[osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Hi all, Some time back I floated the idea that we needed to get our act together to present a OSDC.my as a knowledgeable and articulate group. The branding exercise is a good move, but how many of us can answer in an effective and coherent way when someone asks, What is OSDC.my and what does it do?. This is important as we grow from more than just a group of socially awkward and acerbic geeks into an organisation that can be a source of smart, capable and effective FOSS professionals in turn can be fed into the FOSS needs of the market. It will be catastrophic if we cannot even be articulate in making a case of, What is OSDC.my?. Thus we can forget about being taken seriously, much less be considered for sponsorship. The About page at http://202.190.177.148/about gives an excellent introduction of OSDC.my. Since we are looking at making it, may we consider changing the word Club to maybe Committee? (or something better? Any ideas?). Tun Mahathir may have launched a Club, isn't it about time we grow to something better? A club, unless you are Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal, doesn't carry the same weight of being a serious player for talents nor someplace I will go for paid professionals. It doesn't help if the general perception of FOSS is free as in teh-o ais limau kurang manis(!) and in come a FOSS club?! Simple said you want the $$$ the word club may not be suitable. It is time for us to grow from geeks who gets boners playing with FOSS to people who are articulate, professional and radiates confidence and positive energy. So perhaps I can humbly put forward my suggested pitch to answer What is OSDC.my? Here we go, my 3 -minute pitch: *The Malaysian Open Source Development Club is a non-governmental grassroot movement by concerned Malaysians to bring together the best FOSS talents in Malaysia to work and share our talents in making FOSS a compelling computing platform for all Malaysians. We believe that FOSS is a great opportunity equaliser, greatly lowers the entrance barriers for businesses and allows us to be more competitive to easily and legally share the fruits of our labour with the world. OSDC.my aims to be a one-stop reference for all FOSS talents, references and coordinate all efforts to promote FOSS in Malaysia. * Please do comment constructively. Time is fast approaching MOSC 2011. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Let us not go there mate... :) Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Actually what I mean is, the word Committee is better in terms of business than the word Club Mau sapu 50M also easier. :P -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch
Red, While I agree the name change may seem trivial when looking at the grand scheme of things; however, an identity change may set the right frame of mind to get going in the right direction. As I have said, I am floating around ideas. I think OSDC.my can be the lynch-pin for FOSS activities in the country, but first we need to what we stand for and how would we position the brand. Is it a geeks only club or are we to project an image that is more business friendly? Business friendly is synonymous with getting more mulla in our coffers. It is also means we will not be treated as an after thought when it comes to FOSS. As I have mentioned in another thread, I am willing to work on this branding exercise. So far nobody has stepped forward to assist or to begin the branding suggestion. So once again; who is willing to help? Enough of talk already. It's time to get off our collective fat asses and get something moving. Eric On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:55 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork. After that, screaming, screaming, screaming - to defend your paper of course in front of a few goofballs who has no idea of anything before the dollar sign. On 5/8/11 8:19 AM, Garfield WTF wrote: I agree with changing the word club to committee. In fact, this is the word I used when I told ppl about OSDC, and I almost forget the C, is actually club. Anyway, changing the C to Committee can in fact build the public confidence on us. For an example, the MOSC, sponsors will be more willing to channel a huge amount of money into the event if it is organized by a committee of IT professionals rather than channeling the money into a Club which giving them an impression that Club is something like a group of professionals hang around for leisure during free time only. So it would strongly agree with the changes of the word C. -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the RD divisions in the Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and practical cloud for the Public Sector. MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything innovative that is visible and viable. In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale. Malaysia Boleh. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing. Private cloud still need infra. Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness
Let's set up a Kumpulan Peminat Bastard Eric On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Huh... Eric I'm up to be the biggest bastard ever! TC apply... ask red1 he teach me good... rafe On Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: I am willing to work together with you in this, if there is no one stopping me from doing so. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-informati... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia’s stand and position at the International ISO Standard Committee on Open Source Technology - MOSTI
Statement nowadays from the Putrajaya regime is more fluff than substance with a hint of them under the influence of some substance. Eric On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: It really means nothing. It really takes talent in making up so much words but say absolutely nothing we all did not know already. Eric I totally agree. It's a very political statement. They won't take any sides until there's a clear favorite. It's disappointing, and even a little insulting, to people who care a great deal about certain issues, but it's what politicians do. -- *Ghodmode* http://www.ghodmode.com/blog On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, One of the MOSTI respond http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/breakingviews/article/mostis-response-to-ditesh-gathani/ Malaysia’s stand and position at the International ISO Standard Committee on Open Source Technology: On November 21, 2006, the former minister of science, technology and innovation announced that the government was adopting a neutral technology platform policy that does not favour either open source software (OSS) or proprietary software, and that government procurement policy is now based on merit and not on platform choice. This position does not void Mampu's open source software and MOSTI believes that it is important to support both the proprietary and open-source development model in procurement practices because both are sources of innovation that the government has an interest in encouraging. The government has large varieties of IT systems, each of which is tailored to the needs of individual departments. These departments need to communicate, and this is facilitated, to a certain extent, by the use of open interoperability protocols and common, open data formats. Thus, the right solution is to make no preference with respect to open-source or proprietary software, instead, favouring open protocols and data formats. In fact, the suggestion by the author for the government to intervene and favour one versus the other is in itself contradicting the author’s own comments to let the software ecosystem be as it is and compete on their own. -- Malaysia Open Source Software Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 http://www.mosc.my/ LinuxMalaysia Network http://www.facebook.com/Bukan.Sekadar.Internet.Sahaja Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness
Haris, I know the feeling, I only have one kid at the moment and with work commitments + family there is not a whole lot of time I can give to FOSS. But I am willing to try. Who is willing to work with me? Eric On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon. Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could do to make this community move and growth. But sadly, we lack of leadership. We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing things. But who the takers? Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager. Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young as before. E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :) Others - Senyap aje... We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but no taker. So what I'm doing now? Provoking In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan. I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my friend and I will not judge a person. This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give that... My borrowed time soon be over. and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the foundation right. I do agree with you Eric. We need to focus. Thank you. On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: You guys perhaps misunderstood me. Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to ApOGEE's talents and hard work. What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, WTF is OSDC.my?. What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is the 5-minute pitch we sell to techies? If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these things are necessary evils. We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it will just be a social organisation. Is that what OSDC.my will become? Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good guys get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things forward? Eric On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip... Kelip-kelip as --- Apogee comment in FB MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada lebih ramai... wahlau Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482 --- So all more feedback needed. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting? 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n company will do the job.(or any other idea :D ) 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot.. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Lets start at things that we can work out together 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others. 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project. Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :) 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as key for our country innovation 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time. 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a branding exercise. It is part of an identity. Eric -- -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness
You guys perhaps misunderstood me. Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to ApOGEE's talents and hard work. What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, WTF is OSDC.my?. What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is the 5-minute pitch we sell to techies? If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these things are necessary evils. We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it will just be a social organisation. Is that what OSDC.my will become? Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good guys get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things forward? Eric On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip... Kelip-kelip as --- Apogee comment in FB MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada lebih ramai... wahlau Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482 --- So all more feedback needed. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting? 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n company will do the job.(or any other idea :D ) 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot.. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Lets start at things that we can work out together 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others. 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project. Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :) 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as key for our country innovation 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time. 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a branding exercise. It is part of an identity. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative. Morons! Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal eafai...@gmail.com wrote: My concern is the phrase secure communication with the government. The MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national security standpoint, this is very so insecure. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia. imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the participating govt agencies (no need to register). example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email. in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my browser displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id and password, then can pay for the bill. that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to maintain usernames / accounts / passwords for the hundreds of agencies. now we will have a platform to implement 'single sign-on' we had myeg, rileks which acted as single portal to govt agencies - but this worked on a centralised portal concept. with a single sign-on, we can have a distributed concept. so now the opportunity are for 1. web developers among us, to figure out how to make our portals / web apps to work with this myemail id. 2. os developers among us, to figure out how to make windows live id to work on non-windows client machines see example for drupal : http://drupal.org/project/winliveid this single sign-on would be great for one of my past clients, where we had to request guests to register, then someone in the agency to check that the information is valid before approving the registration, then we also had to have features like recalling lost password / etc. with myemail.my, we could just ask them to logon using their current id, and we could have that automatically authenticated. no need to re-register and try to remember the password for so many websites. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia’s stand and position at the International ISO Standard Committee on Open Source Technology - MOSTI
It really means nothing. It really takes talent in making up so much words but say absolutely nothing we all did not know already. Eric On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, One of the MOSTI respond http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/breakingviews/article/mostis-response-to-ditesh-gathani/ Malaysia’s stand and position at the International ISO Standard Committee on Open Source Technology: On November 21, 2006, the former minister of science, technology and innovation announced that the government was adopting a neutral technology platform policy that does not favour either open source software (OSS) or proprietary software, and that government procurement policy is now based on merit and not on platform choice. This position does not void Mampu's open source software and MOSTI believes that it is important to support both the proprietary and open-source development model in procurement practices because both are sources of innovation that the government has an interest in encouraging. The government has large varieties of IT systems, each of which is tailored to the needs of individual departments. These departments need to communicate, and this is facilitated, to a certain extent, by the use of open interoperability protocols and common, open data formats. Thus, the right solution is to make no preference with respect to open-source or proprietary software, instead, favouring open protocols and data formats. In fact, the suggestion by the author for the government to intervene and favour one versus the other is in itself contradicting the author’s own comments to let the software ecosystem be as it is and compete on their own. -- Malaysia Open Source Software Conference 2011 MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 http://www.mosc.my/ LinuxMalaysia Network http://www.facebook.com/Bukan.Sekadar.Internet.Sahaja Harisfazillah Jamel -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness
Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a branding exercise. It is part of an identity. Eric On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:23 AM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote: to much we have to standardise... MOSC = Community or conference FOSS@OSS@FLOSS? Linux or GNU/Linux? On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Also we need to even standardise on the term; are we to use OSS or FOSS? I personally prefer FLOSS or FOSS as it is more inclusive. Open Source doesn't necessarily mean Free Software; since only GPL/LGPL are considered truly free licenses as per to FSF. Eric On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: MOSC both can be used, community and conference. Its ours as community. Kami dalam core hanya pemegang amanah (fiduciary). I hope we can hand it over into larger group and official committee. Until then, we do our best. Back to our main topic. For branding OSS as software, as brand as whole brand... So we can market its properly and better planning. Microsoft has strong branding in Malaysia. Like Colgate for ubat gigi, brezee for pencuci baju, Microsoft for software and Google for search. We need to break that. We need to have branding in Malaysia that when we said it, people know its from Open Source Software. The best among the software. Hehehe. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.com wrote: errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it new community? On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, Ligh bulb menyala. Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and stick into their mind. 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have one campaign? What do you think? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
No he is worng. I was part of a bid based on Novell's technology. The assumption was made; do I smell a vested interest somewhere? Eric On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it. (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit them to? Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs, but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How? Here, http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327sec=nation#13033084438331if_height=583 it says Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP) teams, to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar criteria. hmm... they must be technically competent. The justification it seems: Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g. yahoo, hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the government. Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate Authority, yes? But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?), the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS tools that are available. It would be an interesting collaborative exercise: Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC. Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project. That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc... In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes. Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education, Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Next time I hit you over the head and take your wallet; then we will see how sabar you can be. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:32 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: sabar itu separuh daripada iman 2011/4/21 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just point the MX record to the domains.live.com. And they just develop the interface and connect to the domains.live.comAPI, and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email. In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting. By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at the domains.live.com. 50 million for that... haih... -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Intuittech Technology Day
Fooodddgeeeks... Wonder if there will be hunnies to oogle at? Eric On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: eric and myself are registered and attending. am looking forward to the foodie ;-) On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, FYI and anyone going? Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM Subject: Intuittech Technology Day To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com linuxmalay...@gmail.com Salam Harris, Please assist to blast invitation to below event to our community friends. The attendance is FOC. Thanks and Regards, Yusz [image: gtalk8] [image: header1] *Key-Notes* [image: Mark Spencer] *Mark Spencer* CTO of Digium and Founder of Asterisk *[image: Ethan Galstaad]* *Ethan Galstaad* Presdident and Founder of Nagios [image: Dato Badlisham Ghazali] *Dato Badlisham Ghazali* CEO MDeC [image: Dato Dr Kamal Jit Singh] *Dato Dr Kamal Jit Singh* CEO Unit Innovasi Khas *Product-Flash* [image: majudalogo][image: majuda] Majuda Corporation, a U.S. based corporation headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida, specializes in the development of call recording and quality management solutions that present organizations of any size with the ability to securely listen, understand and react to the needs of their customers and employees. The value Majuda delivers is the ability to leverage call recording as a secure and regulatory compliant tool to mitigate risk and liability exposure while enhancing call center effectiveness and agent performance. Majuda’s reporting and analysis tools empower clients with the knowledge and insight to improve agent performance, optimize communications resources and increase revenue. Read more on www.majuda.comhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/89fb5dd4d9 *Intuittech Technology Day 2011 - Update 2* *Event updates:* [image: mindermann] We are pleased to share that we have Mr. André Mindermann, CEO and Co-Founder of OTRS Group at our event. He has built one of the world's most promising technology companies based on a popular Open Source ticketing system and guided OTRS AG through its successful flotation on the Frankfurt stock exchange in 2009. He will share with us the latest and greates about OTRS and how we can further integrate Nagios into OTRS. Finally we have the agenda ready for you! Since we got a lot of registrations, we decided to split the event into two parallel tracks to accommodate all of you :-) *Agenda:* [image: agenda] Hope to see you there. Please follow this link to registerhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/239602baef yourself for this event, and invite your friends, clients and partners which are interested in Asterisk and Nagios to register too! Best regards Daniel -- *About the event:* Intuittech Sdn Bhd, the leader in Asterisk and Nagios solutions in Malaysia and south east asia, has partnered with its sponsors and organized the first ever Intuittech Technology Day to share the latest news and updates on Asterisk and Nagios as well having exciting presentations on how you can connect more effectively and efficiently with your customers and co-workers. *The conference aims at:* Individuals with a general Interest in Asterisk and Nagios that have a technical or non-technical background (you choose between business and technical tracks) Individual and companies looking into a possible new revenue stream by partnering with Intuittech existing and potential clients *We are honored to welcome great speakers and special guests such as:* Mark Spencer - Creator of Asterisk Ethan Galstad - Creator of Nagios, His Excellency the Ambassador of Switzerland Datuk Badlisham Ghazali, CEO of MDeC Datuk Jit Singh, CEO of Unit Innovasi Khas (Prime Ministers office) *Date and Time:* 28. April 2011 Registration and Breakfast is served from 7:30 AM to 8:45 AM. Event starts at 9 AM (sharp) *Various:* Free parking is provided Breakfast, Tea-Break, Lunch and Afternoon Tea-Break are provided The Intuittech Technology Day is *free of charge* *Location:* Securities Commission Malaysia 3, Persiaran Bukit Kiara Bukit Kiara 50490 Kuala Lumpur Google-Maps: Securities Commission Malaysiahttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/cbf7633a43/f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Securities+Commission+Malaysiaaq=sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=32.80241,86.572266ie=UTF8hq=Securities+Commission+Malaysiahnear=radius=15000ll=3.144116,101.638126spn=0.076446,0.169086z=13 *Registration:* Please follow this link to registerhttp://cts.vresp.com/c/?IntuittechSdnBhd/bedfb2a34d/5d9f347be0/7293d371fcyourself for this event, and
Re: [osdcmy] Open Source is free. Your time isn't.
No point convincing idiots who just want free things. Freeloaders are everywhere. The trick is to spot them before they get to you. Eric On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: Could agree more with this. But it is sad that some people do not think this way. When you volunteer to help them, they expect the exact same thing they get for those support services they paid to those expensive paid softwares. And when you tell them that you are not free and delay to assist them, they dare to scold you like hell, as if they had paid you damn much, although themself know, they din pay a single cent. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://www.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
I love Malaysia as well. But to do you think they could have succeeded in nailing down the contract without Najib's brother being on board? Funny with all the talk about MAMPU and the Public Sector supporting FOSS, at the end of the day they still prefer to be Microsoft's bitches. They really know how to spend our tax money. Eric On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail muahahahaha. Best Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon -- *From: * Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service (email) which is already well established in the private sector. The article did say Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new one-stop web portal for government services. To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ? Best regards, Hanxue On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote: phew...50m even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist. maybe someone should poke him. if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, all you FLOSS guys out there, http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/ the above article Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted... The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use?? And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??! quote The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free email provider, Google Inc. /quote quote The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross national income
Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server
Hard to get kickback on FOSS mate. Better off becoming MS' bitches. Eric On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com wrote: Well said! There are opportunists abound. I would really love to provide solutions to the government, but even speaking to a decision maker is very difficult. Another aspect is the capability, whether perceived or actual, of open source companies. Do we understand what actually the government and businesses need? Solving the technical problem is only half the equation. We will also need to address customer's concerns. This relates to other discussions on successful open source companies such as Redhat. Having been in a large company that chose Redhat as the Linux solution provider, they have done amazingly well to understand the business concerns and address them. For example, having a well defined service contract (viewed another way, someone to blame/fix when things go wrong), the ability to influence their product development roadmap and taking the pain away from managing an enterprise IT ecosystem. Coming back to the question of Malaysian government - with a sensible proposal and the capability to deliver the solutions, will this be sufficient to win contracts and provide solutions to the government? Or are there other pitfalls such as needing connections? Kind regards, Hanxue On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.comwrote: I love malaysia. :) Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who? Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do. What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others. If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others. If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one. As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail muahahahaha. Best Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon -- *From: * Hanxue Lee leehan...@gmail.com *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure Email Server Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service (email) which is already well established in the private sector. The article did say Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new one-stop web portal for government services. To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ? Best regards, Hanxue On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness darxl...@gmail.comwrote: phew...50m even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist. maybe someone should poke him. if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi, all you FLOSS guys out there, http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/ the above article Tricubes Bhd’s RM50
Re: [osdcmy] cannot load X after installing fglrx driver onopenSUSE11.4 x64
How to add GNOME3 repo for openSUSE 11.4 http://e-tote-kala.blogspot.com/2011/04/gnome3-quick-adding-repositories-to.html Enjoy... Eric 2011/4/13 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com Cd rosak?aku dah byk kali kena. Sent from my iPhone On 13 Apr 2011, at 19:03, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Masa install guna 64 bit kah? Lagi satu usah install cuba layan live mode ada ok kah? Sebab sy br minggu sudah layan spec yg sama dengan live mode utk buat recovery data klien .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -- *From: * Umarzuki Mochlis u...@umarzuki.org *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:12:25 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] cannot load X after installing fglrx driver on openSUSE11.4 x64 CQ40-115AU CPU AMD Turion X2 RM-70 Graphic acc. ATI Radeon HD3200 On 04/12/2011 08:49 PM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim wrote: Salam tuan empunya laptop Boleh bagi details spec laptop tuan .. Kajian ingin dilakukan .. Kenapa apakah yg menyebabkan sang Gecko tidak boleh menari di pentas tuan .. Regards, e1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] cannot load X after installing fglrx driver onopenSUSE11.4 x64
Really? Hmm I have added the repo but was too tired to do a zypper dup. Thanks for the feedback. Eric On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis u...@umarzuki.orgwrote: i like the 1st comment on that blog: This repository is not yet ready and using this already will cause dataloss, armageddon and eventually end of civilization as we know. So avoid using it until announced officially :-) and so it had happened to me. On 04/14/2011 12:39 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: How to add GNOME3 repo for openSUSE 11.4 http://e-tote-kala.blogspot.com/2011/04/gnome3-quick-adding-repositories-to.html Enjoy... Eric 2011/4/13 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com Cd rosak?aku dah byk kali kena. Sent from my iPhone On 13 Apr 2011, at 19:03, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Masa install guna 64 bit kah? Lagi satu usah install cuba layan live mode ada ok kah? Sebab sy br minggu sudah layan spec yg sama dengan live mode utk buat recovery data klien .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile -- *From: * Umarzuki Mochlis u...@umarzuki.org *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Date: *Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:12:25 +0800 *To: *osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] cannot load X after installing fglrx driver on openSUSE11.4 x64 CQ40-115AU CPU AMD Turion X2 RM-70 Graphic acc. ATI Radeon HD3200 On 04/12/2011 08:49 PM, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim wrote: Salam tuan empunya laptop Boleh bagi details spec laptop tuan .. Kajian ingin dilakukan .. Kenapa apakah yg menyebabkan sang Gecko tidak boleh menari di pentas tuan .. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept
I will be willing to help if nothing clashes with my schedule. But since I am more comfy with openSUSE Fedora I can only do these tow. Apa macam? Bila nak anjurkan Eric On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: even if this install fest cant be done, i think is okay because such event really need support of community since based on previous history, maybe this way its not really working or face a lot of problem i hope we can still target on some event that are more public in coming days or back to the small quote, Keep Trying i 2011/4/8 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Maybe I have grown a older than I thought. More cynical. Do remember to have fun always, Eric On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: yes, i agree. we need internet access, uncle google also really help when facing a problem i did face a problem during an event at USIM we from Komuniti Sabily did an small install fest during our last day on there we had event on saturday and sunday, around 5 and 6 mac ago during 6 mac, i install Sabily on one if the students there same problem that occur, the laptop is using broadcom driver, so need to activate it(but actually can activate it by using sabily cd) then vlc cannot play cd still need to ask google since i didnt experience on how to solve it just to emphasize, yup internet are really important about the install fest, yes.. perhaps because didnt face the 'real life' in oss make me want to try this.. even you all had 'saat pahit manis', maybe the important, is keep trying.. i agree on this.. 2011/4/8 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM. Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access. But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow... -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept
Just do it if you want to. I am not being cruel, but I am honest. Sometimes the line can be fuzzy between the two. Have you seen any one just happy to use Linux as installed? Installing in a VM? If you do VM there will be no issues except for multimedia stuff. Have you considered the fact that people want to get codecs, tutorials etc. Yes you can also use SUSE Studio for creating an ISO, VM image or use an offline repo to reduce the headache. After that how? Updates? Adding/Removing software. You think they will work to read the documentation? Let us be honest shall we? Seeing that the word KOSTEM has been thrown around, the target audience will be mostly Malay. That is OK. But most Malays chaps I know love Celcom 3G so much - considered making that Celcom 3G dongle work with distros? Since OSDCMY is a Debian/Ubuntu majority association - made it work yet with Celcom 3G dongles, especially those with the Qualcomm chipsets? I am not pouring cold water on your efforts, but you must know what to expect. If you have the time. patience and resources, why not? You will not find many who wants to do it. Eric On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: im really glad that my mindset towards hackerspacekl is wrong sorry if im being to direct but that is what myself feel, its ok then, i will come to next event if threre are been created about the infest fest, the idea of having it during MOSC is a good idea it should be opened to public maybe im not being realistic since event towards introducing OSS had been done and i do think it is unsuccessfully achieve is target.. right? based on your all words so what can we do know towards this? having an event at hackerspace? or preparing for it during the MOSC? 2011/4/6 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com I do agree with Eric notation. I don't really mean that installfiest will be disaster, but *how do you know that the person who installed will use the OS*? I've done some number of awareness project from university to school, fron city to middle of no where, but how far do the program really influence them moving toward OSS? I't not want to be self minded, negative thinking person, but like Eric said, again, 'Many Malaysian students are lazy by default'. Not all, but majority. They don't want to listen to their same age friend or person who do not have success story person like me, the key is how we need to change our friends mindsets? The only thing I can see is involve installfiest session in event such as MOSC and let them come and see how we unite. That's the key thing. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: There are many issues when it comes to an install fest. Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit the people? You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus neglecting the others who came. Serioulsy it may be inspiring to view a film you torrented from the Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and tryhere...you fill in the blanks. And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns' students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly use! Eric On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: ~intall fest~ this concept is really amazing at those early stage people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar with others prob can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia? ...to see how strong and important a community can be Revolution OS really open my mind this is my first post to this mailing list.. i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept
Let them indeed. I just don't want another embittered group. Better to be cruel than to show only the best things. What distro to use? Sabilly? Ubuntu? Fedora? openSUSE? All do you want all? Anyone in OSDCMY keen on install fest? Wariola? red1? Kagesenshi? Ejat? Eric On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Lets them try. We had done it and we share our saat pahit :). They need to come up with better plan for this. Reality suck but lets be open on this learning is a process of trying and doing. From your point we can propose solutions but reality still suck, it may not work. But we cannot stop trying. Trying is what we want from them. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Just do it if you want to. I am not being cruel, but I am honest. Sometimes the line can be fuzzy between the two. Have you seen any one just happy to use Linux as installed? Installing in a VM? If you do VM there will be no issues except for multimedia stuff. Have you considered the fact that people want to get codecs, tutorials etc. Yes you can also use SUSE Studio for creating an ISO, VM image or use an offline repo to reduce the headache. After that how? Updates? Adding/Removing software. You think they will work to read the documentation? Let us be honest shall we? Seeing that the word KOSTEM has been thrown around, the target audience will be mostly Malay. That is OK. But most Malays chaps I know love Celcom 3G so much - considered making that Celcom 3G dongle work with distros? Since OSDCMY is a Debian/Ubuntu majority association - made it work yet with Celcom 3G dongles, especially those with the Qualcomm chipsets? I am not pouring cold water on your efforts, but you must know what to expect. If you have the time. patience and resources, why not? You will not find many who wants to do it. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept
Maybe I have grown a older than I thought. More cynical. Do remember to have fun always, Eric On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: yes, i agree. we need internet access, uncle google also really help when facing a problem i did face a problem during an event at USIM we from Komuniti Sabily did an small install fest during our last day on there we had event on saturday and sunday, around 5 and 6 mac ago during 6 mac, i install Sabily on one if the students there same problem that occur, the laptop is using broadcom driver, so need to activate it(but actually can activate it by using sabily cd) then vlc cannot play cd still need to ask google since i didnt experience on how to solve it just to emphasize, yup internet are really important about the install fest, yes.. perhaps because didnt face the 'real life' in oss make me want to try this.. even you all had 'saat pahit manis', maybe the important, is keep trying.. i agree on this.. 2011/4/8 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my For me, I think the install fest will be best if do alongside with TM. Coz if TM is there, then there will be internet access. But I doubt TM will let us tumpang their roadshow... -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Install Fest Concept
There are many issues when it comes to an install fest. Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit the people? You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus neglecting the others who came. Serioulsy it may be inspiring to view a film you torrented from the Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and tryhere...you fill in the blanks. And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns' students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly use! Eric On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: ~intall fest~ this concept is really amazing at those early stage people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar with others prob can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia? ...to see how strong and important a community can be Revolution OS really open my mind this is my first post to this mailing list.. i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted
Sigh! red1 don't want me no more. Crying alone in the darkness of Bangkok. Eric 2011/4/4 red1 r...@red1.org On 4/4/11 9:23 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: I jugak tahan maki...2 tahun kat OSCC. Eric @Eric, what for i take you? you are immune to any words of torment. i cannot beat what you got from where you come from. @Cik Nor Arlina Amirah, Tawaran* *untuk menjadi seorang aprentis pakar Java ERP dan 'Open Source innovator' adalah serius dan yang berikut adalah syarat cadangan dan keadaannya: TUJUAN: 0. Mencapai indeks '5 world class developer' yang cuba dilakukan oleh sebuah institusi kerajaan tetapi pada hemat saya, akan gagal dan maka memerlukan daya tersendiri tanpa bergantung kepada apa jua bantuan pihak institusi. 1. Calon memilih sesuatu bidang yang menarik untuk dicimpungi sehingga terlahir sebagai satu projeknya yang memberi hak cipta 'sumber terbuka' kepada dirinya. Seterusnya diharapkan projek tersebut hidup dengan komuniti yang tersendiri dan diiktiraf di peringkat dunia serta menambahkan nilai modal minda kepada negara kita. 2. Calon boleh memilih salah satu ide projek berikut: a. Mencantum apa jua aplikasi dengan ADempiere: i. Asterisk ii. GoogleMap iii. Emel iv. OpenOffice v. Android (Untuk pengetahuan, aplikasi tersebut sudah pun terbukti tercantum dan tersiar umum. Namun calon dikehendaki menggunakan daya kreatifnya untuk meneroka penambah-baikan atau penghasilan projek yang lebih unik, baru dan sendiri memimpin di depan dari segi tangga dunia. KELAYAKAN 0. Daya potensi menguasai bahasa pengatur-caraan Java mesti sudah terselar dalam diri seseorang calon yang berminat: a. Mempunyai keputusan peperiksaan SPM untuk Matematik Tambahan setinggi A1. b. Mampu lulus peperiksaan IQ atas yang biasa 165. Sila cuba dengan apa jua IQ Test atas talian untuk pasti. 1. Calon yang berminat hendaklah mampu menggunakan internet semata-mata untuk mencari, memuat-turun dan menjayakan apa jua aplikasi sumber terbuka secara tersendiri tanpa pimpinan secara fizikal. Sila rujuk kitab mengenai budaya yang diperlukan : http://downloads.sourceforge.net/adempiere/MasterOpenSourceCulture.zip?use_mirror=transact PROSES BIMBINGAN 1. Calon yang sedemikian boleh menerima tunjuk ajar lebih tinggi yang bermutu secara langsung dari saya kebetulan sudah diiktiraf sebagai 'Guru' dan global founding leader sebuah projek atasan dalam SourceForge. Ia boleh dilakukan secara berperingkat dalam bentuk 'personal coaching'. Ini boleh dilakukan secara dalam kelas dan atas talian. Saya lebih selesa calon berdikari tanpa penyelaian secara langsung. Namun saya boleh memberi beberapa sesi penting secara bersemuka untuk menerangkan beberapa konsep yang mendalam yang payah difahami secara teori. Antaranya ialah: i. Open Source mengalahkan perisian tertutup dari segi Hak Cipta Intelektual (ini masih tidak difahami oleh kebanyakan institusi awam yang berkenaan.) ii. Kaedah membangun projek secara 'Social Networking' menerusi kaedah 'branded' 2. Cara belajar terbaik untuk menguasai Java secara praktikal. Saya akan memberikan lebih coaching teknik menguasai Java sekiranya calon memang menunjukkan minat luar biasa menguasainya. Initiatif ini saya dapat mengambil sekarang kerana: 1. Saya sudah mengumpul cukup ilmu kungfu mengenai projek berasaskan Java selepas 8 tahun di dalamnya. 2. Saya sudah cukup bebas kerana berdikari sepenuhnya dengan pendapatan atas talian tanpa perlu terikat dengan mana-mana pihak secara geografi maupun politik. 3. Tugasan saya secara harian terkini memang berkait rapat dengan pelbagai kegunaan bernilai komersil berkaitan ADempiere seperti: a. QA dan Testing Engine b. Manufacturing Module c. Fixed Assets d. Maintenance of Assets e. Costing Engine f. Component Model dari OSGi Panduan lengkap berbentuk e-book juga akan diberikan kepada calon yang serius. PERINGATAN: Indeks kegagalan aprentis selama ini adalah 100%, iaitu tiada seorang pun aprentis saya sejak 1997 yang berjaya. Namun mereka masing-masing secara umum bertambah nilai dalam pasaran akibat proses pengaprentisan saya: 1. Biodata mereka lebih global kerana apa jua projek yang mereka terlibat pasti ada rujukan dari syarikat pengguna seluruh dunia. 2. Pendedahan teknikal adalah menyeluruh dan bersifat 'enterprise' dan berkaitan sistem kewangan yang bernilai cukup tinggi dalam pasaran dunia. 3. Mereka mempelajari beberapa teknik shortcut dalam hidup tanpa melalui kesilapan yang telah dilakukan dalam hidup saya dari segi mengejar kerjaya yang sesuai. Ini tidak bermakna seseorang aprentis mesti berjaya dari kacamata saya yang ingin mereka itu mencapai objektif utama tersebut di atas. Tetapi mereka dikira berjaya sekiranya mereka menambah gaji bulanan mereka nanti secara mendadak. Matlamat gaji yang sepatutnya ialah dari RM2000 sebulan kepada RM5000 sebulan dalam setahun. Pendapatan saya sendiri adalah bernilai RM15k sebulan
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
What the experts may or may not realise is that in a company, the HR may not be IT savvy, so to ensure that a certain level of expertise and competency has been achieved by the candidate. Also in many instances of tender requirements, a certification will come in handy. Eric On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Do agree. Most of the veteran may not go for certification. Experience do give them the advantages over younger generation. Certification do help us in determine which to pick from thousand of graduates. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Not many people agree on certification. It doesn't help if local OSS veteran/otai often puts down the need for certification. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] The Canterbury Distribution
You have been April Fool'ed Eric On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: We are pleased to announce the birth of the Canterbury distribution. Canterbury is a merge of the efforts of the community distributions formerly known as Debian, Gentoo, Grml, openSUSE and Arch Linux. The target is to produce a really unified effort and be able to stand up in a combined effort against proprietary operating systems, to show off that the Free Software community is actually able to work together for a common goal instead of creating more diversity. I Like http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] OpenSUSE 11.4 GNOME3 Launching Party
I am not sure whether the damn mat sallehs are playing their childish April Fool's prank. Gotta wait till April 2 or 3 to be sure Eric On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Hafidz Nasruddin haf...@gmail.com wrote: kena delayed lah macam ni GNOME party http://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2011-April/msg0.html On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Direct link https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dEd5QnducGNMNV9IemROdUs2UWpOdkE6MQ FB event page http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=151400104923222 Please register, only register people will get access to this party. No Register No Party. The people that already register but dont show up will get banned in our list. We not have specified how many people can come but we wil close the registration if necesscary. 1st come 1st serve Click here to register : http://bit.ly/hy7loJ On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, On behalf openSUSE Malaysia, GNOME Malaysia and OSDCMY. I would like announce and invite to all of you to come to the Launching Party. After a long discussion to many thread email that need to reply we need some party to make our life cheer again. If not big party but enough to make people happy and satisfied. We have 2 competition that make you interest to join 1) openSUSE competition 3) GNOME competition Just bring you laptop/netbook and show to us and the participant what you have. The winner will be vote by the participant. The winner will get special gift from openSUSE, GNOME OSDCMY. Please register, only register people will get access to this party. No Register No Party. The people that already register but dont show up will get banned in our list. We not have specified how many people can come but we wil close the registration if necesscary. 1st come 1st serve Click here to register : http://bit.ly/hy7loJ You can check our member at Facebook : openSUSE Malaysia GNOME Malaysia (Please click like if you like) :) Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- http://about.me/hafidz/bio -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
That is not right. Red Hat and SUSE also doesn't put the community, but customers first. Should we ban them? Same does Canonical. These three companies are there to make money. Their community projects, Fedora, openSUSE and Ubuntu, respectively put the community first. Eric On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:09 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: saya mencadangkan banned kan je sesaper yang tak nak letak komuniti dulu dalam agenda dia bro 2011/3/31 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de. whois domain tu la..kalau orang tau :p On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk.. touche :p -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
Well it seems the company has its direction wrong. Nobody will fall for a Flash-y site anymore. If any, most of us, with the exception for Youtube couldn't care less for flash. Eric On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk.. touche :p On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi Eric and all, noted; I got the IBM link from this page: http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was dated Aug 2009. I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like. Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this! BTW who are these guys? http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my -- from GoogleAds I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ... Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick buck? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and applicable to moat distros. As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat concise one. Eric On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad... FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's whom I believe IBM also offers... http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, LPI is part of their Core Competency programme. But since the Govt is too used to the vendor system, they tend to only appreciate vendor certifications. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very interesting and different. if you go to LPI: http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1 It will explain it. From what I interprete... as stated: ...does not have an official single method of test preparation. We encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly developed it. Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux. If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated: After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will be discuss are:... However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will Malaysia gov. recognise LPI? I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed, the trainers have to have a very Open Source mindset, ie: they have to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they have learnt. Our standard type of Malaysian teachers will not work, those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams! The first way will create skillful and capable students. The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam, but have little skills
Re: [osdcmy] Top5 BSDA Trainers Project
Training all to be lovers of the Red Beastie . Do I smell a conspiracy by Man Utd fans here? Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Yep my bad typo error cause CP :). Suppose BSD syllabus. Thanks for the reminder Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGI From: Abdul `Azim Norazmi azimnora...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:58:05 +0800 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Top5 BSDA Trainers Project Untuk BSD rasanya. Hasil dari google. http://www.bsdcertification.org/certification/ tapi ada LPI syllabus pulak. 1) How to be good trainers 2) How to be good PR 3) LPI syllabus 4) Skill teaching 5) Motivation 6) Share experience On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: I would like to know, what is BSDA stands for. -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- ./azim -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
Boh, LPI is part of their Core Competency programme. But since the Govt is too used to the vendor system, they tend to only appreciate vendor certifications. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very interesting and different. if you go to LPI: http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1 It will explain it. From what I interprete... as stated: ...does not have an official single method of test preparation. We encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly developed it. Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux. If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated: After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will be discuss are:... However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will Malaysia gov. recognise LPI? I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed, the trainers have to have a very Open Source mindset, ie: they have to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they have learnt. Our standard type of Malaysian teachers will not work, those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams! The first way will create skillful and capable students. The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam, but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems. I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees! I hope the selection is done with care... On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it to others. Top20 Top50 maybe. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk pemilihan 10 orang tu. Good luck! -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
Boh, The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and applicable to moat distros. As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat concise one. Eric On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad... FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's whom I believe IBM also offers... http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, LPI is part of their Core Competency programme. But since the Govt is too used to the vendor system, they tend to only appreciate vendor certifications. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very interesting and different. if you go to LPI: http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1 It will explain it. From what I interprete... as stated: ...does not have an official single method of test preparation. We encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly developed it. Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux. If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated: After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will be discuss are:... However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will Malaysia gov. recognise LPI? I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed, the trainers have to have a very Open Source mindset, ie: they have to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they have learnt. Our standard type of Malaysian teachers will not work, those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams! The first way will create skillful and capable students. The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam, but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems. I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees! I hope the selection is done with care... On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it to others. Top20 Top50 maybe. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk pemilihan 10 orang tu. Good luck! -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- #--- regds, -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi Eric and all, noted; I got the IBM link from this page: http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was dated Aug 2009. I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like. Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this! BTW who are these guys? http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my -- from GoogleAds I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ... Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick buck? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and applicable to moat distros. As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat concise one. Eric On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad... FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's whom I believe IBM also offers... http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Boh, LPI is part of their Core Competency programme. But since the Govt is too used to the vendor system, they tend to only appreciate vendor certifications. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very interesting and different. if you go to LPI: http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1 It will explain it. From what I interprete... as stated: ...does not have an official single method of test preparation. We encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly developed it. Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux. If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated: After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will be discuss are:... However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will Malaysia gov. recognise LPI? I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed, the trainers have to have a very Open Source mindset, ie: they have to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they have learnt. Our standard type of Malaysian teachers will not work, those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams! The first way will create skillful and capable students. The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam, but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems. I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees! I hope the selection is done with care... On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it to others. Top20 Top50 maybe. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk pemilihan 10 orang tu. Good
Re: [osdcmy] Call For Trainers
Please be gentle On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:01 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Eric.. yes, Hard n strong. rafe On Mar 30, 2011 6:52 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Are you coming on to me? :P Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:55 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com wrote: Can I sit on you? ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified
LPI is a vendor neutral certification. You need to pass 2 papers at each level e.g. if you pass 101 and 102 you will get the LPI Level-1 certification. NCLP is Novell's Linux certification which is 100% hands on. RHCE is Red Hat's certification and is heavy on lab. Eric On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:09 PM, JuStZrI jazz...@gmail.com wrote: As Salam and good afternoon all, just want to ask the example of lpi certification of person who passwd the LPI exam's and other linux certified, just want to ask about the linux cert certified in Malaysia, to know the curriculum and the phase of the certification thanks ;) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Call For Trainers
Can I go as class attendee? I don't need anything except for a power plug and place to sit - don't even need to be on a table. Eric On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Additional info :- The trainings will be conducted in Penang. Transportation and accommodation will be covered by OSDC.MY. PHP Object Oriented Programming - 5 days Framework PHP - 5 days PHP Security - 3 days On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Raja, there's no need to hijack others people topic. just create a new topic and advertise la. as simple as that. On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, but i have to interject kostem is also looking at doing the same thing as a business revenue in partnership with its members with the registration of kostem as a company with berhad, kostem will be able to register as vendor / contractor to govt agencies, govt linked companies, multinational companies, etc - associations cant do this with kostem, members will be able to use kostem as a vehicle to offer development, implementation, testing, commissioning, training, support and other related services based on open source software publication, printing, distributorship, retailing, and other related services for books, magazines, software, audio-visual and other media job, full-time, part-time, temporary, and contract work recruitment services for open source software expertise sales, services, support and other services for open source software based server, equipment, devices, peripherals, hardware, etc training, tutorial, courses, workshop, seminar, conference, testing, certification and other educational services i hope that the osdc community can give their support towards the establishment of kostem, we need more members ;-D we need contributors also to publish magazines and books On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum Greetings All. OSDC.MY will have a training project sometimes in the future. We are looking for PHP Object Oriented Programming, PHP Framework PHP Security trainers preferably with 5 years experience (less then 5 years will also be considered). Interested trainers can email their profile to me or En Harisfazillah Jamel. For other courses/program trainers who are interested to be listed in our TRAINERS LIST (fulltime or part time), kindly also send your profile to us. TQ. Regards, Yun Secretariat OSDC.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Hari Terbuka 2011 pada 24-26 Mac 2011
Why the last minute announcement? On 3/23/11, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys! I just been inform by Pn. Suzita (UKM) about open day which I stated at the subject above. So, she contact me for recruit some numbers of community members joining forces as promotional team like we've done last year (if I not mistaken). We only needed for 25th and 26th March 2011. Because I'm not really quite free at that time, is there others who would like to join them? Just let me know. Thanks :) -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] What about closed core?
Again, I stand by my explanation. Eric On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Closed Core == sounds like FOSS, smells like FOSS, looks like FOSS but it ain't FOSS. Open Core is a real term and that all applies, but (I think) I made up that term Closed Core and I don't even know if the concept is valid. It seems to me that Open Core implementations are basically a lie told to consumers to lock them into proprietary software before they realize it. Because of the lie, it's worse than regular proprietary software. In the Open Core concept, if all of that proprietary stuff wrapped around the FLOSS base went away, the core software would still be okay. In this Closed Core concept I'm describing, if the proprietary core of the applications goes away, none of the FLOSS applications built around it would work any more. It would be like we had all of the GNU utilities without a Linux kernel to run them on. In fact, it really happened that way 30 years ago. GNU was developed without the Linux kernel (ref: http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-history.html ). So, what I'm wondering is whether or not Closed Core is a valid concept and if we can apply that term to free Facebook apps, for example. I suppose a similar concept could be applied to free Windows software that requires proprietary libraries. What do we, as a community, think about this? Should we discourage this type of software development? If the closed core (i.e.: Facebook or Windows) went away, would the apps go away, be rewritten to work on another API, or would we write a new core implementing the missing APIs? We're actually two groups in one... FLOSS enthusiasts and Software Developers. As a developer I say ooohh! Facebook API... cool!, but as a FLOSS enthusiast I don't like Facebook's limitations or secrets. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: I noticed a Facebook Developers Garage event on the OSDC.my. Since Facebook is definitely not free, but applications developed for it potentially are free, is there such as a thing as closed core? I've only recently become familiar with the term open core. I haven't heard the term closed core... can I copyright it? ... I can't wait to start suing people! :) Where does this type of software development fit into our community? Thank you. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Re: MDEC Meeting tommorow! Teh Tarik Session
I am really unintersted whether dia turun padang ka kolam ka dll hahaha I am very curious to meet this person who is willing to engage with us. Not many suits like us that much. See you guys there Eric 2011/3/19 Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com: Inilah VP yang dikatakan berjiwa rakyat mahu turun padang jumpa para2 taliban nie. Sepanjang kita dengan MDEC ada ka VP mau lepak minum the tarik dengan kita. Ni kira ok la mahu melepak kalu tak jangan mimpi la nak ajak the tarik ahaks Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon From: Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim hidz...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 13:04:07 + To: mfazliaz...@gmail.com; Mohd. Rizal Mohd Shaharirizal...@gmail.com ReplyTo: hidz...@gmail.com Cc: Amir Harisamirha...@gmail.com; Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzamanfen...@ubuntu.com; Eric Yeohmsiantuxlo...@gmail.com; khairunna...@gmail.com; Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslansharuzza...@gmail.com; Harisfazillah Jamellinuxmalay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: MDEC Meeting tommorow! Teh Tarik Session Sapa VC yang rasa pandai x bertempat ajak lepak the tarik session jam 1.30 .. Kalu aku cakap mangkuk kuali belanga salah tak .. Tuan saya boleh join tp kena habis kenduri dulu .. Jam 5 ke 6 mcm tu ada lagi kah .. Sebab kenduri sedara-mara ni kalu balik awal mahu kena ungkit sampai krismas tahun hadapan .. Tu pun siap repeat lg deepavali tahun 2013 .. Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry®Mobile From: Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 10:45:50 + To: Mohd Rizal Mohd Shaharirizal...@gmail.com ReplyTo: mfazliaz...@gmail.com Cc: Amir Harisamirha...@gmail.com; Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzamanfen...@ubuntu.com; Eric Yeohmsiantuxlo...@gmail.com; khairunna...@gmail.com; Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslansharuzza...@gmail.com; Mohd Hidzuanhidz...@gmail.com; Harisfazillah Jamellinuxmalay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: MDEC Meeting tommorow! Teh Tarik Session Oho berita I dah lama mdec nye vp baru cuma tak dihebahkan tapi dah berpeluang untuk jumpa dah kira cukup baik dan vp baru nie cukup open kepada osdcmy. Ini adalah masa untuk kita berbincang mengenai masa depan osdcmy dan juga mosc Kalau sapa yang dah tau vp baru tu sapa huhuhuhu dato' dr. ... Ahaks Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon From: Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari rizal...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:34:33 +0800 To: Mohd Fazli Azranmfazliaz...@gmail.com Cc: Amir Harisamirha...@gmail.com; Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzamanfen...@ubuntu.com; Eric Yeohmsiantuxlo...@gmail.com; khairunna...@gmail.com; Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslansharuzza...@gmail.com; Mohd Hidzuanhidz...@gmail.com; Harisfazillah Jamellinuxmalay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: MDEC Meeting tommorow! Teh Tarik Session Hi all, Fazli, what VP? Kalau penting kenapa last minit. Nanti nampak kita x sungguh2 bila kehadiran kurang. Esok emak aku ada kat rumah. InsyaAllah jap lg sampai kat rumah. So esok aku cuba... x leh janji. //rizal On 19 Mar 2011 17:12, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Take care friend. Health is priceless. There will always be another day to make money. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: that nearly happened to me. quit a 5 figure salary job last month cause was feeling stressed. did a check and the doctor told me i have a mild coronary disease and am now on ace 1 medication. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:14 PM, zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is something normal in many other companies too (big or small). So sometimes you just need to move on. I had a manager who once told me this - Don't die for the company, company won't die for you. That was probably one of the best advices anyone has ever gave me. I didn't follow his advice until several companies later. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] What about closed core?
Closed Core == sounds like FOSS, smells like FOSS, looks like FOSS but it ain't FOSS. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: I noticed a Facebook Developers Garage event on the OSDC.my. Since Facebook is definitely not free, but applications developed for it potentially are free, is there such as a thing as closed core? I've only recently become familiar with the term open core. I haven't heard the term closed core... can I copyright it? ... I can't wait to start suing people! :) Where does this type of software development fit into our community? Thank you. -- Ghodmode http://www.ghodmode.com/blog -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
I am aware of your association in Phase One. OSCC wanted to do so much but at each turn we were blocked by political interests and general apathy. MAMPU as we are know is a schizophrenic animal, each jabatan seem to have its own mind and the KP really don't care, so as long as dapat naik pangkat. The statistics are available, but since I was involved with the training portion only, I do not have it. Raja and Red1 were the two chaps who helped us do up the BRR - Benefit Realisation Report; maybe they have a copy of it. The Govt is a control freak. Anything they do is hak kerajaan. We have suggested to involve the community in building some of the stuff, but then the ones in power only want the name and tried to use the community as kuli percuma - case in point MyGOSSCON. When we suggested to reach out to the Private Sector, the official answer is always We only do Public Sector. WTF!? It shows those in power don't know the first thing about FOSS. Even they argue that FOSS is a haram word; we could only use OSS. Jeez! Much that I say, I am sure you have seen and gone through them; since you were in Phase One. I am not saying that OSCC was a great success, but to say it was an epic failure can be affront to us who put in thousands of man hours to try to make it work. I can understand that outside of the Public Sector, there was hardly a noticeable ripple. It was sad - I really believed we were doing something positive for FOSS in Malaysia. Alas like so many alumni of Pahse Two will attest, we all ended up being tukang buat slide for clueless politicians. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Saya pernah berkerja didalam OSCC semasa fasa pertama dibawah syarikat DRB IT. MyNetwatch adalah hasil usaha saya. Malah nama MyNetwatch tu pun saya yang cadangkan. Dokumen untuk versi pertama MyNetwatch saya yang tulis. Tapi cuba kira berapa banyak agensi kerajaan yang menggunakan MyNetwatch, sama ada versi awal, atau versi yang terkini. Berapa banyak pula yang menggunakan OpenOffice sepenuhnya? MAMPU kata lebih 90%, tapi yang menghairankan, MAMPU juga masih menggunakan format PROPRIETARY dari MICROSOFT untuk dokumen tender mereka. Impak kah itu? Berapa banyak pula agensi yang menggunakan produk lain OSCC seperti MySpamguard, MySurfguard, MyMeeting dan sebagainya? Mana nombor/statistik ni? Kenapa nombor ni tak dicanangkan keseluruh dunia? Apa yang sering dicanangkan, adalah keberjayaan melaksanakan pertandingan pengaturcaraan 36 jam tanpa henti. Tapi apa hasil dari pertandingan ini? Mana kodnya dan mana projeknya? Apa sumbangan pertandingan tu kepada Sumber Terbuka Malaysia? Banyak lagi soalan. Tapi nanti bazir masa jer bertanya. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Banyak jasa OSCC dalam kerajaan sebenarnya. Dari zaman DRB IT, sampai Dataware yang mana di dalamnya ada hadir sama Saudara HarisFazillah, Mr Eric, Khairul Izzat dan yang lainnya (maaf x sebut semua), banyak impak dan perubahan telah berlaku dalam kerajaan. Kita dah ada MySpamguard, Mysurfguard, MyMeeting.. Pelajar dah tau guna OpenOffice, Ubuntu.. GIMP Kerajaan dah banyak guna Joomla!, Ubuntu Server dan CentOS.. Semua tu di era syarikat yang bernanung di bawah OSCC dan saya rasa Dataware paling berjaya setakat ini. Satu kerugian kalau x teruskan legasi ini. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:24:55 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone to get promoted to Jusa. Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like MyGOSSCON. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: This kind of situation is common. The company that will get the tender will be a company that is not even known as an Open Source supporter or contributor. As long as they are big and got lots of money, they will get it. I'm not surprised in the end OSCC is nothing but just another way to spend government money. Nothing really significant was achieved. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be terengganu's ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers providing only for m$ windows
Re: [osdcmy] Re: OshiriX - Sistem Operasi Ciptaan Anak Tempatan
Like it or not, warga FOSS is always defending our beloved operating platform and the FOSS spirit from FUD from people like MS and Oracle. Let us not make our task more difficult by shooting ourselves in the foot. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:26 PM, MASOKIS maso...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with Eric and wariola.. -- VISIT ME @ HTTP://WWW.MASOKIS.COM -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
One of the primary reason I still have resentment against MAMPU. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Alas like so many alumni of Pahse Two will attest, we all ended up being tukang buat slide for clueless politicians. Hah... been there, done that... :) And the slide will always be constantly changed nearly every day, and when in the meeting on second day, the word will be like Eh... why the slide change? Who make the change... put it back . But it is actually that person instruction to remove the info at the first place. No work get done that day, because whole day was used to change the slide back to nearly identical to the the previous state On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: I am aware of your association in Phase One. OSCC wanted to do so much but at each turn we were blocked by political interests and general apathy. MAMPU as we are know is a schizophrenic animal, each jabatan seem to have its own mind and the KP really don't care, so as long as dapat naik pangkat. The statistics are available, but since I was involved with the training portion only, I do not have it. Raja and Red1 were the two chaps who helped us do up the BRR - Benefit Realisation Report; maybe they have a copy of it. The Govt is a control freak. Anything they do is hak kerajaan. We have suggested to involve the community in building some of the stuff, but then the ones in power only want the name and tried to use the community as kuli percuma - case in point MyGOSSCON. When we suggested to reach out to the Private Sector, the official answer is always We only do Public Sector. WTF!? It shows those in power don't know the first thing about FOSS. Even they argue that FOSS is a haram word; we could only use OSS. Jeez! Much that I say, I am sure you have seen and gone through them; since you were in Phase One. I am not saying that OSCC was a great success, but to say it was an epic failure can be affront to us who put in thousands of man hours to try to make it work. I can understand that outside of the Public Sector, there was hardly a noticeable ripple. It was sad - I really believed we were doing something positive for FOSS in Malaysia. Alas like so many alumni of Pahse Two will attest, we all ended up being tukang buat slide for clueless politicians. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Saya pernah berkerja didalam OSCC semasa fasa pertama dibawah syarikat DRB IT. MyNetwatch adalah hasil usaha saya. Malah nama MyNetwatch tu pun saya yang cadangkan. Dokumen untuk versi pertama MyNetwatch saya yang tulis. Tapi cuba kira berapa banyak agensi kerajaan yang menggunakan MyNetwatch, sama ada versi awal, atau versi yang terkini. Berapa banyak pula yang menggunakan OpenOffice sepenuhnya? MAMPU kata lebih 90%, tapi yang menghairankan, MAMPU juga masih menggunakan format PROPRIETARY dari MICROSOFT untuk dokumen tender mereka. Impak kah itu? Berapa banyak pula agensi yang menggunakan produk lain OSCC seperti MySpamguard, MySurfguard, MyMeeting dan sebagainya? Mana nombor/statistik ni? Kenapa nombor ni tak dicanangkan keseluruh dunia? Apa yang sering dicanangkan, adalah keberjayaan melaksanakan pertandingan pengaturcaraan 36 jam tanpa henti. Tapi apa hasil dari pertandingan ini? Mana kodnya dan mana projeknya? Apa sumbangan pertandingan tu kepada Sumber Terbuka Malaysia? Banyak lagi soalan. Tapi nanti bazir masa jer bertanya. On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Banyak jasa OSCC dalam kerajaan sebenarnya. Dari zaman DRB IT, sampai Dataware yang mana di dalamnya ada hadir sama Saudara HarisFazillah, Mr Eric, Khairul Izzat dan yang lainnya (maaf x sebut semua), banyak impak dan perubahan telah berlaku dalam kerajaan. Kita dah ada MySpamguard, Mysurfguard, MyMeeting.. Pelajar dah tau guna OpenOffice, Ubuntu.. GIMP Kerajaan dah banyak guna Joomla!, Ubuntu Server dan CentOS.. Semua tu di era syarikat yang bernanung di bawah OSCC dan saya rasa Dataware paling berjaya setakat ini. Satu kerugian kalau x teruskan legasi ini. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:24:55 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone to get promoted to Jusa. Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like MyGOSSCON. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Ah Poh ar Aiyo you also know that si nyayok manyak kacau one. We had to clean up the report until 6 pagi. Giler. Not dragging your name and Raja's but that whole cleaning up exercise was stupid and unnecessary. My relationship with my wife became tegang because of that womankeja sampai awal pagi, balik mandi, tukar baju balik ke meeting. Kalau ngatok kena bambu like you never believe. Masa kat OSCC my MC can exceed 14 days, this never happened before in all my years of working! Pernah sekali dua gua henti bawah jamabatang tidur pasal letih sgt. At the end, all was not worth it. Not appreciated never mind, kena caci, dituduh bukan2, bini dah tensionno money is worth all that...I just walked away. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:28 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Hello Apek, Pasal apa lu tarik wa sama Raja kasi ini lu gomen punya hal. Aiya, Wa mana mau cerita itu manyak tak boleh cakap. Wa ada baca itu, itu sta, sta-tis-tik wa sendiri pun susah. Dia punya line manyak manyak tapi ada manyak tada jumpa. Raja sama saya tarik itu line sini sana. Nyonya ada cakap sama wa. Wa ada cakap sama Nyonya, lepas itu wa cakap sayang sama semua orang. Was sudah dapat itu uang bikin kerja. Ada senang wa balik sana. On 3/17/11 5:52 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: I am aware of your association in Phase One. OSCC wanted to do so much but at each turn we were blocked by political interests and general apathy. MAMPU as we are know is a schizophrenic animal, each jabatan seem to have its own mind and the KP really don't care, so as long as dapat naik pangkat. The statistics are available, but since I was involved with the training portion only, I do not have it. Raja and Red1 were the two chaps who helped us do up the BRR - Benefit Realisation Report; maybe they have a copy of it. The Govt is a control freak. Anything they do is hak kerajaan. We have suggested to involve the community in building some of the stuff, but then the ones in power only want the name and tried to use the community as kuli percuma - case in point MyGOSSCON. When we suggested to reach out to the Private Sector, the official answer is always We only do Public Sector. WTF!? It shows those in power don't know the first thing about FOSS. Even they argue that FOSS is a haram word; we could only use OSS. Jeez! Much that I say, I am sure you have seen and gone through them; since you were in Phase One. I am not saying that OSCC was a great success, but to say it was an epic failure can be affront to us who put in thousands of man hours to try to make it work. I can understand that outside of the Public Sector, there was hardly a noticeable ripple. It was sad - I really believed we were doing something positive for FOSS in Malaysia. Alas like so many alumni of Pahse Two will attest, we all ended up being tukang buat slide for clueless politicians. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa
Most terms in English remains in English even among Chinese speakers. I have yet found any Malaysian of Chinese descent who uses Chinese Windows or Linux or Mac. Even I can read Chinese, reading IT terms in Chinese is really weird for me. Dah biasa dgn English. Eric 2011/3/17 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com: ahakss... i am trying to be a total dungu trying to relearn in another language. i wonder what is double-click in chinese or tamil ? any suggestion for right click ? i am trying my best to avoid 'tetikus' wrt to batang cucuk dan main, i think this is an appropriate description of a function of abang batang. also any suggestion for burn cd ? i am using rakamkan pada cd. 2011/3/17 saiful akusai...@gmail.com ada beberapa istilah tak perlu translate, tulis saja double click. dan jangan terlalu dungu membuat terjemahan secara terus. Contoh yg femes digunakan adalah memnggunakan batang cucuk dan main. 2011/3/17 Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com kelik dua kali. :p محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 2011/3/17 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com salam apa perkataan untuk double-click ? dwi-klik ? keklik ? help... i am half-way in my tutorial for creating a grails application ! 2011/3/17 zarul shahrin zarulshah...@gmail.com Saudara dan Saudari, Saya pun tak tahu kenapa. Bila saya membaca perbincangan berkaitan hal-hal teknikal di dalam Bahasa Malaysia, saya rasa geli hati. Bukan perli dan saya pun tak tahu kenapa saya rasa geli hati .Memang rasa kelakar macam menonton gambar P. Ramlee. Mungkin saya ni dah tak betul agaknya. ^O^ Yang Ikhlas, Zarul Shahrin -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone to get promoted to Jusa. Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like MyGOSSCON. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: This kind of situation is common. The company that will get the tender will be a company that is not even known as an Open Source supporter or contributor. As long as they are big and got lots of money, they will get it. I'm not surprised in the end OSCC is nothing but just another way to spend government money. Nothing really significant was achieved. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be terengganu's ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers providing only for m$ windows platform. on the original topic of this thread ehem... ehem i am hearing news that hitech padu will be involved in oscc and openhis. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira. Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika. Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita. Bila ye, nak buat?.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. From: Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:38:33 +0800 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah! 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika bantahan dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ tmpt taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu akn lahir anak yg bijak pandai .. walaupun nmpk mcm xberkesan.. tp ni utk 10 thn punya target! siapa sangka Malaysia juga mampu melahirkn Jutawan Muda lbh baik dr Mark Zuckerberg.. p/s: Hack to Learn, Not Learn to Hack 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Satu cadangan yang menarik. Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada perisian percuma berkualiti rendah. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. skadar cadangan ja 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much other providers hated us. OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since one of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth of the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free trainings we were basically killing the training providers' efforts to provide FOSS programmes. To even up and to avoid to further antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to Grades F and FT only. You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for it. I approved several such applications when I was there. Eric On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama. One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS bukan dalam lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang menolak OSS adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain, contohnya DG (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG (cikgu) juga ada fighter untuk OSS. Sorry, I have no number again.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 15
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Not many people agree with you Tajul. If not enough about OSCC is written by some Mat Salleh in some Western journal or website depa kira OSCC dah kandas. Eric On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Banyak jasa OSCC dalam kerajaan sebenarnya. Dari zaman DRB IT, sampai Dataware yang mana di dalamnya ada hadir sama Saudara HarisFazillah, Mr Eric, Khairul Izzat dan yang lainnya (maaf x sebut semua), banyak impak dan perubahan telah berlaku dalam kerajaan. Kita dah ada MySpamguard, Mysurfguard, MyMeeting.. Pelajar dah tau guna OpenOffice, Ubuntu.. GIMP Kerajaan dah banyak guna Joomla!, Ubuntu Server dan CentOS.. Semua tu di era syarikat yang bernanung di bawah OSCC dan saya rasa Dataware paling berjaya setakat ini. Satu kerugian kalau x teruskan legasi ini. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:24:55 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone to get promoted to Jusa. Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like MyGOSSCON. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: This kind of situation is common. The company that will get the tender will be a company that is not even known as an Open Source supporter or contributor. As long as they are big and got lots of money, they will get it. I'm not surprised in the end OSCC is nothing but just another way to spend government money. Nothing really significant was achieved. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be terengganu's ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers providing only for m$ windows platform. on the original topic of this thread ehem... ehem i am hearing news that hitech padu will be involved in oscc and openhis. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira. Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika. Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita. Bila ye, nak buat?.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. From: Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:38:33 +0800 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah! 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika bantahan dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ tmpt taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu akn lahir anak yg bijak pandai .. walaupun nmpk mcm xberkesan.. tp ni utk 10 thn punya target! siapa sangka Malaysia juga mampu melahirkn Jutawan Muda lbh baik dr Mark Zuckerberg.. p/s: Hack to Learn, Not Learn to Hack 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Satu cadangan yang menarik. Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada perisian percuma berkualiti rendah. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. skadar cadangan ja 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much other providers hated us. OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since one of the objectives of the Master Plan
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Satu cadangan yang menarik. Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada perisian percuma berkualiti rendah. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. skadar cadangan ja 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much other providers hated us. OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since one of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth of the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free trainings we were basically killing the training providers' efforts to provide FOSS programmes. To even up and to avoid to further antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to Grades F and FT only. You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for it. I approved several such applications when I was there. Eric On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama. One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS bukan dalam lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang menolak OSS adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain, contohnya DG (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG (cikgu) juga ada fighter untuk OSS. Sorry, I have no number again.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:51:19 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? OSCC exists on paper only now. Eric On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Harisfazillah I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to get the jobs done nicely. Since you Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable ppl left at there. Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too overload, until == cat /proc/loadavg == 150.00 80.00 70.00 == WAH!!! If continue like this, I think those ppl will also leave soon... -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- -- Maui Sabily 2011 GPG KeyID: DBDA3074 GPG Fingerprint: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Quds Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) Soire TV Radio (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer
Wahai Merah Satu, +1 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:03 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Reaction: I hate you. Now, please continue. On 3/15/11 9:49 PM, Garfield WTF wrote: I believe they mean by the attitude and mindset of Malaysia OSS developers and the community. As we can see now, majority of our developers and community people are fighting each others. Not united at all. Always argue about the difference and advantages of those OSS projects that they are supporting. From the most recent case, we can see that lots of distro supporters are arguing with each others about how good is the distro they are supporting. Even those Ubuntu derivatives distro supporters, are fighting with each others. Hey, come on! You are all under the same family, what for wasting time and fight who is better? What we actually need to do is to cooperate and make applications works on all distros that have common platform, such as making sure an apps, able works in all Debian and its derivatives, all Ubuntu and its derivatives as well as works in CentOS and its derivatives, Fedora and its derivatives, OpenSuse and its derivatives, FreeBSD and its derivatives etc. We should now stop to fight about our difference and start work together for a common interest. Well, because of majority of the Malaysian like to fights about the difference, this also made Malaysia labeled as a racism country where all race are fighting about their differences. If we all want to move forward towards a better future, stop fighting about our differences. Work together for a common interest start from now on! Change our mindset!!! Guess what? Because of a lot of people fighting about their derivatives distro, and argue with each others, this also made me decided to stop my DN-A (Debian Netbook-Angel) project. Because I don't want to see there is another Linux distro derivative appear and sparking more arguments. We have a lot of Linux distro already anyway, no point fork out something which have not much difference to cause more controversy... There is a lot more I wanted to say actually, but lets see how you guys react to what I have written above 1st... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Please remove me if any mention of politicians comes up again. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be terengganu's ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers providing only for m$ windows platform. on the original topic of this thread ehem... ehem i am hearing news that hitech padu will be involved in oscc and openhis. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira. Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika. Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita. Bila ye, nak buat?.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. From: Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:38:33 +0800 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah! 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika bantahan dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ tmpt taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu akn lahir anak yg bijak pandai .. walaupun nmpk mcm xberkesan.. tp ni utk 10 thn punya target! siapa sangka Malaysia juga mampu melahirkn Jutawan Muda lbh baik dr Mark Zuckerberg.. p/s: Hack to Learn, Not Learn to Hack 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Satu cadangan yang menarik. Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada perisian percuma berkualiti rendah. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. skadar cadangan ja 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much other providers hated us. OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since one of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth of the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free trainings we were basically killing the training providers' efforts to provide FOSS programmes. To even up and to avoid to further antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to Grades F and FT only. You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for it. I approved several such applications when I was there. Eric On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama. One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS bukan dalam lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang menolak OSS adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain, contohnya DG (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG (cikgu) juga ada fighter untuk OSS. Sorry, I have no number again.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:51:19 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? OSCC exists on paper only now. Eric On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Harisfazillah I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to get the jobs done nicely. Since you Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable ppl left at there. Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too overload, until == cat /proc/loadavg == 150.00 80.00 70.00 == WAH!!! If continue like
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
OSCC exists on paper only now. Eric On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Harisfazillah I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to get the jobs done nicely. Since you Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable ppl left at there. Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too overload, until == cat /proc/loadavg == 150.00 80.00 70.00 == WAH!!! If continue like this, I think those ppl will also leave soon... -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] New article: What the heck is FreeDOS?
Other than that, An OS that launches a new version every few months will make it less likely be a good candidate for everyday desktop. What people need is a stable OS, not something that get updated with new version every few months and break some of their existing software. If I run a company, I personally do not want to have my system admin to run around every few months to upgrade all the systems and then someone complains that the software they are using are now broken because of the upgrade due to an incompatible version of shared libraries (which is something very common). That is why there are paid for Enterprise Editions like SLED or RHEL. Similarly you have stuff like Ubuntu LTS, rolling distros like Gentoo, Arch or Debian. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much other providers hated us. OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since one of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth of the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free trainings we were basically killing the training providers' efforts to provide FOSS programmes. To even up and to avoid to further antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to Grades F and FT only. You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for it. I approved several such applications when I was there. Eric On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama. One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS bukan dalam lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang menolak OSS adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain, contohnya DG (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG (cikgu) juga ada fighter untuk OSS. Sorry, I have no number again.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:51:19 To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ? OSCC exists on paper only now. Eric On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Harisfazillah I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to get the jobs done nicely. Since you Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable ppl left at there. Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too overload, until == cat /proc/loadavg == 150.00 80.00 70.00 == WAH!!! If continue like this, I think those ppl will also leave soon... -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my - CS Squad VPS Hosting -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011
[osdcmy] Re: [osdcmy-public] IT Lab proposal
Good luck mate I am glad that things seem to be looking good. Cheers and GOD bless, Eric On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:32 AM, aziman noor azi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Eric. We tried 10 PC on mockup-lab with LTSP 4.0, in 60 seconds all 10 PC's boot to OpenSuSE GUI with no error. But 1 PC replaced with NIC card instead of built-in, because not stable. Then form the workstation, the PC can access cloud-os via http, like open spreadsheet and word processor, plus LMS. Need to focus more on SaaS on cloud. Thanks. 2011/2/17 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com: I am unsure you want to do LTSP. While I have not personally tried it, I have heard many horror stories about. Again, this is mere hearsay. Also, Karoshi may be just what you need http://karoshi.linuxgfx.co.uk/ openSUSE also has an education rebuild that will have all the tools you need built-in. You can get to it at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Education-Li-f-e Cheers and best of luck Eric 2011/2/14 aziman noor azi...@gmail.com: Untuk minggu ni, pembentangan akan dibuat kepada pihak pengkaji dasar, terutama Open Source Committee dalam kementerian tersebut. Memang dalam proposal akan menggunakan semula server2 yang sedia ada, tp banyak yang dah rosak melalui beberapa lawatan yang dibuat. Spec server dalam ujilari projek ini memang menggunakan server yang disediada di semua lokasi, iaitu Intel XEON. Mungkin akan gunakan mockup-lab yang sedia ada, cuma dipermurnikan dengan kaedah baru. Bro Haris, kawan saya sedang buat 'projection cost'/ TCO. Cuma saya nak input daripada saintis Linux sekalian, jika image LTSP client hanya mempunyai distro + Browser (flash,java) , ok ker? Sebab ada satu lagi pilihan, iaitu menggunakan teknologi 441. Thanks cikgu ayob nanti bila dah finalist, sy akan update disini lagik. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum, Bro. Boleh tahu kepada siapa hendak ditujukan? Bagi saya slide teknikal. Slide 2 Tukar kepada poin-poin sahaja. - flexible, cost effective solution - easily install and deploy desktop workstation - improvesTotal Cost of Ownership (TCO) - increased value overtraditional computing solutions - extremely reliable - comprehensive free and professional support Poin-poin ni sudah boleh jadi breaking-point. 2011/2/11 Aziman Bin Noor azi...@gmail.com: Aku tengah buat draft proposal untuk dibentang kpd kementerian next week. Konsep dia lebih kurang dalam slide presentation aku di http://www.scribd.com/doc/48632366 Distro apa nak pakai belum decide lagi, cuma aku perlukan seberapa banyak input untuk dikumpulkan sebagai breaking-point untuk dibentang nanti. Tapi slide tersebut, aku belum masukkan pasal untuk jadikan Webserver dan Filtering. Itu bila dah ada green-light dari kementerian kena masukkan sekali. All-in-one. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Komuniti As-Salam http://www.salamsentosa.com http://aziman.salamsentosa.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Komuniti As-Salam http://www.salamsentosa.com http://aziman.salamsentosa.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Call For Distros Workshop
So shall I. As those who know me well, I am out spoken and sometimes can be too blunt. I mean no harm to anyone. I want the best for FOSS in Malaysia. So kalau nanti bahasa kurang halus, saya minta maaf dahulu. Eric On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: Will be there also On Feb 28, 3:05 pm, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, I call for Distros workshop again and meet all of you, guys and gals and all parties and distros can present each other projects and work together to get all the projects success. No one win, and no one will gain. We really need each others. My target date is 26 March 2011. Fazli and I will arrange this. Thank you. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Re: My1OS sapu duit gomen
No intention of linking the words making love to you sweemeng...kekeke Eric On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Make Love NOT Distro Wars On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.com wrote: Oh tidak! We just love FOSS thing, share and fight is not ur rulez! Teehee Peace and Harmony! محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Syafiq, yeah, it will be even worse if brothers fighting among each others. :) -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Java is big! What is MDeC doing about it?
Agree with red1. Be independent, cannot live with a tongkat for life man. Best form of nurturing is sometimes just stop with the dasars and stuff; waste of time and money. If we want funding isn't better to first get some results to show? Cannot just sit and ask for help. Eric On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: What i learnt Swee Meng, is that govt has to get out our way, so that we can thrive. The problem is that whenever we want to do some shouting or kicking ass, they join from the other opposing side, with tons of borangs and dasar to actually complicate matters. This is not my theory. It is many socio-economists theories. Including our own Salleh Majid once wrote about it in Utusan Melayu and have to cross blast with Pemuda Umno with 'F' words in front of me. You can see it happens here. Everytime we try to organise oursleves the politikus wana hijack. It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider MDec's existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give u a free lunch anyway unless you got collateral like any housing loan. C'mon, be sober about this. No one except Karma is gonna help u. Heh Azrul, can i send my resume again to Experian? This time dont put bakul sampah yah? I now quite a master at some cool QA stuff as well as subject matter. Google my name to believe :) On 2/28/11 8:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: What I learn, sometime a community need to be more independent. While help of organization like mdec may not be a bad thing. Being independent means the community can do things the way they want. Though it help to have big guns will make thing easier, but great things happens when people each contribute it's own way. from user join in meetup and share to company hosting meetup p.s I sound optimistic On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, If you have seen The Star today, Java developers are actually getting a 'durian runtuh' and yet, what did MDeC do to encourage people to go into Java? Read my rant here [http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-is-still-big.html] Azrul -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] FLOSS in Watson
And it runs on SUSE Linux. Eric On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:41 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: For those that remember Watson the Supercomputer that plays Jeapardy recently. The article from Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence magazine, describe on Watson and the OpenQA project. http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs124/AIMagzine-DeepQA.pdf Apparently they uses a few open source component, They use UIMA for text processing, and producing annotation (meta data in a way)that is usable for computer http://uima.apache.org/ And they apache hadoop, to distribute the text processing job to several computer to make it faster. http://hadoop.apache.org/ enjoy the read(though it can be a bit heavy) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy] Working With LPI
Klang Valley must be where it starts. Things get done in KL/PJ area faster and the movers and shakers are here. Being a FOSS person and someone from Perak, I would love it if my home state becomes the epicentre for LPI or any FOSS certification programme; alas, only in KL/PJ things can feasibly get moving. So before we get all excited because of one or more capable but out of state instituition(s) is/are interested (but no signature on the dotted line) and invest time into those ventures, may I suggest putting more effort where the action is - KL/PJ. IPTA is already hopeless; yes hopeless, all talk and no action (i.e. I am interested and let's have a couple of events together but eventually people get transferred and end_of_story) and essentially managed by a bunch of politicians masquerading as academicians. IPTS i.e. not the Governement linked ones - profit oriented but easier to work with as it is easier to understand their motivation i.e. you will only need to come out with a good business proposal. Free/Open Source is free as in freedom and not free as percuma. We need to stop becoming philosphers and cheerleaders and become more business friendly. Tell people how to make money. Eric On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:57 PM, fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: TPM .. insya allah .. just kena tgk waktu dan hari . On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: TQ Nadem, Will look into the books. Fenris, We are going to do it in TPM. OK ke? On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Nadeem hero1...@gmail.com wrote: good luck i did the lpic1 101 exam last 2 weeks and it was not that easy i thought it will be easier i use two books sybex lpic-1 book and course technology book. i do recommend the sybex if you are new to linux and if you want to review quickly then course technology is shorter good luck On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM, fenris mohdfen...@gmail.com wrote: Mau join! -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy] Fwd: Open Source Education Council (OEC) - First Meeting
Sori, tersend ke Haris saje. Eric -- Forwarded message -- From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Open Source Education Council (OEC) - First Meeting To: Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Roger and I am willing. Tengah menggangur sekalang so free. I will be out of the country from March 21-25. Eric On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, OEC will have first meeting in March. Need volunteers for this and committed council members on behalf of OSS community. Eric, Ejat, Wariola, Fazli, Black, Red1, Raja and others community leaders. we need to have teh tarik session. Friends of OSS in industry is pushing us for this. So I believe we need to contribute back by admin this. Opinions needed. http://survey.mosc.my/open-source-education-council-oec -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
[osdcmy] Re: Open Source Education Council (OEC) - First Meeting
Ready and willing - also jobless and free. Out of country from March 21-25 Eric On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team, OEC will have first meeting in March. Need volunteers for this and committed council members on behalf of OSS community. Eric, Ejat, Wariola, Fazli, Black, Red1, Raja and others community leaders. we need to have teh tarik session. Friends of OSS in industry is pushing us for this. So I believe we need to contribute back by admin this. Opinions needed. http://survey.mosc.my/open-source-education-council-oec -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] IT Lab proposal
I am unsure you want to do LTSP. While I have not personally tried it, I have heard many horror stories about. Again, this is mere hearsay. Also, Karoshi may be just what you need http://karoshi.linuxgfx.co.uk/ openSUSE also has an education rebuild that will have all the tools you need built-in. You can get to it at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Education-Li-f-e Cheers and best of luck Eric 2011/2/14 aziman noor azi...@gmail.com: Untuk minggu ni, pembentangan akan dibuat kepada pihak pengkaji dasar, terutama Open Source Committee dalam kementerian tersebut. Memang dalam proposal akan menggunakan semula server2 yang sedia ada, tp banyak yang dah rosak melalui beberapa lawatan yang dibuat. Spec server dalam ujilari projek ini memang menggunakan server yang disediada di semua lokasi, iaitu Intel XEON. Mungkin akan gunakan mockup-lab yang sedia ada, cuma dipermurnikan dengan kaedah baru. Bro Haris, kawan saya sedang buat 'projection cost'/ TCO. Cuma saya nak input daripada saintis Linux sekalian, jika image LTSP client hanya mempunyai distro + Browser (flash,java) , ok ker? Sebab ada satu lagi pilihan, iaitu menggunakan teknologi 441. Thanks cikgu ayob nanti bila dah finalist, sy akan update disini lagik. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum, Bro. Boleh tahu kepada siapa hendak ditujukan? Bagi saya slide teknikal. Slide 2 Tukar kepada poin-poin sahaja. - flexible, cost effective solution - easily install and deploy desktop workstation - improvesTotal Cost of Ownership (TCO) - increased value overtraditional computing solutions - extremely reliable - comprehensive free and professional support Poin-poin ni sudah boleh jadi breaking-point. 2011/2/11 Aziman Bin Noor azi...@gmail.com: Aku tengah buat draft proposal untuk dibentang kpd kementerian next week. Konsep dia lebih kurang dalam slide presentation aku di http://www.scribd.com/doc/48632366 Distro apa nak pakai belum decide lagi, cuma aku perlukan seberapa banyak input untuk dikumpulkan sebagai breaking-point untuk dibentang nanti. Tapi slide tersebut, aku belum masukkan pasal untuk jadikan Webserver dan Filtering. Itu bila dah ada green-light dari kementerian kena masukkan sekali. All-in-one. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- Komuniti As-Salam http://www.salamsentosa.com http://aziman.salamsentosa.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] [Event] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Bring my book! On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: See you all tomorrow. My phone no 019-6085482 (haris) Date : 12 Feb 2011 Place : HackerspaceKL http://www.hackerspace.my/ http://blog.hackerspace.my/resources/how-tos/getting-to-hackerspacekl Time : 9am till 1pm. Please visit http://www.hackerspace.my/ for more info. Thanks. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM, kernel...@grouply.com wrote: I want to join... On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:05 PM, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry coz I couldn't come on 12 Feb 2011... hope to hear good news from the meeting. Ping me on my email if you need anything from me... ;) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone that want to join this workshop email me. linuxmalaysia @ gmail.com Date : 12 Feb 2011 Place : HackerspaceKL http://www.hackerspace.my/ http://blog.hackerspace.my/resources/how-tos/getting-to-hackerspacekl Time : 9am till 1pm. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Our agenda from my FB update Future out look how people will used their computers are by cloud network thats build from peer to peer computers between Internet users. No more fixed data center. Malaysian should research on making that happen. No more we because followers lets innovate. To Malaysian OSS think tanks, our distros will be toward thats. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: OpenSUSE Malaysia
Hi, Need any help in Bengkel ke...talk ke... I am free until April 2011. Bidor dekat saje dgn Ipoh and Ipoh is where I am from... Ping me if you need any help. Eric On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:32 PM, cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum.kawan2. saya...duk test opensuse 11.3 untuk komputer di lab SMK Bidor.. untuk pengenalan juga..pada oss -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Request For Adding Debian Repo Mirror
OSCC was essentially an Ubuntu+CentOS shop. Nuff said. Eric On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: Someone forgot how to use rsync? man rsync On 02/08/2011 03:53 PM, Garfield WTF wrote: @Umarzuki, Yeah, I saw a Debian directory in OSCC mirror also. But it seems like was not syncing since October 2009... On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar u...@umarzuki.org wrote: Last time there was a Debian mirror at OSCC On 02/08/2011 01:29 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: I forwarded your email to my former counter part in OSCC. Eric On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Garfield WTFgarfi...@debmal.my wrote: Guys, please help me to forward this to any Malaysia datacenter you know to increase the chances to have someone to host a Debian mirror in Malaysia for the benefit of everyone. Thank You! *GarfieldWTFhttp://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Request For Adding Debian Repo Mirror
OSCC was/is(?) part of a Government agency, serving the needs of other Government agencies. Time and again during my time there, we were reminded that the public's/rakyat's needs and wants is not the priority. After Phases 1 and 2, they are now rightfully at Phase 3, Self Reliance. So since their aim is not to cater to us, the rakyat; should we do their job for them? I would love to help them but am loathed to think that our goodwill is misused to as cheap publicity that there is a close relationship between the community and OSCC. Eric On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Ejat and I had configure sedot and crontab to do the rsync before leaving OSCC MAMPU for my current company. Thats script need to be maintain, like checking it will copy the new version and bandwidth limit also the main problem to sync. We will contact MAMPU and arrange discussion with them how we as community can contribute to maintain the mirror. Sedot https://launchpad.net/sedot On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: @Maulvi, Hmm... seems like almost all of their mirrors is not up to date. The last updates on a lot of the distro's mirrors was until August or October of 2010 only Anyway, I do not believe they don't know how to rsync, coz they able to rsync it at the begining, it means they do know how to do it. But it seems like they ceased the update for certain reason -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Suse 11.3 with libgnutls.so12 ( backward compatible )
Sounds awesome. But it is akin to ask all restaurant owners in Malaysia to work together and come out with a common dish. Good on paper but hard in practice. Eric On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: hmmm guys, I got 1 crazy idea. In order for creating harmony and unity, I would like to suggest a distro project. And this would be a super crazy idea. Lets make a distro that is using CentOS kernel, and we port apt-get aptitude as the package manager. Then put in zypper as the secondary package manager. LOL Anyone want to lead this project? -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Suse 11.3 with libgnutls.so12 ( backward compatible )
No need to maaf bro, I want to clear the air saje. Re-reading my earlier email, I also sounded like an openSUSE Taliban; jeez, me gotta get a life. IMHO all community members in Malaysia should work together and pool our resources together to achieve greater awareness and adoption of FOSS as the primary computing platform. I have upmost respect for all distros, coz what the devels are doing are simply magical. Eric On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: tuan slaya chronicles yang dihormati Open Suse memang best! saya memang teruja kalau ada sesaper leh wat suse sebagai platform dia. kalau boleh tunjuk ajar kat orang bawah macam saya ni. standard german dia memang baik sekali macam keta bmwlah. pasai tu dia strict giler dalam q's and all. ok let say in multiple booting dia pun cukuplah agak susah kalu nak mahir dgn dia sekali. pastu plak open suse punya cara installlation memang sangat menarik sekali kalu saper2 yng handal buat installation dia macam kacang putih memang terror lah. saya pun pening dengan cara dia (mungkin kerana kurang mahir dan tak biasakan diri) (keta mahallah katakan hehehehe)tu yang buat best tu hehe. That lizard gecko = pokke yang diorang dok jual sampai beratus ribu tu kat sini. (exxagerative ((puluh ribu je-mahal betul(:))) hope to tap something from orang kuat suse sendirii kat malaysia hehe Bro peace maaf kalu tesalah cakap or terkasar bahasa (taknak timbul ape aper yang provocative dan jauh sekali nak offend sesaper) maaf maaf maaf learning tak salahkan? have fun ALWAYS On Jan 27, 2:57 am, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: I need some clarifications. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:20 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum tuan truna suci presiden freebsd komuniti dan sekalaian symlink dengan /lib and /var/lib tak menjadi dalam openSUSE adalah kerana openSUSE punya standard yang sangat tinggi memang perlukan attention yang lebih kat dia, susah skit hanya leh kena bila kita gunakan cara dia saja yang pelik lagi dari yang lain. What do you mean by this? What is the standard or yang lain? Is either Debian/Red Hat/Mandriva/Slackware the standard? How do you qualify your statement and assertions? For instance, Debian also has its own way of compiling the kernel and work with its internals. It is considered to significantly different enough to have books written for understanding its internals (The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques by Martin Krafft) and guides on how to compile the Linux kernel the Debian way. That is fine as each distro is a manifestation of the freedom granted by FOSS. Like what happen sekarang ni dekat internet now google dan semakin power.So our pet pokke kite pun tak nak mengalah. Perhaps you should use LVM types ext. dia lagi friendly, friendly well untuk openSUSE sajala. How do you qualify your statement on this? Are you trying to poke fun on hard work of other people? I do hope not. This is what open standards is all about. Yes please don't downgrade your box. stick with it. better yet innovate Glad to know you agree on the freedom granted by FOSS. All distros are basically the same minus some minor distro-specific oddities. It is left to the user to choose his/her own favourite. Eric Terima kasih *semua yang baik tu hanya datang dari Allah s.w.t. dan yang tak baik tu hanyalah datang dari diri saya sendir* regards Bro 2011/1/25, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com: Hi all; i got 1 new server to install with icecore/kablink but my platform is OpenSUSE 11.3. The installer packages ( on client side running same platform ) is needed gnutls.so.12 while the current version is gnutls.so.26.. when on FreeBSD/NetBSD, i just set a symlink on /lib or /var/lib but seems it's not working here on SUSE.. aiyah... so any suggestion? i dun think to downgrade my box.. -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. Seehttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this grouphttp://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. Seehttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from
Re: [osdcmy-public] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Dear all, I have checked and the Hackerspace KL (http://www.hackerspace.my/) venue is available on 12 February 2011. As a member I have access to its lecture/activities room. I need a firm date before I will proceed in making a reservation for the room. It can comfortably sit about 15 people. Eric On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: i want join too.. +100 2011/2/1 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Gimme time, how many people and I will submit an application to see whether then is free or not. Eric On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Haaa.. Thanks bro.. Can we confirm on that. I need to change the date to 12 Feb 2011. GTUG may be on the other Saturday. PHP and python also having meetup this Feb... Fuh... Hackerspace ok then I can start officially invite. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hackerspace KL? As a member I can get the place for free. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- -- Maui Sabily 2011 GPG KeyID: DBDA3074 GPG Fingerprint: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Quds Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) Soire TV Radio (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Sorry it should be 19th Feb. I will check again. Eric On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have checked and the Hackerspace KL (http://www.hackerspace.my/) venue is available on 12 February 2011. As a member I have access to its lecture/activities room. I need a firm date before I will proceed in making a reservation for the room. It can comfortably sit about 15 people. Eric On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: i want join too.. +100 2011/2/1 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Gimme time, how many people and I will submit an application to see whether then is free or not. Eric On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Haaa.. Thanks bro.. Can we confirm on that. I need to change the date to 12 Feb 2011. GTUG may be on the other Saturday. PHP and python also having meetup this Feb... Fuh... Hackerspace ok then I can start officially invite. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hackerspace KL? As a member I can get the place for free. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- -- Maui Sabily 2011 GPG KeyID: DBDA3074 GPG Fingerprint: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Quds Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) Soire TV Radio (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Gimme time, how many people and I will submit an application to see whether then is free or not. Eric On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Haaa.. Thanks bro.. Can we confirm on that. I need to change the date to 12 Feb 2011. GTUG may be on the other Saturday. PHP and python also having meetup this Feb... Fuh... Hackerspace ok then I can start officially invite. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Hackerspace KL? As a member I can get the place for free. Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Permohonan Maklumbalas Menyertai POSIC
I am free to help after the Chinese New Year holidays. If you need to have some sort of help in holding workshops, talks etc I am open for that as well. Eric 2011/1/26 Ahmad Ferdaus Abd Razak fer1...@gmail.com: Salam hormat kepada semua, Universiti Malaysia Perlis (UniMAP) dan Sekolah Kebangsaan Sena (SK Sena) kini sedang dalam proses untuk menubuhkan Jawatankuasa Inisiatif Sumber Terbuka Perlis (Perlis Open Source Initiative Committee, POSIC), satu jawatankuasa yang akan menjalankan program-program promosi dan latihan perisian sumber terbuka di peringkat negeri. Cadangan terkini ialah untuk menjemput komuniti-komuniti sumber terbuka di seluruh Malaysia menjadi sebahagian daripada jawatankuasa tersebut melalui OSDC.my. Pohon maklumbalas tuan-tuan dan puan-puan sekalian. Dokumen-dokumen berkaitan POSIC saya muatkan dalam ruangan Files untuk rujukan, termasuk senarai aktiviti yang dicadangkan, sama ada di peringkat negeri ataupun di peringkat SK Sena. Sila maklum bahawa mungkin akan berlaku perubahan-perubahan kecil pada dokumen-dokumen berkenaan, tetapi konsep dasarnya telahpun dipersetujui oleh UniMAP dan SK Sena. Juga sekadar untuk makluman, maklumat lanjut tentang SK Sena dan program-program sumber terbuka yang telah kami jalankan ada di laman web rasmi sekolah, http://www.sksena.edu.my/. Terima kasih. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Hackerspace KL? As a member I can get the place for free. Eric On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Its will be around KL. Im trying to get a place. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Sir Beyta sir.be...@gmail.com wrote: bila bleh taw location ? nak join bleh ? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] A Response Letter to the Word Attachments
May not be a good idea for us who work for MNCs to put such disclaimers. Eric On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:20 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: abiword,gnumeric and zoho 2011/1/29 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my: @simpleLinux, yeah, this is why, there is no reason for those who are using M$ Office to not mailing a document in open document format. -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Debian Squeeze release party
+1 Garfield. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: By the way, since OpenSuse is going to do their launching party, I think it is best if we both (Debian OpenSuse) do the launching party together. By this way, we can save the cost of organizing the party, and we also can have more people to attend. The more people, the more merrier anyway. Anyone agree with me? -- GarfieldWTF Debian User Community (Malaysia) http://debmal.my -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Workshop For Distro From Malaysia
Count openSUSE in... Fazli/E1, Free then as well? Eric On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, I would like to call for a workshop for the purpose of collaboration between group of developers related to Linux distribution from Malaysia. Target date : 19 Feb 2011 (tentative) Location : To be determine later. Time : 9am till 1pm SimpleLinux, Oshirix, My1OS, Sabily (any group I miss out?), main distro group like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuse and Kumpulan Terjemahan Bahasa Melayu. Lets collaborate. Thank you. Harisfazillah Jamel ... -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
Re: [osdcmy-public] Suse 11.3 with libgnutls.so12 ( backward compatible )
Try to look for what you want in http://software.opensuse.org/search Kablink is something that Novell wanted to attract more devels. Instead of using openSUSE 11.3, perhaps you can try using SLES 11 SP1? Since the project was initiated by Novell rather that its subsidiary SUSE; SLES may be the reference platform rather than the community one. Eric On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: kablink server.. dia punye requirement banyak sgt oldskool dependencies.. nak download pun seksa carik ehhee On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote: Salam tuan.. nak buat apa ni? pemasangan untuk apa? - 102D A12B F078 CF46 39A6 B276 7A01 9650 7FEA A5B1 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com wrote: Haris; can be copied just like that and put to that lib directory? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: My suggestion. Installed the older version of the Opensuse into another machine. Copy the library files from that machine into new machine. Take care for : 1) New version OpenSuse may have symlink with the same name of old lib to new lib files. Need to remove it. 2) Its may need to be copied into /usr/lib (check OpenSuse standard directory) On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:32 PM, simpleLinux 2fz...@gmail.com wrote: ever tried alien that can decompile and then compile back rpms? http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/3/srodzaj/1/search/libgnutls.so.12 check it out haha On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:20 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] .my Domain Registry now support Jawi IDN
Interesting. Perhaps it would be of interest to those supporters of Jawi as the national script. I have nothing against Jawi; I actually learnt Jawi in primary school, but have unlearnt it over the years since both in work and school we use the Roman/Phoenecian script. It is sad that even the Government is not interested in maintaining Jawi. BTW can Jawi be typed in any of the distros? Eric 2011/1/26 azmi salim azm...@gmail.com: Hi there friends, An interesting development on IDN, .my Domain Resgistry has announced support for Jawi IDN, on top of other Unicode, European and some other selected Asian characters. Maybe you guys / gals have know this, nevertheless I'm fwd'ing it for an update. Pardon for repetition :) Regards, AZMI Salim following is some excerpts of the announcement --- Dear Valued Customers, We are proud to announce that .my DOMAIN REGISTRY now supports Internationalized Domain Name (IDN). An IDN (also known as multilingual domain name) is a domain name that contains Unicode characters other than the basic 37 ASCII characters permitted to-date (a-z , 0-9 and -). In other words, an IDN may contain letters with diacritics (for example, façade) as required by many European languages or characters drawn from non-Latin scripts such as Jawi / Arabic, Chinese or Tamil. Many countries have started to offer domain names in their local scripts to allow more of their population access the Internet. Amongst the first few countries to deploy top level IDN are Egypt (مصر ), Saudi Arabia (السعودية ) and United Arab Emirates (امارات ) – all on the 5th May 2010. Even two of our neighboring countries, Thailand and Singapore, have implemented IDN. For Malaysia, we have decided to offer 2nd Level IDNs, starting with Jawi (for example, مليسيا.my). Chinese and Tamil IDNs are also in the pipeline and will be implemented progressively. For Jawi IDNs, the roll out will be in 3 phases. In the first phase, registration of Jawi IDNs is specifically for government agencies and government educational entities. Registrations start from 24th January 2011 until 30th April 2011. The first phase Jawi IDNs will be free of charge for one year. Government agencies and government educational entities are encouraged to secure their Jawi IDNs as soon as possible. Existing .my customers will enjoy Jawi IDNs in the second phase, and in the third phase, Jawi IDNs will be opened to the public. Do keep an eye open for the announcements on the second and third phase roll out to secure your own Jawi IDN! For more information about IDN, do visit our FAQ page at http://www.domainregistry.my/faq.php?id=98. Please do not hesitate to e-mail dom...@domainregistry.my or call us at 03 - 8991 7272 if you have any enquiries. Yours sincerely, .my DOMAIN REGISTRY MYNIC Berhad (735031-H) | Tel : +603-8991 7272 Level 3, Block C | Fax : +603-8991 7277 Mines Waterfront Business Park | E-mail : dom...@domainregistry.my (Registration) No. 3, Jalan Tasik | bill...@domainregistry.my (Billing) The Mines Resort City | URL : http://www.domainregistry.my 43300 Seri Kembangan | Work. Hr : 0830-1730MYT(Mon - Fri) Selangor Darul Ehsan | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] Suse 11.3 with libgnutls.so12 ( backward compatible )
I need some clarifications. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:20 PM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum tuan truna suci presiden freebsd komuniti dan sekalaian symlink dengan /lib and /var/lib tak menjadi dalam openSUSE adalah kerana openSUSE punya standard yang sangat tinggi memang perlukan attention yang lebih kat dia, susah skit hanya leh kena bila kita gunakan cara dia saja yang pelik lagi dari yang lain. What do you mean by this? What is the standard or yang lain? Is either Debian/Red Hat/Mandriva/Slackware the standard? How do you qualify your statement and assertions? For instance, Debian also has its own way of compiling the kernel and work with its internals. It is considered to significantly different enough to have books written for understanding its internals (The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques by Martin Krafft) and guides on how to compile the Linux kernel the Debian way. That is fine as each distro is a manifestation of the freedom granted by FOSS. Like what happen sekarang ni dekat internet now google dan semakin power.So our pet pokke kite pun tak nak mengalah. Perhaps you should use LVM types ext. dia lagi friendly, friendly well untuk openSUSE sajala. How do you qualify your statement on this? Are you trying to poke fun on hard work of other people? I do hope not. This is what open standards is all about. Yes please don't downgrade your box. stick with it. better yet innovate Glad to know you agree on the freedom granted by FOSS. All distros are basically the same minus some minor distro-specific oddities. It is left to the user to choose his/her own favourite. Eric Terima kasih *semua yang baik tu hanya datang dari Allah s.w.t. dan yang tak baik tu hanyalah datang dari diri saya sendir* regards Bro 2011/1/25, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com: Hi all; i got 1 new server to install with icecore/kablink but my platform is OpenSUSE 11.3. The installer packages ( on client side running same platform ) is needed gnutls.so.12 while the current version is gnutls.so.26.. when on FreeBSD/NetBSD, i just set a symlink on /lib or /var/lib but seems it's not working here on SUSE.. aiyah... so any suggestion? i dun think to downgrade my box.. -- $ uname -a NetBSD 5.0.2 NetBSD 5.0.2 (GENERIC) #0: Sat Feb 6 17:53:27 UTC 2010 bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 in KL 3rd 4th 5th and 6th July 2011
+1 Let's focus on getting the event off the ground. Since we are not in the Public Sector nor are we providing any formal training, having to manage certs will just be draining the resources. After all, nobody is paid to organise MOSC 2011 right? So since all are volunteers I am unsure we can afford to pile more things on the plate. Just my 2 cents Eric On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: Dapat Sijil ke? Di Iktiraf oleh mana pihak tu? Nak Jugak la klu mcmni.. Mna boleh dptkan sijil ni (^_^)v 2011/1/20 riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com bagus tu kalau dapat bawa balik sijil penyertaan tentu hebat mungkin diiktiraf punya so leh lak buat cari kerja lain thank you brolinux 2011/1/18 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: tahun lepas punya ada lagi :p On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Haris bin Ali ha...@qedx.com wrote: Cadangan: Audio promo clip untuk dihantar ke podcast-podcast open source dan teknologi What say you? //ha...@qedx.com On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds good but one must bear in mind that there are training providers out there and the last thing we want is to compete with them. On the other hand, if we involve them, get them to sponsor a workshop, put their name in, that will be awesome. Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:19 PM, saiful akusai...@gmail.com wrote: how about half day workshop or fullday for specific topic, and participant must paid to join the workshop just to cent On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Business track will surely be appreciated by the sponsors and the intended crowd they want to attract. MOSC could be more business friendly by adding an additional Business track and making the booths more accessible. The number one question that many traditional business people want to know is how to make money or save money by going the FOSS way. Perhaps with a track dedicated to their interests, it would attract more sponsorship? Of course I am just thinking out loud and more planning is required. Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Noted that bro... We also considering that, the schedule is not yet fully disscuss, waiting for the website to be ready so we can discuss together. We can cut cost a lot here by cutting one day. :) One more suggestion I should share. To name the 3 tracks just only track1 track2 and track3 for example. And speakers will be mixed into the tracks. Developers, Business or community will be in any tracks. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Just an observation. Will 3 days be a little too long for the event? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Maui Sabily 2010 GPG KeyID: DBDA3074 GPG Fingerprint: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2010 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 in KL 3rd 4th 5th and 6th July 2011
That sounds good but one must bear in mind that there are training providers out there and the last thing we want is to compete with them. On the other hand, if we involve them, get them to sponsor a workshop, put their name in, that will be awesome. Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:19 PM, saiful akusai...@gmail.com wrote: how about half day workshop or fullday for specific topic, and participant must paid to join the workshop just to cent On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Business track will surely be appreciated by the sponsors and the intended crowd they want to attract. MOSC could be more business friendly by adding an additional Business track and making the booths more accessible. The number one question that many traditional business people want to know is how to make money or save money by going the FOSS way. Perhaps with a track dedicated to their interests, it would attract more sponsorship? Of course I am just thinking out loud and more planning is required. Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Noted that bro... We also considering that, the schedule is not yet fully disscuss, waiting for the website to be ready so we can discuss together. We can cut cost a lot here by cutting one day. :) One more suggestion I should share. To name the 3 tracks just only track1 track2 and track3 for example. And speakers will be mixed into the tracks. Developers, Business or community will be in any tracks. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Just an observation. Will 3 days be a little too long for the event? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Hahano worries man... Eric On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: OK noted. Sudah mengantuk lah Eric. :p On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Please put a comma between Novell and Oracle. We are not nor have been part of Oracle. :P Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 in KL 3rd 4th 5th and 6th July 2011
Just an observation. Will 3 days be a little too long for the event? Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, After much much discussion about where and when Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011. Its will be in Kuala Lumpur. We are looking for place. The date will be 3rd July 2011 till 6 July 2011. 3rd July Sunday will be open to all... Malaysia OSS Community day 4 5 6 July will be the conference day Target budget 200K (more sponsors needed) Core team :- Fazli, Rizal, E1, Najah, Zaman and myself Others who want to contribute time, energy can join this group http://groups.google.com/group/mosc2011 Website http://www.mosc.my/ will be ready soon. We are using Joomla and Open Conference Systems http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ocs old content can be view here MOSC2010 http://conf.oss.my/ http://portal.mosc.my/ Call for speakers end of January 2011 Thank you. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 in KL 3rd 4th 5th and 6th July 2011
Business track will surely be appreciated by the sponsors and the intended crowd they want to attract. MOSC could be more business friendly by adding an additional Business track and making the booths more accessible. The number one question that many traditional business people want to know is how to make money or save money by going the FOSS way. Perhaps with a track dedicated to their interests, it would attract more sponsorship? Of course I am just thinking out loud and more planning is required. Eric On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Noted that bro... We also considering that, the schedule is not yet fully disscuss, waiting for the website to be ready so we can discuss together. We can cut cost a lot here by cutting one day. :) One more suggestion I should share. To name the 3 tracks just only track1 track2 and track3 for example. And speakers will be mixed into the tracks. Developers, Business or community will be in any tracks. On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Just an observation. Will 3 days be a little too long for the event? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Please put a comma between Novell and Oracle. We are not nor have been part of Oracle. :P Eric On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Our target date for official lauching of OEC will be early March 2011. Date will be set later. I will call for meeting early Feb. This time will get all of us to get into the boat... Najah is our contact person for OEC. To Do :- 1) Online survey... We need to get more info regard to jobs thats related to OSS. I need to get this prepare by end of Feb 2011 - Need all the help like to pass the online survey to HR and Bosses. :) 2) We had Red Hat, MSU and Jobstreet during the first media interview. We do this as intel for us to know the interest of the parties. Look like they are willing to cooperate with us. And now we need to involved more, suggestion :- - Novell Oracle - UPM UTM UiTM - MAMPU JPM MDeC - Community leaders OSDC.my Ubuntu.my Fedora.my OpenSuse and more . (kita kan ramai) 3) From this email thread, we can compile action plan that we can discuss during the meeting on the day of the launch. lets see what we archive from meeting with all of them... Thats all for now... Thanks. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Soon This is only pre-launch to start the momentum. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
If you want involve the Govt be ready to accept their shit. That's all. I had enough of it when I was in OSCC. Sad to say the Malaysian Government is NEVER a pleasure to deal with. I would rather deal with Microsoft or Oracle. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, saiful akusai...@gmail.com wrote: vote JB or Penang but speaker list dan topic kena boom dengen current situation, pengisian jugak aku rasa perlu ubah dari tahun2 sebelum buat something new yg tak pernah kita buat, contohnya invitation untuk budak sekolah menengah sekitar kawasan - untuk sesi lawatan, handle 'counter game' atau develop oss product antara sekolah, buat kerjasama dengan MOE dan kerajaan Pulau Pinang, mintak hantar beberapa pegawai kerajaan dari pelbagai agensi, atau present paper (AMDI, UNIMAP), kita mesti ada target group, apa yg aku perhatikan dalam MOSC banyak community yg join, tp dalam MyGOSSCON, ramai penjawat awam yg datang lepak, salah satu event BOF dalam mygosscon tahun nih tak berapa menjadi berbanding tahun sebelum ia dianjurkan. last year punye BOF lebih happening, ini pandangan peribadi aku la sebab aku ada pada setiap tahun di gosscon dan mosc. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com wrote: I have no pb (JB or Penang) as long as speakers are provided with proper transport and accomodations Azrul On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, lutfi raffi lutfira...@gmail.com wrote: + JB On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: I don't where it would be. But then a road trip would definitely more fun than KL On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Ah well, out of KL will be good. JB is only better because of the proximity to SG and the potential crowd it may bring. Penang...pretty much a dead town when it comes to FOSS Eric On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: if you want, I can suggest/survey it :p On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com wrote: Have u consider d cost already? Venue, contractors, ap, fb, man power, printing, av and so on? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Mustakim Ahmad chi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43 am Subject: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Vote for JB On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: kalau nak buat luar dari kuala lumpur, JB maybe a better choice since lagi accessible to singapore. this can probably help to increase attendance that you will lose from the day trip crowds in KL AJ On 6 January 2011 09:28, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote: Wahhh.. jauhnya bos.. محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, This is still under discussion and need community feedback. MOSC2011 suggested to be at Pulau Pinang. Feed back please. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- A. Johan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- When there are Thousand of People go against you and only one at your side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
JB will be better. And for those who vote for either JB or PG just because nearer to your respective hometowns/kampungs I think that is selfish. PG is quite bad when it comes to FOSS. in JB at least we can possibly get some people from SG. Eric On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, This is still under discussion and need community feedback. MOSC2011 suggested to be at Pulau Pinang. Feed back please. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
Ah well, out of KL will be good. JB is only better because of the proximity to SG and the potential crowd it may bring. Penang...pretty much a dead town when it comes to FOSS Eric On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: if you want, I can suggest/survey it :p On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com wrote: Have u consider d cost already? Venue, contractors, ap, fb, man power, printing, av and so on? Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Mustakim Ahmad chi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43 am Subject: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Vote for JB On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: kalau nak buat luar dari kuala lumpur, JB maybe a better choice since lagi accessible to singapore. this can probably help to increase attendance that you will lose from the day trip crowds in KL AJ On 6 January 2011 09:28, Muhammad Syafiq creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote: Wahhh.. jauhnya bos.. محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli http://syafiq.me 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, This is still under discussion and need community feedback. MOSC2011 suggested to be at Pulau Pinang. Feed back please. Thanks. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- A. Johan -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.info jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Depa dah mula.. kita bila lagi? nak tunggu MYGOSSCON 2020 kah?
The current ruling regime has not the vision nor the balls to move to FOSS. If they move to FOSS makan apa lar? Eric On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote: [image: goss1.png] - 102D A12B F078 CF46 39A6 B276 7A01 9650 7FEA A5B1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://www.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Is Oracle Evil?
I am sure you are aware that you can contribute without owning the product, much like how Novell contributed to OO.o, GNOME, KDE, Kernel etc etc without owning/leading any one of the projects right? So while Oracle is mostly known to be a proprietary company, they do have a dedicated FOSS/Linux team and have contributed codes to many projects. Yes, Unbreakable Linux is just CentOS with Yast but then that is the freedom granted by FOSS. So as long they put a feasible business model and wrap SLA around it, they we can even repackage Debian and call it what ever they want. Ubuntu did the same! And nobody seems to be screaming bloody revenge I am no Oracle fanboy and much less of Larry Ellison but due credit must be given, regardless of the company's reputation. I am not too worried about what will happen to MySQL, OO.o or Java. MySQL's codes are in the Net (and now there is MariaDB); if you use any of the paid-for Enterprise distros, it will be supported for 5-7 years; OO.o you can go LibreOffice, StarOffice or Symphony. Java? Well there is OpenJDK. Eric On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Oracle has contributed a lot to FOSS especially to the Linux kernel. Also comes to mind VirtualBox, NetBeans. I didn't realize that Oracle had made contributions to the Linux kernel until you mentioned it. That's good, but my search results revealed some doubt about their motives even in their contributions to FLOSS. See http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/oracles-new-kernel-rhel-clone-real-truth VirtualBox and NetBeans were actually Sun Microsystems' products that they acquired through their own business acquisitions. Oracle might (I hope) do wonderful things with them, but I think it's still too soon to give Oracle any credit. I am familiar with Oracle's Unbreakable Linux product and I always thought of that as a positive thing, but there has been a some criticism of Oracle there too. See http://practical-tech.com/operating-system/the-real-point-of-unbreakable-linux-breaking-red-hat/ ... It's an old article which precedes Oracle's purchase of Sun. The re-branding, I can live with it, after all they did buy SUN; but I guess the most unsavoury part of it is how they treated OpenSolaris and MySQL. The law suits wont do them any good either. Also Ellson's reputation is enough to make something nice and pure into something seedy and unsavoury. Eric -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Is Oracle Evil?
Oracle has contributed a lot to FOSS especially to the Linux kernel. Also comes to mind VirtualBox, NetBeans. The re-branding, I can live with it, after all they did buy SUN; but I guess the most unsavoury part of it is how they treated OpenSolaris and MySQL. The law suits wont do them any good either. Also Ellson's reputation is enough to make something nice and pure into something seedy and unsavoury. Eric On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:06 PM, linuxmalaysia linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Oracle. Im still wait and see. But Oracle already give an erk to me. They just replace SUN with Oracle and try to rebranding SUN. Hmmm. Wrong move for me if really want to get community to be on their side. By attacking Google, they already making enemies with OSS community. I would say, 1 more step wrongly they took it, it will be a war On Dec 18, 10:02 pm, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: Boy I sure stirred up some flames with my post about Novell on the Ubuntu Malaysia Mailing list (Novell, Open Source? ... Hah! :https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-my/2010-December/003381.html). The ongoing conversation has turned to an even bigger villain: Oracle. They killed OpenSolaris and sued Google for their Java implementation. We're not sure what they're going to do with OpenOffice, but now we have LibreOffice. And we're worried about what they're going to do to MySQL and VirtualBox. Professionally, I have a long history with Oracle's proprietary products that precedes my awareness of FLOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOSS. At first, I was just going to continue replying to the email thread, but I wanted better exposure and, hopefully, more feedback. So I wrote a blog entry... http://www.ghodmode.com/blog/2010/12/is-oracle-evil/ I'm cross-posting this email to a couple of related mailing lists as well as BCC-ing a few people in this field whose opinion I respect. Please take a look and, if you have anything to add, comment on the article. It's a quick read, but I've linked to some other related stories that are also good reads. Incidentally, those stories also link to other related stories that also link to other related stories... They're all good reads and this has kept me busy for a week :-} Thank you. -- Vince Aggrippino a.k.a. Ghodmode For more information, or a sample of my work, visit my site atwww.ghodmode.comhttp://www.ghodmode.com -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
Why wasn't Novell invited to the interview? Eric On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, sure. The spokespersons :- • Mohd Fazli Azran of the Open Source Developers Club • Professor Dr. Md Gapar, Vice President, Faculty of Info Science Engineering, Management Science University • Dr. Albert Wong, Chief Technology Officer, Jobstreet Malaysia • Alan Ho, Senior Manager, Services Marketing, Red Hat APAC Media :- 1. PC.com 2. Berita Harian 3. New Straits Times 4. Harian Metro The objective of the media interview:- • Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. • Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. • Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. • Announce the formation of the Open Source Developers Community and its goals to ensure the healthy, sustainable and accredited growth of open source skill sets and professionals in Malaysia. Fazli Azran explained on OSDC.my, recent activities and what’s OSDC.my’s planning. There is an urgent need to increase the number of accredited open source professionals in the industry to meet growing demands. The establishment of the Open Source Development Community serves to ensure that the quality of open source professionals is not compromised by establishing set standards which are agreed upon by acadamia, industry players as well as the open source community itself. Prof Gapar elaboration on the concept of open source and what are the benefits of it. There is a high demand in OSS. MSU’s OSS implementation in their education syllabus. Dr Albert explains more on the supply and demand in OSS. Reseach by Jobstreet indicates that there is a definite increase in demand amongst employers for graduates and professionals who have undergone specific technical skills training in open source, virtualization and cloud computing, which marks an important shift in human capital demand in the IT industry. Dr Albert also mention Jobstreet as a case study where Jobstreet also use Open Source Technology. Alan Ho explains on Red Hat’s involvement in the OSS community. Technical skills like IT training and certification add value to the marketability of IT graduates and professionals alike. The needs of small and medium company, large company etc. Virtualization and cloud. Well, this is just a part of the discussion. Will spare some time to update more. Regards, Yun On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks yun and OSS friends for arranging this. Can you provide notes what had been discuss during the press interview? Who attending? Today is the starting point for more from companies, government agencies, universities and community them self to join and establish official OEC for our platform and forum to discuss and lobbying OSS education. We need to have TT session with others in our community to help us making this happen. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Najah khairunna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)
I will have some vacation time coming up. Training...hmmm...right up my alley. Haris should know.:-P How can I help? Eric On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more feedback. Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC) Objective Establish the importance and need for IT graduates and professionals to enhance their skill sets in open source, cloud computing and virtualisation to move towards a high-income economy. Identify value added benefits to IT graduates and professionals as well as trends amongst IT employers. Identify available certification programmes which provide local graduates with opportunities to expand their skill sets and talents worldwide. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Register For AMDI USM OSS Day Northern Region
How will this event be organised? Will there be a CFP? No info or draft agenda yet. Eric On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Register For AMDI USM OSS Day Northern Region AMDI USM OSS DAY are conducted with the collaboration of Open Source Development Club Malaysia (OSDC.my) to aware the people, especially to the students about open source software is freedom, secure and easy to use. Date : 23 Dec 2010 Time : 08:00 - 17:00 Venue : Hotel Seri Malaysia, Kepala Batas, Pulau Pinang Malaysia Registration : Online Form below http://www.mosc.my/events/amdi-usm-oss-day Facebook AMDI USM Event Page http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=166108300078324 AMDI USM OSS DAY will show a variety of interactive mix of activities that consistent with the objective to promote and bring awareness about Open Source Software in general. Some of the events to be held are: - Seminar: 9 talks related to the awareness of Open Source will be held consisting of activists, consumers, application developers or experienced specialists who also come from the Open Source industry itself. Demonstration: as with any conference, AMDI USM OSS DAY will be holding a demonstration open to visitors who present at the event square. The demonstration is consist by activists, community and society where will provide an opportunity for visitors to know and see more closely what is open source and proprietary technology. We also promote activities in the demonstration area to enliven the program. TARGET PARTICIPANT • Students of Higher Education Institutions and equivalent - regarded as the best receiver in the new things that can attract their attention as well as encouraging them to introduce to other local computer users plus looking at career prospects in this field. • School students - exposing them of educational opportunities until to the employment opportunities in related areas and reveal the ability of Open Source in the period ahead. • Government agencies, staff from public servants and private - provide a broad exposure to officer or employee on the ability of Open Source as well as encourage them to make the overall implementation to their department or respective ministries. • Community and Society - all open source communities and societies around the event area. • Community and Environment - allows them aware of the existence of alternatives in computer software applications. About Institut Perubatan dan Pergigian Termaju (Advanced Medical Dental Institute),Universiti Sains Malaysia (AMDI USM). Penang. http://www.amdi.usm.edu.my/ More information please email to secretar...@mosc.my MOSC2011 Twitter http://twitter.com/mosc2011 Malaysia Open Source Conference 2011 http://www.mosc.my/ Facebook Fan Page http://www.facebook.com/mosc2011 Facebook Event Page http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=152695794775143 Identi.ca http://identi.ca/mosc2011 http://bit.ly/mosc2011 -- I love Aardvark! Join my network so we can help each other out... http://vark.com/s/foGQ My Facebook http://www.facebook.com/linuxmalaysia My Blog http://blog.harisfazillah.info/ My Network http://www.facebook.com/Bukan.Sekadar.Internet.Sahaja -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Target Date For MOSC2011
Sweemeng, Nothing satisfies you eh? Why don't you give some constructive comments of inviting people who can pay i.e. sponsor rather than sniping? Dude you need to get laid. Male or female up to you but keep it human. Eric On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:13 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: and use it to lock user and force user to a certain version, and lock user out. yeah samsung and se is a good example of foss user On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: Samsung, SE uses Android which is based on the FOSS Linux kernel. They may have something to showcase. Eric On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: jacob, all 5 are great points perhaps if we start really early, we should also approach non-traditional sponsors, like airasia, maxis, celcom, nokia, sony-ericsson, samsung, p1, ytl, mph, popular, al-ikhsan, etc 1. Decide who will be the focus group for the conference - is it business folks (ie CxO, IT Managers etc), OSS community/practitioners, entrepreneurs, govt, general public, etc ? Each group has different needs and expectations. It is difficult to give equal focus for many groups in one conference. Each group also attracts different sponsors. From past MOSC (2009 2011), the technical tracks/sessions attracted the most crowd and my guess is over 90% of the crowd are from the OSS community/ practitioners. I am also guessing only few business folks attended the talks. 2. Organise more sessions to suit the focus group. Business folks will probably like to hear from other business folks i.e. end-users talking on how they gained from using OSS in their organisation. Perhaps the potential sponsors can help persuade their customers to present. Get end-users from small, medium and large organisations if possible to give a good mix and attract all types of business folks. Consider partnering with a visible business grouping eg FMM, SMI Malaysia etc. 3. For this year, perhaps more tutorials/ clinics can be organised to gain interest from the OSS community/practitioners. These sessions could be customised for different audience e.g. IT tech/software support, civil/mech/EE engineers, teachers, students, designers, artists etc. Get support from relevant govt bodies to subsidise the fees, so it will give MOSC the added attraction and edge. 4. Arrange for Venture Capital companies and Angels (local international) to hold sessions/clinics for start-ups and entrepreneurs involved in OSS related development who are seeking for seed funding, advisory support etc. Many are seeking to expand beyond local market - so help organise activities that will help them in this area. Perhaps you can partner with some relevant organisation such as TeAM, PlugPlay etc. 5. Get suitable publication on board early to promote the event such as business papers (ie Edge, Malaysian Business etc), IT magazines (ie Computerworld), online technology websites (ie ZDNet, CNet, etc) and many others. Get the media-savvy experts involved if possible. Hope this helps. - Jacob -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Target Date For MOSC2011
Samsung, SE uses Android which is based on the FOSS Linux kernel. They may have something to showcase. Eric On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: jacob, all 5 are great points perhaps if we start really early, we should also approach non-traditional sponsors, like airasia, maxis, celcom, nokia, sony-ericsson, samsung, p1, ytl, mph, popular, al-ikhsan, etc 1. Decide who will be the focus group for the conference - is it business folks (ie CxO, IT Managers etc), OSS community/practitioners, entrepreneurs, govt, general public, etc ? Each group has different needs and expectations. It is difficult to give equal focus for many groups in one conference. Each group also attracts different sponsors. From past MOSC (2009 2011), the technical tracks/sessions attracted the most crowd and my guess is over 90% of the crowd are from the OSS community/ practitioners. I am also guessing only few business folks attended the talks. 2. Organise more sessions to suit the focus group. Business folks will probably like to hear from other business folks i.e. end-users talking on how they gained from using OSS in their organisation. Perhaps the potential sponsors can help persuade their customers to present. Get end-users from small, medium and large organisations if possible to give a good mix and attract all types of business folks. Consider partnering with a visible business grouping eg FMM, SMI Malaysia etc. 3. For this year, perhaps more tutorials/ clinics can be organised to gain interest from the OSS community/practitioners. These sessions could be customised for different audience e.g. IT tech/software support, civil/mech/EE engineers, teachers, students, designers, artists etc. Get support from relevant govt bodies to subsidise the fees, so it will give MOSC the added attraction and edge. 4. Arrange for Venture Capital companies and Angels (local international) to hold sessions/clinics for start-ups and entrepreneurs involved in OSS related development who are seeking for seed funding, advisory support etc. Many are seeking to expand beyond local market - so help organise activities that will help them in this area. Perhaps you can partner with some relevant organisation such as TeAM, PlugPlay etc. 5. Get suitable publication on board early to promote the event such as business papers (ie Edge, Malaysian Business etc), IT magazines (ie Computerworld), online technology websites (ie ZDNet, CNet, etc) and many others. Get the media-savvy experts involved if possible. Hope this helps. - Jacob -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Target Date For MOSC2011
I think it is better to make sure businesses aka sponsors get maximum exposure this time. Many vendors expressed disgust that MOSC 2010 seemed more like a big bash for the community rather than business-friendly. Note - I don't mean to demean the Herculean efforts of the MOSC 2010 Organising Committee, but only to say it as it was told to me. If sponsors are to come in, we gotta make sure that they have more opportunities to press flesh with potential customers and exchange name cards with those in the industry. Sad to say, while the community is awesome, we usually don't buy. Perhaps we can put the booths on the same area as the makan/minum place. Eric On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Lets we decide that around Feb 2011 after we know how much we can get from sponsorship. On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote: Where it will be held this time On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: I have update all important milestone using Lighthouse for project team and all to comments and give feedback. http://mosc2011.lighthouseapp.com/projects/63492-mosc2011-oss-conference/overview For info, project team not yet officially establish. I have only till end of this year to properly team up this team. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Day Northern Region AMDI USM
Is there a fixed date? I need to block my time so as nothing is conflicted. How soon can we confirm the date? Eric On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, AMDI USM has request us the OSS community to arrange an OSS day Northen Region. What we need? We need speakers... Please fill in this form and in the remark briefly tell us your what you want to share during OSS Day Northern Region. The tentative date will be 22 Dec 2010. Form https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/mosc.my/viewform?hl=enformkey=dFR5dFM0cWhSRmNMSldlQjBQdGpUaHc6MA#gid=0 About Institut Perubatan dan Pergigian Termaju (Advanced Medical Dental Institute),Universiti Sains Malaysia (AMDI USM). http://www.amdi.usm.edu.my/ Thank you. -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comosdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en
