Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD of 10.3

2007-09-30 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Basil Chupin wrote:
 Can someone please tell me when the DVD of GM10.3 will be made
 available? (GM on the other media is now already available.)

 Cheers.

October 4'th

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Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD of 10.3

2007-09-30 Thread Basil Chupin

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:
  

Can someone please tell me when the DVD of GM10.3 will be made
available? (GM on the other media is now already available.)

Cheers.



October 4'th


Thank you.

A long time to wait considering that it was already sent off to the 
printer (or so I understood from a message I read in this forum a day 
or so ago).


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] Upgrade from RC2 to final

2007-09-30 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
El Domingo, 30 de Septiembre de 2007 00:49:25 Hans Witvliet escribió:

 I presume that the mentioned RC2 is an internal release?

There aren't public iso's for RC2, but you can update to it via factory

 on RC1 i saw that perl-DBD-mysql is not included any more
 As we use mysql a lot from perl-scripts, its an unpleasent surprize.
 Will this package be available?

I had no problems installing it yesterday, from factory too.

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[opensuse-factory] From factory to 10.3

2007-09-30 Thread Miquel A. Noguera
Hi, all.

As 32bit Factory is actually working so fine for me, I'm thinking about to 
turn it my new production server.

Could be right enough to switch to stable on-line repos when available or do 
you recommend me a 10.3 clean install instead?

Thanks.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD of 10.3

2007-09-30 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 14:18 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
 Can someone please tell me when the DVD of GM10.3 will be made 
 available? (GM on the other media is now already available.)
 
 Cheers.
 

http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/10.3

Ken

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Office Booking Keeping Ledger for Linux

2007-09-30 Thread Clayton
 Linux Canada has a pretty powerful open source package Called Quasar
 for business accounting and it also has a pretty slick POS component
 as well.  It's funded by purchased support contracts like most open
 source software companies do.

 http://www.linuxcanada.com/index.shtml

H and now that I look at it again... it's not exactly working all
that well.  Last time I installed it was with SUSE9.3... which
coincidently is also that last build the company has made. :-(  You
can install it in 10.2, but... it takes some tinkering or installing
from source.

H... that's a shame.  It is quite a nice application.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Office Booking Keeping Ledger for Linux

2007-09-30 Thread Hubert Figuiere

On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 17:36 +0200, Clayton wrote:
  Linux Canada has a pretty powerful open source package Called Quasar
  for business accounting and it also has a pretty slick POS component
  as well.  It's funded by purchased support contracts like most open
  source software companies do.
 
  http://www.linuxcanada.com/index.shtml
 
 H and now that I look at it again... it's not exactly working all
 that well.  Last time I installed it was with SUSE9.3... which
 coincidently is also that last build the company has made. :-(  You
 can install it in 10.2, but... it takes some tinkering or installing
 from source.

Maybe someone should add it to the build-service :-)


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[opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-09-30 Thread Sebastian Furdal
I have download delta iso of RC1_GM 10.3 from
http://suse.inode.at/opensuse/distribution/10.3/iso/delta/openSUSE-10.3-RC1_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso

and then...


# applydeltaiso /dev/sr0 \
openSUSE-10.3-RC1_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso \
openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso

reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done
indata read 8192 bytes failed


Wat's going on?


# ls -l openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2648085 IX 30 20:00 openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso



on google i have found only this:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2005-09/0372.html - NOTHING
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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-09-30 Thread Guillermo Ballester Valor
Hi,

Is final 10.3 GM already syncing the mirrors?!  8 -) 

It seems we will start the download festival before than expected. ;-)


El Domingo 30 Septiembre 2007, Sebastian Furdal escribió:
 I have download delta iso of RC1_GM 10.3 from
 http://suse.inode.at/opensuse/distribution/10.3/iso/delta/openSUSE-10.3-RC1
_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso

 and then...


 # applydeltaiso /dev/sr0 \
 openSUSE-10.3-RC1_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso \
 openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso

 reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done
 indata read 8192 bytes failed


 Wat's going on?

May be an iso image still no synced?. 

Guillermo



 # ls -l openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2648085 IX 30 20:00 openSUSE-10.3-GM-DVD-i386.iso



 on google i have found only this:
 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2005-09/0372.html - NOTHING
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics

2007-09-30 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

on Donnerstag, 27. September 2007, Francis Giannaros wrote:
[Bug statistics]

I have another interesting statistics: bugs per component, compared with 
the releases before. First the raw data, see below for comments.

+---+
|  |SUSE |SUSE |openSUSE|openSUSE|openSUSE| |
|  |LINUX|Linux|10.2|10.3|11.0|Total|
|  |10.0 |10.1 |||| |
|--+-+-++++-|
|Apache|.|.|   .|   7|   .|7|
|  AppArmor|   69|   77|   46   |   81   |   .|  273| 1)
|  AutoYaST|   37|   55|   35   |   20   |   1|  148|
|Basesystem|   698   |   787   |  760   |  766   |   10   | 3021|
|Commercial|   16|   25|   14   |   11   |   .|   66|
|   ConsoleApps|   131   |.|   .|   .|   .|  131|
|   Development|   133   |   187   |  144   |  114   |   3|  581|
| Documentation|   31|   43|   31   |   40   |   1|  146|
| Evolution|   62|   99|   70   |   92   |   8|  331|
|   Firefox|   106   |   92|  107   |   54   |   1|  360|
| GNOME|   412   |   371   |  459   |  733   |   26   | 2001| 2)
| GNOME - Admin|.|2|   2|   16   |   .|   20|
| GNOME - Platform  .|   11|   13   |   22   |   3|   49|
|   Hotplug|   99|   69|   42   |   39   |   .|  249|
|  ISDN|   12|8|   2|   1|   .|   23|
|  Installation|   485   |   815   |  707   |  812   |   15   | 2834|
|  Java|   36|   39|   29   |   47   |   1|  152|
|   KDE|   547   |   607   |  762   |  415   |   20   | 2351| 3)
|Kernel|   565   |   504   |  421   |  287   |   1| 1778| 4)
|   Live Medium|.|.|   .|   16   |   .|   16|
|   Maintenance|.|8|   23   |   4|   .|   35|
|Mobile Devices|   133   |   103   |  157   |  165   |   5|  563|
|  Mono|   46|   10|   17   |   19   |   .|   92|
|   Network|   335   |   469   |  324   |  215   |   9| 1352| 5)
|OpenOffice.org|   37|   59|   32   |   41   |   1|  170|
| Other|   412   |   555   |  514   |  425   |   3| 1909|
|Selections|   31|   29|   .|   .|   .|   60|
|  Patterns|.|.|   93   |  116   |   2|  211|
|  Printing|   65|   54|  102   |   37   |   .|  258|
| Release Notes|   13|   31|   25   |   12   |   .|   81|
|  SaX2|   126   |   135   |  108   |   97   |   .|  466|
|  Security|   55|   49|   50   |   27   |   .|  181|
| Sound|   159   |   79|   86   |   50   |   2|  376|
|  Translations|   40|   85|   94   |   89   |   1|  309|
|Update Problems   52|   156   |  111   |   96   |   3|  418|
| Usability|   33|   29|   30   |   33   |   .|  125|
| X.Org|   126   |   214   |  229   |  196   |   1|  766|
| X11 3rd Party|   41|   47|   45   |   .|   .|  133|
|X11 3rd Party Driver|.|   .|   25   |   .|   25|
|X11 Applications  159   |   107   |  117   |  129   |   1|  513|
|   Xen|   23|   70|   59   |   49   |   .|  201|
|  Xfce|.|.|   .|   1|   .|1|
|   Xgl|.|   74|   63   |   40   |   .|  177|
|   YOU|   42|   10|   .|   .|   .|   52|
| YaST2|   862   |  1241   |  834   |  965   |   28   | 3930| 6)
|  Zenworks|.|   355   |  155   |   8|   .|  518|
|   libzypp|.|   220   |  216   |  352   |   18   |  806| 7)
|--+-+-++++-|
|Total |  6229   |  7980   |  7128  |  6764  |  164   |28265|
+---+

1) increased bug number in 10.3 probably caused by the AppArmor version 
   upgrade and call for testing

2) I have no real idea why the Gnome bug count increased that much. My 
   guess (as a KDE user) is a) the move to /usr/bin and b) the major 
   version upgrade caused some problems.

3) Having less KDE bugs looks promising. However we'll have to wait for 
   the number of KDE4 bugs in 11.0 ;-)

4) less kernel bugs in every release seems to be a positive trend and 
   shows that the kernel developers are doing a good job.

5) basically the same as 4), this time for network related bugs

6) and 7) Did YaST and libzypp really have more bugs in 10.3 than in
  10.2? Or was there just more testing?

Also keep in mind that the bugs for = 10.2 include some bugs found in 
the final release. Bug numbers for 10.3 will increase when 10.3 final 
is released, but I hope there aren't too 

Re: [opensuse-factory] Office Booking Keeping Ledger for Linux

2007-09-30 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/9/30, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  In my passed life I owned a business where I used filepro+ or profile+
  It was highly customizable.  I am looking for a current Office Ledger
  (double entry) software package for Linux.  Does anyone know of one that
  interfaces with sql light, mysql or postgres?  It will used for US tax
  records

 Linux Canada has a pretty powerful open source package Called Quasar
 for business accounting and it also has a pretty slick POS component
 as well.  It's funded by purchased support contracts like most open
 source software companies do.

 http://www.linuxcanada.com/index.shtml

 I poked through the FAQ, and they state they have a US version.

 I haven't used it in a real business setup, but when I last tried it
 out, I have to say I was quite impressed with it.

 Be sure to let Linux Canada know if you like it.  The more feedback
 these companies get, the more likely they are to continue making
 serious Linux applications.

 C.

Too bad, checked the website and seems pretty much dead The last
annouced release is from 2005

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics

2007-09-30 Thread Donn Washburn

Christian Boltz wrote:


Also keep in mind that the bugs for = 10.2 include some bugs found in 
the final release. Bug numbers for 10.3 will increase when 10.3 final 
is released, but I hope there aren't too many bugs we overlooked in the 
beta phase.



100% of the votes say openSUSE 10.3 is an awesome release 8).



Regards,

Christian Boltz


I will add two 10.3

10.3 Alpha 5 has a problem spotting USR ttyS4/COM port modem
10.3 Beta 2 (this machine) Yast2 will not correctly save a file 
describing the printer paper size (letter).  Every time I tell anything 
to print I need to run Yast2.HardwarePrinters all the way passed Edit 
and close so that it will print.  I then hear the printer come to life. 
 Reboot and it is lost.



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Some 10.3 Bug Statistics

2007-09-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 September 2007 01:58:24 pm Christian Boltz wrote:
 Hello,

 on Donnerstag, 27. September 2007, Francis Giannaros wrote:
 [Bug statistics]

 I have another interesting statistics: bugs per component, compared with
 the releases before. First the raw data, see below for comments.

 +---+

 |  |SUSE |SUSE |openSUSE|openSUSE|openSUSE| |
 |  |LINUX|Linux|10.2|10.3|11.0|Total|
 |  |10.0 |10.1 |||| |
 |
 |--+-+-++++-|

 | GNOME|   412   |   371   |  459   |  733   |   26   | 2001| 2)
 | GNOME - Admin|.|2|   2|   16   |   .|   20|
 | GNOME - Platform  .|   11|   13   |   22   |   3|   49|
...
 |   KDE|   547   |   607   |  762   |  415   |   20   | 2351| 3)
...
 2) I have no real idea why the Gnome bug count increased that much. My
guess (as a KDE user) is a) the move to /usr/bin and b) the major
version upgrade caused some problems.
...

GNOME leads for now, but will catch up with KDE4 ;-) 

For now I know only 1 bug that comes in mind ... 
... it doesn't run at all :-D


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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 18:53 -, Guillermo Ballester Valor wrote:


Is final 10.3 GM already syncing the mirrors?!  8 -)


No, he is talking about the _delta_ iso, not the final iso.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD of 10.3

2007-09-30 Thread Basil Chupin

Francis Giannaros wrote:

On 9/30/07, Basil Chupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Erik Jakobsen wrote:


Basil Chupin wrote:

  

Can someone please tell me when the DVD of GM10.3 will be made
available? (GM on the other media is now already available.)

Cheers.




October 4'th
  

Thank you.

A long time to wait considering that it was already sent off to the
printer (or so I understood from a message I read in this forum a day
or so ago).



Well, the other images shouldn't be available to you either, but some
mirrors are bad at setting the right permissions (again), so please
don't advertise this.


I Know N-O-T-H-I-N-G! :-)



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Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed

2007-09-30 Thread Guillermo Ballester Valor
El Lunes 01 Octubre 2007, Carlos E. R. escribió:
 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 18:53 -, Guillermo Ballester Valor wrote:
  Is final 10.3 GM already syncing the mirrors?!  8 -)

 No, he is talking about the _delta_ iso, not the final iso.

Check this link

http://suse.inode.at/opensuse/distribution/10.3/iso/dvd/

;-)

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread joe
primm wrote:


 In fact I could produce a similar page using php and just reformat the xp box 
 so it's not such a problem.


That's the spirit - even if they keep using it for other tasks, it would be
good practice to move that function to linux.


 It's just that the other girls don't like the 
 look of openoffice. So I have to keep that machine for the time being.


Ah, too bad. Have they seen oOo 2.3? In any case, I would think that the cost
savings and virus resistance would justify oOo.


Another option is that they could run ms office in linux, under codeweavers
wine or win4lin or similar.

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread primm
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:23, Richard Creighton wrote:
 primm wrote:
  Anyway, could I use my feminine charm, invite you back for coffee and ask
  you guru guys where /srv/www/htdocs is on xp? I honestly dare not start
  it as a new thread. Theo would throw me off the list!
 
  Love from Lynn x x x

 Don't worry about starting new threads Lynn.   It has been a long time
 since I've played on XP but I don't think that it has a directory like
 that.   The directory sounds like part of the structure for the web
 server on the standard installation of Apache2.   What is it you are
 trying to do? ... and if you are using Linux, what is the relevance to
 XP?   I am confused and I'm not a guru, just an old codger that has
 played with Linux for enough years to be intimidated by all the changes

 :)   If a new thread is in order, NO ONE will care if you start a new

 one and it may help you get the help you need because it could attract
 the eye of a real guru that has the answer, one that might otherwise
 skip the message because the subject didn't attract their attention.

 Richard

One of the boxes on the lan 10.0.0.5 is running xp, the version where you need 
an admin password to see the disk. It's that box that is NAT'd on 80 which I 
can see because the router didn't need a password. There is an asp script 
serving a single page. I can see the html it produces but can't see the 
script as I don't have the password. I can't go into that here.

In fact I could produce a similar page using php and just reformat the xp box 
so it's not such a problem. It's just that the other girls don't like the 
look of openoffice. So I have to keep that machine for the time being.

Lynn x
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
joe wrote:
 primm wrote:

   
 It's just that the other girls don't like the 
 look of openoffice. So I have to keep that machine for the time being.
 


 Ah, too bad. Have they seen oOo 2.3? In any case, I would think that the cost
 savings and virus resistance would justify oOo.


 Another option is that they could run ms office in linux, under codeweavers
 wine or win4lin or similar.

 Joe
   
It is likely that they are using only Word and Excel?   I believe both
of those work well under Codeweavers emulators.   In which case your
other associates would actually run Linux except when editing a *.doc or
*.xls file in which case a native copy of Word or Excel would kick in
and seamlessly allow them to use that program while you and the others
use Open Office which is compatable with the documents they produce.  
Now, if you have some reason to *need* an XP machine (which is really a
single user machine with multiple accounts on it, meaning multiple
users, one at a time) a great solution is VMWare, which is a machine
emulator that runs under Linux that pretends to be a computer that can
run almost any guest OS, including XP...PERFECTLY.   VMWare will run XP,
2000, Vista, other versions of Linux or even DOS ... all at the same
time and on the same machine, provided of course you have enough memory
and horsepower available, but I routinely run 10.2 SuSE and load up XP
for those very few occasions where there is not yet an available
substitute written to run under Linux.   In that case, and without
rebooting, I just launch VMWare which gives me a virtual machine running
real XP which then can run whatever XP would normally run...including
all of XP's viruses :) (of course, Linux keeps them contained inside of
the virtual machine and won't let them contaminate the rest of the
environment).   The virtual machine can communicate with the external
Linux network with Samba, FTP, or SSH if you wish.   The virtual machine
is available to any of your other office mates from their machines
without having to get up and go over to the XP machine to use it.  
There is a free version available that allows one user at a time to
access the virtual machine (just like a real hardware machine), but for
a nominal charge, you can have multiple users all accessing the virtual
machine simultaneously which is unlike the real XP which costs big bucks
for such a license.   So, Lynn, you have a lot of options and Linux
forms the basis even if for some jobs you still need or want XP.  
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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread G T Smith
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joe wrote:
 James Knott wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:
 What a world Microsoft has created!   It makes honest people *think*
 they are thieves

 Lynn, STOP feeling guilty about USING Linux and certainly stop feeling
 guilty about asking for help, whether or not you eventually make a
 profit from the information is irrelevant.  

 Richard
   
 A few years ago, someone tried telling me it was illegal to buy a
 computer without Windows loaded.
 
 
 Wow, so this is the sort of nonsense that passes as common sense? No wonder
 it's taking so long to put a dent in mickeysoft's market share.
 
 Joe

It gets worse, try out this article for a bit of a laugh... :-)

Poor chap found store would not repair hinge of laptop 'cos he had put
linux on it !?

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/09/17/pc_world_linux_frustration/

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Re: [opensuse] Laptop embedded Webcam

2007-09-30 Thread John Layt
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Andrés Cosa wrote:
 uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 2 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26).
 uvcvideo: Failed to initialize the device (-5).

There's the root of the problem, the camera is not initialising, so no app 
will work.  You need to visit the uvc driver website 
http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ to check their support documentation or e-mail 
their support list.

John.

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread primm
On Sunday 30 September 2007 08:16, joe wrote:
 primm wrote:
  In fact I could produce a similar page using php and just reformat the xp
  box so it's not such a problem.

 That's the spirit - even if they keep using it for other tasks, it would be
 good practice to move that function to linux.

  It's just that the other girls don't like the
  look of openoffice. So I have to keep that machine for the time being.

 Ah, too bad. Have they seen oOo 2.3? In any case, I would think that the
 cost savings and virus resistance would justify oOo.


 Another option is that they could run ms office in linux, under codeweavers
 wine or win4lin or similar.

 Joe

I don't think they paid for the xp. They stole it like everyone else.  I'm not 
that concerned that microsoft gets ripped off in this way. No one I know has 
a licence for the pro version. They bought a new box with home edition and 
magically it's pro without spending a euro after 'a mate of mine' popped in 
with a dvd. The same with office. Whatever that means. I don't think it's 
possible to steal opensuse is it? That's why I'm trying to make the outfit 
legally comfortable. Throwing openoffice at office users is just not 
possible. They simply cannot change. Filesave as isn't in the same place for 
a start. How can you use a system where Filesave as isn't in the same place? 
I mean it's just not possible is it. And as for word count. Just forget it. 
In openoffice you just can't do it. it's impossible to do a word count in 
open office. You have to click three times for gad sake. All they do it type 
and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents another 
weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.

But thanks for the encouragement. I think at last I'm being understood. Fancy 
a beer anyone?

Love L x
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Re: [opensuse] Laptop embedded Webcam

2007-09-30 Thread John Layt
On Sunday 30 September 2007, John Layt wrote:
 On Sunday 30 September 2007, Andrés Cosa wrote:
  uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 2 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26).
  uvcvideo: Failed to initialize the device (-5).

 There's the root of the problem, the camera is not initialising, so no app
 will work.  You need to visit the uvc driver website
 http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ to check their support documentation or e-mail
 their support list.

 John.

P.S. What version suse and what kernel?  The more recent the kernel, the more 
recent your driver and the more likely it is to work...

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread primm
On Sunday 30 September 2007 10:10, G T Smith wrote:
 joe wrote:
  James Knott wrote:
  Richard Creighton wrote:
  What a world Microsoft has created!   It makes honest people *think*
  they are thieves
 
  Lynn, STOP feeling guilty about USING Linux and certainly stop feeling
  guilty about asking for help, whether or not you eventually make a
  profit from the information is irrelevant.
 
  Richard
 
  A few years ago, someone tried telling me it was illegal to buy a
  computer without Windows loaded.
 
  Wow, so this is the sort of nonsense that passes as common sense? No
  wonder it's taking so long to put a dent in mickeysoft's market share.
 
  Joe

It's true. It is impossible to get people to change from using office with xp. 
They will not use vista either. Yeah. read it again.  Somehow microsoft has 
instilled in them that this is the only way to write a document and send 
e-mails. They will _not_ change to Linux or vista. windows 98 is just fine 
however. They hate those superb cast iron IBM keyboards that we all love. 
They want proper plastic keyboards and a mouse with a wire. The menus are not 
in the right place in openoffice anyway they will tell you. They feel safe 
with xp and office. In the real world thats what there is. I'm dealing with 
housewives who do word processing on a part time basis. They simply cannot 
change. To them, Openoffice and Linux is a joke.

Lynn x
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Re: [opensuse] Gutenprint - OpenSuSE 10.0 - where are the PPD files?

2007-09-30 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/30/2007 12:27 PM, Steve Jacobs wrote:
 I've got OpenSuSE 10.0 installed to my desktop.

 I want to use my Olympus P10 photo printer on the PC.

 I installed Gutenprint 5.0.1, following the INSTALL  README files. 
Did you install the rpm package for your openSUSE 10.0?  i.e.
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/SL10.0/
I think you must have made mistakes with your package.
 It
 was written that Gutenprint includes PPD files for the printers it
 supports, and that they are usually found at
 /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint.
   
I have 10.2, but they are there in mine.
 I must be missing something ridiculously obvious here, but I'm stuck. Help?
   
Uninstall the self built package and install the rpm from above.

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Clayton
 tricks, wouldn't they?   Seems to me they should be given the
 opportunity sooner, rather than later, while you still have options.
 Once a real failure occurs, you lose data, have no time to learn new
 methods and 'where the right places' are for the menus and such becomes

I find the most successful is to sneak it up on them.  Start with
weaning them off of IE and onto Opera or Firefox.  Then slowly
introduce them to OpenOffice.  The OpenOffice thing is going well,
especially since Office2007 is so different, and OOo2.3 is so much
faster to load, and looks a lot like OfficeXP.  From there just find
X-platform apps for them to use and get used to.. then one day... they
will find themselves working in Linux :-)

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread G T Smith
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Richard Creighton wrote:
 primm wrote:
 It's true. It is impossible to get people to change from using office with 
 xp. 
 They will not use vista either. Yeah. read it again.  Somehow microsoft has 
 instilled in them that this is the only way to write a document and send 
 e-mails. They will _not_ change to Linux or vista. windows 98 is just fine 
 however. They hate those superb cast iron IBM keyboards that we all love. 
 They want proper plastic keyboards and a mouse with a wire. The menus are 
 not 
 in the right place in openoffice anyway they will tell you. They feel safe 
 with xp and office. In the real world thats what there is. I'm dealing with 
 housewives who do word processing on a part time basis. They simply cannot 
 change. To them, Openoffice and Linux is a joke.

 Lynn x
   
 Seein' as how M$ isn't supporting XP anymore, what would happen if you
 had a hardware failure and *had* to install the latest 'offering' from
 M$ on new hardware?   These housewives would be forced to learn new

snip
 Richard

Actually, M$ have recently announced that they are extending support for
XP, for some unknown reason people are not buying as many Vista copies
as M$  expected :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Friday 2007-09-28 at 21:17 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

 You guys know that the SUSE package of Thunderbird should pull in all
 installed myspell dictionaries by default to choose from?
 Yes, I know. I'm using the SUSE package of Thunderbird and it did not; 
 that's why I reported in the factory list, it is RC2.
 
 OK, it's the first time I hear of that bug. So it's not in Bugzilla most
 probably (or not in the right component).

I didn't report in bugzilla because I wanted comments first. And I didn't try
earlier because I couldn't install the beta till RC1, I'm affected by the 15
partition limit bug.


 What's the output of
 rpm -qa | grep myspell
 rpm -q --whatprovides myspell-dictionary
 ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
 running /usr/lib/thunderbird/add-plugins.sh as root
 
 ?

Here goes:

minas-morgul:~ # rpm -qa | grep myspell
myspell-american-20060207-13
myspell-british-20050526-85
myspell-spanish-20051029-83
minas-morgul:~ # rpm -q --whatprovides myspell-dictionary
myspell-american-20060207-13
myspell-british-20050526-85
myspell-spanish-20051029-83
minas-morgul:~ # ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
total 685
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2731 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.aff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 696138 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.dic
minas-morgul:~ #
minas-morgul:~ # /usr/lib/thunderbird/add-plugins.sh
minas-morgul:~ # ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
total 685
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2731 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.aff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 696138 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.dic
minas-morgul:~ #


So, I have the dictionary installed here instead:

/home/cer/.thunderbird/zcguwcwo.default/extensions/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/dictionaries

-rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 157221 2006-10-26 09:50 es-ES.aff
-rw-r--r-- 1 cer users 840320 2006-10-26 09:45 es-ES.dic
-rw-r--r-- 1 cer users   8479 2006-10-26 09:11 README-es-ES.txt



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Re: [opensuse] Laptop embedded Webcam

2007-09-30 Thread Andrés Cosa
I am running opensuse 10.3 with kernel 2.6.22.5-29-default. I'll check
your suggestions .

Thanks again

John Layt wrote:
 On Sunday 30 September 2007, John Layt wrote:
   
 On Sunday 30 September 2007, Andrés Cosa wrote:
 
 uvcvideo: Failed to query (1) UVC control 2 (unit 0) : -110 (exp. 26).
 uvcvideo: Failed to initialize the device (-5).
   
 There's the root of the problem, the camera is not initialising, so no app
 will work.  You need to visit the uvc driver website
 http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ to check their support documentation or e-mail
 their support list.

 John.
 

 P.S. What version suse and what kernel?  The more recent the kernel, the more 
 recent your driver and the more likely it is to work...

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
primm wrote:

 I don't think they paid for the xp. They stole it like everyone else.  I'm 
 not 
 that concerned that microsoft gets ripped off in this way. No one I know has 
 a licence for the pro version. They bought a new box with home edition and 
 magically it's pro without spending a euro after 'a mate of mine' popped in 
 with a dvd. The same with office. Whatever that means. 

Sounds familiar.

 I don't think it's 
 possible to steal opensuse is it? That's why I'm trying to make the outfit 
 legally comfortable. Throwing openoffice at office users is just not 
 possible. They simply cannot change. Filesave as isn't in the same place for 
 a start. How can you use a system where Filesave as isn't in the same place? 

X'-)

 I mean it's just not possible is it. And as for word count. Just forget it. 
 In openoffice you just can't do it. it's impossible to do a word count in 
 open office. You have to click three times for gad sake.

ROTFL!  X'-)


Now I know why people don't use OpenOffice! Thanks for the explanation X'-)

 All they do it type 
 and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents another 
 weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.

Correct.


 But thanks for the encouragement. I think at last I'm being understood. Fancy 
 a beer anyone?

Welcome!

 \__/
  \ º  /
   \   º  /
\/

Here, have one!

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
Ron Eggler wrote:

 Joe, Great, thank you. installed 1.2.11 now from given repo. :)
 Okay, then had to go thru the new conf file to find ghow I can enable 
 remote 
 administration via webbrowser.
 changes
 Location /
 added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
 Location /admin
 added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
 Location /admin/conf
 added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
 [save and exit]
 [restart /etc/init.d/cups]
 
 but I'm still not able to login to http://192.168.0.2:631;
 What went wrong here, what did I forget?
 Thanks lots for your help!

This one:
# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

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[opensuse] Update

2007-09-30 Thread Arno Weterings
After update, I can't see my mainmenu in the left bottomcorner of the
screen

gr Arno
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[opensuse] Who is listening on these ports?

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Output from netstat -tupln:

# netstat -ltupln
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State   
PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:49826   0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
-
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:139 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
3668/smbd
[snip]
tcp0  0 ::1:631 :::*LISTEN  
3195/cupsd
tcp0  0 ::1:25  :::*LISTEN  
3698/master
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:32769   0.0.0.0:*   
-
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*   
2867/dhcpcd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:69  0.0.0.0:*   
3390/xinetd
[snip]


What is listening on TCP:49826 and UDP:32769 ?  I checked with lsof -i -nP:

# lsof -i -nP
COMMAND   PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
dhcpcd   2867   root4u  IPv4   7854   UDP *:68
portmap  3047 nobody3u  IPv4   8277   UDP *:111
portmap  3047 nobody4u  IPv4   8278   TCP *:111 (LISTEN)
cupsd3195   root0u  IPv4   9333   TCP 127.0.0.1:631 (LISTEN)
cupsd3195   root2u  IPv6   9334   TCP [::1]:631 (LISTEN)
cupsd3195   root4u  IPv4   9572   UDP *:631
zmd  3329   root5u  IPv4   9195   TCP 127.0.0.1:2544 (LISTEN)
sshd 3364   root3u  IPv6   9187   TCP *:22 (LISTEN)
xinetd   3390   root5u  IPv4  10301   UDP *:69
ntpd 3588ntp   16u  IPv4  10051   UDP *:123
ntpd 3588ntp   17u  IPv6  10052   UDP *:123
ntpd 3588ntp   18u  IPv6  10053   UDP [fe80::20d:61ff:fe17:d8a0]:123
ntpd 3588ntp   19u  IPv6  10054   UDP [::1]:123
ntpd 3588ntp   20u  IPv4  10055   UDP 127.0.0.1:123
ntpd 3588ntp   21u  IPv4  10056   UDP 192.168.2.113:123
ntpd 3588ntp   22u  IPv4  10203   UDP 192.168.2.255:123
smbd 3668   root   18u  IPv4  10309   TCP *:445 (LISTEN)
smbd 3668   root   19u  IPv4  10310   TCP *:139 (LISTEN)
master   3698   root   11u  IPv4  10500   TCP 127.0.0.1:25 (LISTEN)
master   3698   root   12u  IPv6  10502   TCP [::1]:25 (LISTEN)
knode   12054per   15u  IPv4  58879   TCP 
192.168.2.113:33488-192.168.2.104:119 (ESTABLISHED)


I've tried a separate 'lsof', and I have also done a scan using rkhunter.  Any 
suggestions?


/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:59:10 am G T Smith wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:
  primm wrote:
  It's true. It is impossible to get people to change from using office
  with xp. They will not use vista either. Yeah. read it again.  Somehow
  microsoft has instilled in them that this is the only way to write a
  document and send e-mails. They will _not_ change to Linux or vista.
  windows 98 is just fine however. They hate those superb cast iron IBM
  keyboards that we all love. They want proper plastic keyboards and a
  mouse with a wire. The menus are not in the right place in openoffice
  anyway they will tell you. They feel safe with xp and office. In the
  real world thats what there is. I'm dealing with housewives who do word
  processing on a part time basis. They simply cannot change. To them,
  Openoffice and Linux is a joke.
 
  Lynn x
 
  Seein' as how M$ isn't supporting XP anymore, what would happen if you
  had a hardware failure and *had* to install the latest 'offering' from
  M$ on new hardware?   These housewives would be forced to learn new

 snip

  Richard

 Actually, M$ have recently announced that they are extending support for
 XP, for some unknown reason people are not buying as many Vista copies
 as M$  expected :-)

Few hundreds reasons per product.
Count is mostly 2 (Vista  MS Office) which comes out as one good computer 
upgrade (no monitor and accessories). 

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 telephone.
 My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton

 Actually, M$ have recently announced that they are extending support for
 XP, for some unknown reason people are not buying as many Vista copies
 as M$  expected :-)
 

 Few hundreds reasons per product.
 Count is mostly 2 (Vista  MS Office) which comes out as one good computer 
 upgrade (no monitor and accessories). 

   
Actually, from what I've seen in articles around, Vista wants
state-of-the-art equipment to run and much of the legacy equipment just
doesn't seem to want to run and a lot of people are balking at having to
buy new computers just to buy a new OS and it's new and improved bugs.  
One nice thing about Linuxso far... is that it historically allows
people to almost run on their old 'junk' machines and still do useful
work.   I hope this doesn't change any time soon even as it supports the
newer equipment, I hope the old boxes aren't forgotten.
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread James Tremblay
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 08:00 +0200, primm wrote:
snip
 
 One of the boxes on the lan 10.0.0.5 is running xp, the version where you 
 need 
 an admin password to see the disk. It's that box that is NAT'd on 80 which I 
 can see because the router didn't need a password. There is an asp script 
 serving a single page. I can see the html it produces but can't see the 
 script as I don't have the password. I can't go into that here.
 
 In fact I could produce a similar page using php and just reformat the xp box 
 so it's not such a problem. It's just that the other girls don't like the 
 look of openoffice. So I have to keep that machine for the time being.
 
 Lynn x
Lynn,
There is a way to reset the windows admin password. It is important that
you determine if the file system is encrypted. The easiest way to do
that is using a Linux live DVD, here is 10.2's
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/dvd/openSUSE-10.2-GM-LiveDVD.iso
and look through the file system usually auto-mounted on the desktop as
C or Windows,you should be able to find c:/inetpub/wwwroot if not
it could be encrypted or in a non-default location, my guess its not
because anyone using XP Pro to set up a web page is smart enough to be
dangerous but Anyway at http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/ is
an ISO containing a tool set to change the administrator password.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: legalities

2007-09-30 Thread James Knott
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 I fully aggree.

 But, as sad as it is, as a matter of fact, you cannot buy a new computer
  without vista anymore. There are exceptions and there are business
 machines that you still can order with XP, but in general, the new PC
 market is vista.

 In consequence, within a year or two we will be living in a mostly
 vista world, whether we like it or not.

   
Actually, there are many vendors who will sell without Windows or with
Linux installed.  For example, there's one company, located near my
home, that sells computers loaded with Linux or no OS, for less than the
same system with Windows.  There are also vendors that buy systems from
manufacturers and put Linux on.  And, we can't forget the local system
builders, who build custom systems, often without Windows.  Also, as I
mentioned in another note, refurbs are often available for low cost
and provided a good system to install Linux on.  If they come with
Windows, it'd likely be XP or 2000 and not Vista.

http://www.angelcomputer.com


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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread G T Smith
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Richard Creighton wrote:
 Actually, M$ have recently announced that they are extending
 support for XP, for some unknown reason people are not buying as
 many Vista copies as M$  expected :-)
 
 Few hundreds reasons per product. Count is mostly 2 (Vista  MS
 Office) which comes out as one good computer upgrade (no monitor
 and accessories).
 
 
 Actually, from what I've seen in articles around, Vista wants 
 state-of-the-art equipment to run and much of the legacy equipment
 just doesn't seem to want to run and a lot of people are balking at
 having to buy new computers just to buy a new OS and it's new and
 improved bugs. One nice thing about Linuxso far... is that it
 historically allows people to almost run on their old 'junk' machines
 and still do useful work.   I hope this doesn't change any time soon
 even as it supports the newer equipment, I hope the old boxes aren't
 forgotten.

There are quite a few organisations that have recently completed moving
from NT to W2K, or have not moved to XP because W2k provides the
functionality they need and seen no reason to change. What Vista
provides does not really fit a lot of commercial environments, and until
someone provides a commercial, must have, killer app that only runs on
Vista, M$ is going to find it difficult to persuade commercial clients
to adopt it.

The costs in retraining staff, new equipment deployment, and migrating
critical systems is causing some organisations to look very closely at
alternative strategies; in the main completely rebuilding the IT
infrastructure every 4 years or so does not make much sense to many (if
it aint broke why fix it), M$ may have shot themselves in the foot and
given desktop Linux in the enterprise an unintended boost at the same
time. If they push upgrading too hard they could find some large
organisations going elsewhere. On the other hand M$ may get wise and
commit to a stable user interface that does not radically change between
OS versions (my god! was that pig flying past :-) )

In the non-commercial world Vista really depends on the future of the
general purpose PC. Outside of more specialist niches such as power
gaming and computer hobbyists, and SOHO use; an increased use of minimum
maintenance and intervention consumer electronics products may begin to
become more important over time and general purpose PC sales may
stagnate or decline.

Most non-technical people are completely fed up with machines which do
not do what they want, when they want to do it, for reasons they do not
understand (whether they be MS, Mac or Linux based)... eventually they
will wise up and start voting with their wallets...

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 08:51 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:

 Actually, from what I've seen in articles around, Vista wants
 state-of-the-art equipment to run and much of the legacy equipment just
 doesn't seem to want to run and a lot of people are balking at having to
 buy new computers just to buy a new OS and it's new and improved bugs.  
 One nice thing about Linuxso far... is that it historically allows
 people to almost run on their old 'junk' machines and still do useful
 work.   I hope this doesn't change any time soon even as it supports the
 newer equipment, I hope the old boxes aren't forgotten.

That's not quite so now. For instance, the limit on the number of 
partitions has been decreased from 64 to 16 (less than). That's one of the 
consequence of progress in the linux field.

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 September 2007 07:51:20 am Richard Creighton wrote:
  Actually, M$ have recently announced that they are extending support for
  XP, for some unknown reason people are not buying as many Vista copies
  as M$  expected :-)
 
  Few hundreds reasons per product.
  Count is mostly 2 (Vista  MS Office) which comes out as one good
  computer upgrade (no monitor and accessories).

 Actually, from what I've seen in articles around, Vista wants
 state-of-the-art equipment to run and much of the legacy equipment just
 doesn't seem to want to run and a lot of people are balking at having to
 buy new computers just to buy a new OS and it's new and improved bugs.
 One nice thing about Linuxso far... is that it historically allows
 people to almost run on their old 'junk' machines and still do useful
 work.   I hope this doesn't change any time soon even as it supports the
 newer equipment, I hope the old boxes aren't forgotten.

'Junk machine' is for a quite some time relative denomination. 
Every machine is good in a store, but with software accessories like firewall, 
antivirus, antispam, and few other programs, that one adds at home, it is no 
more good. The malware scanners need more and more time to scan new bigger 
hard drives, which takes more and more CPU time. 

OS that doesn't require such add-ons is big advantage for computer users. 
More CPU cycles is left for usefull work, so 'junk machine' using other OS is 
good machine under Linux, just because there is no need to keep 'patch' 
programs running all the time. 

The antivirus etc, is not alone at fault for CPU being busy with basic OS 
tasks, instead to run user application. 

More device drivers are actually firmware, and they are running on main CPU. 
To ensure proper function of device on wide variety of hardware, they claim 
more resources on newer, faster computers than it is necessary for the task. 


The list is quite long.
 
Just created:
  http://en.opensuse.org/Why_to_use_openSUSE
welcome to expand it.

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Billie Walsh

On 09/30/2007 primm wrote:
I don't think they paid for the xp. They stole it like everyone else. 
 I'm not 
that concerned that microsoft gets ripped off in this way. No one I 
know has 
a licence for the pro version. They bought a new box with home 
edition and 
magically it's pro without spending a euro after 'a mate of mine' 
popped in 
with a dvd. The same with office. Whatever that means. I don't think 
it's 
possible to steal opensuse is it? That's why I'm trying to make the 
outfit 
legally comfortable. Throwing openoffice at office users is just not 
possible. They simply cannot change. Filesave as isn't in the same 
place for 
a start. How can you use a system where Filesave as isn't in the 
same place? 
I mean it's just not possible is it. And as for word count. Just 
forget it. 
In openoffice you just can't do it. it's impossible to do a word 
count in 
open office. You have to click three times for gad sake. All they do 
it type 
and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents 
another 
weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.


But thanks for the encouragement. I think at last I'm being 
understood. Fancy 
a beer anyone?


I'm not an office user per se, but I did a little checking and with OOo 
you can customize the menus. With just a smidgen of effort you could 
give those old fuddy-duddies an Office look-and-feel in the menus. As 
customizable as everything else in the Linux World is I was pretty sure 
it could be done.


I'm not much for beer, but a nice Bacardi Superior, or better yet a 
Bacardi Anejo, and Coke would be nice. Even a nice glass of wine, vin 
ordinaire not some of that hoity-toity stuff that tastes like lighter 
fluid, would be good.


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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Billie Walsh

On 09/30/2007 Richard Creighton wrote:

Seein' as how M$ isn't supporting XP anymore, what would happen if you
had a hardware failure and *had* to install the latest 'offering' from
M$ on new hardware?


M$ said they would support XP till 2010.

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Re: [opensuse] Who is listening on these ports?

2007-09-30 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 30 September 2007 14:22:47 Per Jessen wrote:
 Output from netstat -tupln:

 # netstat -ltupln
 Active Internet connections (only servers)
 Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State  
 PID/Program name tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:49826   0.0.0.0:* 
  LISTEN  - tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:139
 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  3668/smbd [snip]
 tcp0  0 ::1:631 :::*LISTEN 
 3195/cupsd tcp0  0 ::1:25  :::*
LISTEN  3698/master udp0  0 0.0.0.0:32769  
 0.0.0.0:*   - udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68   
   0.0.0.0:*   2867/dhcpcd udp0  0
 0.0.0.0:69  0.0.0.0:*   3390/xinetd
 [snip]

Most times when I see - as the Program name in netstat, it's a kernel thread

Did you try rpcinfo -p localhost already?
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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread James Knott
Billie Walsh wrote:
 On 09/30/2007 Richard Creighton wrote:
 Seein' as how M$ isn't supporting XP anymore, what would happen if you
 had a hardware failure and *had* to install the latest 'offering' from
 M$ on new hardware?

 M$ said they would support XP till 2010.

I think he's referring to it not being available on a new computer. 
That was recently extended to the end ofnext June, as Vista is not
selling well.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2190228,00.asp
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2189917,00.asp

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread James Knott
primm wrote:
 I don't think they paid for the xp. They stole it like everyone else.  I'm 
 not 
 that concerned that microsoft gets ripped off in this way. No one I know has 
 a licence for the pro version. They bought a new box with home edition and 
 magically it's pro without spending a euro after 'a mate of mine' popped in 
 with a dvd. The same with office. Whatever that means. I don't think it's 
 possible to steal opensuse is it? That's why I'm trying to make the outfit 
 legally comfortable. Throwing openoffice at office users is just not 
 possible. They simply cannot change. Filesave as isn't in the same place for 
 a start. How can you use a system where Filesave as isn't in the same place? 
 I mean it's just not possible is it. And as for word count. Just forget it. 
 In openoffice you just can't do it. it's impossible to do a word count in 
 open office. You have to click three times for gad sake. All they do it type 
 and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents another 
 weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.
   
Perhaps you should point out the consequences of running pirated
software, BSA etc.  Then you can explain how open source stuff is
legally available for free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Software_Alliance
 But thanks for the encouragement. I think at last I'm being understood. Fancy 
 a beer anyone?

   
A pint o' Guinness please.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Billie Walsh

On 09/30/2007 James Knott wrote:

Perhaps you should point out the consequences of running pirated
software, BSA etc.  Then you can explain how open source stuff is
legally available for free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Software_Alliance



Just move them over and tell them, Suck it up Cowgirl. This is how it 
is. Get used to it.


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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 08:51 -0400, Richard Creighton wrote:

   
 Actually, from what I've seen in articles around, Vista wants
 state-of-the-art equipment to run and much of the legacy equipment just
 doesn't seem to want to run and a lot of people are balking at having to
 buy new computers just to buy a new OS and it's new and improved bugs.  
 One nice thing about Linuxso far... is that it historically allows
 people to almost run on their old 'junk' machines and still do useful
 work.   I hope this doesn't change any time soon even as it supports the
 newer equipment, I hope the old boxes aren't forgotten.
 

 That's not quite so now. For instance, the limit on the number of 
 partitions has been decreased from 64 to 16 (less than). That's one of the 
 consequence of progress in the linux field.

 - -- 
 Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
   
Someone made an ill-advised decision to change the naming scheme of IDE
drives to be the same as the new SATA drives to be the same as SCSI.  
In the process, it inherited the limitations of the SCSI drives.   I
can't think of a reason for having done it, but it appears to have been
done in all the distros.   I suspect there will be a great gnashing of
teeth when the next release hits the streets and some accomodation will
be forthcoming.   As one of the beta testers for upcoming 10.3 SuSE, it
has already proven 'interesting' and caused me personally no end of
frustration.   Generally though, Linux's progress has kept pace with the
newer hardware without losing sight of its historical past.  This is one
of the few exceptions so far.   I bet that there is NO chance that XP,
much less Vista will run on a 386 or a 286...  I cranked up 10.2 on a
486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)


Richard
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Re: [opensuse] Who is listening on these ports?

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Anders Johansson wrote:

 Most times when I see - as the Program name in netstat, it's a
 kernel thread
 
 Did you try rpcinfo -p localhost already?

io:~ # rpcinfo -p localhost
   program vers proto   port
102   tcp111  portmapper
102   udp111  portmapper
1000241   udp  32768  status
1000211   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000213   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000214   udp  32768  nlockmgr
1000241   tcp  41408  status
1000211   tcp  41408  nlockmgr
1000213   tcp  41408  nlockmgr
1000214   tcp  41408  nlockmgr


Thanks Anders - that was most helpful!  I was getting quite worried I
might have a cloaked sshd running. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Creighton wrote:

 I cranked up 10.2 on a
 486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)

How exactly did you manage that?  Have you got a 486-version of 10.2?  

I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck on
SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded to
10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but I'm
sure I'll find a way around that.


/Per Jessen, Zürich

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Re: [opensuse] Re: legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Jerry Houston
James Knott wrote:
 Actually, there are many vendors who will sell without Windows or with
 Linux installed.  For example, there's one company, located near my
 home, that sells computers loaded with Linux or no OS, for less than the
 same system with Windows.

Indeed.  Since we're Microsoft Gold Partners at work, we have no need
to buy operating systems again when we purchase computers.  (Our
licensing includes everything we need from them.)  We just bought a
buttload of new HP development machines that came directly from HP with
Linux (disguised as FreeDOS) on them, at a lower cost than if they'd
come with Windows installed.

The only annoying issue was that since they didn't have Windows on them,
they didn't have any Windows DRIVERS on them either.  I needed to
download all of those from HP and figure out what to install on a
system.  Once I got it working, we ghosted it and built the rest of the
machines from that image.

I'd be willing to bet that the eventual move to Vista will make this
sort of purchase even more common.  We could just as easily have
installed Linux on them instead of XP-Pro (but we create Windows-based
commercial software).

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[opensuse] Re: legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Per Jessen wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:
 
 I cranked up 10.2 on a
 486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)
 
 How exactly did you manage that?  Have you got a 486-version of 10.2?  
 
 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck on
 SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded to
 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but I'm
 sure I'll find a way around that.
 
 
 /Per Jessen, Zürich
imho, for this machine, you are MUCH better off by using ipcop.

http://ipcop.org

kind regards
Eberhard

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[opensuse] Re: ipcop (was: legalities)

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Eberhard Roloff wrote:

 Per Jessen wrote:
 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck
 on SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded
 to 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but
 I'm  sure I'll find a way around that.
 
 
 /Per Jessen, Zürich

 imho, for this machine, you are MUCH better off by using ipcop.
 
 http://ipcop.org

Hmm, interesting. Will ipcop run in 24Mb RAM ? It looks good I have to
say. 



/Per Jessen, Zürich

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[opensuse] Re: ipcop

2007-09-30 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Per Jessen wrote:
 Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 
 Per Jessen wrote:
 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck
 on SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded
 to 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but
 I'm  sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
 imho, for this machine, you are MUCH better off by using ipcop.

 http://ipcop.org
 
 Hmm, interesting. Will ipcop run in 24Mb RAM ? It looks good I have to
 say. 
 
I do not know. I can positively say, that I successfully used it with a
DX2 and 32 MB. With such a configuration you cannot expect to have squid
proxy and all the other features to deliver performance for hundreds of
users, but it worked very well for my home network and it worked and
worked and worked and never stopped.

Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Re: ipcop

2007-09-30 Thread Erik Jakobsen
Per Jessen wrote:
 Eberhard Roloff wrote:

   
 Per Jessen wrote:
 
 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck
 on SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded
 to 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but
 I'm  sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
   
Per, I used:

addswap=-1

added to the splashscreen, as my lappy only has 192Mb of RAM

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Re: [opensuse] Gutenprint - OpenSuSE 10.0 - where are the PPD files?

2007-09-30 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Steve Jacobs wrote:
 I've got OpenSuSE 10.0 installed to my desktop.

 I want to use my Olympus P10 photo printer on the PC.

 I installed Gutenprint 5.0.1, following the INSTALL  README files.
 It was written that Gutenprint includes PPD files for the printers it
 supports, and that they are usually found at
 /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint.

 I cannot find the PPD files anywhere on my system. I have restarted
 CUPS, and it does not list any Olympus printers when I try to add a
 printer.

 I've tried searching the 'net for a PPD file for my printer, and all
 I found was a handful of sites explaining that the appropriate PPD
 was included with Gutenprint. (AAGGHHH!!)

 I must be missing something ridiculously obvious here, but I'm stuck.
 Help?

 Thanks,
 Steve

===

For some strange reason, SuSE 10.0 does not cause the gutenprint compile 
to build or include the PPD files in your compile.  Read the docs 
included with the source of gutenprint to find what things you need to 
include with the ./configure to make that happen.  I built for 10.1 
without problems and having to add anything, but when I built it again 
for a customer using 10.0, the ppd files were not included.  I think I 
might have a spec file for a 10.0 build, if you want to build a proper 
rpm.  I'll have to search my backup discs, but if you want to contact 
me off list, I'll try to find it.

regards,
Lee

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[opensuse] Weird problem in KDE 3.5.7

2007-09-30 Thread Adam Jimerson
I'm using openSUSE 10.2 and KDE 3.5.7, and for some reason when ever I right 
click on anything in the desktop nothing happens but left clicking works 
fine.  I know its not the mouse, which is a PS/2 two button with scroll bar, 
because it only does this in KDE and this problem only started happening 
today.  I'm wondering if anyone else had this problem before and if so what 
they did to fix it.

Thanks


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Re: [opensuse] Re: legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
 Per Jessen wrote:
   
 Richard Creighton wrote:

 
 I cranked up 10.2 on a
 486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)
   
 How exactly did you manage that?  Have you got a 486-version of 10.2?  

 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck on
 SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded to
 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but I'm
 sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
 
 imho, for this machine, you are MUCH better off by using ipcop.

 http://ipcop.org

 kind regards
 Eberhard
   
This machine was a junker and I put a 'pull' drive that had an already
installed minimum install of 10.2 and lo and behold, it actually ran.  
Don't ask me how :)   I wasn't really expecting anything except maybe
the bios (if I was lucky) messages.   Would it have installed from a
CD?   Dunno, probably not but this was from a drive that already had an
installation on it from earler experiments and a self-compiled kernel
about a year ago, I guess.   It only ran for about 10 min before it
froze (heat) which is why I now remember I  pulled it in the first
place, but it was an interesting experiment non-the-less, and does
illustrate the 'Linux runs on junk as well as modern machines'.   Hell,
Linux is running in my TIVO Direct-TV DVR right now and probably my
washing machine :)  I went through a McDonalds/Wendys/BurgerKing (don't
wanna prejudice anyone)  drive up ordering podium to place an
orderIt was running Windows...It had the Blue Screen of Death
displayedI laughed my (four letter word for posterior) off!   I
don't support that chain anymore :)

Richard

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Per Jessen wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:

   
 I cranked up 10.2 on a
 486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)
 

 How exactly did you manage that?  Have you got a 486-version of 10.2?  

 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck on
 SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded to
 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but I'm
 sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
   
This was a 'pull' from a machine I was playing with about a year ago
with a self-compiled kernel.   I stuck it into an old chassis with a 486
in it just to see what would happen, if anything, and suprised myself
when it actually bootednot for long, alas, the reason the old
chassis was sitting on the shelf suddenly was rememberedit dies
after about 10min or so due to thermal problems.   Maybe I should try
and fix that and have a new toy :)


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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Per Jessen wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:

   
 I cranked up 10.2 on a
 486DX-2 the other day just to see it run...slow, but it ran :)
 

 How exactly did you manage that?  Have you got a 486-version of 10.2?  

 I've got a 486DX2 machine running as firewall/gateway, but it's stuck on
 SuSE 7.1 - I would certainly be interested in getting it upgraded to
 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but I'm
 sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich

   
Now for a better answer to your question.  In my opinion, I doubt that
anyone could actually get a full 10.2 distro to install and run on
anything less than a Pentium/AMD-K6 or some such processor now. 
Internally, these processors support subsets that include 386 code which
of course the 486 also understands.   So, the kernel can be compiled to
run as a 386 and shun some of the Pentium centric code and should run
just fine.   It isn't the kernel that is the problem, it is all of the
support software, multimedia, graphics, word processing, ad nausium,
that we now take for granted and say 'that is 10.2' or that is SuSE or
Kubuntu or whatever.   It isn't.  SuSE is a collection which includes
Linux, as is Debian, or whatever distro you happen to like.   It is the
collection of support software that becomes the personality of the
distribution and it is also the reason our old 486 machines won't run
anymore.   It is these neat packages of music, graphics, editors and
what-not, that depend on instructions that the poor old 486 processor
simply has no concept of.   So while Linux itself can be compiled to run
in a mode that is compatible with the old box, it is unlikely the rest
of any modern distro will do so as well.   However, remember, you are
given the source code to much of the software you use and it *is*
possible that if you put your mind to it, many programs might be coerced
into a compatible mode and recompiled...not a chore for the faint of
heart.   Also, not a few of the packages include NON-OSS programs, which
mean 'sorry Charlie' because the sources are not available.   All this
said however, I challange a user of VISTA or even XP to take its' kernel
and boot on a 486...never mind all its bells and whistles, just the
kernelLinux users can, even a modern version.  And when you get done
with the Windows trial, you can have a boat anchor, and with the Linux
box, you can have a router :)

Richard

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 09:51 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
 On 09/30/2007 Richard Creighton wrote:

 M$ said they would support XP till 2010.

Translated, that means:
worms and viri aimed at XP will be written at least 'till 2010 ;)

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Hans Witvliet wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 09:51 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
   
 On 09/30/2007 Richard Creighton wrote:
 

   
 M$ said they would support XP till 2010.
 

 Translated, that means:
 worms and viri aimed at XP will be written at least 'till 2010 ;)

   
...just think of all the people that would be put out of work if all
these worms didn't existI mean, Panda, McAffee, Nortonwell, the
list goes on :)   I'm sure these companies and others like them are
happy to hear of Microsoft's benevolent move.   It also gives time to
properly develop worms and viri for whatever Vista evolves into :)   ...
just in case the old XP ones don't work for some reasonlike a lot of
the  programs.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-30 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 What's the output of
 rpm -qa | grep myspell
 rpm -q --whatprovides myspell-dictionary
 ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
 running /usr/lib/thunderbird/add-plugins.sh as root

 ?
 
 Here goes:
 
 minas-morgul:~ # rpm -qa | grep myspell
 myspell-american-20060207-13
 myspell-british-20050526-85
 myspell-spanish-20051029-83
 minas-morgul:~ # rpm -q --whatprovides myspell-dictionary
 myspell-american-20060207-13
 myspell-british-20050526-85
 myspell-spanish-20051029-83

ok

 minas-morgul:~ # ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
 total 685
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2731 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.aff
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 696138 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.dic
 minas-morgul:~ #
 minas-morgul:~ # /usr/lib/thunderbird/add-plugins.sh
 minas-morgul:~ # ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
 total 685
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2731 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.aff
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 696138 Sep 22 08:36 en-US.dic
 minas-morgul:~ #

That's quite weird.
The add-plugins.sh script should just check for all *.aff *.dic files in
/usr/share/myspell and link to them from the
/usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries directory.
That works on my ancient 10.2 system w/o issues and I don't see any
changes which should break that.
/me needs a recent 10.3 media

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Re: [opensuse] Re: ipcop

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Erik Jakobsen wrote:

 Per Jessen wrote:
 to 10.2.  The 256Mb yast memory requirement might be a problem, but
 I'm  sure I'll find a way around that.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich
   
 Per, I used:
 
 addswap=-1
 
 added to the splashscreen, as my lappy only has 192Mb of RAM

Yeah, I've done that too, but 192Mb is a lot more than just 24Mb ... :-)


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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Per Jessen
Richard Creighton wrote:

 It is the collection of support software that becomes the personality
 of the distribution and it is also the reason our old 486 machines
 won't run anymore.  

Uh, I'm not sure I can quite follow you.  If the openSUSE project built
the distro for the 386 instruction set, the old 486 machines would
still work fine.  

 It is these neat packages of music, graphics, editors and what-not,
 that depend on instructions that the poor old 486 processor simply has
 no concept of. 

If there is code containing 586 or 686 specific instructions, it
obviously won't work on anything that does not have support for those. 
However, regular C code can be compiled not to use such instructions.

 So while Linux itself can be compiled to run in a mode that is
 compatible with the old box, it is unlikely the rest of any modern
 distro will do so as well. 

Actually, I think it's quite likely that openSUSE could.

 I challange a user of VISTA or even XP to take its' kernel and boot on
 a 486...never mind all its bells and whistles, just the
 kernel

I have a suspicion you might be surprised.  There's probably still some
OS2 stuff lurking around in Vista. 



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[opensuse] initrd

2007-09-30 Thread caleb storms
hey all,

its been awhile since i've had to compile a kernel, but i had to for
some things and i've installed it with no real issue, the thing is that
I used the old initrd file for my boot loader.  Therefore it didn't seem
to load the new modules.  Makes sense i guess.  Anyway, i'm on a ppc and
i have not found an easy way to create an initrd image.  Does anyone
know of any down and dirty howto for this ?

Caleb

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Re: [opensuse] legalities

2007-09-30 Thread Richard Creighton
Per Jessen wrote:
 Richard Creighton wrote:

   
 It is the collection of support software that becomes the personality
 of the distribution and it is also the reason our old 486 machines
 won't run anymore.  
 

 Uh, I'm not sure I can quite follow you.  If the openSUSE project built
 the distro for the 386 instruction set, the old 486 machines would
 still work fine.  

   
However, I am pretty sure the project has not been built with that
instruction set in mind.  It would be an interesting exercise to try but
I'm not sure there is enough demand for 386 only code to induce anyone
to undertake such a huge project.   All the libraries, as well as the
programs themselves would have to be recompiled.

 It is these neat packages of music, graphics, editors and what-not,
 that depend on instructions that the poor old 486 processor simply has
 no concept of. 
 

 If there is code containing 586 or 686 specific instructions, it
 obviously won't work on anything that does not have support for those. 
 However, regular C code can be compiled not to use such instructions.

   
I think there are programs that won't convert very well, ones that
utilize the MMX instructions for instance, or other 5-686 extensions to
the 386 instruction set.   Alternative code could be written but it
isn't just a matter of just setting a compiler switch I don't think.

 So while Linux itself can be compiled to run in a mode that is
 compatible with the old box, it is unlikely the rest of any modern
 distro will do so as well. 
 

 Actually, I think it's quite likely that openSUSE could.

   
Even if you are right about the OSS portion of the openSuSE distro, what
would you propose about the NON-OSS portion of the distro?Stuff like
Firefox or Thunderbird or ... well, you name it.   If the source code
isn't available, how do you propose to make that run on the 486?   Hey,
I'm all for it but I really don't think it is very likely in practice,
as much as I hate to admit it.   I'm an old fogey and I, like my old 486
machine, am a relic of the past and would like to feel useful well into
the future, but I know time marches on so I am thankful that Linux will
run on as old and varied equipment as it does and I am also glad that it
will run on some of the most modern equipment available too.

 I challange a user of VISTA or even XP to take its' kernel and boot on
 a 486...never mind all its bells and whistles, just the
 kernel
 

 I have a suspicion you might be surprised.  There's probably still some
 OS2 stuff lurking around in Vista. 


   
I never accused Microsoft of being inventive or original but I'm sure
that they have modified the original OS/2 code they got from IBM enough
so that it will no longer run on a 486 :)


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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sun, 30 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Saturday 29 September 2007 21:11, Richard Creighton wrote:
  primm wrote:
   snip
   Hi and thanks Joe. You give me new hope.
  
  
   Another doubt I had was as to whether this list was also for people using
   opensuse commercially. Maybe I'm breaking the law making money indirectly
   from opensuse. I don't mind paying for support but the advice here is all
   I need.
 
  snip

  Lynn, STOP feeling guilty about USING Linux and certainly stop feeling
  guilty about asking for help, whether or not you eventually make a
  profit from the information is irrelevant.
 
 I felt guilty before because another poster told me that I ought to know 
 about 
 linux permissions. In fact I did but needed help with them as a beginner. 
 That's why I thought I was wasting list members time. It seemed to be a list 
 just for experts.

It's probably me you were refering to.
I did not tell you that you 'ought to know', I told you that you
would do yourself a favor when you teach yourself the basics of the
permission schemes, amongst other things.  We all love to help other
Linux users of course, specially when, like you, they show a 'here
to stay' attitude, but plunging in an (Internet-wide) server setup
without knowing the basics is just not smart.

First of all, now that it's up and working; do you really know why it's
working and how to repeat it in different setups or situations? If
not: how do you know you didn't create a (potential) security problem?

Second: next time just say that you need extra guideness, because
otherwise people (like me, mea culpa) will assume that you only need
minimal hints, and you wind up having to digg deeper and deeper for
the answers you really need.

Thirth: kudos for getting the job done by yourself.

Theo
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sun, 30 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[..]
 Anyway, could I use my feminine charm, invite you back for coffee and ask you 
 guru guys where /srv/www/htdocs is on xp? I honestly dare not start it as a 
 new thread. Theo would throw me off the list!

Damn right! ;-P
The directory in XP is in C:\inetpub\wwwroot\ afaik

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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That's quite weird.
The add-plugins.sh script should just check for all *.aff *.dic files in
/usr/share/myspell and link to them from the
/usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries directory.
That works on my ancient 10.2 system w/o issues and I don't see any
changes which should break that.
/me needs a recent 10.3 media


In my 10.2 I don't even have a /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries 
directory.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/SuSE-release
openSUSE 10.2 (i586)
VERSION = 10.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -qa | grep myspell
myspell-spanish-20051029-39
myspell-american-20040623-47
myspell-british-20050526-41
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ rpm -q --whatprovides myspell-dictionary
myspell-american-20040623-47
myspell-british-20050526-41
myspell-spanish-20051029-39
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
ls: cannot access /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries: No such file or directory

nimrodel:~ # /usr/lib/thunderbird/add-plugins.sh
- - added myspell dictionaries
nimrodel:~ # ls -l /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
ls: cannot access /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries: No such file or directory


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Re: [opensuse] initrd

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 16:20 -0400, caleb storms wrote:


its been awhile since i've had to compile a kernel, but i had to for
some things and i've installed it with no real issue, the thing is that
I used the old initrd file for my boot loader.  Therefore it didn't seem
to load the new modules.  Makes sense i guess.  Anyway, i'm on a ppc and
i have not found an easy way to create an initrd image.  Does anyone
know of any down and dirty howto for this ?


Doesn't the mkinitrd script work there?

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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 11:08 -0400, James Knott wrote:


open office. You have to click three times for gad sake. All they do it type
and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents another
weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.


Perhaps you should point out the consequences of running pirated
software, BSA etc.  Then you can explain how open source stuff is
legally available for free.


Here they would simply laugh at you.

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[opensuse] use headphones and line out independently on Intel 82801DB-ICH4

2007-09-30 Thread Kilian Rambach
Hi,
I want to mix some music and use therefore the headphone-out and the
line-out of my soundcard independently. By now, I can only change the
volume for both headphone-out and line-out together using master-volume.
The Volume-control for the Headphones in the mixer doesn't have any effect.
Does anyone know if that is possible with my soundcard?
Intel 82801DB-ICH4 Chipset Analog Devices AD1981B .

I'am using the modules snd_intel8x0, snd_ac97_bus, snd_ac97_codec

I think it is much clearer this way:
I want to have four devices, e.g.:
/dev/dsp0 - line out right
/dev/dsp1 - line out left
/dev/dsp2 - headphone out right
/dev/dsp3 - headphone out left

Thanks,
Kilian
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Re: [opensuse] Installing 10.3 to a USB external drive?

2007-09-30 Thread Nick Zentena
On Saturday 29 September 2007 07:19, Nick Zentena wrote:
 On Friday 28 September 2007 19:59, Rajko M. wrote:
  Yeah.
 
  I said to install all, including grub, on USB stick and change only BIOS
  boot sequence to include USB before HD. That way when you take USB out,
  computer will boot from hard disk as before.

   I was afraid you say that. With 10.3 RC1 grub either seems to work but
 when I reboot I get the error 21. Or if I do the grub from the rescue disk
 I get an error message claiming the disk doesn't exist.

   Grub is happy to write to the internal disk.

   I'll try again later today and post the fdisk output.

   Nick


I give up.

During installs I get a silent failure when trying to put grub on the 
USB 
drive.

If I try doing it from the rescue system it can't find the drive and 
gives me 
an error.

When 10.3 is fully released I'll try again.

Nick
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-30 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 21:45 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
 
 
 That's quite weird.
 The add-plugins.sh script should just check for all *.aff *.dic files in
 /usr/share/myspell and link to them from the
 /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries directory.
 That works on my ancient 10.2 system w/o issues and I don't see any
 changes which should break that.
 /me needs a recent 10.3 media
 
 In my 10.2 I don't even have a /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
 directory.

That's maybe just because you have Thunderbird 1.5.0.x there?
IIRC it was in /usr/lib/thunderbird/components/dictionaries or
/usr/lib/thunderbird/components/myspell there.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread James Knott
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 11:08 -0400, James Knott wrote:

  open office. You have to click three times for gad sake. All they
 do it type
  and use outlook express. Getting wine to run office represents another
  weekend's work for me. But even then I need a licence to use it.
 
  Perhaps you should point out the consequences of running pirated
  software, BSA etc.  Then you can explain how open source stuff is
  legally available for free.

 Here they would simply laugh at you.


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[opensuse] Mounting External Hard Disks

2007-09-30 Thread Lívio Cipriano
Hi all,

I've been trying to use a external disk. I can format it, mount it, but I 
can't write on it, cause always openSUSE 10.2 mounts it with owner and group 
as root.

I found that strange cause all the usb pens are writable. Why not the disk? 
The only answer that I found is that the pens are format with vfat. I format 
the disk with vfat and it mounted with my user name as owner and group as 
root.

So ... How can I mount an external disk, not format with vfat, with my user 
name as owner?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Thunderbird fails to load extra dictionaries in 10.3 RC2

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 23:32 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:


In my 10.2 I don't even have a /usr/lib/thunderbird/dictionaries
directory.


That's maybe just because you have Thunderbird 1.5.0.x there?


Yes, that's correct.


IIRC it was in /usr/lib/thunderbird/components/dictionaries or
/usr/lib/thunderbird/components/myspell there.


The last one:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ l /usr/lib/thunderbird/components/myspell
total 696
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   4096 2007-07-28 09:47 ./
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   4096 2007-07-28 09:47 ../
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-02-16 16:23 en-GB.aff - 
/usr/share/myspell/en_GB.aff
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-02-16 16:23 en-GB.dic - 
/usr/share/myspell/en_GB.dic
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2731 2007-07-26 20:20 en-US.aff
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 695748 2007-07-26 20:20 en-US.dic
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-02-16 16:23 es-ES.aff - 
/usr/share/myspell/es_ES.aff
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2007-02-16 16:23 es-ES.dic - 
/usr/share/myspell/es_ES.dic


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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread James Knott
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 17:56 -0400, James Knott wrote:


  Perhaps you should point out the consequences of running pirated
  software, BSA etc.  Then you can explain how open source stuff is
  legally available for free.
 
  Here they would simply laugh at you.
 

  Until someone snitches.

 When I try to convince somebody here to use linux or openoffice
 because it is free, they answer that windows is also free - as in
 beer. It is a lost cause :-(

 That argument doesn't win any terrain here. Sad, but that's how it is.

Until MS sics the mob^H^H^H BSA on you.  ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Ron Eggler
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
 Ron Eggler wrote:
  Joe, Great, thank you. installed 1.2.11 now from given repo. :)
  Okay, then had to go thru the new conf file to find ghow I can enable
  remote administration via webbrowser.
  changes
  Location /
  added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
  Location /admin
  added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
  Location /admin/conf
  added Allow 192.168.0.* as a new line
 
  [save and exit]
  [restart /etc/init.d/cups]
 
  but I'm still not able to login to http://192.168.0.2:631;
  What went wrong here, what did I forget?
  Thanks lots for your help!

 This one:
 # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
 Listen localhost:631
 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

Listen 192.168.0.*:631

but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a 
firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 15:58 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:


This one:
# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

Listen 192.168.0.*:631

but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a
firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o


Ouh?

Weird...

I would then try with wireshark (aka ethereal) to track the connection 
attempt. No, first I would look at cups logs; you can also increase their 
verbosity.



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Re: [opensuse] ftp permissions

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 18:48 -0400, James Knott wrote:


When I try to convince somebody here to use linux or openoffice
because it is free, they answer that windows is also free - as in
beer. It is a lost cause :-(

That argument doesn't win any terrain here. Sad, but that's how it is.


Until MS sics the mob^H^H^H BSA on you.  ;-)


X'-)

Actually, I think it's a trick of them. They don't care how we - that's 
they - get their windows software from, as long as people get used to it. 
As the users know how to use word and reject changes, they are sure that 
when the time comes, the big businesses will be forced to buy again 
windows software.



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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Don Raboud
On Sunday 30 September 2007 16:58, Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
   but I'm still not able to login to http://192.168.0.2:631;
   What went wrong here, what did I forget?
   Thanks lots for your help!
 
  This one:
  # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
  Listen localhost:631
  Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

 Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

 Listen 192.168.0.*:631

 but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have
 a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o

How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows machine? 
By typing 192.168.0.2:631  in a browser?  I don't know if that would work.

In the add printer dialog in windows, you select network printer and at some 
point you can select a specific url.  If the printer queue name on 
192.168.0.2 is printer_name then the appropriate url would be

http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name

If you've already done this then never mind... (I don't remember the beginning 
of the thread...)


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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
On 10/01/2007 07:51 AM, Don Raboud wrote:
 How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows 
 machine? 
 By typing 192.168.0.2:631  in a browser?  I don't know if that would work.

 In the add printer dialog in windows, you select network printer and at some 
 point you can select a specific url.  If the printer queue name on 
 192.168.0.2 is printer_name then the appropriate url would be

 http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name

   
Correction, no slash before 631, i.e.
http://192.168..2:631/printers/printer_name (which is really queue
name).  HTH

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Don Raboud
On Sunday 30 September 2007 17:57, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 On 10/01/2007 07:51 AM, Don Raboud wrote:
  http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name

 Correction, no slash before 631, i.e.
 http://192.168..2:631/printers/printer_name (which is really queue
 name).  HTH

:-(

But the 0 in 192.168.0.2 was ok  ;-)
Finally I think we agree on

http://192.168.0.2:631/printers/printer_name

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Carlos E. R.

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Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

Listen 192.168.0.*:631

but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have
a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o


How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows machine?
By typing 192.168.0.2:631  in a browser?  I don't know if that would work.


Yes, it should work. He is typing http://192.168.0.2:631; on the browser, 
and that should work, it is the administrative interface.


That's different from printing, but it is an easy network test.

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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Ron Eggler
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:36:45 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 15:58 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
  This one:
  # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
  Listen localhost:631
  Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
 
  Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
 
  Listen 192.168.0.*:631
 
  but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not
  have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o

 Ouh?

 Weird...

 I would then try with wireshark (aka ethereal) to track the connection
 attempt. No, first I would look at cups logs; you can also increase their
 verbosity.

How do I increase their verbosity? been checking 
by: tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log

I'm behind a hardware router/firewall so i'm not really scared about your 
wireshark threat ;)

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[opensuse] Problem booting KDE Live CD

2007-09-30 Thread Ralph De Witt
Hi all:
I am trying to boot theOpensuse 10.3 KDE Live CD on my Dell Inspiron E1705 
laptop, but I am running into a problem. CDrom not found is the error message 
after booting. It then reboots. I have tried the APM, ACpi boot options with 
no luck. Can anyone help get me around this problem so that I can try the 
distro out?
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Re: [opensuse] cups and Windows

2007-09-30 Thread Ron Eggler
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:51:16 pm Don Raboud wrote:
 On Sunday 30 September 2007 16:58, Ron Eggler wrote:
  On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
but I'm still not able to login to http://192.168.0.2:631;
What went wrong here, what did I forget?
Thanks lots for your help!
  
   This one:
   # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
   Listen localhost:631
   Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
 
  Oh okay, I added following line below Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
 
  Listen 192.168.0.*:631
 
  but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not
  have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o

 How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows
 machine? By typing 192.168.0.2:631  in a browser?  I don't know if that
 would work.

 In the add printer dialog in windows, you select network printer and at
 some point you can select a specific url.  If the printer queue name on
 192.168.0.2 is printer_name then the appropriate url would be

 http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name

 If you've already done this then never mind... (I don't remember the
 beginning of the thread...)

I have been able to find and add the printer in Windows flawlessly, it just 
wouldn't let me print. :o But since I updated cups last night i'm now 
fighting with the remote administration in cupsd.conf... :-O

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[opensuse] Dell utilities

2007-09-30 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi,

Just added two Dell utilities to the buildservice, is there anyone
interested in testing them?, they are biosdisk and libsmbios.

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[opensuse] sound volume

2007-09-30 Thread James Tremblay
Hey guys, the max volume of my system is 1/2 of what it is under
windows. is there an adjustment?
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Re: [opensuse] sound volume

2007-09-30 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:07, James Tremblay wrote:
 Hey guys, the max volume of my system is 1/2 of what it is under
 windows.

Wait until SUSE 11.0 - it will be louder.


 is there an adjustment? 

YaST  Hardware  Sound  Other  Volume

Go to town!


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[opensuse] postfix body_checks

2007-09-30 Thread Hans Linux
i hv setup header and body_checks for my postfix to filter some content
that i dont it. But it doesnt behave the way I want it to :P

for example, I need to filter the word sword or sw0rd, then i put
this on my body_checks file :

/sw?rd/ REJECT

The problem is, it rejects all pattern to that word like swirrrd,
swanythingrd. How do i make it to check for 5 letters only?
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Re: [opensuse] postfix body_checks

2007-09-30 Thread Andreas Winkelmann
On Monday 01 October 2007 06:04, Hans Linux wrote:
 i hv setup header and body_checks for my postfix to filter some content
 that i dont it. But it doesnt behave the way I want it to :P

 for example, I need to filter the word sword or sw0rd, then i put
 this on my body_checks file :

 /sw?rd/ REJECT

 The problem is, it rejects all pattern to that word like swirrrd,
 swanythingrd. How do i make it to check for 5 letters only?

/sw[o0]rd/

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Re: [opensuse] initrd

2007-09-30 Thread caleb storms
wow, that was simple, i read all this crazy documentation about coping
files and stuff, i guess thats old school for use with scsi.

Caleb

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  some things and i've installed it with no real issue, the thing is that
  I used the old initrd file for my boot loader.  Therefore it didn't seem
  to load the new modules.  Makes sense i guess.  Anyway, i'm on a ppc and
  i have not found an easy way to create an initrd image.  Does anyone
  know of any down and dirty howto for this ?
 
 Doesn't the mkinitrd script work there?
 
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[opensuse-wiki] openSUSE Community Map

2007-09-30 Thread Rajko M.

Seems not updated since some time. 
I see new users adding coordinates, but not appearing on the map. 
CBoltz? 

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] openSUSE Community Map

2007-09-30 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 30 September 2007 08:06:06 pm Christian Boltz wrote:
 Hello,

 on Sonntag, 30. September 2007, Rajko M. wrote:
  Seems not updated since some time.
  I see new users adding coordinates, but not appearing on the map.
  CBoltz?

Good that you have seen my message.

 Something[tm] broke it, but at least it wasn't my fault *g*

 My coordinates.php file fetches
 http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=OpenSUSE_Community/Map/Coordinatesa
ction=raw Until now, it simply passed the content to the map script (and
 worked the last time I checked it), so the problem must be caused by a
 change on the coordinates page.

If that was comment in the middle of the {{map_user... list than it is my 
fault. I didn't want to remove faulty entry, I just commented it out, but my 
crystal ball got meldown some time ago, and I haven't seen where is the 
problem ;-)  

 I have modified the code in coordinates.php [1]. This means:
 - all lines before the !--START-- comment will be ignored
 - all remaining lines containing {{map_user will be read
 - all other lines will be dropped

 I have moved the entry
 !-- In the middle of the sea?
 {{map_user|54:11:47|2:49:40|SuSe User UK|South Lakes Lancashire
 Cumbria}}
 --

 to the top of the page, because the new PHP code does NOT ignore it - it
 simply drops the !-- and -- lines ;-)
 If someone can fix this entry, just move it downwards again.

Someone with name SuSe User probably just played to see how map works. 
I guess that entry can be removed. 

 I have also done some minor bugfixing and enhancements:
 - people who didn't enter an URL will no longer have their name linked
   as a href=
 - there's a loading map data... notice now until the data is loaded
 - the name list below the map is now organized in columns instead of an
   endless line and therefore easier to read


 To make the story short: The map works again :-) and I'll run
 mv $0 bed/ now.

 Rajko, you might want to update the screenshot in the wiki - there are
 much more users in the map now ;-)

:-D
Will be soon.

 Regards and good night,

 Christian Boltz

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