Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

[michael norman]

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Subject: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3
Date: Friday 11 January 2008
From: Carl Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: opensuse@opensuse.org

On Thu January 10 2008 10:49:27 pm Jason Craig wrote:
> clarge wrote:
> > Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?
>
> $> ffmpeg -i foo.flac -acodec mp3 -ar 192k foo.mp3
>
> should do this, but I tried and failed to find out how to maintain the
> "tags" from the FLAC and use them as the MP3's ID3 tags.
>
> --Jason

This solution appears to address converting the tags, too.

Flac to Mp3 Simplified for Linux.
http://www.sklav.com/?q=node/4

*Disclaimer: This is a Google search result that I've reviewed and it looks 
good, but I won't get around to testing it until later on = caveat emptor!

good luck & regards,

Carl

p.s. feedback would be great if it works for you... even with any 'fixes'. 

If you use KDE try Audiokonverter

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608


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Re: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

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> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3
> Date: Friday 11 January 2008
> From: Carl Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> 
> On Thu January 10 2008 10:49:27 pm Jason Craig wrote:
>> clarge wrote:
>>> Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?
>> $> ffmpeg -i foo.flac -acodec mp3 -ar 192k foo.mp3
>>
>> should do this, but I tried and failed to find out how to maintain the
>> "tags" from the FLAC and use them as the MP3's ID3 tags.
>>
>> --Jason
> 
> This solution appears to address converting the tags, too.
> 
> Flac to Mp3 Simplified for Linux.
> http://www.sklav.com/?q=node/4
> 
> *Disclaimer: This is a Google search result that I've reviewed and it looks 
> good, but I won't get around to testing it until later on = caveat emptor!
> 
> good luck & regards,
> 
> Carl
> 
> p.s. feedback would be great if it works for you... even with any 'fixes'. 
> 
> If you use KDE try Audiokonverter
> 
> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12608
> 
> 

I would also recommend Audioconverter.
It works if right-clicked on an audiofile in konqueror: Actions >
Convert to: >  MP3, OGG, M4A i-pod (AAC), Flac and Wav
Very nice and easy to use feature...

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Cristian Rodríguez]

Scott Newton escribió:

At the moment they seem to have exactly the same packages in them. What would 
normally be the difference?


Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you 
want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;) otherwise your best bet 
is to use 10.3 with KDE packages from the openSUSE buildservice.




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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

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David C. Rankin wrote:
> Listmates,
> 
>   I don't know whether this is a openSuSE bug or an Apache bug with
> spamassassin. Spamassassin's sa-learn is doing something that causes
> kernel errors. Take a look and let me know if I should file it with
> Novell or Apache. I would normally think it would just be Apache, but if
> it is getting to the kernel, Novell may be the right place. Here is the log:
> 
> 



> Jan 10 13:00:02 bonza imapd[9931]: PAM audit_log_acct_message() failed:
> Operation not permitted
> Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
> dereference at virtual address 0044
> Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  printing eip:



> 

Err, what makes you think this is spamassassin and Apache... PAM audit
is failing here as well... and imapd seems to be involved ? Could this
possibly be caused by some sort of interaction between Spamassassin and
your IMAP server

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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

Marcin Floryan wrote:

Hello!

Yup, crude solution but it seems to work very well. Thanks!

Though I wonder now if there is any way to do that is I didn't have a
public IP server at hand (ie. two machines behind NAT with no
influence on the Firewall). More out of curiosity since the problem at
hand has now been solved.

Cheers!

Marcin


There would probably by easier ways, but if you want to follow the 
tunneling approach, and you both are behind nat/firewall rules that you 
can not change, you need a third (trusted) hosted which you both have 
ssh access to.


Then the target (your friend) could open a reverse port forward on that 
host, and you could either connect to him on that host, or setup a local 
port forward so that you could connect to him by reaching localhost on 
that port.


I'm not sure if that made any sense, heres an example:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssh -L :localhost: 3rd_host

Then you can reach your friends machine by connecting to localhost on 
port .


As a said, there is probably easier ways, but my guess is they all 
require a third host if both of you are completely cut off from 
configuring nat and firewall.


Best regards
Sylvester Lykkehus
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Re: [opensuse] Access a remote openSuSE installation sitting behind NAT

[Marcin Floryan]

Thanks for the example! I've had a busy evening last night mastering
the technique and it works well enough. I have also come across an
idea of using "hole punching" and UDP but it seems to be more complex.
Nevertheless a third host is essential, luckily I had one.

Cheers,

On 11/01/2008, Sylvester Lykkehus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There would probably by easier ways, but if you want to follow the
> tunneling approach, and you both are behind nat/firewall rules that you
> can not change, you need a third (trusted) hosted which you both have
> ssh access to.
>
> Then the target (your friend) could open a reverse port forward on that
> host, and you could either connect to him on that host, or setup a local
> port forward so that you could connect to him by reaching localhost on
> that port.
>
> I'm not sure if that made any sense, heres an example:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssh -R :localhost:22 3rd_host
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> ssh -L :localhost: 3rd_host
>
> Then you can reach your friends machine by connecting to localhost on
> port .
>
> As a said, there is probably easier ways, but my guess is they all
> require a third host if both of you are completely cut off from
> configuring nat and firewall.
>
> Best regards
> Sylvester Lykkehus

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Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

[Cristian Rodríguez]

clarge escribió:

Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?



there is a simple commend line utility that has worked for me

try this

zypper sa -r 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/elvigia/openSUSE_10.3/home:elvigia.repo


zypper in flac2mp3

then...

#flac2mp3.pl  

WARNING: you need the packman repository added to your package manager 
as well, otherwise the tool will fail to install due to missing 
dependencies, opensuse itself cannot include the "lame" mp3 tool due to 
legal reasons.




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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

[Philipp Thomas]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:

>I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
>these directions 

Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:
> 
>> I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. 
>> From 
>> these directions 
> 
> Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.
> 
> Philipp

Exactly that happened to me  a few times in the past, it totaly wrecked
my install, that's why i've gotten carefull with it.
But i must say, i don not know if this is still happening now.
These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
It is usefull, if one cannot uninstall a particular pkg, because of
endless lists of deps, smart just does the job...

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox & dos6.22 guest

[Philipp Thomas]

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:43:43 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:

>My athlon FX 2800 cpu goes to 99% immediately when the dos guest boots.

Known problem for ages :(  DOS is agnostic of other possible CPU users
and keeps the CPU busy by not emitting wait instructions to halt the
CPU. It's up to the VM to handle that.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

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Apologies something weird happened... and one copy went to wrong list.


> 
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[opensuse] Sierra 850 Wireless Card - SOLVED

[Chris Rolfe]

Found the following

https://forge.vodafonebetavine.net/projects/vodafonemobilec/

This is a Vodafone connect client for Linux, and works just great!

It is also available in the repositories if you search for it in
webpin.  The 850 card requires an additional plugin for the card to be
recognised.

Give me a shout if you require this file.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

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Billie Walsh wrote:
> G T Smith wrote:
>> Billie Walsh wrote:
>>
>> 
>>


> I don't think I've ever seen anyone give a time frame for this sort of
> thing. It IS in the future somewhere. But not impossible to achieve.
> 
>> a) To do this you need good pattern recognition. Neural net based
>> applications a still more than a bit limited in accuracy, reliability
>> and range of usage. Finger scanning yes, facial recognition not yet by a
>> long way.
>>
>> b) The cognitive A.I. to deal with the semantics, intent, and action
>> interpretation of human activity does not exist outside the lab.
> 
> "outside the lab" Does that mean that it's IN the lab?
> 

Been in the 'lab' for quite some time... since 1960s at least...


> I'm sure such things are still a few years in the future
 but

 It's a ridiculously stupid idea to think that this sort
 of thing will be in a coffee-table in every one's home
>> While I would not call it stupid, I think something like holographic
>> keyboards and displays are likely to be more cost effective (and you
>> would not need a special table) This kind of stuff is not new or
>> original 
>>
>> 
>>



>> People also were saying that we would be have an active base on the Moon
>> by 2000, and we have not been back for 20 years or so
>>
>> If you look some of the futurogist predictions from the 1950, 1960 and
>> 1970 of what we would have and be doing now and compare them to what we
>> actually have the incongruences can be startling.
> 
> But, on the other hand some of the congruences are startling also.
> That's the problem with predicting the future. It changes from where you
> are to where you wind up. "We" could have moon bases if things had
> progressed from where we were to that end. We had the ability but not
> the will. People said it was costing WAY to much money to fire people up
> into space. What wasn't seen was that money went into jobs here in the
> good ol' USofA.
> 
> Once Kennedy's vision was met the whole country lost the will for space
> travel. It wasn't a failure of technology.
> 

futurology reminds of the the Monty Python sketch ... the one where the
old women agree that astrology reading was good that although it got the
green six foot lizard bit wrong they were right about the glasses...



>> 
>>
> Then there's the Star Trek computer. Well.maybe not quite
> THAT computer but voice interface. I've never actually tried working
> with it but I have seen demos of voice recognition software that were
>> 
>>



> I wouldn't count out the keyboard just yet but there are technologies
> out there that could go a long way towards moving it to the back
>> of the
> desk. Also wouldn't say that the keyboard will ever go completely
>> away.
> When the high tech stuff breaks the keyboard will still work.
 And more than that, among someone who is skilled, it's
 far more reliable than voice recognition ever will be.
 Fingers don't have drawls, twangs, or other vocal accents.
>> I still remember trying to train Via Voice when it was set to train from
>> an American accent... the training slightly self destructed on the
>> occasional outbursts of hysterical laughter caused by some of the more
>> ridiculous interpretations of what was being said...
>>
>> UK english was only marginally better (or worse depending on viewpoint..)
> 
> I saw a demonstration at a computer show several years ago. A VERY nice
> looking young lady [ probably more of the guys were watching her than
> the screen ] and it was remarkable. Now that was a set script,
> optimized, with, I'm sure, many MANY hours of practice with that
> particular computer and young lady. Nothing like a "real world" test of
> the software, but it did show some possibilities.
> 

Yes punctuation has to be defines. However, while we still use written
documentation the keyboard is the fastest and most efficient way of
creating text. A good keyboard can achieve data input speeds that exceed
 speech, stylus or any other current or proposed input mechanism. What
voice recognition could provide is a humanised interface in situations
where keyboard is not appropriate or required.



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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:01:56 +0100, peter wrote:

>Quite impossible. AFAIK there is no scr.rpm for it m8. It's closed
>source although freeware.

Now what would you call
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/10.3/standard/src/wink-1.5-65.src.rpm
, an Illusion?

A .src.rpm doesn't necessarily contain source code! This one contains
the tarball and calls the installer.sh from its .spec file. But then it
packages the files in a .rpm which can be installed like any other
package and also removed without problems.

In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
it'd be less embarassing.

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philippe Landau]

Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:01:56 +0100, peter wrote:


Quite impossible. AFAIK there is no scr.rpm for it m8. It's closed
source although freeware.


Now what would you call
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/10.3/standard/src/wink-1.5-65.src.rpm
, an Illusion?

A .src.rpm doesn't necessarily contain source code! This one contains
the tarball and calls the installer.sh from its .spec file. But then it
packages the files in a .rpm which can be installed like any other
package and also removed without problems.

In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
it'd be less embarassing.

Actually you wouldn't have had the opportunity to enlighten us
about the decisive details if Peter hadn't made his little mistake :-)

It's also interesting that Joe Sloan has wink in his 10.3 Non-OSS 
repository while i don't. Details to come ...

Mind you it's all academic for me now as it works here.

Kind regards Philippe
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:46:50 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

>Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you 
>want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;)

And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

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Philipp Thomas schreef:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:46:50 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> 
>> Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you 
>> want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;)
> 
> And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)
> 
> Philipp

Yep.. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

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The Friday 2008-01-11 at 11:15 +0100, Philipp Thomas wrote:


On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:46:50 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:


Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you
want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;)


And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)


Better stress that of "bleeding" ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 22:47 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:


Listmates,

I don't know whether this is a openSuSE bug or an Apache bug with
spamassassin. Spamassassin's sa-learn is doing something that causes
kernel errors. Take a look and let me know if I should file it with
Novell or Apache. I would normally think it would just be Apache, but if
it is getting to the kernel, Novell may be the right place. Here is the log:


I would start with Bugzilla at Novell. The kernel is involved (Oops), and 
more, even if triggered by anything.



Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP:0060:[]Tainted: G   N VLI


Humm! Tainted :-(

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

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peter schreef:
> Philipp Thomas wrote:
> 
> 
> | In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
> | it'd be less embarassing.
> Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.
> 

Ehum hmm..

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[peter]

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Philipp Thomas wrote:

| A .src.rpm doesn't necessarily contain source code!
Call me stupid but I still don't see the point of having src.rpm w/o a
source inside.

| This one contains
| the tarball and calls the installer.sh from its .spec file. But then it
| packages the files in a .rpm which can be installed like any other
| package and also removed without problems.

Still you do not explain why using src.rpm instead of rpm!
An there shall be no problem of having it in a rpm container.
The only explanation i can think of would be a legal issue. But then,
why  providing such a binary in a repo at all.?

| In the future I'd verify such statements before stating them publicly
| it'd be less embarassing.
Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.

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Re: [opensuse] Laptop recomendations

[George Stoianov]

FYI, I had a terrible nightmare with an HP laptop I bought and
returned recently HP. Don't get me wrong it was a good price and with
the exception of the battery that was sticking out 12-cell
(standard!!) it was a really nice machine. Some of its components
nVidia NIC and broadcom wireless, plus the CD burner were not
recognized so I returned. Otherwise the processor was AMD X2 1.9Hz
TL-58 and it was fast :). I eventually got a Sony vgn-FZ240 which has
Intel components and despite a problem I am still having with wireless
(4965agn) everything else works. Good luck with your search!.
Regards,
George

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> > > I'm going to have to replace my old (6+ years) Toshiba that has a amd
> > > 450Mhz processor and
> > > a whopping 20GB disk.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for recommendations for a mid range ($1k - 1.5k) laptop that
> > > is compatible with
> > > Opensuse 10.3.
> >
> > Anything HP.
> I'd prefer a HP Business Notebook, for example the HP nx7400 (RU430ET), I got
> one of those and had not a single hardware or compability problem til today
> (using it heavily for nearly a year now).
> >
> > > Please, no flamefests!!
> > >
> > > Randal Jarrett  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > RSJ Consulting, Inc
> > > Hernando, FL
> > > (352) 419-0112
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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

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The Friday 2008-01-11 at 09:36 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:


I would start with Bugzilla at Novell. The kernel is involved (Oops),
and more, even if triggered by anything.



Thanks Carlos, that was kind of what I was thinking.


Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP:0060:[]Tainted:
G   N VLI


Humm! Tainted :-(



How in the heck is my kernel "Tainted"? I haven't let her run around
loosely with anyone.


X'-)

Perhaps because you load the nvidia modules from the manufacturer. There 
is an 'nvidia_agp' in the list of modules.


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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

[David C. Rankin]

G T Smith wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Jan 10 13:00:02 bonza imapd[9931]: PAM audit_log_acct_message() failed:
>> Operation not permitted
>> Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
>> dereference at virtual address 0044
>> Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  printing eip:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Err, what makes you think this is spamassassin and Apache... PAM audit
> is failing here as well... and imapd seems to be involved ? Could this
> possibly be caused by some sort of interaction between Spamassassin and
> your IMAP server
> 

PAM is not the problem and isn't related to the spamassassin error. I
get thousands of the PAM errors, which is annoying, but innocuous so
far. See:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331683

I think the problem is:

Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Process sa-learn (pid: 10213, ti=d940c000
  ^
task=ce19bab0 task.ti=d940c000)
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Stack: c018de77 c1990b40 c1990b60 c1990b80
c1990ba0 c1990bc0 d4cdf978 d4cdf888
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: 004e 004e c0180a14
0080 d4cdfa7c e23cdabc 00019ed8
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:dfffeaa0 0096 000280d2 c015add0
4950 24a8  00cf6c00
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: Call Trace:
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [] remove_inode_buffers+0x3b/0xc8
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [] shrink_icache_memory+0xc5/0x1b6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [] shrink_slab+0xde/0x13b
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [] try_to_free_pages+0x173/0x247
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  [] __alloc_pages+0x1a1/0x2d6
Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel:  []

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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

[David C. Rankin]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> 
> I would start with Bugzilla at Novell. The kernel is involved (Oops),
> and more, even if triggered by anything.
> 

Done. See:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=353252

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

[Billie Walsh]

On 01/11/2008 G T Smith wrote:
> Billie Walsh wrote:
> > > G T Smith wrote:
> >> >> Billie Walsh wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> 
>
> > > I don't think I've ever seen anyone give a time frame for this
> sort of
> > > thing. It IS in the future somewhere. But not impossible to
> achieve.
> > >
> >> >> a) To do this you need good pattern recognition. Neural net
> based
> >> >> applications a still more than a bit limited in accuracy,
> reliability
> >> >> and range of usage. Finger scanning yes, facial recognition not
> yet by a
> >> >> long way.

In England they are setting up a new airport screening device. You
"register" with the agency and they take a computer picture of your
face. When you get to the airport you slide in your passport and look
into the camera. It "reads" a chip in your passport and compares the
picture to the one in the database. If there's a match, independent of
hairstyle/color, makeup, etc., you get a "pass" to proceed. If no match
you get t he cops called on you.

In Oklahoma when you get your drivers license they take a picture for
the computer database. When you renew your license you stand in front of
the camera and if the pictures match you get a new license. If
not. Admittedly, when they first instituted the process
several years ago they had some problem with things like hair style and
length, but they have been working on the software and it is getting
much better. Buy from the lowest bidder and you get cheap products.

Facial recognition is becoming quite good.

> >> >> b) The cognitive A.I. to deal with the semantics, intent, and
> action
> >> >> interpretation of human activity does not exist outside the lab.
> > >
> > > "outside the lab" Does that mean that it's IN the lab?
> > >
>
> Been in the 'lab' for quite some time... since 1960s at least...
>
>

But, it is still possible to do these things. Technology just has to
catch up to the dream/idea.


> > >
>
> futurology reminds of the the Monty Python sketch ... the one where
> the
> old women agree that astrology reading was good that although it got
> the
> green six foot lizard bit wrong they were right about the glasses...
>

*<[:oD

Back in the late fifties and early sixties we all thought we would have
moon bases by the end of the century. There has to be the "will" to do
things. If the will isn't there ..

Then again, sometimes technology has to catch up to our ideas/dreams.

It was a science fiction writer that envisioned global communications
with geostationary satellites long before there were even satellites of
any type. Arthur C. Clarke. He also envisioned the space elevator which
only now some are beginning to think might just be possible. Someone
reads the idea and says,"Hey what a neat idea. I think I know how to do
it." So begins years of research. Then someone makes a breakthrough in
technology and by george it does work.

For how many thousands of years "we" had to walk or ride beasts of
burden. A couple hundred years ago the rail road came along. That was
cutting edge transportation for over a hundred years. Just over a
hundred years ago the automobile started to appear on the scene. Just
about a hundred years ago men learned how to fly in heavier than air
craft. Today we have the ability to go the other planets.

The point I'm trying to make is that technology has "exploded" in the
last hundred years.  At this point, barring Armageddon, if technology
keeps going as it has there's no telling where we will be in another
hundred years.

>
> Yes punctuation has to be defines. However, while we still use written
> documentation the keyboard is the fastest and most efficient way of
> creating text. A good keyboard can achieve data input speeds that
> exceed
>  speech, stylus or any other current or proposed input mechanism. What
> voice recognition could provide is a humanised interface in situations
> where keyboard is not appropriate or required.
>
> 
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faster than I can type.
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Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

[Aaron Kulkis]

Kevin Dupuy wrote:

On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:53 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Gary Baribault wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone else seeing Beagle really kill performance? I have disabled
it and my machine finally is perky, but every now and then, I find it
in memory again. How do I arange it to chew up less memory and CPU or
kill it once and for all?

You can't.

It's one of the stupidest pieces of software that I've ever
seen in my entire 27 years of computing.  Even putting it at
the lowest priority "nice" value doesn't help, because the
damn thing floods the disk drive with a constant stream of
disk-head seeks, which interferes with any other process's
attempts to use the disk drive by making it basically, stand
in line with all of beagle's worthless disk I/O requests.

The maintainers for beagle should be taken out and kneecapped,
or beat about the head with a police baton.

Every day

Until they remove every trace of it from human existence,
except for snippets preserved for teaching purposes, under
the topic of "DO NOT DO THESE THINGS in a background services
programs"




I'm starting to get tired of the hating on Beagle's devs.


Excuse me...has anyone really expressed HATRED towards
the Beagle dev...

Or have we just been noting that the software suffers
from a VERY SERIOUS DEFICIENCY --
see "Constructive Criticism"

"hating on" should be banished from the English language,
because it is so widely abused by people who can't handle
the fact that not everything or everybody is worthy of
pure, unqualified praise now and forever.  Most of the time
when it is used, as in the posted example, it's just a
sign of trying to suppress valid criticism.


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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

[Philipp Thomas]

* M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080111 10:57]:

> These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.

Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
issues they should be aware of.

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3

[Manuel Mely]

Oh right. I read about this packages, but i was searching in
opensuse-updates :( . OK i will try this packages. Thanks a lot!
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Re: [opensuse] Laptop recomendations

[Anna Langley]

Alexander Schaber wrote:

Am Dienstag, 1. Januar 2008 04:44:11 schrieb Aaron Kulkis:

Randal Jarrett wrote:

I'm going to have to replace my old (6+ years) Toshiba that has a amd
450Mhz processor and
a whopping 20GB disk.

I'm looking for recommendations for a mid range ($1k - 1.5k) laptop that
is compatible with
Opensuse 10.3.

Anything HP.
I'd prefer a HP Business Notebook, for example the HP nx7400 (RU430ET), I got 
one of those and had not a single hardware or compability problem til today 
(using it heavily for nearly a year now).

Please, no flamefests!!


At my work we buy quite a few IBM/Lenovos which all seem to work pretty 
well, we've also had quite good experiences with HP and Toshiba 
machines.  We've not been buying Sonys for quite some time because they 
used to be a right pain to get Linux running on.  Perhaps we could 
reconsider that now.


Anna
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Markus Koßmann]

Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb Scott Newton:
> If I want to install KDE4 on openSUSE 10.3 should I be using
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3
> or
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_Factory ?
>
> At the moment they seem to have exactly the same packages in them. What
> would normally be the difference?

dependencies.  For example factory has switched to gcc-4.3 . So I expect that 
the KDE packages in factory were compiled with gcc-4.3 (instead of gcc-4.2 
used for 10.3)  and they depend on the libstdc++ from gcc-4.3.

So use the  openSUSE_10.3 repo unless you want to ask for  trouble. 

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

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The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 21:58 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


Subject: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without


  

Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)


Please, could you keep this exclusively on the offtopic list, and not 
bring it back to the general list?


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[opensuse] Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3

[Manuel Mely]

Hi there,

I've some problems when trying to compile alsa-driver 1.0.15.
If a do a "make" i get this error[1]:
I was looking to adriver.h (line 930) and there's an include to a file
(pci.h) that isn't present in this package.
My kernel is 2.6.22.13 ... i will try with 1.0.15rc1 package.

I read about upgrading kernel, but i have some Xen VMs working preety good.

Any suggestion?


1-
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.13-0.3'
  CC [M]  /srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/acore/hwdep.o
In file included from /srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/adriver.h:930,
 from
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/sound/driver.h:46,
 from /srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/acore/hwdep.c:22:
/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.13-0.3/include/linux/pci.h:552: error: expected
identifier or '(' before numeric constant
In file included from
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/sound/driver.h:46,
 from /srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/acore/hwdep.c:22:
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/adriver.h: In function
'snd_pci_orig_save_state':
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/adriver.h:1172: error: too
many arguments to function 'pci_save_state'
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/adriver.h: In function
'snd_pci_orig_restore_state':
/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/include/adriver.h:1176: error: too
many arguments to function 'pci_restore_state'
make[4]: *** [/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/acore/hwdep.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15/acore] Error 2
make[2]: *** [_module_/srv/ftp/utils/alsa-driver-1.0.15] Error 2
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.22.13-0.3'
make: *** [compile] Error 2
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[opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

[Roger Oberholtzer]

Hello

Is anyone using LTSP on openSUSE10.3? I have installed the components
via the one-click on opensuse.org/LTSP. The system is an fresh original
install (no updates) and the things from the LTSP one-click install.

When I try to make the thing with "kiwi-ltsp-setup -s", it gets a fair
bit along. It installs a whole bunch of packages in what it is creating.
When it is going to make the netboot image, I get:

Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Copying user defined files to image tree   done
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Create .profile for package scripts   done
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Setting up linuxrc...   done
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: 
/tmp/kiwi-netboot//base-system/media/SU1030.001
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: 
/tmp/kiwi-netboot//base-system/usr/share/kiwi/image/ltsp/suse-10.3/extra-packages
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/dev/pts
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/sys
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/proc
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : KIWI exited successfully   done
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Verifying installation source...
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Installation source verified.
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Running the KIWI netboot creation.
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Setting log file to: terminal
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Reading image description...   done
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Extracting kernel...   failed
Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Couldn't find compressed kernel   failed
Jan-11 17:20 <3> : KIWI exited with error(s)   done
KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:36: Could not create the KIWI netboot. Aborting!



I am new to this, so I am not sure what is or is not going on. Any ideas
about where to start looking? I have the whole log, in case there is
anything there that could shed light on this. But I am feeling the
waters here first.

While on the topic, does anyone know where one could trim the packages
to a very basic system with networking? No GUI. Just be able to start a
network service.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

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> 
>> These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
> 
> Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
> issues they should be aware of.
> 
> Philipp
> 

So was i, you were not blamed.. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.3 and LTSP

[jigish . gohil]

What installation media are you using here /media/SU1030.001 ?

If it is retail DVD 1, it will not work, please use i586 DVD or iso image.

You can also try with LTSP_DEBUG="1" option in
/etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp, that will give you some clue where it fails.

Do post log after turning on debug if it fails.

Ciao

-J

On 1/11/08, Roger Oberholtzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is anyone using LTSP on openSUSE10.3? I have installed the components
> via the one-click on opensuse.org/LTSP. The system is an fresh original
> install (no updates) and the things from the LTSP one-click install.
>
> When I try to make the thing with "kiwi-ltsp-setup -s", it gets a fair
> bit along. It installs a whole bunch of packages in what it is creating.
> When it is going to make the netboot image, I get:
>
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Copying user defined files to image tree   done
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Create .profile for package scripts   done
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Setting up linuxrc...   done
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path:
> /tmp/kiwi-netboot//base-system/media/SU1030.001
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path:
> /tmp/kiwi-netboot//base-system/usr/share/kiwi/image/ltsp/suse-10.3/extra-packages
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/dev/pts
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/sys
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Umounting path: /tmp/kiwi-netboot/proc
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : KIWI exited successfully   done
> KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Verifying installation source...
> KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Installation source verified.
> KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:35: Running the KIWI netboot creation.
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Setting log file to: terminal
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Reading image description...   done
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Extracting kernel...   failed
> Jan-11 17:20 <1> : Couldn't find compressed kernel   failed
> Jan-11 17:20 <3> : KIWI exited with error(s)   done
> KIWI-LTSP: 2008-01-11 17:20:36: Could not create the KIWI netboot. Aborting!
>
>
>
> I am new to this, so I am not sure what is or is not going on. Any ideas
> about where to start looking? I have the whole log, in case there is
> anything there that could shed light on this. But I am feeling the
> waters here first.
>
> While on the topic, does anyone know where one could trim the packages
> to a very basic system with networking? No GUI. Just be able to start a
> network service.
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Re: [opensuse] Laptop recomendations

[Alexander Schaber]

Am Dienstag, 1. Januar 2008 04:44:11 schrieb Aaron Kulkis:
> Randal Jarrett wrote:
> > I'm going to have to replace my old (6+ years) Toshiba that has a amd
> > 450Mhz processor and
> > a whopping 20GB disk.
> >
> > I'm looking for recommendations for a mid range ($1k - 1.5k) laptop that
> > is compatible with
> > Opensuse 10.3.
>
> Anything HP.
I'd prefer a HP Business Notebook, for example the HP nx7400 (RU430ET), I got 
one of those and had not a single hardware or compability problem til today 
(using it heavily for nearly a year now).
>
> > Please, no flamefests!!
> >
> > Randal Jarrett  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

[Aaron Kulkis]

M Harris wrote:

On Thursday 10 January 2008 10:25, Anders Johansson wrote:

I can believe it was small, but it was anything but stable
	The only product that M$ ever put out that was stable was BASIC. Well, DOS1.2 
was also very stable. The only thing M$ can't seem to innovate is stability. 
I mean BSOD is even a house-hold word in small developing countries that use 
portable generators and batteries as their primary city power source. 



Sad, but true.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

[Aaron Kulkis]

M9. wrote:

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Aaron Kulkis schreef:

M9. wrote:


Yes, i agree, it would be much cheaper to have a virtual helmet, and a
pair of gloves...
You would only need those, and a hole to plug it in
This would reduce an enormous amount of furniture, and the
vacuumclean-bot, would work shorter, and much more easy..
The room we live in could be much smaller than also: a very comfortable
chair to live in would be enough.. ;-)

I think you should find the Mad Magazine archives
[available on CD... Windows only :-( ] and read the
very first issue.

This is when the magazine was titled "Tales Calculated
to Drive you Mad"




Are you refering to Alfred E. Neuman?


Yeswell, the magazine which depicts him on the
covers -- but this is about about 3 years before
the appearance of Alfred E Neuman.


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[opensuse] One click install

[peter nikolic]

Now   then maybe i have missed something recently but !  i keep seeing stuff 
about one klick install and have several .ymp modules that arrive when i try 
to install software  the latest being  the KDE4 release   "KDE4-BASIS.ymp" 
now question  How the heck do i get these to actually do something  ?  cus i 
cant get a thing so far ..


CheersPete .





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[opensuse] MythTV resolution issues on openSUSE10.3

[Clayton]

Today I decided to upgrade my 10.2 install to 10.3.  Everything has
gone very well so far with the exception of my MythTV.  I cannot get
MythTV to start in the right resolution.

The hardware config is
Screen0 = Acer AL2016W, a 20 inch widescreen TFT monitor
Screen1 = Toshiba 32L56P widescreen LCD TV with VGA in and a max
supported VGA resolution of 1024x768
Video card is an nVidia 7600GS.  The TFT is on VGA port0 and the LCD
is on VGA port1

I am using the binary drivers from nVidia (installed via the 1-Click
link on the openSUSE wiki)

The nvidia drivers are installed correctly and tested/working.  The
TFT and LCD are set up as independent desktops, the TFT at 1680x1050,
and the LCD at 640x480 (for reasons I've never figured out, the nVidia
driver refuses to drive the monitor at any higher resolution.  This
low resolution has been working just fine though for MythTV 0.20 on
openSUSE10.2).

MythTV version 0.20.2-9 is installed with all its various bits, and
the MySQL backed is configured and is working.

When I launch mythtvsetup, or mythtvfrontend on the TFT monitor,
everything works correctly.  The resolution of the TFT is picked up
and everything loads properly.  When I launch MythTV on the LCD TV, it
detects the 640x480 resolution, but switches to 1680x1050 resolution
(instead of scaling to 640x480 like it used to do).  The result is
that I can only see the top left corner of the MythTV interface.

If I start mythtvsetup (for example) from a terminal this is theoutput:

--
mythtvsetup
2008-01-11 17:40:12.469 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2008-01-11 17:40:12.500 DPMS is disabled.
2008-01-11 17:40:12.511 New DB connection, total: 1
2008-01-11 17:40:12.518 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost
2008-01-11 17:40:12.519 Total desktop dim: 640x480, with 1 screen[s].
2008-01-11 17:40:12.523 Using screen 0, 1680x1050 at 0,0
2008-01-11 17:40:12.548 Current Schema Version: 1160
2008-01-11 17:40:12.560 Total desktop dim: 640x480, with 1 screen[s].
2008-01-11 17:40:12.563 Using screen 0, 1680x1050 at 0,0
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It is picking up on screen0, but I want it to use screen1.

I've done a fair bit of Googling on this, but nothing I've read so far
is of any help.  in fact, most of the example xorg.conf files look
pretty much the same as mine does.

Does anyone have any hints for me here?  What am I missing?


Relevant parts of my xorg.conf (which is an exact copy of the one I
used in 10.2, and which worked fine with MythTV on 10.2) are:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
InputDevice"Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice"Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "off"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName  "Acer AL2016W"
DisplaySize 433271
HorizSync   31.0 - 84.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 86.0
Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Toshiba"
ModelName  "CRT-1"
HorizSync   28.0 - 33.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName  "GeForce 7600 GS"
BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName  "GeForce 7600 GS"
BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth24
Option "TwinView" "0"
Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: 1680x1050 +0+0; CRT-0: 1600x1024 +0+0; C
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Videocard1"
Monitor"Monitor1"
DefaultDepth24
Option "TwinView" "0"
Option "metamodes" "CRT-1: 640x480 +0+0"
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Re: [opensuse] Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3

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* Manuel Mely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 11:32]:
> Hi there,
> 
> I've some problems when trying to compile alsa-driver 1.0.15.
> If a do a "make" i get this error[1]:
> I was looking to adriver.h (line 930) and there's an include to a file
> (pci.h) that isn't present in this package.
> My kernel is 2.6.22.13 ... i will try with 1.0.15rc1 package.

no need to compile it:

11:42 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads > webpin -d 10.3 alsa-driver
Query URL:
http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/searchservice/SearchService/Search/Simple/openSUSE_103/alsa-driver
   2 results (1 packages) found for "alsa-driver" in openSUSE_103
   * alsa-driver-kmp: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Drivers
   - 1.0.15.hg20071212 [BS::multimedia:/audio(S:n)] {src}
 @http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_10.3
   - 1.0.15.hg20071215 [BS::multimedia:/audio(S:n)] {src}
 @http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_10.3

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[opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs (WAS:Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3 )

[Manuel Mely]

Well, i installed alsa 1.0.15, i can use the plugs that are back of
the chasis, but i would like to use the ones that are front of it.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

[David C. Rankin]

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

> 
> In the 8 years since it's release, you are the
> FIRST person to contradict the many MANY complaints
> that WindowsME was far less stable than not only
> Windows98, but even Windows 3.1.
> 
> 

You are all going to think I'm crazy, but years ago, I bought a dell
dimension 4100 for use as our receptionist,s computer. It came with ME.
For years it ran without a hiccup, even with a laserjet 4 attached to it
that was shared throughout the office. The funny thing was, if you kept
the os squeeky clean, so did 3.1, 95OSR2, 98 and ME. The caveat was if
any user was ever dumb enough to catch a virus by clicking on a bad
attachment, the party was over until a reinstall.

But in the 3.1 days, install was a breeze. A couple of dos 6.22 disks,
a couple of win 3.1 disks and a couple of office disks, load your  TSRs,
trumpet winsock and the job was done in 20 minutes. And it all fit in 8
meg on the disk.

Man I miss my old 386/33 with math co-processor 4 meg of ram and a
whopping 120 meg hd and 2400 baud modem. Linux fit on it back then as well.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

[Stefan Hundhammer]

On Friday 11 January 2008 18:30, various people wrote:
[...Bill Gates...]
[...Windows...]
[...why Windows sucks...]
[...which versions of Windows suck most...]
[...why Windows does not suck...]
[...which versions of Windows suck less...]
[...Mad magazine...]
[...Alfred E. Neumann...]
...


Would you people mind very much to move this discussion back to 
[opensuse-offtopic] where it belongs (and where it should have remained in 
the first place)?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [opensuse] Laptop recomendations

[PerfectReign]

On Fri, January 11, 2008 8:52 am, Anna Langley wrote:

>
> At my work we buy quite a few IBM/Lenovos which all seem to work
> pretty
> well, we've also had quite good experiences with HP and Toshiba
> machines.  We've not been buying Sonys for quite some time because
> they
> used to be a right pain to get Linux running on.  Perhaps we could
> reconsider that now.

Nah, I think they still include Betamax drives in the front slot. 
You'll have a hard time getting linux distros that support the latest
Sony Betamax drivers.

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Re: [opensuse] One click install

[Stefan Hundhammer]

On Friday 11 January 2008 18:51, peter nikolic wrote:
> Now   then maybe i have missed something recently but !  i keep seeing
> stuff about one klick install and have several .ymp modules that arrive
> when i try to install software  the latest being  the KDE4 release  
> "KDE4-BASIS.ymp" now question  How the heck do i get these to actually do
> something  ?  cus i cant get a thing so far ..

http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/21/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-1-click-install/

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

[Simon Roberts]

- Original Message 
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:49:06 AM
Subject: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without 
Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)


M Harris wrote:
> On Thursday 10 January 2008 10:25, Anders Johansson wrote:
>> I can believe it was small, but it was anything but stable
> The only product that M$ ever put out that was stable was BASIC.
 Well, DOS1.2 
> was also very stable. The only thing M$ can't seem to innovate is
 stability. 

C'mon, they never innovated anything, they bought, copied, borrowed, or perhaps 
worse. Then in the interest of making it look like innovation, usually messed 
it up.

And BASIC was only stable until it decided to garbage collect. Then it would be 
rock solid (as in stationary, doing nothing, for ages ;)





  

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] What do you think about this?

[Aaron Kulkis]

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Rafa Grimán schreef:

Hi :)


El Friday 11 January 2008, M9. escribió:

Assassins creed.new gen game, totaly interactive...

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=gOk5j-iGuTM&NR=1


Played it last week on the PS3, quite impressive.

   Rafa



Yes, it is the most realistic game i ever saw..
one thing is for sure: I want to play this game.. ;-)



It's not realistic until an unexpected sound in the
night makes you wake up in fear for your life

:-)
:-/
:-(


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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?

[Aaron Kulkis]

M9. wrote:

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JB2 schreef:

On Fri 11 January 08 07:55, M9. wrote:


Hero's of amerika ;-)
  That's okay...I enjoy sitting over here watching you guys become 
EUnuchistan. Have you tried to wrap a towel around your head yet to learn to 
blend in in (what was once) your own country? Did you find the right size 
towel? Tell us how it feels moving from the 21st century back to the 7th. 
What does your wife/girlfriend think about the full body tent she'll have to 
wear?


Please forgive me my stupidity, but what do you actualy mean,...exactly?
If i recall correctly, Amerika was founded by fortune seekers, and
villans, that have had the choice between the gallei's, (Rowing in
chains), or get the hell out of europe to the 'new world'.
New York, was called; New Amsterdam at that time.
Gang wars deminished the numbers of crooks dramaticly, and the army had
'to restore peace', or everybody would have been killed.
Some years later, we sold you slaves for to work on your plantages...
Than you abolished slavery, and we kept sitting with a depot full of
'unsellable' slaves, very funny...Suriname, BonnAire and curacao.
Our hero's were criminals: Piet Hein, pilliger of the Spanish Armada.
What is that stuf about towls?


Ask the people of Paris during the next automobile
barbecue (which is apparently a nightly event, so
you won't have to wait long)... or... you remember
that guy murdered van Gogh.. or that other guy who
assassinated one of your politicians... or when your
embassies were attacked over a couple CARTOONS in
a newspaper (which, by the way, had been reprinted
in Cairo months earlier without any outcry...)...


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Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Dave Crouse]

Could try this one..

while true; do clear;ps r -eo comm,pcpu,pid; sleep 1;done

man ps

for alot more options.

HTH's


On 1/11/08, Kain, Becki (B.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I care because I'm trying to figure out what threads of certain
> processes are continuing to run at 99% of a cpu.  I'd like to know what
> the system is considering "system space" in top's calculation of system
> space.
>
> I'm trying to solve a reoccurring pegging of the cpu's issue.  If there
> is another set of commands that I should be using, please let me know
>
> Thanks
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:51 PM
> To: opensuse@opensuse.org
> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof
>
> On Friday 11 January 2008 10:33, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
> > I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question.
> > When top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used
> > 65.7% by system space, how do I break down what processes are making
> > up that 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you
> > tell which cpu a process id's threads are tied to?
>
> Why do you care?
>
> I tends to shift rapidly, so programs like top that update once per
> second or so can't follow these changes, anyway.
>
> And I don't see how "lsof" is relevant at all.
>
>
> Randall Schulz
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[opensuse] Installing FC8 DomU on Xen

[Manuel Mely]

Hi,

I'm trying to install a guest with Fedora Core 8 from an ISO file, but
doesn't work. It seem that Xen needs some installation file or
something like AutoYast.

I get this error:

Failed to start VM.
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Scott Newton]

On Friday, 11 January 2008 21:46:50 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> Factory is a highly experimental place, you should only go there if you
> want to be a tester, report bugs and help us ;) otherwise your best bet
> is to use 10.3 with KDE packages from the openSUSE buildservice.

Thanks for that. I'll stick with the openSUSE_10.3 one's then :-) 


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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

[Hans Witvliet]

On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 03:50 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 03:12:46 Philippe Landau wrote:
> > Anders Johansson wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 January 2008 02:25:57 Don Raboud wrote:
> > >> Among the options one can set in Acrobat reader is to specify a proxy
> > >> which I usually set to 127.0.0.1 to avoid things like this.  (I am not
> > >> paranoid, just don't like the very idea.)  Of course, being closed
> > >> source one has no idea if acrobat reader honors these settings or not.
> > >
> > > Sure one has. Just use wireshark to see what it does. It can't bypass
> > > that. No need to sit around guessing, or tell scary stories
> > >
> > > I have a hunch lots of people already have done that though, and if it
> > > did bad things, we would have heard about it by now, a lot louder than
> > > vague rumours on mailing lists
> >
> > No need to insult if you follow the provided link there (see below)
> > or do some online research on your own confirming what is
> > now known since over two years.
> 
> By the way, I just discovered that since late 2005, Adobe actually disabled 
> this feature (the feature in question was that acroread let javascript 
> silently download URLs in the background without telling the user- that was 
> how the notification worked)
> 

Disabled it?
You probably mean, they replaced it by other spy-ware.
yesterday and today i was examining why my local dns-server was getting
so much rediculous request.

I have firefox in an sendbox, and al net traffic is supposed to be going
to a proxy. I just had a local dns for handling local intranet-names.

But much to my surprise, allmost each pdf opened within firefox result
in two external name lookups: one for an internal adobe-site and another
for a site related to the content or author of the related pdf.

I took the precaution to disable recursion, but the verya latest reader
from acrobat is still spying on you!!!

hans
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[opensuse] Re: MythTV resolution issues on openSUSE10.3

[Clayton]

Small update on this... this is not only affecting MythTV When I
start MPlayer on the LCD and set the movie to fullscreen, it resizes
as if it was playing on the 1680x1050 TFT.



> Today I decided to upgrade my 10.2 install to 10.3.  Everything has
> gone very well so far with the exception of my MythTV.  I cannot get
> MythTV to start in the right resolution.
>
> The hardware config is
> Screen0 = Acer AL2016W, a 20 inch widescreen TFT monitor
> Screen1 = Toshiba 32L56P widescreen LCD TV with VGA in and a max
> supported VGA resolution of 1024x768
> Video card is an nVidia 7600GS.  The TFT is on VGA port0 and the LCD
> is on VGA port1
>
> I am using the binary drivers from nVidia (installed via the 1-Click
> link on the openSUSE wiki)
>
> The nvidia drivers are installed correctly and tested/working.  The
> TFT and LCD are set up as independent desktops, the TFT at 1680x1050,
> and the LCD at 640x480 (for reasons I've never figured out, the nVidia
> driver refuses to drive the monitor at any higher resolution.  This
> low resolution has been working just fine though for MythTV 0.20 on
> openSUSE10.2).
>
> MythTV version 0.20.2-9 is installed with all its various bits, and
> the MySQL backed is configured and is working.
>
> When I launch mythtvsetup, or mythtvfrontend on the TFT monitor,
> everything works correctly.  The resolution of the TFT is picked up
> and everything loads properly.  When I launch MythTV on the LCD TV, it
> detects the 640x480 resolution, but switches to 1680x1050 resolution
> (instead of scaling to 640x480 like it used to do).  The result is
> that I can only see the top left corner of the MythTV interface.
>
> If I start mythtvsetup (for example) from a terminal this is theoutput:
>
> --
> mythtvsetup
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.469 Using runtime prefix = /usr
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.500 DPMS is disabled.
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.511 New DB connection, total: 1
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.518 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.519 Total desktop dim: 640x480, with 1 screen[s].
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.523 Using screen 0, 1680x1050 at 0,0
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.548 Current Schema Version: 1160
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.560 Total desktop dim: 640x480, with 1 screen[s].
> 2008-01-11 17:40:12.563 Using screen 0, 1680x1050 at 0,0
> ---
> It is picking up on screen0, but I want it to use screen1.
>
> I've done a fair bit of Googling on this, but nothing I've read so far
> is of any help.  in fact, most of the example xorg.conf files look
> pretty much the same as mine does.
>
> Does anyone have any hints for me here?  What am I missing?
>
>
> Relevant parts of my xorg.conf (which is an exact copy of the one I
> used in 10.2, and which worked fine with MythTV on 10.2) are:
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "Layout[all]"
> Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
> InputDevice"Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
> InputDevice"Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
> Option "Clone" "off"
> Option "Xinerama" "off"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor0"
> VendorName "Unknown"
> ModelName  "Acer AL2016W"
> DisplaySize 433271
> HorizSync   31.0 - 84.0
> VertRefresh 56.0 - 86.0
> Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
> Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "Monitor1"
> VendorName "Toshiba"
> ModelName  "CRT-1"
> HorizSync   28.0 - 33.0
> VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Videocard0"
> Driver "nvidia"
> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName  "GeForce 7600 GS"
> BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
> Screen  0
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Videocard1"
> Driver "nvidia"
> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
> BoardName  "GeForce 7600 GS"
> BusID  "PCI:1:0:0"
> Screen  1
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Videocard0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth24
> Option "TwinView" "0"
> Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
> Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: 1680x1050 +0+0; CRT-0: 1600x1024 +0+0; 
> C
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen1"
> Device "Videocard1"
> Monitor"Monitor1"
> DefaultDepth24
> Option "TwinView" "0"
> Option "metamodes" "CRT-1: 640x480 +0+0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Tuesday 2008-01-08 at 15:43 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


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Subject: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard


  **

 in Final CES Keynote

Billie Walsh wrote:

 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>  Fred A. Miller wrote:
> >  Gates Predicts End of the Keyboard in Final CES Keynote
>  Like most of his predictions, this too will be wrong.



Would you please take this thread back to the [opensuse-offtopic] mail 
list?



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Re: [opensuse] BUG - in spamassassin sa-learn causing Kernel Errors

[David C. Rankin]

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> 
> The Thursday 2008-01-10 at 22:47 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
> 
>> Listmates,
> 
>> I don't know whether this is a openSuSE bug or an Apache bug with
>> spamassassin. Spamassassin's sa-learn is doing something that causes
>> kernel errors. Take a look and let me know if I should file it with
>> Novell or Apache. I would normally think it would just be Apache, but if
>> it is getting to the kernel, Novell may be the right place. Here is
>> the log:
> 
> I would start with Bugzilla at Novell. The kernel is involved (Oops),
> and more, even if triggered by anything.
> 

Thanks Carlos, that was kind of what I was thinking.

>> Jan 10 13:00:06 bonza kernel: EIP:0060:[]Tainted:
>> G   N VLI
> 
> Humm! Tainted :-(
> 

How in the heck is my kernel "Tainted"? I haven't let her run around
loosely with anyone.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Friday 2008-01-11 at 12:47 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


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Subject: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?


  ^^^

Please, Aaron, please! Do answer those emails INSIDE the opensuse-offtopic 
mail list, and NOT in the /opensuse/ list!


I believe you are very skilled to fall in that kind of error. Are you 
doing it on purpose? That's quite bad manners!


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] What do you think about this?

[Patrick Shanahan]

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> It's not realistic until an unexpected sound in the
> night makes you wake up in fear for your life
> 

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enough *is* enough

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Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 11 January 2008 10:33, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
> I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question. 
> When top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used
> 65.7% by system space, how do I break down what processes are making
> up that 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you
> tell which cpu a process id's threads are tied to?

Why do you care?

I tends to shift rapidly, so programs like top that update once per 
second or so can't follow these changes, anyway.

And I don't see how "lsof" is relevant at all.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally)

[Patrick Shanahan]

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* Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 12:38]:
> M Harris wrote:
> >On Thursday 10 January 2008 10:25, Anders Johansson wrote:
> >>I can believe it was small, but it was anything but stable
> > The only product that M$ ever put out that was stable was BASIC. Well, 
> > DOS1.2 
> >was also very stable. The only thing M$ can't seem to innovate is stability. 
> >I mean BSOD is even a house-hold word in small developing countries that use 
> >portable generators and batteries as their primary city power source. 
> >
> 
> Sad, but true.

You started this thread in opensuse-offtopic and then improperly cross
posted it here also.  It belongs in opensuse-offtopic as you know.
Please show a littly courtesy and go back to opensuse-offtopic with
any further discussion in this thread.

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[opensuse] complaining vs. constructive criticism: (was Re: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

[Linda Walsh]

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Kevin Dupuy wrote:

On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:53 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

The maintainers for beagle should be taken out and kneecapped,
or beat about the head with a police baton.

Every day


I'm starting to get tired of the hating on Beagle's devs.


Excuse me...has anyone really expressed HATRED towards
the Beagle dev...


Uh...Aaron, YES! :-)
Yes.   You are saying they should be violently beaten every day.



Or have we just been noting that the software suffers
from a VERY SERIOUS DEFICIENCY -- see "Constructive Criticism"


Constructive?  All I see is tearing it down.
Constructive would be looking at the code, making improvements and
patches and sending them into the developer(s).  What have you done that
is not criticism?  Have you constructed any code or have you suggested any
improvements to any specific lines?  What algorithms have you suggested they
use?  I don't mean general comments on behavior -- I mean specific suggestions
that would *help* a developer -- that does not include comparisons to any
closed-source product since the source isn't available.

I keep seeing this topic coming up and wonder why it is still being
discussed?  Have you filed a bug report?  If so, what more do you expect at
this point?  Have you tried making it from source?  Have you figured out
where and why it slows down?  What routine, function or line of code?
Have you created a test case?  Is it repeatable?


"hating on" should be banished from the English language,
because it is so widely abused by people who can't handle
the fact that not everything or everybody is worthy of
pure, unqualified praise now and forever.

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Ask any software project owners if I'm *ever* guilty of
unqualified praise!  I complain more than *most*, but I submit specific
bugs with test cases as well.  If necessary, and the developer appears
'swamped' and if it is important enough to me, I try making the product
from the source RPMS and see if I can find out what is causing my
problem.

But before I start ragging on developers to "fix" something,
I first ask if others have seen it.  If it is not a universal experience,
I start looking at 'why'.  How do you know it isn't specific to certain
pieces of hardware?  As one example of a "bug-in-progress" that I
haven't reported to anyone outside myself is "rotten performance
copying a file from a WinXP box to an x86_64-linux box.  I get
an average speed of 771K/s -- over a 1Gigabit ethernet. I'm using
"scp".

Should I complain to the author of "scp" that my performance
sucks?

I could, but I'd look pretty stupid.  I bit of investigation
on my own shows: WinXP->ia32-linux, average 10MB/s, and ia32->x86_64
(the same target that was slow from WinXP) averages 12.9MB/s.  So who
do I complain to?  Do I rag on the author of "scp" on the "opensuse"
mailing list?  Who do I scream at -- because 771K/s is obviously
*BAD*...
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RE: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Kain, Becki (B.)]

 
I care because I'm trying to figure out what threads of certain
processes are continuing to run at 99% of a cpu.  I'd like to know what
the system is considering "system space" in top's calculation of system
space.  

I'm trying to solve a reoccurring pegging of the cpu's issue.  If there
is another set of commands that I should be using, please let me know

Thanks


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To: opensuse@opensuse.org
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On Friday 11 January 2008 10:33, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
> I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question. 
> When top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used
> 65.7% by system space, how do I break down what processes are making
> up that 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you
> tell which cpu a process id's threads are tied to?

Why do you care?

I tends to shift rapidly, so programs like top that update once per 
second or so can't follow these changes, anyway.

And I don't see how "lsof" is relevant at all.


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[opensuse] KDE4 Final on 10.3 - Any Caveats ???

[Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)]

Hi all,


KDE4 final is just released. Anyone have installed it? Any caveats or 
unexpected side effects?

Positive feedback is welcome too :-)))
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Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs (WAS:Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3 )

[Patrick Shanahan]

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* Manuel Mely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 14:58]:
> Yes my headphones are physically connected. 

I did not mean the headphones, the ports.  But the statements below
demonstrate connection.

> And i don't have to make any change in cmos setting... i was using
> this plugs in Ubuntu Guty, 3 days ago before migrating tu OpenSuSe.
> Any other tip? Maybe some module to load in modprobe.conf? 

I do not know.  I use the rear ports on my box and have surround sound
that appears to work properly.  I didn't have to make any changes or
"special" settings or manually load other drivers/modules.

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Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs (WAS:Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3 )

[Patrick Shanahan]

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* Manuel Mely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 14:03]:
> Well, i installed alsa 1.0.15, i can use the plugs that are back of
> the chasis, but i would like to use the ones that are front of it.

IF you are certain that they are physically connected from the mb,
check your cmos settings.

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Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs (WAS:Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3 )

[Manuel Mely]

Yes my headphones are physically connected. And i don't have to make
any change in cmos setting... i was using this plugs in Ubuntu Guty, 3
days ago before migrating tu OpenSuSe.
Any other tip? Maybe some module to load in modprobe.conf?
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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Final on 10.3 - Any Caveats ???

[Pete Connolly]

On Friday 11 January 2008 21:08:16 Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> KDE4 final is just released. Anyone have installed it? Any caveats or
> unexpected side effects?
>
> Positive feedback is welcome too :-)))

Hi Andrei

I've been looking at KDE4 on oss 10.3 for a while now, and the final release 
(updated today) is looking very good.  It's not at the level where I'd tell 
someone to stop using KDE 3.5x for everyday use, but it's stable, 
configurable and usable.  My big problem is with kdevelop from 3.x with the 
scripting profile - I'm seeing a lot of session crashes that I can't track 
down.  I don't think a native kdevelop for 4.x is available (I could be 
wrong).

Having said that, I've started to migrate my 3.5x settings to 4.00, such as 
kmail, kopete contacts and settings etc.  It's different, but the change is 
very nice, fresh and welcome.  I see the point behind the whole development 
effort now, and I'm enthused by the possibilities for the future of KDE.  I 
should think by 4.01 I'll have changed over entirely (fingers crossed).

Congratulations to all the opensuse KDE team, you've done a great job and you 
should be suitably proud of your efforts. The desktop looks really clean and 
smart (once I'd moved all the icons from the centre of the screen!) and the 
whole 'feel' of the system is fast, snappy and modern.  Top job all around!

Cheers

Pete


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[opensuse] Top/lsof

[Kain, Becki (B.)]

I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question.  When
 top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used 65.7%
 by system space, how do I break down what processes are making up that
 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you tell which
 cpu a process id's threads are tied to?
 
 Tia

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Re: [opensuse] Installing "wink" to capture streaming video

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:03:03 +0100, peter wrote:

>Call me stupid but I still don't see the point of having src.rpm w/o a
>source inside.

How would you otherwise build installable RPMs which you *need* to make
a package cleanly and reliably installable and deinstallable and be able
to manage dependencies, at least in a distribution like openSUSE that's
based on RPMs? 

The *only* viable way is by using a .spec to install files and then let
them be packaged in one or more binary RPMs. The original files
including the .spec file are automatically packaged as .src.rpm. How
else do you think we create installable the RPMs for Adobe acrobat or
Opera for which there also is no source code?

Please think about it a bit more and it should be obvious why you need
.src.rpm no matter if you got sources to compile or simply files to
install. With your reasoning, it would also make no sense to put a
bundle of shell scripts into a .src.rpm.

>Still you do not explain why using src.rpm instead of rpm!

Because you're not allowed to distribute the software as a directly
installable RPM? A .src.rpm allows you to build such a package for
yourself.

>Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.

Me, problems? I tend to disagree with you :)

Who wrote that he doubts that such a package would be available? Who
ridiculed me without checking first? Definitely not me!

Its the same everywhere: you should be able to prove your claims before
stating them in the public otherwise people will stop believing what you
say.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE_10.3 vs openSUSE_Factory

[Philipp Thomas]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:47:55 +0100 (CET), Carlos E. R. wrote:

>> And generally enjoy living on the bleeding edge -)
>
>Better stress that of "bleeding" ;-)

Well,  living on the bleeding edge does imply you'll bleed now and then
:) I used to like that too some time ago, but nowadays it suffices to
take part in developing that bleeding edge as part of my daytime job and
enjoy a stable system for in leisure time :)

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Final on 10.3 - Any Caveats ???

[Christopher Dick]

- Original Message 
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Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Final on 10.3 - Any Caveats ???


On Friday 11 January 2008 21:08:16 Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> KDE4 final is just released. Anyone have installed it? Any caveats or
> unexpected side effects?
>
> Positive feedback is welcome too :-)))

Hi Andrei

I've been looking at KDE4 on oss 10.3 for a while now, and the final
 release 
(updated today) is looking very good.  It's not at the level where I'd
 tell 
someone to stop using KDE 3.5x for everyday use, but it's stable, 
configurable and usable.  My big problem is with kdevelop from 3.x with
 the 
scripting profile - I'm seeing a lot of session crashes that I can't
 track 
down.  I don't think a native kdevelop for 4.x is available (I could be
 
wrong).

Having said that, I've started to migrate my 3.5x settings to 4.00,
 such as 
kmail, kopete contacts and settings etc.  It's different, but the
 change is 
very nice, fresh and welcome.  I see the point behind the whole
 development 
effort now, and I'm enthused by the possibilities for the future of
 KDE.  I 
should think by 4.01 I'll have changed over entirely (fingers crossed).

Congratulations to all the opensuse KDE team, you've done a great job
 and you 
should be suitably proud of your efforts. The desktop looks really
 clean and 
smart (once I'd moved all the icons from the centre of the screen!) and
 the 
whole 'feel' of the system is fast, snappy and modern.  Top job all
 around!

Cheers

Pete


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I just installed it, and I have to say, its certainly pretty.  I was never a 
big fan of the sliding menu, but I am sure I will get used to it.  My biggest 
issue was with dual-head monitor and a spanned desktop.  All of my icons got 
dumped to the secondary monitor and couldn't drag them over to the primary.  
Instead, they slid off the wallpaper and the wallpaper started scrolling off 
the other side of the screen.  I am sure by reading through some docs I can 
figure that out, too, but it just seemed strange.  Until I figure that one out, 
I will go back to 3.5 for my everyday stuff.

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Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 11 January 2008 12:35, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
> I care because I'm trying to figure out what threads of certain
> processes are continuing to run at 99% of a cpu.  I'd like to know
> what the system is considering "system space" in top's calculation of
> system space.
>
> I'm trying to solve a reoccurring pegging of the cpu's issue.  If
> there is another set of commands that I should be using, please let
> me know

None of that has anything to do with which CPU is executing any given 
thread at any particular moment.


> Thanks


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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users

[David C. Rankin]

Hans Witvliet wrote:

> 
> Disabled it?
> You probably mean, they replaced it by other spy-ware.
> yesterday and today i was examining why my local dns-server was getting
> so much rediculous request.
> 
> I have firefox in an sendbox, and al net traffic is supposed to be going
> to a proxy. I just had a local dns for handling local intranet-names.
> 
> But much to my surprise, allmost each pdf opened within firefox result
> in two external name lookups: one for an internal adobe-site and another
> for a site related to the content or author of the related pdf.
> 
> I took the precaution to disable recursion, but the verya latest reader
> from acrobat is still spying on you!!!
> 
> hans

Yes, and I bet there peaved when they seem more .pdfs created by
'ghostscript to ps2pdf' than acrobat.

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Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Aaron Kulkis]

Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:

I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question.  When
 top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used 65.7%
 by system space, how do I break down what processes are making up that
 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you tell which
 cpu a process id's threads are tied to?


One, you can't
Two, it doesn't matter much.

"sys" merely correlates to time spent executing
system-calls (i.e. kernal calls), whereas "user"
correlates to the time spent executing code outside
of the kernel.


As far as lsof... try this:

ps -ef | grep lsof

once you get the PID of the lsof process(es), you
can grep for them:

ps -ef | grep _PID_of_lsof_goes_here


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[opensuse] KDE4 - Two Questions

[Scott Newton]

Hello

I've installed KDE4 from the openSUSE_10.3 packages. I now have two questions:
1.) The kicker equivalent panel crashed on me. I've restarting the session but 
it still won't come back. How do I get it back? I can get the individual 
widgets (Pager,  Task Manager,  System Tray etc) but not the container.
2) Where would be the best place to log bug reports/wishlists? 
bugzilla.novell.com or bugs.kde.org?

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Re: [opensuse] kde and the kate editor [SOLVED]

[David C. Rankin]

Wendell Nichols wrote:
> Kate drives me nuts.  Its a good editor but every time you right click
> to edit a file in konqueror using kate it starts a new window.  If I use
> a command window and specify --use it will "reuse" an existing window if
> one is started for the session I specify.  However because kdeinit
> starts it I cannot pass a parm through konqueror. 
> So I get 30 kate windows on my desktop when all I want is one.  Ideally
> I'd like kate to open the file I've chosen in the instance of kate which
> is already open ON THAT DESKTOP.
> 
> Has anyone figured this out?
> Sorry if this is an inappropriate forum... well not all that sorry
> wcn

Forwarded from Anders Lund kate development:

You can have Kate reuse an instance by adding "-u" (or "--use" to the
command line. For usage from within KDE, for example konqueror, edit the
properties for the Kate application.

You can read more in the online help (help:/kate) and at Kates website
at www.kate-editor.org

 Added by me -

In kde, just open menu editor, select kate and add --use to the command
line after "kate %U". The command line will read: "kate %U --use"

Works like a charm!

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[opensuse] KDE 4 opensuse repo?

[Chris Arnold]

I want to install 10.3 on a test drive and during that install of 10.3, 
install kde4 from opensuse repo. I look through KDE on opensuse and see 
KDE Backports
KDE Core Packages
KDE Community
KDE Playground
KDE 4

Which one do i use to get stable KDE4? Or do you have to get it from KDE.org?
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Re: [opensuse] [SOLVED]KDE 4 opensuse repo?

[Chris Arnold]

On Friday 11 January 2008 06:28:52 pm Chris Arnold wrote:
> I want to install 10.3 on a test drive and during that install of 10.3,
> install kde4 from opensuse repo. I look through KDE on opensuse and see
> KDE Backports
> KDE Core Packages
> KDE Community
> KDE Playground
> KDE 4
>
> Which one do i use to get stable KDE4? Or do you have to get it from
> KDE.org?

Sorry, i found it.
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Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs (WAS:Problems compiling alsa-driver 1.0.15 on Opensuse 10.3 )

[Aaron Kulkis]

Manuel Mely wrote:

Yes my headphones are physically connected. And i don't have to make
any change in cmos setting... i was using this plugs in Ubuntu Guty, 3
days ago before migrating tu OpenSuSe.


Are the PLUGS physically connected between the
front of the chassis and the sound card or MB?


Any other tip? Maybe some module to load in modprobe.conf?




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Re: [opensuse] complaining vs. constructive criticism: (was Re: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

[Aaron Kulkis]

Linda Walsh wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Kevin Dupuy wrote:

On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:53 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

The maintainers for beagle should be taken out and kneecapped,
or beat about the head with a police baton.

Every day


I'm starting to get tired of the hating on Beagle's devs.


Excuse me...has anyone really expressed HATRED towards
the Beagle dev...


Uh...Aaron, YES! :-)
Yes.   You are saying they should be violently beaten every day.



That would just be motivation to improve!


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Re: [opensuse] I can't hear nothing using front plugs

[Ed Harrison]

>
> Well, i installed alsa 1.0.15, i can use the plugs that are back of
> the chasis, but i would like to use the ones that are front of it.
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I use module CA0106 for a SoundBlaster Audigy.  It creates an alsa mixer
(Volume Control) that has various speaker options under
Edit>>Preferences.  I have the rear, side and center speakers unchecked
because I have only 2 speakers.  Have you looked at the Volume Control
for these types of options?

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[opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Chris Arnold]

Just installed 10.3 on test drive with the default KDE. Then installed KDE4 and 
when running the one-click, i got:
 YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2008-01-11 20:15:39 

No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
With this run only resolvables with the best architecture have been 
regarded.
Regarding all possible resolvables takes time, but can come to a valid 
result.
Conflict Resolution:
( ) Make a solver run with ALL possibilities.
kde4-okular cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of libchm.so.0 for 
kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4]
=== kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] ===
kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] will be installed by another 
application. (ApplLow/ApplHigh)
freetype2-2.3.5-18.i586 is needed by kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] 
(libfreetype.so.6)
libtiff3-3.8.2-68.i586 is needed by kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] 
(libtiff.so.3)
5 more...
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kde4-okular
(x) Ignore this requirement just here

 YaST2 conflicts list END ###

As you can see, for now, i just said ignore. Did anyone else see this conflict?
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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Chris Arnold]

Umm, after a reboot, it looks like i still have 3.5.7 kde

Just installed 10.3 on test drive with the default KDE. Then installed KDE4 and 
when running the one-click, i got:
 YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2008-01-11 20:15:39 

No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
With this run only resolvables with the best architecture have been 
regarded.
Regarding all possible resolvables takes time, but can come to a valid 
result.
Conflict Resolution:
( ) Make a solver run with ALL possibilities.
kde4-okular cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of libchm.so.0 for 
kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4]
=== kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] ===
kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] will be installed by another 
application. (ApplLow/ApplHigh)
freetype2-2.3.5-18.i586 is needed by kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] 
(libfreetype.so.6)
libtiff3-3.8.2-68.i586 is needed by kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] 
(libtiff.so.3)
5 more...
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kde4-okular
(x) Ignore this requirement just here

 YaST2 conflicts list END ###

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 11 January 2008 07:21:33 pm Chris Arnold wrote:
> Just installed 10.3 on test drive with the default KDE. Then installed KDE4
> and when running the one-click, i got:  YaST2 conflicts list -
> generated 2008-01-11 20:15:39 
>
> No valid solution found with just resolvables of best architecture.
> With this run only resolvables with the best architecture have been
> regarded. Regarding all possible resolvables takes time, but can come to a
> valid result. Conflict Resolution:
> ( ) Make a solver run with ALL possibilities.
> kde4-okular cannot be installed due to missing dependencies
> There are no installable providers of libchm.so.0 for
> kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] === kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4]
> ===
> kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] will be installed by another
> application. (ApplLow/ApplHigh) freetype2-2.3.5-18.i586 is needed by
> kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4] (libfreetype.so.6)
> libtiff3-3.8.2-68.i586 is needed by kde4-okular-4.0-1.3.i586[KDE:KDE4]
> (libtiff.so.3) 5 more...
> Conflict Resolution:
> ( ) do not install kde4-okular
> (x) Ignore this requirement just here
>
>  YaST2 conflicts list END ###
>
> As you can see, for now, i just said ignore. Did anyone else see this
> conflict?

Aha (ie. yes) :-)

# rpm -q --whatprovides libchm.so.0
chmlib-0.39-40

# zypper if chmlib

Information for package chmlib:

Repository: Main Repository (OSS)
Name: chmlib
Version: 0.39-40
Arch: i586
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 61.2 K
Summary: A library for dealing with ITSS/CHM files
Description:

CHMLIB is a library for dealing with Microsoft ITSS/CHM format files.


The missing package, and the other listed, are in Main oss repository. 
Add KDE4 to YaST, reset all ignored dependencies in dropdown menu Extras, 
otherwise they will be ignored and KDE4 will be useless, and try to install 
package kde4-meta-default Avail.Ver. should show 4.0-.

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Re: [opensuse] Flac to mp3

[Adolph & Sharon Weidanz]

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> Is there a program to do the above? And if so what is it?
> 

Soundkonverter works extremely well.. I use it for all my audio
conversions, as it is a front end for most, if not all of the different
formats.

http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/soundKonverter?content=29024&PHPSESSID=c5a406d0b4cbdd26f19cc0344665a230


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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

[Bob S]

On Friday 11 January 2008 04:49:09 am Philipp Thomas wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:
> >I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly.
> > From these directions
>
> Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.

Not true. Anytime you do an install of a package it just knows. If you do a 
search it will ask you which one you want.

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Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

[Aaron Kulkis]

Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
 
I care because I'm trying to figure out what threads of certain

processes are continuing to run at 99% of a cpu.  I'd like to know what
the system is considering "system space" in top's calculation of system
space.


when you run top, the default configuration is to
order processes by CPU time during the latest
observation time (1 second by default).

and it's not system SPACE, it's the amount of
TIME spent executing kernel code (as opposed
to non-kernal code which is "user"



I'm trying to solve a reoccurring pegging of the cpu's issue.  If there
is another set of commands that I should be using, please let me know


Pegging the CPU's is not necessarily a problem.
It just means that the current mix of processes
is CPU bound (which is normally a GOOD thing!)

Idle time only occurs when an I/O-bound process
is waiting for I/O to complete)and that's
wasted CPU cycles.

A pegged CPU means that the CPU is actually
working to its full potential.

The only time it's an issue is if the computer
is used interactively (i.e. not a compute server,
such as running FEA or CFD jobs) ***AND***
the interactive interface is too sluggish.

A much more significant problem is one that we
had when I was at KMart headquarters about 10
years ago.


New distribution-center inventory/management
system...on an Informix Database, and 4-CPU
HP 9000 series machine---Running VERY slowly.
Idle time was about 95%.  Against my advice,
management threw in 4 MORE CPUS...now we had
an 8 CPU box running at 97.5% idle

The problem turned out to be that the
database part of the application was wrong.
This installation was at a warehouse over
10x larger than any previous installaitions
of the software -- And entire tables of the
database (30,000+ rows typical) were being
put under exclusive lock (no READS allowed!)
because the original programmer was lazy.

Once this was discovered, the software was
debugged, replacing table locks with code
locking individual rows.

Once this was done, CPU usage WENT UP...
which was a GOOD THING(tm)! *AND* we
were able to reduce the number of CPUs
to only two (and that was just for
redundancy... CPU usage was still
less than 1/N where N is the number
of installed CPUs.






Thanks


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From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:51 PM

To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Top/lsof

On Friday 11 January 2008 10:33, Kain, Becki (B.) wrote:
I read the man page of top but it's not helpful for this question. 
When top tells me cpu0 is being used 50.0% by sys, cpu1 is being used

65.7% by system space, how do I break down what processes are making
up that 65.7%, in system space, of the cpu?  And in lsof, how do you
tell which cpu a process id's threads are tied to?


Why do you care?

I tends to shift rapidly, so programs like top that update once per 
second or so can't follow these changes, anyway.


And I don't see how "lsof" is relevant at all.


Randall Schulz




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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

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* Bob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 21:52]:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 04:49:09 am Philipp Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> > happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> > destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.
> 
> Not true. Anytime you do an install of a package it just knows. If you do a 
> search it will ask you which one you want.


No, smart will hickup occasionally and requires attention.  But it
does not happen often and usually relates to an incorrect package.  I
have 25 or 30 packages (particular versions) locked to keep i586
packages from being installed on my x86_64 system.  Packages where
there are x86_64 packages which may have been presented late.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Chris Arnold]

Aha (ie. yes) :-)

# rpm -q --whatprovides libchm.so.0
chmlib-0.39-40

# zypper if chmlib

Information for package chmlib:

Repository: Main Repository (OSS)
Name: chmlib
Version: 0.39-40
Arch: i586
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 61.2 K
Summary: A library for dealing with ITSS/CHM files
Description:

CHMLIB is a library for dealing with Microsoft ITSS/CHM format files.


The missing package, and the other listed, are in Main oss repository. 
Add KDE4 to YaST, reset all ignored dependencies in dropdown menu Extras, 
otherwise they will be ignored and KDE4 will be useless, and try to install 
package kde4-meta-default Avail.Ver. should show 4.0-.


I installed the 2 "ignored" packages. Reset the ignored dependencies in yast. I 
don't see kde4-meta-default anywhere (in opensuse repo using benjiweber or in 
yast with kde4 added).


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[opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

[PerfectReign]

On my laptop, I'm running Wintendo Vista and VMWare with openSUSE 10.3
as the guest. I'm wondering - and I've googled this - how do I mount
the host filesystem so I can do stuff. I want to burn a DVD with
openSUSE, since there are no good tools in Windows to do this which
match K3B.

Ideas?

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 11 January 2008 08:59:37 pm Chris Arnold wrote:
> I don't see kde4-meta-default anywhere (in opensuse repo using benjiweber
> or in yast with kde4 added).

OK. My bad. The last version that I see is 3.94. 

Try to install using Filter:Patterns. 
I can see almost all installed and up to date in KDE 4.0 Desktop Environment 
Pattern and some packages in KDE 4.0 Games.  

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Conflict

[Chris Arnold]

On Friday 11 January 2008 10:31:25 pm Rajko M. wrote:
> OK. My bad. The last version that I see is 3.94.
>
> Try to install using Filter:Patterns.
> I can see almost all installed and up to date in KDE 4.0 Desktop
> Environment Pattern and some packages in KDE 4.0 Games.

I got it now. Thanks for your help
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[opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

[Chris Arnold]

The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. 
In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 
list new apps?
Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?
Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and 
did not launch.
Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

[Kai Ponte]

On Fri, January 11, 2008 7:25 pm, John Andersen wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2008 7:19 PM, PerfectReign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On my laptop, I'm running Wintendo Vista and VMWare with openSUSE
>> 10.3
>> as the guest. I'm wondering - and I've googled this - how do I mount
>> the host filesystem so I can do stuff. I want to burn a DVD with
>> openSUSE, since there are no good tools in Windows to do this which
>> match K3B.
>>
>> Ideas?
> cifsmount

Thanks.

That'd be great if I were (a) using the command line and (b) mounting
a cifs volume (which I do already with smb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What about inside VMWare?

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Re: [opensuse] One click install

[Kevin Dupuy]

On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 17:51 +, peter nikolic wrote:
> Now   then maybe i have missed something recently but !  i keep seeing stuff 
> about one klick install and have several .ymp modules that arrive when i try 
> to install software  the latest being  the KDE4 release   "KDE4-BASIS.ymp" 
> now question  How the heck do i get these to actually do something  ?  cus i 
> cant get a thing so far ..
> 
> 
> CheersPete .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an
> Apache inside.)

If you're running 10.3, make sure package "YaST Meta Installer" is
installed.
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[opensuse] Banning verbal violence (was: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

[Philippe Landau]

I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to 
violence and torture ?


I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and 
torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant 
glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect 
open source software mailinglists.


Kind regards Philippe

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Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Gary Baribault wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone else seeing Beagle really kill performance? I have disabled
it and my machine finally is perky, but every now and then, I find it
in memory again. How do I arange it to chew up less memory and CPU or
kill it once and for all?


You can't.

It's one of the stupidest pieces of software that I've ever
seen in my entire 27 years of computing.  Even putting it at
the lowest priority "nice" value doesn't help, because the
damn thing floods the disk drive with a constant stream of
disk-head seeks, which interferes with any other process's
attempts to use the disk drive by making it basically, stand
in line with all of beagle's worthless disk I/O requests.

The maintainers for beagle should be taken out and kneecapped,
or beat about the head with a police baton.

Every day

Until they remove every trace of it from human existence,
except for snippets preserved for teaching purposes, under
the topic of "DO NOT DO THESE THINGS in a background services
programs"




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Re: [opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

[Rajko M.]

On Friday 11 January 2008 09:45:54 pm Chris Arnold wrote:
> The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the
> kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed.
> Does kde4 list new apps?

Probably after menu restart. I guess application is klauncher. I tried to kill 
it, but it was immediately started again. Just blink, and new PID will tell 
that is replaced.

> Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)? 

See link below. 

> Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks
> and did not launch. 

It seems that 'trash:' , 'sysinfo:' ,'remote:' are not yet functional. 

> Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.

You'll find more information about status:
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4

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[opensuse] VirtualBox & XP-pro & serial madness

[Tom Patton]

This is retrospective of what I think went wrong...

Having given up on dos6.22, I was pleased with the install of xp guest,
until I got to the serial needs.  Try as I might, I could not get the
open-source to talk to the "real" ttyS0 in "master", or the belkin
converter as ttyUSB0 in my thinkpad...

I have an extreme headache, having to reach back into foggy memory to
deal with windoz, but that's another story.  

I finally realized that I had installed the XP-guest in master while NOT
having the VB serial support turned "on", so XP didn't bother to install
ANY com ports.  When I manually installed them in the running guest,
they became com3 and com4, and finally worked.  Very nicely, BTW.

Doing the same "fix" in the Thinkpad, did NOT work, as it appears VB can
not deal with a virtual copy of ttyUSB0 and hand it off to the guest as
a "com" port.  In fact, most attempts at booting the guest with serial
enabled would result in an aborted boot of XP.

I then installed the "closed-source" VB (for the USB support), and after
some more head scratching, and finding the Belkin driver for XP on the
Internet, I can now see the USB-232 converter directly in XP as com4.

(I must leave serial support turned off, and rely on the USB and XP
Belkin driver.)

WAHOO.  I can now use an ancient program at work to align MDS Link
radios.

What a pain.

Tom in NM


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