Re: AOO 3.4 downloads by language and country
Hi. 2012/5/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org The following lists the top 10 countries for downloads of each AOO 3.4 NL install. Downloads have come from 226 countries. 26 countries saw more than 10,000 downloads, 78 countries had more than 1,000 downloads, and 147 had more than 100 downloads. Four countries had only a single download each: Guinea-Bissau, Wallis and Futuna, Eritrea, and Chad. Good. (And yes, we have three downloads, of the Italian version, from the Vatican City). Aside from showing the diversity of our users, and the complexity of language distributions, it suggests some gaps. For example, look at the top non-English speaking countries that have downloaded the en_US version: Sweden, Romania, Poland, Indonesia. So strong interest in AOO in those countries. Maybe we should reach out for volunteer to help update those translations? We can look with different eyes. Best, -- Meu email mudou e também minhas redes sociais: My email change and also social networking: binoabn [at] gmail [dot] com Redes/Networking: @binoabn about.me/binoabn
Re: Error in about aoo
Hi. 2012/5/26 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Albino It is an error in the translation: https://translate.apache.org/pt_BR/OOo_34/translate.html?unit=5918322 The variable should be %OOOVENDOR, not %OOO_VENDOR. That's why it does not get replaced by Apache Software Foundation. Thank Ariel and Zoltán. I hit the error in translation. Albino
Re: [UX] New AOO User Experience Community
Hi. 2012/5/24 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I think I got your point. You're right. There's no need to identify some people as a group. But, in fact, there are some groups, for example, the infra group, cws group, brazilian volunteers group, italian volunteers group, and so on. That's because it's needed some admin rights to do their tasks, or because regional identification, not because they are separated groups. Giving my opinion in this list, I'm giving it individually and not in the name of the groups I can identify myself to. At least, I understand this way. Correct me If I understood it wrong. +1 2012/5/24 Yong Lin Ma mayo...@apache.org The bar for UX design of such a product is very low. The prefix UX is but obvious and organized to know what the interest and subject of the email. Albino
Re: [WWW] What to do with OOo related domains?
Hi. 2012/5/25 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com On 2012-05-23, at 12:21 , Andrew Rist wrote: As part of the transfer of the web properties of OOo to the ASF, the set of related domains has also been offered to ASF. We (PPMC) need to decide what we want to do with the related domains. There are three obvious options available to us: * Ignore and let the domains expire * Continue to register to block squatting, but do no more * Continue to register and forward to oo.o As I have mentioned more than once, I seem to own openoffice.ca and would be willing to contribute it (or whatever one does) to AOO. In general, historically we have approached the owners of such sites and asked them to work with the community. +1 The better option. There are many alternatives. I don't like very much and confuse me. Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/24 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Hey All, Great thread, many great research questions in here. Overall, we are moving in the right direction. We need to understand who uses AOO, and what they use it for. What works, what doesn't . Context of use, when and where is also important. Let's move the conversation to the UX wiki, and capture some our research question candidates. Also, let's look at previous research efforts to help us quickly build a strong survey. Sun, Oracle, IBM and the OO community have performed user research in the past. Let's leverage this content, where possible. In addition to a capturing a series of research questions, let's capture our thoughts in the UX wiki on our research strategy. Beyond email list and forums, we may want to consider how we might use social media channels to drive traffic to the user research questions. Finally, let's think about how we take the output of the research data and turn the data into UX work products that will help drive informed design and development decisions. Harvesting data to create user roles and usage scenarios would be a logical start. I volunteer to create some UX wiki pages to help capture this content. +1 Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/23 Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com Sorry, I'm not understanding. Have you prepared some questions or are you preparing some questions and what sort of details are we talking about. I'm preparing some questions, the detalis is of questions. Suggetion of site for creates questions: doodle.com survey.usability-methods.com ... Open to suggestions ! I have a lime survey setup on a webhost that we can use also which will give us plenty of flexibility We also need to identify our respondents and figure out a way to get the survey in front of them. Good. 2012/5/23 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org OK, here's a question: I'd like to know if users would like the option to be able to Skin their AOO interface The other question that arises from this from developers/artists point of view: If the faclity was available would people like to create skins for AOO. Question For instance, would it be possible to code up an application similar to a WYSIWYG webeditor like Kompozer, in which you could design a skin for your AOO interface and then that application would generate an extension that would allow the user to download the skin from the extensions repository and thus change the look and feel of their interface. (I'm not making a case that this would be a good use of projects resources at this point, just asking the question as to the possibility) I ask because I am mindful of the difference of the freshness in the look between OOo and Symphony and our users have made this point over a fairly substantial amount of time.
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Sorry, there was a problem in the browser! Hi. 2012/5/23 Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com Sorry, I'm not understanding. Have you prepared some questions or are you preparing some questions and what sort of details are we talking about. I'm preparing some questions, the detalis is of questions. Suggetion of site for creates questions: doodle.com survey.usability-methods.com ... Open to suggestions ! I have a lime survey setup on a webhost that we can use also which will give us plenty of flexibility We also need to identify our respondents and figure out a way to get the survey in front of them. Good. 2012/5/23 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org OK, here's a question: I'd like to know if users would like the option to be able to Skin their AOO interface The other question that arises from this from developers/artists point of view: If the faclity was available would people like to create skins for AOO. Question go around. For instance, would it be possible to code up an application similar to a WYSIWYG webeditor like Kompozer, in which you could design a skin for your AOO interface and then that application would generate an extension that would allow the user to download the skin from the extensions repository and thus change the look and feel of their interface. (I'm not making a case that this would be a good use of projects resources at this point, just asking the question as to the possibility) I ask because I am mindful of the difference of the freshness in the look between OOo and Symphony and our users have made this point over a fairly substantial amount of time. Thank Graham Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/23 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 2012/5/23 Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com Scaled response and open response questions are always better in terms of data that is dealing with aesthetics and feelings. The art with these answers is in the interpretation. A Yes/no response to a question is not an answer it's a vote and a sign of lazy Poll design. We don't need to do that, we don't have department heads breathing down our necks and waving deadlines under our noses so as there is no pressure, our Survey design should be tops. Indeed. Yet, Scaled questions should have a odd number of choices and should be used for quantification. Five is a fair number, in my view. Open questions should be used for qualification. They are harder to plot. What I would like to be able to do is to design a survey, collate the data, make a decision based on that data, publish it and then be able to point directly at a feature or design element that we can say was due to feedback from the survey. This gives our surveys gravitas with users and we are more likely to get quality responses to later surveys. This could be usefull to show users that their wishes are being heard, discussed and can be implemented in the software someway. The questions will cover that too. The intent of the questionnaires are to be used (also) in the future of AOO. And they will be translated into appropriate languages. Those who want to create user focus questions are welcome. Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/21 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org First off we need to figure what we want to learn, just asking random questions is no way to endear us to our users. We used to have a survey that the user connected to when s/he selected I want to register during install. That survey, set up by SUN, was very comprehensive. It had a couple of problems: One was that it was just an information gathering exercise there seemed to be no real goal other than that. Second was that it took too long to fill in, around 45 minutes. Consequently very actually completed it. I did the numbers on it a few years back but unfortunately I can't find them. Suffice to say it was miniscule, insufficient to be a reasonable sample. So therefore, any survey should have: 1) A specific goal such as: to guide marketing as to untapped target markets or perhaps to answer a specific UX question. In other words the data gathered should be used to guide specific decisions 2) the survey participants should be told what the survey is about and how their participation will affect the product. 3) An approximate completion time but no more than 10 minutes and as close to 5 as feasible. I informed about the scope the research, but must be prepared. We also need to identify the target audience and how we approach that audience. So question one: What issue needs discussing right now and why. My first response to this would be Aesthetics. A common complaint that we have had is that the interface looks something from Win 2000 period. At first glance they are right. Buttons look clunky, the 3D depression with dark gray background does look old. Symphony by comparison has a light background behind the buttons on mouse over and a quite thin emboss on click. It looks lighter and fresher. Good job symphony team. We could put up a set of UI designs or themes and survey our users feelings about them. What else could we usefully ask about? I'm prepared questions and details. Suggetion of site for creates questions: doodle.com survey.usability-methods.com ... Open to suggestions ! Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/21 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 2012/5/21 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/5/20 Raul Pacheco da Silva raulpachecodasi...@gmail.com Yes, like others softwares and questions in free internet U2es,012/5/20 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org This could be done in the wiki. Yes. Let's go ?! Who wants to also create questions feel free. Albino You? We. :) Albino
Re: MediaWiki update (was Re: Dealing with a large and diverse project - Native Languages and project teams)
Hi. 2012/5/20 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/18 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org: I opened a JIRA issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4816 Wow! You was more fast that me, Pedro. I was writing now an issue for this. :-) +1 I voted. Albino
Re: [RELEASE][AOO3.4.1] proposed time schedule and included content
Hi. The next version like 3.4.1, 3.4.x and more. Could be for security and small changes (ex.: localization ...). Version like 3.7 ... 4.0, 4.3 etc, more drastic changes (ex.: interface, bottons ...). My two cents. Albino
Re: [UX] Questions for users
Hi. 2012/5/20 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I think you mean How old are you? =) Sorry, thanks. Maybe we could contribute to improve those questions. My 2 cents: Are you using it at your work (ask where does he/she work) or at home, or both? Do you think you have enough support? Where do you use to get support? (manuals, friends, forum, mailing lists, etc) Good! Open to suggestions. :-) Albino
Re: Washington DC Apahe Barcamp
Hi. 2012/5/18 drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com Hi, Just a quick reminder on this. I will be attending the Barcamp tomorrow and I will, if possible, give a brief presentation regarding our project. It would be great if I could give a peak to the presentation, but for that it would have to be finished already... so that is out - it will be ready by 9 AM however :) of course I will post it to the wiki afterwards. However, if anyone believes there is something particular you would like highlighted I will check emails over the next couple of hours - so go ahead and post here or direct to me, either way. Good event. If you could make a presentation would be gook. Albino
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Hi Kayo. :) 2012/5/18 Kayo Hamid khf...@gmail.com When you really start this - alone or together with others - I think you will have the deepest respect from all of us as this is really hard work. Marcus Ok, thanks for all comments, I will take it with me to improve my skills on this task ;-) Good idea and also strategic. You'll get more people willing to help. Albino
Re: 6/2(Sat.) OpenOffice 3.4 Release Party in Taiwan
Hi. 2012/5/18 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Dear all, The local Taiwan comminuty is holding an OpenOffice 3.4 Release Party on 6/2(Sat.) 14:30 (GMT+8) in GozCafe, Taipei, Taiwan, celebrating the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4: http://registrano.com/events/aoo34 If you happen to be in Taiwan at that time, be sure to visit us. We will be more than happy to see you. ^_*' Too bad I live across the world. :-P Albino
Re: Something wrong in download page for Linux users
Hi. 2012/5/17 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de The problem that you don't get a download link für a .deb package is that Chromium is not recognized. It can run on RPM and DEB based Linux distros. And currently I don't see a possibility to do so. But I hope that someone else can. For IceWeasel I just need to extent the DL scripts. Both problems are already listed to get improved (1st and 2nd row from top): https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Improvements+for+the+download+**webpageshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages Thank you! Albino
Re: User Researchs
Hi Kevin. 2012/5/18 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Albino, I have create a wiki page to discuss an AOO UX Social Strategy. See: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice_User_Experience I saw. You should capture your initial thoughts and together with the rest of the UX community, we can start to develop our strategy. Thank you. I put the informations. Albino
Re: [UX] New AOO User Experience Community
Hi. 2012/5/18 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 2012/5/18 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 5/18/12 10:32 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: Erik, Good stuff. Will do. do we really need such a separate page for UX community members? I don't think so and I personally think it goes in the wrong direction. There's nothing to loose, in my view. But I wouldn't call UX a community. I would call it a team. True. :) I am personally interested in many different areas of the project and don't want to put my name on X different pages. My contribution in the different areas will be also different and will change from time to time. If you are interested in many areas (just like me) you are free to decide if you will place your name in all of them, or none. I don't see a problem with that. But if I am deeply involved with some project, I would like to place my name on it, for sure. Also, it's important from the user's point of view, to know who are the contacts for the issues they have. And a new contributor who wishes to have a larger involvement with the UX activities (and others too) should be able to identify who else is involved. Such a page doesn't really reflect who is doing the work and is potentially misleading. Again, I don't think so. Indeed, it doesn't reflect who is doing the job, but it gives a clue. It would be worst if users have no clue about that. And Mediawiki has features that can give stronger clues. It's matter of creating some sort of workflow. If there's a workflow, anyone can drive his task, without the need of a coordinator. I could give you an example we done in LibO, but I preffer to show you our own example in AOO: Me and Raul are about to finish a workflow for PT-BR document translations page which is working very fine in LibO and we will make it work here too. When finished, anyone will be able to choose a document, translate it, submit it for revise, revise translation, and all the work of every contributor will be recorded. This could be automated in certain level if we had a better wiki as I have asked for some days ago. We have already a general project page with project members that doesn't reflect the current situation in the project. I agree to this point, but I think a general list too general for the average people. We should think about giving fast answers to AOO users, instead making them navigate through uncountable pages to find what they want. Do you have any idea of how difficult is for people to fill an issue in bugzilla, for example? Findind documentation either. And it's worst for those who can't read/write in English. In general such pages are useless from my point of view and get outdated very fast. My personal/professional experience points to another direction. If UX has enthusiastic volunteers who take the task to themselves, they will take care of their workspace. And I think there are very enthusiastic people at this moment. And they wish to do that, but it will be useless if UX couldn't count on devs to hear what they have to say, because UX should be the channel between users and devs. The enthusiasm can go down very quickly. Just my 2 ct Mine too. +1 Albino
Re: Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Blows Past 1M Downloads
Hi. 2012/5/17 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Earlier today we hit the 1 million download mark for Apache OpenOffice 3.4. Congratulations to the AOO project team, and thanks to all the users who downloaded this release over the past week, and especially to those who took the time to write and offer suggestions or report bugs. You can read more about our strong first week, including more statistics and press excerpts, in this short article: http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34-1M.html If you have not yet installed Apache OpenOffice 3.4 you can get it here: http://download.openoffice.org Congratulation! :-) Albino
Re: Something wrong in download page for Linux users
Hi. 2012/5/17 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I am a Ubuntu user. Yesterday I had to download AOO3.4 again, and I noticed the page see my OS as Linux, but it points to download of the RPM package. It should point to DEB package. +1, true. I'm a Debian amd64 user, I also had problem days ago and testing now. On Windows XP, today downloaded and installation, no problem. Albino
Re: Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Blows Past 1M Downloads
Hi 2012/5/17 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Yes. and something we should all remember: This 1M mark was achieved *without* enabling the automatic update check server. Normally, this would be enabled for a new release, so all users of OOo 3.3.0 would get a pop-up notification that AOO 3.4 is ready for them to download. with 100 million existing users, the upgrade traffic for that would be huge. But that server is not enabled yet. So everyone who downloaded AOO 3.4 did so on word of mouth. They heard about the AOO 3.4 update on Twitter or Facebook, or heard about it from a friend, or saw some coverage in the press. The fact that we got 1 million downloads based on that shows that we did great work on the release promotion. So good work, everyone! -Rob Albino We must also look at people who share pendrive, external hd and others. Very happy for the mark 1M download! :) Albino
[OT] AOO in Telecenter
Hi all, A member of the Escritório Livre community, working in telecenters government is creating an OS based on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. About 6.000 telecenters, with 11 machines each, and will exceed more than 7.000. It will replace the old BrOffice 3.2 to put the Apache OpenOffice 3.4 as the official office in the telecenters. Just who is having a problem, it needs to create a PPA for Ubuntu 10.04, and today exists only for 11.10/12.04. And also the question of automatic updating AOO. Albino
Re: Something wrong in download page for Linux users
Hi Marcus. 2012/5/17 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de @Paulo and Albina: Please can you browse to http://www.openoffice.org/** download/test/analyze.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html and paste here the content of the table? Then we can see better what could be wrong. Yes! I'm Debian (sid/wheezy amd64) user Chromium: *Variables from the browser**Values*navigator.platformLinux i686 navigator.platform.toLowerCase()linux i686navigator.languagept-BR navigator.userLanguageundefinednavigator.systemLanguageundefined navigator.userAgentMozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19 navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64) applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168 safari/535.19 navigator.javaEnabled()YesgetLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA ) http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_pt-BR.tar.gz/download getArray()skip,Portuguese (Brazilian),http://br-pt.openoffice.org/,n,y,ygetPlatform( SCHEMA )LinuxgetLanguage()Portuguese (Brazilian)getLanguageISO()pt-BR hasMirrorLink()true IceWeasel on Debian (ffox): *Variables from the browser **Values*navigator.platform Linux x86_64navigator.platform.toLowerCase() linux x86_64navigator.language pt-BRnavigator.userLanguage undefinednavigator.systemLanguage undefinednavigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4navigator.javaEnabled() No getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA ) http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_pt-BR.tar.gz/downloadgetArray() skip,Portuguese (Brazilian),http://br-pt.openoffice.org/,n,y,ygetPlatform( SCHEMA ) Linux 64-bitgetLanguage() Portuguese (Brazilian)getLanguageISO() pt-BRhasMirrorLink() true Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] [USER EXPERIENCE] - Create ooo-ux mailing list
Hi. 2012/5/16 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Hello All, I would like to propose the creation of an ooo-ux@incubator.apache.orgmailing list. The frequency of UX-related discussions are increasing, and interest in the UX community is growing. It's time to create a mailing list to focus the conversation, and channel our creative energy ;) I volunteer to be a moderator, and would welcome a few others to join me. I am a Certified User Experience Professional with 15 years experience leading, managing and delivering user experience projects. +1 Kevin, create on JIRA about mailing list. :) You need have at least three moderators. Albino
Re: [ANNOUNCE] IBM SGA/CCLA Submitted for Symphony Source Code Contribution
Hi. 2012/5/15 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com A few minutes ago, I submitted the IBM Software Grant Agreement and Corporate Contributor License Agreement for IBM Lotus Symphony contribution. This action means infra can begin to prepare to receive the 'Contribution into svn when they're ready. We will be providing more descriptive content to the list tomorrow when our China team wakes up. :) This is just a short announcement to get the ball rolling. We announced our plan to do this on July 15, 2011. The successful delivery of Apache OpenOffice 3.4 has now made it possible to move forward. We hope the community will invest time and energy to study and understand this contribution and help determine how best to use it going forward for the benefit of the public good. This ends the Symphony fork here with Apache OpenOffice. Congratulation! :) Albino
Re: May I use Apahce OpenOffice and Apache Incubator logos on OpenOffice CD
Hi. 2012/5/16 Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com I and my project members are preparing to create Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 for Windows CD with templates, illustrations and photos provided by http://www.templatebank.com/ Here is label design draft. https://sites.google.com/site/khirano/Home/apache-openoffice-cd +1 If possible programmers could create also for Linux and Mac with the install script. The idea is old and deceit was create, I and Paulo, and others collegues. Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] [USER EXPERIENCE] - Create ooo-ux mailing list
Hi. I'll reinforce what Rob said. We can use the marketing list, the UX is also a form of marketing ooo-marketing [at] incubator [dot] apache [dot] org Albino
User Researchs
Hi all, After the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I have read enough news / positive feedback on AOO (at least what I have researched) and using the social networking AOOBr. We can start doing User Researchs with questions or polls or basic questions, which do not last even 2 to 4 minutes for the user. Questions like: - Do you like AOO? - What did you expect AOO? - Do you use but Write, Calc, Impress, basic math? - What to expect from next releases? - Suggests improvements in AOO? - But speaks of his office with packages Usability. - etc. What do you think? Best, Albino
Re: Apache OpenOffice Presentation Template
Hi. 2012/5/13 Liu Da Li wawal...@gmail.com [...] it looks very good! +1 Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. The list has been approved ? Best, Send by Android Mensagem enviada via Android. Albino @bino28 Em 08/05/2012 17:05, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com escreveu: On 05/07/2012 04:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Albino, On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:52:50PM -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi. How is the progress of the vote ? [0] I see no change yet. Waiting an result positive. :-) 0 - issues.apache.org/jira/browse/**INFRA-4532http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532 The Spanish proposal only got one +1 ;) http://markmail.org/message/**gxcn6ksi3cz26rjbhttp://markmail.org/message/gxcn6ksi3cz26rjb And that is perfectly OK. Lazy consensus is about seeing if anyone has objections. If they don't then there is no need to say +1. Silence is consent. Sometimes I think we overuse +1 to mean I have no objections. IMHO, +1 should mean more like I strongly support this and am willing to help. You simply have to wait the 72 hrs :) Then update the JIRA issue with the link to the proposal thread and the name of the moderators. And then please update this page, once the list is created: http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/native-lang.htmlhttp://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html -Rob yes... Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- --**--** MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: [PROPOSAL] Wiki upgrade
Hi. 2012/5/10 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org Hi. I was making some tests and I am wondering if it would be possible to upgrade Mediawiki, at least to version 1.17.4. It would be nice if the extensions below could be installed also. ** **Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org/* ** **Semantic Forms http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms * ** **Semantic Forms Inputshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms_Inputs * ** **SemanticFormsSelect https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticFormsSelect * * *Semantic Internal Objectshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Internal_Objects * * *External Data https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:External_Data* * *Approved Revs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Approved_Revs* Note that some of those extensions doesn't work in Mediawiki 1.15.Others need to create some tables in Mediawiki database. I noticed that I have no rights to create a page for PT-BR language. I can create, but it doesn't appear (I couldn't find out why). Any doubts, feel free to ask. Good ideia. :) The Paul does great work with wiki. See the Community Escritório Livre [0] 0 - www.escritoriolivre.org/wiki Please upgrade wiki. :) Abraços, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese
Hi. 2012/5/10 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw I think the issue we discussed here is that, whether or not we want br.openoffice.org to be redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ . We need the input from the Brazil community to decide it. The br.openoffice.org is redirected to openoffice.org/projects/br, but this case. I'm think and discurssing with some members of the brazilian community, a portal for news, events, etc. and another (the primary) only important, news, download, more information. What do you say ? The primary / *first*: openoffice.org/pt-br/ You may check previous mails in this thread for more of the discussion and reason. ^_*' Yes, I read the previous. I'm just explaining. :) Regards, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese
Hi. 2012/5/10 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/5/10 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw I think the issue we discussed here is that, whether or not we want br.openoffice.org to be redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ . We need the input from the Brazil community to decide it. The br.openoffice.org is redirected to openoffice.org/projects/br, but this case. I'm think and discurssing with some members of the brazilian community, a portal for news, events, etc. and another (the primary) only important, news, download, more information. What do you say ? The primary / *first*: openoffice.org/pt-br/ You may check previous mails in this thread for more of the discussion and reason. ^_*' Yes, I read the previous. I'm just explaining. :) We want the base of AOO, don't do anyting separately. Regards, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL][www] Redirected br.openoffice.org
Hi. 2012/5/10 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. To organize! About: br.openoffice.org is redirected to openoffice.org/pt-br I'm think and discurssing with some members of the brazilian community, a portal for news, events, etc. and another (the primary) only important, news, download, more information. What do you say ? The primary / *first*: openoffice.org/pt-br We want use the base of AOO, don't anything separately. So, we could use br.openoffice.org beging secondary ? If it were allowed to use the existing infra. New idea, sorry. Create pt-br.openoffice.org (secondary) ? Because it's similar openoffice.org/pt-br The redirected br.openoffice.org to openoffice.org/pt-br, Ok! More opinions. Best, Albino
Re: How To Install Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Via PPA On Ubuntu 12.04/11.10
Hi. 2012/5/10 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I put a pt-br translation at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/PT-BR/FAQ/Instala%C3%A7%C3%A3ofor now. as soon as a place for it is defined we can move it to there. Thanks Paulo. Spreading social networking. :) @apacheoobr Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL]: Apache OpenOffice Next-Gen logo...
Hi. I'm not designer, but is good idea to change logo of AOO. Put the suggestions and design here[0] or wiki. 0 - http://incubator.apache.org/flex/logo-contest.html News roads. :) Best, Albino
Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony
2012/5/9 l x lxnice...@gmail.com Hi all, Hi. Welcome! I'm Xin Li, I have been an UX designer for Symphony and I'm very glad to join ooo-dev mailing list. I'd love to focus on AOO user experience work in the future. I do really wish we can work together to deliver wonderful product to users. The focus on AOO user experience important, now in the roads of new versions. From now we are need focus in users. Because they used it on a day. Best, Albino
Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist
Hi. 2012/5/9 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy, but also very quiet. The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle submitting an SGA. That was just the beginning. From coordinating domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online services, to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff I probably don't even know about. Oh, yes, and then he somehow found time to get the buildbots running. So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts possible. +1 :) Best, Albino
Re: First Year Cake(walk)
Hi. 2012/5/9 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com I'm not by any stretch the community manager of this new project, AOO, but am like many of you on this list part of it, a member. And as we are shouting out and offering praise, I'd like to thank the community and the Apache group for what has been accomplished. The reviews keep pouring in. Do a simple Google search and you'll see what I mean. And they have been trending positive, at least as of last night, -0500 UTC. The first year is always the hardest, as we have to find our roles and discover the ways to collaborate with the others--and also to learn what has to be done in all regards, from infrastructure, code, governance, and identity. For me, it was an odd and sometimes difficult year, as I discovered how much I'd invested--emotionally, intellectually, socially--in OpenOffice. That it has come out so well and that the product I use every day (and which never crashes on me) is showing itself renewed, refreshed is terrific. But even better is that the collaborators working on it have formed and are forming a real community, one whose governance is open and transparent, one in which evident merit marked by doing is the true measure and one in which everyone is eligible to show their merits. Thanks then not only to Andrew R. and the mentors, but to those who make up the actuality of the Apache way by doing. ++1 AOO project brings me great satisfaction, a project the enhances the person, and I see good and excelent future! We are together! :) Best, Albino
Re: Shout Out for our Mentors!
Hi. 2012/5/9 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com While we're in the honeymoon period following our successful launch of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to give a special SHOUT OUT! to our mentors. We wouldn't be here at this point in the project's development without your help and counsel. You agreed to take this podling on as huge and gnarly as you knew it would be. OpenOffice is the largest end user-facing project in the history of ASF. Nobody blinked. Your support has been stalwart and steadfast. Lastly, your confidence in us, that we would eventually get most of it right, even if we messed up some things, was most appreciated. It's been a challenge for you, but I trust you are finding it rewarding as we pass this first major milestone of a successful Apache Release, and look forward to building the most successful end user productivity software suite in the history of Apache, for the public good, of course! +1 I'm learning with you all. :) Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese
Hi. 2012/5/9 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: plus (7) br.openoffice.org - www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ Anyone have other needed redirections? Did anyone actually request a redirect for pt-br? It would be good to understand the interest there a bit more. Aside from continental Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese, isn't it also spoken in the Azores and Cape Verde? Which version of AOO would they use? And what would make it easier for them to find? We have two languages portuguese: pt = Portugual / pt-BR = Brazil The pt-BR (Brazil) is still the only. The pt is spoken in coutry Portugual/Cape/Angola Verde and others coutry, and it varieties. Terms is required pt and pt-BR. Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Separation of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese
Hi. 2012/5/9 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com We have two languages portuguese: pt = Portugual / pt-BR = Brazil The pt-BR (Brazil) is still the only. The pt is spoken in coutry Portugual/Cape/Angola Verde and others coutry, and it varieties. Sorry. The pt is spoken in country Portugual/Cape Verde/Angola and others country, and it varieties. Best, Albino
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released
Hi. 2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee is pleased to announce the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, available on Windows, MacOS and Linux. Downloads are available at: http://download.openoffice.org The full release announcement can be read here: http://www.openoffice.org/news/aoo34.html Regards, - The Apache OpenOffice PPMC Excelent, congratulation! Publishing the social networks pt-BR :) Best, Albino
Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4
Hi. My blog in the WP [0]: Can I edit the cwiki ? 0 - bino28.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/lancado-apache-openoffice-3-4 Best, Albino
Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4
Hi. 2012/5/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. My blog in the WP [0]: Can I edit the cwiki ? Yes, anyone can sign up for a wiki account. I have account. :) Thank you! Best, Albino
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 Released
Hi. I send to VOL (Viva O Linux): va.mu/VFsa Others links: va.mu/VFsw va.mu/VFsy Best, Albino
Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
Hi. 2012/5/6 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org +1 I agree. It looks like doing a reset and then rebuilding this structure in a way that is appropriate for Apache OpenOffice is the best way forward. +1 Beginng of zero. With all the ideas here so far. Some old infos: Iso: http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/iso_download.html Art: http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/cdart/previous_cdart.html Best, Albino
Re: [WWW] OOO-Site Publishing Blackout
Hi. 2012/5/7 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net Hi All, We'll be making a change to the www.openoffice.org site banner. We'll need an ooo-site publishing blackout until the release is announced. Let's start this at 3PM EDT which is less than 2 hours. Please continue to make ooo-site changes testing on staging. They'll all be published at once when the release is officially announced. Regards, Dave Ok. If need of have tests warn us. :) Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. How is the progress of the vote ? [0] I see no change yet. Waiting an result positive. :-) 0 - issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532 Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi 2012/5/7 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org The Spanish proposal only got one +1 ;) http://markmail.org/message/gxcn6ksi3cz26rjb You simply have to wait the 72 hrs :) The 72h the ended (04/May/12 20:39) since the reactivate of proposal. Then update the JIRA issue with the link to the proposal thread and the name of the moderators. The moderators of list are I and Claudio. I did the update in the JIRA. Thanks Ariel. Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. 2012/5/7 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com The moderators of list are I and Claudio. I did the update in the JIRA. Thanks Ariel. Best, Albino Sorry! Just completing, for volunteering to moderate the mailing list: I, Claudio and Luiz. :) Tks, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. 2012/5/7 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Just in case, please add a list with the names and the mails; like: Moderators: 1. Albino Biasutti Neto, biasuttin at gmail dot com 2. Claudio F. Filho, filhocf at gmail dot com 3. Luiz (?) I was about to do it myself, when I found there are two Luiz: luizheli luizheli at gmail dot com Luiz Oliveira lcoluiggi at gmail dot com I'm not sure who is the Luiz future moderator here, so please add the list yourself :) Ok, :) The moderators: 1. Albino Biasutti Neto, biasuttin at gmail dot com 2. Claudio F. Filho, filhocf at gmail dot com 3. Luiz Oliveira, lcoluiggi at gmail dot com I added in JIRA, thanks. Best, Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2012/5/1 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com: Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ? As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil. Very good, Albino. For brazilian profile is essential this social networks. I think that you can do for pt-BR in Twitter and Identi.ca too. I can help you as admin of them. @Rob, do you see some problem with this? I trust in Albino, and he works with me in our localization. Best, Claudio As no answer came the suggestion, I created the page in the G + AOOBr (and more): Organize: identi.ca e twitter: @apacheoobr hastag: #aoobr #apacheoobr Fbook: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr/292752464142929 G+: plus.google.com/112706983446689880036 Best, Albino
Re: Who is Page Maintainer Now? http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/
Hi. There days was thinking in the creation or reformulation of the cd/dvd AOO, could create thread about this. In future create cd/dvd with Apache OpenOffice 3.4 and/or next versions. Best, Albino
Re: Would there be any interest in starting a AOO Group on Launchpad
Hi. 2012/5/5 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2012/5/5 Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com: This is definitely part of the fun. :-) hehehe... Indeed! :-) PS join the team and we can make this voyage of discovery together. I think that already have a good group for this. I will start set up a debian mirror for AOO in my userspace. In other hand, i am returning my studies of AOO build and debian packaging specifically. I can also help you in this. Studying :-P Best, Albino
Re: Question about the donations for the apache openoffice project
Hi. 2012/5/5 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Daniel Albrecht l3i...@gmx.net wrote: Dear Sir or Madam, I'm working on a school project and I have a question about apache openoffice. I have no information found on the internet about it. To what degree are the financial support for the openoffice project? Hi Daniel, Apache OpenOffice is a project at the Apache Software Foundation (ASF). The ASF is a non-profit organization with the mission of publishing open source software for the public good. All of the programming, testing, documentation, translations, support, website, etc., are done by project volunteers. The ASF does not pay for developers. The funds needed to support the ASF's very small administrative needs, as well as hardware, is provided by sponsors, listed here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html -Rob thanks in advance -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a Today was thinking this. I illuminated the question that had. :-P Tks Rob. Best, Albino Best, Albino
Re: After AOO 3.4?
Hi. 2012/5/5 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com 2012/5/5 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com: Hi. We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research, created polls, and others. We need to get statistics AOO. Best, Albino Before that, we need to define who our end users are. We need a set of ideal users with clear needs: students who do their homework, independent writers that use on-line publishing systems, small companies that need to create an invoice or maintain a database of supplies... Yes. Replie We have to focus on end users [...] :) Best, Albino
Mailing list pt-BR
Hi. In link[1] have information the list pt-br. I sending an test occur problems, see: The list no active ? I went to subscribe (*-subscribe@) was also observed the same problem. 1 - http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html Best, Albino -- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-dae...@googlemail.com Date: 2012/5/4 Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) To: biasut...@gmail.com Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: ooo-geral-p...@incubator.apache.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 mail to ooo-geral-p...@incubator.apache.org not accepted here (state 13). - Original message - DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uxYlR5OjP/0wi+k7xSSEDnDgX/pbRkVjIT1ly9OEQ4o=; b=xDHThnMMKEWV8+vyXnlnHy3M6ieLp7bbjnO6ftQbRhFvmyR6LFUxVuftc51DnmazBJ vhbZsRw55p44ocWIi/01L113JFQTby/hzS1ZbUFSzjLdiehLfRC8OUlr8VZraGepOPbD 2q1DduDCwwPlGvqR0G/QgFyipNnRI2AiiQBu5uzdkQZKsEcLIyDyHVE1eDGD0HCzdlYa XA8eINIO/YKjDUWGa8KoFHBpYrl2XQEJ7xd0dgfZ8VF7ZVWeyZhLhplp/mRCDtS+5D4Z V9yf49gi2oQ+B0JN8c6NH+0xa0thN9qI0fOZ4BsJnHkLilTZ8JEkaN30VQ0XUzzVEI7t FdvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.101.8 with SMTP id fc8mr12172588wib.12.1336131040589; Fri, 04 May 2012 04:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.126.100 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2012 04:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:30:40 -0300 Message-ID: caf-tss8zzrwnja_1lndi6ffpl2+6czcwojutq_ycpvhbtxa...@mail.gmail.com Subject: Teste From: Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com To: ooo-geral-p...@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444044c0c370a04bf34402e Teste Abraços, Albino
Re: Mailing list pt-BR
Hi. 2012/5/4 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:41:09AM -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: I went to subscribe (*-subscribe@) was also observed the same problem. 1 - http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html I removed it from the list of mailing lists. PPMC can only ask the suggestion to open the list in pt-BR? I was reading that should have be at least 3 users and already we have today. +1 to activate the list pt-BR :) Best, Albino
[PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. 2012/5/4 Roberto Salomon roberto.salo...@gmail.com That being said, however, I must agree with Louis. Despite the ease of engaging local communities, local lists also quickly led to communication problems between the local and the international groups putting them, sometimes, at opposite ends Yes. The interaction with users who do not understand much English, and the interaction with users who do not understand much English, and communication of us Brazilians on the here AOO. 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi See here for an example of how to propose a new list: http://markmail.org/message/wlbesmw3wfa2j67l 1) Propose it in a new thread, with a clear title Ok. 2) Name of list Brazilian users Mailing List: ooo-geral-p...@incubator.apache.org, 3) Purpose of list, topics it will cover QA, localization, announcements, generic discussions, and the project list is for volunteers only (not for users) and it is used to coordinate activities in brazilian, and others. 4) Who will moderate the list? Should list 2 or 3 ok Must include PPMC members. Me. Can also Claudio moderate the list. I'm not member PPMC, Claudio is the. 5) Wait 72 hours to see if there are any objections. Ok. Thanks Rob, Albino
Re: New Committer: Roberto Galoppini
Hi. 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Roberto Galoppini, galoppini@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo. Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html. - the Apache OpenOffice PPMC Congratulation Galoppini. :) Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of a mailing list for brazilian volunteers
Hi. 2012/5/4 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org I will be moderator too, Ariel. I think that we can collect votes for this. I reopened the issue at JIRA[1] [1]http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532 +1 from me. yes, this is a good idea. The only objection from the Infra people was the missing PROPOSAL thread :) We have tree moderators: me, Claudio and Luiz. :) Thanks Claudio. Best, Albino
Re: [Ubuntu Packaging] Project and blueprint related to the team
Hi. 2012/5/4 drew d...@baseanswers.com Hi Wolf, et al Well, not exactly sure I did this correctly - but not doing anything is sure to be wrong, no? https://code.launchpad.net/~apacheopenoffice/apacheopenoffice/AOO34 As I said, if I did the right then here shortly the code should be migrating from AOO svn into launchpad' bazzar. Good idea. The distribution is always growing and is very good to use the launchpad. Best, Albino
Re: After AOO 3.4?
Hi. We have to focus on end users, and seek feedback to research, created polls, and others. We need to get statistics AOO. Best, Albino
Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO
Hi. 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4. I think this is critical, since the average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use Google+ or Twitter. But almost every user, current and potential, does use Facebook. So it is our best opportunity for engaging with users. Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO Like the page! :) I need your help in managing and running this page. I'm offering to hand total control of this page over to the PPMC. If anyone (from the PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email address associated with your Facebook account. You can send this to me via private email if you prefer. So, is anyone willing to help? Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this is very welcome as well, from all volunteers: 1) Like the page 2) Share the page with your friends 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post them on our Wall 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally help with any user questions. Thanks. With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account. Identi.ca and twitter brazilian @apacheoobr I'll also create page in facebook brazil: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr The have in same thinking you Rob about the page(s). Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the ability to remove other admins, including removing me. So I have absolutely no exclusive special privileges. I'm reserving nothing. I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC. Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use. I've asked repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical steps [3] needed to make this transition. I think it was worth the effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur. However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So I hope I have your support. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j Regards, -Rob Best, Albino
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
Hi. 2012/5/3 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Understand, thanks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus One question?! The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages and then. It would be a good idea, if he make available. Thanks, Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen Congratulation! :) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio I am announcing in the social networks the @apacheoobr (created by me), with the link [1]. Need requires a formal annuncious on the blog AOO (when making the article, make translatios to pt-br). :) 1 - http://va.mu/UytJ Tks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/5/2 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio I am announcing in the social networks the @apacheoobr (created by me), with the link [1]. OK, can you please coordinate with Claudio? Timing should be next Tuesday, May 8th. thanks Yes, of course! :) Good date, May 8th. Best, Albino Need requires a formal annuncious on the blog AOO (when making the article, make translatios to pt-br). :) 1 - http://va.mu/UytJ Tks. Albino
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
Hi. 2012/5/2 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net It occurs with the Ubuntu packaging of LibO. I've installed on Ubuntu (11.04 11.10) OOo/AOO and LibO from their respective websites and there is no problem (LibO default packages from Ubuntu being removed first of course). Hagar Me too. I also removed the LibO, using only the AOO. :) 2012/5/2 Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb Best, Albino
Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted
Hi. 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support. To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives, the UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage scenarios. The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to compliment their physical and virtual realities. Thoughts? Interested? Good idea ! I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;) Best, Albino
Re: Introduces
Hi. 2012/5/2 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com Hello Kevin, Thanks for the sweet words. What we did here in Brazil with the Journal BrOffice was a great experience for all of us because the entire production of the magazine was made by BrOffice suite (Writer and Draw). With this, we were the first to learn how to use the tool and help people with tips and tutorials. Furthermore, we did interviews with CIOs of companies that went through migrations to BrOffice/OpenOffice. I really like your idea of having the focus on the user. In my opinion, for this type of project (a magazine) work it takes a very active community. We already have the social media, local lists are being created. Do you think it possible to produce an electronic journal edited and produced using only free software and Apache OpenOffice? I think so! rgds, I also think so. Plans of the future! :) Luiz has done and does great job. The magazine BrOffice was good, with an best content, contributors, etc. 2012/5/1 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Your experience and background could be of huge assistance to the UX effort moving forward. Product design is a multidisciplinary activity, and your skills and experience are really impressive. I want to transform the AOO design approach to be more oriented around people, versus technology. I want to focus the strategic planning and design direction less on features, and more on how people use AOO in the context of their lives - multi-device, cloud and social and more... Best regards, Kevin The focus on users is very important. Conduct research with end users, businesses to learn the use of aoo. First is the conquest with end users and experients. Best, Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. 2012/4/29 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Andrea. On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: In return, and to demonstrate that this is not about control on my part, I'm happy to listen to any proposal you [Alexandro] might have regarding open PPMC access to the Twitter account. And if you make your Twitter account just as openly available to PPMC members as I've done with the new one, then I'll be happy to notify followers of the new Twitter account that they should follow the one that you turn over to PPMC control. This is a very reasonable proposal and it would be a positive, constructive outcome of this long discussion. Just to clarify, I'm not personally interested in managing any of the social OpenOffice channels, let alone posting content there: I would just like that the project has one clear official channel on each social media, with shared access. Users are already confused enough. On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to duplicate efforts. Agreed. Now if Alexandro and Rob will just work together... on management, tools and strategy. It will be great. I'm looking forward to it. I think you miss the point entirely, Dave. This is not about Alexandro. This is not about me. This is about what the PPMC wants. We've already had a discussion on this list about official pages and the decisions from that thread have already been implemented. those pages are under PPMC control. We did not need anything from Alexandro to do that. We still don't. I get your point. I have a different point. We may not need Alexandro to do anything, but I want him involved, and if I am reading correctly others do as well. Community over code, dude. We want to work together. Have a good weekend. I have no desire to discuss this further. Regards, Dave - World peace - not whirled peas -Rob Regards, Dave Regards, Andrea. The social network is to write/speak on annuncius the aoo, continually. I can also contribute to the any networks, ok. Best, Albino @bino28 Good I will add you to the Google plus page. Thanks! We have G+ page, this isn't page oficial [1]. -1 to that. We're limiting authoring rights to PPMC members. Also, we already have a Google+ page. I understand aoo political. Since you've expressed interest in avoiding duplication of effort, could you please give some attention to getting the PPMC involved in your OpenOffice.org Facebook page. You could actually accomplish something there if you tried. -Rob identi.ca and twitter = ok hastag = ok g+ = ok 1 - http://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668 fbook = not Social networking is important, it also marketing the aoo, all know. This discussion has been held on what I read, I *apologize for something. Best, Albino Alessandro, what think edit page G+ for AOOBr ? As we have an official page in G+, but not yet have the Brazil. Tks, Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. 2012/5/1 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: 1) Do we have a ooo-geral-ptbr mailing list set up already? If not, I'd recommend starting with that. Having a strong pt_br presence in the project, to support translation, marketing, communications and user support is critical. That becomes the base that supports a successful social media campaign. When i did the request[1], hadn't support from PPCM. I remember that you was volunteer as admin. [1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532 The create list suggestion Claudio. 2) If we do have the mailing list set up already, then I'd recommend discussing the social media question there as well. Today, our list is here[2], and we coordinate our works there. [2] http://listas.escritoriolivre.org/listinfo.cgi/geral-escritoriolivre.org Yes, we used this list. 3) If Albino (or any other contributor) is trusted and is actively contributing to the project, then we should ask whether their project role should reflect that level of contribution. In other words, the goal is not to put PPMC responsibilities to non-PPMC members. But the goal is to turn those volunteers who take on additional responsibilities into PPMC members. See the difference? Absolutely, Rob, and agree. Me too, Absolutely Rob. 4) Personally, I think we want the social media accounts to be accountable/answerable to the PPMC. Having them run by active PPMC members is one way. And i will do. I will be this PPMC member with him. Thank you too much. I can also contribute social networking aoo and aoobr. Claudio Best, Albino
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. I created account AOOBr social networking: identi.ca and twitter: @apacheoobr Best, Albino @bino28
Re: Introduces
Hi Luiz. 2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com Hi, I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite / BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to contribute to more Brazilians know it. [1] http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw rgds, Luiz Oliveira Welcome friend. ;) We are the list Escritório Livre [1]. 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org Best, Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Andrea. On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: In return, and to demonstrate that this is not about control on my part, I'm happy to listen to any proposal you [Alexandro] might have regarding open PPMC access to the Twitter account. And if you make your Twitter account just as openly available to PPMC members as I've done with the new one, then I'll be happy to notify followers of the new Twitter account that they should follow the one that you turn over to PPMC control. This is a very reasonable proposal and it would be a positive, constructive outcome of this long discussion. Just to clarify, I'm not personally interested in managing any of the social OpenOffice channels, let alone posting content there: I would just like that the project has one clear official channel on each social media, with shared access. Users are already confused enough. On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to duplicate efforts. Agreed. Now if Alexandro and Rob will just work together... on management, tools and strategy. It will be great. I'm looking forward to it. I think you miss the point entirely, Dave. This is not about Alexandro. This is not about me. This is about what the PPMC wants. We've already had a discussion on this list about official pages and the decisions from that thread have already been implemented. those pages are under PPMC control. We did not need anything from Alexandro to do that. We still don't. I get your point. I have a different point. We may not need Alexandro to do anything, but I want him involved, and if I am reading correctly others do as well. Community over code, dude. We want to work together. Have a good weekend. I have no desire to discuss this further. Regards, Dave - World peace - not whirled peas -Rob Regards, Dave Regards, Andrea. The social network is to write/speak on annuncius the aoo, continually. I can also contribute to the any networks, ok. Best, Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Hi. 2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Andrea. On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: In return, and to demonstrate that this is not about control on my part, I'm happy to listen to any proposal you [Alexandro] might have regarding open PPMC access to the Twitter account. And if you make your Twitter account just as openly available to PPMC members as I've done with the new one, then I'll be happy to notify followers of the new Twitter account that they should follow the one that you turn over to PPMC control. This is a very reasonable proposal and it would be a positive, constructive outcome of this long discussion. Just to clarify, I'm not personally interested in managing any of the social OpenOffice channels, let alone posting content there: I would just like that the project has one clear official channel on each social media, with shared access. Users are already confused enough. On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to duplicate efforts. Agreed. Now if Alexandro and Rob will just work together... on management, tools and strategy. It will be great. I'm looking forward to it. I think you miss the point entirely, Dave. This is not about Alexandro. This is not about me. This is about what the PPMC wants. We've already had a discussion on this list about official pages and the decisions from that thread have already been implemented. those pages are under PPMC control. We did not need anything from Alexandro to do that. We still don't. I get your point. I have a different point. We may not need Alexandro to do anything, but I want him involved, and if I am reading correctly others do as well. Community over code, dude. We want to work together. Have a good weekend. I have no desire to discuss this further. Regards, Dave - World peace - not whirled peas -Rob Regards, Dave Regards, Andrea. The social network is to write/speak on annuncius the aoo, continually. I can also contribute to the any networks, ok. Best, Albino @bino28 Good I will add you to the Google plus page. Thanks! We have G+ page, this isn't page oficial [1]. -1 to that. We're limiting authoring rights to PPMC members. Also, we already have a Google+ page. I understand aoo political. Since you've expressed interest in avoiding duplication of effort, could you please give some attention to getting the PPMC involved in your OpenOffice.org Facebook page. You could actually accomplish something there if you tried. -Rob identi.ca and twitter = ok hastag = ok g+ = ok 1 - http://plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668 fbook = not Social networking is important, it also marketing the aoo, all know. This discussion has been held on what I read, I *apologize for something. Best, Albino
Re: Text in linux dot com
Hi. 2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: linux.com/news/software/applications/569606-apache-openoffice-lagging-behind-libreoffice-in-features I'm didn't like text. Negative marketing for me. Just ignore it. The closer we get to releasing AOO 3.4, the more we will hear FUD from those who are afraid of it. Yes. The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on. \o/ Excelent! :) -Rob Best, Albino @bino28 Best, Albino
Re: [Proposal] Official Google+ Page for Apache OpenOffice
Hi. 2012/4/26 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:24 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: please add me lilyzh...@gmail.com Done. -Rob Lily 2012/4/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Like Twitter and Facebook, Google+ is a good way to engage with users and the larger OpenOffice ecosystem. Unlike Twitter, Google+ has some enhanced capabilities, such as ease of sharing pictures and video and chat hangouts. The user base is slightly different as well. Google+ is more cutting edge at present, compared to Twitter, and has more early adopters. An important capability from the perspective of the PPMC is that Google+ has built in support for allowing multiple account managers, allowing us to put an account under PPMC control and share responsibilities for maintaining it. I'm proposing that we make this Google+ account into the official Google+ account for the project. I'd be happy to add any PPMC members who are willing to help me with it. Just send me your Google ID and I will add you. snip https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/114598373874764163668/about /snip -Rob Join! :) Best, Albino @bino28 Officialy page identi.ca and twitter ! @apacheoo but used hastag: #aoo #apacheoo Tks, Albino @bino28
Re: Pages in the social media
Tks. :) Send by Android. Mensagem enviada via Android. Albino @bino28 Em 27/04/2012 16:42, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org escreveu: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. For organize pages in the social medias: The master list is here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/social.html identi.ca and twitter: @apacheoo Yes. Google Plus: plus.google.com/u/0/114598373874764163668 Yes. What pages in Facebook ? All. https://www.facebook.com/pages/OpenOfficeorg/153010651492897?ref=ts https://www.facebook.com/pages/Apache-OpenOffice/209053572542795 https://www.facebook.com/pages/OpenOfficeorg/252334251512786 None of these are run by the project, as far as I know. Group in fbook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/ This is the one that Raphael has set up. It is a FB group, not a page. I don't understand the difference well. Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [Proposal] Official Google+ Page for Apache OpenOffice
Hi. 2012/4/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:24 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: please add me lilyzh...@gmail.com Done. -Rob Lily 2012/4/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Like Twitter and Facebook, Google+ is a good way to engage with users and the larger OpenOffice ecosystem. Unlike Twitter, Google+ has some enhanced capabilities, such as ease of sharing pictures and video and chat hangouts. The user base is slightly different as well. Google+ is more cutting edge at present, compared to Twitter, and has more early adopters. An important capability from the perspective of the PPMC is that Google+ has built in support for allowing multiple account managers, allowing us to put an account under PPMC control and share responsibilities for maintaining it. I'm proposing that we make this Google+ account into the official Google+ account for the project. I'd be happy to add any PPMC members who are willing to help me with it. Just send me your Google ID and I will add you. snip https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/114598373874764163668/about /snip -Rob Join! :) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 community campaign
Hi. 2012/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org It is late for this idea, since we are probably only a week away from release AOO 3.4. But I think it is important to connect the dots on this. Is anyone willing to help with this over the next few days? I'd like to have a page on the website to help enthusiastic OpenOffice users help us share the good news about Apache OpenOffice 3.4. It would enable the individual blogger, or even a user who is an active social networking user, to help spread the news about the AOO 3.4 release. As we know, enthusiasm is not always matched by time-to-spare, graphical skill, or deep knowledge about what is in the 3.4 release. So putting this kind of information together, in one place, where it is easy to consume and reuse, will be wonderful. Ideally, the page would have the following kind of content: 1) An AOO 3.4 download logo, that a blogger can use to link to download.openoffice.org. We have some proposed icons (from Drew) here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals Maybe we can agree on one of these and get some common sizes rendered. We probably need translations as well. 2) A short description of what Apache OpenOffice 3.4 is, from perspective of a brand new user. A paragraph or two, with some screen shots. Something a blogger can reuse or adapt. Again, we'll need translations as well. 3) A short description of what is new in Apache OpenOffice 3.4, from perspective of an existing OOo users. Again, screen shots, and translations. No one has time to do original research. Best to have the basic facts already written up and allow the blogger to reuse the information and add their own color commentary. 4) Some interesting factoids about how AOO 3,4 was made. Maybe touch on the new hosting of extensions/templates, # of lines of code changed, the change to Apache license, etc. What are the fun facts? 5) Any YouTube videos we want to link to? 6) A contact where they can go for more information. Probably ooo-dev. 7) Anything else? Note that this is almost like a press kit or a reviewers guide, but targeting community supporters of AOO rather than accredited journalists. But a similar idea. Respect that they don't have time to dig this information out of a dozen places in our wiki. If we want it to happen, we need to make it easy for them. So who's in with this? We don't have time to debate this for a week. But if 2 or 3 others are willing to help, starting today, on these items, then I think we can pull it off. Maybe get it all done, in English, targeting end of week, and then work on translations early next week? -Rob I and Claudio are thinking in reactivate the domain openoffice.org.br for infos AOO etc, in pt-BR. I had all of this idea that you had now. Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 community campaign
Hi. 2012/4/25 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 20:15 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi. 2012/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org It is late for this idea, since we are probably only a week away from release AOO 3.4. But I think it is important to connect the dots on this. Is anyone willing to help with this over the next few days? I'd like to have a page on the website to help enthusiastic OpenOffice users help us share the good news about Apache OpenOffice 3.4. It would enable the individual blogger, or even a user who is an active social networking user, to help spread the news about the AOO 3.4 release. As we know, enthusiasm is not always matched by time-to-spare, graphical skill, or deep knowledge about what is in the 3.4 release. So putting this kind of information together, in one place, where it is easy to consume and reuse, will be wonderful. Ideally, the page would have the following kind of content: 1) An AOO 3.4 download logo, that a blogger can use to link to download.openoffice.org. We have some proposed icons (from Drew) here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Logo+Proposals Maybe we can agree on one of these and get some common sizes rendered. We probably need translations as well. 2) A short description of what Apache OpenOffice 3.4 is, from perspective of a brand new user. A paragraph or two, with some screen shots. Something a blogger can reuse or adapt. Again, we'll need translations as well. 3) A short description of what is new in Apache OpenOffice 3.4, from perspective of an existing OOo users. Again, screen shots, and translations. No one has time to do original research. Best to have the basic facts already written up and allow the blogger to reuse the information and add their own color commentary. 4) Some interesting factoids about how AOO 3,4 was made. Maybe touch on the new hosting of extensions/templates, # of lines of code changed, the change to Apache license, etc. What are the fun facts? 5) Any YouTube videos we want to link to? 6) A contact where they can go for more information. Probably ooo-dev. 7) Anything else? Note that this is almost like a press kit or a reviewers guide, but targeting community supporters of AOO rather than accredited journalists. But a similar idea. Respect that they don't have time to dig this information out of a dozen places in our wiki. If we want it to happen, we need to make it easy for them. So who's in with this? We don't have time to debate this for a week. But if 2 or 3 others are willing to help, starting today, on these items, then I think we can pull it off. Maybe get it all done, in English, targeting end of week, and then work on translations early next week? -Rob I and Claudio are thinking in reactivate the domain openoffice.org.brfor infos AOO etc, in pt-BR. I had all of this idea that you had now. Best, Hi Albino I'm just curious - what do you feel you can do with openoffice.org.br that you could not do with openoffice.apahce.org/br, for instance? Suggestion, ok. Many ideas are around. :-) Thanks for you time on that, //drew Tks, Albino @bino28
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
HI. 2012/4/24 Risto Jääskeläinen rjaas...@saunalahti.fi -1 (nobody) For Finnish package only. Reason: http://www.saunalahti.fi/**rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.**jpghttp://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg Print dialog/window is working but it is so wide that it needs two screen (over 2000 pixel). So if Finnish is dropped out now and published with next minor version if there is possible integrate newest translations then? Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. Claudio, me and our community [1] are translating AOO for pt-BR, with program Lokalize (gnome and kde). There small problems on synchronize the archives. The organize in our list the e-mail. I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting Regards Risto Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... The tests in AOO, very good! I am using the exclusively program AOO in my notebook. 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org Abraços, Albino @bino28
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. My vote: [ X ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... The finished vote AOO in RC1 [1]. Officially Apache OpenOffice RC1? Thanks. 1 - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/4/22 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2012/4/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Blog post: http://www.escritoriolivre.org/artigo/extens%C3%B5es-no-apache-openoffice This is Luiz, our old OOo/BrOo user group leader in Brazil. snip And how we haven't a brazilian portuguese list here, i started the work (localization and some tests) in this site, our brazilian comunity seed. /snip Yes! The Claudio started the work (localization and some tests), our brazilian comunity. :) I was inspired by him. Best, Claudio The tests is successfully. :) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/4/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: snip You snipped out the important part: Sorry, thought you answered your own question there. But since you bring it up, there is no requirement for a DISCLAIMER file. There is however a requirement for making the user aware of the incubation disclaimer. See this page, where several options are listed: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer Keep in mind that page is clearly labeled as a DRAFT. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#status The DISCLAIMER file is certainly in the correct place in the Source distribution. I think that I answered the question, but I would like to ask our project Mentors if this will be an issue in IPMC voting. I've seen enough on general@i.a.o to know that it may be for some and not others. Not an issue for me either. That fact that OpenOffice is under incubation at Apache has been leading tech news for nearly a year now. People who know nothing else about Apache know this fact. So, while this is not a problem for me, if it is likely IPMC will request an RC2 over this we should know now. But worth taking it through the voting process, IMHO, to see if there are any other issues. One big issue or several smaller ones could be enough for us to kill the vote prematurely. But it would be extremely inefficient to waste 48-hours preparing another RC every time someone finds a single thing that is not consistent with the self-contradictory draft incubation guidelines. There is no better time than the present to do a complete review. -Rob Regards, Dave -Rob The SDK and Binaries are missing the DISCLAIMER file. Is a missing Incubation DISCLAIMER in a binary package enough to prevent release? I think probably not, but this may be an edge case. The application pop-ups do mention Incubation and every page linked back to thewww.openoffice.org shows the Disclaimer... Regards, Dave -Rob I installed some extensions in aoo: cogroo, vero and smart, congratulation! :) More tests... ;) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: Merry Christmas and some private thoughts
users would like to see a huge and working community with the participation of a lot of different companies or at least their employees working on the project. We all know that such a huge and successful project can only work if we have individual community members as well as fulltime community members. Important is the WE and the TOGETHER that makes open source projects successful. I heart voices and read emails where people said that Apache is not able to manage such a huge end user oriented project with all the necessary things. A strong statement, isn't it. At the beginning i have to confess that i also had doubts and wasn't sure. But as i have mentioned in an earlier email that i have seen and got the necessary signals over time that Apache is willing to listen and is open for changes as well if they make sense for the overall success of our project and if these changes are aligned with the overall Apache principles. And i think that is fair enough for all. The move to Apache is a big challenge for all of us. Apache had many very successful projects but none of the these project has such a hue end-user focus like OpenOffice. And it is no small project, no it is one of biggest and most successful open source projects ever. And the migration was and is not easy. But we the community can do it, we as individuals, everybody can help and we together will do it! And the Apache way and the Apache license have proven in the past and with many successful projects that it is a good way and a good license to achieve this. Enough from me for now and i will take a break over the Christmas days to relax a little bit with family and friends. I will read emails from time to time but not too much ;-) I wish you all merry Christmas, enjoy the days, take your own break too, load your batteries for our next challenge in 2012. Regards Juergen Good post! Merry Christmas for all. Hugs, Albino -- Albino Biasutti Neto Chave GPG: 1A867107 www.tux-es.org www.binoinformatica.com http://blog.binoinformatica.com
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Open Letter to the Open Document Format Ecosystem
Hi. 2011/12/20 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com The Apache Software Foundation posted an Open Letter to the Open Document Format Ecosystem[1] this morning. ASF Publicity also posted the letter to the PR Newswire[2] for broad dissemination. Ross and I are taking queries from the media. I'll attempt to keep this thread current with any coverage this creates. During interviews, there are bound to be other aspects of the project highlighted as a result. For example, our progress towards a developer build, etc., however, the focus of the letter is 'to articulate our vision for the future of Apache OpenOffice within the wider Open Document Format ecosystem.' The ASF also explains the importance of proper control of its trademarks, including OpenOffice.org. [1] http://s.apache.org/P7e [2]http://s.apache.org/7Dp Good notice. Publicizing the link! Best, Albino -- Albino Biasutti Neto Chave GPG: *1A867107* www.tux-es.org www.binoinformatica.com http://blog.binoinformatica.com
Re: Too many lists
+1 I see that the project AOO is getting quite mature, and capable of other lists. 2011/12/14 Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com I'm really concerned about the tendency of the AOO project to keep proposing and seriously considering new lists (well that is probably over stating it, but I am genuinely concerned). Each time you create a list you separate the community from itself. It should not happen until there is a proven need for it. Splitting the community in this way leads to questions like which list should this be on and subsequently which list should I search to find the answer to this. The most recent example is the I10n proposal. It will, probably, become necessary to create such a list in the future. But i10n affects everyone, not just those doing translations. The discussion about how to structure the I10n effort in AOO should happen here where everyone can easily find it. Clear email subjects will allow people to quickly skip over emails on topics they are not concerned about, but it ensures that nobody is forced off into a quiet corner where they are all alone. Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com Best, -- Albino Biasutti Neto www.tux-es.org www.binoinformatica.com http://blog.binoinformatica.com
