Re: Manfrotto/Bogen
"David A. Mann" wrote: > The only thing I don't like about my Manfrotto > gear is the cork-lined quick-release plates. > They get no grip on the camera. They've switched > to using rubber since I bought mine, and I can only > hope it's better. I saw the new rubber covered plates at a local camera shop. I happened to have one of the cork covered plates with me. A fellow was trying out t'pod heads to use with his telescope, so we compared the rubber covered plates with the cork covered ones. The rubber seemed to offer more grip. However, some time ago there was a thread here about vibration, and I believe it was suggested that rubber, while affording more grip in this case, may also allow for greater vibration effects. IAC, I'm definitely getting a rubber covered quick release plate at some point as I do believe it offers enough advantages in some situations that it's a worthwhile expenditure. FWIW, the plate in question was for the Manfrotto 410 geared head. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Grain is the brushstroke of photography." - Man Ray - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SuperA vs. KX for a beginner
Johannes,
The KX is a fine camera but I would rather use a SuperA/Super Program.
The KX is bigger, older ('75 vs '83), mechanical with mirror lock-up, and
ruggedly built with a nice feature of being able to see the aperture in the
viewfinder. It was replaced by the more compact MX.
The SuperA is more compact, with an electronically controlled shutter and
some automatic exposure capabilities. The viewfinder is excellent for
eyeglasses wearers as you can see the full image without having to check the
corners. And with an AF200T or AF280T flash, you can have true TTL flash
metering for your photos. (This was a feature that was way ahead of it's
time!) Furthermore, a full complement of lenses, winders, motor drives and
other accessories are floating by on ebay anytime you want to acquire some.
For my taste, the K55/1.8 is appropriate for the KX, but a bit old and clunky
compared to the M50/1.7. I suspect coatings were improved on the M50/1.7 and
there are some 8 years less for dust to accumulate in the M version. Having
shot with both, I'd say that dust may have been the most important
consideration after size.
If you do go for the SuperA/Super Program, you should try to get an A series
lens to take full advantage of the camera. You will not be disappointed by
the A50mm f1.7.
Regards, Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< I'm about to buy my first camera and I'm having a bit of trouble
deciding between these two cameras.. The price of them is about the
same, the SuperA's exterior being in a much better condition. I'd love
to hear some comment's from you people. Also I'd like ot hear if you
think there is some other body in this price range I should check out.
Also I'd like to know if there's a lot of difference between the
image/mechanical quality of SMC-M 50/1.7 and SMC-M 55/1.8.. >>
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Re: Manfrotto/Bogen
Bill D. Casselberry writes: [Manfrotto 029] > is this the one that takes the hex-plate quick release? > ... known here in the US as the 3047? Yes. The hex-plate is the same used by the 168 ball head. The only thing I don't like about my Manfrotto gear is the cork-lined quick- release plates. They get no grip on the camera. They've switched to using rubber since I bought mine, and I can only hope it's better. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[veering OT] Re: Drug Dealer Lens?
>William Robb> When Glenn stops posting, it will be because he has pissed off >William Robb> the wrong people. I admire your ethics, I am not so sure about >William Robb> your sense of self preservation. While I am taking some precautions, it is possible that my self preservation instinct is miscalibrated. There's a certain amount of frustration pushing on the opposite side from the self-preservation though. Yeah, I should think this through. >Bob Blakely> This is why (one reason) I listed a 1911A1 Colt .45 Government >Bob Blakely> Model 70 Mk IV and 2 ea. 8 round clips in the "What Do You >Bob Blakely> Carry" thread. Yah, my sword isn't going to be useful at any real distance. :-( (I do not own (or have training/experience with) any firearms yet.) >Ken Waller> I'm not familiar with either lens, but for my money, I'd >Ken Waller> definitely go with the 400. I can't imagine softness out >Ken Waller> weighing the inreased magnification. The choice of film >Ken Waller> would IMHO have more of an effect on softness. After you've >Ken Waller> got the image you might be suprised what they can reveal in >Ken Waller> Photoshop. Ah! An answer to the technical question I asked -- thanks. Yeah, I might well be surprised what someone skilled in that sort of thing can reveal in Photoshop. I'm only a basic-level user of that, and I know I only scratch the surface of what it can do. >Shel Belinkoff> Use the 400mm lens on a tripod and you'll be fine ... until >Shel Belinkoff> you have to testify in court. Then use a 9mm. I'm really hoping to use these as "here are the people you want to investigate if you decide to follow through" information for the police, and had not thought about the possibility of my photos being used in court. Hmm. Bleah. Maybe tomorrow afternoon I'll set up the tripod and look from across the street to see how visible it is. If it's easily seen, I'm in trouble. >Paul Jones> Just out of curiosity, where do you live? Baltimore, Maryland, USA. West side of town (halfway between the inner harbour and old-town Catonsville). If you know Baltimore, I'm a few blocks west of the B&O Railroad Museum (and a block north, 'cause I'm on Lombard and it's on Pratt). Until a month or two ago, I described my neighbourhood as, "not a good neighbourhood, but not as scary a place as it looks; the _bad_ neighbourhoods being a few blocks away." Recent events have left me feeling that it's gone down a couple notches and is no longer a place I can try to reassure my friends about when they think about coming to visit. I am not happy about this, and I hope the publicized police plan to dramatically increase police presence and visibility on the west side of town does some good. >Mark Cassino> I think you should ask the cops to come over and shoot this >Mark Cassino> with _their_ gear. They are better equipped if the drug >Mark Cassino> lords decide to shoot back... Not sure I could get police into my house without the neighbours noticing and figuring something's up, but I'm sure they've got their own ways of investigating local goings-on. >Dan Scott> I admire your enthusiasm for doing the right thing. However, I'd >Dan Scott> like to seriously suggest you contact the police before you go >Dan Scott> any further with your plan. Please consider these points: > >Dan Scott> 1. a photo of someone handing money over to someone else is >Dan Scott> simply a photo of someone "repaying a loan" (not prosecutable); >Dan Scott> 2. even if the photo contains a baggie changing hands, baggies >Dan Scott> are not against the law and baggies full of white stuff are >Dan Scott> baggies of laundry soap,divinity, or coconut flakes until proven >Dan Scott> otherwise; True -- as I mentioned above, I'm thinking of these as aids to an investigation, not courtroom evidence. And, if the area actually gets cleaned up, reportage. I don't think I have the guts to publish 'em while the subjects are still active though. >Dan Scott> 3. you regularly lean out your apartment window taking photos >Dan Scott> (remember, a sizeable portion of your photogear "wandered off" >Dan Scott> not too long ago); *nod* In fact, I was about to lean out my window to photograph something innocuous that had caught my eye, but decided not to make the camera visible when I saw funny business going on nearby. Folks do know I have a camera, so if photos suddenly started showing up in random places, they'd probably figure out who took them. (I'm hoping I can trust the police not to make my life more interesting than it has to be by letting the wrong people know about the photos.) >Dan Scott> 4. quite frequently, the people who burglarize apartments and >Dan Scott> homes in a neighborhood are also active buyers and sellers of >Dan Scott> narcotics in that neighborhood; Buyers I'd considered, but I hadn't thought that burglars might also be dealers. Hmm. >Dan Scott> 5. if you are seen by your subjects, they
Re: auto DOF "feature"
dick graham wrote: > I think every brand has some features that others don't. Canon's > dof mode is certainly a great feature that I wish my ZX-5n had. Does Canon still put DOF scales on its lenses? If not, this techno-workaround may have some validity. However, personally I would much prefer to establish DOF myself so I can compensate for circle of confusion size depending on expected print size. I have no trouble obtaining desired DOF w/ my m42 Takumar lenses and have developed a "sense" as to what extent I must stop down for given focal lengths. And probably much easier & faster than having to aim & focus twice. Not to mention in non-static situations! Why complicate something so elementary to photography w/ techno "solutions" - is Canon a proponent of the "dumbing down conspiracy"? !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Thanks to everyone (Was : 6x7 enabled, and questions ...)
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the thread. This will get me started. Now I'll hunt for a manual... Michel - Original Message - From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... > - Original Message - > From: "Aaron Reynolds" < > Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... > > > > > > > > Norman Baugher wrote: > > > > > > And always remember to never turn it counter-clockwise... > > > > What happens? I've never even thought of trying that... > > It buggers up the frame counter. The manual specifically warns > against it. > William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A Leica For Pentax Collectors
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1237062732 -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Grain is the brushstroke of photography." - Man Ray - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
A Positive Pentax Experience - Spotmeters
Called Pentax Colorado on Friday and asked for a manual for the Spotmeter V. Bada Bing! two days later it's here - and it's a freebie. No invoice. While it's an original manual, it looks like it's been on the shelf a while, so there's some very slight fading along the edge of the covers, and a wrinkle on the back cover. BTW, I now have both the analog Spotmeter and the digital Spotmeter (Zone VI modified) I am so pleased with these meters. They are accurate, easy to use, and have saved my ass a few times when other meters could not provide the accuracy needed for certain scenes. I highly recommend one or the other. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Grain is the brushstroke of photography." - Man Ray - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Drug Dealer Lens?
Dan Scott, AKA "the Voice of Reason", wrote: and I am quoting its entirety to emphasize my total agreement. Don't do it yourself, Glenn! > I admire your enthusiasm for doing the right thing. However, I'd like to > seriously suggest you contact the police before you go any further with > your plan. Please consider these points: > > 1. a photo of someone handing money over to someone else is simply a photo > of someone "repaying a loan" (not prosecutable); > 2. even if the photo contains a baggie changing hands, baggies are not > against the law and baggies full of white stuff are baggies of laundry > soap,divinity, or coconut flakes until proven otherwise; > 3. you regularly lean out your apartment window taking photos (remember, a > sizeable portion of your photogear "wandered off" not too long ago); > 4. quite frequently, the people who burglarize apartments and homes in a > neighborhood are also active buyers and sellers of narcotics in that > neighborhood; > 5. if you are seen by your subjects, they won't have any doubts about why > you were photographing them; > 6. you don't have eyes in the back of your head. > > By contacting the police first, you are still doing the right thing. By > letting the police decide if and how they want to follow up on your > information, you let them obtain the evidence in a way that is most likely > to be useable to them. Please reconsider. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Jörgen Blomgren wrote: > I thought that the idea then could be that you can use that head > both like an ordinary 3-way head and a bit like a ballhead. > That was the reason behind my question. You can use it both ways, but if you use it as a ballhead, then you have to loosen and tighten two knobs instead of one, and you only get movement in two planes, not three. There are more expensive ballheads that let you lock motion in individual planes, but I think that's out of your budget, IIRC. > Regarding ballheads, people here on the list have said that it is not > good for macro photography, and as that is one thing I would like to > test, I hesitate a bit to get one. My opinion? Try them both. When it comes to tripods and heads, nothing beats using them in the field to find out your preferences. I did a lot of research before buying my 141RC (3-way head), but after a few weeks of using it I found that my shooting style was better suited by a ballhead. The 141RC sounded good in theory, but I personally found it too much hassle to move it in multiple planes simultaneously. chris > | "There was a point to this story, | \ / / / > | but it has temporarily escaped the cronicler's mind." | \ \ \/ / / Isn't that "chronicler's"? :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Drug Dealer Lens?
> And yes, I plan to ask the vice squad whether they're interested in > the film.) Sell them some prints, then sell the negs to the dealers. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Once Upon a Time There Was a Polarizr ...
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 15, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Once Upon a Time There Was a Polarizr ... > ... which was sold by Spiratone. It was a red-blue dichroic > polarizer marketed under Colorflow Bicolor name. It had a way of > shifting colors, and could make a blue sky red, windows blue, and so > on. Is there anything like this available today? Check out Hoya PL-Colour and Vario PL-Colour. I am sure there are others. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" < Subject: Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... > > > Norman Baugher wrote: > > > > And always remember to never turn it counter-clockwise... > > What happens? I've never even thought of trying that... It buggers up the frame counter. The manual specifically warns against it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Mislisted
Nikor on Ebay was listed incorrectly . . . I thought by the heading someone might have modified the mount to something USEFUL, but apparently it's still a N mount. Poor glass ;-) Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pic of The week. What do you think?
The reason why the cars seem still is because they are moving towards the camera. If the were moving to the left or right there'd be a lot more blur. Personally I would leave the cars alone, they aren't the subject. And if you blur the background more they may not be recognizable as cars, their headlights just a couple of distracting streaks along the bottom. But if you want to expirement with slower shutter speeds, an easy way to lose a few stops would be to put a polarizer on the lens. I wouldn't try a red filter, as the red on white sign would not show up well, but on the other hand a green filter should raise the contrast on the sign, maxing it black on white instead of dark grey on white. Just a thought. Todd At 10:08 AM 5/14/01 +0530, you wrote: > >Hi! > >Can you tell me the photographic details like shutter speed and aperture? >The reason I am asking this is: There are two cars on the road at the >bottom of the picture. Though they seem to stopped but they are almost at >the middle of the road with its headlights on. So, it conveys the >information that they were actually moving. If I have been in your place, >I should have given a long exposure to catch the cars a stricks of light >besides photographing the building. I think a slow speed film is required >for that. > >I like those blobs of light from the street lights in your photograph. > >Cheers, >Ayash Kanto. > > >On Sun, 13 May 2001, Douglas E Harmon wrote: > >> Hey ya all, >> This is a picture I took last week of the Freedom Tower here in Miami. >> The Freedom tower was where many Cuban refugees were processed in the 60's >> and 70's. I tried to leave the building as out of focus as possible but >> still recognizable to stay off in the background. F50mm 1.7 @ F2.8 for 1/30 >> or 1/15. The main focus was the Do Not Enter sign. Could be a comment on the >> current state of the US imigration policy for Cuban refugees. >> >> Here's my pic. What do you think? >> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/mia/g/e/genius91/freedom.jpg >> >> To see what's being done for the future of this building. >> http://www.structural.net/News/media%20coverage/freedomtower.htm >> >> l8r, >> Douglas E Harmon >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://personal.mia.bellsouth.net/~genius91/ >> >> >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Once Upon a Time There Was a Polarizr ...
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > It had a way of > shifting colors, and could make a blue sky red, windows blue, and so > on. Is there anything like this available today? I believe you're referring to LSD. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
Norman Baugher wrote: > > And always remember to never turn it counter-clockwise... What happens? I've never even thought of trying that... -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Iris prints on watercolour paper
Hi, I'm working towards a small exhibition later this year. I'm shooting the photos on Scala, which I plan to have scanned and printed digitally. I've been advised to have Iris prints made on watercolour paper. At an exhibition this weekend I noted that Catherine Opie's prints are made this way, so I paid particular attention to them technically, and I'm quite impressed. I'm pretty sure Anthony Suau's prints were done this way for his 'Beyond the Fall' exhibition, too. (http://www.informinc.co.uk/LM/LM128/LM128_CW_Walter.html) When I saw this exhibition I was impressed with his prints, and didn't know until some time afterwards that they were digital. The same person who suggested I use this medium has also recommended somebody to do the prints. My questions are: does anybody here have any personal experience of Iris prints on watercolour paper? If so, what advice can you give me about getting it done? What questions should I ask the printer? What information should I offer? How should I evaluate his work? How should I make sure he does the best possible job for me? TIA, Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
Joergen Blomgren wrote: Hi Joergen, > Exactly how do the knobs work ? > I think that you turn them to free the axis, and then you have > to adjust the camera in that axis, and then turn the knob back > to lock the axis, is that right ? Yes. That's exactly how it works. > Can you free the axis just enough so the camera is moveable, > but does not "fall" ? Yes. Once the camera is lock into head mount via the removable plate, it is securely lock and would not fall off the head regardless of what you may be doing with the control knobs. > Do you have to take each axis in turn, or can you with some > practice adjust 2 or 3 together ? Depending on the dexterity you acquired with familiarity from regular use, I suppose you could make those simultaneous adjustments. But keep in mind that the 3 knob controls is geared more for precision than speed. > What kind of photography do you use this head for ? > Or rather, is it good for both general and macro photography ? > That is what I will be using it for, at least to try macro > photography, so if it is bad for that, it would be good to > know before. I don't do any macro photography so I'm afraid I can't help you there. But in terms of general photography, I'm very happy with it's handling and overall performance. Especially in scenic photography which is my personal favorite. > I guess the best would be to try it in real life, but I do not > have any good shop nearby, so I have no possibility to test it. Don't worry about the numerous questions. I'm of a similar vein when I'm contemplating a purchase. I do a lot of research and meticulous comparison shopping. And I asked a lot of questions. And that's the area that the list is really most helpful as I'm sure you realize by the number of responses you're getting from your inquiry. So I'm sure that by the time you decide on a model, you'd be a very well informed buyer. Good luck to you and happy hunting. Kind Regards Paulo Ernest _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hi from Canada
Hi everyone. I'm new at this. Though I've been on the "Net" for three years now I've not been on any discussion forums. Funny I should pick this one as I have just rekindled an interest in photography. Dusted off my old Pentax S1a, said "Man this is old!" (but good)" I need to get me a newer version of the Pentax". I ended up with an ME Super and a 50mm lens along with an 80-200mm tele. Looks and works O.K. Being the inquisitive type and kind of tech minded I've got some other ME Supers on the way "for parts or repair". Anyone out there got any pointers (from experience) as to how I should go about "repairs" to these older but remarkable cameras? Dave Afford Lunenburg N.S. Canada :~)
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
Hi, the extent of damage rather depends on how long the back is open. My experience has been that only about 4 frames were damaged, namely those in the region of the shutter. The ones wound round the spool were all ok, as were those that were still in the can of course. This was with a Contax RX, which doesn't give the choice and starts from frame 1, often giving me 37 or 38 frames. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Art is a form of play, not to be taken seriously" - Plato Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 7:01:50 PM, you wrote: > Fuji pioneered the "advance to the final frame" concept in its > point-and-shoots, I believe in the early 80s. Some pro-level SLRs (Contax, > possibly others) now let you choose whether the frame counter should "count > up" or "count down," roll by roll. > I agree with Ayesh: Keeping the exposed images safely protected makes so > much sense, camera makers whose cameras don't offer the feature--at least > as a choice--have some explaining to do. One can only imagine what > priceless photos the world has lost because a camera back was prematurely > opened. > -- > Ayash Kanto Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced > the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. ... if the > camera > back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film > cartridge and it is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. So, if you have > taken a few > shots with lot of hardwork and thinking, it remains safe inside the > cartridge. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax SuperA vs. KX for a beginner
In a message dated 5/15/2001 4:01:42 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I'm about to buy my first camera and I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between these two cameras.. The price of them is about the same, the SuperA's exterior being in a much better condition. I'd love to hear some comment's from you people. Also I'd like ot hear if you think there is some other body in this price range I should check out. Also I'd like to know if there's a lot of difference between the image/mechanical quality of SMC-M 50/1.7 and SMC-M 55/1.8.. Hi Johannes! I do not have any experience with the Super A, but I own two KX's. I can tell you that the KX is as good as any of the cameras I have ever owned, including Nikons. The fact that I sold all of my Nikons and Canons and kept my Pentaxes should say something. I have a black body KX (that is still in minty condition) that is a real work horse and has never let me down in over 20 years of use. The only drawback (if you want to call it that) is that it is a fully manual camera and will not accept a motor drive or winder (unless the KX you have found is a DMD model). You can find KX's various places, usually in very good condition. I think this would be an excellent camera for you. As for the lenses, I own one of each and both are fine lenses. I prefer the 55/1.8 and carry it everywhere I go. The only real difference between this lenses is that with the 55, what you see in the viewfinder is what shows up on film. Not so with the 50mm. If the 55mm is in good shape, go for it! Hope some of this helps. John Stephenson St. Louis, Missouri
Re: Dull list
I think every camera brand has some features that others don't. Canon's dof mode is certainly a great feature that I wish my ZX-5n had. However, I am fairly sure that Canon does not have the Pentax trap focus mode found on the latest models of Pentax auto focus slrs. For the uninitiated trap focus involves using a manual focus lens and pre-focusing on a set location (such as a prospective bird roost), setting the focus mode on the camera body to auto and locking the focus down with cable switch F, I believe. When your subject arrives at the focus point it will trip the shutter. DG At 09:46 PM 5/15/01 +0100, you wrote: >Ok. > >So we've just bought my wife a Canon EOS 30 (as she wisely chose to buy a >different brand to me to prevent arguments over who used what lens). > >I think the EOS 30 is a brilliant camera. > >Canon have a depth of field mode, where you focus on the near and then far >subjects, and the camera sets the aperture required to give you the depth of >field - and it really works. > >I had no idea that the 'competition' had these sorts of features. I reckon >that I've been sticking my head too deep in the sand. > > >Andy F > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Once Upon a Time There Was a Polarizr ...
... which was sold by Spiratone. It was a red-blue dichroic polarizer marketed under Colorflow Bicolor name. It had a way of shifting colors, and could make a blue sky red, windows blue, and so on. Is there anything like this available today? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Grain is the brushstroke of photography." - Man Ray - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax SuperA vs. KX for a beginner
Hi! I'm about to buy my first camera and I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between these two cameras.. The price of them is about the same, the SuperA's exterior being in a much better condition. I'd love to hear some comment's from you people. Also I'd like ot hear if you think there is some other body in this price range I should check out. Also I'd like to know if there's a lot of difference between the image/mechanical quality of SMC-M 50/1.7 and SMC-M 55/1.8.. Thanks! Johannes - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dull list
Ok. So we've just bought my wife a Canon EOS 30 (as she wisely chose to buy a different brand to me to prevent arguments over who used what lens). I think the EOS 30 is a brilliant camera. Canon have a depth of field mode, where you focus on the near and then far subjects, and the camera sets the aperture required to give you the depth of field - and it really works. I had no idea that the 'competition' had these sorts of features. I reckon that I've been sticking my head too deep in the sand. Andy F - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Autoloaded to frame 1
Ayash Kanto Mukherjee wrote: >In all the MZ/ZX series cameras that PENTAX has manufactured, the >autoloading facility advances the film to frame1 as soon as the camera >back is closed. There are two disadvantages with this system. >1. You loose two to three frames. I have always noticed that. >2. If by accident the camera back is opened, the exposed part of the film > gets spoiled completely. >A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced >the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. Thus you >always sqeeze atleast two to three more shots. Secondly, if the camera >back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film >cartridge and it >is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. My PZ-1p, 37, occasionally 38. Wife's Canon, always 36 (they seem to have designed the film transport to do that on purpose). My manual load cameras, 36-37 full frames and some partials. I can see the advantage of Canon's solution, and would prefer it as it saves the pictuers I've already taken. However, I solved the problem by learning how to check for film in the cameras and training myself to always check before opening. Haven't had the problem in years. However, if that is such a problem, then why hasn't some company designed an interlock to prevent the camera back from being opened when there is film in it? >I wonder why PENTAX has not considered this part of camera design. Perhaps patent infringement? >Recently, I was using KODAK MAX 400 (the old package), and I got 35 >exposures only though it is expected to allow atleast 36 exposures. It >happened twice with me. Sounds like you pulled out too much film while loading. I used to do that sometimes while I was learning to use my K-1000 or having a fit loading it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
Hi Albano, [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: > > > 029 rules! > > Jokes aside, what is its strong points ? > J.B Joergen Blomgren > > I like my 029 because it's very, very solid (I use it with 144 legs). Those are called 055 now, so that is the same kind of tripod I am thinking of. > Three way adjustment with two bubble levels. Hexagonal shape > qiuck release plate. Rock solid. It's very similar to 141RC, > but more solid imho. Thanks for those points (even though you make my decision harder :-). It looks as if the 141RC is a downscaled 029 ? > Manfrotto is very excellent stuff in general. > > Regards > > Albano > > PS: For comparisons of specs (and usa moddel numbers) > go to www.manfrotto.com > [SNIP] I have been there many times, so much that I feared they would bill me for the bandwidth... ;-> Thanks for your time, -- J.B Joergen Blomgren e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: user.tninet.se/~soy123d __ /___ /\ | "There was a point to this story, | \ / / / | but it has temporarily escaped the cronicler's mind." | \ \ \/ / / | Last sentence in "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" | \ \ \/ / | Part Four of Five In the Trilogy|\ \ / | "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams | \_\/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
Hi Chris, Chris Brogden skrev: > > I'm not a big fan of the 3-way Junior head. Actually, I hate it. > It's > small, but I find the grips are way too small for my liking. Oh, have not thought of that, I was just worried that it would be sort of tricky to adjust without large handles. > If you want > a 3-way head, check out Manfrotto's 141RC, which has larger rubber > grips. I have looked at that one, and it it one of my alternatives. > 3-way heads work well when you need precise control over each > plane of movement, but if you want to loosen two or more grips at once > to > have more freedom of movement, why not just get a ballhead? Well, I guess that the strength of 3-way heads is the precise control, but what I can see on the 460MG, you have to grab the camera and adjust the position in a similar way as on a ballhead. I thought that the idea then could be that you can use that head both like an ordinary 3-way head and a bit like a ballhead. That was the reason behind my question. Regarding ballheads, people here on the list have said that it is not good for macro photography, and as that is one thing I would like to test, I hesitate a bit to get one. > Manfrotto's > 352RC is a nice, basic ballhead, and will be easier to move in fancy > ways > than the Junior 3-way head. > That is also one of my alternatives. > chris > [SNIP] Even though I may sound a bit ungrateful, I am not, I just want to avoid throwing away money. Thanks for the help. Best regards, -- J.B Joergen Blomgren e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: user.tninet.se/~soy123d __ /___ /\ | "There was a point to this story, | \ / / / | but it has temporarily escaped the cronicler's mind." | \ \ \/ / / | Last sentence in "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" | \ \ \/ / | Part Four of Five In the Trilogy|\ \ / | "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams | \_\/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Speaking of Tri-X and Plus-X. Is IMP and USA from B&H safe?
William Robb wrote: My favourite kitchen knife was made in Brazil, May be Tramontina? Very common and praised here in South America. Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
>> 029 rules! > >Jokes aside, what is its strong points ? >J.B Joergen Blomgren > >I like my 029 because it's very, very solid (I use it with 144 legs Yikes!!! 8^) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Packaging, aliteracy and HHGTG
If you surf over to http://www.douglasadams.com/ you'll find a message board of tributes to the great frood himself (and you're a heartless bastard indeed if you can read through them without shedding a tear). As I was reading through them it struck me that, even though his work appeared on radio, TV and computer games, the majority of posters had, like myself, experienced Douglas Adams' work mainly through his books. By an overwhelming margin, I expect. Gives you hope. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
> 029 rules! Jokes aside, what is its strong points ? J.B Joergen Blomgren I like my 029 because it's very, very solid (I use it with 144 legs). Three way adjustment with two bubble levels. Hexagonal shape qiuck release plate. Rock solid. It's very similar to 141RC, but more solid imho. Manfrotto is very excellent stuff in general. Regards Albano PS: For comparisons of specs (and usa moddel numbers) go to www.manfrotto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
Bruce wrote: > My friend has a Canon Rebel and one downside to the system is that all the > frames are numbered backwards from a chronology point of view. The > mini-labs number your prints and these number will be in the opposite order > of how you actually took them. See! Technology Run Amok! (trademark, Canon Corp) ... it's insidious, I tell you! ... and with such collusion between camera & processing equipment manufacturers - a conspiracy, as well! !8^D - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pictures of a TaeKwonDo demo
I finally got some pictures up that I took a couple of weekends ago. When I got the film back and looked at the pictures I could have kicked myself in the head. I used 400 ISO instead of using 800 and most of the pictures turned out blurry. http://Beckling.tripod.com/demo.htm Any helpful comments or hints are sure appreciated. Thanks, Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
They were mine. Paul wrote: >One can only imagine what > priceless photos the world has lost because a camera back was prematurely > opened. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Autoloaded to frame 1
I get always 37 shots onto 36 exposure roll with my MZ-5n. Always. With Leica I get 38 but I do not think it is cost-effective. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 15. toukokuuta 2001 18:27 Aihe: Autoloaded to frame 1 > >Hi all! > >In all the MZ/ZX series cameras that PENTAX has manufactured, the >autoloading facility advances the film to frame1 as soon as the camera >back is closed. There are two disadvantages with this system. > >1. You loose two to three frames. I have always noticed that. > >2. If by accident the camera back is opened, the exposed part of the film > gets spoiled completely. > >A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced >the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. Thus you >always sqeeze atleast two to three more shots. Secondly, if the camera >back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film >cartridge and it >is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. So, if you have taken a few >shots >with lot of hardwork and thinking, it remains safe inside the cartridge. >For a serious photographer it is an advantage. > >I wonder why PENTAX has not considered this part of camera design. > >Recently, I was using KODAK MAX 400 (the old package), and I got 35 >exposures only though it is expected to allow atleast 36 exposures. It >happened twice with me. > >With regards, >Ayash Kanto. > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
Ayash Kanto wrote: > > In all the MZ/ZX series cameras that PENTAX has manufactured, the > > autoloading facility advances the film to frame1 as soon as the camera > > back is closed. There are two disadvantages with this system. > > 1. You loose two to three frames. I have always noticed that. :^) just another example of over automation and too much technical brouhaha. I can load my Spotmatics in a dark room and start shooting as soon as the tongue of the film is once around the take-up spool! Even back in the days of the Super Program, dark forces were at work laying the foundations for this dilemma currently under discussion by deactivating the meter until a certain excess ammount of film had been wound on. disclaimer: due to another over mechanization, this doesn't work well if color film is processed in a color printing machine. Best to use Plus-X, Tri-X or Verichrome Pan and soup it yerself in a small daylight tank. m42 -( Forwrd into the Past! )- Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen
Albano enthused: > > 029 rules! > > : - P is this the one that takes the hex-plate quick release? ... known here in the US as the 3047? If so, I can say that I have one also and find it quite adequate - a nice 3-way head to complement my two 3055 hex-plate ball heads, when a pan/tilt head is preferable. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: High Speed Slide Film (if it exists...)
Hi, I've used Ektachrome P1600 at 3200 inside the churches of Lalibela in Ethiopia. These are dark places, usually lit only by an open doorway or by a small window high up in the chamber. The churches are usually full of brocade and silk, with gold and silver crosses and staffs, bright colourful paintings and frescoes, and priests with exceptionally dark skin, dressed very ornately. I shot with an LX on auto, on a tripod and was able to get relatively short exposure times - short enough for a posing priest to be sharp, but too long to be handheld. However the colours on the slides, while not inaccurate (I mean, blues were blue, reds were red), were so much brighter and more vibrant than I remember the actual scene that I'm not sure I'd want to use it again. I'd have to do some controlled tests to see the circumstances in which it workds best, and this is what I'd recommend to you. The skin tones seemed accurate enough, but on balance the film didn't seem entirely natural. But then, Ethiopia's like that anyway :o) --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Art is a form of play, not to be taken seriously" - Plato Tuesday, May 15, 2001, 2:30:17 PM, you wrote: > Hi, I'm interested in doing some low light shooting in slide film. > I want to know what films are available/usable in speeds of 800 and up > (preferably up). > All comments will be highly appreciated. > Thanks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
I'm not a big fan of the 3-way Junior head. Actually, I hate it. It's small, but I find the grips are way too small for my liking. If you want a 3-way head, check out Manfrotto's 141RC, which has larger rubber grips. 3-way heads work well when you need precise control over each plane of movement, but if you want to loosen two or more grips at once to have more freedom of movement, why not just get a ballhead? Manfrotto's 352RC is a nice, basic ballhead, and will be easier to move in fancy ways than the Junior 3-way head. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Packaging
Read it, including bullet points. Nice touch about none of you aliterates. Some good arguments, some flimsy. Get some personal help. cheers - Marty. --- Joe Urmos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I realize that none of you aliterates are likely to read this, > >or even get > >> to the bullet points, but here goes: > >> > >> > >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23370-2001May13.html > > > >I'll read it when I get a moment.. > >William Robb > > > > Don't bother, I hear the journalist will be interviewed on radio ... > should > provide all the salient details. If that's good enough to get one through > grad school... :o > > > -joe > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Autoloaded to frame 1
Fuji pioneered the "advance to the final frame" concept in its point-and-shoots, I believe in the early 80s. Some pro-level SLRs (Contax, possibly others) now let you choose whether the frame counter should "count up" or "count down," roll by roll. I agree with Ayesh: Keeping the exposed images safely protected makes so much sense, camera makers whose cameras don't offer the feature--at least as a choice--have some explaining to do. One can only imagine what priceless photos the world has lost because a camera back was prematurely opened. -- Ayash Kanto Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. ... if the camera back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film cartridge and it is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. So, if you have taken a few shots with lot of hardwork and thinking, it remains safe inside the cartridge. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
Hi Albano, [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: > > 029 rules! > : - P > Yes, at least size-, weight- and price-wise ;-> (By that description, at sounds as it is a sumo-wrestler :-) Jokes aside, what is its strong points ? > Albano > [SNIP] Best regards, -- J.B Joergen Blomgren e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: user.tninet.se/~soy123d __ /___ /\ | "There was a point to this story, | \ / / / | but it has temporarily escaped the cronicler's mind." | \ \ \/ / / | Last sentence in "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" | \ \ \/ / | Part Four of Five In the Trilogy|\ \ / | "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams | \_\/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto/Bogen 3-way head Junior Magnesium
Hello Ernest, Ernest Alejandria skrev: [SNIP] > Hi Joergen, > > I use the 460mg head on my Manfrotto carbon fiber tripod (model 440/ > Bogen > 3444). As Jan said, it is the ideal compliment to the lightweight > carbon > fiber tripod series. The ease of portability and it's inherent > sturdiness is > hard to match on this combination IMO. > I guess you are right, but I find it hard to justify the cost of the carbon fibre tripod, not that I do not think it is worth the cost for some, but not for me at this moment. > The 3 knobs adjustment control takes some getting used to, at first. > But > just like in anything else, the more you use it, the more familiar > they > become. I've been using this tripod/head combo for about a year now, > and > those control knobs are pretty much second nature to me by now. > Sorry to have to ask some question, if you have the time and energy (and of course have the answers), I would be grateful if you would answer, but do not feel pressed to answer. Exactly how do the knobs work ? I think that you turn them to free the axis, and then you have to adjust the camera in that axis, and then turn the knob back to lock the axis, is that right ? Can you free the axis just enough so the camera is moveable, but does not "fall" ? Do you have to take each axis in turn, or can you with some practice adjust 2 or 3 together ? What kind of photography do you use this head for ? Or rather, is it good for both general and macro photography ? That is what I will be using it for, at least to try macro photography, so if it is bad for that, it would be good to know before. I guess the best would be to try it in real life, but I do not have any good shop nearby, so I have no possibility to test it. > I also like the removable quick-release plate feature of this head. [SNIP] > > So for this and other reasons already stated, I wouldn't hesitate in > recommending this head to anybody. > Thanks for this, this is exactly the kind of input I was *hoping* for, but I did not count on it, so I am grateful, even though I "thanked" with a bunch of question. > Regards, > > Paulo Ernest [SNIP] Best regards, -- J.B Joergen Blomgren e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: user.tninet.se/~soy123d __ /___ /\ | "There was a point to this story, | \ / / / | but it has temporarily escaped the cronicler's mind." | \ \ \/ / / | Last sentence in "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish" | \ \ \/ / | Part Four of Five In the Trilogy|\ \ / | "The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams | \_\/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Yosemity park, Tioga pass open?
> >>One of these links should give you the information you want. They are >>both updated regularly. >> >>http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ >>http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/mtnhwys.htm > >Thanks John (and everybody else supplying the info, IT'S OPEN! :-) > If you don't have this URL already, here's a live image of Half Dome: http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/index.htm As you can see, rather anemic snow cover this year. -joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
Of course one could use AGFA's HDC + which gives you 3 free exposures on a 24 exposure roll., that means you get 27 exposures for the price of 24. One of our local supermarkets sells AGFA HDC+ 100 for $1.99 USD. DG At 09:13 PM 5/15/01 +0530, you wrote: >Hi all! > >In all the MZ/ZX series cameras that PENTAX has manufactured, the >autoloading facility advances the film to frame1 as soon as the camera >back is closed. There are two disadvantages with this system. > >1. You loose two to three frames. I have always noticed that. > >2. If by accident the camera back is opened, the exposed part of the film >gets spoiled completely. > >A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced >the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. Thus you >always sqeeze atleast two to three more shots. Secondly, if the camera >back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film >cartridge and it >is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. So, if you have taken a few >shots >with lot of hardwork and thinking, it remains safe inside the cartridge. >For a serious photographer it is an advantage. > >I wonder why PENTAX has not considered this part of camera design. > >Recently, I was using KODAK MAX 400 (the old package), and I got 35 >exposures only though it is expected to allow atleast 36 exposures. It >happened twice with me. > >With regards, >Ayash Kanto. > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Kodak Packaging
>> I realize that none of you aliterates are likely to read this, >or even get >> to the bullet points, but here goes: >> >> >http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23370-2001May13.html > >I'll read it when I get a moment.. >William Robb > Don't bother, I hear the journalist will be interviewed on radio ... should provide all the salient details. If that's good enough to get one through grad school... :o -joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Re: Kodak Packaging
What that it were that simple: This was the I.S. Department (Oracle DBA) who was tasked to do the install... We though it would be safe Shoulda Coulda Woulda... Paul M. Provencher (ppro) -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Kodak Packaging Paul, I agree with you, having been in the industry for 20 years. However, because some systems can be installed without reading the full manual, users are trained that they don't need to read the manual. So when they encounter a system that requires full reading, they wouldn't be able to tell. Because all the manuals say they must read before installing, they assume that all of them are lying. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Provencher, Paul M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: RE: Re: Kodak Packaging > I had a complete computer system roll-out fail because the customer didn't > read the directions. We provided a FULLY ILLUSTRATED, color, step-by-step, > online and printed guide. It was a long and detailed, but not a complicated > procedure. > > Long nasty story made short, I get a phone call to report that something is > wrong, it doesn't work, etc., etc. > > I go out and ask if they are following the install manual. They told me > there were. > > I said what step was causing problems (page number, step number please) > > They say, "Well the manual is only one page and it's step number 8-of-10." > > What? The manual is 65 pages long and there are over 400 steps. What > manual are you using? > > "Well, we condensed it down to one page because it was taking too long and > we didn't want to read the steps for every install" > > OK, anyone who develops software knows that the install was too long and > complicated. Unfortunately, it was a system that used off-the-shelf > software (a suite of five separate products) and integrations to four of > those products. As such, the install could not be simplified any more than > it already was (we wrote several install programs to reduce the 2000 steps > to the 400. It still required human involvement. Not a rocket scientist, > just someone who could read and check off steps as they went. If there was > to be a "next time", we'd require that the roll-out be handled by us and > bill accordingly (We suggested this but the customer wanted to save money). > Unfortunately there will not be a next time... > > So anyone who thinks I am split on this issue, I guess I just see two > different issues. One is the companies who foster this kind of ignorance > with their packaging/presentation/marketing philosophy and the idiot > consumers who are too lazy/ignorant/stupid/busy to care. That is a whole > different thing from situations where it is not necessary to read, pay > attention, and take personal responsibility (e.g. I think it's OK for people > to use P&S cameras)... > > Paul M. Provencher > (ppro) > > > -Original Message- > From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Re: Kodak Packaging > > > On Mon, 14 May 2001 22:25:08 -0400, Douglas E Harmon wrote: > > > I get countless questions from people who > > REFUSE to RTFM. I sometimes repeat the same answer to the same person > > multiple times. Sigh. > > I don't. I tell them it's in the manual and go back to my real job. I'm > not paid to train them to read. > > TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Kodak Packaging
How about a different explanation.. the user interface isn't so well designed? If it is meant to be used by common people, and the users have to constantly refer to the manual or re-ask a question, then that is usually a very good sign of a badly designed user interface. It implies that they need to remember things that are not normally a part of their daily lives (including their job). I hadn't thought about it until now (thanks Douglas), but using that measure, film packaging is a broken user interface. One needed to memorize some arcane piece of knowledge (the ISO number), or have some amount of education in order to select the proper film. If one is a photographer that uses that information almost daily, then yes, it is appropriate to expect them to learn and memorize it. However, if that person is not a photographer, and (for example) just wants to take snaps of their children to remember them by when they are older, then it is a broken user interface to ask them to memorize or learn such stuff. If I saw a piece of computer software with the same attributes -- one that required its users to remember or learn something they have no other use for, and only infrequent use for at best -- it would be a no-brainer to conclude that the program could have used a better user interface. So, I put forth that Kodak isn't so much contributing to the dumbing down of America, as merely fixing a user interface flaw in their packaging. Douglas E Harmon wrote: >This could be why no one reads the fancy little manual we typed up for >our Point of Sale system at work. I get countless questions from people who >REFUSE to RTFM. I sometimes repeat the same answer to the same person >multiple times. Sigh. later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: 24-90 Zoom
I have - so far the results (not that many) look very good indeed. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 15. toukokuuta 2001 16:46 Aihe: 24-90 Zoom >Has anyone used the new 24-90 Zoom lens? Any feedback? > >In June Pop Photo there is a good article on the Wide-to-tele lenses which >range 24 to 200mm. Among the lenses listed, Pentax is the most expensive. >It appears that these lenses are very popular with wedding photographers. > > >___MKR___ > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Kodak Packaging
Paul, I agree with you, having been in the industry for 20 years. However, because some systems can be installed without reading the full manual, users are trained that they don't need to read the manual. So when they encounter a system that requires full reading, they wouldn't be able to tell. Because all the manuals say they must read before installing, they assume that all of them are lying. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Provencher, Paul M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: RE: Re: Kodak Packaging > I had a complete computer system roll-out fail because the customer didn't > read the directions. We provided a FULLY ILLUSTRATED, color, step-by-step, > online and printed guide. It was a long and detailed, but not a complicated > procedure. > > Long nasty story made short, I get a phone call to report that something is > wrong, it doesn't work, etc., etc. > > I go out and ask if they are following the install manual. They told me > there were. > > I said what step was causing problems (page number, step number please) > > They say, "Well the manual is only one page and it's step number 8-of-10." > > What? The manual is 65 pages long and there are over 400 steps. What > manual are you using? > > "Well, we condensed it down to one page because it was taking too long and > we didn't want to read the steps for every install" > > OK, anyone who develops software knows that the install was too long and > complicated. Unfortunately, it was a system that used off-the-shelf > software (a suite of five separate products) and integrations to four of > those products. As such, the install could not be simplified any more than > it already was (we wrote several install programs to reduce the 2000 steps > to the 400. It still required human involvement. Not a rocket scientist, > just someone who could read and check off steps as they went. If there was > to be a "next time", we'd require that the roll-out be handled by us and > bill accordingly (We suggested this but the customer wanted to save money). > Unfortunately there will not be a next time... > > So anyone who thinks I am split on this issue, I guess I just see two > different issues. One is the companies who foster this kind of ignorance > with their packaging/presentation/marketing philosophy and the idiot > consumers who are too lazy/ignorant/stupid/busy to care. That is a whole > different thing from situations where it is not necessary to read, pay > attention, and take personal responsibility (e.g. I think it's OK for people > to use P&S cameras)... > > Paul M. Provencher > (ppro) > > > -Original Message- > From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Re: Kodak Packaging > > > On Mon, 14 May 2001 22:25:08 -0400, Douglas E Harmon wrote: > > > I get countless questions from people who > > REFUSE to RTFM. I sometimes repeat the same answer to the same person > > multiple times. Sigh. > > I don't. I tell them it's in the manual and go back to my real job. I'm > not paid to train them to read. > > TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Autoloaded to frame 1
I have mixed feelings about the Canon system. Certainly for those prone to open the back instead of wind the film back, it can be useful. I have only opened the back accidentally once on my wife's ZX-10 because she told me that the film needed changing. I mistakenly thought that she had shot the last frame and it had wound back. I quickly closed the back and only lost about 3 frames. My friend has a Canon Rebel and one downside to the system is that all the frames are numbered backwards from a chronology point of view. The mini-labs number your prints and these number will be in the opposite order of how you actually took them. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Ayash Kanto Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: Autoloaded to frame 1 > > Hi all! > > In all the MZ/ZX series cameras that PENTAX has manufactured, the > autoloading facility advances the film to frame1 as soon as the camera > back is closed. There are two disadvantages with this system. > > 1. You loose two to three frames. I have always noticed that. > > 2. If by accident the camera back is opened, the exposed part of the film >gets spoiled completely. > > A month back, Canon EOS 300 came in my hand and I noticed that it advanced > the film to the last frame with the closure of camera back. Thus you > always sqeeze atleast two to three more shots. Secondly, if the camera > back is opened by accident, the exposed part goes inside the film > cartridge and it > is the unexposed part which gets spoiled. So, if you have taken a few > shots > with lot of hardwork and thinking, it remains safe inside the cartridge. > For a serious photographer it is an advantage. > > I wonder why PENTAX has not considered this part of camera design. > > Recently, I was using KODAK MAX 400 (the old package), and I got 35 > exposures only though it is expected to allow atleast 36 exposures. It > happened twice with me. > > With regards, > Ayash Kanto. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
High Speed Slide Film (if it exists...)
Hi, I'm interested in doing some low light shooting in slide film. I want to know what films are available/usable in speeds of 800 and up (preferably up). All comments will be highly appreciated. Thanks Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Kodak Packaging
Evan Hanson wrote: > > LOL, Shel I often get the same reaction > when people see my collection off > books and (gasp) literary journals. A couple of years ago I was visiting a fellow in St. Louis. He's quite well off and has a large, well appointed home. I went into one of the rooms and saw there was a case filled with books, all leather bound, which included the works of Dickens, Tolstoy, Shakespear, Hemingway, and others. I pulled down a book, opened it, and ... all the pages were blank. The friggin' books were just decorative, placed there by the interior decorator, and incorporated into the design of the room in the same way the furniture or the rug was. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Grain is the brushstroke of photography." - Man Ray - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-one-category.tcl?topic_id=35&category=Pe ntax%2067&topic_id=35&category=Pentax%2067 This link has a lot of questions answered http://web.mit.edu/dennis/www/pentax67/lens-info.html This is a summary of Pentax 6x7 lens - Original Message - From: "Michel Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: 6x7 enabled, and questions ... > I have just been enabled with a 6x7 and 105/2.4, but no manual, > so if a PDML member could answer a couple of questions, I'd > appreciate: > > 1 : battery check is OK, but do I need to have film in the > camera to trip the shutter? > > 2 : this camera is supposed to have mirror lock up: where and how > do I lock the mirror up? > > 3 : I remember reading about problems when the prism was being removed > in the wrong sequence: how can I safely remove and reinstall the prism? > > If it makes any difference, the prism is of the non-metered kind. > > The camera says '67' in white letters , with no 'x' between the 6 and 7. Any indication > on how old/recent it is? the first part of the serial number is: 4210xxx, FWIW. > > 4 : was there more than one model of 105/2.4 ? If so, what are the differences? > > 5 : there are 2 buttons on the right side, one on the side near the lens, > the other a small round one that you need a pointed object to depress: what would > they be? > > Thats all for now. I am sure I will think of more questions later... > > Thanks > > Michel > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 6x7 enabled, and questions ...
What you do is actually turn the film counter itself while the back is open: there's a raised little dial in the centre of the counter, spin it to a number, hold it in place, and close the back. Tadaa! Ready to shoot. Congrats on the 67! Welcome to the club. Sounds like you have exactly the same set up I do. :) -Aaron p.s. do you have an LX yet? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Pentax spotting
Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't forget to check what camera Ringo has. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Pentax. My local Pentax service shop has a poster on the wall, featuring the Beatles with Spotmatics. -tih -- The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Kodak Packaging
You read books?! WOW, you ~are~ cool! Norm Shel Belinkoff wrote: > A truly sad commentary. > > True story: Last year my neighbor's brother was visiting him. One > night he stopped by my place for a short visit. He noticed the > bookshelves which contained a couple of hundred books, looked at me, > and asked "Do you read those?" He seemed quite relieved when I told > him they were only decorative. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Avoid Velvia
aimcompute wrote: > > I stopped using it all winter and used Provia 100F pushed 2 stops > to get the easiest shooting conditions for the relatively low light. If you haven't yet, try the new Provia 400F: it's gorgeous, and goes to 800 without any fuss at all, and survives pretty well at 1600. I still haven't put it head to head with the old Provia 1600, so I don't know how they stack up, but I find Provia 400F a little on the grainy side at 1600. At 800, however, it's just plain dreamy. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Pentax spotting
Ernest Alejandria wrote: > Great!!! A fellow Beatles fan on the list. I have to plug in the old "A Hard > Day's Night" tape into the VCR tonight just for the nostalgia. Don't forget to check what camera Ringo has. I'm going to have a second look at Help! tonight (I have it on LaserDisc but not A Hard Day's Night) out of optimism that I might have been wrong about what cameras they have in the Bahamas sequence. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photos of the Weekend :)
This look like our SCA events (Society of Creative Anachronism) There is a lot of photography I do for them. Philippe > > Just beginning the scanning of this past weekend's photo- > expedition back into the 14th Century ala our 2nd Annual > Glastonbury Rennaissance Faire. So far just 4 from the 10 > rolls of 24 I ran through the trusty Pentax SuperProgram > and ME Super w/ the 85mm f1.9 & 24mm f3.5 SuperTaks. These > four are all w/ the 85mm. > > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb/current/curr.html > > ;^) hope you all find them pleasing to the eye :^) > > Bill > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Yosemity park, Tioga pass open?
On Tue, 15 May 2001 00:02:01 -0700, John Mullan wrote: >One of these links should give you the information you want. They are >both updated regularly. > >http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/ >http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/mtnhwys.htm Thanks John (and everybody else supplying the info, IT'S OPEN! :-) Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
E-Bay is getting ridiculous - musical ads
I had a look at a local listing for an ES, Item #1237676745, only to be greeted with a tinny electronic version of "American Pie". Where will it all end? Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Kodak Packaging
Hi, > Very informative, if you read it, about some rather disturbing trends; and > the Kodak packing is only a minor manifestation interesting enough article, but I think the Kodak packaging probably fits under the 'internationalisation' category that the article mentions. There are occasions where graphics are far more useful than natural language: street signs are a good example, which conform to international standards. I wouldn't like to have to learn to read Japanese if I went there just so I could recognise a pedestrian crossing. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Art is a form of play, not to be taken seriously" - Plato - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
