Re: Winamp list subscription info

[Bruce Toews]

Try winamp4theblind-requ...@freelists.org with the word subscribe in the
subject line. The address you're using is the address for posting to the
list.

bruce


On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:05 -0800, "Donald L. Roberts"
 said:
> I have been striking out when attempting to subscribe to the 
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> 
> winamp4thebl...@freelists.org
> 
> Has the list moved?  Do I put the word subscribe in the 
> subject line?  I can't seem to find meaningful subscription 
> info via Google.
> 
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> 
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Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0firmwarenowavailable.

[Bruce Toews]

My understanding is that the Book Sense does not have things like
talking level meters and so on. The Plextalk Pocket does. In my view
this fact alone makes it a superior choice.

Bruce


On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:20:45 -0400, "kathy szinnyey"
 said:
> Just to add more to this mix, how is recording quality with the Booksense
> as compared to the Plextalk? Anyone 
> know?
> 
> Peace,
> Kathy
> 
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:26 -0500, Sunshine wrote:
> 
> 
> >well, compaired to the olympus recorders the stream is horid, in the 
> >recording aspect.
> >but the plextalk pocket far surpasses the recording of any one of the 
> >olympus recorders.
> >- Original Message - 
> >From: "Tim Grady" 
> >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:31 AM
> >Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 
> >3.0firmwarenowavailable.
> >
> >
> >Well, the Stream can't record wma files, so I have no idea what you
> >were comparing but is there a users list for the plextalk pocket?
> >On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Andran Deventer wrote:
> >
> >>The xtreme has been on the market much longer.
> >>
> >>And I heard some recordings made by the xtreme.  They're probably
> >>even worse
> >>than that of the olympus.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
> >>audio.org]
> >>On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> >>Sent: 08 October 2009 10:33 PM
> >>To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
> >>firmwarenowavailable.
> >>
> >>Why do you say that about unprotected wma support?  The Stream has
> >>had that
> >>for quite some time.
> >>On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Andran Deventer wrote:
> >>
> >>>I realise that some folks may think that some of are perhaps hyping
> >>>this device a bit too much, but  I must say I am impressed by the
> >>>frequency of update to the firmware of the pocket.  And I believe
> >>>these are really meaningful changes especially the WMA support.
> >>>Plextor definitely seems to have gotten it right on this one.
> >>>
> >>>Andre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
> >>>audio.org]
> >>>On Behalf Of G-Dog
> >>>Sent: 08 October 2009 01:14 PM
> >>>To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >>>Subject: Fw: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
> >>>firmwarenow available.
> >>>
> >>>FYIG-Dog!
> >>>plextalk pocket firmware.
> >>>Release note
> >>>7 October, 2009
> >>>PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 version 3 Released.
> >>>Read more texts and books with fast navigation.
> >>>PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Firmware Upgrade: Version 3 Shinano Kenshi Co.,
> >>>Ltd.
> >>>and Plextor are pleased to announce the release of PLEXTALK Pocket
> >>>PTP1 new
> >>>firmware, Version 3.
> >>>Version 3 has added more format support: Microsoft Word .doc and WMA
> >>>(Windows Media Audio)*.
> >>>* Pocket PTP1 supports only unprotected WMA at present.
> >>>The playable content/formats on PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Version 3 are:
> >>>Daisy 2.02, ANSI/NISO Z39.86/DAISY 3.0, NLS, Bookshare, RFB&D TXT,
> >>>HTML, DOC
> >>>MP3, WAV, AMR-MB+, DAISY ADPCM2, OGG, WMA unprotected Version 3 has
> >>>more
> >>>simplified operation and is more intuitive such as:
> >>>Faster key response,
> >>>Option to suppress a key sound after pressing, Announce file/folder
> >>>name as
> >>>audio track/album name Automatic bookmark numbering More features
> >>>have been
> >>>added on Version 3 for your easy navigation, recording sound quality
> >>>and
> >>>others.
> >>>7 languages are available currently with Version 3 and other language
> >>>versions will be released accordingly.
> >>>For more details, please see the release note.
> >>>[Pocket PTP1] Firmware Upgrade: Version 3.00 New Contents Support
> >>>Microsoft
> >>>Word .doc file support: To read a Microsoft Word .doc file on SD
> >>>card or USB
> >>>flash memory by the TTS engine. Pocket PTP1 categorizes MS Word .doc
> >>>in
> >>>'text'.
> >>>WMA (Window Media Audio) support: To play back unprotected WMA
> >>>format audio
> >>>files on SD card or USB flash memory.
> >>>Bookshare book playback improvement: To announce the title name of a
> >>>Bookshare book.
> >>>To navigate a Bookshare book by page properly.
> >>>More Simplified and Intuitive Operations All key responses have been
> >>>improved. A key confirmation sound or a voice prompt comes up more
> >>>quickly
> >>>after pressing a key (fast forward, rewind, level navigation, direct
> >>>title/content jump, menu selection, etc.).
> >>>New option to eliminate the sounds made after key press. On 'Select
> >>>the Key
> >>>Press Confirmation Sound' of 'System Settings' on the Menu, you can
> >>>choose
> >>>those sound 'On' or 'Off'
> >>>Announce an album/track name of audio content. On 'Reading audio
> >>>file name'
> >>>of 'Playback
> >>>Settings' of the Menu, you can choose the announcing options of
> >>>either 'Read
> >>>Album/Track Na

Re: Flac File Question

[Bruce Toews]

Winamp hs decoded FLAC natively for at least four or five years now.
Gold Wave handles them seamlessly, among other programs.

bruce
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:23:04 -0700, "Matthew Bullis"
 said:
> Hello, now I didn't know that Winamp now ships with a flac plug-in. I
> used 
> the flac plug-in for Winamp that I had to download. Everything dealing
> with 
> flac files, including how to decode them to .wav and how to encode .wav 
> files to flac is contained at
> http://flac.sourceforge.net
> Since I'm not sure of your experience with flac files, this will give you
> a 
> starting point. These are used in the trading of concert recordings, and
> now 
> a few artists are offering the flac downloads as an alternative to the
> mp3s.
> Thanks a lot.
> Matthew 
> 
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Re: Digital recorders again.

[Bruce Toews]

From everything I've been told, it's an outstanding recorder, and a modest 

to fair book player.

Bruce

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Bob Seed wrote:


Would like to see the specks on that unit before making a purchase. .
- Original Message - From: "Sunshine" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorders again.



I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent
 recording device on the market these days.

 - Original Message - From: "dean martineau" 
 To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
 Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.


 What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
 packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
 nice
 job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital recorder
 provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of course,
 it
 may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
 but
 there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
 the
 speaker when making a line-in recording.

 Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Digital recorders again.

 Hi all,

 Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
 discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality recordings
 from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.

 I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
 performance is of limited interest.

 Any views much appreciated.

 Cheers,

 Tim.
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Re: Digital recorders again.

[Bruce Toews]

That statement should probably be qualified: It may well be the most
excellent recording device in its class on the market, I couldn't say
but have no reason to believe otherwise, but there are better recording
devices on the market. Sweeping statements are dangerous.

Bruce


On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 12:56:11 -0500, "Sunshine" 
said:
> I totally agree with you Dean, the plextalk pocket is the most exclent 
> recording device on the market these days.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "dean martineau" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Digital recorders again.
> 
> 
> What I know is that the PlexTalk Pocket is totally accessible, nicely
> packaged, has both manual and automatic level control, and does a very
> nice
> job of recording from the line injack.  I doubt any other digital
> recorder
> provides as much feedback, as this one is made for the blind.  Of course,
> it
> may (or may not, I don't know) cost more than others of similar quality,
> but
> there's no guesswork involved.  It's nice to be able to monitor through
> the
> speaker when making a line-in recording.
> 
> Dean
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Tim Crawford
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:27 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Digital recorders again.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering, which one of the flash memory based recorders recently
> discussed here, would be most suitable for making high quality recordings
> from an external source via line-in?  e.g. a satellite receiver.
> 
> I don't intend recording via microphone, so that particular aspect of
> performance is of limited interest.
> 
> Any views much appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tim.
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Re: Goldwave and Vista

[Bruce Toews]

I use Gold Wave with Vista all the time, no problem.

bruce


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Re: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as Soundforge?

[Bruce Toews]

Well, the Gold Wave manual is extremely well-written and defines its
terms nicely. That could be a start for you.

Bruce


On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:23:00 -0400, "Kathy Szinnyey"
 said:
> Yes, well, I appreciate the correct terminology, and I knew that the
> example 
> I gave wasn't it.  Smile.  I really need to find a good glosary for all
> this 
> stuff.  Never seems to get explained anywhere, and the only way I know
> what 
> an effect does is to experiment with it.
> 
> Peace,
> Kathy
> 
> 
> "There is more to life than increasing it's speed." Mahatma Gandhi
> listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at
> http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as 
> Soundforge?
> 
> 
> | Part of the problem is that you will need to use correct terminology
> | when trying to research features. The example you gave won't be listed
> | under "making a microphone sound like a telephone", it will be listed
> as
> | a high-pass filter. I'm not saying this to be picky, but if you learn
> | the terminology for the effects you want, you're more likely to be able
> | to research which program will best provide you with that effect.
> |
> | Bruce
> |
> |
> | On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:12:28 -0400, "Kathy Szinnyey"
> |  said:
> | > Thanks for that, Allen.  I used to have Goldwave at one point,
> several
> | > years
> | > back, but I don't remember it having all kinds of things you could do
> to
> | > change the quality of sounds, e.g., making a microphone sound like a
> | > telephone, and that sort of thing.  Maybe I'm wrong, though, and
> should
> | > give
> | > it another try?
> | >
> | >
> | > "There is more to life than increasing it's speed." Mahatma Gandhi
> | > listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at
> | > http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
> | >
> | > - Original Message - 
> | > From: "Alan" 
> | > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> | > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:06 PM
> | > Subject: Re: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as
> | > Soundforge?
> | >
> | >
> | > | You might give goldwave a try if you haven't already. 
> www.goldwave.com
> | > is
> | > | their web site.
> | > |
> | > | - Original Message - 
> | > | From: "Kathy Szinnyey" 
> | > | To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> | > | Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:04 PM
> | > | Subject: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as
> | > Soundforge?
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | >HI, gang!  Subject line says it all.  I'm looking for
> something
> | > that
> | > | > will allow me to have lots of interesting effects as Soundforge. 
> I
> | > use
> | > | > Studio Recorder for a lot of things but want something that will 
> give
> | > me
> | > a
> | > | > bigger palate to play with sound.
> | > | >
> | > | > If Soundorge is still the best thing out there, where's the best
> | > place
> | > to
> | > | > download it from?
> | > | >
> | > | > Thanks lots!
> | > | >
> | > | > Kathy
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
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Re: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as Soundforge?

[Bruce Toews]

Part of the problem is that you will need to use correct terminology
when trying to research features. The example you gave won't be listed
under "making a microphone sound like a telephone", it will be listed as
a high-pass filter. I'm not saying this to be picky, but if you learn
the terminology for the effects you want, you're more likely to be able
to research which program will best provide you with that effect.

Bruce


On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:12:28 -0400, "Kathy Szinnyey"
 said:
> Thanks for that, Allen.  I used to have Goldwave at one point, several
> years 
> back, but I don't remember it having all kinds of things you could do to 
> change the quality of sounds, e.g., making a microphone sound like a 
> telephone, and that sort of thing.  Maybe I'm wrong, though, and should
> give 
> it another try?
> 
> 
> "There is more to life than increasing it's speed." Mahatma Gandhi
> listen to Fred and Kathy on the web at
> http://www.fredkate.libsyn.com
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as 
> Soundforge?
> 
> 
> | You might give goldwave a try if you haven't already.  www.goldwave.com
> is
> | their web site.
> |
> | - Original Message - 
> | From: "Kathy Szinnyey" 
> | To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> | Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:04 PM
> | Subject: Is there anything out there for blind folks as cool as 
> Soundforge?
> |
> |
> | >HI, gang!  Subject line says it all.  I'm looking for something
> that
> | > will allow me to have lots of interesting effects as Soundforge.  I
> use
> | > Studio Recorder for a lot of things but want something that will give
> me 
> a
> | > bigger palate to play with sound.
> | >
> | > If Soundorge is still the best thing out there, where's the best
> place 
> to
> | > download it from?
> | >
> | > Thanks lots!
> | >
> | > Kathy
> | >
> | >
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Re: Winamp Question

[Bruce Toews]

Sorry, instead of saying your sounds have been muted, I should say your 
Winamp volume has likely been turned down.


Bruce

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Bruce Toews wrote:

If Winamp is opening, it's clearly not a file associations issue, otherwise 
Winamp would not open. My guess is that your sound has been muted at some 
point. If you're using JAWS, try alt+control+slash to set your volume to 
100%. I'm not sure what the equivalent command is with other screen readers' 
scripts.


Bruce

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Matthew_2010 wrote:


 I installed this very same version of Winamp just a couple of weeks ago.
 Before going any further, did you follow the JFW installation instructions
 from within the jaws help files under the topic of Winamp? I'm thinking
 you did not associate any files to be played with Winamp. The important
 step is to use right arrow to expand the list of file extensions to be
 played by Winamp. Also try the obvious such as closing winamp then going
 to an MP3 file and pressing enter. Write back and we'll go from here.

 Matthew

 - Original Message - From: "Ketan Kothari" 
 To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:37 PM
 Subject: Winamp Question


>   Hi friends,
> 
>   I have installed winamp 5.56 and whenever I click on any file winamp 
>   opens
>   but it is quiet, that is, it does not play.  But when I press X I hear 
>   the

>   introductory winamp DJ Mike.  How do I play my files?  Help will be
>   appreciated.  Thank you.
>   Ketan Kothari
>   Phone: [r] 24223281,
>   Cell: 9987550614
>   MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
>   Skype ID: Ketan
> 
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Re: Winamp Question

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If Winamp is opening, it's clearly not a file associations issue, 
otherwise Winamp would not open. My guess is that your sound has been 
muted at some point. If you're using JAWS, try alt+control+slash to set 
your volume to 100%. I'm not sure what the equivalent command is with 
other screen readers' scripts.


Bruce

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Matthew_2010 wrote:

I installed this very same version of Winamp just a couple of weeks ago. 
Before going any further, did you follow the JFW installation instructions 
from within the jaws help files under the topic of Winamp? I'm thinking you 
did not associate any files to be played with Winamp. The important step is 
to use right arrow to expand the list of file extensions to be played by 
Winamp. Also try the obvious such as closing winamp then going to an MP3 file 
and pressing enter. Write back and we'll go from here.


Matthew

- Original Message - From: "Ketan Kothari" 
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:37 PM
Subject: Winamp Question



 Hi friends,

 I have installed winamp 5.56 and whenever I click on any file winamp opens
 but it is quiet, that is, it does not play.  But when I press X I hear the
 introductory winamp DJ Mike.  How do I play my files?  Help will be
 appreciated.  Thank you.
 Ketan Kothari
 Phone: [r] 24223281,
 Cell: 9987550614
 MSN ID: muktake...@hotmail.com
 Skype ID: Ketan

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Re: Solution for Major Winamp Error

[Bruce Toews]

Just so you know, you are not running the latest version of Winamp. The
latest version of Winamp is 5.56.

bruce


On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:40:52 -0700, "Matthew_2010"
 said:
> Hi John and list,
> 
> After becoming sick of this Winamp error problem I ran an in-depth Google 
> search and discovered many sighted and blind Winamp users were also
> having 
> this problem. It then dawned on me too that this problem didn't start 
> happening until after installing IE8. I then tried renaming winamp
> program 
> files as specified in various blogs and forums but no go. I then
> uninstalled 
> version 5.35 of Winamp and installed most current version and the Winamp 
> memory error has disappeared completely. So I'm suggesting installing
> winamp 
> 5.552 as I did and see if it works for you.
> http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Audio/winamp5552.exe
> I also noticed something a little strange. When downloading and scanning 
> this Winamp installation file for viruses, Nod32 gave me the following 
> error:
> NSIS - incorrect CRC checksum, the file may be damaged
> I was desperate to get my beloved winamp back and ran the installer
> anyways, 
> and as I hit enter on "install" I heard the culprit file marked as 
> uninstalled--this was the file I was  told to rename in the various
> winamp 
> forms I visited. thought I'd point out that jaws 9 seems to work pretty
> well 
> with this version of winamp in spite of warning. I've not tested out Jaws
> v 
> 10 because its still riddled with bugs and not what I normally care to
> use 
> so have had no need to mess with it. I'm not sure what will happen to the 
> libraries you've mentioned though I doubt winamp will stop using them
> since 
> this is a useful feature.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Matthew
> 
>  Original Message - 
> From: "J Gurd" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Major Winamp Error
> 
> 
> > It looks like it's a Winamp 5.35 issue. I just installed IE8 and I'm 
> > getting
> > the same error. I think I'll live with it though: an accessible library is
> > too important to me to give it up.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
> > Sent: 01 September 2009 12:27
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: Major Winamp Error
> >
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > I haven't had this problem but the first thing I'd try is upgrading to the
> > latest version of Winamp which at the moment is version 5.56.  That is of
> > course unless you have a strong reason to stay with version 5.35.
> > There's no guarantee this will fix the problem but I think it is certainly
> > worth trying.
> >
> > Regards Steve.
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:13:58 -0700
> > "Matthew_2010"  wrote:
> >> Ever since I installed Internet explorer 8.0 I seem to be having a
> >> problem where every time I close Winamp I get the following message:
> >>
> >> DDE Server Window: winamp.exe - Application Error The instruction at
> >> "0x3e824e70" referenced memory at "0xx21030022". The memory could not
> >> be "read".graphic 580  Click on OK to terminate the program OK
> >>
> >> And indeed I do have to escape or hit enter on ok to close this message.
> >> Have any of you had this problem? If so, how have you resolved this 
> >> issue?
> >
> >> I'm running Winamp 5.35 and JFW 9 (and 10 only if necessary).
> >
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Easy CD-DA Extractor 12.0.1

[Bruce Toews]

Easy CD-DA Extractor 12.0.1 is now out. I can't find a changelog or
history file on the Website, so I don't know what he's changed.
Certainly no mention is made about improved accessibility, and the last
time I taoked to the author about that he showed a distinct lack of
interest in making his interface fully accessible again. If anyone has a
list of changes, I'd love to read it.

Bruce

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Re: Some Questions About Ripping And Tagging Files

[Bruce Toews]

First of all, with respect, it's best to get the name of the program
right.  It's Easy CD-DA Extractor, from www.poikosoft.com.

As for a portable player that plays FLAC, the Victor Reader Stream will
do so. I'm sure there are others.

Bruce


On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:45:22 -0600, "Robert doc Wright"
 said:
> In an earlier post I mentioned Ez cd extractor. this program will allow
> you to rip to your hard drive and create cd's if you need to. you can rip
> to mp3 up to 320 bit it will also do flac Which I've heard a lot of
> people rave about but I don't use it because none of my portable players
> is compatible with it. If someone knows of a portable player that plays
> flac let me know.
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Pam Drake 
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:10 PM
> Subject: RE: Some Questions About Ripping And Tagging Files
> 
> 
> I definitely want a quality recording.  Is there a way to avoid having
> to burn a cd?  What integer numbers could they be asking for in both
> programs as I am attempting to number the tracks?  
> 
> The people who will be using these recordings want MP3 recordings.  If I
> burned with FLAC would that not be too large a recording for their
> purposes?  
> 
> Pam
> 
>   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Scholes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:34 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Some Questions About Ripping And Tagging Files
> 
> I don't rip a lot of CD's, but when I do, I use Exact Audio Copy, with
> the FLAC encoder, with tons of configuration changes, command line
> arguments, etc. My point here is that EAC is very advanced. It is used
> by both legal and non-legal music release groups to rip music, as its
> quality cannot be beaton. The focus is not, therefore, always on
> userbility, but on functionality. CDex is the oppositte. Its not very
> widely regarded as being very good at ripping, however this is slightly
> untrue. CDex is no way as good as EAC, but its acceptable. In short, if
> you are ripping a CD, and you know exactly what quality settings, what
> drive settings to use, and other such advanced settings, then go for
> EAC. Setup your compression, select all the tracks on the CD, then use
> the copy selected trakcs>compressed option. You can tag them later on. 
> If you aren't concerned with fantastic output, and getting the absolute
> most out of your rip, go with CDex. The upside to CDex is that you can
> pretty much put a CD in the drive, run it and rip.
> 
> On Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:44 AM, Pam Drake said:
> > Hello All!
> >
> > I am attempting to rip and tag files for air play on a couple of 
> > Internet radio stations.  I have permission from the producers of this
> > local , which will be marketed through ITunes and Amazon.com,
> and is
> > also available on a website with so-so accessibility to the cd store.
> >
> > I am running a Fujitsu C1410 laptop computer with Windows Service Pack
> 
> > Three.  I have tried both Exact Audio Copy and a beta of CDEx, and I 
> > have a few questions.  They have me stymied at the moment but I am 
> > sure with a little clarification I will be able to rip my first cd and
> 
> > send the files legally to the stations I have in mind.
> >
> > Now, my questions:
> > First, with regard to Exact Audio Copy:  is it necessary to copy and 
> > burn files to a cd?  I really would prefer to have them on my hard 
> > drive, as I already own a legal copy of the cd in question.
> >
> > Second, in both programs as I attempt to label the files with the 
> > correct audio tags I am asked to enter numbers or integers.  I am not 
> > sure what numbers or where.  I Do not have the ISRT numbers available 
> > to me, and as these files are going to be aired on not-for-profit 
> > streams where nothing is sold it is my understanding that this 
> > information isn't needed.  The producers are going to be selling this 
> > album on ITunes and Amazon so they have the correct information.  Do I
> 
> > need this?  What do they want, and how can I edit the title and track 
> > information such that it no longer reads only track number and file 
> > information?  I have all the titles, and this cd is not yet available 
> > in any of the databases, having been released less than three weeks
> ago, June 11th, to be exact.
> >
> >
> > I am also wondering whether I have the correct Beta version, CDEX 1.70
> 
> > Beta Two which has a release date of January 4, 2009.
> >
> > In the documentation for CDEX 1.70 Beta Two there is information 
> > regarding the possible need to install additional drivers.  Is it 
> > possible that I need to install these?
> >
> > Finally, I have Window-Eyes 7.0, JAWS 10.0, and System Access.  Is 
> > there any

Re: strange issue with SBLive sound card

[Bruce Toews]

It sounds like a problem with the connection to the sound card. Could you 
have a loose connection or a bad connector?


Bruce

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Joy Tilton wrote:

WE're having an issue with the SBLive, where when we record using either Gold 
wave or any other recorder, whatever is recorded ends up sounding like the 
bass is all gone, and it's got a weird expanded stereo effect as if the 
connection has a bad ground without the hum.  This only occurs when playing 
back a file just recently recorded.  we're using SBLive as the input and 
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Re: Latest GoldWave

[Bruce Toews]

Not as impressive as yours sounds. Just a core2 dual processor with 4 GB
of Ram.

Bruce


On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:03:56 -0600, "Keith Gillard" 
said:
> Hmmm.  That is very interesting.
> 
> What is your hardware config?
> 
> I would like to nail down my bottle neck.
> 
> KG
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Latest GoldWave
> 
> 
> I'm finding just the opposite to be the case, personally. I'm finding
> Gold Wave, including batch conversions, to be much faster now than it's
> ever been.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:27:12 -0600, "Keith Gillard" 
> said:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Is it me, or, is Goldwave becoming slower over time.
> >
> > I am doing some batch conversions on a PC with a quad core processor,
> > loads
> > of memory and a 0 hardware RAID Array and still, takes as long to
> > complete
> > the job as it once did on my vallient old P4 box.
> >
> > Is it GW or, is it the Lame encoder or what!
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > KG
> >
> >
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Re: High fidelty and turntables today

[Bruce Toews]

I will never forget, though, an article I read some time ago about a
study done in Britain. In it, they got together a bunch of die-hard
audiofiles. They used the highes-end equipment, they used the same
speakers and other equipment for all the tests, but they played music
from CD and from vinyl. The subjects did not know which was the CD,
which was the vinyl, or sometimes if the same medium were being played
twice. Sometimes they heard only vinyl or only CD, they just had no
idea, and they were asked to rate it. In many of the cases, subjects
were convinced that they were listening to a vinyl recording and that it
was vastly superior to the CD recording they'd heard, when in fact both
times they'd heard the same recording. Overall, the study concluded, the
preference was subjective and stemmed from existing biases. If a person
has decided that vinyl does and always will sound better, then that is
the case in their mind. Two sounds can be identical in every way, but
for some people, if they believe one of them is vinyl while the other is
not, they will vehemently insist that the vinyl one is superior, usually
employing the enigmatically ondescript term "warmer".

Bruce


On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:02:58 -0400, "Bob Seed" 
said:
> Most audio files that make a living listening to audio will swear that
> vinyl 
> is the best, as it has a warmth that can not be duplicated by listening
> to 
> CD's. The analogy that I once heard is like someone putting a q tip in
> your 
> ear and turning it around. Not quite sure what the person meant by saying 
> that other than this individual might have suffered from listening
> fatigue 
> by listening to a lot of CD's. Personally I prefer vinyl, but here again
> I 
> come from the old school of audio tape and vinyl records.
> In the haste to convert vinyl to CD's record companies didn't take the
> time 
> to remaster the first generation  of some of those old chestnuts that we 
> grew up with in the 60's and 70's, and simply massed produced them
> flooding 
> the marketplace with inferior quality product hoping that the gullibable 
> public wouldn't notice the difference, as they would be playing the 
> recording on home equipment that simply wouldn't measure up to
> professional 
> studio audio. Home audio has come a long way over the past ten years or
> so, 
> and is as good as some of the bottom line of professional broadcast 
> equipment. Most broadcasters use off the shelf CD players in their
> studios, 
> and if the CD player breaks down they simply throw it away and get a new 
> one. A professional broadcast CD player will cost in the range of 2 to 3 
> grand. If listening to a radio station I don't think that you will notice
> a 
> difference between an off the shelf home unit or a unit that is labelled
> as 
> being professional. The professional units tend to be built better and
> take 
> a licking and keep on ticking. When it comes to turntables broadcasters 
> prefer the professional line of Technique, as the professional line has a 
> variable pitch control.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:46 AM
> Subject: RE: High fidelty and turntables today
> 
> 
> > You are quite correct, of course. I wasn't clear enough in my message.
> > Thanks for adding this, I totally agree.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:15:48 +0100, "Walter Ramage"
> >  said:
> >> Hi Bruce.  I think what you say will only allow an individual to decide
> >> what
> >> he prefers.  There is no definitive answer as to what format is superior
> >> as
> >> it always depends on what sounds good to any individual's ears. As to the
> >> Technical debate, well one could argue over this until the cows come
> >> home.
> >> In the end it is all about the music and many years ago I discovered that
> >> I
> >> an my friends were listening to the equipment and not what was being
> >> played
> >> upon it and thus, we were never satisfied.  Now I listen to the music and
> >> try to get as much clarity as possible but if I enjoy what I hear, it
> >> doesn't matter what it is played on.  Walter.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> >> Sent: 08 June 2009 06:04
> >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> >> Subject: RE: High fidelty and turntables today
> >>
> >>
> >> The best way to do the vinyl versu

Re: Latest GoldWave

[Bruce Toews]

I'm finding just the opposite to be the case, personally. I'm finding
Gold Wave, including batch conversions, to be much faster now than it's
ever been.

Bruce


On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:27:12 -0600, "Keith Gillard" 
said:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Is it me, or, is Goldwave becoming slower over time.
> 
> I am doing some batch conversions on a PC with a quad core processor,
> loads 
> of memory and a 0 hardware RAID Array and still, takes as long to
> complete 
> the job as it once did on my vallient old P4 box.
> 
> Is it GW or, is it the Lame encoder or what!
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> KG
> 
> 
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RE: High fidelty and turntables today

[Bruce Toews]

You are quite correct, of course. I wasn't clear enough in my message.
Thanks for adding this, I totally agree.

Bruce


On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:15:48 +0100, "Walter Ramage"
 said:
> Hi Bruce.  I think what you say will only allow an individual to decide
> what
> he prefers.  There is no definitive answer as to what format is superior
> as
> it always depends on what sounds good to any individual's ears. As to the
> Technical debate, well one could argue over this until the cows come
> home.
> In the end it is all about the music and many years ago I discovered that
> I
> an my friends were listening to the equipment and not what was being
> played
> upon it and thus, we were never satisfied.  Now I listen to the music and
> try to get as much clarity as possible but if I enjoy what I hear, it
> doesn't matter what it is played on.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]on Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: 08 June 2009 06:04
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: High fidelty and turntables today
> 
> 
> The best way to do the vinyl versus CD test is blind, not knowing which
> you are hearing. If you do multiple, unpredictable trials of this manner,
> you will get a more unbiased opinion when you formulate one.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Walter Ramage wrote:
> 
> > Hi.  In short the answer is yes, you will always get superior quality
> > reproduction from dedicated Hi-Fi equipment.  There has been and still is
> a
> > raging debate between the exponents of Vinyl and CD.  For the most part
> this
> > debate is purely subjective since it really depends on your preferred
> > listening experience.  Some people like a very forward stereo image while
> > others prefer the sound stage to be more set back behind the speakers.  I
> > have a friend who prefers his sound to be more recessed as I think it
> gives
> > him a feeling of being in a concert hall, he is a great classical music
> fan
> > and attends lots of concerts.  Others enjoy a bright sound and yet others
> > like firm and prominent bass.  Promoters of the Vinyl will say that the
> > sound is much warmer while the supporters of CD will say that CD is much
> > more detailed all be it more clinical.  The only way to compare what one
> > prefers is to go to a specialist, and any good specialist will always
> > recommend you listen to the product before purchasing and often have
> > listening rooms in order to let you have a choice of different combination
> > of equipment.  In truth, you really do get what you pay for.  I remember
> > when I purchased a system some years ago; I was amazed just how by
> changing
> > one amplifier for another, changed the sound quality.  Even changing
> > something as basic as the interconnects made a huge difference.  Although
> > you can audition the equipment, it isn't the same as having it in your own
> > home and if you have a good relationship with any particular dealer they
> may
> > allow you to take the equipment home and listen to it in situ.  So vinyl
> > versus CD is something each person must decide for himself or herself but
> > bear in mind, Vinyl isn't as readily available as CD and it might take a
> bit
> > of work tracking down the stuff your son is interested in.  It is always
> > wise to purchase audio separates as these components are designed with
> their
> > purpose in mind where as combination systems always have some compromise
> > whether it be the tuner, the CD player or the amplifier or speakers.  As
> for
> > the comparison between Hi-Fi components and PC or portable audio devices,
> in
> > my opinion there is no competition.  Basically a PC is a storage system
> and
> > although it has the means of playing audio files, that isn't it's main
> > purpose.  You can get high quality sound cards but I fail to see how a?300
> > PC such as I am using now can compare with the ?1200 CD player on my Hi-Fi
> > system.  Another draw back is with file compression.  MP3 files are the
> > result of the original sound file being compressed to 10% of it's original
> > size and hence has quality loss.  These files are fine for their purpose
> but
> > for serious listening, they lack quality.  I listen to these files on my
> PC
> > fed through a mid range HI-Fi system but for really serious listening I
> take
> > the CD down to the big system and let it rip.  I think it really depends
> on
> > what your son wants to do and what he will be happy with a couple of years
> > down the road.  I think I w

RE: High fidelty and turntables today

[Bruce Toews]

The best way to do the vinyl versus CD test is blind, not knowing which 
you are hearing. If you do multiple, unpredictable trials of this manner, 
you will get a more unbiased opinion when you formulate one.


Bruce

On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Walter Ramage wrote:


Hi.  In short the answer is yes, you will always get superior quality
reproduction from dedicated Hi-Fi equipment.  There has been and still is a
raging debate between the exponents of Vinyl and CD.  For the most part this
debate is purely subjective since it really depends on your preferred
listening experience.  Some people like a very forward stereo image while
others prefer the sound stage to be more set back behind the speakers.  I
have a friend who prefers his sound to be more recessed as I think it gives
him a feeling of being in a concert hall, he is a great classical music fan
and attends lots of concerts.  Others enjoy a bright sound and yet others
like firm and prominent bass.  Promoters of the Vinyl will say that the
sound is much warmer while the supporters of CD will say that CD is much
more detailed all be it more clinical.  The only way to compare what one
prefers is to go to a specialist, and any good specialist will always
recommend you listen to the product before purchasing and often have
listening rooms in order to let you have a choice of different combination
of equipment.  In truth, you really do get what you pay for.  I remember
when I purchased a system some years ago; I was amazed just how by changing
one amplifier for another, changed the sound quality.  Even changing
something as basic as the interconnects made a huge difference.  Although
you can audition the equipment, it isn't the same as having it in your own
home and if you have a good relationship with any particular dealer they may
allow you to take the equipment home and listen to it in situ.  So vinyl
versus CD is something each person must decide for himself or herself but
bear in mind, Vinyl isn't as readily available as CD and it might take a bit
of work tracking down the stuff your son is interested in.  It is always
wise to purchase audio separates as these components are designed with their
purpose in mind where as combination systems always have some compromise
whether it be the tuner, the CD player or the amplifier or speakers.  As for
the comparison between Hi-Fi components and PC or portable audio devices, in
my opinion there is no competition.  Basically a PC is a storage system and
although it has the means of playing audio files, that isn't it's main
purpose.  You can get high quality sound cards but I fail to see how a?300
PC such as I am using now can compare with the ?1200 CD player on my Hi-Fi
system.  Another draw back is with file compression.  MP3 files are the
result of the original sound file being compressed to 10% of it's original
size and hence has quality loss.  These files are fine for their purpose but
for serious listening, they lack quality.  I listen to these files on my PC
fed through a mid range HI-Fi system but for really serious listening I take
the CD down to the big system and let it rip.  I think it really depends on
what your son wants to do and what he will be happy with a couple of years
down the road.  I think I will conclude with an illustration; Both a
comfortable family car and a dump truck will get you from New York to
California but I ask you, which would you prefer to travel in?  On the other
hand if you wanted to transport lots of garbage to the local dump, which
vehicle would you rather use?If you want high quality sound reproduction
then Hi-Fi separates is the route to take and the choice between CD and
vinyl is a matter of personal choice after comparing the options.  If you
want a mass storage system for your audio files with a reasonably enjoyable
listening experience then a good PC with a high quality sound card fed
through a reasonable stereo system will do and you could enhance the sound
quality by only listening to Wave files but that raises storage space
questions.  I'm sorry this has went on a bit but it isn't the sort of
subject that merits a glib response.  Walter.




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RE: Accessibility fixes coming in Skype Version 4.1

[Bruce Toews]

Gold simply means the final release version.

Bruce

On Wed, 27 May 2009, Paul Henrichsen wrote:


What is 4.1 gold? Does the gold mean you have to pay for that one?


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:41 AM
To: Access L; VIP L; PC Audio
Subject: Accessibility fixes coming in Skype Version 4.1

The public beta cycle for Skype version 4.1 has just started and the
following information is included in the known issues section regarding
accessibility in Skype:

"Accessibility / Keyboard navigation Voicemail and File transfer not
accessible.  None available at present - this will be fixed for 4.1 Gold".

The release notes for Skype version 4.1.0.130 Beta can be found at
https://developer.skype.com/WindowsSkype/ReleaseNotes

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Re: goldwave error

[Bruce Toews]

Yes. I was supposed to test them over the weekend, but there was a problem 
in the files sent me, so I won't be able to test until Tuesday.


Bruce

On Sun, 24 May 2009, Rick Harmon wrote:


Is there going to be a new version of the scripts anytime in the near
future?

Rick

- Original Message -
From: "Jitendra" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave error


Hi friend, I don't know about that, but it is not recommended to use
JAWS script version 1.57 with this update, because shortcuts which
activate menu items like change volume, max match and other keys
activate diferent item than they ment for.
Thank you.
Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I am using goldwave version 5.25 on my hp laptop.  When I try to
update to version 5.5 and above I get an access violation error.  I
had no trouble updating it on my desktop.  Has this happened to anyone
else?  If so, is there a fix for it?  Thanks,

Regards, Gary Metzler
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Re: Giveawayoftheday.com

[Bruce Toews]

To summarize what has been said so far: 1. This is not the same program 
that many of us use. 2. Someone tried it and found it to be quite 
inaccessible. 3. Gold Wave itself is a very inexpensive program and well 
worth the under $50 it costs for lifetime upgrades.


Bruce

On Sat, 23 May 2009, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:


Maybe this has been discussed, but has anybody noticed that on
www.giveaway.com   they are providing for just a
few more hours a free copy of Goldwave pro?  Some are saying that this is
not the actual Goldwave and since I've never had it I don't know.



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Re: Fw: Free audio program from Giveaway web site

[Bruce Toews]

No, it's a program from a totally different company that I've never heard 
of. I can't speak to whether or not it is accessible.


Bruce

On Sat, 23 May 2009, Dean Masters wrote:


Is this program the same goldwave that is accessible?

Dean

Subject: [Blindad] Free audio program from Giveaway web site


|
|
| I do not know if this program is related to the Goldwave many folks use,
| but it is free at the Giveawayof the day web site.  I thought some might
| be interested since for the next 16 hours you can obtain a free
| non-commercial copy.
|
| Will
| wilsm...@iglou.com
|  Giveaway of the Day - Gold Wave Editor Pro
|
|Gold Wave Editor Pro is an ideal solution for audio editing and
|mastering. The program contains everything you need to create great
|sounding recordings and audio CDs, including professional tools for
|recording, analysis and editing. The Gold Wave Editor Pro user
|interface was designed with speed, accuracy and ease of use in mind.
|
|[21][awc3.jpg]
|
|Giveaway of the day is adware/spyware-free. If you want to check that
|
| References
|
|Visible links
|1. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/feed/
|2. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/feed/rss/
|3. http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/feed/atom/
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RE: multi-tracking software.

[Bruce Toews]

They do, but it's not accessible, as far as I know.

Bruce

On Wed, 13 May 2009, John covici wrote:


I thought goldwave made a true multi-tracking software as well as
goldwave.

on Wednesday 05/13/2009 Jed Barton(j...@jedbarton.com) wrote
> Hey there, any idea of where to get this program?
> Does it work better with windoweyes or jaws?
>
> Thanks,
> Jed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:45 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: multi-tracking software.
>
> That's the short answer. The somewhat longer answer is in a way. You can mix
> tracks together, do voiceovers, and so on. I mix my radio shows together
> (samples at www.totw.net) entirely using Gold Wave. I have mixed vocals
> together on karaoke tracks. It's not as intuitive as a true multitrack
> program, which is why the short answer is the correct short answer, but can
> be done to a limited degree.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:08 -0400, "Christopher Wright"
>  said:
> > The short answer to your question is no. Sonar is the way to go for
> > multitracking.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Dalton" 
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:28 PM
> > Subject: multi-tracking software.
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > will gold wave allow multi-tracking?
> > >
> > > Brian.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bruce Toews" 
> > > To: ; 
> > > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:43 PM
> > > Subject: Gold Wave version 5.5 Now Released
> > >
> > >
> > > > Gold Wave version 5.5 has now been released. It can be obtained
> > > > from www.goldwave.com. Here is the short list of changes:
> > > >
> > > > Unicode interface
> > > > Integrated GWVoice effects
> > > > Faster processing for some effects using SSE and multiple
> > > > processors Cleaner polyphase resampling Higher resolution
> > > > frequency visuals Updated FLAC and Vorbis codecs Many fixes and
> > > > improvements
> > > > --
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> > > >
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RE: multi-tracking software.

[Bruce Toews]

Absolutely, it's a great program if one has the money for it.

Bruce

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jonathan Mosen wrote:


Yes that one's called Multiquence. I don't know how accessible it is, Sonar
seems to be the gold standard for multitrack and accessibility although
Audacity is one to watch.

For a really good implementation of sound on sound, which is what Sound
Forge, Goldwave etc do, Studio Recorder is amazing since you can actually
hear what you're recording over.

Jonathan

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Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:12 a.m.
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Subject: RE: multi-tracking software.

I thought goldwave made a true multi-tracking software as well as goldwave.
on Wednesday 05/13/2009 Jed Barton(j...@jedbarton.com) wrote  > Hey there,
any idea of where to get this program?
> Does it work better with windoweyes or jaws?
>
> Thanks,
> Jed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:45 PM  > To: PC Audio Discussion List  >
Subject: Re: multi-tracking software.
>
> That's the short answer. The somewhat longer answer is in a way. You can
mix  > tracks together, do voiceovers, and so on. I mix my radio shows
together  > (samples at www.totw.net) entirely using Gold Wave. I have mixed
vocals  > together on karaoke tracks. It's not as intuitive as a true
multitrack  > program, which is why the short answer is the correct short
answer, but can  > be done to a limited degree.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:08 -0400, "Christopher Wright"
>  said:
> > The short answer to your question is no. Sonar is the way to go for  >

multitracking.

> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Dalton"   > > To: "PC Audio
Discussion List"   > > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009
3:28 PM  > > Subject: multi-tracking software.
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > will gold wave allow multi-tracking?
> > >
> > > Brian.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bruce Toews"   > > > To:
; 
> > > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:43 PM  > > > Subject: Gold Wave version
5.5 Now Released  > > >  > > >  > > > > Gold Wave version 5.5 has now been
released. It can be obtained  > > > > from www.goldwave.com. Here is the
short list of changes:
> > > >
> > > > Unicode interface
> > > > Integrated GWVoice effects
> > > > Faster processing for some effects using SSE and multiple  > > > >
processors Cleaner polyphase resampling Higher resolution  > > > > frequency
visuals Updated FLAC and Vorbis codecs Many fixes and  > > > > improvements

--  > > > >  Bruce Toews  > > > >  dogri...@ogts.net  > > > >  > > >

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Re: multi-tracking software.

[Bruce Toews]

You've misinterpreted me, but I'm not interested in an argument. I was
agreeing with you in the first place and we can leave it at that.


Bruce


On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:54:46 -0400, "Christopher Wright"
 said:
> Not true, Bruce. Programs such as Sonar allow you to, for example, record
> a
> piano track today, a flute track tomorrow, etc. After all tracks are
> recorded, you can make changes to each track as you see fit. From there,
> you
> can mix it all down to a wav file, MP3 file or some other format. Now,
> let's
> say that you play the audio file and say to yourself, "Oops, that vocal
> track is too loud." With Sonar, you can reload the project, lower the
> volume
> on that vocal track and save a new audio version of the project.
> 
> With Goldwave, multitracking requires the use of several sound windows.
> 
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Re: multi-tracking software.

[Bruce Toews]

The same can be said about the final product of any project.

Bruce


On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:29:42 -0400, "Christopher Wright"
 said:
> Once you mix your project in Goldwave, save it as a file and close
> Goldwave,
> you won't be able to make changes to it.
> 
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Re: multi-tracking software.

[Bruce Toews]

That's the short answer. The somewhat longer answer is in a way. You can
mix tracks together, do voiceovers, and so on. I mix my radio shows
together (samples at www.totw.net) entirely using Gold Wave. I have
mixed vocals together on karaoke tracks. It's not as intuitive as a true
multitrack program, which is why the short answer is the correct short
answer, but can be done to a limited degree.

Bruce


On Wed, 13 May 2009 16:07:08 -0400, "Christopher Wright"
 said:
> The short answer to your question is no. Sonar is the way to go for
> multitracking.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Dalton" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:28 PM
> Subject: multi-tracking software.
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > will gold wave allow multi-tracking?
> >
> > Brian.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Bruce Toews" 
> > To: ; 
> > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 3:43 PM
> > Subject: Gold Wave version 5.5 Now Released
> >
> >
> > > Gold Wave version 5.5 has now been released. It can be obtained from
> > > www.goldwave.com. Here is the short list of changes:
> > >
> > > Unicode interface
> > > Integrated GWVoice effects
> > > Faster processing for some effects using SSE and multiple processors
> > > Cleaner polyphase resampling
> > > Higher resolution frequency visuals
> > > Updated FLAC and Vorbis codecs
> > > Many fixes and improvements
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Re: PROBLEMS WITH THE NEWEST GOLDWAVE 5.5

[Bruce Toews]

Well, effect processing is much faster in 5.51. You may find the speed 
tradeoff worth your while.


Bruce

On Sun, 10 May 2009, Robert doc Wright wrote:


yes I am. with the old version I'm currently using whatever I place in the 
track name field stays the same until I change it. When I moved up to v5.12 it 
kept returning to the default which slowed me down because what I had typed 
before was no longer there, thus, I had to retype it.

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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: PROBLEMS WITH THE NEWEST GOLDWAVE 5.5


Hi Doc. If I unddrstand you correctly your problem happens when you are
deciding how to save the split files. You have the choice of cue neame,
track name, or a combination of the 2. Is that the problem that you are
encountering?

If it is, then GoldWave's default is still to choose the cue name. If you
want to save by track name, you need to arrow down one and continue to tab
through the remaining options to the ok button. If I'm misunderstanding,
please feel free to clarify and I can probably help you. I think you and I
are in the same business. you're transfering vinyl and tape to Cd, right?

Larry


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Gold Wave version 5.5 Now Released

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Gold Wave version 5.5 has now been released. It can be obtained from
www.goldwave.com. Here is the short list of changes:

Unicode interface 
Integrated GWVoice effects 
Faster processing for some effects using SSE and multiple processors 
Cleaner polyphase resampling 
Higher resolution frequency visuals 
Updated FLAC and Vorbis codecs 
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Re: guess what folks! wow! today, I found out that Ronald Glaser's bottox fell under the mailbox!

[Bruce Toews]

A small tip, Maheen, if you want to pretend to be Chris, you should change 
the e-mail address as well as the name field in your message. I hope, 
Maheen, that you get banned from this list too.


Bruce

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Chris Gilland wrote:


Well! ain't that a strange? Ronald Glaser who's a cowboy, who rides on the 
range each and everyday of the week, booped his buttox and fell under the mail 
box! now ain't that, drange? Ronald Glaser sure knows how to raade and a raade 
and a raade on the range and to take showers while sittin' on his bottox eating 
pancakes and choop de de choop de de choopin on his bubble gum
! now ain't that just, great? Ronald Glaser sure is a? bubbaquabba! he coughs 
in his sleep each night, and even wakes up coughing while eating jam 
sandwiches! isn't that just a wonderful way to spend, an evening? Frank 
Sinatra!!! Ronald Glaser even has Frank Sinatra singin' a little bitta country! 
oh, and did I mention Ronald Glaser has cramberry juice in his kitch de de 
kitch de de kitchen while smoking weed? Wow!!! And I have one more thing to say 
folks, Ronald Glaser, is, my best! friend.
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Re: aw Wanda, I love you baby, we're gonna get married, on a Saturday night!

[Bruce Toews]

Maheen, will you stop it already? You're fooling no one.

Bruce

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, ronald Glaser wrote:


chris a Gilland said the following to you!
a wacka wacka wow wow wacka wacka wow wow wacka wacka wo wo wacka wacka wow 
wow!!!
my son Ron, is my housewife!
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Re: Converting from mono to stereo?

[Bruce Toews]

That's the sort of conversion that would take place regardless whether you 
do it manually or whether you let the program do it for you.


Bruce

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Larry wrote:

Yes, that certainly is true, Bruce. Unfortunately, in this instance, I don't 
see any way around it. I wonder though... would there be less quality lost if 
i first convert the file to wav, save it as stereo and then convert it back 
to MP3 which is the format I need it to be in when uploading? Or would that 
just be spinning my wheels for no good purpose?


Larry


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- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Converting from mono to stereo?


If the file is already lossy, there will be no way to do this without some
quality degradation: lossy-to-lossy conversion demands it.

Bruce

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Robert doc Wright wrote:


 The simplest way is to resave as a stereo file.

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 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:35 AM
 Subject: Converting from mono to stereo?


 Hi. I need to upload files to a service that will accept only stereo
 files.
 The problem? Some of the files that I need to upload are mono. Is there a
 way to convert them so that they appear as stereo? I don't need to improve
 sound quality, though it would be preferable it the process did not
 degrade
 quality.

 I have Goldwave, Sound Forge 8.0 Dc7 and Wave Pad on board.

 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 Larry


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Re: Converting from mono to stereo?

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If the file is already lossy, there will be no way to do this without some 
quality degradation: lossy-to-lossy conversion demands it.


Bruce

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Robert doc Wright wrote:


The simplest way is to resave as a stereo file.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:35 AM
Subject: Converting from mono to stereo?


Hi. I need to upload files to a service that will accept only stereo files.
The problem? Some of the files that I need to upload are mono. Is there a
way to convert them so that they appear as stereo? I don't need to improve
sound quality, though it would be preferable it the process did not degrade
quality.

I have Goldwave, Sound Forge 8.0 Dc7 and Wave Pad on board.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Larry


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Re: Bookmarks in Winamp

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You're using Window-Eyes, so to do this you'll need Jeff Bishop's 
excellent Winamp scripts. I am not, nor will I ever be, a Window-Eyes 
user, so I am unable to help you further.


Bruce

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Roger Stewart wrote:

Just heard someone ask about bookmarks in Winamp.  Does anyone know if they 
exist and how do you create them and access them? 
Need keyboard commands of course!


Thanks!

B B!

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Re: Updating the VictorStream.

[Bruce Toews]

Just be sure to unzip it onto your card. As the information that you 
should read first states, you do not need to place the file on a new card. 
As that same information also states, one of the features of the 3.0 
update is that the file will automatically get deleted for you once you've 
updated and powered the unit back on.


Bruce

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Debbie Bugella wrote:


Hi:

I have a really stupid question! I no that I must copy the update file onto the 
SD card and put it in and let the stream do its thing, but do I need to put the 
update file on a new card when I switch SD cards? Can I delete the update file 
off the card after the update installs? Because I know with the NLS 
authorization, that needs to be put on each card, right? Thanks, Deb.
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Re: ripping and burning dvd's

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Before determining exactly what you'll need, a few questions need to be
answered.

1. Is this a commercial DVD or a homegrown DVD?

2. If it's homegrown, is it a single-layer or dual-layer disk?

3. If it's dual-layer, are you wanting to copy onto a single-layer disk
or onto another dual-layer disk?

Bruce


On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:44:44 -0700, "Scott Blanks"
 said:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I am, for the first time, dipping my toe into the murky waters of copying
> a 
> dvd. I would basically like to take a dvd disc, back it up onto my
> computer, 
> and then copy that info onto another dvd disc. So basically I want to
> copy 
> disc to disc.
> 
> I have read conflicting information on how to accomplish this. Some say
> to 
> use dvd shrink, others recommend dvd decrypter, but I haven't been able
> to 
> successfully complete the process . I've used decrypter to get files onto
> my 
> computer, but couldn't proceed further.
> 
> My specs: windows xp, JAWS 9, and Roxeo is also on the system, if that 
> detail is important.
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott 
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RE: plugins for gold wave

[Bruce Toews]

Everything I know about 5.5 is found in the news section of 
www.goldwave.com. The second or third item down is a partial list of new 
features and enhancements. He isn't giving a release date.


Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, dean martineau wrote:


I'm curious what else you know about 5.5.  What features will be added, when
will it appear, what will be the cost to upgrade, and where are you finding
the information.

Dean




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Subject: Re: plugins for gold wave

They wouldn't. What I'm saying is that, for someone who hasn't already
purchased Gold Wave and wishes to, they should do so now because the cost
will go up for version 5.5. However, the GWVoice plugin will be integrated
into Gold Wave.

Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Sunshine wrote:


why would a person have to pay for the upgrade if they already have a life
time licenses?
- Original Message -
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: plugins for gold wave


Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself
the increase in price that will come with version 5.5.

Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote:


Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves.

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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: plugins for gold wave


Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in
goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any
suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or
presets?
thanks for your help
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Re: plugins for gold wave

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They wouldn't. What I'm saying is that, for someone who hasn't already 
purchased Gold Wave and wishes to, they should do so now because the cost 
will go up for version 5.5. However, the GWVoice plugin will be integrated 
into Gold Wave.


Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Sunshine wrote:


why would a person have to pay for the upgrade if they already have a life
time licenses?
- Original Message -----
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: plugins for gold wave


Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself
the increase in price that will come with version 5.5.

Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote:


Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: plugins for gold wave


Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in
goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any
suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or
presets?
thanks for your help
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Re: plugins for gold wave

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Which will be integrated into the next version. Buy now and save yourself 
the increase in price that will come with version 5.5.


Bruce

On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Chris Hallsworth wrote:


Try GWVoice from GoldWave themselves.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: plugins for gold wave


Hey listers! Just wondering what some of you are using for effects in
goldwave. I'm looking for more dx plugins to play with audio. Any
suggestions of free or low cost plugins that have lots of effects or
presets?
thanks for your help
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Re: converting Audible files to other formats

[Bruce Toews]

It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content.

Bruce

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the legal 
jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair use" in the US 
would allow you to convert Audible books into another format for your own 
personal use.


Audible's terms and conditions at 
http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the 
following:


6. Grants of Licenses

a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise "purchase" 
(referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible Content from the 
Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, revocable, non-exclusive, 
non-transferable license to download or stream such Audible Content to your 
computer and/or
your Device(s) solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not 
copy, reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. 
You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly perform 
the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit it commercially. 
Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content or 
attempt to do so; or (B) modify the Audible Content or create any derivative
works therefrom. This license to the Audible Content you Purchase will 
continue for as long as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and 
in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement.


In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that say 
converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under "fair use" while 
others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude doing this. I'm not 
sure that I've seen anything definitive on either side though. A lot of 
people say it's illegal without quoting any laws or T&C's, while others say 
it can't be illegal due to "fair use", but I'm not sure they understand "fair 
use" or not. For my part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible 
file to MP3, but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it 
anywhere where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law 
enforcement agency here in the US would go after you.


Bruce Toews wrote:

 It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed
 prohibit it.

 Bruce

 On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote:

>  Hi list,
>  I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any
>  programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format.
>  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>  Sylvia.
> 
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Re: converting Audible files to other formats

[Bruce Toews]

It can't be legally done. The terms of service to which you agreed 
prohibit it.


Bruce

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote:


Hi list,
I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there are any
programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the mp3 format.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Re: Skype query

[Bruce Toews]

The most accessible version is 3.8, the scripts, as always, are at 
www.dlee.org/skype


Bruce

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Peter Scanlon wrote:


Appology for not changing the subject line in previous email.

What is the best most accessible version of Skype with Jaws and where are
the most up to date scripts.

Is there a list of Short Cut keystrokes for Skype?


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Polyphase Resampling Effect

[Bruce Toews]

I was looking at www.goldwave.com. They say that one of the things in
the works for the next version is a high-quality polyphase resampling
effect. What exactly is polyphase resampling?

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Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

[Bruce Toews]

DVD Audio Extractor can extract the described video track of, for example, 
the Corner Gas videos, into various formats that will play in mdeia 
players - Wave, MP3, OGG Vorbis, etc., and it also has a preview feature 
which essentially lets you play the tracks without extracting. Corner Gas 
is the only commercial TV series I know of that has described video on the 
standard buy-them-in-the-stores DVD's. There might well be others, but 
these are the only ones I know of.


Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, KANE BROLIN wrote:


Gee, I didn't think I would create such a partisan firestorm by throwing out
the descriptive video questions.  But it is a fascinating discussion
that has taken turns I did not expect.  I am an NFB member, but do not look
at issues with a viewpoint that's as partisan as the Boomer Generation
Federationists.

I don't spend a lot of time with video content at this point in my life, but
have run into descriptive video in the past and simply presumed it would
have become more prevalent in the last 5-10 years.  It seems that the trend
toward video description actually has reversed itself, at least in the
United States.

So Bruce, are you suggesting that if one finds a DVD series like your
Canadian sitcom that's commercially available, use DVD Audio Extractor as a
means of listening to the whole content of the DVD?  Or does this program
simply convert the DVD into a format that some other player such as Windows
Media Player or Winamp can process?

Regards,

-Kane
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Toews" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads



If you like good humor, try the Canadian TV show Corner Gas. Seasons 2
through the present all have described video on the commercial DVD's.

Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:


Oh really?  What planet do you live on?  

NFB and their ilk kind of did it to us when they got the feds to say

that it

was no longer a requirement.  So now if you really want descriptive
programming you have to find it outside of our shores.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:42 PM
To: j...@freelists.org
Cc: Blind iPod Mailing List; pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

Hi, folks.

I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.

I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
where action was described in the first place, should have that same
DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
wondering about the following:

1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
this feature before I buy?

2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.

3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?

Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
others I may encounter.

Kind regards,

-Kane

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Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

[Bruce Toews]

Is all this pardisanship not just a whole lot off-topic for this list? And 
no, I'm not a member of the NFB, nor am I even American.


Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Gary Metzler wrote:


I liken the NFB to the Borg on Star Trek.  Its just one collective mind.
- Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads



 Funny, a NFB member told me different.

 Rick

 - Original Message - From: "David R. Stayer"
 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


 Shalom.  I do not want to argue with you , but NFB did not do anything to
 destroy the availability of DVDS in the United ?States.
 - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" 
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:56 PM
 Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


>  No, I was referring to his sarcasm about what planet Cane was on; 
>  totally

>  unnecessary!
>  - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" 
>  

>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:48 PM
>  Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> 
> 
>  Mac,
> 
>  If you are referring to the NFB statement he's correct.  The NFB did

>  everything within their ability to destroy DVS in the united states and
>  succeeded in their task almost completely..
> 
>  Rick
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" 

>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:26 PM
>  Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> 
> 
>  Cane,
> 
>  I think your point is well taken, while Dave's is just a bit of

>  unnecessary
>  sarcasm!
> 
>  Mac Norins

>  - Original Message - From: "Kane Brolin" 
>  To: 
>  Cc: "Blind iPod Mailing List" ;
>  
>  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:41 PM
>  Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> 
> 
>  Hi, folks.
> 
>  I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.

>  But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
>  some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
>  writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
>  iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
>  hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.
> 
>  I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD

>  come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
>  presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
>  too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
>  where action was described in the first place, should have that same
>  DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
>  wondering about the following:
> 
>  1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the

>  download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
>  source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
>  this feature before I buy?
> 
>  2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is

>  there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
>  menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
>  descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
>  Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.
> 
>  3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of

>  stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
>  of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
>  of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
>  versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
>  wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
>  same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
>  bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?
> 
>  Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for

>  others I may encounter.
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  -Kane
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RE: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

[Bruce Toews]

If you like good humor, try the Canadian TV show Corner Gas. Seasons 2 
through the present all have described video on the commercial DVD's.


Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:


Oh really?  What planet do you live on?  

NFB and their ilk kind of did it to us when they got the feds to say that it
was no longer a requirement.  So now if you really want descriptive
programming you have to find it outside of our shores.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:42 PM
To: j...@freelists.org
Cc: Blind iPod Mailing List; pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

Hi, folks.

I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.

I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
where action was described in the first place, should have that same
DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
wondering about the following:

1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
this feature before I buy?

2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.

3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?

Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
others I may encounter.

Kind regards,

-Kane

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Re: needing to create tracks without audible breaks

[Bruce Toews]

It all has to do with the size of data blocks written to CD. It has to
be a multiple of a certain number of samples, I don't know what the
exact numbers are. It's a mathematical-precision thing, not something
that one can work out by ear.

Bruce


On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:02:51 - (UTC), "Ray"
 said:
> Interesting point Bruce, re. fine tuning of markers for popless track
> transitions.  Maybe you could elaborate, off list possibly?
> 
> I do move choose the point with some care, and it helps if the markers
> are
> at points of silence or very low volume when not too much is happening.
> 
> Ray.
> 
> Bruce Toews wrote:
> One thing to remember is that, in order to prevent a little audible pop
> on
> the CD, the wave file has to be split very precisely. Gold Wave has an
> option that moves the markers that you set to the precise location to
> prevent these little pops.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ray wrote:
> 
> > Hi, first the .wav file has to be broken up into segmants to represent the
> > final track positions.  In Sound Forge this is done by using markers then
> > converting those to regions.  Finally the Extract regions dilogue is used
> > to
> > extract and save the marked regions to separate files at a location you
> > choose.
> >
> > These files can then be imported into something like XPburn, Nero, or
> > NCH's
> > cd burner program.  In thes programs there is a burn at once setting which
> > writes the files gaplessly to the Cd.  (In Nero at last you have to reduce
> > all track time gaps to zero, (except for the first track) which is done in
> > the tracks properties in the track list you are compiling.  (Much simpler
> > with XPcdburn program and NCH's offering.)
> >
> > Fear this explanation might pose as many quesitons as it attempts to
> > answer,
> > but others might walk you through it.
> >
> > Ray.
> >
> >
> > stever2525 wrote:
> > I have a recording as a .wav file on my hard drive and need to mark track
> > numbers at specific points to burn to CD. I want the CD to play
> > seamlessly,
> > as if it were 1 track, like a live concert CD.
> > What software can accomplish this?
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
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Re: needing to create tracks without audible breaks

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One thing to remember is that, in order to prevent a little audible pop on 
the CD, the wave file has to be split very precisely. Gold Wave has an 
option that moves the markers that you set to the precise location to 
prevent these little pops.


Bruce

On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Ray wrote:


Hi, first the .wav file has to be broken up into segmants to represent the
final track positions.  In Sound Forge this is done by using markers then
converting those to regions.  Finally the Extract regions dilogue is used to
extract and save the marked regions to separate files at a location you
choose.

These files can then be imported into something like XPburn, Nero, or NCH's
cd burner program.  In thes programs there is a burn at once setting which
writes the files gaplessly to the Cd.  (In Nero at last you have to reduce
all track time gaps to zero, (except for the first track) which is done in
the tracks properties in the track list you are compiling.  (Much simpler
with XPcdburn program and NCH's offering.)

Fear this explanation might pose as many quesitons as it attempts to answer,
but others might walk you through it.

Ray.


stever2525 wrote:
I have a recording as a .wav file on my hard drive and need to mark track
numbers at specific points to burn to CD. I want the CD to play seamlessly,
as if it were 1 track, like a live concert CD.
What software can accomplish this?
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Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people

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Just know that this is a rumor, nothing more, nothing less. HW have 
officially said they'd like to have the capability, and that if it did 
there would likely be a small price, but they have said no more than that, 
except to say that it presents many challenges.


bruce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Keith Gillard wrote:


Kathy,
Your thinking is correct.

I have heard a rumor that the next firmware release for the Vic Stream will
support protected WMA files however, this may come with a small fee for the
upgrade.

hth...KG
- Original Message -
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people


Hi, all!  Do the Victor Stream and the PlexTalk play digital rights
manangement (DRM) protected files?  I was thinking they didn't.   Can you
play books from NetLibrary or Overdrive on those two players?
Peace,
Kathy


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- Original Message -
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people


|i would also like to take notice that the plex talk pocket is far above
what
| the stream can do in quality and portablity since the victor reader stream
| is bigger then the plex talk pocket the pocket will fit in your pocket it
| right now does not play ogg files but it can play mp3s, wav files, txt
files
| html files and has the most clear sounding microphone i have heard in a
| small accessible device the mic is even better then the streamsmicrophone
| you can also record much more with the pocket like tapes, audio, and radio
| since it has a built in externalmic/line in jack.
| the price is 360 dollars and  one place to get it is
| IRTI
| and they are very helpful in the questions i have asked their answers are
| totally thoural and this device will surpass the stream cause of what it
can
| do.
|
| - Original Message -
| From: "Don Ball" 
| To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
| Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:04 PM
| Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people
|
|
| > The victor reader stream is the most accessible player and I am not
being
| > smart. If you just want to play music one file after
| >  another any cheap mp3 player will do. but for total access to what you
| > are playing the stream is the player of choice. I even excuse the $300
| > price tag. for the access you get that is a bargain.- Original
| > Message -
| >  From: Lauren
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| >  Subject: mp3 players best for totally blind people
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| >
| >  Hi,
| >
| >  Can you please suggest a MP3 player or Ipod that is best for a totally
| > blind person to operate? Thanks.
| >
| >  Sincerely,
| >
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Re: voice recorders that append

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But if you're just looking for a voice recorder, the Plextalk or the 
Stream might be overkill, depending on the needs.


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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Sunshine wrote:


the plextalk pocket can do this nicely
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 Does anyone know of a small voice recorder that has folders capability and
 also has the ability to append to a voice recording?

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Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people

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I would suggest that the best comparison to make is that the Plextalk is
a very good recorder that has some playback functionality, and the
Stream is a very good player that has some recording functionality. As
has been said elsewhere. they are both very good for what they have been
designed to do. The size difference is minute. The battery life of the
Stream is considerably longer than that of the Plextalk, so if it is
playback capability you are after, seriously consider the Stream, which
plays MP3. OGG Vorbis, Windows Media, braille, TXT, HTML, rich text,
FLAC, and more in terms of file format. If it is primarily recording you
are interested in, then I would say the Plextalk is your best bet, with
its stereo recording capability and line-in jack, etc. Both devices have
their place, and it is irresponsible to say (and I think I'm decoding
the spelling correctly) that one is just a way better player in every
respect, because that is simply not true.

Bruce


On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:32:05 -0600, "Sunshine" 
said:
> i would also like to take notice that the plex talk pocket is far above
> what 
> the stream can do in quality and portablity since the victor reader
> stream 
> is bigger then the plex talk pocket the pocket will fit in your pocket it 
> right now does not play ogg files but it can play mp3s, wav files, txt
> files 
> html files and has the most clear sounding microphone i have heard in a 
> small accessible device the mic is even better then the streamsmicrophone 
> you can also record much more with the pocket like tapes, audio, and
> radio 
> since it has a built in externalmic/line in jack.
> the price is 360 dollars and  one place to get it is
> IRTI
> and they are very helpful in the questions i have asked their answers are 
> totally thoural and this device will surpass the stream cause of what it
> can 
> do.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don Ball" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: mp3 players best for totally blind people
> 
> 
> > The victor reader stream is the most accessible player and I am not being 
> > smart. If you just want to play music one file after
> >  another any cheap mp3 player will do. but for total access to what you 
> > are playing the stream is the player of choice. I even excuse the $300 
> > price tag. for the access you get that is a bargain.- Original 
> > Message - 
> >  From: Lauren
> >  To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> >  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:37 AM
> >  Subject: mp3 players best for totally blind people
> >
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  Can you please suggest a MP3 player or Ipod that is best for a totally 
> > blind person to operate? Thanks.
> >
> >  Sincerely,
> >
> >  Lauren
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Re: mp3 direct cut

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No. As much of a Gold Wave advocate as I am, I will never advocate Gold 
Wave for working on existing MP3's, as that inevitably means 
lossy-to-lossy conversion, which always, always yields quality loss.


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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Christopher Wright wrote:


Give Goldwave a try. It will solve your recording and file splitting
problems.
- Original Message -
From: "dean martineau" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:15 AM
Subject: RE: mp3 direct cut



I have several questions about Mp3 Direct Cut.  I have figured out much of
the program, but there are still a few things that don't make sense.

First, I don't see the ctrl+arrow keys changing the volume of a selection,
or of anything.

Second, I can't quite figure out what the E shortcut key does.

Third, I see how to create split points either by pause detection or
auto-cue, but I can't see any way to manually insert a split point in a
file.

Fourth, the recording feature appears pretty inaccessible.  Has anybody

had

better luck with it?

Fifth, What is high-speed recording?  It isn't even described in the

manual,

but it is a menu option and a feature which they tout for the program.

The program is quite useful, but I'd like to understand as much of it as I
can.

Thanks.

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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

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Amazon lists all sorts of CD's and MP3 downloadst by Mystic Moods 
Orchestra. I just looked.


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On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote:

I would like that, but I checked on line about a couple of record albums from 
the Mystic Moods orchestra:  Namely One Stormy Night and Emotions.  I hear 
they were a group from San Francisco who did these albums in the 60s! And 
when I found out about those albums, I heard that they never made copies of 
those albums on CD!  They used a lot of interesting sound effects, like 
thunder in One Stormy Night, and there was also a sound of a train that used 
the steam engine with the sound I remember before the Diesels.  And the 
emotions album had other kinds of sounds as well!  And also the music was 
good.  It was relaxing!  But nowhere is there a CD version of those albums, 
because they never did one.  If anyone else wants to check, that's fine, but 
I think you'll have a dry run, like I did.

- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not
available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could
produce with home-grown equipment.

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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

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The water example is an excellent one, speaking as one who can't stand the 
taste of chlorine. Thanks for this very good message.


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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Bob Seed wrote:

Not so, although you may think it is because you are playing it on the same 
equipment that it was recorded on. Take that same recording and bring it to a 
professional studio and you will quickly notice the difference. Having said 
that there are recording artists that record their songs at home in order to 
save money on professional recordings, and the quality of their recording is 
acceptable to be put on a CD. The standards for home recording equipment is 
improving dramatically, and definitely meets the standards of low end 
professional equipment. Most radio stations that play CD's on air use home 
equipment, as it is much cheaper, and when it breaks down they throw it away 
and simply get a new machine. Professional broadcast quality CD players sell 
for over two-thousand dollars for a single unit, and a home unit can be 
purchased for under a hundred bucks. You would be hard pressed to detect the 
difference in audio playback quality  between a home and professional unit on 
a broadcast station. By the time that signal leaves the studio and ends up on 
your receiver it goes through a number of changes. Audio processing and 
equalization are just a few of these changes that take place in the chain of 
events between the studio, transmitter, and your receiver. Broadcast 
engineers do their best to make sure that the quality of their audio is as 
close as possible to the quality of the audio that leaves the studio. The 
best analogy that I can think of is a water treatment plant that cleans up 
your drinking water. To some people the taste of the water is acceptable, and 
to others the taste of chlorine in the water is unacceptable. The audio 
debate will definitely take on another form once we move into HD digital 
broadcast audio.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


bruce i would have to respectifully disagree with you
with a good home recording set up you can get the same pro recordings as the
pro's do, and so for those of you who like to do the restoration of vinal,
tapes, 78's and lps and reels and the like go for it
----- Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


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available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could
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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

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Part of the problem with DBX was that if you listened to a DBX-recorded 
tape on a non-DBX system, it sounded absolutely horrible.


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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Schindler wrote:

I thought the rotary head machines like the dat recorders were better for 
recording too, but like so many formats, they came and went. another example 
was the digital cassette machines that could play analog tapes also. by the 
time I decided to buy one they didn't make them any more. many noise 
reduction systems came and went too, like DBX which was one of my favorites, 
far superior to Dolby. you could do some real nice mastering, but it never 
caught on with the general public for home recording.   companies like Sony 
and Philips float things out their but if the equipment isn't marketed 
properly or is to complex for the average consumer it won't fly.



- Original Message - From: "Bob Seed" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Does it really make a difference? After all the CD that you buy is a copy of
the master, and that so called master might yet be a second or third
generation of that same master. When CD's were introduced record companies
simply made copies of inferior quality recordings with out remastering them
with the latest technology in order to make a quick buck.  A good ear should
be able to detect poor audio on CD'S especially those oldies that were never
cleaned up. Mis aligned recording and playback heads really stand out when
playing an inferior CD. I would suggest that when copping vinyl to CD that
you tweek the recording to the best of your ability and go from there. It is
highly unlikely that you will get two people that will agree when it comes
to audio quality. What may sound good to me might sound inferior to you. I
still think that the DAT tape would have been the way to go, but
unfortunately the DAT technology was not accepted by the public, although it
was used quite extensively in the recording and broadcast industry. .
.  .   .
- Original Message - From: "Gary Wood" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables


Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into
my computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then
transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second
generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one!
- Original Message - From: "Ray" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables


Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw,
the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these
turntables are very basic performers technically.

I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good
pre-amp.  These cost!

Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for
service.

After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about
sound quality.  I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know
it is going to be time-consuming.

Hope these thoughts are of some help.

Ray.
Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
In a word, awful.  


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables

I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be.



-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Ray
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in
Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs.  Still we're
talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the
two.

I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff.  I
know here a brand called ION  has seemingly cornered the market in three
seperate units  that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos.  So
I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this
via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go.

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Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

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Are professionally-produced CD's of the albums you're interested in not 
available? They may well have much better sound than anything you could 
produce with home-grown equipment.


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On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Gary Wood wrote:

Well maybe I'LL have to settle for getting a cassette deck that plugs into my 
computer and putting the cassette copy I have on the harddrive, and then 
transfer to CD, but a problem with this is that then, it's a second 
generation copy, and I hear those aren't as good as a first one!

- Original Message - From: "Ray" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables


Must say Dave, simply from my impressions of the ION USB turntable I saw,
the build quality didn't seem impressive so I'm inclined to think these
turntables are very basic performers technically.

I'd much sooner go for a Hi Fi turntable with magnetic cartridge and a good
pre-amp.  These cost!

Either that or consider using a company doing vinyl transfer as a paid-for
service.

After all is said though, depends entirely on how critical you are about
sound quality.  I've yet to start transfering my treasured vinyls but I know
it is going to be time-consuming.

Hope these thoughts are of some help.

Ray.
Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
In a word, awful.  


-Original Message-
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Subject: RE: Seeking information on USB turntables

I'm just wondering what quality of turntable these will be.



-Original Message-
On Behalf Of Ray
Subject: Re: Seeking information on USB turntables

Well, there were such things as Music Centres - as we called them here in
Brittain - which combined turntables with cassette decs.  Still we're
talking 'old' here, and I guess you want a USB hardware device that does the
two.

I've not seen an USB combi anywhere for transfering old anoalogue stuff.  I
know here a brand called ION  has seemingly cornered the market in three
seperate units  that do vinyl records, audio cassettes, and VHS videos.  So
I if you've not held on to the various old stuff that could have done this
via hooking through a converter, then this is the only way to go.

Ray.




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Re: suddenly not enough space on my cd

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Please don't be insulted by this question, but is tehre any chance at
all you're using the dummy disk at the beginning or end of the spindle,
or that you've placed an already-burned disk in the drive instead? Or it
could be a defective blank.

Bruce


On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:20:45 -0700, "Robert doc Wright"
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> I tried burning a cd this morning using nero6 ultra. the last time I used
> it it worked just fine. Now no matter how small I make the compilation it
> saying that there is not enough space on the cd.
> 
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.WMA Files and the Mac

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Does the Mac have the facilities to play .wma files?

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Gold Wave and Freeverb

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Does anyone know how to install the Freeverb plugin so that it can be used 
with Gold Wave? I did it on my previous computer, but that was years ago 
and I have forgotten what I did.


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Re: PTP1 and the Victor Stream query.

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At the moment, the Stream supports more file formats than does the
Plextalk. That may well change. The stream also has a longer battery
life. I don't know if the Plextalk can support play lists and so on. If
it can't, I've no doubt it will at some point in the future.

Bruce


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> Does anyone know how the new Plextalk PTP1 stacks up against the Victor
> Stream when playing music?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated all over the place.
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Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ?

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I wish you could, too. I'm not fiercely anti-Real, like some are, but I do 
prefer Winamp for playing non-Real material, resorting to Real when I have 
to. But it's set up so visually, I just want to turn all that off and have 
a regular little noninvasive player. It would also be nice if I could 
adjust the volume separately from speech, which I can only do thanks to 
the Vista volume control.


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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Mike Pietruk wrote:


Bruce

I don't have that issue with Real Player; of course, I have never used the
libraries for anything either so perhaps that's why I have never seen this
as an issue.
I use RP for listening to Podcasts downloaded with either Juice or iTunes
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Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ?

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Well, if your favorite player is Real Player, can you please tell me how 
to turn off all the libraries and assorted stuff to just make it a basic 
player I can move around in and so on?


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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Mike Pietruk wrote:


I have never noticed a difference; and I cannot think why there should be
a difference.
I wonder if those who detect such a difference if that difference may be
the result of a default equalization imposed by the player which the user
happens to be favored.
Since all players allow for adjustments, this could be modified.
While my personal preference in use is Real Player, I find all players
satisfactory from a sound quality standpoint and would never not listen to
a stream because it required the use of a specific player.






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Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ?

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I think that plays into this sort of thing much more than many audiofiles 
are willing to admit, including the vinyl versus CD debate, and whether 
320K bitrate sound substantially worse than CD quality. I'm not saying 
that it's all psychological, but I'm just saying that it's probably, in my 
opinion, more psychological than the experts and wannabe experts are 
willing to admit.


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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Steve Pattison wrote:


An interesting way to test this would be to play a song to someone using
say Foobar, Winamp and Windows Media Player without them knowing which
player was playing the song and then see if they could identify the
players correctly.  I certainly don't think I could tell what software
player was playing a file just by listening to it.  This raises the
issue of whether a software player sounds better to someone simply
because they like that player better.  I don't have all the answers to
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Christmas Music Streams

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Are there any Winamp-compatible streams out there that are playing a 
format of all Christmas music?


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Success Browsing to Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor

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Dana, you're my hero. If you're ever in Winnipeg I'll buy you a pizza. 
 We got your technique for using the graphic to work and I am able 
to browse to the location. Thank you so very much for persevering.


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Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info

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I'm afraid I'm not getting it. But I truly do appreciate your efforts on 
my behalf.


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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Dana S. Leslie wrote:


Bruce,

Try this:
With graphics set to Show all, tab through the ripper screen until your focus 
is on the combo box that selects a drive letter for your output files. Route 
the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, then switch to the JAWS cursor, and move it 
to the end of the current line. The graphic you need to label should be 
there, at the end of the line. Label it "Browse," or something similar.


When you click on that graphic, a dialogue opens, showing a standard treeview 
of the drive selected in the combo box. Navigate to the folder or subfolder 
where you want to put your output files, and press enter. The dialogue will 
close, and the name of the folder you selected will appear in the combo box, 
in place of the drive letter. From that point, proceed as in previous 
versions of the software.

Good luck.

Blessed Be,

Dana
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- Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input 
Device" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info


I have no sighted assistance at my disposal, so I guess I'm SOL. But
thanks for the explanation, it now makes a great deal more sense.

Bruce


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:23:00 -0500, "Dana S. Leslie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

 Bruce,

 Unfortunately, that way of selecting a destination folder HAS become
 common
 in many graphically-oriented programs. Jukka introduced it into Easy CDDA
 Extractor in version 11.0, which is where I first encountered it. So,
 when I
 put in version 12, I knew all I'd have to do was to get sighted
 assistance
 to find the correct icon to label, and then proceed as described below.

 Good luck.

 Blessed Be,

 Dana
 that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
 If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized
 pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.

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 - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input
 Device" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info


 Thanks, Dana. That's what I needed to know to at least understand what
 I'm up against. Now I know how he's done it. And he says that's a
 standard control.

 Bruce


 On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:50:07 -0500, "Dana S. Leslie"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  Bruce,
> 
>  Off to the right of the combo box that lets you choose a drive letter 
>  for

>  the destination of your ripped files, there is a graphical icon of a
>  folder.
>  I just got some sighted assistance to help me place the mouse pointer on
>  that icon, and label it, with the graphics labeler. Now, when I switch 
>  to

>  the JAWS cursor and click on that icon, a dialogue opens that lets me
>  choose
>  a subfolder of the drive, as the destination folder.
> 
>  Of course, once you've selected the destination you wish, it remains

>  selected as the new default destination, until you change it; so you'll
>  never need to play with that icon again, unless you want to change the
>  destination, for some reason.
> 
>  Good luck.
> 
>  Blessed Be,
> 
>  Dana

>  that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>  If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your 
>  customized

>  pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> 
>  D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman

>  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  - Original Message - From: "Dana S. Leslie" 
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:14 AM
>  Subject: Re: Choosing Locat

Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info

[Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device]

Thanks, Dana. That's what I needed to know to at least understand what
I'm up against. Now I know how he's done it. And he says that's a
standard control.

Bruce


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:50:07 -0500, "Dana S. Leslie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> 
> Off to the right of the combo box that lets you choose a drive letter for 
> the destination of your ripped files, there is a graphical icon of a
> folder. 
> I just got some sighted assistance to help me place the mouse pointer on 
> that icon, and label it, with the graphics labeler. Now, when I switch to 
> the JAWS cursor and click on that icon, a dialogue opens that lets me
> choose 
> a subfolder of the drive, as the destination folder.
> 
> Of course, once you've selected the destination you wish, it remains 
> selected as the new default destination, until you change it; so you'll 
> never need to play with that icon again, unless you want to change the 
> destination, for some reason.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Blessed Be,
> 
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized 
> pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> 
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor
> 
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> There's a graphical icon you need to click on in order to change the
> default
> location. If you don't have sighted assistance to click on it (I haven't
> been able to label it with the Jaws labeler, either.), just accept the
> default location (my documents\my music), and, when you're done, cut and
> paste the ripped tracks where you really want them.
> 
> Blessed Be,
> 
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized
> pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> 
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
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> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:47 AM
> Subject: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor
> 
> 
> >I have a bunch of completely legal CD's that I want to conver to
> > completely legal MP3's. Each disk is one track, so I don't have to worry
> > about choosing tracks or anything like that. Has anyone at least gotten,
> > in Easy CD-DA Extractor 12, the "choose a location" feature to work
> > correctly? I don't have the fabled version 9, and besides, I want to use
> > the new extraction engine in 12 to do this. I would use Exact Audio
> > Copy, but EAC does not like these disks. Anyone have any thoughts?
> >
> > bruce
> >
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Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info

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I have no sighted assistance at my disposal, so I guess I'm SOL. But
thanks for the explanation, it now makes a great deal more sense.

Bruce


On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:23:00 -0500, "Dana S. Leslie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bruce,
> 
> Unfortunately, that way of selecting a destination folder HAS become
> common 
> in many graphically-oriented programs. Jukka introduced it into Easy CDDA 
> Extractor in version 11.0, which is where I first encountered it. So,
> when I 
> put in version 12, I knew all I'd have to do was to get sighted
> assistance 
> to find the correct icon to label, and then proceed as described below.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Blessed Be,
> 
> Dana
> that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized 
> pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> 
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor, Further Info
> 
> 
> Thanks, Dana. That's what I needed to know to at least understand what
> I'm up against. Now I know how he's done it. And he says that's a
> standard control.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:50:07 -0500, "Dana S. Leslie"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Bruce,
> >
> > Off to the right of the combo box that lets you choose a drive letter for
> > the destination of your ripped files, there is a graphical icon of a
> > folder.
> > I just got some sighted assistance to help me place the mouse pointer on
> > that icon, and label it, with the graphics labeler. Now, when I switch to
> > the JAWS cursor and click on that icon, a dialogue opens that lets me
> > choose
> > a subfolder of the drive, as the destination folder.
> >
> > Of course, once you've selected the destination you wish, it remains
> > selected as the new default destination, until you change it; so you'll
> > never need to play with that icon again, unless you want to change the
> > destination, for some reason.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Blessed Be,
> >
> > Dana
> > that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized
> > pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> >
> > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Skype: dsleslie
> > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor
> >
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > There's a graphical icon you need to click on in order to change the
> > default
> > location. If you don't have sighted assistance to click on it (I haven't
> > been able to label it with the Jaws labeler, either.), just accept the
> > default location (my documents\my music), and, when you're done, cut and
> > paste the ripped tracks where you really want them.
> >
> > Blessed Be,
> >
> > Dana
> > that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized
> > pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.
> >
> > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor
> >
> >
> > >I have a bunch of completely legal CD's that I want to conver to
> > > completely legal MP3's. Each disk is one track, so I don't have to worry
> > > about choosing tracks or anything like that. Has anyone at least gotten,
> > > in Easy CD-DA Extractor 12, the "choo

Choosing Location in Easy CD-DA Extractor

[Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device]

I have a bunch of completely legal CD's that I want to conver to
completely legal MP3's. Each disk is one track, so I don't have to worry
about choosing tracks or anything like that. Has anyone at least gotten,
in Easy CD-DA Extractor 12, the "choose a location" feature to work
correctly? I don't have the fabled version 9, and besides, I want to use
the new extraction engine in 12 to do this. I would use Exact Audio
Copy, but EAC does not like these disks. Anyone have any thoughts?

bruce

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I Was Wrong

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I was wrong to recommend Easy CD-DA Extractor to people. It once was a
very, very accessible program, but has become increasingly less so over
the versions. It is still a marvelous tool for burning audio or data
CD's or data DVD's. But for ripping CD's, version 12 is all but
unusable, or at least it has been in my experience. The author insists
that standard controls are being used, and if our screen readers can't
handle standard controls, that's our problem. I am truly sorry to anyone
who, on my recommendation, may have purchased this program and given its
author money he does not deserve. If you are looking for a good,
accessible burning solution, Easy CD-DA Extractor meets those
qualifications. But as other accessibility has decreased over the
versions, who knows what may happen with the burning capabilities. I
really thought the author was committed to trying to make the program
accessible, but clearly he is not, and my public endorsement of the
program was unfounded. The track listings and the file location controls
are not standard controls, nowhere near standard controls. The author
says he will not sacrifice functionality for accessibility. We are not
asking for decreased functionality, was are simply asking for the
accessibility. It is unfortunate that it has come to this. Again, my
sincere apologies for the high praise and recommendation I gave for this
program in the past.

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Re: Extracting a Range

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Control+n does nothing in Easy CD-DA Extractor. At least nothing for me.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Robert doc Wright wrote:


Have you tried "easy cd extractor" control n then pressing the space bar on the 
ones you want to rip?
- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Extracting a Range


Okay. Here's the deal. I have Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD-DA Extractor at
my disposal, and I can't figure out how to do what I want with the latest
version of either.

I have a disk with twenty tracks on it. I want to extract the first ten
tracks as a single file. With the latest version of Easy CD-DA Extractor,
I can't figure out how to select the tracks, and with Exact Audio Copy I
can't figure out how to select only part of the disk for an extraction
range. Anyone have any ideas?

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RE: Extracting a Range

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I'm one of those who has trouble with CDEx putting gaps in tracks.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Scott Erichsen wrote:


CDEX will let you do this. I sometimes use it for this purpose.


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Okay. Here's the deal. I have Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD-DA Extractor at
my disposal, and I can't figure out how to do what I want with the latest
version of either.

I have a disk with twenty tracks on it. I want to extract the first ten
tracks as a single file. With the latest version of Easy CD-DA Extractor,
I can't figure out how to select the tracks, and with Exact Audio Copy I
can't figure out how to select only part of the disk for an extraction
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Extracting a Range

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Okay. Here's the deal. I have Exact Audio Copy and Easy CD-DA Extractor at 
my disposal, and I can't figure out how to do what I want with the latest 
version of either.


I have a disk with twenty tracks on it. I want to extract the first ten 
tracks as a single file. With the latest version of Easy CD-DA Extractor, 
I can't figure out how to select the tracks, and with Exact Audio Copy I 
can't figure out how to select only part of the disk for an extraction 
range. Anyone have any ideas?


Bruce

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Re: Listening to CJOB Radio Online

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Thanks so much, Frank. That worked. I wonder where this comes from, as 
CJOB isn't supposed to have an MP3 stream.


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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Frank Brown wrote:


Hello Bruce,
Sorry about that.  It looks like the www.vtuner.com site where I found that 
link is temporarily down.  However I went to my Winamp history and found this 
link to CJOB which I tested and is working as of 8:20 Pm Sunday Nov. 16. 
Hope this one works for you as well.

http://208.80.52.130:80/CJOBAM2CMP3

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Re: Listening to CJOB Radio Online

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Thanks for the suggestion. Seemed logical, so I tried it, but 
unfortunately, no go. The player comes up, but there's no sound.


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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Frank Brown wrote:


  Hello Bruce,
I've had similar problems in the past with links not opening in my browser 
that would work fine on other computers.
The solution that has usually worked for me is to go into my internet 
security settings and reset them to the default settings.  Apparently if they 
are set a certain way they can block a web site from sending streaming files 
to you.  Of course you need to make sure that your antivirus and antispyware 
programs are up-to-date and working before you change your security settings. 
But I've found this method works when nothing else does. HTH.


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Re: Listening to CJOB Radio Online

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Thanks Frank. Unfortunately, that link isn't working for me either. I 
tried loading it in my browser and directly in Winamp with no results. I 
do appreciate your efforts.


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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Frank Brown wrote:


Hello Bruce,
I found an mp3 stream for CJOB  that I tested today and works fine.  The link 
is:

http://www.vtuner.com/vtunerweb/asp/StatLaunchMP3.asp?id=6639&link=1
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Listening to CJOB Radio Online

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I am having trouble listening to CJOB radio online. If you go to 
http://bt.shellworld.net, the first link you see is for CJOB. It works for 
other people but not for me. I have the latest version of the Adobe Flash 
Player installed. I don't understand why I'm having a problem and others 
are not.


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Re: please accept my apology people I didn't mean to sound like I was talking about illegal matters

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You weren't *soundling* like you were talking about illegal matters, as 
you put it, you *were* talking about illegal matters.

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Maheen Wickramasinghe wrote:

I am very, very sorry Jonathan I truly hope you will accept my deepest 
apology and will not ban me.

- Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Yeah I hope the moderator has noticed this thread and will remove maheen
 for
 discussing illegal activities on this list as he knows better than to do
 so.

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 Well that explains it then. You get what you deserve in a situation like
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>  Oh, I got it from a torrent.
>  - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon"
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> >   Folks, does anybody have any idea whether sound forge 9 works well? I

> >   downloaded it but everytime I try putting in the key, I get this
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Re: sound forge 9

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Well that explains it then. You get what you deserve in a situation like 
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Maheen Wickramasinghe wrote:


Oh, I got it from a torrent.
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 It means that Your key is invalid.  Did you get it illegally or something?

 Rick
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 Folks, does anybody have any idea whether sound forge 9 works well? I
 downloaded it but everytime I try putting in the key, I get this annoying
 music. Has anyone else had this problem?
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Re: Audio cd burner

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No it's not. It's worth the small price, however, considering what you 
get: audio extractor, audio converter, burning utility for audio and data 
CD's or data DVD's, and more.


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Tiffany Gordon wrote:


Hey Bruce. Is it free too?

Tiffany
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 The one I personally use is Easy CD-DA Extractor from www.poikosoft.com.

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>  Does anyone have an audio cd burn program, free or paid, Jaws friendly 
>  and easy to understand and burn music cd's??  Any information 
>  appreciated.  I have Windows Media, Roxio and infrareccorder non of 
>  which I can use.  Windows Media did burn about 10 discs and will not 
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Re: Audio cd burner

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The one I personally use is Easy CD-DA Extractor from www.poikosoft.com.

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Does anyone have an audio cd burn program, free or paid, Jaws friendly and easy 
to understand and burn music cd's??  Any information appreciated.  I have 
Windows Media, Roxio and infrareccorder non of which I can use.  Windows Media 
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Easy CD-DA Extractor 12 Now Available

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Easy CD-DA Extractor version 12 is now available from www.poikosoft.com.
I have not tried it yet, and will not be able to until I get home.

What's new in version 12 ?

 

New features

New AccurateCDDA(tm) Audio CD ripping engine for improved performance
and state-of-the-art error detection

Support for new metadata properties; Rating, Lyrics, Disc #, Total
discs, and Total tracks

Audio Converter shows file properties; Length, Bit rate, Bit depth,
Sample rate, Channels, and Filesize

5 profiles which each save their own settings (2xmultiple files, single
file output, samples, and disc image)

Gapless MP3

Gapless MP3 -> other formats conversion

Gapless MP3 -> Audio CD burning

Make disc image from CD/DVD/BD discs

Burn disc image to CD/DVD

New CD-player with faster response time

Support for MusicBrainz metadata server

Manual search

Option to specify search priority (freedb vs. MusicBrainz)

 

Up-to-date Audio Codecs

Support for Apple Lossless encoding

Improved the performance of all codecs

Improved the encoding quality of MP3 encoder

 

Improved support for 64-bit Windows XP and Windows Vista

Autoplay handler for 64-bit Windows

Right-click menu in 64-bit Windows Explorer

 

Improved user interface

New features, such as user selectable/draggable column headers

New logo and graphics

New Vista-style 32-bit alpha blended icons

 

 

 

 
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Re: Cd/Dvd Burning Program.

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If you want to burn audio or data CD's or data DVD's, for ease of use
you simply cannot beat Easy CD-DA Extractor from www.poikosoft.com. All
you need to do is select your files, choose the right option from the
context menu, and press F8.

Bruce


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> Hi! All.
> 
>  
> 
>  Can anyone please tell me where there is a good Cd/Dvd burning program
>  that
> will work with JAWS or all screenreaders. I am willing to pay for it, but
> if
> there is a free shareware program out there, that does, could please let
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Re: fm transmitters revisited

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If you want to receive your signal on 106.7, then the transmitter must
also transmit on 106.7. The idea is to get your transmitter to transmit
on a frequency where there isn't already a station. In Winnipeg, with
25+ FM signals, this is tricky.

Bruce


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> What I'm not understanding is how that relates to the transmitter. Is the
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> 
> 
> Doc
> 
> 106.7 is at the far right of the fm band.
> The highest fm band frequency is 107.9 here in North America.
> 
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RE: information on the plextalk pocket

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>From what I can ascertain, the Plextalk offers somewhat more by way of
recording: stereo, recording to DAISY. It is also just a touch smaller.
The Stream can play many more formats, including Audible, OGG Vorbis,
FLAC, unprotected WMA, RTF, and BRF files, so that's where it shines. I
believe it is also a little cheaper.

Bruce


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> I isn't on the plextalk website!  So all that I can think is that Jim
> perhaps has one of these units!
> 
> Thanx jim for putting it up on your server.  As usual for plextalk units
> the
> guide seems to be written extremely well.
> 
> If you do have this unit already, can you give some initial impressions?
> 
> Andre
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> If the manual is online, post the URL, and everyone who wants it can get
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RE: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme

[Bruce Toews]

I have never used an external mike with the Stream, so I can't say. I'm
guessing that it would depend on the quality of your mike, but that's
just a guess. I don't want to make a statement I can't back up.

Bruce


On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:15:20 +0200, "André van Deventer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi Bruce
> 
> Thanx a million.  Does it make a difference if you plug in an external
> microphone?  Do you find that the audio quality improves?
> 
> Andre
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: 09 October 2008 05:45 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme
> 
> While the quality of the recording isn't what I would call studio
> quality,
> it is remarkably good for its size and for the price, given that the
> Stream
> is not first and foremost a recording device. I also have a serious
> hearing
> impairment, so I can relate, but I have been amazed by the Stream's
> recording quality.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:33:04 +0200, "André van Deventer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I hhave some questions regarding the victor reader xtreme especially 
> > regarding it's recording quality.
> > 
> > This is probably one of the best pieces  of technology to come out in 
> > a long time.
> > 
> > But can it be used effectively as a recorder for lectures and 
> > conferences?
> > And will an external microphone make a significant difference  in the 
> > recording quality of this machine?
> > 
> > Would you be able to compare the recording quality with e.g. something 
> > like the olympus recorders?
> > 
> > I have a serious hearing impairment so sound quality is of great 
> > importance to me.
> > 
> > I cannot seem to find any sample recordings of this machine anywhere. 
> > There
> > are some good reviews though.
> > 
> > Andre
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Re: Recording quality of victor reader xtreme

[Bruce Toews]

While the quality of the recording isn't what I would call studio
quality, it is remarkably good for its size and for the price, given
that the Stream is not first and foremost a recording device. I also
have a serious hearing impairment, so I can relate, but I have been
amazed by the Stream's recording quality.

Bruce


On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:33:04 +0200, "André van Deventer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi all
> 
> I hhave some questions regarding the victor reader xtreme especially
> regarding it's recording quality.
> 
> This is probably one of the best pieces  of technology to come out in a
> long
> time.
> 
> But can it be used effectively as a recorder for lectures and
> conferences?
> And will an external microphone make a significant difference  in the
> recording quality of this machine?
> 
> Would you be able to compare the recording quality with e.g. something
> like
> the olympus recorders?
> 
> I have a serious hearing impairment so sound quality is of great
> importance
> to me.
> 
> I cannot seem to find any sample recordings of this machine anywhere. 
> There
> are some good reviews though.
> 
> Andre
> 
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Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

[Bruce Toews]

Humanware sold the card strictly for convenience. I bought my own as well.

bruce

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Larry Naessens wrote:

> Bruce, I agree completely. I just bought a stream a couple of weeks ago and
> I love it. I use it for books and music and wouldn't be without it. When not
> using it with headphones I'm plugging it into a set of speakers where it
> sounds great too. It's a great way to listen to Audible books, which i use a
> lot.The only thing that I didn't buy as part of the package was their Sd
> card. I wanted 16 gigs and got a much better card price with lots more size
> at Tiger Direct.
>
> L
>
>
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> media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>
>> Is it possible that you tried the Stream's MP3 capabilities before they
>> added independent bass and treble control for music? The Stream was
>> designed first and foremost as a book reader, and its music capabilities
>> are kind of a work in progress. You won't find a better player anywhere
>> for Audible content, there are the NLS books (applicable for Americans
>> only), its DAISY capabilities are second to none, and for something so
>> small, the voice recorder feature is absolutely fantastic. It's not
>> everyone's answer, of course, people have different needs depending on
>> geography, lifestyle, and financial considerations, but it is one answer
>> that has worked and does work for many.
>>
>> bruce
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:
>>
>>> The stream is a great product, but I have to say that I don't think its
>>> MP3
>>> quality is that hot.  Admittedly, I've not played many others, so it is
>>> certainly possible that they are all the same.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:36 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>>
>>> The problem I have with these devices is the same old 1 and that comes
>>> down to how much money you have.
>>>
>>> If you can't afford an Ipod Nano (and I accept that perhaps you can't)
>>> , then there are some other great alternatives out there and I
>>> mention this just to show that I'm not bias towards Apple Ipods in any
>>> way but what I do have a bias against are products which are so
>>> expensive in order that they be accessible, in other words products
>>> exclusively designed for the blind but that's another topic for
>>> another day .
>>>
>>> First, take a look at the Creative Zenstone line of players and (even
>>> better than that I'm told) take a look at some of the Sandisk players.
>>>
>>> Now if you want an Ipod that's perfectly accessible then perhaps you
>>> can take a look at one of the Shuffles, if you can use a CD player
>>> then you can certainly have a good shuffle.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/09/2008, at 3:53 AM, Rick Harmon wrote:
>>>
>>>> The stream rules totally.  I love it and would recommend it highly
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> - Original Message -
>

RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

[Bruce Toews]

Is it possible that you tried the Stream's MP3 capabilities before they 
added independent bass and treble control for music? The Stream was 
designed first and foremost as a book reader, and its music capabilities 
are kind of a work in progress. You won't find a better player anywhere 
for Audible content, there are the NLS books (applicable for Americans 
only), its DAISY capabilities are second to none, and for something so 
small, the voice recorder feature is absolutely fantastic. It's not 
everyone's answer, of course, people have different needs depending on 
geography, lifestyle, and financial considerations, but it is one answer 
that has worked and does work for many.

bruce

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:

> The stream is a great product, but I have to say that I don't think its MP3
> quality is that hot.  Admittedly, I've not played many others, so it is
> certainly possible that they are all the same.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:36 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
> The problem I have with these devices is the same old 1 and that comes
> down to how much money you have.
>
> If you can't afford an Ipod Nano (and I accept that perhaps you can't)
> , then there are some other great alternatives out there and I
> mention this just to show that I'm not bias towards Apple Ipods in any
> way but what I do have a bias against are products which are so
> expensive in order that they be accessible, in other words products
> exclusively designed for the blind but that's another topic for
> another day .
>
> First, take a look at the Creative Zenstone line of players and (even
> better than that I'm told) take a look at some of the Sandisk players.
>
> Now if you want an Ipod that's perfectly accessible then perhaps you
> can take a look at one of the Shuffles, if you can use a CD player
> then you can certainly have a good shuffle.
>
>
> On 20/09/2008, at 3:53 AM, Rick Harmon wrote:
>
>> The stream rules totally.  I love it and would recommend it highly
>> as well.
>>
>> Rick
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>
>>
>> I'm not Jonathan, though I know he'll be able to offer you some great
>> advice too. I can't recommend highly enough the Victor Reader
>> Stream. It
>> may be overkill for what you want, but it is small, easy to use, 100%
>> accessible, and works very well with music, boks, podcasts, and the
>> like. You can hook your thumb drive right into it if you want to,
>> thoughthe best way to use it is with n SD card. Mine is 16GB. That's
>> just one of many possibilities.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:37:52 -0700, "Kenbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>> Hi Jonathan;  A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a
>>> thumbdrive
>>> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
>>> that
>>> would enable me to listen independent of my pc?  Ken B
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
>>> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>>
>>>
>>>> You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once
>>>> those
>>>> recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be
>>>> connected
>>>> to
>>>> iTunes to have the speech.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Behalf Of Bobcat
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>>>>
>&g

Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

[Bruce Toews]

Seems pretty obvious to me. The subject is about podcasts about the Ipod, 
Jonathan's telling us of a podcast showing us how to use the program that 
interfaces with it.

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Keith Gillard wrote:

> OK what does that have to do with the subject line?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:55 AM
> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
>
> In the September edition of FSCast to be released next week, I'll be
> demonstrating JAWS working out of the box with iTunes 8.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 11:42 p.m.
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> Subject: Fwd: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>
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>
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>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X
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>> Blind Cool Tech Podcast." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Hello, all.  I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the content
>> of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this unique little
>> device.  I take you on a tour and a demo of the new, and I mean brand
>> new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation.  I also
>> demonstrate some features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
>> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
>> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
>> very soon concerning this very subject.  If you want the direct file,
>> it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and the link
>> for the podcast subscription is http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp .  I
>> look forward to doing more like this in the future, and I hope this
>> proves helpful to those of you who either have one of these or want
>> one.  Thanks!
>> Shane Jackson
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Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.

[Bruce Toews]

I'm not Jonathan, though I know he'll be able to offer you some great
advice too. I can't recommend highly enough the Victor Reader Stream. It
may be overkill for what you want, but it is small, easy to use, 100%
accessible, and works very well with music, boks, podcasts, and the
like. You can hook your thumb drive right into it if you want to,
thoughthe best way to use it is with n SD card. Mine is 16GB. That's
just one of many possibilities.

Bruce


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:37:52 -0700, "Kenbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi Jonathan;  A quiry here; I've just loaded some music onto a thumbdrive
> and am wondering if a small unit *to put in my pocket* coul be bought
> that
> would enable me to listen independent of my pc?  Ken B
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:57 AM
> Subject: RE: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
> 
> 
> > You do need to connect the Nano to iTunes to configure it, but once those
> > recordings are transferred to your nano, you don't need to be connected to
> > iTunes to have the speech.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Bobcat
> > Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2008 1:40 a.m.
> > To: PC Audio Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: New podcast concerning the new talking iPod Nano.
> >
> > Listened to the podcast.  Do I understand that it only talks when
> connected
> > to Itunes?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >> From: Shane Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Date: 19 September 2008 4:04:24 PM
> > >> Hello, all.  I am cross-posting this to several lists, as the content
> > >> of this podcast concerns all who are interested in this unique little
> > >> device.  I take you on a tour and a demo of the new, and I mean brand
> > >> new, talking iPod Nano 4th generation.  I also demonstrate some
> > >> features of Itunes with the Mac and the iPod.
> > >> Sorry, Windows users, I do not know how to use Itunes under your
> > >> operating system, so I trust someone will do a fine Windows podcast
> > >> very soon concerning this very subject.  If you want the direct file,
> > >> it is http://www.shanejackson.net/Talking_iPod_Nano.mp3 and the link
> > >> for the podcast subscription is http://feeds.feedburner.com/bwbp
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Looking for a Station

[Bruce Toews]

Hi. I am considering bringing my Toews on the Waves radio program back
from the grave. I am looking for a station to broadcast it on. For it to
work, the station would have to meet certain criteria ... not because I
or my show are better than the rest, because I/it aren't. Just look at
the grammar in that last sentence and you'll know this to be true. I may
not be able to find a station that meets these criteria, but I figured I
could try.

1. The station needs to be on 24/7, barring technical problems and so
on.

2. The owner of the station needs to be willing/able to accept
pre-recorded shows. I'd suck at live radio if I tried it, and I know it.

3. The station needs to have sufficient automation so I can upload a
show in advance and it will play at the predetermined time.

I want the exposure that an always-on station can offer. The previous
venue for my show was wonderful: Shellworld Radio did everything they
could to accomodate me and I can't thank them enough, but the resources
and so on just weren't there to keep the station on at all times, and
that made advertising my show difficult.

If anyone knows of such a station, if such a station even exists, I'd
love to hear about it. Thanks very much.

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RE: Itunes 8 now accessible

[Bruce Toews]

Jonathan, are they still using touch-screens or have they switched to
buttons? Or am I mistaking this with something else?

Bruce


On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:54:33 +1200, "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they
> are
> using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units
> including the hard drive-based players.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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Re: dvd audio extractor

[Bruce Toews]

DVD Audio Extractor from www.castudio.org will allow this.

Bruce


On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:44:34 -0600, "doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is
> great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I
> get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a
> single file for movies?
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Re: Problems creating an audio cd with Neero, a puzzler!

[Bruce Toews]

One of the nice things about Gold Wave is that, when you split a file
into smaller ones for the purposes of CD tracks, you can tell the
program to place the split so that the slight click won't happen. The
slight click has nothing to do with the sound card, it has to do with
the number of samples in a track.

Bruce


On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:41:40 -0500, "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> The one package I find that works quite well for creating (no break) 
> type cds from multiple files is
> acoustica cd burner. Right clicking can, even blend in a bit of the 
> one track into the other, so if there is a click between them, you 
> can make sure it doesn't happen due to a DC issue with your sound 
> card, giving you a few milliseconds of blend, enough so the end-user 
> doesn't know, only the engineer. :) It is a little tricky sometimes 
> with a screen reader, but it surely can be done.
> Curtis Delzer.
> HS
> go to
> http://www.cdburner.com
> 
> 
> 
> At 06:28 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote:
> >Well this sounds like a real novice question and thats ok but 
> >believe me its not, or at least I don't think so.
> >
> >I did some audio editing in Goldwave cutting sections from large 
> >audio files and breaking them out to several small files.
> >
> >I made sure each cut was trimmed nicely removing any silence at ends 
> >of both  files.
> >I then fired up Nero 6 to create the audio cd.
> >
> >I encountered the following problems.
> >
> >Here was my goal first of all.
> >You need this to understand the problem.
> >
> >I wanted an audio cd that played every track automaticly with no 
> >silence or gaps between tracks.
> >
> >I checked the no gaps between tracks or however Nero says it on the 
> >beginning screen.
> >
> >That didn't work.
> >
> >I then created another cd where I checked the same box but then went 
> >in to the advanced controls and checked remove silence at end of cda 
> >trakcs and even with both boxes checked it didn't work.
> >
> >If I played track 1 I manually had to advance to track 2 it just 
> >wouldn't play on its own unattended.
> >
> >What is going wrong?
> >
> >Is it a bug with my particular version of Nero?
> >Am I missing something, thats entirely possible?
> >
> >I need to create an audio cd with tracks but where one track plays 
> >rapid fire right after another as if there were no tracks.
> >
> >Yes I could merge the files in to one file and burbn it that way but 
> >I really wanted the track marks.
> >
> >what am I doing wrong?
> >
> >I need this for voice over demos and thats the way they want them these days.
> >
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >thanks in advance.
> >
> >Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: audible.com help/converting books to MP3

[Bruce Toews]

There are four Audible formats. While format 4 is based on the MP3
format, you are not getting standard protected MP3's. Audible does not
provide its books in standard MP3 format.

Bruce


On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:09:20 -0600, "constantine (on laptop)"
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> Hi,
> 
> If I'm not mistaken- yet I could be, because I don't use audible- there
> are 
> different audible formats. If you want mp3, I believe its audible 4, but
> I 
> have no idea what these other formats are- have you checked in audible 
> managers menu's? How about the download manager just for giggles?
> 
> Hope that helps some.
> 
> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!
> 
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> system details:
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> Fujitsu 
> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:00 AM
> Subject: audible.com help/converting books to MP3
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> 
> > First, I wasn't sure which to download--Audible Download Manager or 
> > Audible Manager--when purchasing my first book.  Not being sure I first 
> > downloaded Audible Download Manager but found it confusing and wasn't sure 
> > where in Media Player to find my file or how even to get into the player 
> > itself.  So I downloaded Audible Manager, which is on desktop and it says 
> > you can use its player or Windows Media.  Well I did get it to play with 
> > the Audible player and I do like the way it continues from where you left 
> > off when you re-open Audible Manager.  But I don't know the hot keys as 
> > far as forwarding, rewinding and using volume on this player and wouldn't 
> > mind help there.
> >
> > But what I'd also like help with is being able to somehow convert Audible 
> > books into MP3's so they can be played in Winamp.  I know that somehow 
> > they convert to small files and these files end in mid-sentence, but I do 
> > prefer Winamp and am hoping someone can show me how to convert books to 
> > MP3.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joanne
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Re: DVD audio extractor,an accessible one that is?

[Bruce Toews]

For an accessible audio-only extractor, I recommend DVD Audio Extractor 
from www.castudio.org.

Bruce
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Ok, have you tried Handbreak?
>
> Its open source and not only can it extract audio from DVD'S, it can
> extract the video and compress it, you may want to do this to put your
> DVD'S say onto a hard drive or Ipod for example.
>
> Now I use the Mac version here obviously  but when I used the
> Windows version I had no problem.
>
>
> On 15/08/2008, at 1:28 AM, Walter Ramage wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone.  I have a brief query.  I want to acquire an accessible
>> DVD
>> audio extractor to enable me to record music from the Satellite TV
>> music
>> stations and on to a DVD disc and then rip the audio to my PC hard
>> drive as
>> a WAVE file.  I did a google search and the first result that came
>> up was
>> the link below.  http://www.imtoo.com/dvd-audio-ripper.html.  My
>> question
>> is, is this an accessible programme.  If anyone has used this
>> programme then
>> I would appreciate your comments on it's ease of use, or otherwise.
>> If
>> anyone has any suggestions then they would be very welcome.  Walter.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: 14 August 2008 05:03
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: coby mp3 players
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I guess if you really want something simple that plays your
>> mp3s and you don't want to worry about going through menus, the
>> player is somewhat usable.
>> It's definitely no iPod, or Creative Zen Stone or anything like
>> that.  It's most certainly on the lower end of audio players.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:44 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote:
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>>> seen
>>> many Coby products, they are all terrible, trust me.
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Re: The quality of books from audible.com

[Bruce Toews]

I wouldn't use Audible for keepsakes, but for getting a book and listening 
to it, it's great, IMO. I'm not sure if what I'm trying to say makes any 
sense.

Bruce

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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Hi!
>
> What to users of http://www.audible.com think of the quality of audio
> books on the site? I have to admit to being a little disappointed that
> the quality was as low as it was, I've written to Audible about this
> and I hope that perhaps they may make higher quality encoded material
> available at some stage, I for one wouldn't mind paying a little
> more.  I cancelled my membership but I still have my account on the
> site as the service itself is a great one and I'm hoping that it will
> get even better over time.
>
>
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Re: winamp

[Bruce Toews]

You may have inadvertently turned shuffle mode on. Try pressing the
letter s and then restarting Winamp, see if that doesn't straighten
things out for you.

Bruce


On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:15:30 -0400, "jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hello listers I have a question about winamp when you are selecting
> random mp3's to play ina list how do you get them to play in in order,
> for instance if you select a tracks from 1 to 50 how do you get them to
> play from 1 to 50 instead of playing randomly for example after you
> select all the tracks it's playing on track 50 then it will skip to track
> 22 how do you get the tracks to play in order instead of skipping around?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jason known as Blind Fury
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