Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Please go to http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 and vote on this bug, unstable e1000g and wpi network interfaces. Both are unusable on a T61p. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Hi James First of all, thank you very much, but my problem isn't relevant network card, I try to boot a installed solaris from usb disk. James Carlson 写道: Lu Baolu writes: I am encountering an e1000g error on Nevada snv_87. I am not sure whether it is the same as you stated. That's the one. Here's the work-around: One known problem with e1000g is that the new FMA support can cause it to erroneously report itself as faulty, resulting in failures. If fmadm faulty shows a Critical error, then this problem has hit you. The workaround is to plumb the interface with the undocumented DLPI_DEVONLY environment variable set. (You can move /sbin/ifconfig to a different name, then put in a script named /sbin/ifconfig that sets this environment variable to true and exec the original ifconfig.) begin:vcard fn:Jianxun(Kelvin) Chen n:Chen;Jianxun(Kelvin) email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:86-10-68093995 tel;cell:86-13501085870 version:2.1 end:vcard ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Lu Baolu writes: I am encountering an e1000g error on Nevada snv_87. I am not sure whether it is the same as you stated. That's the one. Here's the work-around: One known problem with e1000g is that the new FMA support can cause it to erroneously report itself as faulty, resulting in failures. If fmadm faulty shows a Critical error, then this problem has hit you. The workaround is to plumb the interface with the undocumented DLPI_DEVONLY environment variable set. (You can move /sbin/ifconfig to a different name, then put in a script named /sbin/ifconfig that sets this environment variable to true and exec the original ifconfig.) -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I called Sun and I was willing to spend $324 for a year of support. However, I asked if for my money they could guarantee a solution. I didn't want to shell out $$ for someone to run me through what I've already tried, and then be told they couldn't help. Turns out that Sun doesn't officially support the R61, so paid support wont do any good. Looks like I am SOL. I hope there is an update in a few months and I can give OpenSolaris another chance. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Mark, I work in the services group at Sun. Would be interested to know if you have found anyone who would give you the "guarantee" you are looking for on that specific HW. I would be curious to review the service level commitment they offer. Just trying to make our services better.. Brad Mark Kaiman wrote: I called Sun and I was willing to spend $324 for a year of support. However, I asked if for my money they could guarantee a solution. I didn't want to shell out $$ for someone to run me through what I've already tried, and then be told they couldn't help. Turns out that Sun doesn't officially support the R61, so paid support wont do any good. Looks like I am SOL. I hope there is an update in a few months and I can give OpenSolaris another chance. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Brad Vaughan Software Services Services Product Group Sun Microsystems Inc Phone x81869/+1-408-519-0898 Mobile +1-408-439-1507 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
On 5 Jun 2008, at 14:49, Mark Kaiman wrote: I installed OpenSolaris on my ThinkPad a couple of weeks ago, and I have never been able to get it to work. The wpi0 and e1000g drivers just dont work. I have posted on these forums and on usenet and received some suggestions. I have tried every possible combination of wired and wireless internet. WPA, WEP and no encryption. Let the cable modem reset to a new MAC address. Enable NWAM. Disable NWAM. Endless restarting NWAM. Endless wificonfig connect commands. NOTHING WORKS. I just have to conclude that OpenSolaris isn't ready for prime time and wait for the next release. In contrast, I put SLED 10 on the same ThinkPad and it works fine. Full connectivity. I really want to use Solaris and I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Sun could do a better job supporting people who want to use and enjoy their OS. Have you filed bugs regarding the issues you encountered? That's the first step in receiving the sort of support you're looking for... without that, Sun's own QA team may never run into them, so they may never get fixed. Sun (or any other company) can't test every combination of hardware and software out there, so to some extent our users will always be part of the QA team, especially for the very first release-- that's part of the reason the OpenSolaris community exists. Of course we try to catch and fix as many such issues as we can through our public preview releases, but it's an unfortunate inevitability that we won't catch them all. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I think it may be kind of unfair to blame Sun for support... there are a huge variety of hardware configurations out there. I have 4 computers, 2 installed fine with Solaris, 2 did not. One of them is older, one is not too old. I think it really depends on the hardware you have, if it's either too old or maybe has some components that don't play nice, it may just not work. - Original Message From: Mark Kaiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:49:00 AM Subject: [osol-discuss] I give up. I installed OpenSolaris on my ThinkPad a couple of weeks ago, and I have never been able to get it to work. The wpi0 and e1000g drivers just dont work. I have posted on these forums and on usenet and received some suggestions. I have tried every possible combination of wired and wireless internet. WPA, WEP and no encryption. Let the cable modem reset to a new MAC address. Enable NWAM. Disable NWAM. Endless restarting NWAM. Endless wificonfig connect commands. NOTHING WORKS. I just have to conclude that OpenSolaris isn't ready for prime time and wait for the next release. In contrast, I put SLED 10 on the same ThinkPad and it works fine. Full connectivity. I really want to use Solaris and I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Sun could do a better job supporting people who want to use and enjoy their OS. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Mark Kaiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed OpenSolaris on my ThinkPad a couple of weeks ago, and I have never been able to get it to work. The wpi0 and e1000g drivers just dont work. I have posted on these forums and on usenet and received some suggestions. I have tried every possible combination of wired and wireless internet. WPA, WEP and no encryption. Let the cable modem reset to a new MAC address. Enable NWAM. Disable NWAM. Endless restarting NWAM. Endless wificonfig connect commands. NOTHING WORKS. I just have to conclude that OpenSolaris isn't ready for prime time and wait for the next release. In contrast, I put SLED 10 on the same ThinkPad and it works fine. Full connectivity. I really want to use Solaris and I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Sun could do a better job supporting people who want to use and enjoy their OS. My laptop(SONY sz-330p) has wpi0, and it works fine on OpenSolaris 200805. Yes, default NWAM seems not to work properly, but physical:default service for network really works on my side, with WEP. You know, the wireless configuration is not easy for the newbie(sorry if you are not), but actually it works! Please let me know if I can do any help with you, :-) Thanks, -Aubrey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I would be happy to submit bug reports as Calum suggested above. I'm not one of those people who just want to complain - I'd like to help Sun improve the product so I can actually use it. Is there a URL for bug reports? If you can suggest anything that would get wireless or wired networking to work beyond what I've already tried, I'll give it a go. I am actually looking for a Solaris consultant in my town. I will pay some money to someone with expertise who might be able to help. I am a total newb but I've learned a bit about Solaris already. Its a nice contrast to OS X, where terminal commands are not necessary. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
2008/6/5 Mark Kaiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be happy to submit bug reports as Calum suggested above. I'm not one of those people who just want to complain - I'd like to help Sun improve the product so I can actually use it. Is there a URL for bug reports? http://defect.opensolaris.org/ ...for OpenSolaris 2008.05, etc. http://bugs.opensolaris.org/ ...for Solaris Express editions. -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Mark Kaiman writes: I would be happy to submit bug reports as Calum suggested above. I'm not one of those people who just want to complain - I'd like to help Sun improve the product so I can actually use it. Is there a URL for bug reports? For the OpenSolaris distribution itself, use bugzilla: http://defect.opensolaris.org/ For things in SXCE, use the bugster database interface: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/ If you can suggest anything that would get wireless or wired networking to work beyond what I've already tried, I'll give it a go. I am actually looking for a Solaris consultant in my town. I will pay some money to someone with expertise who might be able to help. I am a total newb but I've learned a bit about Solaris already. Its a nice contrast to OS X, where terminal commands are not necessary. I'm surprised that your e1000g driver doesn't work. If nothing else, a simple interface like that ought to function. One known problem with e1000g is that the new FMA support can cause it to erroneously report itself as faulty, resulting in failures. If fmadm faulty shows a Critical error, then this problem has hit you. The workaround is to plumb the interface with the undocumented DLPI_DEVONLY environment variable set. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Hi Mark, which ThinkPad? wpi0 could mean T60 or R60, both I know and both work well for me and my friend. Could we go off this list and discuss it directly, please? Best regards, Milan Mark Kaiman píše v Čt 05. 06. 2008 v 06:49 -0700: I installed OpenSolaris on my ThinkPad a couple of weeks ago, and I have never been able to get it to work. The wpi0 and e1000g drivers just dont work. I have posted on these forums and on usenet and received some suggestions. I have tried every possible combination of wired and wireless internet. WPA, WEP and no encryption. Let the cable modem reset to a new MAC address. Enable NWAM. Disable NWAM. Endless restarting NWAM. Endless wificonfig connect commands. NOTHING WORKS. I just have to conclude that OpenSolaris isn't ready for prime time and wait for the next release. In contrast, I put SLED 10 on the same ThinkPad and it works fine. Full connectivity. I really want to use Solaris and I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Sun could do a better job supporting people who want to use and enjoy their OS. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I installed OpenSolaris on my ThinkPad a couple of weeks ago, and I have never been able to get it to work. The wpi0 and e1000g drivers just dont work. I have posted on these forums and on usenet and received some suggestions. I have tried every possible combination of wired and wireless internet. WPA, WEP and no encryption. Let the cable modem reset to a new MAC address. Enable NWAM. Disable NWAM. Endless restarting NWAM. Endless wificonfig connect commands. NOTHING WORKS. I just have to conclude that OpenSolaris isn't ready for prime time and wait for the next release. In contrast, I put SLED 10 on the same ThinkPad and it works fine. Full connectivity. I really want to use Solaris and I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Sun could do a better job supporting people who want to use and enjoy their OS. Thanks for the comment. Once you spend some time with OpenSolaris 2008.05, even though this is only a first iteration, you will really enjoy it. But we definitely need wake-up calls like this. My whole-hearted thanks! Re the e1000g NIC problem, I have posted a work around: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=61343tstart=50 This problem is so serious, I am really puzzled why nobody else is paying attention. Regarding wifi, I don't really use built-in card anymore. Rather, I am using the AirLink101 AWLC4130 PCMCIA wifi card on various notebooks. Please see some of the info that I posted at the Indiana forum: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=61332tstart=0 It actually works quite well. If you have problem with the built-in wpi0, perhaps you could follow the steps that I described in that thread (i.e., re-installing the wpi0 driver). Thanks again for taking time to post your frustrations. Please let us know if and when you make any progress. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
W. Wayne Liauh writes: Re the e1000g NIC problem, I have posted a work around: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=61343tstart=50 This problem is so serious, I am really puzzled why nobody else is paying attention. What does fmadm faulty say when the problem occurs? One reason nobody for paying attention could be that it's an already-known problem. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I too never got wpi0 to work stably but on a T61p in any mode, wep, wpa, or neither the two. It'll connect and work for a bit, then either it'll drop the connection over and over or the data rate will be all over the place down to a few bytes a second even when the laptop is a few feet away from the access point. In any case, it's unstable and unusable. I was never sure where to file bugs; so I just posted to bugs forum in hopes that someone from Sun would file the bug and get it fixed at some point. From the responses, it seems that other people have seen the same behavior. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised that your e1000g driver doesn't work. If nothing else, a simple interface like that ought to function. I heard about this problem on a small number of think pads I no longe rremember whether this was a problem with the bios or with the chip revision. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
I would be happy to submit bug reports as Calum suggested above. I'm not one of those people who just want to complain - I'd like to help Sun improve the product so I can actually use it. Is there a URL for bug reports? If you can suggest anything that would get wireless or wired networking to work beyond what I've already tried, I'll give it a go. I am actually looking for a Solaris consultant in my town. I will pay some money to someone with expertise who might be able to help. I am a total newb but I've learned a bit about Solaris already. Its a nice contrast to OS X, where terminal commands are not necessary. ObDisclaimer 1: I _do_not_ work for Sun! Having said that, if you actually have $$ to spend, I gather that there's support contracts available for OpenSolaris, at two different levels; see http://www.sun.com/service/opensolaris/index.jsp (click on either Get It Now button for the price, then back up again unless you know you wish to proceed) While I haven't actually investigated, I gather that's for the OpenSolaris 2008.05 and successors, _not_ for SXCE (and also not for Solaris 10, although I would certainly expect you could get a support contract for that too, at some other link on Sun's web site, the location of which I leave as an exercise to the reader, since I don't work for Sun!). Now, that's not the same as a consultant actually being there in person and walking you through the steps (or taking care of getting it so it works for you), but it's certainly one more option (and if you're sure you'd stick with it for a full year, not a bad deal, IMO). (note: the following is for the general audience at least as much as for the OP) Now, what do I think that _really_ buys you? Any purchase is in effect a contract, paying for goods or services as described by the seller, perhaps modified by any applicable laws about implicit terms and the like. It obligates the seller to make a good-faith effort to deliver on what they offered. By contrast, you may well get enough assistance here or elsewhere for free, possibly because Sun employees (and others!) want to improve OpenSolaris, or to encourage the community to grow, or sometimes simply if it looks like an interesting challenge. However, nobody is _obligated_ to provide free support - they can't be (even if they could afford it, and _nobody_ can afford an open-ended obligation), there's no contract. (Incidentally, paying Sun, and quite possibly paying a community member that would also be qualified (in your judgement) as a consultant, might well help maintain the availability of future support, or result in improvements to OpenSolaris, or both; the latter might also happen with unpaid support. But IMO that's only a motivation if you're in it for the long run.) Your second post suggests you understand the difference between paid and unpaid support, correcting the impression I'd mistakenly had of the tone of your first. I do understand frustration though, and I too would prefer to avoid it; but absent some sort of contract/commitment, I'd hesitate to _expect_ anyone to mitigate my frustration, so IMO it does help to ask with that mindset, as well as with lots of specifics (exact text of error messages, details of hardware, software version, problem, sequence of events, etc; just describe, don't interpret unless you're actually collaborating on a bug fix yourself). ObDisclaimer 2: I'm not a lawyer, and I suspect they'd describe the nature of a contract far more correctly, both in general and especially as to any specific circumstances. ObDisclaimer 3: I'm not a paid consultant myself either, nor do I presently have any working x86 hardware, let alone hardware like yours; so there's not much I could do other than look at code even if I wanted to (which I wouldn't rule out if I had more time and already had the right hardware to replicate the problem, not just take abstract (somewhat) educated guesses). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Hi Mark, I am encountering an e1000g error on Nevada snv_87. I am not sure whether it is the same as you stated. The fault message is: SUNW-MSG-ID: PCIEX-8000-0A, TYPE: Fault, VER: 1, SEVERITY: Critical EVENT-TIME: Wed Jun 4 20:09:18 CST 2008 PLATFORM: To Be Filled By O.E.M., CSN: To Be Filled By O.E.M., HOSTNAME: solaris SOURCE: eft, REV: 1.16 EVENT-ID: 61eb4b03-9def-635d-ba3d-ef5ac0401db8 DESC: A problem was detected for a PCIEX device. Refer to http://sun.com/msg/PCIEX-8000-0A for more information. AUTO-RESPONSE: One or more device instances may be disabled IMPACT: Loss of services provided by the device instances associated with this fault REC-ACTION: Schedule a repair procedure to replace the affected device. Use fmdump -v -u EVENT_ID to identify the device or contact Sun for support. SUNW-MSG-ID: PCIEX-8000-0A, TYPE: Fault, VER: 1, SEVERITY: Critical EVENT-TIME: Wed Jun 4 20:10:17 CST 2008 PLATFORM: To Be Filled By O.E.M., CSN: To Be Filled By O.E.M., HOSTNAME: solaris SOURCE: eft, REV: 1.16 EVENT-ID: b75b3279-ec5e-6c1a-8cec-f679bc4dc4f0 DESC: A problem was detected for a PCIEX device. Refer to http://sun.com/msg/PCIEX-8000-0A for more information. AUTO-RESPONSE: One or more device instances may be disabled IMPACT: Loss of services provided by the device instances associated with this fault REC-ACTION: Schedule a repair procedure to replace the affected device. Use fmdump -v -u EVENT_ID to identify the device or contact Sun for support. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:24 AM, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Kaiman writes: I would be happy to submit bug reports as Calum suggested above. I'm not one of those people who just want to complain - I'd like to help Sun improve the product so I can actually use it. Is there a URL for bug reports? For the OpenSolaris distribution itself, use bugzilla: http://defect.opensolaris.org/ For things in SXCE, use the bugster database interface: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/ If you can suggest anything that would get wireless or wired networking to work beyond what I've already tried, I'll give it a go. I am actually looking for a Solaris consultant in my town. I will pay some money to someone with expertise who might be able to help. I am a total newb but I've learned a bit about Solaris already. Its a nice contrast to OS X, where terminal commands are not necessary. I'm surprised that your e1000g driver doesn't work. If nothing else, a simple interface like that ought to function. One known problem with e1000g is that the new FMA support can cause it to erroneously report itself as faulty, resulting in failures. If fmadm faulty shows a Critical error, then this problem has hit you. The workaround is to plumb the interface with the undocumented DLPI_DEVONLY environment variable set. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I give up.
Further to Shawns email. I'm not sure of your experience in filing bugs so don't be offended if you are fine doing it yourself. If you need a hand feel welcome to send me an email (che at opensolaris dot org) and I'll help you file bugs or RFE's for your issues. I understand your frustration, hardware support is hit and miss for any OS, even Windows, where the vendor doesn't control the hardware platform. We've all been in your shoes and are more than happy to help where possible. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
