RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Just received 4. Only setup 1 so far. Too much junk for a business computer, should have saved time by wiping and doing a fresh install. I expected a build of the shell around the base. The bottom is loose, and rattles when moving the laptop. I guess I just had higher expectations for the amount of money spent. I prefer the laptops that have a slight tilt, front slightly lower than back (I think some HPs do this when you get the extra capacity battery). I was very surprised, considering all the reviews I read about the e5500 and e6500. I wish they still sold the d830. We have 4 of those, and I had to work on one, very nice. The laptop is very fast though. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.commailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Too much junk for a business computer -which channel did you order from? latitudes ship (at least for me (SMB Channel), extremely bare. Not even with Anti-Virus or Reader. Doesn't matter though, I also wipe and load my custom image. i think most people do the same... Avoids the headaches of having an OEM license of Windows on machines. (Always = trouble down the road). The bottom is loose Same thing happened with one of mine. The screw hole that actually holds the bottom cover in was stripped. They replaced it ASAP, with a system that was 10x more powerful - can't complain. D830's seem like dinosaurs compared to the new ones, imo :) From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Just received 4. Only setup 1 so far. Too much junk for a business computer, should have saved time by wiping and doing a fresh install. I expected a build of the shell around the base. The bottom is loose, and rattles when moving the laptop. I guess I just had higher expectations for the amount of money spent. I prefer the laptops that have a slight tilt, front slightly lower than back (I think some HPs do this when you get the extra capacity battery). I was very surprised, considering all the reviews I read about the e5500 and e6500. I wish they still sold the d830. We have 4 of those, and I had to work on one, very nice. The laptop is very fast though. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
The Latitude E-series are sweet. Sometimes the dinosaurs are more useful though, not a single model in the entire E-series line has a built-in serial port :( On a weekly I have to drive around town with my trusty Latitude D520 and a Cisco console cable, I would really prefer to not have to carry around a USB - serial dongle too. BTW you can still find the D-series Latitudes refurbished at http://www.dell.com/outlet. If you need/want one get one while you can! Sam Cayze wrote: D830's seem like dinosaurs compared to the new ones, imo :) -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I hear ya! They got rid of the s-video ports too. Correction - I mistakenly thought that OP said D800! (Yes, those are dinosaurs). But he said D830. I think those and D630's are still sweat machines, very solid and very fast. -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression The Latitude E-series are sweet. Sometimes the dinosaurs are more useful though, not a single model in the entire E-series line has a built-in serial port :( On a weekly I have to drive around town with my trusty Latitude D520 and a Cisco console cable, I would really prefer to not have to carry around a USB - serial dongle too. BTW you can still find the D-series Latitudes refurbished at http://www.dell.com/outlet. If you need/want one get one while you can! Sam Cayze wrote: D830's seem like dinosaurs compared to the new ones, imo :) -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
They are not on our list of approved vendors for the IBM's. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.comwrote: CDW gets them to me in a day. J *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I feel your pain. It's never the best vendor or the best product, it's the one with the state contract. I tend to tell cold calling sales reps that their product could be the best ever at a close to nothing cost (could even make me my coffee and give me a massage), but if they don't have a state contract. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: They are not on our list of approved vendors for the IBM's. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: CDW gets them to me in a day. J *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
So true, so true. Add that the State only bids out the contracts once a year with renewal clauses built in and unrealistic goals and you have a poor vendor of a good product blowing sales. Jon On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Vicky Spelshaus vicky.spelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I feel your pain. It's never the best vendor or the best product, it's the one with the state contract. I tend to tell cold calling sales reps that their product could be the best ever at a close to nothing cost (could even make me my coffee and give me a massage), but if they don't have a state contract. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: They are not on our list of approved vendors for the IBM's. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: CDW gets them to me in a day. J *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
We just got three of the E6500 and we love them, well for the most part since we are having a weird display issue anyone else experience this? We replaced 3 working D6XX series laptops all of them with dual monitor out of the docking station 1 VGA 1 DVI connection to matched Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors, so we know they were all working fine. Now the e6500 and dock's we got wont display the DVI signal on the Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors while VGA works fine. We've tried all combos, swap monitors, docks, laptops dvi cables dual link and single link, BIOS settings and nothing makes it work. We even tried the display port to DVI cable and still nothing monitor light remains amber. XP Vista and Ubuntu do the same thing. I did take it home at wouldn't you know it works fine on a Samsung monitor go figure, We've asked Viewsonic and Dell and they've pretty much tell us to pound sand since Viewsonic says that their monitors are fine and are DVI standard and Dell tell us that the laptop/docks work fine on DELL hardware. Any other ideas? I'm trying to escalate farther up the DELL, Viewsonic chain since we would be buying the E6500 as our new replacement laptops From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression So true, so true. Add that the State only bids out the contracts once a year with renewal clauses built in and unrealistic goals and you have a poor vendor of a good product blowing sales. Jon On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Vicky Spelshaus vicky.spelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain. It's never the best vendor or the best product, it's the one with the state contract. I tend to tell cold calling sales reps that their product could be the best ever at a close to nothing cost (could even make me my coffee and give me a massage), but if they don't have a state contract. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: They are not on our list of approved vendors for the IBM's. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: CDW gets them to me in a day. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Just rolled out 2 E6500 laptops to managers and I am considering switching them back to D series. The lack of a simple undock/dock procedure is driving them crazy. If you don't have patience (which they don't) you never know which monitors will work, if any. Think I'll toss the docks and deploy the Es to techs instead. Dennis From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We just got three of the E6500 and we love them, well for the most part since we are having a weird display issue anyone else experience this? We replaced 3 working D6XX series laptops all of them with dual monitor out of the docking station 1 VGA 1 DVI connection to matched Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors, so we know they were all working fine. Now the e6500 and dock’s we got wont display the DVI signal on the Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors while VGA works fine. We’ve tried all combos, swap monitors, docks, laptops dvi cables dual link and single link, BIOS settings and nothing makes it work. We even tried the display port to DVI cable and still nothing monitor light remains amber. XP Vista and Ubuntu do the same thing. I did take it home at wouldn’t you know it works fine on a Samsung monitor go figure, We’ve asked Viewsonic and Dell and they’ve pretty much tell us to pound sand since Viewsonic says that their monitors are fine and are DVI standard and Dell tell us that the laptop/docks work fine on DELL hardware. Any other ideas? I’m trying to escalate farther up the DELL, Viewsonic chain since we would be buying the E6500 as our new replacement laptops ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Just picked up a new HP Elitebook 8530p...never seen a faster lappy...performs like a ferrari, looks like an aston... On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Martin- Do the older docks, say from the T4x series fit the T400? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
T4x No. That's an extinct form factor. But the T6x series ones do. I had a T61 before this and I still use the same docks. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Martin- Do the older docks, say from the T4x series fit the T400? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Thanks. I'm getting close to being extinct as well J They are prying my T40 from my grasp in favor of a D630. I still have my work T43 personal T42 so the new Dell is going to make things very inconvenient. I have multiple locations set up both at home and in the office where the TPs are interchangeable and now I'm going to have to rethink the whole setup. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression T4x No. That's an extinct form factor. But the T6x series ones do. I had a T61 before this and I still use the same docks. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Martin- Do the older docks, say from the T4x series fit the T400? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I tend to agree after our first experience with the E series, not a big fan of the docking setup, compared to what we considered an excellent system with the D series. Not to mention that we have soon to be incompatible D docking equipment sitting everywhere. Unfortunately, while they do still have one or two D models still available in the lineup, I'm sure they're on the quick path to extinction. The other Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Just rolled out 2 E6500 laptops to managers and I am considering switching them back to D series. The lack of a simple undock/dock procedure is driving them crazy. If you don't have patience (which they don't) you never know which monitors will work, if any. Think I'll toss the docks and deploy the Es to techs instead. Dennis From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We just got three of the E6500 and we love them, well for the most part since we are having a weird display issue anyone else experience this? We replaced 3 working D6XX series laptops all of them with dual monitor out of the docking station 1 VGA 1 DVI connection to matched Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors, so we know they were all working fine. Now the e6500 and dock's we got wont display the DVI signal on the Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors while VGA works fine. We've tried all combos, swap monitors, docks, laptops dvi cables dual link and single link, BIOS settings and nothing makes it work. We even tried the display port to DVI cable and still nothing monitor light remains amber. XP Vista and Ubuntu do the same thing. I did take it home at wouldn't you know it works fine on a Samsung monitor go figure, We've asked Viewsonic and Dell and they've pretty much tell us to pound sand since Viewsonic says that their monitors are fine and are DVI standard and Dell tell us that the laptop/docks work fine on DELL hardware. Any other ideas? I'm trying to escalate farther up the DELL, Viewsonic chain since we would be buying the E6500 as our new replacement laptops ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I tend to agree after our first experience with the E series, not a big fan of the docking setup, compared to what we considered an excellent system with the D series. Not to mention that we have soon to be incompatible D docking equipment sitting everywhere. Unfortunately, while they do still have one or two D models still available in the lineup, I'm sure they're on the quick path to extinction. The other Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Just rolled out 2 E6500 laptops to managers and I am considering switching them back to D series. The lack of a simple undock/dock procedure is driving them crazy. If you don't have patience (which they don't) you never know which monitors will work, if any. Think I'll toss the docks and deploy the Es to techs instead. Dennis From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We just got three of the E6500 and we love them, well for the most part since we are having a weird display issue anyone else experience this? We replaced 3 working D6XX series laptops all of them with dual monitor out of the docking station 1 VGA 1 DVI connection to matched Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors, so we know they were all working fine. Now the e6500 and dock's we got wont display the DVI signal on the Viewsonic VG2030wm monitors while VGA works fine. We've tried all combos, swap monitors, docks, laptops dvi cables dual link and single link, BIOS settings and nothing makes it work. We even tried the display port to DVI cable and still nothing monitor light remains amber. XP Vista and Ubuntu do the same thing. I did take it home at wouldn't you know it works fine on a Samsung monitor go figure, We've asked Viewsonic and Dell and they've pretty much tell us to pound sand since Viewsonic says that their monitors are fine and are DVI standard and Dell tell us that the laptop/docks work fine on DELL hardware. Any other ideas? I'm trying to escalate farther up the DELL, Viewsonic chain since we would be buying the E6500 as our new replacement laptops ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I tend to like things the same way at home and the office as well right down to the same KB/Mouse combo so I feel your pain.. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Thanks. I'm getting close to being extinct as well J They are prying my T40 from my grasp in favor of a D630. I still have my work T43 personal T42 so the new Dell is going to make things very inconvenient. I have multiple locations set up both at home and in the office where the TPs are interchangeable and now I'm going to have to rethink the whole setup. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression T4x No. That's an extinct form factor. But the T6x series ones do. I had a T61 before this and I still use the same docks. From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Martin- Do the older docks, say from the T4x series fit the T400? From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I don't use 3rd party software where built-in does the job. I just use Control Point for the initial setup of the ambient light sensor, backlit keyboard, stuff like that. All of this looks like it can be set up in the BIOS, but I haven't uninstalled the CP software yet. I just don't want it to remove my hotkey control of those things. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression iirc correctly, I think the e-series did away with alternate hardware profile for docked/undocked, if that helps drive your conquest for a solution... As for alternatives to control point... I think I am stuck using it since I have an internal Sprint Broadband card :( The old Dell software took about 2 clicks to connect, Control Point takes about 7. Oh, and get this. Dell's connection manager software does not support wi-fi yet. 'A release will be made soon'. Yeah... fail. _ From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
What is the OS? I know with Vista hardware profiles are gone, so is this an issue in that regard? I haven't got the dock yet but am going to soon. What exactly is going on with the monitors? Wat is the new procedure like? When I hot dock our one D520 the monitor always comes up at the wrong resolution requiring a reboot anyway. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Just rolled out 2 E6500 laptops to managers and I am considering switching them back to D series. The lack of a simple undock/dock procedure is driving them crazy. If you don't have patience (which they don't) you never know which monitors will work, if any. Think I'll toss the docks and deploy the Es to techs instead. Dennis ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Am I the only person reading these threads and thinking ... Bitlocker? -troy -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
To add to that, If you ONLY use the ATA password feature, all one has to do is replace the mainboard on the drive and you data is avail. pretty easy task. That's why you need drives that ENCRYPT the data when the ATA password is set. Sam From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Dell is using the Seagate drives...unless they have changed it up since my last meeting with them. TVK From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.commailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.commailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.commailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Yeah, but they don't offer 7200 RPM yet :( Boo. I don't why - they have been avail for ages now. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Dell is using the Seagate drives...unless they have changed it up since my last meeting with them. TVK From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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To add, that was in reference to their laptops. They do offer 7200 rpm for their desktops. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Yeah, but they don't offer 7200 RPM yet :( Boo. I don't why - they have been avail for ages now. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Dell is using the Seagate drives...unless they have changed it up since my last meeting with them. TVK From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I'm considering just using the ATA password feature. I know it's not encryption, but it travels with the drive if removed. Does anyone know what some of the vendor policies are for getting the drive reset? Do you have to prove ownership? Are there known tools available that can crack this feature? -- Mike Gill From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I had some issues with the E-series and Whole Disk Encryption. Drive wouldn't encrypt unless a thumbdrive was installed, once the thumbdrive was installed you could manually encrypt, but if you ever inserted and then later ejected the thumbdrive you would blue screen Windows. Some threads on the PGP message boards suggested it was a driver issue, which I never did resolve (uninstalling the driver would not fix the problem). I suspected that the Control Point software was tied to the problem, too. Eventually I gave up and wiped, avoiding the driver and the Control Point software altogether, for expediency. Just a word of warning if you're using PGP WDE. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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You're going to buy me the version of Vista that supports it? The snarky remark is directed more towards MS in their wisdom of splitting up features for the different versions of Windows. Personally I think it involved some sort of drinking game and a dart board. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Am I the only person reading these threads and thinking ... Bitlocker? -troy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
The ATA password isn't encryption though. AFAIK, you would have to remove the platters and put them in a new drive chassis, or somehow get the factory to reset the disk to unlock it. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Agreed. We are a very small company, and had the need for whole drive encryption. I have Vista Business licenses for all machines. But according to MS, I have to be an 'Enterprise' to need Bit Locker! -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression You're going to buy me the version of Vista that supports it? The snarky remark is directed more towards MS in their wisdom of splitting up features for the different versions of Windows. Personally I think it involved some sort of drinking game and a dart board. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Am I the only person reading these threads and thinking ... Bitlocker? -troy ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Correct. But with FDE drives, the ATA password ENABLES the encryption on the drive. You don't have to remove the platters, just replace the logic board on the drive. It's faster :) From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression The ATA password isn't encryption though. AFAIK, you would have to remove the platters and put them in a new drive chassis, or somehow get the factory to reset the disk to unlock it. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
-Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression But according to MS, I have to be an 'Enterprise' to need Bit Locker! Enterprise is the name of a SKU, not to the type of business you need to be to buy/need that particular SKU. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I realize that, but you must admit it's a little deceptive... If they name their SKU after a type of business, then they should try to match the feature set to business needs. Otherwise, they should come up with a new naming convention. And maybe not publish statements like these: Windows Vista Enterprise Designed to significantly lower IT costs and risks, Windows Vista Enterprise meets the needs of large, global organizations with complex IT infrastructures. [They should add: but really, small business need these features too, but we need to make money here...] Windows Vista Business If you own or run a small business, you'll want Windows Vista Business, the first Windows operating system designed specifically to meet your needs. With its powerful new security features, you can better protect the key information that your business depends on and that your customers trust you to keep confidential. [They should add: Actually, you CAN'T protect your key information - because we crippled this version and didn't provide encryption - sorry!] -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 12:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression But according to MS, I have to be an 'Enterprise' to need Bit Locker! Enterprise is the name of a SKU, not to the type of business you need to be to buy/need that particular SKU. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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-Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression [They should add: Actually, you CAN'T protect your key information - because we crippled this version and didn't provide encryption - sorry!] Well, encryption only protects you against one information loss vector (data at rest). There are many other ways to lose your data, and saying that you CAN'T protect your data because Bitlocker is missing is incorrect. That said, there's a tradeoff. If you lock yourself out of a bitlocker-ed machine, you're SoL. The support issues would be enormous for Microsoft dealing with poorly run SOHO type outfits that accidently enable Bitlocker without doing the necessary planning around key escrow/backup. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Hitachi's FAQ on their encrypted drives: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/bulk_faqs.htm From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Correct. But with FDE drives, the ATA password ENABLES the encryption on the drive. You don't have to remove the platters, just replace the logic board on the drive. It's faster :) From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression The ATA password isn't encryption though. AFAIK, you would have to remove the platters and put them in a new drive chassis, or somehow get the factory to reset the disk to unlock it. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is exactly what did, with drives that have encryption technologies built into the drive itself. (I can't stand software-based disk encryption). Check Hitachi's FDE drives. Seagate has them too, and I assume other do. As far as I know, Hitachi will not reset the drive for you, but I do not know the other companies policies. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Very true, good points ;) -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression [They should add: Actually, you CAN'T protect your key information - because we crippled this version and didn't provide encryption - sorry!] Well, encryption only protects you against one information loss vector (data at rest). There are many other ways to lose your data, and saying that you CAN'T protect your data because Bitlocker is missing is incorrect. That said, there's a tradeoff. If you lock yourself out of a bitlocker-ed machine, you're SoL. The support issues would be enormous for Microsoft dealing with poorly run SOHO type outfits that accidently enable Bitlocker without doing the necessary planning around key escrow/backup. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
My e6500 came with a 7200 RPM drive. It's on their site as an option. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression Yeah, but they don't offer 7200 RPM yet :( Boo. I don't why - they have been avail for ages now. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
Is there an alternative? Normally I wipe a machine before I start really using it, but this time there was only Roxio installed, and no other crapware. I think a lot of that stuff can be set up in the BIOS, but I needed to get up and going quickly so I didn't have time to test out different scenarios. On beef I have is with the trackpad driver. I set it so that when you plug in a mouse, the trackpad and joystick disable. When I tried with my Bluetooth mouse though, the trackpad/joystick stay disabled after resuming from standby, even though the Bluetooth mouse is turned off. Tried the latest driver too. -- Mike Gill From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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iirc correctly, I think the e-series did away with alternate hardware profile for docked/undocked, if that helps drive your conquest for a solution... As for alternatives to control point... I think I am stuck using it since I have an internal Sprint Broadband card :( The old Dell software took about 2 clicks to connect, Control Point takes about 7. Oh, and get this. Dell's connection manager software does not support wi-fi yet. 'A release will be made soon'. Yeah... fail. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.comwrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... -- *From:* Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill *From:* Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression
CDW gets them to me in a day. J From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression We dropped the IBM/Lenovo line due to the reseller we had/have to use. They never got an order correct or to us in one piece during the 7 years we used them. It was always a fight and multiple changes to PO's. All that said they were rock solid lasted forever and weighed a ton. They also took a lot of abuse but refused to die. If we could change the contractor we would go back to them but State purchasing says use this contractor. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com wrote: Go grab yourself a Lenovo T400. I love this laptop. Love it. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I agree on the Software but I don't like the docking station much. I have been having issues with it hanging on the docking station but it may just be the docking station. Jon On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: E6500 here too, very impressed. Solid as a rock. Not too found of the new Dell Control Point software though... _ From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression I just got my E6500, and I have to say so far I'm impressed. Its internal components are all accessible from the bottom and the magnesium chassis feels much stronger than the plastic ones. -- Mike Gill From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell Latitude E Series 1st Impression This is my first time really getting my hands on a Dell Latitude E4500 since Dell went away from the D series. (The ones we have sold in the last couple months have been installed by my lakey.) Is it me, or are these being made in the same factory as the Lenovo's? It looks to me like they could use the same docking station, batteries and other accessories. Is this by design and I totally missed that memo or what? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
