[osol-discuss] Study of online communities
Description: Academic research project on online communities Keywords: Survey, Social Study, Online Communities You contribute to the OPENSOLARIS community ! We want to share insights about it with you. We invite you to participate in an online community social study. It will be compared to other online communities on the internet. · Please follow this URL to take the survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=iLetOZOZDnNWMe5kqbdADw_3d_3d · It should take approximately 10 minutes. · We share results of our study with all participants. · We give our contact information at the end of the survey. We appreciate your participation. It will help us a great deal. Thank you in advance ! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Intel wireless 4965 issues with Intel graphic 965
Hi, I have a Sony VGN-CR220E which both wireless and graphic cards are Intel; WL 4965 and GM 965. As long as I do not install the driver for the wireless card (the new one on OpenSolaris) the X window starts but just once I install the wireless driver, I can't run the X window anymore. I have tried all the possible settings in Xsun, even those that worked before installing the wireless driver, no luck! I have tried it on NV79, from Sun website, SXDE 01/08. Anyone can help me with this? Cheers! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Upgrade automatically
Hello, I have an architecture client serveur. Each time I want to upgrade patch which are installed on client machines I do it manually. I want to say how can I detect automatically there is a new version on the serveur machine and How can I launch the install automatically if there is a new version of the patch? This comportment should be applicable on all clients machines. Thanks for your help. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Hi, I just compiled and installed the wget program. After installation I tried to type wget, but nothing happened. So I saw that it has been installed into /usr/local. Further investigation has shown that wget was the only tool which has been installed into /usr/local (yet). So my question is if I should copy all under /usr/local into /usr. Or would it be better to modify my path variable? What is the standard way under Solaris with such GNU tools? Roman This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Roman Morokutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just compiled and installed the wget program. After installation I tried to type wget, but nothing happened. So I saw that it has been installed into /usr/local. Further investigation has shown that wget was the only tool which has been installed into /usr/local (yet). So my question is if I should copy all under /usr/local into /usr. Or would it be better to modify my path variable? What is the standard way under Solaris with such GNU tools? wget should already be on a Solaris 10 system: /usr/sfw/bin/wget /usr/local or /opt/local is where programs you compile and install yourself should go. Just add /usr/local/bin to your PATH. and /usr/local/man to your MANPATH -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so. - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wget should already be on a Solaris 10 system: /usr/sfw/bin/wget /usr/local or /opt/local is where programs you compile and install yourself should go. In favor of /opt/vendor/..., /usr/local has been declared obsolete 20 years ago on SunOS and many other UNIX like OS. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Roman Morokutti : Hi, I just compiled and installed the wget program. After installation I tried to type wget, but nothing happened. So I saw that it has been installed into /usr/local. when configuring, you should be able to set the prefix to /usr instead of the default /usr/local. You can try ./configure --prefix=/usr Harry Further investigation has shown that wget was the only tool which has been installed into /usr/local (yet). So my question is if I should copy all under /usr/local into /usr. Or would it be better to modify my path variable? What is the standard way under Solaris with such GNU tools? Roman This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Harry Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman Morokutti : Hi, I just compiled and installed the wget program. After installation I tried to type wget, but nothing happened. So I saw that it has been installed into /usr/local. when configuring, you should be able to set the prefix to /usr instead of the default /usr/local. You can try ./configure --prefix=/usr Installing unpackaged software under /usr is asking for trouble if you later try to install other packages. I would highly discourage doing that. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so. - Robert Orben ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Roman Morokutti writes: I just compiled and installed the wget program. After installation I tried to type wget, but nothing happened. So I saw that it has been installed into /usr/local. wget comes with Solaris in /usr/bin. Further investigation has shown that wget was the only tool which has been installed into /usr/local (yet). Right; Solaris doesn't ship with /usr/local. So my question is if I should copy all under /usr/local into /usr. Or would it be better to modify my path variable? What is the standard way under Solaris with such GNU tools? You shouldn't be modifying anything under the standard /usr directories. See filesystem(5) for more information about the standard locations and the way /usr/local and /opt are used -- those are the places that non-integrated (third party) software is delivered. Note that Solaris comes with most useful GNU tools, so you shouldn't have to do much (if any) of this. Others are easily available from sunfreeware or blastwave -- highly recommended if your time is valuable. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Joerg Schilling schrieb: In favor of /opt/vendor/..., /usr/local has been declared obsolete 20 years ago on SunOS and many other UNIX like OS. Interesting to know. Thank you for this info. But should I then put /opt/schily/bin and /opt/schily/man into the PATH and MANPATH respectively? Or should I compile and install into /usr as Harry Lu stated with ./configure --prefix=/usr? I just want GNOME to use the recently built cdrecord. Roman ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
James Carlson schrieb: wget comes with Solaris in /usr/bin. I found it in /usr/sfw/bin. Right; Solaris doesn't ship with /usr/local. As Jörg Schilling said, this directory has been obsolated by Solaris. You shouldn't be modifying anything under the standard /usr directories. See filesystem(5) for more information about the standard locations and the way /usr/local and /opt are used -- those are the places that non-integrated (third party) software is delivered. Note that Solaris comes with most useful GNU tools, so you shouldn't have to do much (if any) of this. Others are easily available from sunfreeware or blastwave -- highly recommended if your time is valuable. So this would mean that I have to put those directories such as /opt/[vendor]*/bin into the PATH, wouldn't it? What is with /usr/sfw/bin and /usr/sfw/man respectively anyway. Would that conflict if I put those directories into PATH? Roman ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How can I try SUN xVM
Hi, I would like to give xVM a try. Do I have to install nevada or Solaris 10? Does nexenta have any support for acting as xVM host? I know my questions sound silly, but i have googled a lot about it and but the infos are contradictory. Best regards, mjb ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How can I try SUN xVM
Hi, I would like to give xVM a try. Do I have to install nevada or Solaris 10? Does nexenta have any support for acting as xVM host? I know my questions sound silly, but i have googled a lot about it and but the infos are contradictory. Best regards, mjb ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Directory /usr/local present in default Solaris
Roman Morokutti writes: James Carlson schrieb: wget comes with Solaris in /usr/bin. I found it in /usr/sfw/bin. You're right. I'd thought it'd been moved already, and it hasn't. Right; Solaris doesn't ship with /usr/local. As Jörg Schilling said, this directory has been obsolated by Solaris. It's never been part of Solaris, so I don't see how it could ever have been obsoleted. That doesn't make sense to me. If you read filesystem(5), you'll see that it says that it's not part of SVR4, and it recommends that if you need to have it (because some add-on, typically free software) you should use a symlink to /opt/local and create a directory there. (Personally, I use a zfs mount on top of /usr/local because it's more flexible ... but do what you need.) Note that Solaris comes with most useful GNU tools, so you shouldn't have to do much (if any) of this. Others are easily available from sunfreeware or blastwave -- highly recommended if your time is valuable. So this would mean that I have to put those directories such as /opt/[vendor]*/bin into the PATH, wouldn't it? Yes. What is with /usr/sfw/bin and /usr/sfw/man respectively anyway. They were mistakes. We once thought it'd be a bad idea to have unstable free software in /usr/bin. We've changed our minds about this. Would that conflict if I put those directories into PATH? You wouldn't put .../man into your $PATH, you'd put it in $MANPATH. But, other than that, no, there's no conflict. Just set up your $PATH variable so that it finds the things you want. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Intel wireless 4965 issues with Intel graphic 965
Should be fixed in B85 or B86 when the new X.org ddx shows up - BugID 6667334 http://bugs.opensolaris.org/search.do;jsessionid=9f1e021701f9b541f60f5717de87?process=1type=sortBy=relevancebugStatus=perPage=10bugId=6667334+keyword=textSearch=category=subcategory=since= Andy This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How can I try SUN xVM
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 05:38:41PM +0100, Maciej Jan Broniarz wrote: I would like to give xVM a try. Do I have to install nevada or Solaris 10? Does nexenta have any support for acting as xVM host? I know my questions sound silly, but i have googled a lot about it and but the infos are contradictory. You need to install Nevada. I think the latest version of Nexenta can run as an xVM host (dom0), but I haven't tried. regards john ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
Maybe, just maybe, if the clowns at the DLC figure out, that regardless of their attempts to obfuscate the download process, that there are reasonable people who can always outwit them, then they'll give up their demented plan to marginalize SXCE. I guess you are joking, but I'll indulge in pointing the obvious: the notorious Sun marketing wants to track who is downloading Nevada. I guess they figure they can get the poor IT guys to do the slaving and perform the data mining for them. The end goal should be obvious, not all Nevada downloads are by geeks. Some of the people downloading might actually have money, or work at places willing to shell out money for overpriced Sun gear! No wonder why Sun marketing is so notoriously bad. Irritating: OpenSolaris should have NOTHING to do with Sun, especially Sun marketing. The fact that it still does is frustrating, to say the least. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
UNIX admin wrote: Maybe, just maybe, if the clowns at the DLC figure out, that regardless of their attempts to obfuscate the download process, that there are reasonable people who can always outwit them, then they'll give up their demented plan to marginalize SXCE. I guess you are joking, but I'll indulge in pointing the obvious: the notorious Sun marketing wants to track who is downloading Nevada. I guess they figure they can get the poor IT guys to do the slaving and perform the data mining for them. The end goal should be obvious, not all Nevada downloads are by geeks. Some of the people downloading might actually have money, or work at places willing to shell out money for overpriced Sun gear! No wonder why Sun marketing is so notoriously bad. Irritating: OpenSolaris should have NOTHING to do with Sun, especially Sun marketing. The fact that it still does is frustrating, to say the least. OpenSolaris != SXCE. Sun are free to distribute their OpenSolaris distributions anyway they see fit. Whether they shoot them selves in the foot is their business! Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
Ian Collins wrote: UNIX admin wrote: Maybe, just maybe, if the clowns at the DLC figure out, that regardless of their attempts to obfuscate the download process, that there are reasonable people who can always outwit them, then they'll give up their demented plan to marginalize SXCE. I guess you are joking, but I'll indulge in pointing the obvious: the notorious Sun marketing wants to track who is downloading Nevada. I guess they figure they can get the poor IT guys to do the slaving and perform the data mining for them. The end goal should be obvious, not all Nevada downloads are by geeks. Some of the people downloading might actually have money, or work at places willing to shell out money for overpriced Sun gear! No wonder why Sun marketing is so notoriously bad. Irritating: OpenSolaris should have NOTHING to do with Sun, especially Sun marketing. The fact that it still does is frustrating, to say the least. OpenSolaris != SXCE. Exactly. More to the point SXCE != OpenSolaris. SXCE is Nevada which is Sun Solaris, which while based on OpenSolaris is not OpenSolaris. Sun are free to distribute their OpenSolaris distributions anyway they see fit. Whether they shoot them selves in the foot is their business! That too. -Kyle Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
OpenSolaris != SXCE. Ooohhh no, we're not going down that route! I couldn't care less what gimmicks Ian Co. are pulling, to ME OpenSolaris IS SXCE and SXDE, and it will remain that way no matter WHAT. Even if they kill it. And to anybody that asks me, I'm telling that SXCE and SXDE ARE OpenSolaris. Ian Co. can all go pound sand, what good are their OpenSolaris gimmicks going to be, if the community NEVER embraces it? Forget it! It's just like the technology that only engineers think is cool, and users hate (hello, RBAC!) What good is it if nobody wants to use it? And if I had it my way, I'd abolish all of this OpenSolaris nonsense! There is just Solaris and code. Period. Everything is pure and utter nonsense. Sun are free to distribute their OpenSolaris distributions anyway they see fit. Whether they shoot them selves in the foot is their business! They are also free to alienate the very community that has kept Solaris alive in shops all these decades, when the going got tough, and tough got going. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problems with pam + php + apache2
I've no idea what `phpize` does. I've linked against whichever PAM was on the system, and don't recall having to do any special steps like that to build PHP. phpize is a script installed with php. It is listed in the compile instructions for the pecl pam package. It uses autoconf and automake in /usr/sfw/bin to create the necessary config, make files http://pecl.php.net/package/PAM steps are basically: phpize, configure, make and make install. Thanks for all your help thus far. Maybe you can share the steps how you compile and link against pam in /usr/lib/security I'll give the the -R a shot and provide feedback. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
I'm not going to try to defend the SDC -- this is neither the right list to discuss it nor do I have any connection at all with the people who run that site -- but there's a complication here that I think the folks posting (and vociferously at that) on the thread need to realize. Considering SDC, runs this website, this is the perfect place to bring it up! The existing Solaris Express distribution is not redistributable. It includes licensed software from other entities, in the form of the old CDE environment and Xsun server, among other things. As a result, it just _can't_ be as simple as wget ftp://sun.com/sxce.iso;. I think it'd be great if we could do that, but you may as well yell at the IPR holders rather than those who are legally compelled to follow the rules. That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. Sorry, but that is not logical at all. Either that, or I miserably failed at grasping the logic: what does the premise that SXCE/DE aren't redistributable have to do with the fact that one has to login to download it? How does forcing people to login before downloading prevent or ensure that SXCE/DE won't be redistributed? And why would anybody bother to redistribute 3.5GB worth of stuff that is already available gratis from Sun? What you wrote just doesn't seem to be logically connected. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
a b wrote: OpenSolaris != SXCE. Ooohhh no, we're not going down that route! I couldn't care less what gimmicks Ian Co. are pulling Whether you care or not, Sun are free to do what they like with their distribution. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
a b wrote: The existing Solaris Express distribution is not redistributable. It includes licensed software from other entities, in the form of the old CDE environment and Xsun server, among other things. As a result, it just _can't_ be as simple as wget ftp://sun.com/sxce.iso;. I think it'd be great if we could do that, but you may as well yell at the IPR holders rather than those who are legally compelled to follow the rules. That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. Sorry, but that is not logical at all. Either that, or I miserably failed at grasping the logic: what does the premise that SXCE/DE aren't redistributable have to do with the fact that one has to login to download it? Are you dense or being obtuse? What part of legally compelled to follow the rules don't you grasp? Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ That explains a lot... Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
Whether you care or not, Sun are free to do what they like with their distribution. And I'm free to ignore it and call it whatever I damn well please. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
* a b ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm not going to try to defend the SDC -- this is neither the right list to discuss it nor do I have any connection at all with the people who run that site -- but there's a complication here that I think the folks posting (and vociferously at that) on the thread need to realize. Considering SDC, runs this website, this is the perfect place to bring it up! The existing Solaris Express distribution is not redistributable. It includes licensed software from other entities, in the form of the old CDE environment and Xsun server, among other things. As a result, it just _can't_ be as simple as wget ftp://sun.com/sxce.iso;. I think it'd be great if we could do that, but you may as well yell at the IPR holders rather than those who are legally compelled to follow the rules. That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. Sorry, but that is not logical at all. Either that, or I miserably failed at grasping the logic: what does the premise that SXCE/DE aren't redistributable have to do with the fact that one has to login to download it? Two words. Paper. Trail. How does forcing people to login before downloading prevent or ensure that SXCE/DE won't be redistributed? It doesn't, but it's at least a starting point when/if it becomes necessary to 'track people down' I'd imagine. And why would anybody bother to redistribute 3.5GB worth of stuff that is already available gratis from Sun? I've given up a long time ago on trying to figure out why people do things they shouldn't do. That's an exercise in futility. What you wrote just doesn't seem to be logically connected. Probably because you (like me and many many others) aren't familiar with the intricate details. Case in point, the United States Government has these wonderful laws about exporting Crypto code that can be classified as munitions. And suppliers of Crypto (like Sun) used to (and maybe still does) have to keep tabs on to whom said Crypto is given to. It's not as if Sun wouldn't like to have everything be freely redistributable. Take Indiana, one of it's requirements is that it can only contain freely redistributable content on the livecd just so that we can distribute it as far and as wide as possible with the least amount of hassle. Naturally, that's done to help it's adoption (for one thing). Don't you think that if Sun could do that with SXCE/SXDE they would? I believe part of the reason for Indiana is to address that shortcoming (among many others). -- Glenn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
* a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-11 20:36]: I'm not going to try to defend the SDC -- this is neither the right list to discuss it nor do I have any connection at all with the people who run that site -- but there's a complication here that I think the folks posting (and vociferously at that) on the thread need to realize. Considering SDC, runs this website, this is the perfect place to bring it up! Sort of. One problem is that Solaris is just one of the product groups that use the SDC website. We've talked to them before; we can try again... The existing Solaris Express distribution is not redistributable. It includes licensed software from other entities, in the form of the old CDE environment and Xsun server, among other things. As a result, it just _can't_ be as simple as wget ftp://sun.com/sxce.iso;. I think it'd be great if we could do that, but you may as well yell at the IPR holders rather than those who are legally compelled to follow the rules. That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. Sorry, but that is not logical at all. Either that, or I miserably failed at grasping the logic: My understanding of the approach below. Could be wrong, of course. what does the premise that SXCE/DE aren't redistributable have to do with the fact that one has to login to download it? So that the license that limits how the product can be used is displayed and accepted. How does forcing people to login before downloading prevent or ensure that SXCE/DE won't be redistributed? It doesn't: it ensures that all people doing the download have been presented with the license that states that redistribution is not allowed. And why would anybody bother to redistribute 3.5GB worth of stuff that is already available gratis from Sun? Alternative transports, closer mirrors, burn to media to avoid use of network at all. (These are the reasons some of us spent time excising the encumbered bits--so that Indiana would be redistributable.) - Stephen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blogs.sun.com/sch/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
Ian Collins writes: OpenSolaris != SXCE. Sun are free to distribute their OpenSolaris distributions anyway they see fit. Whether they shoot them selves in the foot is their business! I'm not going to try to defend the SDC -- this is neither the right list to discuss it nor do I have any connection at all with the people who run that site -- but there's a complication here that I think the folks posting (and vociferously at that) on the thread need to realize. The existing Solaris Express distribution is not redistributable. It includes licensed software from other entities, in the form of the old CDE environment and Xsun server, among other things. As a result, it just _can't_ be as simple as wget ftp://sun.com/sxce.iso;. I think it'd be great if we could do that, but you may as well yell at the IPR holders rather than those who are legally compelled to follow the rules. That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [solarisx86] Picking a Laptop for S10/x86
a b writes: That's why it has that click-through license agreement, and why you can't just wget it. The problem isn't just a technical bit of stupidity that can be fixed by application of clue. Sorry, but that is not logical at all. Either that, or I miserably failed at grasping the logic: You're applying logic to a legal restriction. It won't work. And why would anybody bother to redistribute 3.5GB worth of stuff that is already available gratis from Sun? Who cares? The legal requirements for Sun to redistribute those binaries include licensing to users. That's what the site is about. You don't get that with a simple anonymous download. One of the OpenSolaris members sent me private email suggesting using username+password (probably in the clear) with wget. That'd probably work, though it doesn't match what SDC currently does, and I'm no lawyer (and can't evaluate whether it's sufficient). And the folks participating here aren't in the same management group as the SDC people. Not that you care, but that does make a big difference in who can actually do something about it. I think the number one priority should be getting rid of the contention-producing bits (CDE and such), and not trying to optimize an unfortunate situation. Once that's done, we'll have a redistributable binary that can be put anywhere. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
