dell servers
I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: dell servers
Poweredge 520/620/720 can all approximate that range of servers. We go through a lot of them, YMMV but we're happy with what we use and I prefer Dell support to HP support personally when it comes down to RMAs/issues. I think all of the Poweredge can come with the 'Internal SD Module' which is an SD card snapin inside the chassis that is meant for virtualization boot from flash for ESXi/hyperv/insert vendor here. -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: dell servers I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft(r) Windows(r) and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: dell servers
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J I recently set up a triplet of R620s, using the Dell-supplied ESXi on a stick, and no internal drives. Each machine has 64gb RAM. Works well, but I don't know if they're a direct compare to the DL360 - I haven't played with anything HP for many years (aside from their Lefthand SANs - they rock). This was for a VMware Essentials Plus package, and I'm very happy with the machines. I ordered them with a minimum of 6 NICs each, and they came with 4 NICs on the motherboard and a 4port NIC as an addin, so I dedicated one set on each machine to the VMs and one set to the SAN. I can't remember what the max RAM is on an R620, but I suppose it would be more than the 64gb I'm using - the VMware package we bought specifies the max RAM allowed per machine, so that's what we got. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: dell servers
Doing pretty much the same thing. I have 3 620's that boot ESXi from dual internal mirror's SD cards. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: dell servers On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J I recently set up a triplet of R620s, using the Dell-supplied ESXi on a stick, and no internal drives. Each machine has 64gb RAM. Works well, but I don't know if they're a direct compare to the DL360 - I haven't played with anything HP for many years (aside from their Lefthand SANs - they rock). This was for a VMware Essentials Plus package, and I'm very happy with the machines. I ordered them with a minimum of 6 NICs each, and they came with 4 NICs on the motherboard and a 4port NIC as an addin, so I dedicated one set on each machine to the VMs and one set to the SAN. I can't remember what the max RAM is on an R620, but I suppose it would be more than the 64gb I'm using - the VMware package we bought specifies the max RAM allowed per machine, so that's what we got. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: dell servers
The Dell website server configurator wants $68 for a 1GB SD card, sheesh. I'm guessing ANY SD card will work? Can anyone confirm that? Original Message: - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:09:48 + To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: dell servers Doing pretty much the same thing. I have 3 620's that boot ESXi from dual internal mirror's SD cards. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: dell servers On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J I recently set up a triplet of R620s, using the Dell-supplied ESXi on a stick, and no internal drives. Each machine has 64gb RAM. Works well, but I don't know if they're a direct compare to the DL360 - I haven't played with anything HP for many years (aside from their Lefthand SANs - they rock). This was for a VMware Essentials Plus package, and I'm very happy with the machines. I ordered them with a minimum of 6 NICs each, and they came with 4 NICs on the motherboard and a 4port NIC as an addin, so I dedicated one set on each machine to the VMs and one set to the SAN. I can't remember what the max RAM is on an R620, but I suppose it would be more than the 64gb I'm using - the VMware package we bought specifies the max RAM allowed per machine, so that's what we got. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: dell servers
Do you want (require) support for that? Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Subject: RE: dell servers The Dell website server configurator wants $68 for a 1GB SD card, sheesh. I'm guessing ANY SD card will work? Can anyone confirm that? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: dell servers
Ding ding. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Do you want (require) support for that? Thanks Webster -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Subject: RE: dell servers The Dell website server configurator wants $68 for a 1GB SD card, sheesh. I'm guessing ANY SD card will work? Can anyone confirm that? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: dell servers
Yes, you can use any SD. Don't forget to clone your SD and keep it in a safe place! If you have ProSupport, I highly doubt they will care if it's not the original card. -Original Message- From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: dell servers The Dell website server configurator wants $68 for a 1GB SD card, sheesh. I'm guessing ANY SD card will work? Can anyone confirm that? Original Message: - From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:09:48 + To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: dell servers Doing pretty much the same thing. I have 3 620's that boot ESXi from dual internal mirror's SD cards. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: dell servers On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com wrote: I'm more familiar with HPs line of servers. But in this case, I need a Dell server that compares well with the DL360 line from HP. Would that be the Dell 610/620 line? I need a server for ESXi, nothing crazy fancy, but spec'd with 2 6-core procs at 80GB memory. Is the 610/620 line a good option and equivent to the HP DL360 line? Also, considering NOT having internal disks and instead running ESXi off USB stick or something else. Any suggestions/comments on that? Thanks J I recently set up a triplet of R620s, using the Dell-supplied ESXi on a stick, and no internal drives. Each machine has 64gb RAM. Works well, but I don't know if they're a direct compare to the DL360 - I haven't played with anything HP for many years (aside from their Lefthand SANs - they rock). This was for a VMware Essentials Plus package, and I'm very happy with the machines. I ordered them with a minimum of 6 NICs each, and they came with 4 NICs on the motherboard and a 4port NIC as an addin, so I dedicated one set on each machine to the VMs and one set to the SAN. I can't remember what the max RAM is on an R620, but I suppose it would be more than the 64gb I'm using - the VMware package we bought specifies the max RAM allowed per machine, so that's what we got. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin mail2web.com - MicrosoftR Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Hard Drives for Dell Servers
I know someone who has ordered non-Dell drives and they have gotten corrupted - not immediately but after a period of time. Dell told him you have to use Dell drives. Dell used to sell the sled separately from the drive but apparently you have to buy them together now because of this problem. I can't say this is absolutely true but he believes it is. Curt Finley From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hard Drives for Dell Servers I have been tasked with finding the maximum capacity of drives that we can put in some PowerEdge 6800's that we are going to be re-using. Right now I have 146GB U320 drives in them. I'm imagining that I should be able to get 300GB U320's from Dell, but I'm looking to be able to save some money on this. Since the carrier for the Dell drives is really just a bezel as the drives have an 80 pin SCA connection, should I be able to get away with using any 80 pin SCA U320 drive? Or is their some proprietary firmware in the Dell drives that would prevent me from doing that? Thanks in advance! Joe Fox Systems/Network Administrator Mobile# (716) 846-9308 http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Hard Drives for Dell Servers
I have been tasked with finding the maximum capacity of drives that we can put in some PowerEdge 6800's that we are going to be re-using. Right now I have 146GB U320 drives in them. I'm imagining that I should be able to get 300GB U320's from Dell, but I'm looking to be able to save some money on this. Since the carrier for the Dell drives is really just a bezel as the drives have an 80 pin SCA connection, should I be able to get away with using any 80 pin SCA U320 drive? Or is their some proprietary firmware in the Dell drives that would prevent me from doing that? Thanks in advance! Joe Fox Systems/Network Administrator Mobile# (716) 846-9308 http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Hard Drives for Dell Servers
Nope, just ordered some of off eBay myself. And the drive tray's from another auction since I didn't have any. Make sure you research the part # so you don't end up with the non SCA's. From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hard Drives for Dell Servers I have been tasked with finding the maximum capacity of drives that we can put in some PowerEdge 6800's that we are going to be re-using. Right now I have 146GB U320 drives in them. I'm imagining that I should be able to get 300GB U320's from Dell, but I'm looking to be able to save some money on this. Since the carrier for the Dell drives is really just a bezel as the drives have an 80 pin SCA connection, should I be able to get away with using any 80 pin SCA U320 drive? Or is their some proprietary firmware in the Dell drives that would prevent me from doing that? Thanks in advance! Joe Fox Systems/Network Administrator Mobile# (716) 846-9308 http://www.linkedin.com/in/josephfoxjr ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Dell servers vs. Compaq
The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
When Dell runs a buy one, get one for 50% off (the current promo), the difference is significant. -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I don't know about Dell, but I know that Compaq has some awesome remote administration tools as well as some sweet objects for creating your own web stats. We have a website that goes and queries 2000+ servers and displays status information in 2 to 3 seconds. One of our NT Admins made this website and he had no prior web development experience. -Original Message- From: Ralph Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re:Dell servers vs. Compaq Dell support has been good in the past. Dell is currently selling their servers at or just above cost to increase their market share of installed platforms. I would not take this as a good sign since this will increase their support calls...all other things being equal. I have never had a problem with Dell or COMPAQ server support. The bottom line is COMPAQ has a longer history of making servers. If my choice was based upon server cost, Dell gets the nod. If I base the decision on quality, history and cost then COMPAQ gets the nod after a lot of head scratchingjust like you're going through now :-)) ralph Reply Separator Subject:Dell servers vs. Compaq Author: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/30/2001 1:19 PM The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our people said it's about half.We currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot of them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace them as part of the Win2k conversion.I still have to do an evaluation per server according to how many users it serves to set a size and cost for each. Sean Martin Sean.Martin@RibelinLTo: NT System Admin Issues owell.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/30/2001 02:31 PM Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
Could you zip up the code for the web site and give us a link to it? ntsysadmin@geeksa twork.comTo: NT System Admin Issues Sent by: Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Landon cc: glandon@geeksatwoSubject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq rk.com 08/30/2001 02:40 PM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I don't know about Dell, but I know that Compaq has some awesome remote administration tools as well as some sweet objects for creating your own web stats. We have a website that goes and queries 2000+ servers and displays status information in 2 to 3 seconds. One of our NT Admins made this website and he had no prior web development experience. -Original Message- From: Ralph Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re:Dell servers vs. Compaq Dell support has been good in the past. Dell is currently selling their servers at or just above cost to increase their market share of installed platforms. I would not take this as a good sign since this will increase their support calls...all other things being equal. I have never had a problem with Dell or COMPAQ server support. The bottom line is COMPAQ has a longer history of making servers. If my choice was based upon server cost, Dell gets the nod. If I base the decision on quality, history and cost then COMPAQ gets the nod after a lot of head scratchingjust like you're going through now :-)) ralph Reply Separator Subject:Dell servers vs. Compaq Author: NT System Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/30/2001 1:19 PM The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
Have never used Dell servers, only their workstations. Where I work now we have several Compaq servers 3 1600s, a 6000, a newer ML530 and ML370 with a couple of small Prosignia 200s. In the last three years we have replaced better than half of the power supplies, some of them twice. One power supply in a 200 just last week. Other components seem to be fine. At my last gig, I had a fleet of HP Netservers. Other than losing ALL of the 2.1gb SCSI drives in a couple of servers over time, they ran fine. All other drives were there for the long term. Len Hammond Network Administrator Pontiac Coil, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
We have hot swap power supplies in our Compaq's and I have had to replace some of them but the servers never went down. I'd have to lose 2 on the same server before the server went down and we keep some in house spares so we stay up.But I am pretty much familiar with CPQ - I have done some serious surgery on a few of them - I really want to know more about the Dell servers. Len Hammond lhammond@PontiaTo: NT System Admin Issues cCoil.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/30/2001 02:50Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq PM Please respond to NT System Admin Issues Have never used Dell servers, only their workstations. Where I work now we have several Compaq servers 3 1600s, a 6000, a newer ML530 and ML370 with a couple of small Prosignia 200s. In the last three years we have replaced better than half of the power supplies, some of them twice. One power supply in a 200 just last week. Other components seem to be fine. At my last gig, I had a fleet of HP Netservers. Other than losing ALL of the 2.1gb SCSI drives in a couple of servers over time, they ran fine. All other drives were there for the long term. Len Hammond Network Administrator Pontiac Coil, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
We were a Compaq shop when we switched to NT 4 years ago. Since that initial server purchase, we started buying Dell. The servers are iron clad. If you have a problem, the support at Dell is pretty good. The one thing that Dell does not have that I loved with Compaq was the Insight Manger product. I was very easy to get the latest drivers/firmware/etc. and install them on the server. Dell has a remote card (DRAC) that will give you the same functionality as the Remote Insight Board, but they do not have a utility that will seamlessly download and install the drivers and firmware updates. They have a product called OpenManage that will allow you to pull down the files by system type but you still have to create diskettes or manually install from the hard drive. Even though Dell does not have a product that is nearly as good as Insight Manager I still choose the Dell's over Compaq. They run as well as Compaq and they have always cost less. Also, I have noticed that Dell does not produce as many system updates as Compaq did, that is why the loss of Insight Manager was not that big of a deal. js * John Senter * Sr. NT System's Administrator * St. Jude Children's Research Hospital * 332 N. Lauderdale * Memphis, TN 38105 * E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their models are slightly different. If you are researching this, it may pay off to check both websites and compare models that you feel are similar. I do know that I have worked with both Compaq and Dell and have liked both. I have about 10 Dell servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1 hard drive fail - that is it. We have 1 Compaq server that just quietly humms along never complaining about anything. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our people said it's about half.We currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot of them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace them as part of the Win2k conversion.I still have to do an evaluation per server according to how many users it serves to set a size and cost for each. Sean Martin Sean.Martin@RibelinLTo: NT System Admin Issues owell.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/30/2001 02:31 PM Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell, and each had their good and bad sad. Dell has excellent technical support, and helped me bring back a dying PowerEdge 4300, which by the way I have had some serious problems with in the past. PowerEdge 2450 and 2200 were excellent servers and I never had a problem with them. Compaq support, I cannot speak of, as I have NEVER had to call them, a testament to their ProLiant Series of servers, DL320's, DL360's, CL380's, etc. IBM service was very good as well, next day onsite support for their NetFinity 5500 series and 6000 series servers, (the most powerful I have come across), and those machines are very well built also. If cost is your primary concern, and you are looking for decent hardware, and you can deal with the occasional call to tech support, go with Dell. If you want state of the art management technology, with 99.5% uptime, go with Compaq, or IBM as a second choice. Good luck to you and happy shopping. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their models are slightly different. If you are researching this, it may pay off to check both websites and compare models that you feel are similar. I do know that I have worked with both Compaq and Dell and have liked both. I have about 10 Dell servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1 hard drive fail - that is it. We have 1 Compaq server that just quietly humms along never complaining about anything. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our people said it's about half.We currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot of them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace them as part of the Win2k conversion.I still have to do an evaluation per server according to how many users it serves to set a size and cost for each. Sean Martin Sean.Martin@RibelinLTo: NT System Admin Issues owell.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/30/2001 02:31 PM Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc?Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc and we even have a few of the remote insight boards installed.Does Dell have equivalents? How about doing things like firmware upgrades? Thanks in advance for your time and help on this. If you have any docs you want to send me, feel free to email it directly to me. Thanks - DR http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
Title: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq We are almost totally a Compaq shop now - (48 Servers and approx 400 W/S) and I must confess to being hugely impressed, the only time we have to call support if hardware - and in the last 5 years that has been 3 Hard Drives (all part of RAID 5 with hot spare arrays - phew!!) and numerous DLT drives... the servers themselves have been ROCK SOLID.. the only experience of Dell is the laptop I am typing on at the moment... no complaints so far in 18 months of sterling service As the old saying goes - you get what you pay for and it's not always right - I would not touch IBM again in a fit (old decision by an old manager, gone now :-)) - we have engineers working on the 4 Netfinity servers we have in a remote office more than anything else - I won't even mention the AS/400's ;-B If you can handle the budget - go Compaq - Insight Manager rocks (especially with the BMC Patrol stuff they bundle with the latest versions - my servers mail me to say that the tape drive needs to be cleaned now..) HTH Jack -Original Message- From: Correa, Andre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 August 2001 00:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell, and each had their good and bad sad. Dell has excellent technical support, and helped me bring back a dying PowerEdge 4300, which by the way I have had some serious problems with in the past. PowerEdge 2450 and 2200 were excellent servers and I never had a problem with them. Compaq support, I cannot speak of, as I have NEVER had to call them, a testament to their ProLiant Series of servers, DL320's, DL360's, CL380's, etc. IBM service was very good as well, next day onsite support for their NetFinity 5500 series and 6000 series servers, (the most powerful I have come across), and those machines are very well built also. If cost is your primary concern, and you are looking for decent hardware, and you can deal with the occasional call to tech support, go with Dell. If you want state of the art management technology, with 99.5% uptime, go with Compaq, or IBM as a second choice. Good luck to you and happy shopping. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their models are slightly different. If you are researching this, it may pay off to check both websites and compare models that you feel are similar. I do know that I have worked with both Compaq and Dell and have liked both. I have about 10 Dell servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1 hard drive fail - that is it. We have 1 Compaq server that just quietly humms along never complaining about anything. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our people said it's about half. We currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot of them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace them as part of the Win2k conversion. I still have to do an evaluation per server according to how many users it serves to set a size and cost for each. Sean Martin Sean.Martin@RibelinL To: NT System Admin Issues owell.Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 08/30/2001 02:31 PM Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq Please respond to NT System Admin Issues I don't have any experience with Dell servers, but we've been running all Compaq servers for almost 5 years now. I've never had to make a support call (knock on wood) on any of them. We've got 3 Compaq Proliant 1600R's, 1 Proliant 6000R, and one Proliant ML530. Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference between Dell and Compaq on like models? Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell servers vs. Compaq The company has almost 100% Compaq servers. Now there is a requirement to do a comparison between Compaq and Dell, probably because of the cost difference. What experiences have you had with Dell - reliability, support, upgrades etc? Anyone running them both in the same network? I'm all familiar with Insight Manager etc
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
Title: Message
Come
to think of it, I've had a drive fail as well. Only once
though.
Regards,
Sean Martin,
MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell
CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage,
Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907)
229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 30,
2001 3:48 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Dell
servers vs. Compaq
That's funny. I was just thinking that the only issues I have had with
Compaq have been failed drives as well. But the servers were built right so a
failed drive wasn't a disaster, just an inconvenience.
-Original Message-From: EALES, Jack /
RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2001 4:18 PMTo: NT System Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
We are almost totally a Compaq shop now - (48 Servers and
approx 400 W/S) and I must confess to being hugely impressed, the only time
we have to call support if hardware - and in the last 5 years that has been
3 Hard Drives (all part of RAID 5 with hot spare arrays - phew!!) and
numerous DLT drives... the servers themselves have been ROCK SOLID.. the
only experience of Dell is the laptop I am typing on at the moment... no
complaints so far in 18 months of sterling service
As the old saying goes - "you get what you pay for" and it's
not always right - I would not touch IBM again in a fit (old decision by an
old manager, gone now :-)) - we have engineers working on the 4 Netfinity
servers we have in a remote office more than anything else - I won't even
mention the AS/400's ;-B
If you can handle the budget - go Compaq - Insight Manager
rocks (especially with the BMC Patrol stuff they bundle with the latest
versions - my servers mail me to say that the tape drive needs to be cleaned
now..)
HTH Jack
-Original Message- From:
Correa, Andre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 31 August 2001 00:00 To: NT
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs.
Compaq
THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the
detailed disclaimer below. --
I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell, and each had their
good and bad sad. Dell has excellent technical
support, and helped me bring back a dying PowerEdge
4300, which by the way I have had some serious problems with in
the past. PowerEdge 2450 and 2200 were excellent
servers and I never had a problem with them.
Compaq support, I cannot speak of, as I have NEVER had to call them, a testament to their ProLiant Series of servers,
DL320's, DL360's, CL380's, etc. IBM service
was very good as well, next day onsite support for
their NetFinity 5500 series and 6000 series servers, (the most
powerful I have come across), and those machines are very
well built also.
If cost is your primary concern, and you are looking for
decent hardware, and you can deal with the
occasional call to tech support, go with Dell. If you want state of the art management technology, with 99.5%
uptime, go with Compaq, or IBM as a second
choice. Good luck to you and happy shopping.
-Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell
servers vs. Compaq
I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their
models are slightly different. If you are
researching this, it may pay off to check both websites and compare models that you feel are similar. I do
know that I have worked with both Compaq and Dell
and have liked both. I have about 10 Dell
servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1
hard drive fail - that is it. We have 1
Compaq server that just quietly humms along
never complaining about anything.
Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems
Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 11:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Dell
servers vs. Compaq
I didnt do the cost comparison personally, but one of our
people said it's about half. We
currently have a total of about 120 servers, but a lot of them are getting pretty old and we are going to budget to replace
them as part of the Win2k
conversion. I still have to do an evaluation per
server according to how many users it serves to set a size
and cost for each.
Sean Martin
Sean.Martin@RibelinL
To: "NT System Admin Issues"
RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq
I just had a delivery situation with Compaq. I ordered an IPAQ off our Business Advantage website because of a promotion they were having. Normally I order from our standard config, but this machine was close enough and Compaq was offering a 15in Flat screen monitor for only $150 extra, plus an extra 64mb RAM. The final price was only $80 more than what I normally pay. Well apparently every Tom, Dick, and Harry decided to take advantage of the promotion because the monitor was on back order. This was about 4 weeks ago and there still wasn't an estimated time of delivery. I finally cancelled the order and just purchased another IPAQ with our standard config. I received it 3 days later. I'm still sulking over the fact that I don't get my flat screen monitor :o( Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Kuhn - MCSE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I've always been very happy with Compaq servers and their server support. I still recommend them highly. For lower end servers I have a habit of recomending Dell. Their hardware is solid. I'm not real happy with their support. A Dell laptop eh? I spent almost 4 weeks waiting for a Dell 8100 laptop this summer. Finally cancelled the order and picked up a Compaq 1710T from PCCONNECTION. I got the Compaq 2 days after ordering (because I was too cheap to pay for overnight shipping). I'm glad I did (really nice machine!!). Delivery delays/BS are one of my biggest gripes about Dell. -Original Message- From: EALES, Jack / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq We are almost totally a Compaq shop now - (48 Servers and approx 400 W/S) and I must confess to being hugely impressed, the only time we have to call support if hardware - and in the last 5 years that has been 3 Hard Drives (all part of RAID 5 with hot spare arrays - phew!!) and numerous DLT drives... the servers themselves have been ROCK SOLID.. the only experience of Dell is the laptop I am typing on at the moment... no complaints so far in 18 months of sterling service As the old saying goes - you get what you pay for and it's not always right - I would not touch IBM again in a fit (old decision by an old manager, gone now :-)) - we have engineers working on the 4 Netfinity servers we have in a remote office more than anything else - I won't even mention the AS/400's ;-B If you can handle the budget - go Compaq - Insight Manager rocks (especially with the BMC Patrol stuff they bundle with the latest versions - my servers mail me to say that the tape drive needs to be cleaned now..) HTH Jack -Original Message- From: Correa, Andre [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: 31 August 2001 00:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell, and each had their good and bad sad. Dell has excellent technical support, and helped me bring back a dying PowerEdge 4300, which by the way I have had some serious problems with in the past. PowerEdge 2450 and 2200 were excellent servers and I never had a problem with them. Compaq support, I cannot speak of, as I have NEVER had to call them, a testament to their ProLiant Series of servers, DL320's, DL360's, CL380's, etc. IBM service was very good as well, next day onsite support for their NetFinity 5500 series and 6000 series servers, (the most powerful I have come across), and those machines are very well built also. If cost is your primary concern, and you are looking for decent hardware, and you can deal with the occasional call to tech support, go with Dell. If you want state of the art management technology, with 99.5% uptime, go with Compaq, or IBM as a second choice. Good luck to you and happy shopping. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: Dell servers vs. Compaq I don't know if you will get exact comparisons as their models are slightly different. If you are researching this, it may pay off to check both websites and compare models that you feel are similar. I do know that I have worked with both Compaq and Dell and have liked both. I have about 10 Dell servers that in the almost 2 years we have had them, I have had 1 hard drive fail
Re: Dell servers vs. Compaq
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about doing things like firmware upgrades? weak point in my experience. in general Compaq was far more reliable for me : 800 workstations, 200 Dells, 200 CPQs, the rest is a tutty-frutty of white boxes, IBMs, VA Linux, Suns. = --65--- This email is intended to be received by the intended recipient only. If the sender misdirected this email to you and you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby obligated by law (1)to immediately notify the sender of your unauthorized receipt of this confidential and privileged information, (2)delete all copies including backups, (3)reinitialize any hard drives on which it resided, (4)surrender all of your computing equipment and your person to the applicable law enforcement authorities for prosecution __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
