Re: Equallogic and Sata

[Anders Blomgren]

I'll agree with the others and say that SATA works great on the EQ's (even
though I use the SAS versions nowadays).

You mentioned virtual machines... one thing that will eat up iops like
nothing else is if you start doing vdi on top of the virtual machines. If
so, measure carefully with San HQ and move slowly so that you don't max out
the array.

-Anders

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
> series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he
> is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such
> off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is the HP
> P4000 G2 series.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Epic Fail

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 25 Mar 2010 at 16:14, Ben Scott  wrote:

>   I've also seen this cause more subtle differences.  For example, at home, I
> sometimes get different Google search results vs at work. Both on Comcast,
> within 30 miles of each other. 

I hope your search histories are different at each place.  ;-)

Different Google cookies, so different search histories -- unless you log in to 
the same GMail or other Google account at both places, they'll have different 
histories.  And even then, unless you run something like CustomizeGoogle in 
Firefox and anonymize your Google UID, they'll still be considered different 
computers.



--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 25 Mar 2010 at 22:57, Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)  wrote:

> That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name
> to the Microsoft Antimalware process of "MsMpEng.exe" used in OneCare
> and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows
> Defender??)
> 
> Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming.

Probably an intentional mis-naming by the malware.  Actually it turned out to 
be a true nasty trojan, not an FP (although I had those today also*).  Info 
pages here:

W32/IRCbot.gen.aj
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_252087.htm

W32/Rimecud
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_237984.htm

My infections had the filename of the first of those but the exact file-
location and registry-keys of the second.  VIPRE identified them as 
"Worm.Win32.Rimecud" [where DO they get these names???] and the VIPRE info page 
(doesn't say anything useful, unfortunately) is here:
http://www.sunbeltsecurity.com/ThreatDisplay.aspx?name=Worm.Win32.Rimecud&tid=4268277&cs=50289929C7DB40A0D03710195D3B1B1C
or here if the above wraps unusably: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ydtnjw6

I had three machines where the VIPRE "Deep Scan" found this.  I need to make 
sure I get Deep Scans on the rest of the network RSN as this spreads via 
network shares among other methods.

Angus

* FPs on half a dozen files in hidden directory C:\hp\recovery\wizard\fsadmin\ 
on one XP Home machine that still sits on my network.  Submitted them to 
Sunbelt after dealing with Rimecud.  No answer yet, but it was after 9 PM 
Florida time when I submitted them.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: Forefront Client Security

[Jon Harris]

I used it but foind the reporting side left a lot to desire.  It does work
but depending on how you have it installed and reporting you may not get
reports when something bad happens.

Jon

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> We used FF until January of this year.  I inherited the installation
> and like Joe says, it just runs.  I didn't like it, though, because I
> couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing.
>
> However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly.  Since
> moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that
> required either manual cleaning or reimaging.
>
>
> Die dulci fruere!
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> > Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
> >
> > I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually
> use, and deploy to clients, etc?
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
> >
> >
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Burian, Matthew J. (mjb)]

That one file you saw in the recycle bin sounds very similar in name
to the Microsoft Antimalware process of "MsMpEng.exe" used in OneCare
and now used in Security Essentials. (Also may be used with Windows
Defender??)

Just an interesting, though probably unrelated similarity in file naming.

Matt


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:

> I saw 4 or 5 machines on a 40 machine network with new warnings in the console
> when I checked remotely this morning.  I quickly previewed them; ISTR three
> machines had identical new detections in their Recycle Bins; the file was
> called something like Mx??Eng.exe.  ISTR one, an HP, had a bunch of hits in 
> its
> Recovery Partition.  I haven't had a chance to get to the office yet to submit
> them to VirusTotal and then to falsepositi...@sunbeltsoftware.com ...
>
> Angus
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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Re: Forefront Client Security

[Roger Wright]

We used FF until January of this year.  I inherited the installation
and like Joe says, it just runs.  I didn't like it, though, because I
couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing.

However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly.  Since
moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that
required either manual cleaning or reimaging.


Die dulci fruere!

Roger Wright
___




On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:
> Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was 
> wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.
>
> I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, 
> and deploy to clients, etc?
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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~   ~

Upgrade from 2008 to 2008 r2

[Steve Ens]

Kicked off an upgrade before I left of a Hyper V virtual machine.  Went
through the upgrade and let it run.  At home now, thinking the upgrade
should be finished.  Taking a look at Hyper V Manager and the machine is
nowhere to be seen.  I took a snapshot before I ran the upgrade, but that
doesn't show up in the console.  The backup files do seem to be there, but
what's the easiest way to bring the server back from the dead?  I've done
these upgrades a bunch of times on a test server, with no issues.  ANy
ideas?

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Re: Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server

[jgarciaitlist]

Thanks
--Original Message--
From: Alex Eckelberry
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server
Sent: Mar 25, 2010 8:04 PM

It seems completely workable to me.

I would recommend trying it as inbound firewall only, add medium and high 
priority IDS, HIPS (high only) and malicious web filtering.

Alex


-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 6:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server

Is it a doable soultion, they also have a RV042 which has the linksys 
rv firmware / firewall.

Would it be to much to add Viper Enterprise preium as the IPS/IDS, on a 20 user 
TS, that is used for couple of legit sites, and email?

thanks


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RE: Alternatives to DFS

[Peter Schwarz]

I sort of recall something like $3K per server but don't quote me on that.
You had better contact Globalscape directly for more reliable information.
They may have attractive pricing for non-profits, who knows...

Peter Schwarz


-Original Message-
From: Jim von Stein [mailto:jvonst...@soastc.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Alternatives to DFS

Can you give a rough idea of the cost of this? It looks very interesting,
but we're a non-profit (which means non-budget) organization.

Jim von Stein
Information Services Administrator
SOASTC


-Original Message-
From: Peter Schwarz [mailto:pschw...@syndeotech.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Alternatives to DFS

We use Globalscape WAFS with one Client distributed over 4 locations with
broadband connections and approx. 200GB of documents. It works well.
Globalscape support is great, too.
http://www.globalscape.com/wafs/

Peter Schwarz


-Original Message-
From: Des Waugh [mailto:d...@charanda.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Alternatives to DFS

 Hi
Anyone using 3rd party replication software
I am open to suggestions
I have a customer with 7 offices currently using 6 x WIN2K3R2 std and a
WIN2K8R2 server with MS DFS relication
I am looking for a more reliable system as the current setup is removing
files into the conflict and deleted folders when it shouldn't ie the
customer keeps "losing" files
Inter office links vary from 1 x 2M/2M SHDSL at main office to 512/512
ADLS links at regional smaller offices
Win2k8 server is located with their ISP and network is setup as a
private IP network.
Approx 160GB data is shared between offices
DFS itself is not enabled just the replication
Thanks Des

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Re: Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[Andrew S. Baker]

Nice, Ben

Thanks.  It's always good to see different approaches.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful.  It
> runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via "NET
> VIEW").  Useful when you want to do something on every computer
> currently running on the LAN.  You can specify patterns to match and
> patterns to exclude.
>
> The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with
> PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer.
>
> It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two
> different OCX control files for each matching computer.
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

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RE: Any good One tb or higher raid class stata disks??

[Mike Gill]

NewEgg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148278

1TB is the max. If you're going for ultra high capacity then you're not
going to get workstation/enterprise class.

-- 
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Any good One tb or higher raid class stata disks??

do you know were I could get them, I need either 6 X 1.5 tb or higher 
drives.
thanks

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Mike Gill wrote:

> I buy Seagate ES.2's. They work very well for me.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:36 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Any good One tb or higher raid class stata disks??
>
> I will be rebudling a server and need 6 sata raid class hds?? Any ideas
>
> And how ssd raid one for os and the rest for raid class sata disks over
one
> tb or so??
>
> Samsung disks any good???
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
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>
>
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>

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Script: Run a command for each computer on network

[Ben Scott]

Here's another batch script I realized others might find useful.  It
runs a command for every computer it finds on the network (via "NET
VIEW").  Useful when you want to do something on every computer
currently running on the LAN.  You can specify patterns to match and
patterns to exclude.

The command runs on the local computer, but you could combine it with
PSEXEC to run the commands on the remote computer.

It includes an example that will concisely list the version of two
different OCX control files for each matching computer.

http://sites.google.com/site/mailvortex/windows/for-each-computer

-- Ben

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~   ~

RE: Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server

[Alex Eckelberry]

It seems completely workable to me.

I would recommend trying it as inbound firewall only, add medium and high 
priority IDS, HIPS (high only) and malicious web filtering.

Alex


-Original Message-
From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 6:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server

Is it a doable soultion, they also have a RV042 which has the linksys 
rv firmware / firewall.

Would it be to much to add Viper Enterprise preium as the IPS/IDS, on a 20 user 
TS, that is used for couple of legit sites, and email?

thanks


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  ~

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Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Kurt Buff]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:36, Klint Price  wrote:
> A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where
> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another
> team in another office).

Per other responses, if it's serving clients, find one of them and
look at the registry.

No access to the network on which you suspect it's been installed?

What leads you to believe it's been installed?

Kurt

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RE: Forefront Client Security

[Joseph L. Casale]

I use it.

Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's.

It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you
I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs
like that. It just runs, properly.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Forefront Client Security

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


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Forefront Client Security

[Joseph Heaton]

Anyone using this?  I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering 
if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it.

I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren.  How is it to actually use, and 
deploy to clients, etc?


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Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Richard Stovall]

How do they even know about it if it's not serving clients?  If the
co-worker just installed it and never really did anything with it,
then that is a different beast.  I suppose the OP could search for
shares named WSUSTemp, WsusContent, etc.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> Although, if it's rogue, and was just setup, it stands to reason that they
> may not have setup a GPO to have clients update from it.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:
>>
>> Or that, but that's just waa too easy.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>> > Can't you look in the registry under
>> > HKLM\software\policies\microsoft\windows\windowsupdate\wuserver ?
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Jonathan Link
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Sent: Thu Mar 25 17:50:32 2010
>> > Subject: Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server
>> >
>> > Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?
>> >
>> > In Group Policy Object Editor, expand Computer Configuration, expand
>> > Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then click
>> > Windows
>> > Update.
>> >
>> > In the details pane, click Specify Intranet Microsoft update service
>> > location.
>> >
>> > Click Enabled and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the
>> > Set
>> > the intranet update service for detecting updates box and in the Set the
>> > intranet statistics server box. For example, type http(s)://servername
>> > in
>> > both boxes.
>> >
>> > Click OK.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on
>> >> the
>> >> group policy that gets updated)...
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
>> >>> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect
>> >>> where
>> >>> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by
>> >>> another
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Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Jonathan Link]

Although, if it's rogue, and was just setup, it stands to reason that they
may not have setup a GPO to have clients update from it.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Richard Stovall  wrote:

> Or that, but that's just waa too easy.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> > Can't you look in the registry under
> > HKLM\software\policies\microsoft\windows\windowsupdate\wuserver ?
> >
> > 
> > From: Jonathan Link
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Sent: Thu Mar 25 17:50:32 2010
> > Subject: Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server
> >
> > Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?
> >
> > In Group Policy Object Editor, expand Computer Configuration, expand
> > Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then click
> Windows
> > Update.
> >
> > In the details pane, click Specify Intranet Microsoft update service
> > location.
> >
> > Click Enabled and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the Set
> > the intranet update service for detecting updates box and in the Set the
> > intranet statistics server box. For example, type http(s)://servername in
> > both boxes.
> >
> > Click OK.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the
> >> group policy that gets updated)...
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
> >>> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect
> where
> >>> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by
> another
> >>> team in another office).
> >>>
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Re: RE: Equallogic and Sata

[Andrew S. Baker]

Our experience with SATA in enterprise SANs corroborates your findings.
Only under the heaviest loads do you see the power of SAS with a good SAN.

And it saves lots of loot!

On Mar 25, 2010 4:41 PM, "Kim Longenbaugh"  wrote:

 We have several EQ arrays here, all SATA, and like the other two posters,
enjoy good performance from them.

Some people will drag out the old adage about SATA drives not being as
reliable as SAS or plain SCSI drives, but that has not been our experience
with the EQ drives.




 --

*From:* N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:31 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Equallogic and Sata





I've had a PS5000 for a little over a year and just added a PS6000.  Both
are running SATA driv...

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RE: printer redirection woes

[James Hill]

It really does sound like the driver is 32bit when you have selected to import 
a 64bit or vice versa.

Sometimes when a driver won't import on the server you can upload it from a 
client.

So log on to the client and then browse to printers and faxes on the terminal 
server.  Then select File -> Server Properties.  Select the Drivers tab and 
click on Add etc.

I have the universal driver on my 2008 servers but don't have any 03's to test 
it on.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 8:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: printer redirection woes

Oops, I somehow deleted that info out of my original post.  It's a 2003 
32 bit terminal server.


James Hill wrote:
> What version of terminal server?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 5:50 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: printer redirection woes
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have a client a terminal server.  They have a laserjet 1320 USB 
> printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop.  The user 
> now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. 
>
> It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's 
> website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP 
> Universal Driver.  Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS 
> printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an 
> additional driver for x64.  It errors and says that a driver can't be 
> found for the requested processor architecture.
>
> Am I screwed here?  Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>   


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~   ~

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~   ~

Re: printer redirection woes

[Bill Humphries]

Oops, I somehow deleted that info out of my original post.  It's a 2003 
32 bit terminal server.



James Hill wrote:

What version of terminal server?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 5:50 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: printer redirection woes

Hi all,

We have a client a terminal server.  They have a laserjet 1320 USB 
printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop.  The user 
now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. 

It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's 
website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP 
Universal Driver.  Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS 
printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an 
additional driver for x64.  It errors and says that a driver can't be 
found for the requested processor architecture.


Am I screwed here?  Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here?

Thanks.

Bill

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

  



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~   ~

Viper Enterprise preium 2003 Terminal Server

[jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]

	Is it a doable soultion, they also have a RV042 which has the 
linksys rv firmware / firewall.


Would it be to much to add Viper Enterprise preium as the IPS/IDS, on a 20 
user TS, that is used for couple of legit sites, and email?


thanks


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~   ~

Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Richard Stovall]

Or that, but that's just waa too easy.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM, John Cook  wrote:
> Can't you look in the registry under
> HKLM\software\policies\microsoft\windows\windowsupdate\wuserver ?
>
> 
> From: Jonathan Link
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Thu Mar 25 17:50:32 2010
> Subject: Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server
>
> Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?
>
> In Group Policy Object Editor, expand Computer Configuration, expand
> Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then click Windows
> Update.
>
> In the details pane, click Specify Intranet Microsoft update service
> location.
>
> Click Enabled and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the Set
> the intranet update service for detecting updates box and in the Set the
> intranet statistics server box. For example, type http(s)://servername in
> both boxes.
>
> Click OK.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>
>> There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the
>> group policy that gets updated)...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
>>> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where
>>> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another
>>> team in another office).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Richard Stovall]

I'm thinking along these lines also.  But if the person helping you at
the site doesn't have privileges to AD and Group Policy, you could
have them start netstat -t 2 > output.txt in one command window and
run wuauclt /detectnow from another.   Ctrl-c in the netstat window
after an appropriate period then send you the output.txt file.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?
>
> In Group Policy Object Editor, expand Computer Configuration, expand
> Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then click Windows
> Update.
>
> In the details pane, click Specify Intranet Microsoft update service
> location.
>
> Click Enabled and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the Set
> the intranet update service for detecting updates box and in the Set the
> intranet statistics server box. For example, type http(s)://servername in
> both boxes.
>
> Click OK.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>
>> There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the
>> group policy that gets updated)...
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
>>> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where
>>> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another
>>> team in another office).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~

Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[John Cook]

Can't you look in the registry under 
HKLM\software\policies\microsoft\windows\windowsupdate\wuserver ?


From: Jonathan Link
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thu Mar 25 17:50:32 2010
Subject: Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?

 1.  In Group Policy Object Editor, expand Computer Configuration, expand 
Administrative Templates, expand Windows Components, and then click Windows 
Update.

 2.  In the details pane, click Specify Intranet Microsoft update service 
location.

 3.  Click Enabled and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the Set 
the intranet update service for detecting updates box and in the Set the 
intranet statistics server box. For example, type http(s)://servername in both 
boxes.

 4.  Click OK.


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the group 
policy that gets updated)...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price 
mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com>> wrote:
A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never documented 
where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where it is located 
if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another team in another 
office).


















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R2 VSS backup issue

[Chipshead]

2008 R2 server using  VSS to backup Exchange 2010 to a network shared folder. 
Backups ran fine until this past Monday. They now fail consistently with " The 
backup operation that started at '‎2010‎-‎03‎-‎25T20:37:30.509267500Z' has 
failed with following error code '2147943530' (Not enough server storage is 
available to process this command.). Please review the event details for a 
solution, and then rerun the backup operation once the issue is resolved." Size 
of backup set is @ 100 GB. Target shared network backup folder resides on a 
drive with 1 TB free. Sever hosting shared backup folder is also a media server 
for Backup Exec 2010. 2008 VSS backup has been running fine while network 
backups run. 2008 R2 server has @ 100 GB free on C:\. Event log, Google and 
technet seems useless. Tried creating an differnt folder to backup to with no 
sucess. I'm thinking it may be some sort of a conflict with BU Exec but I 
question why iot started happening this past Monday when previously it was 
backin up fine. Any input appreciated. 

Thanks. 

Steve
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RE: printer redirection woes

[James Hill]

What version of terminal server?

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 5:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: printer redirection woes

Hi all,

We have a client a terminal server.  They have a laserjet 1320 USB 
printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop.  The user 
now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. 

It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's 
website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP 
Universal Driver.  Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS 
printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an 
additional driver for x64.  It errors and says that a driver can't be 
found for the requested processor architecture.

Am I screwed here?  Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here?

Thanks.

Bill

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~   ~

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~   ~

Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Jonathan Link]

Or, if it's serving updates, wouldn't it be in a GPO?

   1.

   In Group Policy Object Editor, expand *Computer Configuration*,
expand *Administrative
   Templates*, expand *Windows Components*, and then click *Windows Update*.

   2.

   In the details pane, click *Specify Intranet Microsoft update service
   location*.
   3.

   Click *Enabled* and type the HTTP(S) URL of the same WSUS server in the *Set
   the intranet update service for detecting updates* box and in the *Set
   the intranet statistics server* box. For example, type *http(s):**
   //servername* in both boxes.
   4.

   Click *OK*.


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the
> group policy that gets updated)...
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price wrote:
>
>>  A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
>> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where
>> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another
>> team in another office).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Steve Ens]

There is a log file that you can find on your machine (if you are on the
group policy that gets updated)...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Klint Price wrote:

>  A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never
> documented where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where
> it is located if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another
> team in another office).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Detect Rogue WSUS Server

[Klint Price]

A co-worker installed WSUS on a server in our environment, but never documented 
where it was installed to.  What are my options to detect where it is located 
if I do not have access to the LAN or FW (managed by another team in another 
office).



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~   ~

Re: Equallogic and Sata

[Steve Ens]

Great replies, thanks to all.  We've been quoted over $35K (Canadian
rubles).

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM, N Parr  wrote:

>  I've had a PS5000 for a little over a year and just added a PS6000.  Both
> are running SATA drives.  Unless you're going to be running highly IO
> intensive DB operations then there's no need to even think about anything
> other than SATA.  I have our production and test SQL environments, 40 VM's
> (3 hosts), file shares and a few other things running on ours.  Our SQL
> performance literally doubled when I moved the DB's from local SAS 15k Raid
> 10 array to my PS5000 configured with Raid 10.  When we got our second array
> I reconfigured everything as raid 50 to get more space and performance
> stayed just the same.  Actually it improved because it's virtual storage and
> adding a second physical array just added another 16 drives so now my data
> is spread across all 32 drives and 4 controllers.  If you don't mind me
> asking what $ are they quoting you?
>
>  --
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Equallogic and Sata
>
>  I run SATA on the PS5000.  Two hosts, 8 VM's, exchange, SQL database,
> file sharing.
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
>> series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he
>> is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such
>> off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is the HP
>> P4000 G2 series.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Epic Fail

[Don Guyer]

Been in it off/on all day.

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com  

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Epic Fail

 

MSN launched a new home page yesterday.  Wonder if that could be causing
some issues?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
> "It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."
>
> BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme
has a
> routing glitch this morning.

 The Internet is a big place.  A network problem between
downforeveryoneorjustme and MSN could mean DFEOJM can't reach MSN but
you can.

 Additionally, most big online sites run multiple sites/clusters/etc.
 If the load balancer decides you're going to cluster XYZ and someone
else goes to cluster JKL, and cluster XYZ is down but JKL is up, you
can't get in but someone else can.

 I've also seen this cause more subtle differences.  For example, at
home, I sometimes get different Google search results vs at work.
Both on Comcast, within 30 miles of each other.

-- Ben


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Equallogic and Sata

[Kim Longenbaugh]

We have several EQ arrays here, all SATA, and like the other two
posters, enjoy good performance from them.

Some people will drag out the old adage about SATA drives not being as
reliable as SAS or plain SCSI drives, but that has not been our
experience with the EQ drives.  

 

 



From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Equallogic and Sata

 

I've had a PS5000 for a little over a year and just added a PS6000.
Both are running SATA drives.  Unless you're going to be running highly
IO intensive DB operations then there's no need to even think about
anything other than SATA.  I have our production and test SQL
environments, 40 VM's (3 hosts), file shares and a few other things
running on ours.  Our SQL performance literally doubled when I moved the
DB's from local SAS 15k Raid 10 array to my PS5000 configured with Raid
10.  When we got our second array I reconfigured everything as raid 50
to get more space and performance stayed just the same.  Actually it
improved because it's virtual storage and adding a second physical array
just added another 16 drives so now my data is spread across all 32
drives and 4 controllers.  If you don't mind me asking what $ are they
quoting you?

 



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Equallogic and Sata

I run SATA on the PS5000.  Two hosts, 8 VM's, exchange, SQL database,
file sharing.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as
he is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and
such off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is
the HP P4000 G2 series.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Sherry Abercrombie]

MSN launched a new home page yesterday.  Wonder if that could be causing
some issues?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
>  wrote:
> > "It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."
> >
> > BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme
> has a
> > routing glitch this morning.
>
>   The Internet is a big place.  A network problem between
> downforeveryoneorjustme and MSN could mean DFEOJM can't reach MSN but
> you can.
>
>  Additionally, most big online sites run multiple sites/clusters/etc.
>  If the load balancer decides you're going to cluster XYZ and someone
> else goes to cluster JKL, and cluster XYZ is down but JKL is up, you
> can't get in but someone else can.
>
>  I've also seen this cause more subtle differences.  For example, at
> home, I sometimes get different Google search results vs at work.
> Both on Comcast, within 30 miles of each other.
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Equallogic and Sata

[N Parr]

I've had a PS5000 for a little over a year and just added a PS6000.
Both are running SATA drives.  Unless you're going to be running highly
IO intensive DB operations then there's no need to even think about
anything other than SATA.  I have our production and test SQL
environments, 40 VM's (3 hosts), file shares and a few other things
running on ours.  Our SQL performance literally doubled when I moved the
DB's from local SAS 15k Raid 10 array to my PS5000 configured with Raid
10.  When we got our second array I reconfigured everything as raid 50
to get more space and performance stayed just the same.  Actually it
improved because it's virtual storage and adding a second physical array
just added another 16 drives so now my data is spread across all 32
drives and 4 controllers.  If you don't mind me asking what $ are they
quoting you?



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Equallogic and Sata


I run SATA on the PS5000.  Two hosts, 8 VM's, exchange, SQL database,
file sharing.


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:


Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic
P4000 series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA
(16TB) as he is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual
machines and such off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My
other option is the HP P4000 G2 series.  

 


 






 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Equallogic and Sata

[Jonathan Link]

I run SATA on the PS5000.  Two hosts, 8 VM's, exchange, SQL database, file
sharing.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
> series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he
> is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such
> off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is the HP
> P4000 G2 series.
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
> "It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."
>
> BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme has a
> routing glitch this morning.

  The Internet is a big place.  A network problem between
downforeveryoneorjustme and MSN could mean DFEOJM can't reach MSN but
you can.

  Additionally, most big online sites run multiple sites/clusters/etc.
 If the load balancer decides you're going to cluster XYZ and someone
else goes to cluster JKL, and cluster XYZ is down but JKL is up, you
can't get in but someone else can.

  I've also seen this cause more subtle differences.  For example, at
home, I sometimes get different Google search results vs at work.
Both on Comcast, within 30 miles of each other.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Equallogic and Sata

[Steve Ens]

Anyone have experience running the SATA option in the equallogic P4000
series?  My vendor is quoting me the exact same price for SATA (16TB) as he
is for 7.2TB of SAS.  I'll be running snapshots, virtual machines and such
off the SAN.  Any experience with these models?  My other option is the HP
P4000 G2 series.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

printer redirection woes

[Bill Humphries]

Hi all,

We have a client a terminal server.  They have a laserjet 1320 USB 
printer that printer redirection works fine on old XP laptop.  The user 
now has a Win7 x64 laptop and of course they cannot now print. 

It looks like the driver for that printer is built into Win7. On HP's 
website, the only driver available for this under Win7 x64 is their HP 
Universal Driver.  Just for kicks, I went to the sharing tab on the TS 
printer and tried to upload any of the Universal Driver inf files as an 
additional driver for x64.  It errors and says that a driver can't be 
found for the requested processor architecture.


Am I screwed here?  Anyone know of a way to get this printer to work here?

Thanks.

Bill

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Adaptec RAID 3405 Any used this raid card?

[jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]

Adaptec RAID 3405
Does this work windows x64 2003 or 2008, it I see only 2003 2008 and xp 
x64


I don't see x64 version for a server os.
I see this " 17 Mar 2010 Adaptec RAID Driver v5.2.0.17335 for Windows, 
Microsoft Certified AACRAID Driver v5.2.0.17335 for Windows Server 2008, 
Windows 7, Vista, Server 2003, and XP x64, Microsoft Certified   "


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

Great blog, thanks MBS.

 

 

-sc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 

 

 

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~   ~

RE: MSN down.

[paul d]

That was great.  Never saw that one before.  

> Subject: RE: MSN down.
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:23:24 -0400
> From: david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> 
> That original episode is a classic!
> ;)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: MSN down.
> 
> On 25 Mar 2010 at 12:18, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/
> > 
> > Episode 1
> 
> I did NOT need that this morning ... I have WORK to do. ;-)
> 
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
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> 
> .
> 
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> ~   ~
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Re: How would you go about this?

[Andrew S. Baker]

LOL

-ASB


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> I love this list!
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hey, I just said the same thi….. WAIT….
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah!
>>
>>
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:41 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: How would you go about this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Independent corroboration is never superfluous!
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)
>>
>>
>> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
>> scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:
>>
>>  We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
>> particular of which having been a significant number of applications
>> being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
>> platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
>> will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.
>>
>> For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
>> (often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).
>>
>> With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
>> on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
>> migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
>> old.
>>
>> The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
>> boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
>> likely be much more fluid...
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> >
>>
>> > +1.
>> > While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
>> that's no
>> > longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
>> and
>> > migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
>> or so to
>> > upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
>> > We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
>> > some of them are ugly.
>> >
>> > ***
>> > Charlie Kaiser
>> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
>> > Kingman, AZ
>> > ***
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>>
>> > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>> > > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
>> > > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
>> > > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
>> > > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
>> replace
>> > > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
>> > > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
>> over
>> > > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
>> > > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
>> > > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
>> new
>> > > server in many if not most cases.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
>> > > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
>> So
>> > > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
>> be
>> > > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
>> > > upgrades
>> > >
>> > > Erik Goldoff
>> > >
>> > > IT  Consultant
>> > >
>> > > Systems, Networks, & Security
>> > >
>> > > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>> > >
>>
>> > > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
>> > > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
>> all
>> > > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
>> > > workstations and servers.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
>> is
>> > > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
>> > > Thanks for your help.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > >
>>

RE: MSN down.

[David Mazzaccaro]

That original episode is a classic!
;)


-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MSN down.

On 25 Mar 2010 at 12:18, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:

> 
> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/
> 
> Episode 1

I did NOT need that this morning ... I have WORK to do. ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: MSN down.

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 25 Mar 2010 at 12:18, Thomas W Shinder  wrote:

> 
> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/
> 
> Episode 1

I did NOT need that this morning ... I have WORK to do. ;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 25 Mar 2010 at 8:33, John Aldrich  wrote:

> 
> Still on the old version of Vipre Enterprise (waiting for more bugs to be
> squished. J) This morning I got a warning about some stuff on HP computers.
> I´m pretty sure it´s going to be a false positive, but I thought I´d ask if
> anyone else is having problems with stuff under
> c:\hp\recovery\wizard\fscommand John-AldrichTile-Tools 

I saw 4 or 5 machines on a 40 machine network with new warnings in the console 
when I checked remotely this morning.  I quickly previewed them; ISTR three 
machines had identical new detections in their Recycle Bins; the file was 
called something like Mx??Eng.exe.  ISTR one, an HP, had a bunch of hits in its 
Recovery Partition.  I haven't had a chance to get to the office yet to submit 
them to VirusTotal and then to falsepositi...@sunbeltsoftware.com ...  

Angus

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven Peck]

Some aren't.  The root domain servers are not.  Server are but they
all peer and do their thing.  It's been working fine for years now.
We definitely don't sync using the vmware tools.  Primarily becuase we
had problems long ago and now just don't trust it(never bothered to
try it now we have a method that works).  Doing it this way ensures
we're all consistent across platforms.  The mainframe, superdome and
unix guys all use the routers as well which we sync off of.  The
routers are all peered/sync'd etc
.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> OK, cool.
>
> Should I assume your DC's aren't VM's?
>
> -sc
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:31 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>>
>> We have our guests go to the DCs.  We sync our vmhosts to our DCs.
>> Our DCs sync to our routers and the routers sync to the external
> sources.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Steven M. Caesare
>>  wrote:
>> > That seems about what I recall too... thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No, I let the PDCe go to the same time source as the ESX boxes. I
> got
>> > warned against using the VMWare Tools synchronisation for the
> guests,
>> > by people on the list I think. Can't remember the reason though -
>> > maybe something to do with hardware interrupts tickles the memory,
> for
>> some reason?
>> >
>> > On 25 March 2010 14:53, Steven M. Caesare 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > And do you sync the DC to it's host VM via VMWare tools?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM
>> >
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
>> > whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.
>> >
>> > On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or
> your
>> > VM hosts to all sync with NTP.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
>> > ESXi host they live on.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to
>> > sync with DC (also a guest).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC
>> > should directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock
>> > corrected by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi
>> > server sync with an NTP source instead?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -sc
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>> > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
> am
>> > not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
>> > could provoke such a question."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
>> > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
> am
>> > not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
>> > could provoke such a question."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>>   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Kurt Buff]

Not downforeveryoneorjustme - many people, including my site. No name
resolution for MSN.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:02, Angus Scott-Fleming  wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2010 at 9:44, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> No host resolution:
>>
>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.msn.com
>
> "It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."
>
> BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme has a
> routing glitch this morning.
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Epic Fail

[John Aldrich]

Yep. I'm the same here... it's loading for me, so it looks like it's just
down fro downforeveryoneorjustme.com. :-)




-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Epic Fail

On 25 Mar 2010 at 9:44, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> No host resolution:
> 
> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.msn.com

"It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."

BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme has a 
routing glitch this morning.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Epic Fail

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 25 Mar 2010 at 9:44, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> No host resolution:
> 
> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.msn.com

"It's not just you! http://www.msn.com  looks down from here."

BUT I can load msn.com just fine.  Looks like downforeveryoneorjustme has a 
routing glitch this morning.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How would you go about this?

[Jonathan Link]

I love this list!

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Hey, I just said the same thi….. WAIT….
>
>
>
> Yeah!
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:41 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: How would you go about this?
>
>
>
> Independent corroboration is never superfluous!
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)
>
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>
>  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
>  We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
> particular of which having been a significant number of applications
> being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
> platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
> will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.
>
> For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
> (often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).
>
> With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
> on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
> migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
> old.
>
> The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
> boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
> likely be much more fluid...
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
>
> > +1.
> > While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
> that's no
> > longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
> and
> > migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
> or so to
> > upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
> > We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
> > some of them are ugly.
> >
> > ***
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
> > Kingman, AZ
> > ***
> >
> > > -Original Message-
>
> > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> > > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
> > > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
> > > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
> > > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
> replace
> > > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
> > > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
> over
> > > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
> > > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
> > > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
> new
> > > server in many if not most cases.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
> > > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
> So
> > > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
> be
> > > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
> > > upgrades
> > >
> > > Erik Goldoff
> > >
> > > IT  Consultant
> > >
> > > Systems, Networks, & Security
> > >
> > > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
> > >
>
> > > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
> > > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
> all
> > > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
> > > workstations and servers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
> is
> > > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick
> apart
> > > your request.
> > >
> > > We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.
> > > There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear
>

RE: How would you go about this?

[Steven M. Caesare]

Hey, I just said the same thi. WAIT

 

Yeah!

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How would you go about this?

 

Independent corroboration is never superfluous! 

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
wrote:

Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :) 


-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of
reasons, one
particular of which having been a significant number of
applications
being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems ,
as they
will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.

For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of
them
(often bumping up the resources available to them in the
process).

With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM
servers
on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's
and/or
migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly
retiring the
old.

The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the
physical
boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host
will
likely be much more fluid...

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>

> +1.
> While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the
norm,
that's no
> longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS
license,
and
> migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to
pay $10
or so to
> upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's
old.
> We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used
to, and
> some of them are ugly.
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
> > -Original Message-

> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
> > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the
help."
> >
> >
> >

> > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
> > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially
in the
> > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of
my
> > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them
to
replace
> > a server that is currently working as expected with new
hardware
> > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in
features
over
> > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers
that I see
> > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to
data
> > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an
entirely
new
> > server in many if not most cases.
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors
including
> > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this
year.
So
> > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes
*will*
be
> > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with
hardware
> > upgrades
> >
> > Erik Goldoff
> >
> > IT  Consultant
> >
> > Systems, Networks, & Security
> >
> > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
> >

> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
> >
> >
> > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the
help. I was
> > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I
replace
all
> > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only
have 130
> > workstations and servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the
Museum. That
is
> > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
> > Tha

RE: How would you go about this?

[Steven M. Caesare]

I prefer to think of it as:

 

"A consensus of opinion from great minds lend validity to the proposed
solution."

 

-sc

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How would you go about this?

 

Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)


-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker



On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
particular of which having been a significant number of applications
being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.

For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
(often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).

With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
old.

The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
likely be much more fluid...

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>
> +1.
> While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
that's no
> longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
and
> migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
or so to
> upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
> We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
> some of them are ugly.
>
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
> > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
> >
> >
> >
> > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
> > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
> > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
> > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
replace
> > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
> > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
over
> > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
> > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
> > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
new
> > server in many if not most cases.
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
> > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
So
> > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
be
> > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
> > upgrades
> >
> > Erik Goldoff
> >
> > IT  Consultant
> >
> > Systems, Networks, & Security
> >
> > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
> >
> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
> >
> >
> > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
> > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
all
> > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
> > workstations and servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
is
> > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick
apart
> > your request.
> >
> > We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.
> > There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear
> > growth or geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB
> > of data per year.  With geometric you're doubling your data every
~19
> > months.  So, if you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed
> > life of a
> > server) you're at either +625 GB of data or over 8 TB of data.
> >
> > Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, a server
> > is the least of your storage concerns if you're doubling your data
> > every 19 mon

OTish: MS Dynamics SL consultant

[Kevin Lundy]

Searching for a friend of mine.  Any Dynamics SL consultants in the DC/MD
area to help with a few problems on an existing installation?

Replies off list please and I will put you in contact.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How would you go about this?

[Andrew S. Baker]

Fair enough. :)   It also helps to read more than one post before replying,
when you come into a thread with quite a few posts.  LOL

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Independent corroboration is never superfluous!
>
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)
>>
>> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare <
>> scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
>>> particular of which having been a significant number of applications
>>> being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
>>> platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
>>> will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.
>>>
>>> For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
>>> (often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).
>>>
>>> With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
>>> on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
>>> migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
>>> old.
>>>
>>> The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
>>> boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
>>> likely be much more fluid...
>>>
>>> -sc
>>>
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>>> >
>>> > +1.
>>> > While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
>>> that's no
>>> > longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
>>> and
>>> > migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
>>> or so to
>>> > upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
>>> > We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
>>> > some of them are ugly.
>>> >
>>> > ***
>>> > Charlie Kaiser
>>> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
>>> > Kingman, AZ
>>> > ***
>>> >
>>> > > -Original Message-
>>> > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>>> > >
>>> > > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>  > > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
>>> > > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
>>> > > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
>>> > > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
>>> replace
>>> > > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
>>> > > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
>>> over
>>> > > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
>>> > > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
>>> > > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
>>> new
>>> > > server in many if not most cases.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
>>> > > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
>>> So
>>> > > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
>>> be
>>> > > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
>>> > > upgrades
>>> > >
>>> > > Erik Goldoff
>>> > >
>>> > > IT  Consultant
>>> > >
>>> > > Systems, Networks, & Security
>>> > >
>>> > > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>>> > >
>>>  > > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
>>> > > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
>>> all
>>> > > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
>>> > > workstations and servers.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
>>> is
>>> > > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
>>> > > Thanks for your help.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick
>>> apart
>>> > > your request.
>>> > >

Re: How would you go about this?

[Jonathan Link]

Independent corroboration is never superfluous!

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>
>
>  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare  > wrote:
>
>> We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
>> particular of which having been a significant number of applications
>> being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
>> platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
>> will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.
>>
>> For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
>> (often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).
>>
>> With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
>> on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
>> migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
>> old.
>>
>> The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
>> boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
>> likely be much more fluid...
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> >
>> > +1.
>> > While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
>> that's no
>> > longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
>> and
>> > migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
>> or so to
>> > upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
>> > We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
>> > some of them are ugly.
>> >
>> > ***
>> > Charlie Kaiser
>> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
>> > Kingman, AZ
>> > ***
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>  > > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
>> > > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
>> > > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
>> > > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
>> replace
>> > > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
>> > > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
>> over
>> > > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
>> > > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
>> > > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
>> new
>> > > server in many if not most cases.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
>> > > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
>> So
>> > > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
>> be
>> > > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
>> > > upgrades
>> > >
>> > > Erik Goldoff
>> > >
>> > > IT  Consultant
>> > >
>> > > Systems, Networks, & Security
>> > >
>> > > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>> > >
>>  > > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
>> > > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
>> all
>> > > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
>> > > workstations and servers.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
>> is
>> > > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
>> > > Thanks for your help.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick
>> apart
>> > > your request.
>> > >
>> > > We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.
>> > > There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear
>> > > growth or geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB
>> > > of data per year.  With geometric you're doubling your data every
>> ~19
>> > > months.  So, if you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed
>> >

Computer lifecycle (was: How would you go about this?)

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Cameron Cooper  wrote:
> Lucky… we’re pushing seven years with web and sql servers.  Still have some
> desktops that are at least 9 years old.

  We've got a 7 year old server that's still doing print services.
Gonna have to migrate that when we get off Win 2000 in a couple
months.

  We've got a couple desktops that are about 10 years old.  XP Pro
running with 384 MB RAM on a 700 MHz CPU.  Real speed demons, they
are.  They're on the factory floor, and don't do much (which is good,
because they can't do much!).

  We've got a couple ancient 486 machines that are acting as what
would be called "thin clients" these days.  They're so old nobody
knows how old they are.  As they die off they're replaced with more
modern solutions.

  We don't replace things just because Dell or Microsoft says they're
old.  If they're doing the job, there's no ROI in replacing them.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: How would you go about this?

[Andrew S. Baker]

Thanks for making my commentary superfluous, SC.  :)

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> We have seem extended server life as well, for a variety of reasons, one
> particular of which having been a significant number of applications
> being deprecated, and the development effort is happening on new
> platforms, so there's no incentive to upgrade the old systems , as they
> will be EOL'ed once the user base is migrated.
>
> For boxes that may have been failing, we simply VM'ed many of them
> (often bumping up the resources available to them in the process).
>
> With the advent of virtualization, I see us adding/upgrading VM servers
> on a semi-regular basis, increasing the resources given to VM's and/or
> migrating the heaviest ones to the new boxes, and slowly retiring the
> old.
>
> The life cycle I suspect look similar to what it did for the physical
> boxes (3-5 yrs with some maint. Costs), but the VM's they host will
> likely be much more fluid...
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> >
> > +1.
> > While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the norm,
> that's no
> > longer the case. By the time you put together server cost, OS license,
> and
> > migration consulting costs, a small business is unwilling to pay $10
> or so to
> > upgrade their SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
> > We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we used to, and
> > some of them are ugly.
> >
> > ***
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > charl...@golden-eagle.org
> > Kingman, AZ
> > ***
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic
> > > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the
> > > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my
> > > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them to
> replace
> > > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware
> > > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in features
> over
> > > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers that I see
> > > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data
> > > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an entirely
> new
> > > server in many if not most cases.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including
> > > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th this year.
> So
> > > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes *will*
> be
> > > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware
> > > upgrades
> > >
> > > Erik Goldoff
> > >
> > > IT  Consultant
> > >
> > > Systems, Networks, & Security
> > >
> > > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
> > >
> > > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
> > > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace
> all
> > > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
> > > workstations and servers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That
> is
> > > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
> > > Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick
> apart
> > > your request.
> > >
> > > We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.
> > > There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear
> > > growth or geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB
> > > of data per year.  With geometric you're doubling your data every
> ~19
> > > months.  So, if you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed
> > > life of a
> > > server) you're at either +625 GB of data or over 8 TB of data.
> > >
> > > Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, a server
> > > is the least of your storage concerns if you're doubling your data
> > > every 19 months or so.
> > >
> > > On Wed

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

OK, cool.

Should I assume your DC's aren't VM's?

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
> 
> We have our guests go to the DCs.  We sync our vmhosts to our DCs.
> Our DCs sync to our routers and the routers sync to the external
sources.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Steven M. Caesare
>  wrote:
> > That seems about what I recall too... thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
> >
> >
> >
> > No, I let the PDCe go to the same time source as the ESX boxes. I
got
> > warned against using the VMWare Tools synchronisation for the
guests,
> > by people on the list I think. Can't remember the reason though -
> > maybe something to do with hardware interrupts tickles the memory,
for
> some reason?
> >
> > On 25 March 2010 14:53, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
> >
> > And do you sync the DC to it's host VM via VMWare tools?
> >
> >
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
> >
> > From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
> >
> >
> >
> > I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
> > whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.
> >
> > On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
> >
> > OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or
your
> > VM hosts to all sync with NTP.
> >
> >
> >
> > Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
> > ESXi host they live on.
> >
> >
> >
> > IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to
> > sync with DC (also a guest).
> >
> >
> >
> > What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC
> > should directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock
> > corrected by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi
> > server sync with an NTP source instead?
> >
> >
> >
> > -sc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
> > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am
> > not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
> > could provoke such a question."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
> > into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am
> > not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
> > could provoke such a question."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: How would you go about this?

[Jeff Johnson]

Same here, 7-10 years on some servers, including SQL.  Man Server 2000 is great!

Just wish I had the budget to can all 10 of my servers and get two rockin' 
machines and virtualize everything.  The second would be for hot moves/failover 
to a data room 300 ft away connected with fiber.

Jeff Johnson
Systems Administrator
714-773-2600 Office
714-773-6351 Fax
[cid:image001.jpg@01CACC06.70820640]

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

Lucky... we're pushing seven years with web and sql servers.  Still have some 
desktops that are at least 9 years old.

_
Cameron Cooper
Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

What's the deal?  We typically get 5 years out of our servers also.

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was just 
looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my 
workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations 
and servers.

Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why I am 
splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help...

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How would you go about this?

I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick apart your 
request.
We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.  There are 
two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear growth or geometric 
growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB of data per year.  With 
geometric you're doubling your data every ~19 months.  So, if you expect the 
same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed life of a server) you're at either +625 
GB of data or over 8 TB of data.
Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, a server is the 
least of your storage concerns if you're doubling your data every 19 months or 
so.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Holstrom, Don 
mailto:dholst...@nbm.org>> wrote:
I have a file server that has gone above 1 TB. When I first came here to the 
museum a few years ago (8), they had 33 gigs of data on one server. I brought 
in file tape backups until last year when the backup went out of that range.

I always used SCSI RAIDs but even now that is a bit high.

So

I have ordered a new file server with six HD openings. I am figuring a pair of 
10,000-rpm 150 or 300 gig HDs for the OS, I can go Server 03 or 08, figuring on 
08. I would back up one with the other. Then for data, two 2TBS backed up for 
the main data and two 1.5 or less for other data, also backed up. Then I 
could/would backup to external 2TB drives for longevity.

What thinkist thee? Is there another way I should go? Data here will continue 
to increase at the same rate...



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<>

Re: How would you go about this?

[Andrew S. Baker]

+5

I find that 4-5 years is the norm, especially with the recent (and still
very fresh or current for some people) recession in mind.At 3 years, you
haven't even fully amortized the hardware yet.

One thing that virtualization is going to help with going forward is
isolating hardware and i/o improvements from the applications that sit on
top of it.  It is much easier to add incremental hardware and migrate the
most critical VMs to it, thereby gaining significant performance
improvements for those apps, and modest performance improvements for servers
and apps which are left behind on the older-and-now-less-burdened host
servers.

Virtualizing both storage and servers is the way to go.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> A file server is probably a good candidate for a longer life cycle than
> most servers.  It needs good memory, good storage, and good network
> capability.  As long as you can maintain a support contract on the box, I'd
> keep it in service.
>
> That being said, you indicate my growth estimate is OK, but you don't
> indicate which one.  If youre growth is linear, any file server you pick
> (and almost any size disk) is fine.  However, if you're experiencing
> exponential data growth, then you're going to be around 4 TB of data by the
> end of life of your server.  My contention is that the server is becoming
> immaterial to your storage problem.  Looking at a SAN or NAS now, could save
> you considerable headaches in the future.  I didn't say it like that (Jon
> Harris already had), but I was trying to lead you there.  Splitting data to
> different HD's/devices/servers will actually make you go crazy.  My current
> data store (which is split among servers) is roughly 1 TB, before I
> virtualized storage, storage was probably my biggest headache, I never seemd
> to have enough where I needed it.  Now if I need more, I allocate more and
> I'm done.  if I need more capacity (which I do), I order more/bigger disks
> or could order another unit.
>
> If I replaced all my servers every three years, I'd be hard pressed to do
> some of the other things I'm interested in doing or are better for the
> firm.  That being said, I do replace workstations (notebooks) every three
> years.
>  On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:
>
>>  You get five years out of a server? I think *you* need the help. I was
>> just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my
>> workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 workstations
>> and servers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is why
>> I am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: How would you go about this?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick apart
>> your request.
>>
>> We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.  There
>> are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear growth or
>> geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB of data per
>> year.  With geometric you're doubling your data every ~19 months.  So, if
>> you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed life of a server)
>> you're at either +625 GB of data or over 8 TB of data.
>>
>> Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, a server is
>> the least of your storage concerns if you're doubling your data every 19
>> months or so.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Holstrom, Don  wrote:
>>
>> I have a file server that has gone above 1 TB. When I first came here to
>> the museum a few years ago (8), they had 33 gigs of data on one server. I
>> brought in file tape backups until last year when the backup went out of
>> that range.
>>
>> I always used SCSI RAIDs but even now that is a bit high.
>>
>> So
>>
>> I have ordered a new file server with six HD openings. I am figuring a
>> pair of 10,000-rpm 150 or 300 gig HDs for the OS, I can go Server 03 or 08,
>> figuring on 08. I would back up one with the other. Then for data, two 2TBS
>> backed up for the main data and two 1.5 or less for other data, also backed
>> up. Then I could/would backup to external 2TB drives for longevity.
>>
>> What thinkist thee? Is there another way I should go? Data here will
>> continue to increase at the same rate...
>>
>>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven Peck]

We have our guests go to the DCs.  We sync our vmhosts to our DCs.
Our DCs sync to our routers and the routers sync to the external
sources.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:
> That seems about what I recall too… thanks.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>
>
>
> No, I let the PDCe go to the same time source as the ESX boxes. I got warned
> against using the VMWare Tools synchronisation for the guests, by people on
> the list I think. Can't remember the reason though - maybe something to do
> with hardware interrupts tickles the memory, for some reason?
>
> On 25 March 2010 14:53, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
> And do you sync the DC to it’s host VM via VMWare tools?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>
>
>
> I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know whether
> it is "right" but i never have any time issues.
>
> On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
> OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.
>
>
>
> Time services… you can set your guest servers, your guest DC’s or your VM
> hosts to all sync with NTP.
>
>
>
> Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the ESXi
> host they live on.
>
>
>
> IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
> with DC (also a guest).
>
>
>
> What I can’t find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
> directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected by
> the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with an NTP
> source instead?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

That seems about what I recall too... thanks.

 

-sc

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

No, I let the PDCe go to the same time source as the ESX boxes. I got
warned against using the VMWare Tools synchronisation for the guests, by
people on the list I think. Can't remember the reason though - maybe
something to do with hardware interrupts tickles the memory, for some
reason?

On 25 March 2010 14:53, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

And do you sync the DC to it's host VM via VMWare tools?

 

-sc

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.

On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 






-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

 

 




-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: How would you go about this?

[Cameron Cooper]

Lucky... we're pushing seven years with web and sql servers.  Still have
some desktops that are at least 9 years old.

 

_

Cameron Cooper

Network Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

 

What's the deal?  We typically get 5 years out of our servers also.

 

From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

 

You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help. I was
just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I replace all my
workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130
workstations and servers.

 

Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the Museum. That is
why I am splitting the data onto several HDs. Thanks for your help...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How would you go about this?

 

I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to pick apart
your request.

We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.
There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear
growth or geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding about 125 GB of
data per year.  With geometric you're doubling your data every ~19
months.  So, if you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years (assumed
life of a server) you're at either +625 GB of data or over 8 TB of data.

Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, a server is
the least of your storage concerns if you're doubling your data every 19
months or so.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Holstrom, Don 
wrote:

I have a file server that has gone above 1 TB. When I first came here to
the museum a few years ago (8), they had 33 gigs of data on one server.
I brought in file tape backups until last year when the backup went out
of that range.

I always used SCSI RAIDs but even now that is a bit high.

So

I have ordered a new file server with six HD openings. I am figuring a
pair of 10,000-rpm 150 or 300 gig HDs for the OS, I can go Server 03 or
08, figuring on 08. I would back up one with the other. Then for data,
two 2TBS backed up for the main data and two 1.5 or less for other data,
also backed up. Then I could/would backup to external 2TB drives for
longevity.

What thinkist thee? Is there another way I should go? Data here will
continue to increase at the same rate...



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: MSN down.

[Thomas W Shinder]

http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/

 

Episode 1

 

From: Sharie Breaux [mailto:sharielbre...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MSN down.

 

I've got them to the point that they ask "Is the Internet down?" and
that took alot.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM, David Mazzaccaro
 wrote:

Arghh... Get ready... trying to get users to understand that this
doesn't mean the whole internet is down... 
Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)


.

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTbackup Methods

[Kurt Buff]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 04:57, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Greg Wright
>  wrote:
>> Anyone seen anything like that they can explain better than I have?
>> Anyone up for the maths challenge to come up with it again?!?!
>
>  Sounds vaguely like Towers of Hanoi, but that doesn't address wear.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme#Towers_of_Hanoi
>
> -- Ben
>

Dang - beat me to it.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Michael B. Smith]

My blog post links to the vmware best practice papers.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

Right, using the NIST serves.

So you are suggesting syncing the PDCE and ESX boxes to an NTP server, but 
don't tie them together via the VMWare tools?

-sc

From: Michael Tellson [mailto:micha...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

Also ensure your PDCE domain controller and your ESX hosts use the same time 
source to sync to.  And never user time.windows.com (the default).

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know whether it 
is "right" but i never have any time issues.
On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare 
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>> wrote:
OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your VM 
hosts to all sync with NTP.

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the ESXi host 
they live on.

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync with 
DC (also a guest).

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should 
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected by the 
VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with an NTP source 
instead?

-sc







--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Alternatives to DFS

[Jim von Stein]

Can you give a rough idea of the cost of this? It looks very interesting,
but we're a non-profit (which means non-budget) organization.

Jim von Stein
Information Services Administrator
SOASTC
 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Schwarz [mailto:pschw...@syndeotech.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Alternatives to DFS

We use Globalscape WAFS with one Client distributed over 4 locations with
broadband connections and approx. 200GB of documents. It works well.
Globalscape support is great, too.
http://www.globalscape.com/wafs/

Peter Schwarz


-Original Message-
From: Des Waugh [mailto:d...@charanda.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 9:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Alternatives to DFS

 Hi
Anyone using 3rd party replication software
I am open to suggestions
I have a customer with 7 offices currently using 6 x WIN2K3R2 std and a
WIN2K8R2 server with MS DFS relication
I am looking for a more reliable system as the current setup is removing
files into the conflict and deleted folders when it shouldn't ie the
customer keeps "losing" files
Inter office links vary from 1 x 2M/2M SHDSL at main office to 512/512
ADLS links at regional smaller offices
Win2k8 server is located with their ISP and network is setup as a
private IP network.
Approx 160GB data is shared between offices
DFS itself is not enabled just the replication
Thanks Des

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

Right, using the NIST serves.

 

So you are suggesting syncing the PDCE and ESX boxes to an NTP server,
but don't tie them together via the VMWare tools?

 

-sc

 

From: Michael Tellson [mailto:micha...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

Also ensure your PDCE domain controller and your ESX hosts use the same
time source to sync to.  And never user time.windows.com (the default).

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.

On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 




-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Alex Eckelberry]

Noted.

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

+1
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Alex. It would be nice to know if they are true F/Ps or are actual 
threats.

[cid:image001.jpg@01CACC19.F45154E0][cid:image002@01cacc19.f45154e0]

From: Alex Eckelberry 
[mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

Those reports that you submit from the console do get read and acted upon.

I will check into this report.


Alex


From: John Aldrich 
[mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

Interesting. I posted on the Sunbelt forum as well, so maybe I'll hear 
something back. I don't recall ever hearing anything back from Sunbelt if I 
just submit the suspected false-positives to Sunbelt from the console.

[cid:image001.jpg@01CACC19.F45154E0][cid:image002@01cacc19.f45154e0]

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 
[mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning


All our dellephants are working fine this morning.  HOWEVER, 16 of these 
workstations were built with a DVD our help desk person made (slipstreamed 
w/SP3 and MS patches to date).  It seems some OEM drivers, most of which are in 
the .\i386 folder, are being flagged.  To date, we've had two NVidia and one 
Creative Labs driver set off alarms.  (For some reason, VIPRE sends me two 
notices for each alarm.  It's just So Much Fun to wake up and see 32 VIPRE 
events!
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
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"John Aldrich" 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote on 
03/25/2010 07:33:49 AM:

> Still on the old version of Vipre Enterprise (waiting for more bugs
> to be squished. J) This morning I got a warning about some stuff on
> HP computers. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a false positive, but
> I thought I'd ask if anyone else is having problems with stuff under
> c:\hp\recovery\wizard\fscommand
>
> [image removed] [image removed]
>
>
>






















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~   ~<><>

RE: [AKO Warning - Message fails DKIM verification] Fwd: Fun little phishing game (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Kent, Larry CTR US USA]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

Who is going to post it to  pleaserobme.com ? J

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [AKO Warning - Message fails DKIM verification] Fwd: Fun little
phishing game (VeriSign)

 

Nice Brian, glad to know that you are out of town, which happens to be
in the Chicago area based on the area code for your phone that you so
nicely listed for us..

-- Forwarded message --
From: Brian Desmond 
Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:09 PM
Subject:  Fun little phishing game (VeriSign)
To: Sherry Abercrombie 

Hi-

 

I am traveling internationally from Tuesday 03/24 until Monday 04/05. I
will be checking email and voicemail periodically during my absence,
however you should expect extended delays in my response.  I will return
to the office on Tuesday 04/06.

 

If this is an emergency, please call my mobile phone at 312.731.3132.

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTbackup Methods

[Kurt Buff]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme#Five-Tape_Hanoi_Schedule

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 22:54, Greg Wright
 wrote:
> I have seen (but would have GREAT difficulty replicating) a backup tape
> rotation scheme that evenly (give or take a few writes here and there)
> utilised 14 (I think it was, maybe 17) tapes over the year, with
> specific tapes over the cycle enabling rollback to comprehensive
> historical timeframes.
>
> The result was it was possible to restore previous 5 days along with a
> number of weeks, then a number of months ending the year with a yearly
> tape. It worked to keep recent backups longer and gradually decreasing
> history over longer term and those histories were rotated back into use.
>
> It did require that during the cycle a few (3 or 4 I think) would get
> swapped between themselves to ensure the historical restore options were
> there. Ie; One day should have Tape 12 according to the series, but the
> tape needed became Tape 5 to reorient the series (I think!)
>
> I lost the spreadsheet that gave the rotation scheme, and I remember
> thinking you would struggle if you missed a particularly important
> backup (eg; a monthly) as it might put your scheme out of whack, and
> restoring would be a slightly more difficult experience as you would
> have to locate and confirm the correct tape number as the sequence was
> not 1, 2, 3...7,8 but more like 1,6,3,11,
>
> But in terms of minimising tape numbers and maximising (even) wear it
> was pretty impressive.
>
> Anyone seen anything like that they can explain better than I have?
> Anyone up for the maths challenge to come up with it again?!?!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2010 2:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: NTbackup Methods
>
> 
>
> "We do a simple "grandfather/father/son" rotation.  Four daily tapes,
> MON - THR, which get overwritten weekly.  Four Friday tapes, WK2 -
> WK5, overwritten monthly.  Eleven monthly tapes, JAN - NOV,
> overwritten yearly, run on the first Friday of each month.  Every year
> at the end of December, we run a tape which becomes a permanent
> archive, never overwritten.  This gives us staggered granularity to
> recover from "I just realized I need a file I overwrote last month"."
>
> 
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>

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~   ~

Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Eric Wittersheim]

+1

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:35 AM, John Aldrich  wrote:

>  Thanks, Alex. It would be nice to know if they are true F/Ps or are
> actual threats.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:33 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning
>
>
>
> Those reports that you submit from the console do get read and acted upon.
>
>
>
> I will check into this report.
>
>
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning
>
>
>
> Interesting. I posted on the Sunbelt forum as well, so maybe I’ll hear
> something back. I don’t recall ever hearing anything back from Sunbelt if I
> just submit the suspected false-positives to Sunbelt from the console.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools]
>
>
>
> *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:10 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning
>
>
>
>
> All our dellephants are working fine this morning.  HOWEVER, 16 of these
> workstations were built with a DVD our help desk person made (slipstreamed
> w/SP3 and MS patches to date).  It seems some OEM drivers, most of which are
> in the .\i386 folder, are being flagged.  To date, we've had two NVidia and
> one Creative Labs driver set off alarms.  (For some reason, VIPRE sends me
> two notices for each alarm.  It's just So Much Fun to wake up and see 32
> VIPRE events!
> --
> Richard D. McClary
> Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> *ASPCA®*
> 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> Urbana, IL  61802
>
> richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> P: 217-337-9761
> C: 217-417-1182
> F: 217-337-9761
> www.aspca.org
>
>
> The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
> from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA
> ®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may
> contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not
> the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any
> dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail,
> and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
> this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and
> permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout
> thereof.
>
>
> "John Aldrich"  wrote on 03/25/2010 07:33:49
> AM:
>
> > Still on the old version of Vipre Enterprise (waiting for more bugs
> > to be squished. J) This morning I got a warning about some stuff on
> > HP computers. I’m pretty sure it’s going to be a false positive, but
> > I thought I’d ask if anyone else is having problems with stuff under
> > c:\hp\recovery\wizard\fscommand….
> >
> > [image removed] [image removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[John Aldrich]

Thanks, Alex. It would be nice to know if they are true F/Ps or are actual
threats.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

 

Those reports that you submit from the console do get read and acted upon.

 

I will check into this report.

 

 

Alex

 

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

 

Interesting. I posted on the Sunbelt forum as well, so maybe I'll hear
something back. I don't recall ever hearing anything back from Sunbelt if I
just submit the suspected false-positives to Sunbelt from the console.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning

 


All our dellephants are working fine this morning.  HOWEVER, 16 of these
workstations were built with a DVD our help desk person made (slipstreamed
w/SP3 and MS patches to date).  It seems some OEM drivers, most of which are
in the .\i386 folder, are being flagged.  To date, we've had two NVidia and
one Creative Labs driver set off alarms.  (For some reason, VIPRE sends me
two notices for each alarm.  It's just So Much Fun to wake up and see 32
VIPRE events!
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCAR 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
C: 217-417-1182 
F: 217-337-9761 
  www.aspca.org 
  

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"John Aldrich"  wrote on 03/25/2010 07:33:49
AM:

> Still on the old version of Vipre Enterprise (waiting for more bugs 
> to be squished. J) This morning I got a warning about some stuff on 
> HP computers. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a false positive, but
> I thought I'd ask if anyone else is having problems with stuff under
> c:\hp\recovery\wizard\fscommand.. 
>   
> [image removed] [image removed] 
>   
>   
>   

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Well, if he's not able to follow the instructions, I'll get his graphics and
do it for him. J

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

 

That's what I would do (quick & easy), assuming he knows how to copy/paste.

 

 

 

  _  

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

Ok. Thanks. I figured it was something like that. J I have a nice graphical
"how-to" for 2003. I don't have the files he wants (similar to my sig) for
his signature. I suppose I could get 'em..

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

 

He probably f'd up making his sig.

 

1) Create the desired sig on your Outlook (exactly how he wants it)

2) Then send him an email (including the sig) so he can copy/paste it in a
new sig.

 

 

 

  _  

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 strangeness

One of my remote users (who's machine I have no access to, but which I have
to help support! J) is having problems with his Outlook 2003 ever since he
updated his graphical signature. He's having two problems: 1) his graphical
signature is always at the top and he would like to have the text *above*
the graphical sig, and 2) his email text is always double-spaced. Any idea
how to fix these two problems? 

 

I've created a "how-to" document for Outlook 2003, complete with pictures
that I sent him, and hopefully it's just something he did when re-doing his
graphical signature and it'll magically fix itself, but I'm not holding my
breath! L

 

Any suggestions?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 


.

 

 

 

 


.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

[Alex Eckelberry]

Those reports that you submit from the console do get read and acted upon.

I will check into this report.


Alex


From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: False-positives on Vipre this morning

Interesting. I posted on the Sunbelt forum as well, so maybe I'll hear 
something back. I don't recall ever hearing anything back from Sunbelt if I 
just submit the suspected false-positives to Sunbelt from the console.

[cid:image001.jpg@01CACC17.5AEC2520][cid:image002@01cacc17.5aec2520]

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: False-positives on Vipre this morning


All our dellephants are working fine this morning.  HOWEVER, 16 of these 
workstations were built with a DVD our help desk person made (slipstreamed 
w/SP3 and MS patches to date).  It seems some OEM drivers, most of which are in 
the .\i386 folder, are being flagged.  To date, we've had two NVidia and one 
Creative Labs driver set off alarms.  (For some reason, VIPRE sends me two 
notices for each alarm.  It's just So Much Fun to wake up and see 32 VIPRE 
events!
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
ASPCA(r)
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
www.aspca.org


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"John Aldrich"  wrote on 03/25/2010 07:33:49 AM:

> Still on the old version of Vipre Enterprise (waiting for more bugs
> to be squished. J) This morning I got a warning about some stuff on
> HP computers. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a false positive, but
> I thought I'd ask if anyone else is having problems with stuff under
> c:\hp\recovery\wizard\fscommand
>
> [image removed] [image removed]
>
>
>









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~   ~<><>

RE: Anyone know how to generate a list of random dates in Excel?

[Alex Eckelberry]

http://www.ablebits.com/excel-random-generator-assistant-free-addins/



From: Marty Nelson [mailto:mnel...@transdyn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone know how to generate a list of random dates in Excel?

Greetings all.

Random question.  Does anyone know how to generate a huge list of dates in MS 
Excel?  It need to cover one day a week from 09 - 10 and I don't have enough 
Excel know-how to do it.

You have no idea how helpful it would be.

-Marty



Marty Nelson | Systems Administrator
Transdyn, Inc. | 4256 Hacienda Dr., Suite 100 | Pleasanton, CA 94588
T: 925.225.1600 | F: 925.225.1610
mnel...@transdyn.com | www.transdyn.com

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~   ~<>

RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

[David Mazzaccaro]

That's what I would do (quick & easy), assuming he knows how to
copy/paste.
 
 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness



Ok. Thanks. I figured it was something like that. J I have a nice
graphical "how-to" for 2003. I don't have the files he wants (similar to
my sig) for his signature... I suppose I could get 'em

 

  

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

 

He probably f'd up making his sig.

 

1) Create the desired sig on your Outlook (exactly how he wants it)

2) Then send him an email (including the sig) so he can copy/paste it in
a new sig.

 

 

 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 strangeness

One of my remote users (who's machine I have no access to, but which I
have to help support! J) is having problems with his Outlook 2003 ever
since he updated his graphical signature. He's having two problems: 1)
his graphical signature is always at the top and he would like to have
the text *above* the graphical sig, and 2) his email text is always
double-spaced. Any idea how to fix these two problems? 

 

I've created a "how-to" document for Outlook 2003, complete with
pictures that I sent him, and hopefully it's just something he did when
re-doing his graphical signature and it'll magically fix itself, but I'm
not holding my breath! L

 

Any suggestions?

 



 

 

 


.

 

 

 

 


.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

Ok. Thanks. I figured it was something like that. J I have a nice graphical
"how-to" for 2003. I don't have the files he wants (similar to my sig) for
his signature. I suppose I could get 'em..

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

 

He probably f'd up making his sig.

 

1) Create the desired sig on your Outlook (exactly how he wants it)

2) Then send him an email (including the sig) so he can copy/paste it in a
new sig.

 

 

 

  _  

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 strangeness

One of my remote users (who's machine I have no access to, but which I have
to help support! J) is having problems with his Outlook 2003 ever since he
updated his graphical signature. He's having two problems: 1) his graphical
signature is always at the top and he would like to have the text *above*
the graphical sig, and 2) his email text is always double-spaced. Any idea
how to fix these two problems? 

 

I've created a "how-to" document for Outlook 2003, complete with pictures
that I sent him, and hopefully it's just something he did when re-doing his
graphical signature and it'll magically fix itself, but I'm not holding my
breath! L

 

Any suggestions?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

 

 


.

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: Outlook 2003 strangeness

[David Mazzaccaro]

He probably f'd up making his sig.
 
1) Create the desired sig on your Outlook (exactly how he wants it)
2) Then send him an email (including the sig) so he can copy/paste it in
a new sig.
 
 



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2003 strangeness



One of my remote users (who's machine I have no access to, but which I
have to help support! J) is having problems with his Outlook 2003 ever
since he updated his graphical signature. He's having two problems: 1)
his graphical signature is always at the top and he would like to have
the text *above* the graphical sig, and 2) his email text is always
double-spaced. Any idea how to fix these two problems? 

 

I've created a "how-to" document for Outlook 2003, complete with
pictures that I sent him, and hopefully it's just something he did when
re-doing his graphical signature and it'll magically fix itself, but I'm
not holding my breath! L

 

Any suggestions?

 

  

 

 

 


.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

Outlook 2003 strangeness

[John Aldrich]

One of my remote users (who's machine I have no access to, but which I have
to help support! J) is having problems with his Outlook 2003 ever since he
updated his graphical signature. He's having two problems: 1) his graphical
signature is always at the top and he would like to have the text *above*
the graphical sig, and 2) his email text is always double-spaced. Any idea
how to fix these two problems? 

 

I've created a "how-to" document for Outlook 2003, complete with pictures
that I sent him, and hopefully it's just something he did when re-doing his
graphical signature and it'll magically fix itself, but I'm not holding my
breath! L

 

Any suggestions?

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~<><>

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Michael Tellson]

Time.windows.com is an extremely unreliable time source.  I have seen
timeouts when using that for weeks at a time, followed by one or two of
successful updates, then several more weeks of timeouts.  Pool.ntp.org
is extremely reliable.  I have never seen a sync request time out since
switching to that source.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael Tellson
 wrote:
> And never user time.windows.com (the default).

  Why not?

  I don't currently have anything using time.windows.com except a few
stand-alone PCs at side clients, so it doesn't really matter to me,
but I'm curious.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

[John Aldrich]

Don't know if they would admit that's what the problem was, but I had a
different modem (ISP supplied as well) before that one... I think it was the
4500 (bigger "box") and it would not connect to the internet, so Windstream
sent out a tech with a new modem, which turned out to be the 4300. At least
I was able to get online then, even if I couldn't get back to my machine at
home. :-) Then I asked support several times about getting into Bridged mode
and they finally admitted I could change that w/o causing problems. :-) 

I did have to go into my router and set up authentication again, like I'd
previously done on my old wired-only router, but I'm happy now... Got my 6
Mbit/sec internet and able to get into my linux box again! :-)




-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

Wow... that's good to know for those with their own modem, but I wonder how
difficult it would be to get the ISP to admit that their modem had done
that...

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

Just FYI, in case anyone cares, I was able to access my linux box at home
this morning after putting my modem in "Bridged" mode and setting the router
to do the authentication. Had to power-cycle both the modem and the router
to get it to "take" but it's working now. :-)

So, if anyone has a SpeedStream DSL modem and suddenly finds that their
internet has stopped working and your ISP says "everything is fine here,"
you should check to see if your modem has been taken out of Bridged mode.
:-)


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[James Rankin]

No, I let the PDCe go to the same time source as the ESX boxes. I got warned
against using the VMWare Tools synchronisation for the guests, by people on
the list I think. Can't remember the reason though - maybe something to do
with hardware interrupts tickles the memory, for some reason?

On 25 March 2010 14:53, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

> And do you sync the DC to it’s host VM via VMWare tools?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!
>
>
>
> I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know whether
> it is "right" but i never have any time issues.
>
> On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:
>
> OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.
>
>
>
> Time services… you can set your guest servers, your guest DC’s or your VM
> hosts to all sync with NTP.
>
>
>
> Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the ESXi
> host they live on.
>
>
>
> IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
> with DC (also a guest).
>
>
>
> What I can’t find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
> directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected by
> the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with an NTP
> source instead?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: YouTube Down?

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Cliff Partlow  wrote:
> It appears to be down for everyone.
> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/youtube.com

  In other news, businesses today reported a brief spike in
productivity around 8 AM EDT...

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael Tellson
 wrote:
> And never user time.windows.com (the default).

  Why not?

  I don't currently have anything using time.windows.com except a few
stand-alone PCs at side clients, so it doesn't really matter to me,
but I'm curious.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: we are goign to rebulid a server, and also going to reinstall viper enterprise

[Steve Ens]

Influenced by Henry Purcell...an Englishman.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:16 AM,  wrote:

>
> OK...  Now, to further confuse things, his music is in the Italian Baroque
> style...  %-}
>
> Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:53:38 AM:
>
>
> > I stand corrected...Aleluia!  My recordings all have the English
> spelling.
>
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM,  wrote:
> >
> > 'xcuse me?
> >
> > He got hired away from Germany and that region's (Hanover) court to
> > go to England.  THEN, George of Havover became King of England.  The
> > Water Music suites were written, in part, to get back into Georgie's
> > good graces.
> >
> > It has a umlaut on the jacket (that shows my age) of just about
> > every recording I have!  (Now, it might have been "Georg" for both
> > him and the king...)
> > --
> > RMc
> >
> > Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:36:31 AM:
> >
> >
> > > I don't think George F Handel has an umlaut in his name -> he was
> English.
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM,  wrote:
> > >
> > > A bit of warning - VIPRE 4 is going through its groin pains.  You
> > > might want to try email support first.  Otherwise, by the time you
> > > get off hold, you will truly despise the "procession" from Händel's
> > > "Solomon and the Queen of Sheba"!
> > > --
> > > RMc
> > >
> > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on
> > > 03/22/2010 09:43:03 AM:
> > >
> > >
> > > > so I can call them up the day  I will rebulid server, and get help on
>
> > > > this. COOL loving sunbelt even more, and afterwards the new
> > server will be
> > > > 4.0, so clients will also upgrade themselfs?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No need to uninstall.  SB Support will talk you through how to get
> your
> > > > > agents to check in with a different server.  With a very few
> > exceptions (I
> > > > > had one out of 150+ agents), there is no need to uninstall 3.1.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Richard D. McClary
> > > > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > > > > ASPCA?
> > > > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > > > Urbana, IL  61802
> > > > >
> > > > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > > > >
> > > > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > > > F: 217-337-9761
> > > > > www.aspca.org
> > > > >
> > > > > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments
> hereto, is
> > > > > from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to
> > Animals? (ASPCA
> > > > > ?) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein
> and may
> > > > > contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If
> > you are not
> > > > > the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that
> any
> > > > > dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this
> > > > > e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you
> have
> > > > > received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by
> > reply email
> > > > > and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and
> any
> > > > > printout thereof.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on
> 03/22/2010
> > > > > 09:37:24 AM:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So anyideas about clients that connect to viper console?
> > > > >> Do we need to uninstall manually the client (viper 3.1) that are
> not
> > > > > 4.0?
> > > > >> What issues will occur?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > > >> ~   ~
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > > > ~   ~
> > > >
> > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > > ~   ~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: we are goign to rebulid a server, and also going to reinstall viper enterprise

[RichardMcClary]

OK...  Now, to further confuse things, his music is in the Italian Baroque 
style...  %-}

Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:53:38 AM:

> I stand corrected...Aleluia!  My recordings all have the English 
spelling.  

> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM,  wrote:
> 
> 'xcuse me? 
> 
> He got hired away from Germany and that region's (Hanover) court to 
> go to England.  THEN, George of Havover became King of England.  The
> Water Music suites were written, in part, to get back into Georgie's
> good graces. 
> 
> It has a umlaut on the jacket (that shows my age) of just about 
> every recording I have!  (Now, it might have been "Georg" for both 
> him and the king...) 
> -- 
> RMc 
> 
> Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:36:31 AM: 
> 
> 
> > I don't think George F Handel has an umlaut in his name -> he was 
English.
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM,  wrote: 
> > 
> > A bit of warning - VIPRE 4 is going through its groin pains.  You 
> > might want to try email support first.  Otherwise, by the time you 
> > get off hold, you will truly despise the "procession" from Händel's 
> > "Solomon and the Queen of Sheba"! 
> > -- 
> > RMc 
> > 
> > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on 
> > 03/22/2010 09:43:03 AM: 
> > 
> > 
> > > so I can call them up the day  I will rebulid server, and get help 
on 
> > > this. COOL loving sunbelt even more, and afterwards the new 
> server will be 
> > > 4.0, so clients will also upgrade themselfs?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > No need to uninstall.  SB Support will talk you through how to get 
your
> > > > agents to check in with a different server.  With a very few 
> exceptions (I
> > > > had one out of 150+ agents), there is no need to uninstall 3.1.
> > > > --
> > > > Richard D. McClary
> > > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > > > ASPCA?
> > > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > > Urbana, IL  61802
> > > >
> > > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > > >
> > > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > > F: 217-337-9761
> > > > www.aspca.org
> > > >
> > > > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments 
hereto, is
> > > > from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to 
> Animals? (ASPCA
> > > > ?) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein 
and may
> > > > contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If
> you are not
> > > > the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified 
that any
> > > > dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of 
this
> > > > e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you 
have
> > > > received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by
> reply email
> > > > and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail 
and any
> > > > printout thereof.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on 
03/22/2010
> > > > 09:37:24 AM:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> So anyideas about clients that connect to viper console?
> > > >> Do we need to uninstall manually the client (viper 3.1) that are 
not
> > > > 4.0?
> > > >> What issues will occur?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! 
~
> > > >> ~   ~
> > > >
> > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > > ~   ~
> > > 
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > ~   ~ 
> >   
> >   
> > 
> >   
> >   
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

[Joseph Heaton]

Wow... that's good to know for those with their own modem, but I wonder how 
difficult it would be to get the ISP to admit that their modem had done that...

-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

Just FYI, in case anyone cares, I was able to access my linux box at home
this morning after putting my modem in "Bridged" mode and setting the router
to do the authentication. Had to power-cycle both the modem and the router
to get it to "take" but it's working now. :-)

So, if anyone has a SpeedStream DSL modem and suddenly finds that their
internet has stopped working and your ISP says "everything is fine here,"
you should check to see if your modem has been taken out of Bridged mode.
:-)


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Michael Tellson]

Also ensure your PDCE domain controller and your ESX hosts use the same
time source to sync to.  And never user time.windows.com (the default).

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.

On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 




-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

Thanks Michael, I'll read up...

 

-sc

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 



 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

And do you sync the DC to it's host VM via VMWare tools?

 

-sc

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

 

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know
whether it is "right" but i never have any time issues.

On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc

 

 




-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
provoke such a question."

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: we are goign to rebulid a server, and also going to reinstall viper enterprise

[Steve Ens]

I stand corrected...Aleluia!  My recordings all have the English spelling.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM,  wrote:

>
> 'xcuse me?
>
> He got hired away from Germany and that region's (Hanover) court to go to
> England.  THEN, George of Havover became King of England.  The Water Music
> suites were written, in part, to get back into Georgie's good graces.
>
> It has a umlaut on the jacket (that shows my age) of just about every
> recording I have!  (Now, it might have been "Georg" for both him and the
> king...)
> --
> RMc
>
> Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:36:31 AM:
>
>
> > I don't think George F Handel has an umlaut in his name -> he was
> English.
>
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM,  wrote:
> >
> > A bit of warning - VIPRE 4 is going through its groin pains.  You
> > might want to try email support first.  Otherwise, by the time you
> > get off hold, you will truly despise the "procession" from Händel's
> > "Solomon and the Queen of Sheba"!
> > --
> > RMc
> >
> > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on
> > 03/22/2010 09:43:03 AM:
> >
> >
> > > so I can call them up the day  I will rebulid server, and get help on
> > > this. COOL loving sunbelt even more, and afterwards the new server will
> be
> > > 4.0, so clients will also upgrade themselfs?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
> > >
> > > > No need to uninstall.  SB Support will talk you through how to get
> your
> > > > agents to check in with a different server.  With a very few
> exceptions (I
> > > > had one out of 150+ agents), there is no need to uninstall 3.1.
> > > > --
> > > > Richard D. McClary
> > > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > > > ASPCA?
> > > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > > Urbana, IL  61802
> > > >
> > > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > > >
> > > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > > F: 217-337-9761
> > > > www.aspca.org
> > > >
> > > > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto,
> is
> > > > from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals?
> (ASPCA
> > > > ?) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and
> may
> > > > contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you
> are not
> > > > the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that
> any
> > > > dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this
> > > > e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you
> have
> > > > received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply
> email
> > > > and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and
> any
> > > > printout thereof.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on
> 03/22/2010
> > > > 09:37:24 AM:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> So anyideas about clients that connect to viper console?
> > > >> Do we need to uninstall manually the client (viper 3.1) that are not
> > > > 4.0?
> > > >> What issues will occur?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > >> ~   ~
> > > >
> > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > > ~   ~
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > ~   ~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Michael B. Smith]

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your VM 
hosts to all sync with NTP.

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the ESXi host 
they live on.

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync with 
DC (also a guest).

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should 
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected by the 
VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with an NTP source 
instead?

-sc





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[James Rankin]

I let the ESX boxes use direct NTP and the boss DC also. Don't know whether
it is "right" but i never have any time issues.

On 25 March 2010 14:39, Steven M. Caesare  wrote:

> OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.
>
>
>
> Time services… you can set your guest servers, your guest DC’s or your VM
> hosts to all sync with NTP.
>
>
>
> Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the ESXi
> host they live on.
>
>
>
> IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
> with DC (also a guest).
>
>
>
> What I can’t find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
> directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected by
> the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with an NTP
> source instead?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: we are goign to rebulid a server, and also going to reinstall viper enterprise

[RichardMcClary]

'xcuse me?

He got hired away from Germany and that region's (Hanover) court to go to 
England.  THEN, George of Havover became King of England.  The Water Music 
suites were written, in part, to get back into Georgie's good graces.

It has a umlaut on the jacket (that shows my age) of just about every 
recording I have!  (Now, it might have been "Georg" for both him and the 
king...)
--
RMc

Steve Ens  wrote on 03/25/2010 09:36:31 AM:

> I don't think George F Handel has an umlaut in his name -> he was 
English.

> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM,  wrote:
> 
> A bit of warning - VIPRE 4 is going through its groin pains.  You 
> might want to try email support first.  Otherwise, by the time you 
> get off hold, you will truly despise the "procession" from Händel's 
> "Solomon and the Queen of Sheba"! 
> -- 
> RMc 
> 
> "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on 
> 03/22/2010 09:43:03 AM: 
> 
> 
> > so I can call them up the day  I will rebulid server, and get help on 
> > this. COOL loving sunbelt even more, and afterwards the new server 
will be 
> > 4.0, so clients will also upgrade themselfs?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
> > 
> > > No need to uninstall.  SB Support will talk you through how to get 
your
> > > agents to check in with a different server.  With a very few 
exceptions (I
> > > had one out of 150+ agents), there is no need to uninstall 3.1.
> > > --
> > > Richard D. McClary
> > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > > ASPCA?
> > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > Urbana, IL  61802
> > >
> > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > >
> > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > F: 217-337-9761
> > > www.aspca.org
> > >
> > > The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments 
hereto, is
> > > from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals? 
(ASPCA
> > > ?) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and 
may
> > > contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you 
are not
> > > the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that 
any
> > > dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this
> > > e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you 
have
> > > received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply 
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> > >
> > >
> > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on 
03/22/2010
> > > 09:37:24 AM:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> So anyideas about clients that connect to viper console?
> > >> Do we need to uninstall manually the client (viper 3.1) that are 
not
> > > 4.0?
> > >> What issues will occur?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > >> ~   ~
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > ~   ~
> > 
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
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>  
> 
> 
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NTP, VM's, and domains... Oh My!

[Steven M. Caesare]

OK, there was some discussion about this a while back I believe.

 

Time services... you can set your guest servers, your guest DC's or your
VM hosts to all sync with NTP. 

 

Additionally, you can (under ESXi), sync the guest machines with the
ESXi host they live on.

 

IIRC , I believe the best practice is to allow all guest servers to sync
with DC (also a guest).

 

What I can't find anything definitive on is if the head-honcho DC should
directly sync with an NTP server, or should it have its clock corrected
by the VMWare tools on that ESXi host, and let the ESXi server sync with
an NTP source instead?

 

-sc


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~   ~

Re: we are goign to rebulid a server, and also going to reinstall viper enterprise

[Steve Ens]

I don't think George F Handel has an umlaut in his name -> he was English.

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:22 AM,  wrote:

>
> A bit of warning - VIPRE 4 is going through its groin pains.  You might
> want to try email support first.  Otherwise, by the time you get off hold,
> you will truly despise the "procession" from Händel's "Solomon and the
> Queen of Sheba"!
> --
> RMc
>
> "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on 03/22/2010
> 09:43:03 AM:
>
>
> > so I can call them up the day  I will rebulid server, and get help on
> > this. COOL loving sunbelt even more, and afterwards the new server will
> be
> > 4.0, so clients will also upgrade themselfs?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
> >
> > > No need to uninstall.  SB Support will talk you through how to get your
> > > agents to check in with a different server.  With a very few exceptions
> (I
> > > had one out of 150+ agents), there is no need to uninstall 3.1.
> > > --
> > > Richard D. McClary
> > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > > ASPCA?
> > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > Urbana, IL  61802
> > >
> > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > >
> > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > F: 217-337-9761
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> > > "jgarciaitl...@gmail.com"  wrote on
> 03/22/2010
> > > 09:37:24 AM:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> So anyideas about clients that connect to viper console?
> > >> Do we need to uninstall manually the client (viper 3.1) that are not
> > > 4.0?
> > >> What issues will occur?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > >> ~   ~
> > >
> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > > ~   ~
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~

RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

[Jay Dale]

That's why I had asked the question about bridged mode - that has happened to 
me several times with DSL clients with that modem.  The ISP does updates or 
changes the "unchangeable" sticky-static address, and the modem resets to NAT 
mode...:)

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Internet issues (RANT) --- SOLVED!

Just FYI, in case anyone cares, I was able to access my linux box at home
this morning after putting my modem in "Bridged" mode and setting the router
to do the authentication. Had to power-cycle both the modem and the router
to get it to "take" but it's working now. :-)

So, if anyone has a SpeedStream DSL modem and suddenly finds that their
internet has stopped working and your ISP says "everything is fine here,"
you should check to see if your modem has been taken out of Bridged mode.
:-)


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~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: How would you go about this?

[Charlie Kaiser]

That's the paradigm I'm looking at; install HV or VM on bare metal and put
the OS in a guest. If the backup/image storage is done correctly, your
recoverability goes way up. We just lost a server at a client; older Dell
and the raid controller smoked the OS mirror. Client doesn't want to pay
what it's going to take to rebuild and try to recover. Same client that
wouldn't flatten the box when it got hacked 6 months ago. Same client that
wouldn't spend the money on disk storage to enable adequate backups. So
they've lost a DC/file server but fortunately, the data left there wasn't
critical.

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***  

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Anderson [mailto:bander...@kentwatersports.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> 
> We just replaced our 3 servers with 2 new Dells and went with 
> Hyper-V on 1. The 3 that were replaced were 7 1/2 years old 
> and it was a matter of getting parts.
> 
> 
> Bob Anderson
> 
> IT Manager
> Kent Sporting Goods Inc.
> 433 Park Ave. S
> New London OH 44851
> 419-929-7021 x315
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> 
> +1. 
> While 5 or 6 years ago 3 year server replacements were the 
> norm, that's no longer the case. By the time you put together 
> server cost, OS license, and migration consulting costs, a 
> small business is unwilling to pay $10 or so to upgrade their 
> SBS box or exchange server just because it's old.
> We're running into many more aged hardware issues than we 
> used to, and some of them are ugly.
> 
> ***
> Charlie Kaiser
> charl...@golden-eagle.org
> Kingman, AZ
> ***  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:29 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > 
> > "You get five years out of a server? I think you need the help."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > *or* YOU are luckily spoiled !  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Yes, a 3 year lifecycle refresh is ideal, but not realistic 
> > budget-wise for MANY out there in the real world. Especially in the 
> > SMB market, I frequently run into aging servers with some of my 
> > consulting clients.  You'd be hard pressed to convince them 
> to replace 
> > a server that is currently working as expected with new hardware 
> > and/or new OS without proving any significant benefit in 
> features over 
> > the existing systems.  The biggest issue on aging servers 
> that I see 
> > is drive failures, and insufficient drive space/size due to data 
> > growth.  Data volumes can be replaced/upgraded without an 
> entirely new 
> > server in many if not most cases.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > That said, we all know that Windows 2000 ( all flavors including 
> > servers ) are dropping from Microsoft support July 12th 
> this year.  So 
> > the lack of support, service packs, and vulnerability fixes 
> *will* be 
> > a driving factor for OS upgrades which work out well with hardware 
> > upgrades
> > 
> > Erik Goldoff
> > 
> > IT  Consultant
> > 
> > Systems, Networks, & Security
> > 
> > '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
> > 
> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:dholst...@nbm.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:15 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: How would you go about this?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > You get five years out of a server? I think you need the 
> help. I was 
> > just looking for some help in picking up a file server. I 
> replace all 
> > my workstations and servers every three years. But I only have 130 
> > workstations and servers.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Your growth estimate is OK as it increases here at the 
> Museum. That is 
> > why I am splitting the data onto several HDs.
> > Thanks for your help.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:18 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: How would you go about this?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'm not going to answer your question, instead I'm going to 
> pick apart 
> > your request.
> > 
> > We really don't have any idea of what your rate of data growth is.  
> > There are two estimates we can make from the data supplied, linear 
> > growth or geometric growth.  With linear, you're adding 
> about 125 GB 
> > of data per year.  With geometric you're doubling your data 
> every ~19 
> > months.  So, if you expect the same growth rate, in 5 years 
> (assumed 
> > life of a
> > server) you're at either +625 GB of data or over 8 TB of data.
> > 
> > Just taking a step back and looking at it from 30,000 feet, 
> a serve