Re: Film development
William Robb wrote: Why is it that photographers expect perfect prints when they have given absolutely no instruction to the printer about what they want from the print? Why is the lab suddenly butchering the job when it doesn't get the picture exactly right the first time? One time I explained it to an unusually rude customer this way: you're paying more not because I'm psychic and will get exactly what you saw in your head onto this paper on my first try without any instructions from you, but because we will sit and look at this print together and you'll tell me what you want different and I'll make another print exactly like that. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film development
- Original Message - From: Eduardo Carone Costa Júnior Subject: Re: Film development So the machine compares your photo to those in that particular film Shirley, right? That makes sense... If you read what I wrote earlier about Ns, is the Shirley related only to that last N that, as I've been told, represents exposure? Or is the Shirley related to all the Ns, I mean, the three color channels plus the exposure channel? The set-up neg is used to adjust the machine's output so that a normal negative will print with all three colour buttons and the density button on normal N. I usually take my stuff to that particular lab only. In fact, I'm pleased about the way they work. Sometimes, when I'm in a hurry, I have a roll or two developed at other labs, only to take it back to my trusted lab to have other prints made... they often look a lot better. So far, I haven't pointed them how I would like one particular image to be developed/printed (lighter/darker), but, after reading all that's been said about it, I'll start telling them how I'd prefer them. I'm sure they won't object, as they have always been very kind towards customers. A good lab will happily redo pictures that you are not happy with, no questions asked. A better lab will tell you when it isn't worth trying, and will tell you why so that you won't make the same mistake again, and then will try to improve on the first run print for you. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ball heads
Go to http://www.speedgraphic.co.uk/pdfiles/p32-33.pdf The 3262 is the 352 and 3413 is the 308. There is a small difference in price in the UK (£4.50). The 3413 is more expensive because it has a larger resin (not plastic - stoopid!) ball and can be dissasembled for cleaning as you say. I would say that the 3413 is easier to fine tune due to the larger ball and less friction. It is also fractionally heavier. Another link is http://www.manfrotto.com/products/index.html?doc_from=profsupp Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 June 2001 14:27 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Ball heads Hi all, I've got a question about Bogen ball heads I'm hoping someone can answer. I've seen both the Bogen 3262QR medium ball head and the Bogen 3413QR pro ball head (IIRC, this is the same as Manfrotto 308RC) discussed on the list. Prices from Adorama for the QR versions are identical, and maximum load capacities for these two heads are also identical. Is there any practical difference between these two heads? I anticipate using this with 35mm equipment on a Bogen 3218 monopod for now, and maybe on a tripod later. Looks to me like the 3413 can be disassembled for cleaning, whereas the 3262 cannot. Also looks like the 3413 ball is bigger, but is plastic instead of metal. Is this correct? Anyone care to share their experiences? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Cokin holders rotate, did you not know this? At 01:29 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. Short of making my own, I dont know if there are any 3rd parties who make such an item. Any help appreciated. Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sticky foam
Loctite makes a low odor, non frosting type super glue sold in their Prism Line. I expect other offer something similar. I've tried it from time to time and it seems to works as advertised. However, as with most of this glue, pretesting before use on critical equipment is always a good idea as is the suggestion of using as little as possible. I find there is a tendency to use much more than is necessary with this type of glue. Best regards, Otis Wright Lon Williamson wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:31:43 -0400, Lon Williamson wrote: Superglue carefully the right size strip in front of your focus screen. Be _very_ careful with super glue (cyanoacrylate glue) in this sort of application. That stuff will emit vapors (outgas) for several days after you apply it, while it's completely curing. The fumes can have a bad effect on some plastics, like frosting Lexan (R) or ABS plastic so it looks translucent, like a shower door. I'm no expert on the stuff, but I've ruined quite a bit of both Lexan and ABS with it. Heck, almost any glue outgasses. Superglue sure does outgas, (lovely odor, btw), but if you use just a tad, and wave the body around a bit for the first several minutes, most of the outgassing is over with. I did attach foam this way, and the screen/mirror were unaffected. I also left the body cap off for a day. To each his own, though. -Lon - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: It's Time To Go
I know I have only been on PDML a couple of months, but I have really learned alot from your posts. Please come back soon. Take care, Rebecca At 10:30 PM 6/4/01 -0700, you wrote: I'll be leaving the list for an indefinite period. I'd like to thank the many good folks who have been helpful to me on a personal level, and for the friendship and kindness you've offered and provided. Special thanks to Bill Robb, Chris Brogden, Yoshi, Ken Takeshita and his niece, Bob Sullivan, Cameron Hood, Bob Walkden, Rob Studdert, Mike Broom, and I'm sure a few others, for their special favors and considerations. I hope my contributions have helped or amused some of you, or given you something to think about. Many of the contributions and contributors to the list have certainly entertained and enlightened. Please keep in touch ... I'll try to do likewise. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It matters little how much equipment we use; it matters much that we be masters of all we do use. - Sam Abell - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June Gallery
Thanks Collin, I havent had a chance to look at the gallery yet. We moved this weekend and I am just now getting the computer back up and going. Still lots of unpacking to do but I am going to try to catch up on my mail here and there while I do it. Rebecca At 08:18 AM 6/1/01 -0500, you wrote: So much good stuff. Just a few comments. Old and New by Rebecca Lane Great job of content contrasts. Good thinking. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Film development
I have been using a lab in my home town for about 8-10 years (Rapid Photo)anf quite often have exposure talks with the owner who is an avid photographer him self.We can sit and talk about what i might be doing right or wrong and what he is doing to help me out.These discussions are educational and enjoyable.I have noticed on occasion,customers will hang around to listen.When he see's my horse shots he knows what i'm trying to do by now and adjust's (unless i tell him not to.) They will always redo prints that they may have boo bood on. If he ever close's shop i don't know what i'll do Regards Dave Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. -- Original Message -- Cokin holders rotate, did you not know this? At 01:29 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. Short of making my own, I dont know if there are any 3rd parties who make such an item. Any help appreciated. Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
[FW:Pentax SuperProgram w/ 4 Lenses + AF280T Flash]
Spotted in rec.photo.marketplace.35mm http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=rec.photo.marketplace Todd Subject: FS:Pentax SuperProgram w/ 4 Lenses + AF280T Flash Date: 5 Jun 2001 11:45:18 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken L.) Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm Pentax Super Program Body w/ original manual Pentax 50mm -1.7 w/caps Vivitar 28-135mm - 3.3/4.5 macro zoom PK/A mount w/caps, 67mm UV filter, manual, soft slip pouch Cosmicar 70-200mm - 4 macro zoom PK/A mount w/only rear cap Lens doubler (2X) w/ caps Pentax AF280T fullt TTL automatic w/ eye sensor - swivel/bounce flash w/ case and manual Camera operates beautifully - gone to digital. No scratches on any lens glass. Very reliable unit. Paid almost $900 new for all above. $450 or BO + shipping [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pushing E100VS and E100SW
Just got my two rolls of pushed film from the Grandfather Mountain weekend and I can report that E100VS and E100SW both seem to push 1 stop very nicely indeed. I'll be scanning them for my Grandfather Weekend web page shortly. I have more film undeveloped. They'll be following shortly. Mark Roberts P.S. For anyone in Rochester I can recommend Park Avenue Photo highly for quality processing, fast turnaround and good pricing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OK - Test Test Test
Test. This is only a test. It's a stinkin waste of time, but it's a test. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Rob Brigham wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. I don't know if I understand you...you're saying you want to have the filter holder clamps on the top and bottom, and the filter inserted from the side, but still have the grad on the top and bottom? How would you adjust it? You could just saw off 2 of the slots on the holder to reduce vignetting. Or you could just hold the filter with your hand directly against the lens...some people do this, but I'm not steady enough tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. I don't know if I understand you...you're saying you want to have the filter holder clamps on the top and bottom, and the filter inserted from the side, but still have the grad on the top and bottom? How would you adjust it? That'd be the achilles heel of this setup; no adjustability. Still might be useful at times. You could just saw off 2 of the slots on the holder to reduce vignetting. Unless you don't want to saw bits of your filter holder. Or you could just hold the filter with your hand directly against the lens...some people do this, but I'm not steady enough I do this all the time with my 20mm/2.8. Never had a steadiness problem when using a tripod. Mark Roberts - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Goodbye LX
We spoke to our supplier in Japan today about the non-appearing screens. They said Pentax no longer supply LX, quoted the discontinue notice (announced recently on Japan website), and mumbled something about Pentax making a huge loss on LX accessories. Nonetheless, we have a back-order with them for the screens, and some other items. They may or may not turn up - you guys will be the first to hear. We unexpectedly have a surplus Pentax 510v Power Pack available. We will turn it over at cost GBP120 inc VAT. Note that you will have to make your own arrangements for the laminate battery pack. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
They are actually square. I guess I am confused becuase normal is top to bottom (or bottom to top) and 90 degrees to that sound left to right to me. Are you asking if there are grads that just run 1/2 the filter? There are some that run 100% and some that run 50%. At 11:11 AM 6/6/01 -0400, you wrote: Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. -- Original Message -- Cokin holders rotate, did you not know this? At 01:29 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. Short of making my own, I dont know if there are any 3rd parties who make such an item. Any help appreciated. Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Hands on..
So, does anyknow know if there are problems running IR through a PZ-1p? I haven't tried IR since the 60s, but keep thinking it might be fun. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S US - who sells them
So who actually has these things in stock for mail order in the US right now? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ball heads
Rob Brigham wrote: Go to http://www.speedgraphic.co.uk/pdfiles/p32-33.pdf The 3262 is the 352 and 3413 is the 308. There is a small difference in price in the UK (£4.50). The 3413 is more expensive because it has a larger resin (not plastic - stoopid!) ball and can be dissasembled for cleaning as you say. I would say that the 3413 is easier to fine tune due to the larger ball and less friction. It is also fractionally heavier. Hi Rob, Thanks for the information -- this was helpful. The ability to disassemble might be a handy feature. Ease of making fine adjustments in positioning is an aspect I hadn't thought of. If I go with a quick-release head, I'll definitely go with the 3413QR/308RC. Now for the chemistry lesson. (I think I can do that since I'm a chemist.) I'm hoping that nobody on the list would be more likely to buy a polymeric component that's described by a salesman as made of resin than one which is described as made of plastic. Resins are cured, hardened, cross-linked, etc. to form plastics. Probably more correct to describe this ball as made of highly cross-linked space-age super-duper wunderbar resin, but it's a plastic ball nonetheless. Probably very good plastic as well -- nothing wrong with that. /Pedantic chemistry lecturer mode off.:-) Have a nice day, Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Sideways ND Grad
The filter is square, but the holder rotates... Jerry in Houston -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. -- Original Message -- Cokin holders rotate, did you not know this? At 01:29 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. Short of making my own, I dont know if there are any 3rd parties who make such an item. Any help appreciated. Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Exactly, As the 35mm frame is a 'wide' rectangle rather than a 'long' one, it would make more sense if the Cokin system had been designed sideways so that I have maximum clearance where I need it. I can do this for plain filters, but the grads should run down the long axis as you say. I can saw off the 'clamps' as others say, but for extra width it is far better to rotate the holder on its side. Even hand holding, the P filters are not always wide enough along the short side to cover the field of view and you may want to hand hold sideways or some of the picture will not be covered by the area of the filter. Why was the filter system designed in portrait rather than landscape format? Does noone make sideways grads? Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 June 2001 16:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. -- Original Message -- Cokin holders rotate, did you not know this? At 01:29 PM 6/6/01 +0100, you wrote: Does anyone know if you can get a Cokin P mount ND grad where the grad runs 90 degrees to the normal? This would allow for the filter to be mounted sideways and have less of a problem with Vignetting on Wideangle lenses. Short of making my own, I dont know if there are any 3rd parties who make such an item. Any help appreciated. Rob Brigham - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. But how would you adjust where the dividing line is? If the grad runs along the long axis, moving it back and forth won't do anything. Might as well get a screw-in. Or maybe I'm not visualizing this correctly? Anyway, if that's what he wants, and can't find one, Singh-Ray does custom orders. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S US - who sells them
OOPS, they list it for sale, but NOT in stock Jerry -Original Message- From: Tiger Moses [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MZ-S US - who sells them So who actually has these things in stock for mail order in the US right now? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Trip Report
Just to throw some proper spin on Tom's report, I offer the following observations: Beware of North Carolinians bearing Diet Dr. Peppers. After failing in his bid to shock any innocent coeds wandering past the creek on the edge of campus by channeling Johnny Weismuller, Tom apparently then decided to catch up on his laundry one outfit at a time. Kodiak, the cinnamon bear, =is= worthy of admiration. My hair looked great, btw. If you ever find yourself on the same program with Tony Sweet, bring your good stuff, and prepare to be humbled anyway. Jeepgirl really has a Jeep. It's not a =real= Jeep, though, because it has an automatic transmission. Brian Setzer works the breakfast shift at the MacDonald's in Banner Elk, NC. Tom and Jeepgirl were married in an earlier life. John DeLoach is a funny guy. Mark Roberts has the oddest New York accent I've ever heard. Must be all that running. On Equipment: This year I didn't destroy any large-dollar lens hoods attached to large-dollar lenses, so I consider the weekend a success, from an equipment standpoint. The MZ-S with BG-10 grip attached seriously kicks ass. I ran several rolls of film through it, and had a good time. Anyone who has ever seen my cameras can tell I don't care much how they look, but the MZ-S/BG-10 with the FA35/2AL attached is one good looking package. All in all, it was a great weekend. I really enjoyed meeting and hanging out with other PDML members, and I think Pentax was well-represented amongst the infidels. We're already working on next year's program, so start planning that time off now. First weekend after Mother's Day. Doug -Original Message- Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 19:42:04 -0400 From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Accept-Language: en To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Trip Report Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Lots of inside jokes snipped -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Hands on..
Thanks Tom! As if it wasn't bad enough that I am starting to get anxious about getting my MZ-S, now I had to be reminded about how great it felt to handle the camera. I am also envious since the rep did not have the grip when I saw it. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S Hands on.. Pål Jensen wrote: Rob wrote: The biggest reason for the MZ-S is build quality although recently there have been some doubts about the sealing of the MZ-S too. AF performance is reportedly also miles ahead of anything Pentax have produced previously... I got to use one for a couple of days over the weekend, and probably put 6 or 8 rolls of film through it. If you were to compare it to the PZ-1p, ZX-5n and 645n, you might say the 'lock-on' speed is a bit faster then the 645n or ZX-5n, which seem pretty similar to me, and much better then the PZ-1p. However, the fact that it has 6 AF points changes the ball game. I find with the PZ-1p and ZX-5n, that I'll misfocus fairly often when I do the lock-on and recompose dance. Just shifting the camera slightly after the AF has locked on is often enough to shift the plane of focus enough to be noticable. I shoot wide open a bunch, so maybe that's why it tends to bother me. This problem is alleviated a good bit with the extra AF points. Other considerations - - The green button rocks. - The grip *absolutely* rocks. There was only one at Grandfather...I had to duct tape Doug into his sleeping bag to get it away from him. - The DOF preview is placed on the little ring around the shutter button. It's very cool. - The shutter has a great sound and doesn't seem to have much lag. - The frame rate didn't bother me. It's just fast enough to feel...fast enough. - The finder seemed fine. - The limited lenses look fine to me on it. - It's small. - It's light. - It's sexy. - It smells good. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Good point, I was being thick. Of course I will want to adjust the horizon level which I would not be able to do the other way around. Mind you you couldnt do that with a screw on ND either! I am just trying to avoid buying an X-Pro system for my wideangle, and having to buy a massively expensive X-Pro Circ Polariser. Disregard my questions, and thanks everybody. Rob Brigham BTW Those that said the filters are square - WRONG! -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 June 2001 17:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but the filters that slide into Cokin holders are rectangular; what he's looking for is an ND grad with the dividing line between light and dark running through the *long* axis of the rectangle. If he rotates a standard ND grad he'll have the left side of the sky dark and the right side light (or vice versa) and this is what he wants to avoid. But how would you adjust where the dividing line is? If the grad runs along the long axis, moving it back and forth won't do anything. Might as well get a screw-in. Or maybe I'm not visualizing this correctly? Anyway, if that's what he wants, and can't find one, Singh-Ray does custom orders. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S US - who sells them
BH is listing the MZ-S date back body in black for 999.95 http://www02.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class Jerry in Houston -Original Message- From: Tiger Moses [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MZ-S US - who sells them So who actually has these things in stock for mail order in the US right now? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format to 35 (WAS: Digital MZ - MR 52 projet still in the air ???)
Pål Jensen wrote: Isaac wrote: Except the fact that the camera/lens combo would be rather awkward because of the larger lenses, no autofocus and stop down metering, there would be no compromises... Seriously though, I can't see many pros putting up with those limitations on a really expensive body, digital or no... I believe most of them will use it instead of a polaroid back. For these applications (checking exposure, light setting etc) a digital slr with MF lenses might be useful For 5 grand?!? You could buy a whole RZ setup with that kind of money. If someone needed polaroid capability, they probably didn't buy Pentax to begin with, and if they did, it would make more sense to invest in a studio camera that has a conventional polaroid (or digital) back. The price of the digital camera would have to come down significantly to make sense as a polaroid replacement... Isaac Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide Angle Lens Dilemma
Francis Tang wrote: I am lucky and am able to use the Cokin P system filters on my A24/2.8, even though Cokin quotes them as being able to go as wide as 28mm only. I don't get any noticable vignetting at about f/11 or f/16 but I haven't really used filters on that lens at wider apertures. Does the vignetting depend on aperture used? Recently I used Cokin P series holder with NG filter on my A24/2.8. I also used Circular Polarizer filter and NG filter simultaneously. Primarily I shot at f8. I have to see whether there is any vignetting. Bye Ramesh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Rob Brigham wrote: I can saw off the 'clamps' as others say, but for extra width it is far better to rotate the holder on its side. Even hand holding, the P filters are not always wide enough along the short side to cover the field of view and you may want to hand hold sideways or some of the picture will not be covered by the area of the filter. What lens is so wide you couldn't hold a P filter against the front and get adequate coverage? Why was the filter system designed in portrait rather than landscape format? Because when you use a grad you want to be able to move it up and down to match the horizon. Side to side doesn't work, unless you have a very soft graduation, and your horizons are always in the middle. Or maybe you've got something else in mind Anyway, a screw-in grad sounds like it would do the same thing as a sideways oriented grad. B+H carries them. There's also a couple of systems like the Cokin, but bigger (Cokin X-Pro or Lee) that might work. The P is 84mm wide, the X-Pro is 130mm. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE:Filters for Pentax 67 55-100 Zoom lens
Does this lens require a thin filter or will a standard work even down to 55mm? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Sideways ND Grad
Rob Brigham wrote: Good point, I was being thick. Of course I will want to adjust the horizon level which I would not be able to do the other way around. Mind you you couldnt do that with a screw on ND either! I am just trying to avoid buying an X-Pro system for my wideangle, and having to buy a massively expensive X-Pro Circ Polariser. Just out of curiosity, which wideangle is giving you problems? Which polarizer are you using for your p holder? Last week I bought a square Tiffen to use with it...haven't gotten anything back yet though. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Hands on..
Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote: Thanks Tom! As if it wasn't bad enough that I am starting to get anxious about getting my MZ-S, now I had to be reminded about how great it felt to handle the camera. I am also envious since the rep did not have the grip when I saw it. The camera is pretty nice without it, but the grip really puts it in a whole other class. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Digital: The next level
I read an article in The New Yorker that mentioned an extraordinary digital camera, and found their Web site: http://www.foveon.net/prod_new.html They make a camera with 3 4-megapixel CMOS detectors, one each for RGB (so, 12 megapixel), which you can snap up for $23,900. Then you have to buy a Canon lens for it. But what is really the amazing thing is the next step: they have a 4000 x 4000 pixel chip (16.8 megapixels) which they put into a prototype camera and gave it to Greg Gorman to try. It can make useful enlargements up to 90 x 90 inches. You can see a picture at: http://www.foveon.net/feature_photo.html Here's what they say: Having worked with film for most of his career,Gorman was very impressed by Foveon's technology. The quality of this [8 foot] blowup far exceeds what you could do on [35mm] film, stated Gorman So when this all finally costs $1000, that should be the end of 35mm, no? JJ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Trip Report
Brewer, Doug wrote: Jeepgirl really has a Jeep. It's not a =real= Jeep, though, because it has an automatic transmission. Plus it's yellow, and has tweety bird floor mats. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Trip Report
Cool to see PDML people getting together. That must have been fun! In my trip to Italy last May my wife and I got to meet Flavio and Gianfranco. In both cases we clicked immediatly (either that or they were polite enough to make us feel that way :-), and we spent some most excellent time together. Great way to make new friends and to put a face on the names you see every day! j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Hands on..
Tom, Quit it! I was already getting the MZ-S and planning on the grip. When is it coming in Is it here yet? Is it here yet? Is it here yet? My local shop has no clue when to expect it. I guess I will just immerse myself and get lost in my LXs, César -Original Message- From: tom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S Hands on.. Matamoros, Cesar A. wrote: Thanks Tom! As if it wasn't bad enough that I am starting to get anxious about getting my MZ-S, now I had to be reminded about how great it felt to handle the camera. I am also envious since the rep did not have the grip when I saw it. The camera is pretty nice without it, but the grip really puts it in a whole other class. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital: The next level
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what they say: Having worked with film for most of his career,Gorman was very impressed by Foveon's technology. The quality of this [8 foot] blowup far exceeds what you could do on [35mm] film, stated Gorman So when this all finally costs $1000, that should be the end of 35mm, no? JJ Maybe 5 years from now And we will have to buy a new one every oe or two years because, as all kind of computers/electronics today, it will became obsolete. Alex -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital: The next level
It still only produces a 4 mega pixel image from 12 mega sensors. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Digital: The next level I read an article in The New Yorker that mentioned an extraordinary digital camera, and found their Web site: http://www.foveon.net/prod_new.html They make a camera with 3 4-megapixel CMOS detectors, one each for RGB (so, 12 megapixel), which you can snap up for $23,900. Then you have to buy a Canon lens for it. But what is really the amazing thing is the next step: they have a 4000 x 4000 pixel chip (16.8 megapixels) which they put into a prototype camera and gave it to Greg Gorman to try. It can make useful enlargements up to 90 x 90 inches. You can see a picture at: http://www.foveon.net/feature_photo.html Here's what they say: Having worked with film for most of his career,Gorman was very impressed by Foveon's technology. The quality of this [8 foot] blowup far exceeds what you could do on [35mm] film, stated Gorman So when this all finally costs $1000, that should be the end of 35mm, no? JJ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Sideways ND Grad
tv wrote: Just out of curiosity, which wideangle is giving you problems? I too have this problem with following combination. Tokina 20-35mm (At 20 mm) + Circular Polarizer Filter(Hoya) + Cokin P Holder. With the above combination I can see the edges of the holder in the view finder. So, I was forced to use 24mm instead of 20mm. I do not exactly remember the size of Circular Polarizer Filter, it's either 77mm or 72 mm. Thanks Ramesh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S IR film
If it's anything like Nikon's system, most IR films will fog only by the sprocket holes, and the image inself will be fine. Someone will have to run a test roll or two. Todd At 11:47 PM 6/6/01 +0200, you wrote: If the camera manual states that the camera uses IF rays to count the sprockets of the film for transport it means that you cannot use an IF film in it. It is unfortunate but theoretically improves the eveness of spacing between frames and defies film transport errors. Anyway Pentax users should be happy that IF control of film transport found the way into Pentax cameras that late - Canon users have been all too familiar with that problem for quite a while. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: K bodies, stepless shutter
He was using the fact that camera *was not* syncronizing right. The sync speed is 1/60. So go into a dark room with the flash. Fire it at 1/60 and 1/125. The 1/60 should be evenly lit, and the 1/125 will only be half lit. Now fire the shutter between 1/60 and 1/125 - and if more than 1/2 but not all of the frame is lit, you know it has a stepless shutter. BTW, as far as I can tell, the KX has a stepless shutter. Todd At 11:25 PM 6/6/01 +0200, you wrote: Just out of curosity: how did you test shutter speeds that your camera is unable to synchronise properly with a flash? I am not negating the results; I just cannot imagine what that results of this test looked like to give you grounds for stating that the shutter is stepless. Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa³ / wrote: A while back I posted a question about K body shutters. I wanted to know if, for example, you set a shutter speed between 60 and 125, if you'd get a speed in-between. The other day I used a flash to test. I shot a white wall with flash at 60, about 100, 125, about 175, 250, etc. all the way up to 1000. Results show that my KM has a stepless shutter above 60, and I'm pretty sure it does below 60 because these speeds are slow enough to hear differences. I assume the K1000 and KX use the same mechanism, so you K body folks out there might want to adjust the shutter speed dial in between sometimes to get a half stop or thereabouts compensation. And - a completely different subject - the other day I bought an Ebay Cosina 28-70 constant f 2.8 in KA mount. Just couldn't help myself. The only zoom I have in that range is the Tak 28-70 KA. And now, of course, I wanna know AFTER the fact if this lens is any good. lol. Anyone ever use this puppy? - Lon Williamson - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S IR film
In a message dated 6/6/2001 6:11:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the film for transport it means that you cannot use an IF film in it. It is unfortunate but theoretically improves the eveness of spacing between frames and defies film transport errors. Anyway Pentax users should be happy that IF control of film transport found the way into Pentax cameras that late - Canon users have been all too familiar with that problem for quite a while. A friend of mine who uses an EOS1n (otherwise he is a pretty nice guy) shoots Kodak HIE frequently. The sprocket area fogs, but the negatives are unharmed. Ed M. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S IR film
Jaros³aw Brzeziñski wrote: If the camera manual states that the camera uses IF rays to count the sprockets of the film for transport it means that you cannot use an IF film in it. It is unfortunate but theoretically improves the eveness of spacing between frames and defies film transport errors. Anyway Pentax users should be happy that IF control of film transport found the way into Pentax cameras that late - Canon users have been all too familiar with that problem for quite a while. Actually what it really means is that you should try it and see, they can make no gaurntees. I've seen many a rebel owner succesfully shoot IR film with just the sprocket holes fogged. Others weren't so lucky and some of the image area became fogged. Its certainly worth burning a roll to test... Isaac - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ball heads
Bill, I'm not familiar with either of the heads you mention, but I have experience with resin vs metal ball. A few years ago I had a Bogen 3038, a great (big ball) head for a reasonable price. It was fine for several months. I eventually noticed the movements getting progressively notchy/sticky, making it very tedious to make the little fine adjustments often needed. I kept it clean and tried to work with it. One day in the field I ran into another photographer with an older 3038. The ball on his was metal, mine was resin. I called Bogen in New Jersey and found out that the resin was a recent change in the 3038. They were simpathetic about my issue and wanted to send me another 3038, but couldn't state that the notchiness wouldn't evidence itself in the new one. After some thought, I requested and received a full refund and promptly bought a Kirk Ball Head for about twice the price! Hope this helps. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Ball heads Hi all, I've got a question about Bogen ball heads I'm hoping someone can answer. I've seen both the Bogen 3262QR medium ball head and the Bogen 3413QR pro ball head (IIRC, this is the same as Manfrotto 308RC) discussed on the list. Prices from Adorama for the QR versions are identical, and maximum load capacities for these two heads are also identical. Is there any practical difference between these two heads? I anticipate using this with 35mm equipment on a Bogen 3218 monopod for now, and maybe on a tripod later. Looks to me like the 3413 can be disassembled for cleaning, whereas the 3262 cannot. Also looks like the 3413 ball is bigger, but is plastic instead of metal. Is this correct? Anyone care to share their experiences? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital: The next level
In a normal digital camera with a single CCD, each of the state pixels (3.3, 4 MP, whatever) captures only a single color. A typical arrangement thus is: Row 1: GRGRGRGRG... Row 2: BGBGBGBGB... Row 3: GRGRGRGRG... Row 4: BGBGBGBGB... and so on. In order to fulfill the need for a 3 color component for each pixel in the final image, neighboring sensor color values are combined (there are various algorithms to do this) to form a 3 color pixel. No, in order for this to not produce digital artifacts such as color fringing of high contrast edges, the image on the CCD is slightly anti-aliased, by either or both methods of slightly defocusing the image, or in software later. The end result is that there is a loss of detail. Scanners on the other hand, have 3 rows of sensors: Row 1: GG. Row 2: BB. Row 3: RR. With this, the G row is exposed, and then a micro step is done (either the CCD or the film/print), and the B is exposed for the same position on the image, and then microstepped again to expose the R row. In practice, all 3 are exposed simultaneously, but for different rows of pixels on the image, thereby pipelining the operation such that 3 rows of pixels are getting another color added before the CCD moves along the image to the next pixel row. Fuji has an odd arrangement of hexagonal array CCD sensor elements, and actually produce more fictitious image pixels, and claim a picture pixel output higher than the CCD sensor count itself (while each CCD sensor is still a single color). Hope this helps. Gerald - Original Message - From: Alexandre A. P. Suaide [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Digital: The next level Let me understand If one digital camera (say Nikon coolpix 990) produces images with 2048 x 1536 pixels it corresponds to something about 3 megapixels, right? So, If what you are saying is correct, the CCD sensor of this camera has about 9 megapixels, because each of the pixels is obtained from a red, green and blue component (you are saying that each pixel is one color and the final pixel is the mix of three sensor pixels). In your affirmative, a 3 megapixel camera gives in the end only a one megapixel resolution, right? Alex Michael Nosal wrote: At 12:35 PM 6/6/01 -0700, you wrote: It still only produces a 4 mega pixel image from 12 mega sensors. Yes, but with it each channel gets a full 4 megapixel's worth of info. Other sensors may have 4 mega pixels, but 1/3 are red, 1/3 are green, 1/3 are blue (often the ratio isn't 33% for each color, as the sensitivity of some channels is greater than others.) This will produce a way better image than a single 4mp sensor. Michael Nosal [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- --- Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department University of Sao Paulo - BrazilPhone: 1-313-577-5419 Wayne State University - MI -USAICQ number: 78139605 --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital: The next level
From: Joe Urmos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hold that thought, and take a look at this item on fashion photographer Joseph Cartright (once you get by the ego and posturing, there are some interesting points about digital studio photography): Lotsa stuff snipped... I think that if any place digital is taking over is in product/studio photography where the efficiency of the process has distinct advantages over film (after all ,time is money). So a $24k digital camera is probably a bargain in that business. Cartright makes some good points. But he's also expended a great deal of money, time, and energy into color calibration and intergrating his workflow into using digital technologies. He works in a fast-paced, high-end environment. I argue, however, that he fills a small niche market. For every Cartright, there are hundreds of other product photographers whose clients don't require such fast-paced results and don't have the budget to pay for a photographer that spends $100K on equipment. That all of sudden, seeing his light 1 minute and 50 seconds sooner allows him to nail his light in minutes as compared to hours or days seems rather exaggerated. I would argue that it seems odd he hasn't translated his years of experience into creating his lighting setup more efficiently. Perhaps I should refer him to Shel VBG Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Hands on..
Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, does anyknow know if there are problems running IR through a PZ-1p? I haven't tried IR since the 60s, but keep thinking it might be fun. Joe Hi Joe, I've run three or four rolls of Ektachrome Infrared through my 1p last year and everything was fine. Gianfranco Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June PUG
Bill thanks for the specific comments on my image Taos View. I guess I'll just have to go back and shoot some more. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: June PUG Taos View by Ken Waller is my second choice. I like the texture of the wall and the simplicity and graphic qualities of the composition. I would have gone back and done it again when the sun was a little lower in the sky to really stretch those shadows out This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June PUG Thoughts
Thanks for the comment. I am honored by it. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: June PUG Thoughts . My favorite this month: Taos View by Ken Waller, Michigan, USA A strong image. Great tight composition. Leaves one wanting to see more. This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Sideways ND Grad
i have the tokina 19-35 zoom. i had to buy a polerizer.made for extrame wide angle lenses. it is 77mm size and cost $90.00 from bh . it is a tiffen. there no vignetting in my lens. tv wrote: Just out of curiosity, which wideangle is giving you problems? I too have this problem with following combination. Tokina 20-35mm (At 20 mm) + Circular Polarizer Filter(Hoya) + Cokin P Holder. With the above combination I can see the edges of the holder in the view finder. So, I was forced to use 24mm instead of 20mm. I do not exactly remember the size of Circular Polarizer Filter, it's either 77mm or 72 mm. Thanks Ramesh - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Last PUG
I appreciate you kind comments and am glad to know you liked it. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Last PUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Waller,Taos View. I just like this much. I forgot to include Taos view among my preferred images this month, but I have an excuse: there are a lot of good photos this month, and I am too lazy to type long messages to the list. But I must say that this is one of the strongest images this month, and I like it very much. I am not very keen on polarizing filters, and I haven't used them too much in the last few years, but this time the filter has helped to improve this excellent photo. -- Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zaragoza (Aragon) - Spain -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: New B/MF Head
I was in Cord Midwest the other day and saw the new (at least I've never seen it before) 410/3275 head. It's a 3-pivot-point design and is geared. The gears have hand grips for hand control. They turn smoothly. Somewhat small to grip but still useful. There's also a clutch on each of the 3 gears to allow release for long-range movement. Finally, there's the quick-release plate. As the number suggests, it's the 3271 flat plate -- the same that mates to the 3270 flat base. It's pretty solidly built. $169 @ Midwest. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: June PUG
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 6, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: June PUG Bill thanks for the specific comments on my image Taos View. I guess I'll just have to go back and shoot some more. Ken Waller I bet that will be a real hardshipG. William Robb Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up. Please see: http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html for more information. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S Data Imprinting
I developed some tri-x from this weekend. As I was filing it, I saw some funny exposure blotches along the edges. Hey, that there's data imprinting! So, here's a scan: http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/mzs-data.jpg That's Doug...Jeepgirl and Jessie are in the background. There will be more to follow. The lens is the 31mm wide open. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: SFX InfraRed
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:29:20 -0800 From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SFX InfraRed Aaron wrote: You may want to try Ilford's SFX film. Kodak's HIE IR has no anti-halation layer, which adds to the problem (but also produces neat-o characteristics in the images), where SFX does. I have several customers who have used SFX in newer Canons with no problem. Of course, SFX is not as sensitive to IR as HIE, and produces a different (and a little less exotic) final image. It's quite nice, tho'! Bill Wrote: The Ilford SFX is just an extended red sensitivity and barely gets out into true IR wavelengths from what I have gathered. I hear it is an off-shoot from the traffic monitoring films. If you attempt using much more effective filtration than a regular red or their filter - you won't get much onto the film. IMO, the SFX fails to qualify as an infrared emulsion. Stick w/ the Kodak HIE or the Konica 750nm for real InfraRed. The Konica peaks its sensitivity at ~750 nanometers whereas the Kodak runs well out into the 900's. The SFX drops off somewhere just past ordinary red wavelengths. sfx200 peaks at 720nm extending to740nm. Some nice IR effects are possible with a #70 or 89B filter. It is not like Kodak HIE, but IMHO is nice in its own look. The 89B is the strongest IR filter that sfx200 can handle. Anything stronger will not work. BTW, I use my K 1000 w/ handheld meter for IR. Konica with 25 and 89B filters and Ilford with the 89B filter. The 25 is too weak for the Ilford. My infrared gallery has some examples of Konica w/ 25 filter. I willsoon be adding some SFX photos. Keith Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.dave-world.net/~vkzimm/gallery5.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: SFX InfraRed
- Original Message - From: Keith Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: SFX InfraRed This Eric in Utah and I have a silly question for the pdml. The two manual cameras that I own are the P3t and ZX-M and my question is; which camera would handle IR film better as to not get the blury stuff or leaking? If a K-1000 and the ME do just fine I would guess it's due to the solid bodys or am I wrong on that too? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SFX InfraRed
Eric Platt wrote: This Eric in Utah and I have a silly question for the pdml. The two manual cameras that I own are the P3t and ZX-M and my question is; which camera would handle IR film better as to not get the blury stuff or leaking? If a K-1000 and the ME do just fine I would guess it's due to the solid bodys or am I wrong on that too? I'd try the P3t if it was my choice. The problem in the thread up to this point has been fogging by IR emitting sensors in the camera body. I think these are associated w/ auto-winding bodies. The P3t, if it is like the P30t I once had, is still a manual wind body and I doubt that it would have these sensors. If the little film window bothers you, tape it over w/ aluminum foil covered w/ electrical tape. Do this before loading the film and be sure to load unload in complete darkness. Don't let anyone develop the film unless they are familiar with and equipped for handling it entirely in complete darkness. Lots of processors also use IR sensors - don't let them take the film out of the plastic film can in the light, either! This is for the Kodak HIE Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Data Imprinting
Nice bokeh. William Robb - Original Message - From: tom Subject: MZ-S Data Imprinting I developed some tri-x from this weekend. As I was filing it, I saw some funny exposure blotches along the edges. Hey, that there's data imprinting! So, here's a scan: http://bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/mzs-data.jpg That's Doug...Jeepgirl and Jessie are in the background. There will be more to follow. The lens is the 31mm wide open. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
