Re: tried Real player for many years.

2011-06-22 Thread Bardia

yes
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-06-22 00:02:
I have not installed or used realplayer in many years. In the 
beginning though it sure seemed like real player would b the king. 
Interesting isn't it?

bb
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Subject: tried Real player for many years.



Hello!
I have now tried RealPlayer for many years.
Finally, it was 2006 I was using RealPlayer.
Then with hal / supernova.
then it was bad.
now it is not as good.
but noticed with JAWS, it worked very bettre than before.
JAWS has preprogrammed script and instructions for using RealPlayer.
they tested a bit and what I want to say that the RealPlayer now has
keyboard shortcuts that work and that will arrive if you press the
insert or number
0beroende if you have laptops or not, and it h.
then it will up the commands available for the program.
  this in my PC with Windows 7.
safe operation of these commands to get enlightened with jawsknapp and h
in the ADNR system.
but have uninstalled RealPlayer now.
use vlc and windows media player.
but read this and ponder for those of you who are RealPlayer users.
/ Bardia.

hej!
Jag har nu prövat real player  efter många år.
sist var det 2006 jag använde real player .
Då med hal/supernova.
då var den dålig.
nu är den inte heller lika bra.
men märkte med jaws fungerade den  mycket bettre än tidigare.
jaws har förprogrammerat skript och hjälpanvisningar för real player.
testade de lite och det jag vill säga att real player har nu
kortkommandon som fungerar och  som kommer framm om man  trycker på
insert eller numm 0beroende på om man har laptop eller inte och sedan h.
då kommer det upp vilken kommandon som finns för programmet.
 detta i min dator med windows 7.
säkert fungerar dessa  att få kommandona upplysta med  jawsknapp och h
på de adnra system med.
men har avinstallerat real player nu.
använder vlc och windows media player.
men  läs detta och begrunda för er som är realplayer användare .
/Bardia.
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Re: tried Real player for many years.

2011-06-21 Thread Brett Boyer
I have not installed or used realplayer in many years. In the beginning 
though it sure seemed like real player would b the king. Interesting isn't 
it?

bb
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: tried Real player for many years.



Hello!
I have now tried RealPlayer for many years.
Finally, it was 2006 I was using RealPlayer.
Then with hal / supernova.
then it was bad.
now it is not as good.
but noticed with JAWS, it worked very bettre than before.
JAWS has preprogrammed script and instructions for using RealPlayer.
they tested a bit and what I want to say that the RealPlayer now has
keyboard shortcuts that work and that will arrive if you press the
insert or number
0beroende if you have laptops or not, and it h.
then it will up the commands available for the program.
  this in my PC with Windows 7.
safe operation of these commands to get enlightened with jawsknapp and h
in the ADNR system.
but have uninstalled RealPlayer now.
use vlc and windows media player.
but read this and ponder for those of you who are RealPlayer users.
/ Bardia.

hej!
Jag har nu prövat real player  efter många år.
sist var det 2006 jag använde real player .
Då med hal/supernova.
då var den dålig.
nu är den inte heller lika bra.
men märkte med jaws fungerade den  mycket bettre än tidigare.
jaws har förprogrammerat skript och hjälpanvisningar för real player.
testade de lite och det jag vill säga att real player har nu
kortkommandon som fungerar och  som kommer framm om man  trycker på
insert eller numm 0beroende på om man har laptop eller inte och sedan h.
då kommer det upp vilken kommandon som finns för programmet.
 detta i min dator med windows 7.
säkert fungerar dessa  att få kommandona upplysta med  jawsknapp och h
på de adnra system med.
men har avinstallerat real player nu.
använder vlc och windows media player.
men  läs detta och begrunda för er som är realplayer användare .
/Bardia.
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tried Real player for many years.

2011-06-21 Thread Bardia


Hello!
I have now tried RealPlayer for many years.
Finally, it was 2006 I was using RealPlayer.
Then with hal / supernova.
then it was bad.
now it is not as good.
but noticed with JAWS, it worked very bettre than before.
JAWS has preprogrammed script and instructions for using RealPlayer.
they tested a bit and what I want to say that the RealPlayer now has 
keyboard shortcuts that work and that will arrive if you press the 
insert or number

0beroende if you have laptops or not, and it h.
then it will up the commands available for the program.
  this in my PC with Windows 7.
safe operation of these commands to get enlightened with jawsknapp and h 
in the ADNR system.

but have uninstalled RealPlayer now.
use vlc and windows media player.
but read this and ponder for those of you who are RealPlayer users.
/ Bardia.

hej!
Jag har nu prövat real player  efter många år.
sist var det 2006 jag använde real player .
Då med hal/supernova.
då var den dålig.
nu är den inte heller lika bra.
men märkte med jaws fungerade den  mycket bettre än tidigare.
jaws har förprogrammerat skript och hjälpanvisningar för real player.
testade de lite och det jag vill säga att real player har nu 
kortkommandon som fungerar och  som kommer framm om man  trycker på 
insert eller numm 0beroende på om man har laptop eller inte och sedan h.

då kommer det upp vilken kommandon som finns för programmet.
 detta i min dator med windows 7.
säkert fungerar dessa  att få kommandona upplysta med  jawsknapp och h 
på de adnra system med.

men har avinstallerat real player nu.
använder vlc och windows media player.
men  läs detta och begrunda för er som är realplayer användare .
/Bardia.
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real player shourdcast and comands to jaws .

2011-04-07 Thread Bardia Zakeri
were  i can found  comands for real player and jaws  and shourtcat and 
shoudcast to  jaws and real player ?
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Re: Forwarding and Rewinding in Real Player 11

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Pietruk
Ray 

I most definitely will if it comes off the list or if I stumble upon it by 
experimentation or searching the net.





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Re: Forwarding and Rewinding in Real Player 11

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Pietruk

Ray

Ok.  I stumbled upon the answer.

The forward command is alt+right bracket 
and the rewind is alt + left bracket.  Left and right bracket, 
incidentally are just to the right of the letter p which is just below the 
numbers row. 
I don't have the fast forward and fast rewind commands yet.

Also, remember the seek to function (ctrl + e) which allows for jumping to 
a specific time in a file.





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Re: Forwarding and Rewinding in Real Player 11

2009-03-03 Thread Ray
Please let us know if you have off-list answers to this question.  Providing
an audio stream of our talking newspaper means I have an interest in
questions like this.

Ray.

Mike Pietruk wrote:
On one of our pcs, I upgraded from Real Player 10.5 to the current version
11.
What I have been unable to do so far is find a way to quickly fast forward
or rewind through a file as was done in earlier versions of RP.
Have the commands to do this been changed or eliminated?  If not, what are
they now?

Thanks in advance.





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Forwarding and Rewinding in Real Player 11

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Pietruk
On one of our pcs, I upgraded from Real Player 10.5 to the current version 
11.
What I have been unable to do so far is find a way to quickly fast forward 
or rewind through a file as was done in earlier versions of RP.
Have the commands to do this been changed or eliminated?  If not, what are 
they now?

Thanks in advance.





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Playing Purchased MP3's in Real Player after downloading songs through ITunes

2008-12-22 Thread JardataLearningCenterEmailService
Hello List!

I purchased several CD's from Amazon, which were downloaded throughtheir Amazon 
Downloads Manager that puts the songs in ITunes and/or Windows Media Player; 
however, after I went to the Amazonmp3 folder in MY Music, the MP3 files won't 
play--being choppy and skippy and then stopping altogether, which brings a 
message from Real Player and Windows that the Real Player program had to stop 
and close.  I tried the files on my other pC's and the same.  I did, however, 
burn the songs to a CD and they play like they do in ITunes, perfectly.  I 
tried to re-rip them back onto the system via Easy CD-DA Extractor, but got the 
same situation with the poor play.  

First of all, I was under the impression that MP3's will play in any system; I 
heard something about Apple and ITunes having certain rights for Apple 
downloaded music; I bought this music from Amazon.com and use a PC; why should 
Itunes have any rights to them.  Does Amazon use ITunes Store.  

I plan to use Amazon for some more music; that is, if I can then play them on 
any machine, since they belong to me; if I have trouble with Amazon's 
downloads, what can I do?  I can always change sources for music.

Now, could the problem be with Real Player or Winamp, as recently, I have been 
getting weird shut downs and have had to uninstall and reinstall both programs. 
 Are there any issues with these programs and could they be causing the ITunes 
stuff not playing in Real Player or Winamp problems I am now experiencing?

Answers please!

James Robinson


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Real player

2008-09-07 Thread Imbar Golt
Hi,

Can someone please upload the most accessible version of real player?
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Real Player 10.5 BBC version, QuickTime Alternative

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Don't Like RealPlayer? You've Got Options  

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Some folks say RealPlayer is loaded with ads. Here's how to play
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Setting Default Players (Windows Media Player; Winamp; or Real Player) in Vista

2007-10-26 Thread JardataMailServicesBox
Hello List!

I have a Toshiba notebook running Vista.  I want to have Winamp and Real Player 
on my system along with Windows Media Player.  Now, I did this on my HP Desktop 
running vista and it works, but I can for the world get it to work on my 
Toshiba.  I want Real Player to be my default player.  I have taken the 
requir3ed options and set Real Player as the option, but Media Player still 
runs the show and plays everything.  What do I need to do to get things set the 
way I want them?

Also, whenever I go to my web site and click on a link, which has a M3U file to 
be played, Windows Vista asks me to download the file.  It won't play it on the 
spot.  I think the same thing would happen with any type of files.  

How do you set default player to come on in Vista.  I have two notebooks to set 
up and another vista desktop.

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Re: Real Player question

2007-05-28 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Thanks for the info on this.  Just curious though - are the fast forward and 
rewind commands anywhere in the menus?  Because I couldn't find them, though 
I did find jump to...

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> in rp 10.5
>
> ctrl+rightarrow fast forwards
>
> and
>
> ctrl+left arrow
>
> rewinds.
>
>
> Also, there is a jump command,
>
> ctrl+e
>
> which allows you to jump to any time within the file.
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Re: Real Player question

2007-05-16 Thread harry
in addition, the ctrl +shift, with right and left arrows go forward and 
backward ten times faster.
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> Catherine,
>
> Yes one can fast forward and reverse through items in Real Player.  The
> clip or stream must be running.  Holding down, I think it's
> control+right arrow will fast forward and control+left arrow will
> rewind.  If it's not the control key then its' the alt.
>
> The previous and next commands relate to clips or files not the
> currently running file.
>
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> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to fast forward files in Real Player?  With every real
> file I've ever played, the previous clip and next clip options are
> always unavailable.  I assume these are to move forwards and backwards
> through the file.  Is that correct and is it normal that they are
> unavailable?
>
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Re: Real Player question

2007-05-16 Thread Mike Pietruk
Catherine

in rp 10.5

ctrl+rightarrow fast forwards

and

ctrl+left arrow

rewinds.


Also, there is a jump command,

ctrl+e

which allows you to jump to any time within the file.







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RE: Real Player question

2007-05-16 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
Catherine,

Yes one can fast forward and reverse through items in Real Player.  The
clip or stream must be running.  Holding down, I think it's
control+right arrow will fast forward and control+left arrow will
rewind.  If it's not the control key then its' the alt.

The previous and next commands relate to clips or files not the
currently running file. 

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Subject: Real Player question

Hi,

Is it possible to fast forward files in Real Player?  With every real
file I've ever played, the previous clip and next clip options are
always unavailable.  I assume these are to move forwards and backwards
through the file.  Is that correct and is it normal that they are
unavailable?

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Real Player question

2007-05-16 Thread Catherine Turner
Hi,

Is it possible to fast forward files in Real Player?  With every real file 
I've ever played, the previous clip and next clip options are always 
unavailable.  I assume these are to move forwards and backwards through the 
file.  Is that correct and is it normal that they are unavailable?

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Real Player 10 output device

2007-04-24 Thread Bobcat
Is there a way to choose my second sound card for output from RP 10?  My 
default sound card in Windows is used for Jaws speech and sounds.  I want to 
rout Real Player's output to my good card but can't find the option 
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windows media and real player libraries

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Re: We got the Real Player Blues

2006-10-16 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Hi,  Clifford and gang!  Yeah, I've seen that long list, but I'm just 
wanting to know which ones are the most blind accessible.  Any ideas?


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> There's a long list including Ipods that Real Player can transfer files
> to.  In the Tools menu arrow down to Add Player and view the complete
> list
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: We got the Real Player Blues
>
> Hi, gang!  Are we all nuts trying to mess with this REal Player
> business?
> Smile.  I just want to thank Dana and the few other good souls who are
> patiently anwering our questions about this lee-than-accessible
> software.
>
> But while we're on this subject, other than the Movo, I think it is, do
> you all know of other accessible portable devices RealPlayer files can
> be transferred to?
>
> Peace,
> Kathy
>
>
> Kathy Szinnyey
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>
>
>> Yep then I make litle tutorials explainng what I've learned and what I
>
>> still
>> have yet to learn so othersdon't have to go through the same problems.
> If
>> I
>> can teach the skill then I fully understand what i'm doing and at the
> ame
>> time need to know what I need to work on.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:20 AM
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>> That's what I call determination.
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>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 AM
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>>> Cool deal. 'm glad ot worked out for you. It took me 2 years to learn
>
>>> that
>>> with no one's help. TC.
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>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:54 PM
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>>> Hi Sarah,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that information.  It worked.
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>>>> Hello. you need to have your mic mute box unchecked after you check
> what
>>>> you
>>>> here.
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> my
>>>> sound
>>>> editor.  Any help would be appreciated.  thanks,
>>>>
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RE: We got the Real Player Blues

2006-10-16 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
There's a long list including Ipods that Real Player can transfer files
to.  In the Tools menu arrow down to Add Player and view the complete
list 

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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:59 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: We got the Real Player Blues

Hi, gang!  Are we all nuts trying to mess with this REal Player
business? 
Smile.  I just want to thank Dana and the few other good souls who are
patiently anwering our questions about this lee-than-accessible
software.

But while we're on this subject, other than the Movo, I think it is, do
you all know of other accessible portable devices RealPlayer files can
be transferred to?

Peace,
Kathy


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> Yep then I make litle tutorials explainng what I've learned and what I

> still
> have yet to learn so othersdon't have to go through the same problems.
If 
> I
> can teach the skill then I fully understand what i'm doing and at the
ame
> time need to know what I need to work on.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:20 AM
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>
>
> That's what I call determination.
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> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 AM
> Subject: Re: what you hear
>
>
>> Cool deal. 'm glad ot worked out for you. It took me 2 years to learn

>> that
>> with no one's help. TC.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: what you hear
>>
>>
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> Thanks for that information.  It worked.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: what you hear
>>
>>
>>> Hello. you need to have your mic mute box unchecked after you check
what
>>> you
>>> here.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:13 PM
>>> Subject: what you hear
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am new to this list.  I have a question about the what you hear
>>> feature.
>>> I am using a sb audigy sound card and would like to know how I can 
>>> record
>>> both from a mike and also record my speech.  I am using goldwave as
my
>>> sound
>>> editor.  Any help would be appreciated.  thanks,
>>>
>>> Regards, Gary Metzler
>>> Outta Sight Travel, Inc.
>>> 610 NW Marion Ave.
>>> Port St. Lucie FL 34983
>>> Phone: 772-336-8747
>>> send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.outtasighttravel.com
>>> Msn messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Skype name:  garymetz
>>>
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Hi Dana,

Here are the instructions you requested.  Again, thanks to Bob Batchelor for 
directing me to them.  I've copied them from this RP webpage:
http://home.real.com/product/help/rp10v8_ts/en/Screen_Reader_Information.htm

Note, as you will see below, that RP indicates sighted assistance may be 
needed, but I didn't find that to be the case, not in this instance. 
However, RP also indicates that a warning message will appear requiring 
confirmation of the changes, but that didn't happen for me.  There's other 
information about RP on this page that is alternately useful and dismissive. 
Here goes with the message center section:

The Message Center delivers periodic messages of interest to the user.  You 
may customize categories of messages as desired. Currently the Messaging 
system is not very screen-reader accessible and most screen-reader users 
will want to disable the "Check for new messages" feature to prevent the 
pop-ups from interrupting work flow.  Here are the steps to do so (may 
require sighted assistance):
List of 7 items
1. Click View >  Message Center in the RealPlayer menu bar to open the 
Message Center.
2. Click the Options menu on the Message Center.
3. Choose Preferences... to open the Message Center Preferences dialog.
4. Clear  Check for new messages.
5. Click OK.
6. A warning message will appear. Click Yes.
7. Close Message Center.
list end

Rarely, a software update message may appear if an updated version of 
RealPlayer is made available, but no other messages should appear.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Would you send along the instructions on how to close the message center, 
since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might need to do it 
again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Yes.  I'd just like the reassurance of the check.  Interesting that you get 
it through braille.  Instructions concerning your previous message to follow 
when I locate them.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

If you can't be sure if you have normal mode checked by reading the view
menu, from the main application window, just press F7. That should put you
in normal mode, and it should stay that way, unless you press F8 or F9. If
you do, pressing F7 again will return you to normal mode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

When I bring up the view menu, the first item reads "normal mode F7,
checked", and, since I have a braille display, it shows  to the right of
the text. I don't know why you can't get it to read the check mark, if it
is, indeed, checked.

Would you send along the instructions on how to close the
message center, since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might
need to do it again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play,
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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We got the Real Player Blues

2006-10-16 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Hi, gang!  Are we all nuts trying to mess with this REal Player business? 
Smile.  I just want to thank Dana and the few other good souls who are 
patiently anwering our questions about this lee-than-accessible software.

But while we're on this subject, other than the Movo, I think it is, do you 
all know of other accessible portable devices RealPlayer files can be 
transferred to?

Peace,
Kathy


Kathy Szinnyey
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or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: what you hear


> Yep then I make litle tutorials explainng what I've learned and what I 
> still
> have yet to learn so othersdon't have to go through the same problems. If 
> I
> can teach the skill then I fully understand what i'm doing and at the ame
> time need to know what I need to work on.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 5:20 AM
> Subject: Re: what you hear
>
>
> That's what I call determination.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 AM
> Subject: Re: what you hear
>
>
>> Cool deal. 'm glad ot worked out for you. It took me 2 years to learn 
>> that
>> with no one's help. TC.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: what you hear
>>
>>
>> Hi Sarah,
>>
>> Thanks for that information.  It worked.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: what you hear
>>
>>
>>> Hello. you need to have your mic mute box unchecked after you check what
>>> you
>>> here.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Gary Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:13 PM
>>> Subject: what you hear
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am new to this list.  I have a question about the what you hear
>>> feature.
>>> I am using a sb audigy sound card and would like to know how I can 
>>> record
>>> both from a mike and also record my speech.  I am using goldwave as my
>>> sound
>>> editor.  Any help would be appreciated.  thanks,
>>>
>>> Regards, Gary Metzler
>>> Outta Sight Travel, Inc.
>>> 610 NW Marion Ave.
>>> Port St. Lucie FL 34983
>>> Phone: 772-336-8747
>>> send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://www.outtasighttravel.com
>>> Msn messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Skype name:  garymetz
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Dana S. Leslie
No.
- Original Message - 
From: "frank deweese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Did you get my response directly?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

If you can't be sure if you have normal mode checked by reading the view
menu, from the main application window, just press F7. That should put you
in normal mode, and it should stay that way, unless you press F8 or F9. If
you do, pressing F7 again will return you to normal mode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

When I bring up the view menu, the first item reads "normal mode F7,
checked", and, since I have a braille display, it shows  to the right of
the text. I don't know why you can't get it to read the check mark, if it
is, indeed, checked.

Would you send along the instructions on how to close the
message center, since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might
need to do it again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play,
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread frank deweese
Did you get my response directly?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

If you can't be sure if you have normal mode checked by reading the view
menu, from the main application window, just press F7. That should put you
in normal mode, and it should stay that way, unless you press F8 or F9. If
you do, pressing F7 again will return you to normal mode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

When I bring up the view menu, the first item reads "normal mode F7,
checked", and, since I have a braille display, it shows  to the right of
the text. I don't know why you can't get it to read the check mark, if it
is, indeed, checked.

Would you send along the instructions on how to close the
message center, since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might
need to do it again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play,
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Adrian,

If you can't be sure if you have normal mode checked by reading the view 
menu, from the main application window, just press F7. That should put you 
in normal mode, and it should stay that way, unless you press F8 or F9. If 
you do, pressing F7 again will return you to normal mode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Adrian,

When I bring up the view menu, the first item reads "normal mode F7,
checked", and, since I have a braille display, it shows  to the right of
the text. I don't know why you can't get it to read the check mark, if it
is, indeed, checked.

Would you send along the instructions on how to close the
message center, since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might
need to do it again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play,
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Adrian,

When I bring up the view menu, the first item reads "normal mode F7, 
checked", and, since I have a braille display, it shows  to the right of 
the text. I don't know why you can't get it to read the check mark, if it 
is, indeed, checked.

Would you send along the instructions on how to close the
message center, since, as I said, I've forgotten how I did it -- I might 
need to do it again, someday, if it ever comes unstuck.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play,
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Thanks, Dana. Bob Batchelor sent instructions on how to close RP's message 
center, which is a big help. Regarding "normal view," I can't get JAWS to 
indicate whether or not it's checked. I click on it in the view menu and the 
menu closes. I go back to find it isn't checked. Is it another aspect of RP 
that requires sighted assistance?

Again, many thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I 
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the 
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can 
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode 
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or 
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that 
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types 
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted 
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated 
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need 
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your 
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play, 
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing 
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in 
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you 
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some 
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM 
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just 
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will 
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need 
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have 
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Adrian,

I recommend disabling the Realplayer Message Center. Unfortunately, I 
disabled mine so long ago, I don't remember how I did it. But, in the 
Preferences tree view, scroll down to Message center, and see what you can 
find about disabling it.

In the main player window, in the View menu pull-down, make sure Normal mode 
is checked, and everything else is unchecked.

I recommend using RP for ONLY those media types that will not play in WMP or 
Winamp. So, under the Media Types section of preferences, make sure that 
only Real Media types are checked. But, unfortunately, since the media types 
selection list is largely inaccessible, you will either need sighted 
assistance for this, or you will have to go through the complicated 
procedure that Gene asner has outlined elsewhere. (Let me know if you need 
me to go through this for you.)

Finally, I don't recommend using RP's My Library. Any Real Media on your 
hard drive, you can browse to, right click on, and, from there, choose Play, 
burn, or whatever you wish. As for Real Media streams, the Favorites menuing 
system within RP, is quite accessible, and I recommend using it in 
preference to any of the stream selection methods built into RP. Indeed, you 
can copy RP favorites from where they are stored on your hard drive, to some 
more convenient folder, and use them whenever you want to listen to an RM 
stream, rather than starting RP, clicking on Favorites, etc. If you just 
click on the Favorites shortcut, wherever you have moved it to, it will 
automatically start RP with the relevant stream playing. Then, you only need 
ctrl-P and ctrl-S, to pause or stop the stream, respectively.

Well, that ought to be enough to get you started. Let me know if you have 
any specific problems.

Blessed Be,

Dana

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


> Dana,
>
> Although I'm not the one who made the original query, thanks for this
> suggestion. It makes a big difference. You indicate you might have other
> suggestions for using RP. If it isn't too much trouble, I'd like to know
> what they are.  I'm not sure what to make of the remaining RP preference
> choices.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dana S. Leslie
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Real Player Basics
>
> Gary,
>
> It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm operating from memory. 
> If
> some of these suggestions don't work, let me know, and I'll try to figure
> out what I'm overlooking.
>
> When you start Realplayer, the first thing you want to do is maximize the
> window. (The menubar won't read properly until you do.)
>
> Then, go to Tools, Preferences. The dialogue is arrange as a tree view. At
> the top of the tree view are the general preferences. Highlight this 
> branch,
> and tab once. This should take you to an option where you can select 
> Player
> Only (no media browser), to open at start up. I think choosing this option
> will eliminate the apparent web page that comes up when you first start 
> the
> program.
>
> Let me know if these suggestions work. If so, we can look at other
> preference options that make Realplayer easier to access.
>
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Dana,

Although I'm not the one who made the original query, thanks for this 
suggestion. It makes a big difference. You indicate you might have other 
suggestions for using RP. If it isn't too much trouble, I'd like to know 
what they are.  I'm not sure what to make of the remaining RP preference 
choices.

- Original Message -
From: Dana S. Leslie
To: PC audio discussion list.
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Real Player Basics

Gary,

It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm operating from memory. If 
some of these suggestions don't work, let me know, and I'll try to figure 
out what I'm overlooking.

When you start Realplayer, the first thing you want to do is maximize the 
window. (The menubar won't read properly until you do.)

Then, go to Tools, Preferences. The dialogue is arrange as a tree view. At 
the top of the tree view are the general preferences. Highlight this branch, 
and tab once. This should take you to an option where you can select Player 
Only (no media browser), to open at start up. I think choosing this option 
will eliminate the apparent web page that comes up when you first start the 
program.

Let me know if these suggestions work. If so, we can look at other 
preference options that make Realplayer easier to access. 


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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Gary Petraccaro
On reboot, seems to be behaving.
Thanks again.

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  From: Dana S. Leslie 
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  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


  Gary,

  It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm operating from memory. If 
  some of these suggestions don't work, let me know, and I'll try to figure 
  out what I'm overlooking.

  When you start Realplayer, the first thing you want to do is maximize the 
  window. (The menubar won't read properly until you do.)


  Then, go to Tools, Preferences. The dialogue is arrange as a tree view. At 
  the top of the tree view are the general preferences. Highlight this branch, 
  and tab once. This should take you to an option where you can select Player 
  Only (no media browser), to open at start up. I think choosing this option 
  will eliminate the apparent web page that comes up when you first start the 
  program.

  Let me know if these suggestions work. If so, we can look at other 
  preference options that make Realplayer easier to access.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:57 PM
  Subject: Real Player Basics


  >I want to hear a feed for Penn State football.  I can't remember how to 
  >find it or how to use Real Player to help find it.  It's been quite a while 
  >since I last did this and RP has changed.
  > Thanks.
  > Btw.  I can't get any meaningful menus from RP either.  Just what looks 
  > like a web page.  If there's a place to get tutoring, let me know.
  > Thanks, again.
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-16 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks.  Found it.  After picking it, RP seemed to lock up to where I couldn't 
close it and had to listen to an "advertizement."  I can understand why some 
people hate this ap.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dana S. Leslie 
  To: PC audio discussion list. 
  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Real Player Basics


  Gary,

  It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm operating from memory. If 
  some of these suggestions don't work, let me know, and I'll try to figure 
  out what I'm overlooking.

  When you start Realplayer, the first thing you want to do is maximize the 
  window. (The menubar won't read properly until you do.)


  Then, go to Tools, Preferences. The dialogue is arrange as a tree view. At 
  the top of the tree view are the general preferences. Highlight this branch, 
  and tab once. This should take you to an option where you can select Player 
  Only (no media browser), to open at start up. I think choosing this option 
  will eliminate the apparent web page that comes up when you first start the 
  program.

  Let me know if these suggestions work. If so, we can look at other 
  preference options that make Realplayer easier to access.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:57 PM
  Subject: Real Player Basics


  >I want to hear a feed for Penn State football.  I can't remember how to 
  >find it or how to use Real Player to help find it.  It's been quite a while 
  >since I last did this and RP has changed.
  > Thanks.
  > Btw.  I can't get any meaningful menus from RP either.  Just what looks 
  > like a web page.  If there's a place to get tutoring, let me know.
  > Thanks, again.
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Re: Real Player Basics

2006-10-15 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Gary,

It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm operating from memory. If 
some of these suggestions don't work, let me know, and I'll try to figure 
out what I'm overlooking.

When you start Realplayer, the first thing you want to do is maximize the 
window. (The menubar won't read properly until you do.)


Then, go to Tools, Preferences. The dialogue is arrange as a tree view. At 
the top of the tree view are the general preferences. Highlight this branch, 
and tab once. This should take you to an option where you can select Player 
Only (no media browser), to open at start up. I think choosing this option 
will eliminate the apparent web page that comes up when you first start the 
program.

Let me know if these suggestions work. If so, we can look at other 
preference options that make Realplayer easier to access.
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:57 PM
Subject: Real Player Basics


>I want to hear a feed for Penn State football.  I can't remember how to 
>find it or how to use Real Player to help find it.  It's been quite a while 
>since I last did this and RP has changed.
> Thanks.
> Btw.  I can't get any meaningful menus from RP either.  Just what looks 
> like a web page.  If there's a place to get tutoring, let me know.
> Thanks, again.
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Real Player Basics

2006-10-14 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I want to hear a feed for Penn State football.  I can't remember how to find it 
or how to use Real Player to help find it.  It's been quite a while since I 
last did this and RP has changed.
Thanks.
Btw.  I can't get any meaningful menus from RP either.  Just what looks like a 
web page.  If there's a place to get tutoring, let me know.
Thanks, again.
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RE: real player oddity

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Grady
Well, according to MLB, they would prefer you to use Windows Media, so even
if you call them or write them I doubt you'll get any help.  I can only say
that I bought the TV package for a month but I haven't seen that problem
yet.  Try clearing the respective player's caches and make sure that only 1
player is the default player for Windows audio/video.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:21 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: real player oddity

hi tim, erm you've lost me. i wasn't blaming anyone for anything. in fact, i
actually prefer using realplayer, hence my frustration with the problem i
have. are you saying it's a deliberate ploy by mlb.tv to scramble the feed
when people try and use realplayer to play the feed?
i've no idea if it's an mlb.tv problem, or a realplayer problem as i don't
know anyone who has experienced it. i just want to know if anyone knows why
realplayer seems to be trying to play two copies of the same feed out of
sync, making it unlistenable too.
kevin (lord L)
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notice." - will durant
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To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: real player oddity


> Blaming real networks for a policy that MLB has adopted is not the thing
to
> do.  I asked the MLB why it was so insistent about making their content
> unplayable by Real.  It seems to be a battle between Microsoft and real.
> It's funny, but most of the techs I talked to at mlb.com preferred it when
> they could access content with Realplayer.  It seems that Realplayer is
more
> accessible to sighted people than Windows Media.
>
>
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>
> hi all, this one's got me totally stumped!  it relates to mlb.tv. i guess
a
> few people do the same as i do and when the mlb.tv media player opens, i
go
> to properties, copy the URL of the feed, copy this into realplayer. this
way
> you can use the seek command among other things when listening to
archives.
> now for some reason recently, using this method, i've been unable to
listen
> to the stream using realplayer. basically i get the feed ok, but it sounds
> like realplayer is playing two copies of the same feed about a second
apart.
> i've switched to using window media player to do the same job, but i can't
> get it's seek command to do small jumps! i've tried all i can think of to
> get realplayer to play the feed properly, but nothing seems to work. what
am
> i missing? or is this normal for realplayer these days! if someone can
help
> i can send a sample of the type of nonsense realplayer is coming up with.
by
> the way, this doesn't happen with any other audio feed i use, but this is
> the only live video feed i use.
> kevin (lord L)
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Re: real player oddity

2006-10-04 Thread kevin and emma
hi tim, erm you've lost me. i wasn't blaming anyone for anything. in fact, i
actually prefer using realplayer, hence my frustration with the problem i
have. are you saying it's a deliberate ploy by mlb.tv to scramble the feed
when people try and use realplayer to play the feed?
i've no idea if it's an mlb.tv problem, or a realplayer problem as i don't
know anyone who has experienced it. i just want to know if anyone knows why
realplayer seems to be trying to play two copies of the same feed out of
sync, making it unlistenable too.
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> Blaming real networks for a policy that MLB has adopted is not the thing
to
> do.  I asked the MLB why it was so insistent about making their content
> unplayable by Real.  It seems to be a battle between Microsoft and real.
> It's funny, but most of the techs I talked to at mlb.com preferred it when
> they could access content with Realplayer.  It seems that Realplayer is
more
> accessible to sighted people than Windows Media.
>
>
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> Subject: real player oddity
>
> hi all, this one's got me totally stumped!  it relates to mlb.tv. i guess
a
> few people do the same as i do and when the mlb.tv media player opens, i
go
> to properties, copy the URL of the feed, copy this into realplayer. this
way
> you can use the seek command among other things when listening to
archives.
> now for some reason recently, using this method, i've been unable to
listen
> to the stream using realplayer. basically i get the feed ok, but it sounds
> like realplayer is playing two copies of the same feed about a second
apart.
> i've switched to using window media player to do the same job, but i can't
> get it's seek command to do small jumps! i've tried all i can think of to
> get realplayer to play the feed properly, but nothing seems to work. what
am
> i missing? or is this normal for realplayer these days! if someone can
help
> i can send a sample of the type of nonsense realplayer is coming up with.
by
> the way, this doesn't happen with any other audio feed i use, but this is
> the only live video feed i use.
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RE: real player oddity

2006-10-04 Thread Tim Grady
Blaming real networks for a policy that MLB has adopted is not the thing to
do.  I asked the MLB why it was so insistent about making their content
unplayable by Real.  It seems to be a battle between Microsoft and real.
It's funny, but most of the techs I talked to at mlb.com preferred it when
they could access content with Realplayer.  It seems that Realplayer is more
accessible to sighted people than Windows Media.


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Subject: real player oddity

hi all, this one's got me totally stumped!  it relates to mlb.tv. i guess a
few people do the same as i do and when the mlb.tv media player opens, i go
to properties, copy the URL of the feed, copy this into realplayer. this way
you can use the seek command among other things when listening to archives.
now for some reason recently, using this method, i've been unable to listen
to the stream using realplayer. basically i get the feed ok, but it sounds
like realplayer is playing two copies of the same feed about a second apart.
i've switched to using window media player to do the same job, but i can't
get it's seek command to do small jumps! i've tried all i can think of to
get realplayer to play the feed properly, but nothing seems to work. what am
i missing? or is this normal for realplayer these days! if someone can help
i can send a sample of the type of nonsense realplayer is coming up with. by
the way, this doesn't happen with any other audio feed i use, but this is
the only live video feed i use.
kevin (lord L)
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real player oddity

2006-10-04 Thread kevin and emma
hi all, this one's got me totally stumped!  it relates to mlb.tv. i guess a
few people do the same as i do and when the mlb.tv media player opens, i go
to properties, copy the URL of the feed, copy this into realplayer. this way
you can use the seek command among other things when listening to archives.
now for some reason recently, using this method, i've been unable to listen
to the stream using realplayer. basically i get the feed ok, but it sounds
like realplayer is playing two copies of the same feed about a second apart.
i've switched to using window media player to do the same job, but i can't
get it's seek command to do small jumps! i've tried all i can think of to
get realplayer to play the feed properly, but nothing seems to work. what am
i missing? or is this normal for realplayer these days! if someone can help
i can send a sample of the type of nonsense realplayer is coming up with. by
the way, this doesn't happen with any other audio feed i use, but this is
the only live video feed i use.
kevin (lord L)
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Re: real player volume control

2006-08-29 Thread Bruce Toews
I would concur.  have Winamp play the file types it supports, but there 
are a few which it does not.

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Gary Wood wrote:

> In my personal opinion, Winamp is the best!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: real player volume control
>
>
>> Since I started using Real Player in 2002, there has been no way to
>> independently control the volume. For me personally, this has not been an
>> issue as I have an external synthesizer, and I would rather not use Real
>> Alternative because of what I've heard about it not working with all
>> streams, but as with so many things int he comptuer world, it's largely a
>> matter of personal preference and individual needs.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>>
>>> That's what I'd like to know.  I used to use Real Player with no problem
>>> in
>>> that area, but with later versions, it seems impossible!  That's why I
>>> use
>>> Real Alternative!
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Matthew Menard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: real player volume control
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume
>>>> control does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down
>>>> the
>>>> real player volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume
>>>> as well. Thanks,
>>>>
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Re: real player volume control

2006-08-29 Thread Gary Wood
In my personal opinion, Winamp is the best!
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: real player volume control


> Since I started using Real Player in 2002, there has been no way to
> independently control the volume. For me personally, this has not been an
> issue as I have an external synthesizer, and I would rather not use Real
> Alternative because of what I've heard about it not working with all
> streams, but as with so many things int he comptuer world, it's largely a
> matter of personal preference and individual needs.
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>
>> That's what I'd like to know.  I used to use Real Player with no problem 
>> in
>> that area, but with later versions, it seems impossible!  That's why I 
>> use
>> Real Alternative!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Matthew Menard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:34 PM
>> Subject: real player volume control
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume
>>> control does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down 
>>> the
>>> real player volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume
>>> as well. Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mat Menard.
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Re: real player volume control

2006-08-29 Thread Bruce Toews
Since I started using Real Player in 2002, there has been no way to 
independently control the volume. For me personally, this has not been an 
issue as I have an external synthesizer, and I would rather not use Real 
Alternative because of what I've heard about it not working with all 
streams, but as with so many things int he comptuer world, it's largely a 
matter of personal preference and individual needs.

Bruce

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Gary Wood wrote:

> That's what I'd like to know.  I used to use Real Player with no problem in
> that area, but with later versions, it seems impossible!  That's why I use
> Real Alternative!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Menard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:34 PM
> Subject: real player volume control
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume
>> control does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down the
>> real player volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume
>> as well. Thanks,
>>
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Re: real player volume control

2006-08-28 Thread Gary Wood
That's what I'd like to know.  I used to use Real Player with no problem in 
that area, but with later versions, it seems impossible!  That's why I use 
Real Alternative!
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: real player volume control


> Hi,
> Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume 
> control does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down the 
> real player volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume 
> as well. Thanks,
>
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Re: real player volume control

2006-08-27 Thread Arthur Barney
Hi Matthew,
no there isn't.
Arthur Barney
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Subject: real player volume control


> Hi,
> Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume 
> control does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down the 
> real player volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume 
> as well. Thanks,
>
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real player volume control

2006-08-27 Thread Matthew Menard
Hi,
Does anyone know if there is a way to make it so the real player volume control 
does not control the entire system volume? I want to turn down the real player 
volume without turning down the rest of the computers volume as well. Thanks,
 
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RE: RUNTIME ERROR IN REAL PLAYER

2006-08-19 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

I don't know what the error means, or how to fix it, but I wonder if the NFL
audio is the only stream you have trouble playing with Real Player?  If so,
then I'd be calling the NFL tech support line.  I have the NFL subscription
and have no problems playing the stream.  You might get a new copy of Real
Player from the site.

Hope this is helpful.

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RUNTIME ERROR IN REAL PLAYER

2006-08-19 Thread Scott Blanks
Hey all,

I'm subscribed to the National Football League Field Pass, which allows you 
to hear all NFL games. Whenever I attempt to begin playing a stream using 
Real Player, I receive the following message.

A Runtime Error has occurred.
Do you wish to Debug?
Line: 10
Error: 'omni_vp' is undefined

The error happens whenever any broadcast stream begins. About half the time, 
the stream will time out soon after, forcing me to restart the stream. Any 
ideas on what might be causing this? Is there anything I can do, or should I 
contact the NFL tech support folks?

Thanks,
Scott



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Re: another real player question

2006-08-10 Thread Robin G. Plitt
find an mp3 file.
right click on the file and select Open With
choose the program you want to play the file
look for a check box which says "always Use This Program"  and make sure it 
is checked

Click OK

That will make the program you selected the default player

Robin
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Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: another real player question


> Hello listers,
> The preferences window is a bit confusing to me.  I am trying to keep real 
> player from playing my mp3's.  How do I do this?  Thanks for any help.
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Re: another real player question

2006-08-09 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Michael,

Avoid the Realplayer file types selection window, altogether. Highlight an 
MP3 file, choose Open With from the Files menu or the context menu, select 
the program you want to open MP3s, and make sure the "always use this 
program" check box is checked.

Blessed Be,

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> Hello listers,
> The preferences window is a bit confusing to me.  I am trying to keep real 
> player from playing my mp3's.  How do I do this?  Thanks for any help.
> Michael
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another real player question

2006-08-09 Thread Michael Amaro
Hello listers,
The preferences window is a bit confusing to me.  I am trying to keep real 
player from playing my mp3's.  How do I do this?  Thanks for any help.
Michael
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real player 10

2006-08-09 Thread Michael Amaro
Hello listers,
I just downloaded the real player 10.  How ever it won't let me access the 
menues.  Every time I try it plays these dum advertisements. Can some one 
please help?
Thanks Michael
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RE: real player g2

2006-07-21 Thread Robert Batchelor

http://www.countdown.org/realplayer/getplayer.htm

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Could anyone send me the direct link for downloading real player g2?
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real player g2

2006-07-21 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi listers

Could anyone send me the direct link for downloading real player g2?
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RE: questions about real player 10.5

2006-06-28 Thread Ford Blackwell
Go into the Tools Menu and hit check for updates.  One of the updates
you can select is the complete Help File and and second one is the Help
file in accessible format. 

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Can't find a  help list in the prog;  Does anyone have a  help list
including such things as; ctrl t  to go ahead one song ETC.  txs for any
assistance.  Ken b whoever comes to god must believe that he is and that
he is a rewarder of those that dilagently seek him! 
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questions about real player 10.5

2006-06-28 Thread Ken Buxton
Can't find a  help list in the prog;  Does anyone have a  help list including 
such things as; ctrl t  to go ahead one song ETC.  txs for any assistance.  Ken 
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Changing the Output Sound Card in the Real Player

2006-04-11 Thread Brian Hansen
Does the latest version of the Real Player allow one to change the output sound 
card one is using?  I've successfully changed the sound card I use in both 
Winamp and Windows Media Player, but I can't find a parameter in the Real 
Player to change the setting.  I'm trying to direct all of my music, podcasts, 
and other listening/recording through my Card Deluxe card, and all of my 
Windows sounds, as well as JFW through my Creative Audio card.  Any help would 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Blessings,

Brian
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RE: real player not focussing with jaws 7.0

2006-03-28 Thread Ford Blackwell
I've always had problems with the Media Browser.  It's sort of a pain.
If changing your start page didn't help, I'm not sure what to suggest.
Real technical support is pretty helpful though.



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Hello

That didn't help; it stil shows the webpage when I open, even though the
option is set for my library. Btw where is the "meedia browser"? I have
it detached but it stil doesn't show in a seperate window. And when I'm
the burn window it loses focus on the tracks listview.

thanks,
Tyler
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> Go into Tools and then to Preferences and set your opening page in the
> first tab.  You can set it to CD Burning/Transfer or to the music
store.
> I think that will help.
>
>
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using jaws 7.0. I installed real player, and I found out that
iether
> the focus was lost or a webpage like "real guide" popped up when I
> opened the program. I was trying this program out for burning cds, and
> I'd used it before with jfw 5.1. I stil have that version of jfw on
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Re: real player not focussing with jaws 7.0

2006-03-27 Thread Tyler Wood
Hello

That didn't help; it stil shows the webpage when I open, even though the 
option is set for my library. Btw where is the "meedia browser"? I have it 
detached but it stil doesn't show in a seperate window. And when I'm the 
burn window it loses focus on the tracks listview.

thanks,
Tyler
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> Go into Tools and then to Preferences and set your opening page in the
> first tab.  You can set it to CD Burning/Transfer or to the music store.
> I think that will help.
>
>
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using jaws 7.0. I installed real player, and I found out that iether
> the focus was lost or a webpage like "real guide" popped up when I
> opened the program. I was trying this program out for burning cds, and
> I'd used it before with jfw 5.1. I stil have that version of jfw on this
> computer and I tried using that, too. It stil didn't resolve the issue.
> Do I need scripts for this? Can anyone give me suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler
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RE: real player not focussing with jaws 7.0

2006-03-27 Thread Ford Blackwell
Go into Tools and then to Preferences and set your opening page in the
first tab.  You can set it to CD Burning/Transfer or to the music store.
I think that will help.

 

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Subject: real player not focussing with jaws 7.0

Hi,

I'm using jaws 7.0. I installed real player, and I found out that iether
the focus was lost or a webpage like "real guide" popped up when I
opened the program. I was trying this program out for burning cds, and
I'd used it before with jfw 5.1. I stil have that version of jfw on this
computer and I tried using that, too. It stil didn't resolve the issue.
Do I need scripts for this? Can anyone give me suggestions?

Thanks,
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real player not focussing with jaws 7.0

2006-03-27 Thread Tyler Wood
Hi,

I'm using jaws 7.0. I installed real player, and I found out that iether the 
focus was lost or a webpage like "real guide" popped up when I opened the 
program. I was trying this program out for burning cds, and I'd used it before 
with jfw 5.1. I stil have that version of jfw on this computer and I tried 
using that, too. It stil didn't resolve the issue. Do I need scripts for this? 
Can anyone give me suggestions?

Thanks,
Tyler
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RE: setting in real player 10

2006-03-27 Thread Ford Blackwell
Go to Tools then Preferences.  The first tab lets you set the opening
screen. 

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I'm using real player 10, the free version. What setting can I change so
that every time I open up real player, the real player browser doesn't
open?
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setting in real player 10

2006-03-26 Thread Tim Cumings
I'm using real player 10, the free version. What setting can I change so that 
every time I open up real player, the real player browser doesn't open?
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NWA608 and Real Player

2006-03-22 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

The Sony NWA608 MP3 player is supposed to interact with Real Player.  Is anyone 
able to varify whether this is indeed the case?

Thanks gang.
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RE: Burning Real Music Store Music to CD using Real Player

2006-03-10 Thread Ford Blackwell
There are two or three ways to do this.  They are reasonably easy.  One
way would be to creat a play list in My Library and then burn the list.
Perhaps the easiest way is to locate the tracks you want to burn,
generally located in the My Music folder in My Documents, right click
them or sometimes you have to use control+F10 and arrow down to the Burn
in Real Player item.  Hit enter on this and it will place the track or
tracks that you have selected in the burn queue in the Real Player Burn
and transfer page.

>From there tab down to the first combo box and select the device you
want to use, i.e. your cd burner or an .mp3 player.  Tab down again to
the second combo box and select the typ of disk you are making, i.e.
audio, .mp3 or whatever.

Tab down to burn and hit the enter key.  Do not try to trigger with the
space bar as it will play the last selection you played in Real Plyer.

The tab control immediately before the Burn button allows you to select
certain options such as burn speed, insertion of a space between tracks
and normalization if you have the premium player.

Once the cd is burned you can, if enabled, tab down to other options and
burn another copy or creat jewel case inserts.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Clifford

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Hello List!

I have a Real Music Store subscription and have purchased songs through
it.  I have the plus player and they say I can burn my purchases to CD.
I have tried, but find it difficult getting to the various commands or
shortcuts.  If possible, could some out there, who has used this product
to burn CD's, give me the steps, using JAWS, to best record my music to
disc.  

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Burning Real Music Store Music to CD using Real Player

2006-03-09 Thread Jardata Mail Services
Hello List!

I have a Real Music Store subscription and have purchased songs through it.  I 
have the plus player and they say I can burn my purchases to CD.  I have tried, 
but find it difficult getting to the various commands or shortcuts.  If 
possible, could some out there, who has used this product to burn CD's, give me 
the steps, using JAWS, to best record my music to disc.  

thanks very much for your help.
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Re: Selecting sound card in Real Player

2006-01-25 Thread Dana S. Leslie
NO. I've complained repeatedly to Real about this deficiency. All complaints 
enter their corporate blackhole, and I never hear anything further, not even 
if the issue is planned to be addressed at some indefinite time in the 
future.

Blessed Be,

Dana
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> Hello, is there a way to select which sound card you want Real Player's
> output to go through? I selected my onboard sound card to use as the
> primary, but that was to get Jaws to go through there. In almost every
> program, I've been able to specify that I want the output to use the Sound
> Blaster card, but I can't find it in Real Player. I used to have it 
> exactly
> the way I wanted it. Everything defaulted to the SB card, but when Jaws
> loaded up on startup, it went to the onboard card. When I unloaded it and
> loaded it back up in the same boot session, it picked up the SB card, so I
> could have the best of both worlds. I installed Sound Forge 8, and that 
> all
> went away, and I can't figure out how we did that setting in the BIOS
> before.
> Thanks a lot for any help.
> Matthew
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problem with real player 1

2006-01-15 Thread doug leavens
I downloaded a .pls file from a website.  When I went to play it, real player 1 
said it couldn't play it (Go Figure).
I have .pls files selected in winap file associations.
Is there a fix for this problem?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Real Player Question

2005-12-28 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Jim,

 Highlight a file of a type you DON'T want played by Realplayer. Click on 
Files, and on Open With. Select the player you DO want to play files of that 
type, AND be sure to check the checkbox that says "always use this program 
to open files of this type."

Since, I gather, Realplayer has already made itself your default player, 
you'll have to do this, separately, for each files type currently played by 
Realplayer that you want played by some other player. But that will probably 
be easier than making some other player your default player, and, then, 
trying to get Realplayer to play all and only the file types that only it 
can play.

Good luck.

Blessed Be,

Dana
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> Hi there,
> Here's a quick question.
> I have both Windows Media and Real Player installed; however, I need to 
> find a way of changing Real Player for it NOT to be my default player.
> I can not, for the life of me, remember how to do that or where to go.
> Can someone help me with some instructions?  Thanks.
> Jim
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Real Player Question

2005-12-28 Thread Jim Portillo
Hi there,
Here's a quick question.
I have both Windows Media and Real Player installed; however, I need to find a 
way of changing Real Player for it NOT to be my default player.
I can not, for the life of me, remember how to do that or where to go.
Can someone help me with some instructions?  Thanks.
Jim
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-17 Thread Larry Higgins
Tara won't work with the latest incarnations of 
the .ra format will it? I thought it stopped 
working after Real player 8, maybe even earlier.

At 02:44 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote:
>Try Tara's Plugin and you won't regret it.
>
>On 12/14/05, Dana S. Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As far as I have been able to determine by 
> experiment, it really doesn't. It
> > simply allows Winamp's user interface to be used as the user interface to
> > RealPlayer. But it's still RealPlayer and its 
> drivers that are doing all the
> > real work.
> >
> >
> >
> > Blessed Be,
> >
> > Dana
> > that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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> > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list." 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: alternative to real player
> >
> >
> > You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
> > be played through Winamp instead of Reel.
> >
> > On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
> > >
> > > Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> > > wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> > > perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
> > >
> > > At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> > > *supposed*
> > > >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well,
> > > >the
> > > >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
> > > set
> > > >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> > > card.
> > > >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> > > >alternative is just as limited as the original?
> > > >
> > > >Blessed Be,
> > > >
> > > >Dana
> > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > > >
> > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Skype: dsleslie
> > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
> > > >Subject: alternative to real player
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media
> > > > > if
> > > I
> > > > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> > > possible.
> > > > > I found a nice alternative in a program 
> called real alternative.  When
> > > you
> > > > > lode it the player comes up as "media 
> player classic" but it will play
> > > all
> > > > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > > > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > > > > go here for more information about the program:
> > > > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> > > > > hope that helps
> > > > > Denny
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-15 Thread Gary Wood
I guess that choice is good!
- Original Message - 
From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


John,

Explain why windows meedia player should be, "discontinued". I have never
had a problem with the program and like it a lot, same with real player and
winamp (I have all 3).

Tyler
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Hi John!  I think that Winamp is the best!
- Original Message - 
From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
> stated before, I've heard some really excellent
> real quality streaming which beats the pants off
> anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.
>
> At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
> >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that
> >facility.
> >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
> >accessibility issue).
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
> >problems with Real Player at all.
> >
> >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> > >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of
> > >making
> > >things accessible for us!
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand
> for
> > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our
> software.'
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> > >point of view but its also important if you say
> > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> > >connected to another sound device which it is in
> > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> > >
> > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >Ian,
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained
> > > >about
> > > >this
> > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why
> this
> > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using
> adaptive
> > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no
> > > >indication
> of
> > > >

Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-15 Thread Tyler Wood
John,

Explain why windows meedia player should be, "discontinued". I have never 
had a problem with the program and like it a lot, same with real player and 
winamp (I have all 3).

Tyler
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Hi John!  I think that Winamp is the best!
- Original Message - 
From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
> stated before, I've heard some really excellent
> real quality streaming which beats the pants off
> anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.
>
> At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
> >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that
> >facility.
> >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
> >accessibility issue).
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
> >problems with Real Player at all.
> >
> >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> > >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of
> > >making
> > >things accessible for us!
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand
> for
> > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our
> software.'
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> > >point of view but its also important if you say
> > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> > >connected to another sound device which it is in
> > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> > >
> > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >Ian,
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained
> > > >about
> > > >this
> > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why
> this
> > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using
> adaptive
> > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no
> > > >indication
> of
> > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor
> of
> > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge oth

Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-15 Thread Tyler Wood
Brent,

Look in the settings for real player. It will ask you if you want real 
player to play all files; you probably selected that. And I have had real 
player, and it never started up with windows. I like there product.

Tyler
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


First of all, JAWS has nothing to do with it. This is not a screen reader
issue. Second, while I'm not saying the person who has been having these
volume issues with Real Player is wrong, I will say that I've never
experienced a problem remotely like that, and I've been using Real Player
for about four years now in Windows. Of all of my players, Real Player has
been the least buggy, has messed up my file associations the least, and
has been the most stable. Close behind, Windows Mediocre Player, and a
distant third, my favorite player, Winamp.

Bruce

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Gary Wood wrote:

> It sounds like a bad deal, if you use Real Player with Jaws!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
> Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of 
> speech
> way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
> I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>
> Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>
> At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>> I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
>> *supposed*
>> to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, 
>> the
>> control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
>> set
>> it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
>> card.
>> So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>> alternative is just as limited as the original?
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: dsleslie
>> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>> Subject: alternative to real player
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
>>> I
>>> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
>>> possible.
>>> I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
>>> you
>>> lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
>>> all
>>> the real streams. Go here for the program:
>>> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
>>> go here for more information about the program:
>>> http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
>>> hope that helps
>>> Denny
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
Yes i have the same problems.
But not with all stations.
THough i have annother  problem.
Evry time (or very often) when i colse the progam i get an messag from the 
doctor whatson asking me to send an error report to microsoft.
I have tried iuninstalling and re-installing the program.
Removing all directories but nothing seems to help.
Removing spysware evrything.
ITs hopeless.
/Anders.

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From: "Marijan Janev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


> Yes, Denny, Real alternative is a good piece of software. But I have a 
> problem with it. Every time I add a live stream to the favorites it works 
> normaly, but after closing and opening the program again, none of them 
> work as it should and get :real media error". I don't know what's going 
> on. Does anybody have the same thing?
> Thanks!
> Marijan
> - Original Message - 
> From: Denny Daughters
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: alternative to real player
>
>
> Hi guys,
>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I 
> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible. 
> I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you 
> lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all 
> the real streams. Go here for the program:
> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> go here for more information about the program:
> http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> hope that helps
> Denny
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-15 Thread Bruce Toews
First of all, JAWS has nothing to do with it. This is not a screen reader 
issue. Second, while I'm not saying the person who has been having these 
volume issues with Real Player is wrong, I will say that I've never 
experienced a problem remotely like that, and I've been using Real Player 
for about four years now in Windows. Of all of my players, Real Player has 
been the least buggy, has messed up my file associations the least, and 
has been the most stable. Close behind, Windows Mediocre Player, and a 
distant third, my favorite player, Winamp.


Bruce

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Gary Wood wrote:


It sounds like a bad deal, if you use Real Player with Jaws!
- Original Message -
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of speech
way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.

- Original Message -
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.

Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
perhaps Real Alternative isn't.

At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:

I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
*supposed*
to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
set
it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
card.
So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
alternative is just as limited as the original?

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message -
From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: alternative to real player



Hi guys,
   I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
I
have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
possible.
I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
you
lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
all
the real streams. Go here for the program:
http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
go here for more information about the program:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
hope that helps
Denny
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Gary Wood
It sounds like a bad deal, if you use Real Player with Jaws!
- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of speech
way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.

Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
perhaps Real Alternative isn't.

At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
>*supposed*
>to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
>control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
>set
>it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
>card.
>So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>alternative is just as limited as the original?
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>Subject: alternative to real player
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
> > I
> > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> > possible.
> > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
> > you
> > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
> > all
> > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > go here for more information about the program:
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Gary Wood
Hi John!  I think that Winamp is the best!
- Original Message - 
From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
> stated before, I've heard some really excellent
> real quality streaming which beats the pants off
> anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.
>
> At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
> >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that 
> >facility.
> >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
> >accessibility issue).
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
> >problems with Real Player at all.
> >
> >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> > >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of 
> > >making
> > >things accessible for us!
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand
> for
> > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our
> software.'
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> > >point of view but its also important if you say
> > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> > >connected to another sound device which it is in
> > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> > >
> > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >Ian,
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained 
> > > >about
> > > >this
> > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why
> this
> > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using
> adaptive
> > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no 
> > > >indication
> of
> > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor
> of
> > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Blessed Be,
> > > >
> > > >Dana
> > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > > >
> > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Denny!  I have Real Alternative.  I like it!  But I also use Winamp most 
of the time!
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: alternative to real player


> Hi guys,
>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I 
> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible. 
> I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you 
> lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all 
> the real streams. Go here for the program:
> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> go here for more information about the program:
> http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> hope that helps
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Brent Harding
Ah, well on my old machine, when I would hit a real stream, the volume of 
jaws would go way down to the point one couldn't hardly hear it. Just have 
to be careful to not let it associate with all types, but that volume thing 
is why I now stay away from real, most stations use media player or winamp 
anyways.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


Where does all this come from? While my favorite program for media is
Winamp, the fact is that the program that's given me the least amount of
takeover trouble over the past four years is Real Player.

Bruce

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Brent Harding wrote:

> Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of 
> speech
> way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
> I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>
> Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>
> At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>> I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
>> *supposed*
>> to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, 
>> the
>> control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
>> set
>> it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
>> card.
>> So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>> alternative is just as limited as the original?
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: dsleslie
>> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>> Subject: alternative to real player
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
>>> I
>>> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
>>> possible.
>>> I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
>>> you
>>> lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
>>> all
>>> the real streams. Go here for the program:
>>> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
>>> go here for more information about the program:
>>> http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
>>> hope that helps
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Ian Wells
well of course, I don't have that problem as I 
don't use software speech and I certainly 
wouldn't recommend anyone else use it either if 
they can avoid it, you just don't have any idea 
how much the performance of a computer system is 
increased without that but each to their own of course.

At 02:12 16/12/2005 +1100, Brent Harding said:
>Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of speech
>way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
>Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
>I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>
>Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
>wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
>perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>
>At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> >*supposed*
> >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
> >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
> >set
> >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> >card.
> >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> >alternative is just as limited as the original?
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
> >Subject: alternative to real player
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
> > > I
> > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> > > possible.
> > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
> > > you
> > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
> > > all
> > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > > go here for more information about the program:
> > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> > > hope that helps
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Brent Harding
Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of speech 
way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.

Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
perhaps Real Alternative isn't.

At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is 
>*supposed*
>to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
>control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I 
>set
>it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default 
>card.
>So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>alternative is just as limited as the original?
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>Subject: alternative to real player
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if 
> > I
> > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as 
> > possible.
> > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When 
> > you
> > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play 
> > all
> > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > go here for more information about the program:
> > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Bruce Toews
Where does all this come from? While my favorite program for media is 
Winamp, the fact is that the program that's given me the least amount of 
takeover trouble over the past four years is Real Player.


Bruce

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Brent Harding wrote:


Real just takes over the system too much, it will yank the volume of speech
way down, and wants to play everything and start up with the system.

- Original Message -
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.

Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
perhaps Real Alternative isn't.

At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:

I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
*supposed*
to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
set
it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
card.
So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
alternative is just as limited as the original?

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: alternative to real player



Hi guys,
   I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if
I
have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
possible.
I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
you
lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
all
the real streams. Go here for the program:
http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
go here for more information about the program:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
hope that helps
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Ian Wells
Its not a music station.

At 16:07 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>Ian,
>
>I listened to the stream from Sydney that you touted as an example of really
>high quality streaming. Nothing wrong with it, at all, but nothing special,
>either, as far as I could tell. Of course, when I listened, it was an all
>talk show; I didn't hear any music web casting.
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:35 PM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
>stated before, I've heard some really excellent
>real quality streaming which beats the pants off
>anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.
>
>At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
> >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility.
> >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
> >accessibility issue).
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
> >problems with Real Player at all.
> >
> >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> > >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
> > >things accessible for us!
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand
> > >for
> > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our
> > >software.'
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> > >point of view but its also important if you say
> > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> > >connected to another sound device which it is in
> > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> > >
> > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >Ian,
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about
> > > >this
> > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why
> > > >this
> > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using
> > > >adaptive
> > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication
> > > >of
> > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favo

Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Marty Rimpau
Hi, all, I don't think that the tara plugin will work with real one or
anything above that, plus, its' development has ceased more than two
years ago, so the tara plugin may not work with something other than
real 8 basic, way back there.  
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:44:43 -0800, John Moore wrote:

>Try Tara's Plugin and you won't regret it.
>
>On 12/14/05, Dana S. Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As far as I have been able to determine by experiment, it really doesn't. It
>> simply allows Winamp's user interface to be used as the user interface to
>> RealPlayer. But it's still RealPlayer and its drivers that are doing all the
>> real work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Blessed Be,
>>
>> Dana
>> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>>
>> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype: dsleslie
>> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>>
>>
>> You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
>> be played through Winamp instead of Reel.
>>
>> On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>> >
>> > Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
>> > wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
>> > perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>> >
>> > At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>> > >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
>> > *supposed*
>> > >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well,
>> > >the
>> > >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
>> > set
>> > >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
>> > card.
>> > >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>> > >alternative is just as limited as the original?
>> > >
>> > >Blessed Be,
>> > >
>> > >Dana
>> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>> > >
>> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >Skype: dsleslie
>> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>> > >- Original Message -
>> > >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>> > >Subject: alternative to real player
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Hi guys,
>> > > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media
>> > > > if
>> > I
>> > > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
>> > possible.
>> > > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
>> > you
>> > > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
>> > all
>> > > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
>> > > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
>> > > > go here for more information about the program:
>> > > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
>> > > > hope that helps
>> > > > Denny
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Dana S. Leslie
I did, and I did.
- Original Message - 
From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


Try Tara's Plugin and you won't regret it.

On 12/14/05, Dana S. Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I have been able to determine by experiment, it really doesn't. 
> It
> simply allows Winamp's user interface to be used as the user interface to
> RealPlayer. But it's still RealPlayer and its drivers that are doing all 
> the
> real work.
>
>
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
> You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
> be played through Winamp instead of Reel.
>
> On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your 
> > post.
> >
> > Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> > wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> > perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
> >
> > At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> > *supposed*
> > >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well,
> > >the
> > >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when 
> > >I
> > set
> > >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> > card.
> > >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> > >alternative is just as limited as the original?
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
> > >Subject: alternative to real player
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media
> > > > if
> > I
> > > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> > possible.
> > > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative. 
> > > > When
> > you
> > > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will 
> > > > play
> > all
> > > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > > > go here for more information about the program:
> > > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> > > > hope that helps
> > > > Denny
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Ian,

I listened to the stream from Sydney that you touted as an example of really 
high quality streaming. Nothing wrong with it, at all, but nothing special, 
either, as far as I could tell. Of course, when I listened, it was an all 
talk show; I didn't hear any music web casting.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
stated before, I've heard some really excellent
real quality streaming which beats the pants off
anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.

At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
>output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility.
>But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
>accessibility issue).
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
>problems with Real Player at all.
>
>At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
> >things accessible for us!
> >----- Original Message -
> >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand 
> >for
> >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our 
> >software.'
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> >point of view but its also important if you say
> >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> >connected to another sound device which it is in
> >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> >
> >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > >Ian,
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about
> > >this
> > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why 
> > >this
> > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using 
> > >adaptive
> > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication 
> > >of
> > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > >
> > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor 
> > >of
> > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> > >
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >Fr

Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Denny Daughters
Hi Marty and list,
It's been a while since I installed real alternative.  I don't remember 
having to tell it to specificly play .rm files.  I haven't experimented with 
live streams with it yet either.  I was just tired of real player in the 
system tray and it always used to ask me if I wanted to install the latest 
version? Why when I hardly ever use the player.  Later.
Denny 



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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread John Moore
Try Tara's Plugin and you won't regret it.

On 12/14/05, Dana S. Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I have been able to determine by experiment, it really doesn't. It
> simply allows Winamp's user interface to be used as the user interface to
> RealPlayer. But it's still RealPlayer and its drivers that are doing all the
> real work.
>
>
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
> that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
> D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype: dsleslie
> Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: alternative to real player
>
>
> You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
> be played through Winamp instead of Reel.
>
> On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
> >
> > Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> > wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> > perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
> >
> > At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> > *supposed*
> > >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well,
> > >the
> > >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
> > set
> > >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> > card.
> > >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> > >alternative is just as limited as the original?
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
> > >Subject: alternative to real player
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media
> > > > if
> > I
> > > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> > possible.
> > > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
> > you
> > > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
> > all
> > > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > > > go here for more information about the program:
> > > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> > > > hope that helps
> > > > Denny
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread John Moore
Windows Media Player should be discontinued. Worst program I've ever used.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've
> stated before, I've heard some really excellent
> real quality streaming which beats the pants off
> anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.
>
> At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
> >output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility.
> >But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
> >accessibility issue).
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
> >problems with Real Player at all.
> >
> >At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> > >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
> > >things accessible for us!
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand
> for
> > >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> > >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our
> software.'
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> > >point of view but its also important if you say
> > >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> > >connected to another sound device which it is in
> > >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> > >
> > >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > > >Ian,
> > > >
> > > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about
> > > >this
> > > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why
> this
> > > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using
> adaptive
> > > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication
> of
> > > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor
> of
> > > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Blessed Be,
> > > >
> > > >Dana
> > > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > > >
> > > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Skype: dsleslie
> > > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM
> > > >

Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Ian Wells
That's my only issue too, apart from that as I've 
stated before, I've heard some really excellent 
real quality streaming which beats the pants off 
anything I've heard that Windows Media Player can offer.

At 15:09 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the
>output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility.
>But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an
>accessibility issue).
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
>problems with Real Player at all.
>
>At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
> >Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
> >things accessible for us!
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for
> >such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
> >demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.'
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
> >Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> >Well its not only important from a blind persons
> >point of view but its also important if you say
> >wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
> >connected to another sound device which it is in
> >my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
> >
> >At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> > >Ian,
> > >
> > >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about
> > >this
> > >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this
> > >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive
> > >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> > >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of
> > >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> > >
> > >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of
> > >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> > >
> > >
> > >Blessed Be,
> > >
> > >Dana
> > >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> > >
> > >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Skype: dsleslie
> > >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> > >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> > >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> > >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM
> > >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player
> > > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to
> > > > find such a thing.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car
> > > > in the house."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __

Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Neither do I. My only issue with Realplayer is that one cannot change the 
output device, and Real Networks shows no interest in adding that facility. 
But, for me, that is a MAJOR functionality issue (even if not an 
accessibility issue).

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: dsleslie
Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
Your Source for Discounted Ideas
http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
- Original Message - 
From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no
problems with Real Player at all.

At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
>Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
>things accessible for us!
>- Original Message -
>From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for
>such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
>demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.'
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Well its not only important from a blind persons
>point of view but its also important if you say
>wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
>connected to another sound device which it is in
>my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
>
>At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Ian,
> >
> >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about 
> >this
> >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this
> >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive
> >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of
> >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> >
> >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of
> >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> >
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM
> >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player
> > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to
> > > find such a thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car
> > > in the house."
> > >
> > >
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Dana S. Leslie
As far as I have been able to determine by experiment, it really doesn't. It 
simply allows Winamp's user interface to be used as the user interface to 
RealPlayer. But it's still RealPlayer and its drivers that are doing all the 
real work.



Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
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- Original Message - 
From: "John Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: alternative to real player


You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
be played through Winamp instead of Reel.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>
> Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>
> At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> *supposed*
> >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, 
> >the
> >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
> set
> >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> card.
> >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> >alternative is just as limited as the original?
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
> >Subject: alternative to real player
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media 
> > > if
> I
> > > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as
> possible.
> > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
> you
> > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
> all
> > > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > > go here for more information about the program:
> > > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> > > hope that helps
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Marijan Janev
Yes, Denny, Real alternative is a good piece of software. But I have a problem 
with it. Every time I add a live stream to the favorites it works normaly, but 
after closing and opening the program again, none of them work as it should and 
get :real media error". I don't know what's going on. Does anybody have the 
same thing?
Thanks!
Marijan
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To: PC audio discussion list. 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:11 PM
Subject: alternative to real player


Hi guys,
    I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I have 
to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible.  I found 
a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you lode it the 
player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all the real 
streams. Go here for the program:
http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
go here for more information about the program:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
hope that helps 
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Ian Wells
Okay, well on the accessability front, I had no 
problems with Real Player at all.

At 20:03 15/12/2005 +1100, Gary Wood said:
>Hi Dana!  Well Real Networks don't seem interested in the cause of making
>things accessible for us!
>- Original Message -
>From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:00 AM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for
>such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
>demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.'
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Skype: dsleslie
>Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
>Your Source for Discounted Ideas
>http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
>- Original Message -
>From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
>Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
>
>
>Well its not only important from a blind persons
>point of view but its also important if you say
>wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
>connected to another sound device which it is in
>my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.
>
>At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >Ian,
> >
> >Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this
> >(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this
> >facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive
> >technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
> >consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of
> >whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
> >
> >For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of
> >other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
> >
> >
> >Blessed Be,
> >
> >Dana
> >that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
> >
> >D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Skype: dsleslie
> >Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE
> >Your Source for Discounted Ideas
> >http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Ian Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> >Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM
> >Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
> >
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player
> > > for an option to change the output sound device but cannot seem to
> > > find such a thing.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > "Most accidents happen within the home so please don't drive your car
> > > in the house."
> > >
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread John Moore
You should try Tara's Input Plug-in for Winamp. It allows all audio to
be played through Winamp instead of Reel.

On 12/14/05, Ian Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.
>
> Allot of people are convinced (rightly or
> wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so
> perhaps Real Alternative isn't.
>
> At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
> >I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is
> *supposed*
> >to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
> >control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I
> set
> >it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default
> card.
> >So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
> >alternative is just as limited as the original?
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> > > Hi guys,
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> I
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> possible.
> > > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When
> you
> > > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Ian Wells
I haven't tried changing the output yet so I cannot comment on your post.

Allot of people are convinced (rightly or 
wrongly), that Real Player is full of spy ware so 
perhaps Real Alternative isn't.

At 14:21 14/12/2005 -0500, Dana S. Leslie said:
>I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is *supposed*
>to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the
>control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I set
>it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default card.
>So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the
>alternative is just as limited as the original?
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
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>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
>Subject: alternative to real player
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I
> > have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible.
> > I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you
> > lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all
> > the real streams. Go here for the program:
> > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> > go here for more information about the program:
> > http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Dana S. Leslie
I tried RealAlternative, mainly because, Unlike RealPlayer, it is *supposed* 
to be possible to configure it to use a secondary output device. Well, the 
control is, indeed, there, but I could never get it to work! Even when I set 
it to use my secondary sound card, it continued to use only my default card. 
So, what the point in having an alternative to RealPlayer, if the 
alternative is just as limited as the original?

Blessed Be,

Dana
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D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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- Original Message - 
From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: alternative to real player


> Hi guys,
>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I 
> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible. 
> I found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you 
> lode it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all 
> the real streams. Go here for the program:
> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
> go here for more information about the program:
> http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
> hope that helps
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Re: alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Marty Rimpau
Hi, Denny, will real alternative be the program that plays .rm files,
or do you have to tell it which player to play real media files?  
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:11:12 -0700, Denny Daughters wrote:

>Hi guys,
>I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I 
> have to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible.  I 
> found a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you lode 
> it the player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all the 
> real streams. Go here for the program:
>http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
>go here for more information about the program:
>http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
>hope that helps 
>Denny
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alternative to real player

2005-12-14 Thread Denny Daughters
Hi guys,
I hardly use Real Player and I mostly use winamp or windows media if I have 
to.  I made it a point to get rid of real player as soon as possible.  I found 
a nice alternative in a program called real alternative.  When you lode it the 
player comes up as "media player classic" but it will play all the real 
streams. Go here for the program:
http://www.whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative145.exe
go here for more information about the program:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm
hope that helps 
Denny
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Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER

2005-12-14 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Tyler!  It's too bad that Real takes this attitude.  I use Windows Media 
and Win-Amp.  It beats the heck out of the other players!  I mean Winamp!
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Yes. For some reason, I had been having trouble using real player. It seems
that if you mention that your visually impaired/blind (which I had
experemented with), they seem to ignore you. On the other hand, when I
complained without saying I was blind, they responded immidiately and,
although a little better support was found, they're atitude didn't change
much. I stil prefer winamp or windows meedia player, simply because for one
thing, real players volume is the same as jaws (or window-eyes) which tells
me I need a new sound card, and it seems that if you exit (or minimize it)
it gives no info what so ever about where you are.

Tyler
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Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Well, good luck convincing Real Networks that there is a general demand for
such a facility.! Their attitude seems to be, 'There can't be much of a
demand for it, since we don't offer it, and people still use our software.'

Blessed Be,

Dana
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER


Well its not only important from a blind persons
point of view but its also important if you say
wish to switch to a headset, a Ni Fi system
connected to another sound device which it is in
my case as I don't use software speech of any description etc.

At 15:11 14/12/2005 +1100, Dana S. Leslie said:
>Ian,
>
>Unfortunately, this is NOT possible, in Realplayer. I complained about this
>(quite vigorously) to Real.com, several months ago. I explained why this
>facility is often quite important to the blind and others using adaptive
>technologies. Their only response was a form email, stating that they
>consider all suggestions; but they gave (and have given) no indication of
>whether they ever intend to implement this suggestion.
>
>For this reason, I have ceased to use RealAudio web streams (in favor of
>other formats), wherever possible, and I urge others to do the same.
>
>
>Blessed Be,
>
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>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:49 PM
>Subject: CHANGING OUTPUT SOUND DEVICE IN REAL PLAYER
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>
> > Hello!
> >
> > Anyone know if this can be done? I've looked around in Real Player
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