Re: Gmail rant
I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, although it is nicer to be asked. I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! ** ** I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old format”. I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. ** ** Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? ** ** Thanks! -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail rant
why not just change the them, I have a nice dark one with white text easy to read and the new layout is so much better. On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! ** ** I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old format”. I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. ** ** Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? ** ** Thanks! -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Good news everyone, you have just received an e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail rant
I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some improvement. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, although it is nicer to be asked. I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old format”. I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. ** ** Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? ** ** Thanks! -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail rant
Interesting! I went hunting for perhaps a better theme, and I noticed a second cog icon. This one, rather than at the top, was to the immediate right of the icon bar. It was faint and almost lost in the glare. THAT cog let me revert temporarily, again. I'm much happier now, and I'm glad I'm not the only person who dislikes the new format. Thanks! -- richard From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee Douglas Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail rant I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some improvement. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, although it is nicer to be asked. I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the old format. I don't know what the @#* they were thinking, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? Thanks! -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT
Re: Gmail rant
Well I'll be.I never noticed that cog either. And there's me boasting about my vision. Oh the irony. On 9 January 2012 13:41, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Interesting! ** ** I went hunting for perhaps a better “theme”, and I noticed a second cog icon. This one, rather than at the top, was to the immediate right of the icon bar. It was faint and almost lost in the glare. THAT cog let me revert “temporarily”, again. ** ** I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes the new format. Thanks! -- richard ** ** *From:* leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] *On Behalf Of *Lee Douglas *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 7:35 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Gmail rant ** ** I also am not impressed. I guess, though, that you have tried changing the settings. They do offer several choices, one of which may offer some improvement. ** ** ** ** On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, although it is nicer to be asked. I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old format”. I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? Thanks! -- richard ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission.* *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets At Home yesterday. * *We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor
Re: Gmail rant
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes the new format. Far from it. Here's my rant from when Google first inflicted this upon me: RANT New color scheme uses lots of similar colors and shaded backgrounds. It also uses faint color variations where before it just had simple text/character markers (e.g., current message). The result: Loss of contrast, loss of visual cues. I find it much harder to read. Various functions I used a lot -- especially Mark as Read -- have been moved into a More drop down menu. This despite there being plenty of free space in the bar for the buttons. The label list now expands and contracts automatically when I point to it. This damages subconscious memory of where labels are. It's a moving target. Fail. When the message list is semi-collapsed (message hidden but snippets still visible), it uses at least twice as much space per message as before. The colored name labels for different people in a conversation are gone. I guess the face icons are supposed to replace that, but not everyone has a Google account with a photo, thanks. And that's just what I discovered in the first 30 seconds, before I switched back to the old look. Dear software companies everywhere, but especially Google, Microsoft, and Facebook: Stop fscking moving everything around because the latest wanker you hired thinks he can improve things 0.023% or because some focus group said gray is the new black. Leave it fscking where it is so we have a hope in heck of learning how to use it. We don't change how cars and light switches work every three years, and there's a darn good reason for that. So stop it. Just. Stop. Sincerely, Ben Scott Chief Disgruntled Officer Curmudgeons Local 151 /RANT ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail rant
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I'll be.I never noticed that cog either. And there's me boasting about my vision. Oh the irony. Vision is not observation. :-) I tell my minions that all the time. :) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail rant
I agree that the loss of contrast is a huge mistake. -- Espi On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: I’m much happier now, and I’m glad I’m not the only person who dislikes the new format. Far from it. Here's my rant from when Google first inflicted this upon me: RANT New color scheme uses lots of similar colors and shaded backgrounds. It also uses faint color variations where before it just had simple text/character markers (e.g., current message). The result: Loss of contrast, loss of visual cues. I find it much harder to read. Various functions I used a lot -- especially Mark as Read -- have been moved into a More drop down menu. This despite there being plenty of free space in the bar for the buttons. The label list now expands and contracts automatically when I point to it. This damages subconscious memory of where labels are. It's a moving target. Fail. When the message list is semi-collapsed (message hidden but snippets still visible), it uses at least twice as much space per message as before. The colored name labels for different people in a conversation are gone. I guess the face icons are supposed to replace that, but not everyone has a Google account with a photo, thanks. And that's just what I discovered in the first 30 seconds, before I switched back to the old look. Dear software companies everywhere, but especially Google, Microsoft, and Facebook: Stop fscking moving everything around because the latest wanker you hired thinks he can improve things 0.023% or because some focus group said gray is the new black. Leave it fscking where it is so we have a hope in heck of learning how to use it. We don't change how cars and light switches work every three years, and there's a darn good reason for that. So stop it. Just. Stop. Sincerely, Ben Scott Chief Disgruntled Officer Curmudgeons Local 151 /RANT ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail rant
Sounds like what people say about Mircrosoft. I am with Richard I really dislike the new format! Richard look on the right side near or next to your user ID for a round gear it should be the middle item. I believe they will be turning off the revert at some future date, I still have mine though. Jon On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I was just as annoyed at first.however I have now gotten used to it, although it is nicer to be asked. I do have very good eyesight though, to be fair. Knowing Google, they probably have removed the option to change it. Apparently they know what is best :-0 On 9 January 2012 13:08, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** I seem to have lost the ability to turn my Gmail reader back to the “old format”. I don’t know what the @#* they were “thinking”, but I simply cannot read things in that big mass of white. It is not easy to figure out what those little black smears are which were once actual text. ** ** Twice I found a link to revert. Now that option is gone. HELP??? ** ** Thanks! -- richard The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: gmail outages
He's full of it :-) AFAIK --Original Message-- From: IS Technical To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: gmail outages Sent: 7 Jul 2011 18:07 Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
It has been a little stiff the last few days - mostly when I clear out some large folders. But DOWN? No. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:07 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec __ Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: gmail outages
Haven't had any problems with my gmail account. -Original Message- From: IS Technical [mailto:ist...@intsolcan.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: gmail outages Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
I haven't had ANY problems. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: gmail outages
Negatory. -Original Message- From: IS Technical [mailto:ist...@intsolcan.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: gmail outages Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
I haven't had ANY problems. Nothing Gmail related anyway... On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't had ANY problems. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
Day0. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had ANY problems. Nothing Gmail related anyway... On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't had ANY problems. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.comwrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
I don't think that means what you think it means... lol! On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Day0. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had ANY problems. Nothing Gmail related anyway... On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't had ANY problems. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.comwrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
http://www.google.com/appsstatus -- Espi On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:07 AM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: gmail outages
No issues. Been using gmail on my Android Phone and Dell Streak 7. Working fine. On Jul 7, 2011 1:08 PM, IS Technical ist...@intsolcan.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if there have been any major Gmail outages in the last week. One if my customers uses gmail on his home system and claims that service has been down or intermittent in the last week. I haven't seen any news confirming this on the usual websites I monitor for this kind of news. Thanks. Regards, Charles --- Charles Figueiredo PhD Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems --- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
Well, it finally became available to me. I think it'll be very useful. Even with labels emails from my family tend to get buried with listserv traffic. I can fix that now and see them earlier and put more effort into ignoring them. Seriously, this has been a recurring problem from emails from my mom, they tended to get buried quite quickly and I might not see the email until I did some mass archiving of the listserv traffic. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: *I read the review in USA Today (my “news” source on the road) and it wasn’t a very good review – would be curious to hear how it is from others. * * * *Thanks,* *Brian Desmond* *br...@briandesmond.com* * * *c - 312.731.3132* * * * * *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmailhttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html—a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
I found a neat little trick that really helps me take my inbox back from all the list traffic I get. Essentially, all the list traffic gets labeled, and set to skip the inbox. I then found a google labs mod that allows you to select a few labels and show them in kind of a second inbox. So when I log into gmail, I have a top inbox with all list traffic, and the bottom inbox is the actual inbox. I like it so far. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Well, it finally became available to me. I think it'll be very useful. Even with labels emails from my family tend to get buried with listserv traffic. I can fix that now and see them earlier and put more effort into ignoring them. Seriously, this has been a recurring problem from emails from my mom, they tended to get buried quite quickly and I might not see the email until I did some mass archiving of the listserv traffic. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: *I read the review in USA Today (my “news” source on the road) and it wasn’t a very good review – would be curious to hear how it is from others. * * * *Thanks,* *Brian Desmond* *br...@briandesmond.com* * * *c - 312.731.3132* * * * * *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmailhttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html—a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
Yep, I always filter List traffic to its own area. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Christopher c.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I found a neat little trick that really helps me take my inbox back from all the list traffic I get. Essentially, all the list traffic gets labeled, and set to skip the inbox. I then found a google labs mod that allows you to select a few labels and show them in kind of a second inbox. So when I log into gmail, I have a top inbox with all list traffic, and the bottom inbox is the actual inbox. I like it so far. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Well, it finally became available to me. I think it'll be very useful. Even with labels emails from my family tend to get buried with listserv traffic. I can fix that now and see them earlier and put more effort into ignoring them. Seriously, this has been a recurring problem from emails from my mom, they tended to get buried quite quickly and I might not see the email until I did some mass archiving of the listserv traffic. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: *I read the review in USA Today (my “news” source on the road) and it wasn’t a very good review – would be curious to hear how it is from others. * * * *Thanks,* *Brian Desmond* *br...@briandesmond.com* * * *c - 312.731.3132* * * * * *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmailhttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html—a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
+N I think Ben S was the first I heard to mention that some time ago, improved my gmail experience by at least an order of magnitude From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail users: Priority Inbox Yep, I always filter List traffic to its own area. ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Christopher c.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I found a neat little trick that really helps me take my inbox back from all the list traffic I get. Essentially, all the list traffic gets labeled, and set to skip the inbox. I then found a google labs mod that allows you to select a few labels and show them in kind of a second inbox. So when I log into gmail, I have a top inbox with all list traffic, and the bottom inbox is the actual inbox. I like it so far. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it finally became available to me. I think it'll be very useful. Even with labels emails from my family tend to get buried with listserv traffic. I can fix that now and see them earlier and put more effort into ignoring them. Seriously, this has been a recurring problem from emails from my mom, they tended to get buried quite quickly and I might not see the email until I did some mass archiving of the listserv traffic. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I read the review in USA Today (my news source on the road) and it wasn't a very good review - would be curious to hear how it is from others. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmail http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox .html -a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
I also did this when I was a gmail customer. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail users: Priority Inbox +N I think Ben S was the first I heard to mention that some time ago, improved my gmail experience by at least an order of magnitude From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail users: Priority Inbox Yep, I always filter List traffic to its own area. ASB (My XeeSM Profile)http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Christopher c.bo...@gmail.commailto:c.bo...@gmail.com wrote: I found a neat little trick that really helps me take my inbox back from all the list traffic I get. Essentially, all the list traffic gets labeled, and set to skip the inbox. I then found a google labs mod that allows you to select a few labels and show them in kind of a second inbox. So when I log into gmail, I have a top inbox with all list traffic, and the bottom inbox is the actual inbox. I like it so far. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it finally became available to me. I think it'll be very useful. Even with labels emails from my family tend to get buried with listserv traffic. I can fix that now and see them earlier and put more effort into ignoring them. Seriously, this has been a recurring problem from emails from my mom, they tended to get buried quite quickly and I might not see the email until I did some mass archiving of the listserv traffic. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I read the review in USA Today (my news source on the road) and it wasn't a very good review - would be curious to hear how it is from others. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmailhttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html-a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
I read the review in USA Today (my news source on the road) and it wasn't a very good review - would be curious to hear how it is from others. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmailhttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/email-overload-try-priority-inbox.html-a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail users: Priority Inbox
Hey, I don't think I've hijacked a thread for at least a week now... I'm more curious as to how well using the Chat portion of GMail works in making telephone calls. I know it requires a plug-in, but I have yet to install and test this. -- Richard D. McClary Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group ASPCA® Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote on 08/31/2010 11:01:20 AM: I read the review in USA Today (my ?news? source on the road) and it wasn?t a very good review ? would be curious to hear how it is from others. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail users: Priority Inbox I know there are many Gmail users here, you might find this interesting. On Tuesday, Google is launching a remarkable new feature in Gmail?a system that sifts through your daily flood of incoming mail and picks out messages you're likely to deem important. The new system, called Priority Inbox, is the opposite of a spam filter. -- From http://www.slate.com/id/2265544/ I don't have the feature yet, but I am excited to try it out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software. com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gmail Detects and Warns You If Someone Else Is Using Your Account - Security - Lifehacker
Well My bank does not notify, but to use their site you have to request the Cert from them. It is fun switching computers if you do not remember to grab the cert. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Gmail Detects and Warns You If Someone Else Is Using Your Account - Security - Lifehacker At first, I thought, 'brilliant' Then a few seconds later I was wondering why more services don't do this IP calculation all the time. Say... banks? http://lifehacker.com/5501131/gmail-detects-and-warns-you-if-someone-else-is-using-your-account Sam ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: GMail and This List
Sure. The one in your sent items from gmail and the one that the listserv sent you. You can disable the one the listserv sends you on your posting options console at sunbelt. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GMail and This List When I reply to a message on this list and later review the conversation I always see two postings from me. Can anyone tell me why? Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: GMail and This List
Ahhh... thanks! (twice - grin) Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Sure. The one in your sent items from gmail and the one that the listserv sent you. You can disable the one the listserv sends you on your posting options console at sunbelt. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GMail and This List When I reply to a message on this list and later review the conversation I always see two postings from me. Can anyone tell me why? Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail passwords
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Peter van Houtenpeter...@gmail.com wrote: Security heads up. From last month but only came to my notice today. http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0254.html Short version: Gmail's interface for POP3 clients is relatively unguarded against brute-force password cracking attempts. If you don't have POP3 enabled you're safe. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail passwords
I sent the link because unless you read the article completely, it can be confusing. As I read it, the POP3 weakness is just used to reveal the passwords, once you have those, you can obviously access any Gmail account via HTTP or POP3. -- Peter van Houten On the 06/08/2009 15:41, Ben Scott wrote the following: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Peter van Houtenpeter...@gmail.com wrote: Security heads up. From last month but only came to my notice today. http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jul/0254.html Short version: Gmail's interface for POP3 clients is relatively unguarded against brute-force password cracking attempts. If you don't have POP3 enabled you're safe. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail passwords
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Peter van Houtenpeter...@gmail.com wrote: As I read it, the POP3 weakness is just used to reveal the passwords, once you have those, you can obviously access any Gmail account via HTTP or POP3. Right, but if the targeted account has POP3 disabled, then the initial brute forcing won't work, I presume. Attempting to brute force via the web UI quickly leads to automated countermeasures, such as CAPTCHAs, IP blocking, etc. But this report claims the POP3 interface only blocks after 100 failed attempts, and only for two hours. So the POP3 interface is less guarded than the web UI. Strong passwords will also help. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. OMG, it's *s* much better now! (To quote Homer Simpson, In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic.) ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
No beta here. wow From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jon Harrisjk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Mine still shows as Beta. I've seen in the past that Google's systems take a while to propagate changes. Given the purported size and distribution of their IT infrastructure, that doesn't surprise me. They have an official blog entry about it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-apps-is-out-of-beta-yes-really.html Pretty content-free. Although -- and I swear I'm not making this up -- they do say there is a user option to put the Beta label back in the logo. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
Just do a full browser refresh On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
I'll literally LoL if they have a widespread outage today. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. OMG, it's *s* much better now! (To quote Homer Simpson, In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic.) ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
That worked guess they did the change sometime since 4 am today. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Kevin Lundy klu...@gmail.com wrote: Just do a full browser refresh On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
LOL yeah is does. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
They are now collector's items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector's items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Upper left under the gmail logo used to say beta From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector's items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. *Murray * -- *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Gmail They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay. -sc *From:* Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
So has Outlook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.orgmailto:mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector's items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.commailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook…. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.orgmailto:mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.commailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook…. From:Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From:Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Gmail They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay. -sc From:Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From:Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
That explains why so many clients are calling me to get them off Exchange and onto Groupwi� ���oh wait, I think I said that backwards. ;-) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook���. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collectos items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, wel finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Hey - I said fully-featured. (No intent to start a war here. :-) ) From: Tom Miller [tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook…. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.orgmailto:mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.commailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Seriously? Exchange has most of the market but GW is so easy to manage. Some of the features are different than Exchange, but it is definitely a full-featured client. Whatever works for my employer is what they get... Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com 7/7/2009 7:44 PM That explains why so many clients are calling me to get them off Exchange and onto Groupwis Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com ( http://www.rolandschorr.com/ ) b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr From:Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From:David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outloo. From:Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From:Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Gmail They are now collects items. Put them on ebay. -sc From:Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From:Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, wel finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
I have to second Michael's sentiment. Outlook has rocked for years. I've yet to find anything as remotely slick as Outlook/Exchange... particular for multiple-PC/multiple-location/mobile folks. IMAP didn't even really come close... and I tried hard to make it. -sc From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector's items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well... finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Exchange != Outlook AnywaI dunno what you are doing, but with proper admin, Exchange doesn���t either. -sc From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outloo. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collect�s items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, we� finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
Well, that's true, I am definitely of the opinion that whatever works but to be honest...in the last 5 years I've had ZERO calls to replace Exchange with Groupwise and probably a dozen or more who wanted to replace Groupwise with Exchange. Your mileage may vary, of course. :-) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail Seriously? Exchange has most of the market but GW is so easy to manage. Some of the features are different than Exchange, but it is definitely a full-featured client. Whatever works for my employer is what they get... Ben Schorr b...@rolandschorr.com 7/7/2009 7:44 PM That explains why so many clients are calling me to get them off Exchange and onto Groupwis Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com http://www.rolandschorr.com/ b...@rolandschorr.com mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bschorr From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outloo. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collects items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, wel finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Ben Schorrb...@rolandschorr.com wrote: That explains why so many clients are calling me to get them off Exchange and onto Groupwis Popularity generally isn't a reflection of technical merit. Just look at television or popular music. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Gmail
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com wrote: Outlook has rocked for years. Outlook isn't terribly good at anything in particular. There are better email programs. There are better calendar programs. There are better task managers. Outlook's strengths lie in integration, having everything in one program, which a lot of people like, and has some benefits in terms of information sharing. IMAP didn’t even really come close… and I tried hard to make it. IMAP's a protocol, not a program. Outlook even supports IMAP. So, um: Huh? :) If you're trying to say that it's hard to find a good IMAP client, I agree. Harder still to find one that has lots of power *and also* does offline caching well. I've never really found one that did everything I wanted to and also did offline caching well. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
It has its flaws, but it re-defined the way email/contacts/calendar were done, and as far as I'm concerned, does them more seamlessly than just about any other program. It's not too hard to find many other programs that are trying to be like Outlook. Now admittedly it's best when running with an Exchange back-end, and yes, I was using the IMAP as a generic catch-all to mean other IMAP mailer front ends... you left out the part where I mentioned the many location/machine part. Outlook-MAPI-Exchange has no equals I've found when it comes to having a single view of all my PIM data everywhere that's all synced, all the time. Of course, YMMV. Void where prohibited. Do not fold, spindle or mutilate. -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com wrote: Outlook has rocked for years. Outlook isn't terribly good at anything in particular. There are better email programs. There are better calendar programs. There are better task managers. Outlook's strengths lie in integration, having everything in one program, which a lot of people like, and has some benefits in terms of information sharing. IMAP didn't even really come close... and I tried hard to make it. IMAP's a protocol, not a program. Outlook even supports IMAP. So, um: Huh? :) If you're trying to say that it's hard to find a good IMAP client, I agree. Harder still to find one that has lots of power *and also* does offline caching well. I've never really found one that did everything I wanted to and also did offline caching well. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail
It was a joke on my part, I couldn't resist the jab. In all honesty I use Outlook everywhere (work, home, clients) and have no issues with it. Same for IE. Same for XP / Vista. They're popular to shoot fun at, but for me, what I do day in and day out, it's no problem. I figure the more frequent patching, etc is probably equivalent to the time to make other than MS options work in a largely MS environment. We have many Mac users in my office, and while they gloat about not having vulnerabilites to speak of, they bitch that stuff from PC's doesn't always work on their Mac's and vice versa. I tried to migrate a (45 user) client to 100% FireFox (back at version 1.1). Another cleint (20 users) I tried to go to 100% Foxit Reader. Guess what, there was enough incompatibility that ultimately it wasn't worth the effort in either case. There are times with go with what you know actually IS a time and effort saver. Much of my time is making 3rd party apps work with Microsoft's stuff - weather I should be blaming Microsoft or the 3rd patry vendor depends entirely upon which side of the fence you're on :-). Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@owa.smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail Hey - I said fully-featured. (No intent to start a war here. :-) ) From: Tom Miller [tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail GroupWise. Never goes down (on Windows/Linux/Netware). Been doing GW admin for many years, many versions. (Exchange admin as well but I can't say Exchange didn't go down, but I hear 2010 is real good.) Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com 7/7/2009 7:35 PM Oh? And what fully-featured Email/PIM do you find to be more stable than Outlook? From: David Lum [david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail So has Outlook…. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Gmail has been beta for years.. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.orgmailto:mfree...@alanet.org wrote: How do I tell if I'm still in beta? I don't use my account very often and I don't remember any beta notification. Murray From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail They are now collector’s items. Put them on ebay. -sc From: Devin Meade [mailto:devin.me...@gmail.commailto:devin.me...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Refresh took mine out of beta. Hey I only have 96 gmail invites left. What happened to the bazillion I had? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: I guess that shows what they think of you. -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Gmail Mine still shows as Beta. Jon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Well, well, well… finally out of beta. -sc -- Devin -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail Organization
Never mind... FILTERS is the magic word. Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail Organization Is there a way to have Gmail auto-label messages as they're received, much the way Outlook rules will move to folders upon receipt? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ Nobody in the game of football should be called a genius. A genius is somebody like Norman Einstein. - Joe Theismann ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpg
Re: Gmail Organization
Yeah, it's called labels. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: Is there a way to have Gmail auto-label messages as they’re received, much the way Outlook rules will move to folders upon receipt? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 [image: ET E-mail Signature Logo] _ Nobody in the game of football should be called a genius. A genius is somebody like Norman Einstein. - Joe Theismann -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image003.jpg
RE: Gmail Organization
That should be in the Filters section. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=6579 From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gmail Organization Is there a way to have Gmail auto-label messages as they're received, much the way Outlook rules will move to folders upon receipt? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ Nobody in the game of football should be called a genius. A genius is somebody like Norman Einstein. - Joe Theismann ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpg
Re: Gmail Organization
LOL -- ME2 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it's called labels. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: Is there a way to have Gmail auto-label messages as they’re received, much the way Outlook rules will move to folders upon receipt? Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ Nobody in the game of football should be called a genius. A genius is somebody like Norman Einstein. - Joe Theismann -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue?
I seem to remember using a forgotten password option there some time ago I'm sure there was a 5 day wait and then I had to try again, then it went through the security question and then reset it Still no human contact though ...Spence From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 February 2008 03:36 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue? I've got another gmail box/address with an unknown password. All mail sent to it appears in this mailbox, so I must have set it to forward at some point. I want regain access to it and change that setting. Password reset e-mails don't deliver anywhere I can access - I have no idea what the secondary e-mail address might have been, probably an ISP I left a long time ago. Attempts to use their contact us form just result in the same form message we fixed the problem, try again, and of course nothing is changed. Is there some trick to getting human-based help from gmail? Carl __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ This is a confidential email. StarCase may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not StarCase. StarCase (UK) Ltd Trading Address: Berkeley Business Park, Wainwright Road, Worcester WR4 9FA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company Number: 2075324 Registered in England Registered Office: Sterling House, Fulbourne Road, London E17 4EE VAT Registration Number: GB 455 2071 64 __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue?
In some places they say 5-day wait, in other places they say 1-day wait. The 5 day wait is to prove that nobody else is actually using the account. Either my account is active for reasons I know not, or activity includes what is is now doing without any human involvement - forwarding mail received to another gmail box. The first time I tried this I waited much longer than 5 days - probably more like 10 days - but I still didn't get any security question. I even tried using the somebody else has stolen my account submission (which would keep the account active and make password reset impossible if the secondary E-mail wasn't known), but all I got back was the same canned response and no change. I know they're aiming to make a self-service system, but they need to have a human at least monitoring that processing and able to intervene when needed. Carl _ From: Spencer Read [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue? I seem to remember using a forgotten password option there some time ago I'm sure there was a 5 day wait and then I had to try again, then it went through the security question and then reset it Still no human contact though ...Spence From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 February 2008 03:36 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue? I've got another gmail box/address with an unknown password. All mail sent to it appears in this mailbox, so I must have set it to forward at some point. I want regain access to it and change that setting. Password reset e-mails don't deliver anywhere I can access - I have no idea what the secondary e-mail address might have been, probably an ISP I left a long time ago. Attempts to use their contact us form just result in the same form message we fixed the problem, try again, and of course nothing is changed. Is there some trick to getting human-based help from gmail? Carl __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ _ This is a confidential email. StarCase may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not StarCase. StarCase (UK) Ltd Trading Address: Berkeley Business Park, Wainwright Road, Worcester WR4 9FA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company Number: 2075324 Registered in England Registered Office: Sterling House, Fulbourne Road, London E17 4EE VAT Registration Number: GB 455 2071 64 __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Gmail - how do you get a human to help with an account issue?
Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/29/2008 08:45:24 AM: I know they're aiming to make a self-service system, but they need to have a human at least monitoring that processing and able to intervene when needed. No they don't. Yahoo is just as bad in this regard. Once I locked myself out of a Yahoo account that had some stuff I needed to be able to get to, I decided that the free systems were just too expensive. I set up an account with Apples .Mac (I have several Mac's at home too) and haven't looked back. On the few occasions I have needed assistance, I was able to get it. It sometimes takes more then 24 hours, but I do get a response from a real human. For less then $10 a month, I get an ISP agnostic email account, and bunches of other benefits - esp. with OSX 10.5 - but I was happy with just the stable email support. There are other fee based email systems out there that cost less - I think if you look around you can find something that will give you a human for support - I just like the mix of features I get with .Mac. I have a gmail account I use for stuff I don't care about and as a throw away address, but I would never do anything important in there... Eric Eskam =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange protein; it rejects it. - P. B. Medawar ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: GMail goofiness
Ah OK. Do you only see this is message that are FROM you? On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0 (lyris rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the image :( ). This shows 3 messages in the thread. The first one is collapsed b/c it is too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just like in the third message. In the 2nd message, the names are bolded. I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've seen message with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded while others are not (in the same message). Unfortunately can't find example in my mailbox right now. Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the thread to have bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now (while looking for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the thread to have bold names. So far I figured out that bolding does not mean: * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users, yahoo, and others... * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user somewhere else: see attached screenshot, name Gregory. On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to me. Only if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in bold. Can you provide a screenshot? On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I was vague. I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the message (I.e. when you have a single thread open, or a single message if there is only one in the thread). I sometimes see bolded recepients regardless if this is the first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread. The help center reference below is about multiple threads being listed in inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread message. Then the name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is bolded to indicate the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was trying to ask. On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Gmail Help Center: Use the check boxes to select conversations, and then perform actions on those selected conversations. Add stars to important messages or conversations. You can view all your starred mail by clicking Starred. Names of message senders are listed on the left. Unread messages are bolded. The total number of messages is listed in parentheses. All labels appear in the bottom left corner. Gmail displays snippets -- a line of text next to each message that reveals a bit of the content of the most recent message. The time or date the most recent message in a conversation arrived is displayed on the far right of a conversation line. Dates appear when messages are older than 24 hours. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Bensman Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GMail goofiness Speaking of GMail... Has anyone figured out why GMail now displays certain recepients bold in a message? I can't quite figure out the pattern. Googling doesn't produce any clear explanation... On 2/4/08, Chris Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Creamy Spam Broccoli Casserole for you! From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Gmail must not deem me worthy. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 14:28 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes.. Upper left corner, above Delete forever is where is shows up. Bob Fronk From: Christopher J.. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Hmm... am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 13:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness
Re: GMail goofiness
Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is Gene to bme/b, Albert (i.e. only me is bolded) and in the same thread, another message Lenny Bensman to bLuba/b, Albert (i.e. FROM me to two recipients, one of which is bolded). And this also shows the case that I mentioned in the previous message where only some recipients are bolded, not all or none. It's very mysterious feature... Lenny On 2/5/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah OK. Do you only see this is message that are FROM you? On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0 (lyris rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the image :( ). This shows 3 messages in the thread. The first one is collapsed b/c it is too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just like in the third message. In the 2nd message, the names are bolded. I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've seen message with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded while others are not (in the same message). Unfortunately can't find example in my mailbox right now. Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the thread to have bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now (while looking for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the thread to have bold names. So far I figured out that bolding does not mean: * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users, yahoo, and others... * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user somewhere else: see attached screenshot, name Gregory. On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to me. Only if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in bold. Can you provide a screenshot? On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I was vague. I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the message (I.e. when you have a single thread open, or a single message if there is only one in the thread). I sometimes see bolded recepients regardless if this is the first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread. The help center reference below is about multiple threads being listed in inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread message. Then the name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is bolded to indicate the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was trying to ask. On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Gmail Help Center: Use the check boxes to select conversations, and then perform actions on those selected conversations. Add stars to important messages or conversations. You can view all your starred mail by clicking Starred. Names of message senders are listed on the left. Unread messages are bolded. The total number of messages is listed in parentheses. All labels appear in the bottom left corner. Gmail displays snippets -- a line of text next to each message that reveals a bit of the content of the most recent message. The time or date the most recent message in a conversation arrived is displayed on the far right of a conversation line. Dates appear when messages are older than 24 hours. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Bensman Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GMail goofiness Speaking of GMail... Has anyone figured out why GMail now displays certain recepients bold in a message? I can't quite figure out the pattern. Googling doesn't produce any clear explanation... On 2/4/08, Chris Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Creamy Spam Broccoli Casserole for you! From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Gmail must not deem me worthy. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 14:28 hrs To: NT System Admin
Re: GMail goofiness
Interesting idea, but doesn't appear to be so. Just looked through my various messages, and I see bolding happen for to's and for cc's with no discernable pattern. On 2/5/08, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 8:55 AM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is Gene to bme/b, Albert (i.e. only me is bolded) and in the same thread, another message Lenny Bensman to bLuba/b, Albert (i.e. FROM me to two recipients, one of which is bolded). Perhaps Gmail is bolding recipients mentioned in the To header but not Cc or Bcc? Just a guess; this bolding doesn't seem to happen for me at all. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: GMail goofiness
Well, it just bold me, but other people as well. And I have instances of conversation with lots of recepients bolded that have not contributed to the conversation. Personal indeed, but mysterious is a more relevant descriptor here :) On 2/5/08, James Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't it just bold the me in conversations you have contributed to? That's how it seems to work for me It appears that Gmail is a very personal experience :- On 05/02/2008, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, I just found another thread in my inbox where one message is Gene to bme/b, Albert (i.e. only me is bolded) and in the same thread, another message Lenny Bensman to bLuba/b, Albert (i.e. FROM me to two recipients, one of which is bolded). And this also shows the case that I mentioned in the previous message where only some recipients are bolded, not all or none. It's very mysterious feature... Lenny On 2/5/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah OK. Do you only see this is message that are FROM you? On Feb 4, 2008 9:53 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Screenshot at http://download.yousendit.com/47C586B26F8234B0(lyris rejects attachments, and I'm using GMail, so I can't embed the image :( ). This shows 3 messages in the thread. The first one is collapsed b/c it is too big to fit in a screenshot, but the name is not bolded just like in the third message. In the 2nd message, the names are bolded. I couldn't find a better example, but I'm dead sure that I've seen message with multiple recepients, and only some recepients are bolded while others are not (in the same message). Unfortunately can't find example in my mailbox right now. Also pretty sure i've seen the very first message in the thread to have bolded names, but i've been looking through my messages now (while looking for a good example), and haven't seen the first message in the thread to have bold names. So far I figured out that bolding does not mean: * another user who uses gmail - it highlights gmail users, yahoo, and others... * It doesn't imply that there is unread message from that user somewhere else: see attached screenshot, name Gregory. On 2/4/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to me. Only if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in bold. Can you provide a screenshot? On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I was vague. I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the message (I.e. when you have a single thread open, or a single message if there is only one in the thread). I sometimes see bolded recepients regardless if this is the first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread. The help center reference below is about multiple threads being listed in inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread message. Then the name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is bolded to indicate the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was trying to ask. On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Gmail Help Center: Use the check boxes to select conversations, and then perform actions on those selected conversations. Add stars to important messages or conversations. You can view all your starred mail by clicking Starred. Names of message senders are listed on the left. Unread messages are bolded. The total number of messages is listed in parentheses. All labels appear in the bottom left corner. Gmail displays snippets -- a line of text next to each message that reveals a bit of the content of the most recent message. The time or date the most recent message in a conversation arrived is displayed on the far right of a conversation line. Dates appear when messages are older than 24 hours. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Bensman Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GMail goofiness Speaking of GMail... Has anyone figured out why GMail now displays certain recepients bold
Re: GMail goofiness
] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Bensman Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GMail goofiness Speaking of GMail... Has anyone figured out why GMail now displays certain recepients bold in a message? I can't quite figure out the pattern. Googling doesn't produce any clear explanation... On 2/4/08, Chris Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Creamy Spam Broccoli Casserole for you! From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Gmail must not deem me worthy. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 14:28 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes.. Upper left corner, above Delete forever is where is shows up. Bob Fronk From: Christopher J.. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Hmm... am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 13:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes. Spam Skillet Casserole Yum. Bob Fronk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: GMail goofiness Has anyone else noticed that, when cleaning out the Spam folder in GMail, Google provides you a link to Spam recipes? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read
RE: GMail goofiness
Yes. Spam Skillet Casserole Yum. Bob Fronk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: GMail goofiness Has anyone else noticed that, when cleaning out the Spam folder in GMail, Google provides you a link to Spam recipes? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: GMail goofiness
Yes.. Upper left corner, above Delete forever is where is shows up. Bob Fronk From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Hmm... am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 13:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes. Spam Skillet Casserole Yum. Bob Fronk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: GMail goofiness Has anyone else noticed that, when cleaning out the Spam folder in GMail, Google provides you a link to Spam recipes? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~image001.png
Re: GMail goofiness
Ah, I just realized... What I sdescribed is the message/thread view. If you are looking in a container view (Inbox, Spam, Trash, etc), names will be bold if there is a new message from them in that thread. Messages from people that have been read will not be in bold. On Feb 4, 2008 5:01 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the 'hidden details' vew, names always appear bolded to me. Only if I expand the view to 'show details' do I see names not in bold. Can you provide a screenshot? On Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM, Lenny Bensman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I was vague. I meant the actual names of the recepients in the top of the message (I.e. when you have a single thread open, or a single message if there is only one in the thread). I sometimes see bolded recepients regardless if this is the first time, or n-th time that I open the message / thread. The help center reference below is about multiple threads being listed in inbox (or some label) where a thread contains an unread message. Then the name of the sender, as oppose to that of recepient, is bolded to indicate the unread message - that I know, and that is not what I was trying to ask. On 2/4/08, Christopher Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the Gmail Help Center: Use the check boxes to select conversations, and then perform actions on those selected conversations. Add stars to important messages or conversations. You can view all your starred mail by clicking Starred. Names of message senders are listed on the left. Unread messages are bolded. The total number of messages is listed in parentheses. All labels appear in the bottom left corner. Gmail displays snippets -- a line of text next to each message that reveals a bit of the content of the most recent message. The time or date the most recent message in a conversation arrived is displayed on the far right of a conversation line. Dates appear when messages are older than 24 hours. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lenny Bensman Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GMail goofiness Speaking of GMail... Has anyone figured out why GMail now displays certain recepients bold in a message? I can't quite figure out the pattern. Googling doesn't produce any clear explanation... On 2/4/08, Chris Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Creamy Spam Broccoli Casserole for you! From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Gmail must not deem me worthy. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 14:28 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes.. Upper left corner, above Delete forever is where is shows up. Bob Fronk From: Christopher J.. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Hmm... am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 13:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GMail goofiness Yes. Spam Skillet Casserole Yum. Bob Fronk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: GMail goofiness Has anyone else noticed that, when cleaning out the Spam folder in GMail, Google provides you a link to Spam recipes? -- Richard McClary, Systems Administrator ASPCA Knowledge Management 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL 61802 217-337-9761 http://www.aspca.org ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Davis H. Elliot Company company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss
