Re: VMWare tools
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Are you upgrading the virtual devices within the VMs as well? Do you mean upgrading the virtual hardware? No, not until all servers in the cluster are at the same version. Else the VMs would be limited as to which ESX(i) host they could run on. -sc -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. That's what I always do. Sometimes the upgrade to a new version takes 10 minutes to do, sometimes it takes 1 minute, sometimes it just doesn't seem to do it ... since we're in the process of upgrading to v5, and I have 100 VMs, and each VMTools upgrade requires a reboot, I foresee much fun ... and upgrading the virtual hardware version to the latest v8 is another shutdown (not just a reboot) ... From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
RE: VMWare tools
Are you upgrading the virtual devices within the VMs as well? -sc -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. That's what I always do. Sometimes the upgrade to a new version takes 10 minutes to do, sometimes it takes 1 minute, sometimes it just doesn't seem to do it ... since we're in the process of upgrading to v5, and I have 100 VMs, and each VMTools upgrade requires a reboot, I foresee much fun ... and upgrading the virtual hardware version to the latest v8 is another shutdown (not just a reboot) ... From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information
Re: VMWare tools
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. That's what I always do. Sometimes the upgrade to a new version takes 10 minutes to do, sometimes it takes 1 minute, sometimes it just doesn't seem to do it ... since we're in the process of upgrading to v5, and I have 100 VMs, and each VMTools upgrade requires a reboot, I foresee much fun ... and upgrading the virtual hardware version to the latest v8 is another shutdown (not just a reboot) ... From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly
Re: VMWare tools
Here's an idea... No idea if it would work, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Copy the contents of that CD to a fileshare, install from that share. Don't have to deal with the CD being mounted properly or autorun. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. That's what I always do. Sometimes the upgrade to a new version takes 10 minutes to do, sometimes it takes 1 minute, sometimes it just doesn't seem to do it ... since we're in the process of upgrading to v5, and I have 100 VMs, and each VMTools upgrade requires a reboot, I foresee much fun ... and upgrading the virtual hardware version to the latest v8 is another shutdown (not just a reboot) ... From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VMWare tools
That works. At least it does on ESX 3.5. It's also an MSI file so it can be deployed with group policy, which is very helpful. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Here's an idea... No idea if it would work, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Copy the contents of that CD to a fileshare, install from that share. Don't have to deal with the CD being mounted properly or autorun. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.commailto:oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. That's what I always do. Sometimes the upgrade to a new version takes 10 minutes to do, sometimes it takes 1 minute, sometimes it just doesn't seem to do it ... since we're in the process of upgrading to v5, and I have 100 VMs, and each VMTools upgrade requires a reboot, I foresee much fun ... and upgrading the virtual hardware version to the latest v8 is another shutdown (not just a reboot) ... From: richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.commailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182tel:217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
Re: VMWare tools
I've seen this on a few random installs, usually installing it interactivly solves the problem. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 08:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary�, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest�, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VMWare tools
I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VMWare tools
Does it need AutoPlay? Did you browse to the CD drive and run setup from there? Last time I used it, it just basically inserted a virtual CD - may have changed for the better since then however. On 24 February 2012 13:09, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. ** ** Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. ** ** Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. ** ** In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) ** ** Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT
RE: VMWare tools
Interesting, and a previous reply hinted along these lines. This is a straight server, not a TermServer box. The ESXi system hosting this is a half-continent away, so opening a direct console is painful (mouse lag turns it into the world's most tedious video game). Hopefully, I can find the install files somewhere on the vCenter host. From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying
RE: VMWare tools
We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VMWare tools
I've noticed that there are times that the autorun doesn't pop up the installer. I'm able to go to the virtual cd and install it, though. AFAIK, the command to install VMWare tools just loads the virtual CD into the virtual drive, and some interaction is necessary, or even advisable... On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Greetings! ** ** Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. ** ** Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. ** ** Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. ** ** In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) ** ** Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VMWare tools
Can't you just mount the CD and do the install from RDP? It might work without a console connection - you could try the /admin RDP switch as well. On 24 February 2012 13:40, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Interesting, and a previous reply hinted along these lines. ** ** This is a “straight” server, not a TermServer box. ** ** The ESXi system hosting this is a half-continent away, so opening a direct console is painful (mouse lag turns it into the world’s most tedious video game). Hopefully, I can find the install files somewhere on the vCenter host. ** ** *From:* Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 7:23 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools ** ** I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them.*** * ** ** For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? ** ** *From:* Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* VMWare tools ** ** Greetings! ** ** Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. ** ** Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. ** ** Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. ** ** In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) ** ** Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org ** ** ** ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: VMWare tools
OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http
RE: VMWare tools
Start the VM tools install as normal, all that does is mount the CD through Virtualcenter and Auto fires the Setup.exe if It can. So instead to do a manual, start the install process so it mounts the CD then RDP to the machine and then run setup.exe yourself, pretty much a next,next,finish install From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]mailto:[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.commailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org]mailto:[mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any
Re: VMWare tools
Choose Install VMWare Tools as normal, then RDP to the server and look in the CD drive, IIRC On 24 February 2012 14:00, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? ** ** *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools ** ** We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. -- From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them.*** * For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? *From:* Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions
RE: VMWare tools
Thanks! On the one hand, I had finally figured this out (that is, the installer simply mounts a DVD installer image). Things were going well (and I had chosen the installer for the 64-bit version), when it failed with a kernel driver error (vmrawdsk)... Two of us checking it out now, but... Thank you, List! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Can't you just mount the CD and do the install from RDP? It might work without a console connection - you could try the /admin RDP switch as well. On 24 February 2012 13:40, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Interesting, and a previous reply hinted along these lines. This is a straight server, not a TermServer box. The ESXi system hosting this is a half-continent away, so opening a direct console is painful (mouse lag turns it into the world's most tedious video game). Hopefully, I can find the install files somewhere on the vCenter host. From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.commailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182tel:217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system
RE: VMWare tools
I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: VMWare tools
OK - the guy on-site gave the VM its 4-5 reboot of the day. It got installed now. Thanks again! From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Thanks! On the one hand, I had finally figured this out (that is, the installer simply mounts a DVD installer image). Things were going well (and I had chosen the installer for the 64-bit version), when it failed with a kernel driver error (vmrawdsk)... Two of us checking it out now, but... Thank you, List! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Can't you just mount the CD and do the install from RDP? It might work without a console connection - you could try the /admin RDP switch as well. On 24 February 2012 13:40, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Interesting, and a previous reply hinted along these lines. This is a straight server, not a TermServer box. The ESXi system hosting this is a half-continent away, so opening a direct console is painful (mouse lag turns it into the world's most tedious video game). Hopefully, I can find the install files somewhere on the vCenter host. From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.commailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182tel:217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761tel:217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination
RE: VMWare tools
Well, that is precisely what had been failing. As others have pointed out, when that fails, the installer is still mounted as a virtual DVD on the VM. One browses that for the installer. It's fixed now; and thank you. From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up - how does one do a manual install? From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I've yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them. For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what's going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM's, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, Summary, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then Guest, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM's on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM's? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.orgmailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.orghttp://www.aspca.org/ The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals(r) (ASPCA(r)) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me
Re: VMWare tools
There is a setting to update vmtools on reboot. We used to have that enabled until vmware had a bug or two that allowed anyone to initate an update (causing weird outages on some servers). Since then we disable that until we do a back end upgrade. Then just run a script to enable it when we do server patching and disable it again afterwards. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: Well, that is precisely what had been failing. ** ** As others have pointed out, when that fails, the installer is still mounted as a virtual DVD on the VM. One browses that for the installer.** ** ** ** It’s fixed now; and thank you. ** ** *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools ** ** I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. -- From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. -- From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them.*** * For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? *From:* Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
Re: VMWare tools
Disconnect the CD/DVD drive on the VM? That's where I've usually found my problem. Kurt On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 05:09, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA® 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VMWare tools
I've had this happen occasionally on some VMs too. I was thinking disabled autoplay might be the cause of this, but haven't gotten around to testing the theory. Jeff On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.org wrote: Well, that is precisely what had been failing. ** ** As others have pointed out, when that fails, the installer is still mounted as a virtual DVD on the VM. One browses that for the installer.** ** ** ** It’s fixed now; and thank you. ** ** *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:51 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools ** ** I just make a console connection to the server, then at the top, click on the VM drop-down menu, click on Guest and select Install\Upgrade VMWare tools. -- From: richard.mccl...@aspca.org To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:00:17 + Subject: RE: VMWare tools OK, I give up – how does one do a manual install? *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 7:44 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: VMWare tools We're on v4.1, and I always have to manually install the tools thru vcenter. It's not a big deal to me since I don't create that many servers. And on that note, I am so glad we finally got a virtual solution in place. Instead of the get quote for a new server, order it, set it up now it's Okay, give me an hour or two and I'll have it up and running. -- From: cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:08 + I’ve yet to find an issue installing tools on any server, Ubuntu, Windows (NT,2000,2003,2008) that being said, sometimes servers like Terminal Servers might have an issue timing out unless you switch modes on them.*** * For the most part I always open up a direct console onto the servers log on and then fire up the tools install so I can see what’s going on, most are done within 5-10 minutes. Have you looked into the Event logs on the server? Maybe an Autorun issue? On the ones that failed have you tried a mount CD and then do the tools manually (next,next,finish)? *From:* Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2012 8:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* VMWare tools Greetings! Why is it that on some VMWare VM’s, VMTools will not install? I can find no errors nor any consistency. Locally, we are currently running ESX 3.5. I see the failure for VMTools to install on some Windows 2003 machines. On others, created at about the same time (within a day or two), VMTools installs on them quickly with no issues. Several weeks back, I created my first Windows 2008 server on an ESX 4.1 system. In vCenter, I gave the command to install VMTools. Only recently did I log back into that particular VMWare environment. I happened to check on the server I had created. In vCenter, “Summary”, it shows that VMTools were not installed. In vCenter, clicking that VM, then “Guest”, I see I have only the option to cancel the installation. (Likewise on the ESX 3.5 VM’s on which VMTools would not install.) Again, anybody know why VMTools simply will not install on some VM’s? -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group *ASPCA®* 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail
VMWare tools
I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
VCB is all you need to backup and restore. Pretty sure it works with ESXi? From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
Nope. vRanger 3.X can use VCB, but is not required. In 4.X VCB isn't even supported (yet). http://supportforums.vizioncore.com/thread.jspa?messageID=83870#83870 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com http://mail2web.com/ - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
Actually esXpress from phd virtual doesn't. -- Sent using BlackBerry - Original Message - From: mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Sep 30 13:11:42 2009 Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
2nd that Esxpress is a very good inexpensive VM backup software. It's host based so you only buy what you need and with the advent of their new version they centralized some stuff before that you had to config each host for backup, been using it for quite a while and compared to the rest I feel it wins hands down tech wise From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Actually esXpress from phd virtual doesn't. -- Sent using BlackBerry - Original Message - From: mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Sep 30 13:11:42 2009 Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. Sam -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. I have 10 ESX hosts. I don't do VCB backups at all; I backup each VM exactly as I did when it was a physical host (i.e., using Networker installed in the VM). So I don't need the VMs to be quiescent, before backup (which wouldn't happen here, anyway). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
Are you backing up SQL and /or Exchange and are you quiescing your snapshots? Original Message: - From: Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:39:43 -0500 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VMWare tools I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. Sam -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
That's fine if you have a small number to backup. The problem begins when you have a large number of VM's to backup. When you have agents installed in your VM's then the processing overhead can significantly affect the performance of your ESX host. With backup proxy the backup processing is done on the backup proxy instead of ESX host. Original Message: - From: Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. I have 10 ESX hosts. I don't do VCB backups at all; I backup each VM exactly as I did when it was a physical host (i.e., using Networker installed in the VM). So I don't need the VMs to be quiescent, before backup (which wouldn't happen here, anyway). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWare tools
Works fine for me in 4.x There are certain new features that aren't supported with the current version of VCB like if you set up a new guest using an IDE controller instead of scsi. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Nope. vRanger 3.X can use VCB, but is not required. In 4.X VCB isn't even supported (yet). http://supportforums.vizioncore.com/thread.jspa?messageID=83870#83870 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com http://mail2web.com/ - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: VMWare tools
I was using regular client backups as well, but a recent MotherBoard failure on my ESX host left me high and dry for 36 hours because rebuilding 4 servers and reinstalling them only to back them up and restore them back to the original host was going to be a pretty big hassle not to mention having a full day of email and SQL logs out of sync with the most current backup set. So I figured that if I had some host based backup solution, I could be back online in a couple of hours instead of 16. (no reinstalling, no patching and then restoring from backup) On paper, VMs are great, see, I can rebuild a server in a fraction of the time of a PM, but now I have to rebuild all of my servers in a 4x fraction. I'm curious about real life experience with these live snapshot backups. Do they boot up and behave properly when they are running live databases like Exchange and SQL? Bill On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. I have 10 ESX hosts. I don't do VCB backups at all; I backup each VM exactly as I did when it was a physical host (i.e., using Networker installed in the VM). So I don't need the VMs to be quiescent, before backup (which wouldn't happen here, anyway). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: That's fine if you have a small number to backup. About 60 The problem begins when you have a large number of VM's to backup. When you have agents installed in your VM's then the processing overhead can significantly affect the performance of your ESX host. With backup proxy the backup processing is done on the backup proxy instead of ESX host. Hmmm ... I will think on that. Thanks! Original Message: - From: Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:52:11 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. I have 10 ESX hosts. I don't do VCB backups at all; I backup each VM exactly as I did when it was a physical host (i.e., using Networker installed in the VM). So I don't need the VMs to be quiescent, before backup (which wouldn't happen here, anyway). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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You're using VCB with vRanger 4? Their website states (and their support folks have confirmed several times) that VCB is not yet supported in vRanger 4. Are you running a beta? If you can use VCB now with a production version of vRanger 4 then I'll flip the switch and upgrade. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Works fine for me in 4.x There are certain new features that aren't supported with the current version of VCB like if you set up a new guest using an IDE controller instead of scsi. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Nope. vRanger 3.X can use VCB, but is not required. In 4.X VCB isn't even supported (yet). http://supportforums.vizioncore.com/thread.jspa?messageID=83870#83870 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com http://mail2web.com/ - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Just to reiterate. It is *not* necessary to use VCB with all 3rd party backup products for VMWare. Veeam and vRanger both have the option to do network backups. The benefit of VCB is that your proxy is hooked straight into the LUNs and there are almost no resources used on the ESX hosts. As others have mentioned, the problem comes in when backing up databases such as SQL and Exchange. You have to quiesce the OS and databases somehow or all you'll get are 'crash-consistent' backups that may or may not be useful. I'm using vRanger 3.X + VCB and freezing the databases with the VSS support builtin to the ESX 3.5 U4 VMWare tools. With vRanger you have to be very careful with how to set this up, and I received excellent guidance from their support team. So far I've restored a couple of VMs with SQL databases and everything's been fine. -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Do they boot up and behave properly when they are running live databases like Exchange and SQL Yes, as long as the script stops those services during the snapshot. (Only needed for a minute or 2). The OS will act as if the plug got yanked (Just as with most backup/restore processes), but the databases will be a safe, consistent state. I have written the scripts, tested, but don't use VCB/quiesce on production SQL/Exchange servers. I just use VCB with flat servers, if you will. I then RSYSNC the files to a remote datacenter afterwards. Kinda like a homebrew VMotion. Sam From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools I was using regular client backups as well, but a recent MotherBoard failure on my ESX host left me high and dry for 36 hours because rebuilding 4 servers and reinstalling them only to back them up and restore them back to the original host was going to be a pretty big hassle not to mention having a full day of email and SQL logs out of sync with the most current backup set. So I figured that if I had some host based backup solution, I could be back online in a couple of hours instead of 16. (no reinstalling, no patching and then restoring from backup) On paper, VMs are great, see, I can rebuild a server in a fraction of the time of a PM, but now I have to rebuild all of my servers in a 4x fraction. I'm curious about real life experience with these live snapshot backups. Do they boot up and behave properly when they are running live databases like Exchange and SQL? Bill On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: I've set up some backup scripts to make my own VCB backups. It was pretty painless. I'm by no means a script expert either. I have 10 ESX hosts. I don't do VCB backups at all; I backup each VM exactly as I did when it was a physical host (i.e., using Networker installed in the VM). So I don't need the VMs to be quiescent, before backup (which wouldn't happen here, anyway). ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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here's what I do, all with the free version. I have a couple scenarios. Some vm's have disc's setup as RDM's from ZFS backed iSCSI targets, some vm's exist on ZFS backed NFS mounted vmfs stores. Doesn't matter... I script the proper shutdown of the vm, check that its off, then trigger a snap on the backend storage, then restart. You can do all of this through the perl rCLI or whatever the hell they call it now. If all your vmfs is/are local, you can still do everything but the snap, just code up a vmkfstools export to a remote server and wait:) No matter what these products that do warm backups say, your backup resembles pulling the cord out of the wall and imaging a physical server. Just because the newer ones use VSS etc, it doesn't mean every aspect fo the server behaves correctly when a quiesce is issued. I don't like this idea, and have never subscribed to it. jlc From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I spoke to veeam and they don't support the free ESXi w/o the foundation tools, which I thought was strange because the free version worked .. I checked out vranger 3.3 and it requires vcb, none of my machines are available for backup w/o it. I tested this by doing a new install, if I put in the free license key vranger wont work, if I unregister it back to the 60 day trial which has VCB it works just fine. -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Just to reiterate. It is *not* necessary to use VCB with all 3rd party backup products for VMWare. Veeam and vRanger both have the option to do network backups. The benefit of VCB is that your proxy is hooked straight into the LUNs and there are almost no resources used on the ESX hosts. As others have mentioned, the problem comes in when backing up databases such as SQL and Exchange. You have to quiesce the OS and databases somehow or all you'll get are 'crash-consistent' backups that may or may not be useful. I'm using vRanger 3.X + VCB and freezing the databases with the VSS support builtin to the ESX 3.5 U4 VMWare tools. With vRanger you have to be very careful with how to set this up, and I received excellent guidance from their support team. So far I've restored a couple of VMs with SQL databases and everything's been fine. -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I apologize if I caused some confusion. I suppose I forgot that the OP was asking about backup solutions for ESXi (presumably the free version). My responses were all about ESX, and it seems that Veeam for one, *used* to backup the free version of ESXi, but doesn't any longer at the behest of VMWare, though they still support the for-pay version. (Pretty lame IMHO, though I understand the reasoning.) http://www.veeam.com/news/veeam-software-offers-new-essentials-bundle-acceleration-kits-for-vmware-vsphere4.html With regard to vRanger 3.X, I don't see on their site where they differentiate between ESXi versions (thought it wouldn't surprise me to discover that they're under the same thumb screws from VMWare as Veeam). If you've got a valid trial key they will support you 100%, so I suggest giving them a call. If you don't get the answers you need contact me off list and I'll see if I can get some answers for you. RS On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists li...@levelfive.us wrote: I spoke to veeam and they don't support the free ESXi w/o the foundation tools, which I thought was strange because the free version worked .. I checked out vranger 3.3 and it requires vcb, none of my machines are available for backup w/o it. I tested this by doing a new install, if I put in the free license key vranger wont work, if I unregister it back to the 60 day trial which has VCB it works just fine. -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Just to reiterate. It is *not* necessary to use VCB with all 3rd party backup products for VMWare. Veeam and vRanger both have the option to do network backups. The benefit of VCB is that your proxy is hooked straight into the LUNs and there are almost no resources used on the ESX hosts. As others have mentioned, the problem comes in when backing up databases such as SQL and Exchange. You have to quiesce the OS and databases somehow or all you'll get are 'crash-consistent' backups that may or may not be useful. I'm using vRanger 3.X + VCB and freezing the databases with the VSS support builtin to the ESX 3.5 U4 VMWare tools. With vRanger you have to be very careful with how to set this up, and I received excellent guidance from their support team. So far I've restored a couple of VMs with SQL databases and everything's been fine. -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
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They told me they would support it by this summer :( -Original Message- From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools I spoke to veeam and they don't support the free ESXi w/o the foundation tools, which I thought was strange because the free version worked .. I checked out vranger 3.3 and it requires vcb, none of my machines are available for backup w/o it. I tested this by doing a new install, if I put in the free license key vranger wont work, if I unregister it back to the 60 day trial which has VCB it works just fine. -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare tools Just to reiterate. It is *not* necessary to use VCB with all 3rd party backup products for VMWare. Veeam and vRanger both have the option to do network backups. The benefit of VCB is that your proxy is hooked straight into the LUNs and there are almost no resources used on the ESX hosts. As others have mentioned, the problem comes in when backing up databases such as SQL and Exchange. You have to quiesce the OS and databases somehow or all you'll get are 'crash-consistent' backups that may or may not be useful. I'm using vRanger 3.X + VCB and freezing the databases with the VSS support builtin to the ESX 3.5 U4 VMWare tools. With vRanger you have to be very careful with how to set this up, and I received excellent guidance from their support team. So far I've restored a couple of VMs with SQL databases and everything's been fine. -Original Message- From: mse...@ont.com [mailto:mse...@ont.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare tools Yes, all third party products use VCB, however, VCB by itself is a little more difficult to setup. The third party product eliminates having to do all of the custom scripting. Original Message: - From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 -0400 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VMWare tools vRanger uses VCB. IIRC, all third party backup solutions for VM's require VCB. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM, mse...@ont.com mse...@ont.com wrote: You can use VCB or third party backup solution such as vRanger. The key is what are your backup needs and budget. VCB works in conjuction with third party products to do full VMDK and file level backups. The key is if you need your VM nees quiesed before snapshot. I believe VCB alone may not do this. Plus with VCB alone you will have to setup backup scripts manually. The best solution if your budget allows is a third party solution installed on a backup proxy. Mike Original Message: - From: Bill Songstad bsongs...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:01:27 -0700 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: VMWare tools I've been using ESXi 3.5 for about six months and I have run up on a need that is not covered in the free hypervisor. So, as any industrious sole might, I went to the VMware website to see what products might suit my needs. And Viola! There I discovered that the marketing folks at VMware are sadists probably hired from the microsoft licensing team. So what I am polling about here is this: What are the essential tools for managing VMware virtual servers? What I need is pretty simple. I just want to make backups of my servers that I can restore to a different host without shutting them down or at the very least by a script that I can run on Saturday nights. I don't necessarily need to have vmotion especially since the products that include it are more than my total server hardware budget. Are there less expensive tools from other publishers that I should check out? The VMware stuff is a little outside my budget as far as I can divine from their website. Any advice is appreciated, Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
