Re: [ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains
hi, i have suffered from severe afterpains after my second and third children, talking to my gp afterwards she said it would have helped if i had upped my magnesium intake prior to birth alison On 4/2/06, Nicole Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lyn, Voltaren PR may have some impact, but the woman may not notice as I am sure after pains would still break through voltaren. A fast acting analgesic given pre feed may be more appropriate, as at other times there is no pain at all. Might be worth a chat with a pharmacist. However, I find a hot pack is quite effective in taking attention away from the pain. It may also help to know that the pains are not going to last for long, and mean that she will lose less blood due to her very effective contractions. Anyone who has these pains does have my sympathy! Nicole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lyn lyn Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:02 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of lyn lyn Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:02 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains Thanks Nicole and Megan for your responses. Do you think that maybe voltaren pr would be of any help. lyn -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains
Thanks Nicole and Megan for your responses. Do you think that maybe voltaren pr would be of any help. lyn
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Hi Lyn, Voltaren PRmay have some impact, but the woman may not notice as I am sure after pains would still break through voltaren.A fast acting analgesic given pre feed maybe more appropriate, as at other times there is no pain at all. Might be worth a chat with a pharmacist. However, I finda hot pack is quite effective in taking attention away from the pain. It may also help to know that the pains are not going to last for long, and mean that she will lose less blood due to her very effective contractions. Anyone who has these pains does have my sympathy! Nicole. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of lyn lynSent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:02 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] afterbirth pains Thanks Nicole and Megan for your responses. Do you think that maybe voltaren pr would be of any help. lyn
Re: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains
Ive found withe the use of Jasmin essential oil rubbed on the lower abdomen and drinking raspberry leaf tea the pain is reduced too.
[ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains
I have always found hot packs soothing for after pains. Judy From: "Marty Tina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:57:26 +1000 Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in th! ! at situation (in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H. Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Click here for more. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains
Dear Tina,Since working in home birth for the past 18 months or so, I have managed almost all of the third stages of birth physiologically. Thewomen who have anticipated"killer afterbirth pains" because of their previous experiences have - without exception - had less severe afterbirth pains following a physiological birth of the placenta. The syntocinon given for active management seems to set the woman up for profound involution action and consequent increased pain. Grandmulti's tell me the afterpains get worse with each birth, but several of the women I refer to above were having their sixth babies (and first home births and first physiological third stage), with dramatically less involution pain felt. We routinely give arnica after the birth, use warm packs placed on the lower abdomen during feeds, and paracetamol taken before each feed (no more than the recommended dosage per 24 hours of course) is also helpful. However, I feel confident you will experience less involution pain with a physiologicalthird stage. Good luck, and let us know how you get on. Cheers, Lois - Original Message - From: Marty Tina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in that situation(in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H.
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An addit to my previous comments - forgot to talk about the kids. Most children are attracted to the tub, and often ask if they canget in before the birth. However when they see anything 'icky' floating in the tub they're usually put off. It is common for the Dad to be in the tub helping the mother during the labour and birth (maybe even catching the baby with the mother). The children will probably be wide-eyed in awe of the arrival of their sister or brother. My advice would be to just let them follow their own instincts regarding their level of involvement and contact... they will know what's right for them. Just allow them plenty of time for their own personal adjustment. Have a look at my website photo gallery www.birthjourney.com to viewsome wonderful moments of whole families participating in the birth of their siblings. You could also show the children, so they see that it's "normal and OK" because they've seen other kids experiencing birth first hand. I suppose you have shown them some of the lovely children's books, like "Hello Baby" and "There's a house inside my Mummy"... there are others too -- they are great. Good luck. Lois - Original Message - From: Marty Tina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in that situation(in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H.
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Thankyou to those who have replied so far... I forgot to say that our other children are almost 9yo, 6.5yo, and 3.5yo. I have been preparing them as much as I know how... borrowing videos from the birth centre books. Talking about the way the baby may look feel. Making them very aware that I usually make allot of noise why mothers make noise when giving birth. They have always known where babies enter the world from have been quite interested in the video's of women giving birth how the vaginal opening gets so big (we have had many an interesting discussion about that one). Our children have made their own decision about being at the birth my two sisters are going to be their support people. They have come to the hospital met our midwife on many occasions. They know they can leave the room at any time they wish. MY big concern now is that they won't get to the hospital on time if they are at school (their support people will collect them as soon as I go into labour) due to the fact that I usually have fast labours. Oh well... trying to prepare themfor all possibilities. Looking excitedly forward to labour, birth, meeting this new little person starting breastfeeding all over again (I've been pregnant or breastfeeding for the past 10 yeas approx). Tina H.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains
Homeopathic Arnica 30c Twice a day is what many women at home use Denise - Original Message - From: Judy Chapman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:53 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains I have always found hot packs soothing for after pains. Judy From: "Marty Tina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:57:26 +1000 Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in th! ! at situation (in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H. Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Click here for more. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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With the children, I say things like isnt your mum clevershe knows the right noises to help a baby out this short circuits a whole conversation about pain.. the noise seems the most confusing for children in a society where we are very restrained with sound and this gives them a simple and powerful answer to their questions/confusion about the strange noise that their mum makes. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife In any society, the way a woman gives birth and the kind of care given to her and the baby, points as sharply as an arrowhead to the key values of the culture. ~Sheila Kitzinger-Women as Mothers
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Hi, All, Reminds me of Leslie's comments on Rosie's birth: "Sometimes you were really, really, REALLY loud!" When (years later) I ask if it scared him at the time: "No, but I had to put my hands over my ears." At no time was he upset during my labour and Rosie's birth. He says enjoyed the experience -- and photos show that. Aviva - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains With the children, I say things like isnt your mum clevershe knows the right noises to help a baby out this short circuits a whole conversation about pain.. the noise seems the most confusing for children in a society where we are very restrained with sound and this gives them a simple and powerful answer to their questions/confusion about the strange noise that their mum makes. Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "In any society, the way a woman gives birth and the kind of care given to her and the baby, points as sharply as an arrowhead to the key values of the culture. ~Sheila Kitzinger-Women as Mothers --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/03
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Hi, I'm Terry Stockdale an Independent Midwife in Hobart, I find a combination of Arnica Homeopathically and verbernum tincture herbal (taken separately)seem to take the edge at bay, otherwise voltaren tabs 50mgs 8 hourly seem to hit the spot. It is most important to keep the bladder empty especially just before breastfeeding as this causes surges of afterbirth contractions and will be stronger with a full bladder. Hot packs and you can hire a TENS machine that is often used for period pains. one of my women felt this was heaven. Best wishes Terry - Original Message - From: Marty Tina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in that situation(in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H.
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Good luck to you all. I experienced bad after birth pains that too were no only just like labour but worse I think because you just want to adore your baby and watch the family etc but the pain is distracting. I found pon nstan and hot pack were the most effective (I have had four babies and this seemed the best). My fourth was a water birth which was heaven in that the feeling you get in your bum passed really quickly and the crowning which with the others I found the worst sensation was like a bubble. I remember clearly that feeing of wow is that it and then lifting my baby up! The water birth did not help my after birth pains but may have if I got back in later and it was warm. Try that or a warm bath. My kids loved the bath in the lounge, but as for being at the birth my second would have fussed over me and I worried that I would get flustered or short with him so as luck had it he was at school with the third and in bed listening with the fourth. My eldest did not want to know about it which really bothered me. my midwife told me in her experience (which is quite extensive) it is not uncommon for siblings to not want to be involved and even wanting the baby to be washed first. What I found was that when my third baby was born my daughter (the eldest) took a while before she would even look at him. After a while my mum slowly undressed the baby in front of her and without saying anything and she started looking then touching and by the evening wanted him in her bed. She still loves him to death and tends to favour him (he is nearly six she is 13). With our fourth the children were all in bed and heard his birth. They got up of their own accord when they heard their sister cry (and her mother father grandparents etc!!) and fell in love with her straight away. I guess families are all different go with what suits yours but dont stress if it isn't the reactions you visualise now. Enjoy, I'm jealous!!! Belinda - Original Message - From: Marty Tina To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in that situation(in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H.
[ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains/children at birth.
Thanks for this website address. I have worked in homebirth for 20yrs and have NEVER found a really satisfactory remedy/answer to afterbirth pains. Some multip women don't get them at all, others have horrendous ones whether physiological or medical 3rd stage. A remedy which works for one won't work for another.. CHILDREN are really wise little beings. The best advice.. after the preparation/support has been taken care of .. is to give themCOMPLETE freedom to be present or leave the room. Don't make them feel obligated to be present for the mother's sake and don't let anyone ridicule them if they choose to be absent. I have been present when children have slept right through the noises of birth and then woken when the baby was born and mother settled. they then wake up and come out to see the baby. Others have woken during a very quiet birthing and enter the room in time to see baby born.Very individual. cheers, MM- Original Message - I had a look at a couple of web sites, theres one called Pregnancy and Parenting Naturally which ahs some remedies for after birth pain http://members.aol.com/kristachan/afpain.htm
[ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains
Dear All, I am hoping you may be able to help. I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks need some advise. I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour. For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane am planning to birth in the water birth my placenta physiologically. I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains. The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? Also, my husband I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns is born. Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved? I want my children to find this experience as wonderful totally natural as I do. I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children. Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour /or birth? I know all children are individual (my three certainly are)... but would not like to limit them the way they would like to participate just because I have no idea about the normal reactions of children I have never met anybody who has had their other children present at their births I have never cared for any woman in that situation(in fact almost everyone I tell of our plans look at me as though I've stepped from another planet). Any suggestions welcome (I hope my questions make sense brains getting a bit foggy in the lead up to birth). Tina H.
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Dear Tina, I am unable to help you with your after pains situation, but I can certainly offer some advice regarding the siblings being present at the birth. I had my last baby (now 10 months) at the hospital, I was booked into the Moorabbin birth centre but after being in their care until 6 weeks prior to my due date they cancelled me as too high risk even though the reasons for the 'high risk' classification were all explained to them at the very first appointment at which stage they were prepared to have me. Anyway, my doctor and my birthplan provided to the hospital included having my children present. I am unaware of the ages of your other children, but mine were 12, 10 and 9 at the time of the birth. I also received funny looks from everyone I told that they would be present and even now when I tell people I still get that response. The midwifes at the hospital immediately assumed that it would be a problem. But I offered my children the option and let them decide, being very involved with pregnancy/birth my children all new what to expect and I made sure that they saw as many 'normal' births on video etc. although natural birth videos are hard to come by. All my children were excited to be part of the birthing process and could not wait for me to go into labour, they kept talking to 'the bump' as we called our baby, telling him/her to hurry up. My children were even fearful that if they were at their fathers (we share care week about) that I would not call them at their dad's especially if it was through the night. I assured them that it was extremely important for me that they be there if that was there wish. At the time, it as actually 2.15am when they were called, and yes they were at their father's (he was very understanding and supportive in my choice) so when they arrived at the hospital, they were raring to pitch in. One of them was on 'hot pack duty', this being the youngest, as I was hanging off a chair and she had to slide along the floor to enable her to place the hot pack on my back. The other was on the ice cold face washer duty and the third on misc. duties. When second stage approached, the eldest could not take his eyes of my birth area, the 10 year old was going back and forth looking, and looking away. The youngest was scared of my guteral screams and hid behind me until the birth. We have the most beautiful photo of all of us taken 10 mins after the birth, and the smiles on my eldest childrens faces are a sight to behold. All children at all stages were given the option to be there or not, to touch or not, etc. etc. With appropriate education and preparation (talking about what to expect, videos etc) there is no reason your children can not be involved unless it is of their own choice. I found it very important to let them decide, so that they did not feel any pressure to be there. All went well and I will never regret the choice that I made to involve them. Good luck with your upcoming addition and don't forget to let us know how it went. -- Yours in Childbirth and with the Love of Friendship Rita «¤¤ÐÈ£ÏVÊR¥·WÓMÄѤ¤» Mother of David 13, Haydie 11, Alysha 10 and Baby Tyler 8 months Registered Nurse, Student Midwife (currently in hiatus due to injury), Aspiring CBE and Doula - Original Message From: Marty Tina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Afterbirth pains Date: 23/02/03 16:27 Dear All, nbsp; I am hoping you may be able to help.nbsp; I am expecting my fourth baby in approx. 2 weeks amp; need some advise.nbsp; I usually experience killer afterbirth pains that often seem worse than the labour.nbsp; For this birth I am attending the Birth Centre here in Brisbane amp; am planning to birth in the water amp; birth my placenta physiologically.nbsp; I have not had a physiological third stage in the past (nor a water birth) amp; I was hoping that this will make a difference to the afterbirth pains.nbsp; The acupuncturist I have been visiting has also suggested Chinese herbs (usually used in labour) to assist with this pain also... have any of you used Chinese herbs for something like this amp; if so, are they safe for breastfeeding? nbsp; Also, my husband amp; I are planning on having our 3 other children at our birth amp; I was thinking that if all goes to plan that they may like to touch the baby as he/she crowns amp; is born.nbsp; Do any of you experienced with siblings being present find that siblings want to be this involved?nbsp; I want my children to find this experience as wonderful amp; totally natural as I do.nbsp; I cannot put into words the way I feel about birth (as a woman, mother amp; midwife)... but would somehow like to share these overwhelming feelings with my children.nbsp; Do many of the children want to get into the birth pool / tub during the labour amp;/or birth?nbsp; I know all children are individual (my three certainly
