. Hopefully they catch this mother ker! -Z.V. -- This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- David _ No man can climb out beyond the limitations of his own character. ~ John Morley (1838 - 1923) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Carl, i did a copy a paste into notepad and saved as adobe.adm and imported and yea...i received the template but not settings...stumped -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Anytime you say I read this morning you're supposed to provide the URL to that reading. And did you read the .ADM file I've referenced, where you'll notice it addresses a bunch of different versions? Somebody went to a lot of trouble needlessly to cover older versions if it doesn't work with pre-9 versions. Carl -Original Message- From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Not real sure about the file you're using, but I read this morning that one of those patches currently works only with Acrobat 9.x. Might you be working with 8.x? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote on 02/23/2009 09:38:09 AM: Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
H...disregard...forgot to set the action to uncheck fully manageable. DOH Thomas -Original Message- From: Thomas Gonzalez Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Carl, i did a copy a paste into notepad and saved as adobe.adm and imported and yea...i received the template but not settings...stumped -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Anytime you say I read this morning you're supposed to provide the URL to that reading. And did you read the .ADM file I've referenced, where you'll notice it addresses a bunch of different versions? Somebody went to a lot of trouble needlessly to cover older versions if it doesn't work with pre-9 versions. Carl -Original Message- From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Not real sure about the file you're using, but I read this morning that one of those patches currently works only with Acrobat 9.x. Might you be working with 8.x? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote on 02/23/2009 09:38:09 AM: Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
Look at your filter settings and uncheck 'Only show policy settings that can be fully managed' Steven Calvanese [IT Support Technician] MEMBER SOLUTIONS [P]267.287.1023 [F]267.287.1033 WWW.MEMBERSOLUTIONS.COM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This email and any attachments are confidential and intended for the sole use of the persons named in the email. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify MEMBER SOLUTIONS immediately at 267-287-1000 and permanently remove this email from your mailbox. Any disclosure, copying or distribution of this email by any person who is not the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Carl, i did a copy a paste into notepad and saved as adobe.adm and imported and yea...i received the template but not settings...stumped -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Anytime you say I read this morning you're supposed to provide the URL to that reading. And did you read the .ADM file I've referenced, where you'll notice it addresses a bunch of different versions? Somebody went to a lot of trouble needlessly to cover older versions if it doesn't work with pre-9 versions. Carl -Original Message- From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Not real sure about the file you're using, but I read this morning that one of those patches currently works only with Acrobat 9.x. Might you be working with 8.x? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote on 02/23/2009 09:38:09 AM: Working from IE7/Vista SP1 I just did a select-all on the web page, copy, and pasted into notepad and saved. Works fine. Carl From: Thomas Gonzalez [mailto:tgonza...@girlscouts-swtx.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day Hmmm, tried to save as adobe.adm and received several errors when loading the template. Any ideas? Thanks, Thomas From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day Nice one, cheers Obviously the Google-force runs stronger in your family than mine... 2009/2/23 Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Update: Stolen PC
Go get 'em! This story is worth following... Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Vue, Za [mailto:z...@emory.edu] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Update: Stolen PC I am determined to catch this thief. After hours and hours of looking through my DNS logs. I traced the machine to Bellsouth(can't said where). I got the MAC, Bellsouth DSL IP. Hopefully they catch this mother ker! -Z.V. This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Update: Stolen PC
Good luck! Would like to hear how this ends (hopefully in your favor). ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Update: Stolen PC
As I said before, now is the time to get the cops involved. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 09:46, Vue, Za z...@emory.edu wrote: I am determined to catch this thief. After hours and hours of looking through my DNS logs. I traced the machine to Bellsouth(can't said where). I got the MAC, Bellsouth DSL IP. Hopefully they catch this mother ker! -Z.V. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
You can't put a price on good will. My time is valuable, but my reputation as being helpful is equally so. It's also a judgment call depending on how your relationship was while working with the former employer. If I feel they're just using me, then by all means I charge, but if it's a genuine hey, I have problem with... and I don't think they're being abusive about the request then I give them basically I'm being nice to you, pass it forward when you get the chance. I will always err on the side of being too nice - I sleep better at night that way (my be nice and optimistic personality makes me run this way), but everyone's personality and situation is different. You just never know when being nice will pay off You're looking for a tech guy? Hmmmoh yeah, I know a guy who used to work for my wife's company and she said he was always helpful, nobody ever said anything bad about him... David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
If you resigned and left on good term then I would suggest do what you can to assist them. Perhaps even coming in after hours. You will feel better. You never know, you may end up working for them again one day. -Z.V. From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer +1 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer I would not hesitate do both, with phone support being first if possible, good will goes a long long way. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Supporting former employer I changed jobs last December and left on good terms with everyone. I gave my 2-week notice, worked long hours to train the desktop support person so he could take over my duties. Well I got a call from them today that the network is down. I know what the issue is and I even trained the desktop person on how to fix it before I left (and numerous times before that). So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Compare Files/Block Mode
Looking for a decent utility that can compare 2 files/folders and report on the changed file blocks. (To give me a idea of how much data would be transferred via the RSYNC program - without actually performing a sync). -Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Supporting former employer
I agree also. A very diplomatic approach that ensures you don't get taken advantage of in the future. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on this response Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer My first response is like Sean's but it's a small world and like people to think nice things about me, so I probably give them one for free. After its working, I email the solution to the dt support guy along with CCing my previous manager and let them know that in the future I will be happy to contract with them for support. -troy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
+1 If I set something up wrong I'll give them all the support they need but if they changed something and broke it it's to correct their folly. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one way or another. If one of my techs left and later wanted to charge me for helping me with something, I would bear no ill will towards them for it. It would be unreasonable of me to do so. I'm a nice guy, too. Charging for my services doesn't mean I'm not. :) From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer You can't put a price on good will. My time is valuable, but my reputation as being helpful is equally so. It's also a judgment call depending on how your relationship was while working with the former employer. If I feel they're just using me, then by all means I charge, but if it's a genuine hey, I have problem with... and I don't think they're being abusive about the request then I give them basically I'm being nice to you, pass it forward when you get the chance. I will always err on the side of being too nice - I sleep better at night that way (my be nice and optimistic personality makes me run this way), but everyone's personality and situation is different. You just never know when being nice will pay off You're looking for a tech guy? Hmmmoh yeah, I know a guy who used to work for my wife's company and she said he was always helpful, nobody ever said anything bad about him... David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
Totally agreed. It's all a judgment call, every situation is different. :) David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one way or another. If one of my techs left and later wanted to charge me for helping me with something, I would bear no ill will towards them for it. It would be unreasonable of me to do so. I'm a nice guy, too. Charging for my services doesn't mean I'm not. :) From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer You can't put a price on good will. My time is valuable, but my reputation as being helpful is equally so. It's also a judgment call depending on how your relationship was while working with the former employer. If I feel they're just using me, then by all means I charge, but if it's a genuine hey, I have problem with... and I don't think they're being abusive about the request then I give them basically I'm being nice to you, pass it forward when you get the chance. I will always err on the side of being too nice - I sleep better at night that way (my be nice and optimistic personality makes me run this way), but everyone's personality and situation is different. You just never know when being nice will pay off You're looking for a tech guy? Hmmmoh yeah, I know a guy who used to work for my wife's company and she said he was always helpful, nobody ever said anything bad about him... David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
I tell former employers I cost $125.00 an hour, plus expenses. I do that because I do not want to support an environment I left, because I know those left to carry my workload, and\or those coming in to replace me are going to change everything anyway. I don't want the headache. I tell fellow employees this price too.. I don't get called to support them. imagine that. LOL From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 13:29 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer Totally agreed. It's all a judgment call, every situation is different. J David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one way or another. If one of my techs left and later wanted to charge me for helping me with something, I would bear no ill will towards them for it. It would be unreasonable of me to do so. I'm a nice guy, too. Charging for my services doesn't mean I'm not. J From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer You can't put a price on good will. My time is valuable, but my reputation as being helpful is equally so. It's also a judgment call depending on how your relationship was while working with the former employer. If I feel they're just using me, then by all means I charge, but if it's a genuine hey, I have problem with. and I don't think they're being abusive about the request then I give them basically I'm being nice to you, pass it forward when you get the chance. I will always err on the side of being too nice - I sleep better at night that way (my be nice and optimistic personality makes me run this way), but everyone's personality and situation is different. You just never know when being nice will pay off You're looking for a tech guy? Hmmm..oh yeah, I know a guy who used to work for my wife's company and she said he was always helpful, nobody ever said anything bad about him... David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Compare Files/Block Mode
Look for a binary diff with reporting. Examdiff pro will do it, hopefully there is a cmdline version of something :) From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Compare Files/Block Mode Looking for a decent utility that can compare 2 files/folders and report on the changed file blocks. (To give me a idea of how much data would be transferred via the RSYNC program - without actually performing a sync). -Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
Does anyone know of away to redirect Recover deleted items to another folder, specifically a PST. I have a user who allowed her husband to work on her computer and he drug about 150mb of e-mail out into her deleted items. I am wanting to recover this for her to sift through. Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks, Todd ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
I believe ExMerge can pull items from the dumpster into a PST. Then manually import PSTCertain Folder. From: Todd Arnett [mailto:tarn...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Does anyone know of away to redirect Recover deleted items to another folder, specifically a PST. I have a user who allowed her husband to work on her computer and he drug about 150mb of e-mail out into her deleted items. I am wanting to recover this for her to sift through. Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks, Todd ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
Was the Deleted Items deleted? Also do you backup the mailboxes? ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
Deleted items were emptied. We do backup mailboxes, BUT these e-mails were in the user's PST which is NOT backed up, since they put it on their local machine. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Was the Deleted Items deleted? Also do you backup the mailboxes? ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Adobe 0-day
This is an expected and required action for these types of .adm files. Fully managed policies are un-done when the policy is removed. To reverse this policy setting you must leave the policy applied and change the settings and leave the policy in place long enough for all clients to pick up the change. Carl From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day I just installed this, and got no errors, but there were no settings visible to set. I changed the Filter for this view and unchecked Only show policy settings that can be fully managed and then I could see all the settings. I'm not a Group Policy expert, but is this a mistake in the Adobe template, or do most people uncheck that check box and are there little to no ramifications in doing so? -- Mike Gill From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Adobe 0-day GPO template: http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/uploads/Calendar/adobe.txt Carl From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Adobe 0-day I was searching for a way to disable this en masse on my Citrix servers, but can't find any mention of a reg key or similar way of doing it 2009/2/23 David Lum david@nwea.org Anyone doing anything about this? http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Calendar.20090221 I thought I saw a thread here last week about it, but can find nothing.. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
Outlook Web Access, OptionsRecover Deleted Items, click View Items will often show deleted Deleted Items. I used to be in the habit of shift-deleting items from various folders. I did that to my inbox once...but got it back from the OWA with the above method. From: Todd Arnett [mailto:tarn...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Does anyone know of away to redirect Recover deleted items to another folder, specifically a PST. I have a user who allowed her husband to work on her computer and he drug about 150mb of e-mail out into her deleted items. I am wanting to recover this for her to sift through. Thanks in advance for any help. Thanks, Todd ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OOO responsibility
Only if it's one of the few that sign my paycheck J Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. From: Jason Gauthier [mailto:jgauth...@lastar.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OOO responsibility All, Wanted to take a poll. How many of you in IT positions are responsible for setting other people's OOO when they forget? This has been a recent point of irritation for me. Thanks! Jason Please consider the environment before printing this email. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Compare Files/Block Mode
ExamDiff Pro looked promising, but crashes on big files :( Either way, the keywords binary diff opened up a whole new world of new search results and interesting products. Even many win32 programs that compete with RSYNC :) Thanks, Sam From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Compare Files/Block Mode Look for a binary diff with reporting. Examdiff pro will do it, hopefully there is a cmdline version of something J From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Compare Files/Block Mode Looking for a decent utility that can compare 2 files/folders and report on the changed file blocks. (To give me a idea of how much data would be transferred via the RSYNC program - without actually performing a sync). -Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
Well, it depends entirely on the situation dynamics ... there are those I've worked with in the past that I'd still consider colleagues and friends, and would attempt to provide help and advice for free, just like happens here on this list quite often ... Once it goes beyond providing information and advice (relatively quick) and becomes work, the the facet of consulting would come in, but not before. Beyond simple job references, the concept of collegial alliance can be compelling. I don't know if I feel any loyalty at all for some of my past employers, but I do still feel a loyalty to some of those I used to work side by side with. just my two cents Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security _ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Supporting former employer The number of responses from folks recommending against charging surprises me. I fall into the pro-charging category. I'm not saying be a jerk about it, but there's nothing at all unreasonable about viewing your time as being valuable. What *is* unreasonable is for a former employer to expect you to work for free (not saying yours expects this-I don't know). If I left my organization, but boss would never DREAM of asking me to help out for free after the fact. If my services were needed, she wouldn't hesitate to get a purchase order processed for my time. I wouldn't charge for answering a few e-mail questions or for spending a few minutes on the phone. But beyond that, I would be inclined to charge for my time just like any other professional would. Any former employer who would begrudge you of that is (A.) someone you probably wouldn't want to go back to work for and (B.) likely to come up with some other reason to give you a bad reference in the future. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 www.taylor.k12.fl.us ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
I'm not sure I understand the question here. When you recover deleted items, the items are recovered to the Deleted Items folder. You can then move them to wherever you want. Why do you need a redirection here? But your problem seems to be that the items were originally in a PST file. In that case, server-side deleted item retention isn't going to help you. You need a backup of the PST file... Cheers Ken From: Todd Arnett [mailto:tarn...@lastar.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Deleted items were emptied. We do backup mailboxes, BUT these e-mails were in the user's PST which is NOT backed up, since they put it on their local machine. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Was the Deleted Items deleted? Also do you backup the mailboxes? ___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: SECURING WIFI ROUTER
The reason we don't call this security is because this isn't something you can rely on to mitigate a risk. If the burglar doesn't think or care about looking in windows then your wallet is just as vulnerable as the next person's. That's not to say that there is no benefit to obscurity. However it's not something you can *rely* on to mitigate anything to any quantifiable metric On the other hand, the use of a safe mitigates you from burglars who break in without specific safe-breaking tools. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2009 3:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: SECURING WIFI ROUTER Actually, your shade example is a good one. Your closed shades would stop the random, wanna be burglar from taking a chance on breaking into your house, and finding nothing. They can't see that you have stuff through your windows. They just want quick cash, so they walk next door and see your neighbors wallet with cash sticking out on his table through the window. They break in his house, and take the easy, visible cash. On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: My final rebuttal is this: There is no value in an aspect of security or security process that can not be quantified. To do so is therefor meaningless, and therefore has no value - other than some human oddity that makes you personally feel good about doing it. Im going to go pull the shades down on all my windows and pretend there are no bad guys outside. :-) -- ME2 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: I will stipulate that security only by obscurity is false security. But likely to remain unconvinced that there is no role or value for obscurity in the security process. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Supporting former employer
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one way or another. Well, even if it *shouldn't*, it sometimes *does*. I find I have better luck planning my life around actuality than should. And certainly, doing something for free gets you additional good will you didn't have before. Or somebody owes you and that might have some value. Every situation is difference, of course. But sometimes it's quite valuable to do something for free. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: SECURING WIFI ROUTER
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com wrote: If that's the way you want to go, two cheap WAPs will provide what you want - one secured, the other not, on different frequencies. You still need a sufficiently intelligent firewall to separate the two into separate subnets. Not at all. We've got two of these router+WAP boxes. Connect first box's Internet port to cable modem. LAN side of this box is the guest network. Plug second box's Internet port into LAN side of first box. LAN side of second box is the trusted network. You're double NAT'ing, but that's usually not a problem for SOHO environments. I've done this before for a friend who wanted something similar, and it worked for them. I wouldn't want to run a big business on it, but that doesn't seem to be what's under discussion. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items
Not always true. If an item is hard deleted from a folder and the DumpsterAlwaysOn registry key is set (set by default in Outlook 2007 and above) you can recover items from the folder in which they were hard deleted, not from the Deleted Items folder. And to the original poster: PSTs do not support a dumpster. The dumpster is a flag in the Exchange database store, per item, maintained in a hidden index that doesn't exist in a PST. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items I'm not sure I understand the question here. When you recover deleted items, the items are recovered to the Deleted Items folder. You can then move them to wherever you want. Why do you need a redirection here? But your problem seems to be that the items were originally in a PST file. In that case, server-side deleted item retention isn't going to help you. You need a backup of the PST file... Cheers Ken From: Todd Arnett [mailto:tarn...@lastar.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2009 8:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Deleted items were emptied. We do backup mailboxes, BUT these e-mails were in the user's PST which is NOT backed up, since they put it on their local machine. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Redirect Outlook Recover Deleted Items Was the Deleted Items deleted? Also do you backup the mailboxes? ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Supporting former employer
Of course you have to consider the no good deed goes unpunished scenario whereby you own the problem forever. So be sure going in you say Ill do it for free this time but next time it's going to cost -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Supporting former employer On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But refusing to help a former employer for free shouldn't affect good will one way or another. Well, even if it *shouldn't*, it sometimes *does*. I find I have better luck planning my life around actuality than should. And certainly, doing something for free gets you additional good will you didn't have before. Or somebody owes you and that might have some value. Every situation is difference, of course. But sometimes it's quite valuable to do something for free. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Supporting former employer
On 23 Feb 2009 at 11:19, Chris Blair wrote: So how would you handle the situation? Would you take the time to fix it by walking the desktop person through it over the phone? Would you offer up your services as a consultant? I would tell them I can help free if we can get this done in X minutes or less, otherwise it becomes consulting, at $[old_salary*2.5]/hour (or more, if you were underpaid ;-D), where X is whatever you're comfortable with, say 15- 30. I would feel this protects your reputation with them and avoid an open- ended time commitment for unpaid support on your part. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
