Re: Inspection of Camera Gear at Airports
I travel with camera gear as part of my job. Have just been advised that if you have any electrical devices with batteries installed in checked luggage, this will lead to additional searches/delays. Was told to remove all removable batteries from all devices if they are going to be checked. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Inspection of Camera Gear at Airports > This question was posed on another list, and I thought I'd toss it out > here as well, especially since there may be more frequent and complete > inspections in the near future. It's been reported that some > inspectors have even removed lenses from camera bodies, removed the > lens caps, and looked through the lenses, as well as opening the backs > of cameras, etc.: > > > > Prior to boarding the plane, at the gate, > > > we were again put through the metal detector, > > > and all hand luggage was hand inspected. > > > > As an aside to the point of your post, I have a question. > > Basically, what if your "gear" is damaged during the course > > of inspection. Who pays for the damage? > > > > I've ALWAYS been nervous about just "handing over" my > > [expensive gear] to someone who "does not care for it > > the way I do" (I tried to say this as nice as I could), > > and say they drop it...somehow damage it...the consequences > > to me are quite high...it could ruin an entire trip or > > business deal. > > > > Anyone ever have any experience with damage in this manner? > > If so, what was the resolve? > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Slide Mounts
Albano, Wow! This is REALLY an expensive hobby for you!! (and I thought things were pricy here) With that scenario, I'd get the better quality frames, too, and maybe a second job to pay for them ;-) Gracias! (My best , if weak, shot at a language other than my own) Bill Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 19, 2001 9:18 AM Hi, Bill. Here in Argentina, when you buy a roll of slide film, it doesn't includes the processing. So, you have the price of the film (from 4 usd of CT Precisa to 16 usd of Velvia. This prices are from a big retailer. If you buy them in your photo store, they cost between 25 and 50 percent more). Then, you have the price of processing (7 usd for processing, and about 12 usd for processing plus framing). But they use crappy cheap frames, so I prefer to pay just for processing and then mount them myself in my dear Gepe frames. I pay 8 usd for a box of 100 frames (they cost 12 to 14 in photo stores) It's no extra cost, I pay about the same, or less than having them mounted, but I obtain better frames, and I'm sure an idiot don't cut one of my slides by error (the only possible idiot damaging them is myself) Regards Albano PS: They can easily be written and re written with a common pen (and pencils too) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Piezography
Piezography, essentially, is a set of black/graytone inks which replace the colored inks in an Epson printer. The inks are available at http://www.inkjetmall.com/store/piezographyBW.html and there is information there as well. MIS is their primary competitor from what I have read, and there are (of course) arguments as to which system is better, though MIS is apparently substantially less costly. If you are seriously interested, there is a newsgroup devoted to B&W printing called Digital B&W which you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint The website also has uploaded files and information which may be of help. Maris - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 9:22 PM Subject: OT: Piezography | Normally, I would not have brought this up here. But, in light of some of | the current topics I thought I'd go ahead and ask my question. I've seen in | the back of Shutterbug magazine ads for kits to convert your Epson Photo | printer into a B&W "Piezography" printer. First question, what exactly is | "Piezography?" Second question, has anyone tried these conversion kits? How | well does it work? What do the prints look like? I am not asking for a | comparison between a Piezography print and a trad darkroom print. Is there a | better way to digitally print B&W at home? Thank you for your replies. | | Nick Wright | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
At 09:30 PM 9/19/2001 -0300, you wrote: >Tom, > >The PZ-1p manual states that the RTF flash range is from ISO 25 up to 800 >(page 125). On the other hand, the AF500FTZ declares a maximum ISO speed of >1600 (page 31). >I believe that if I set the film speed at the body to 3200 and dial -2 stops >at the flash compensation for the RTF flash or -1 stop for the AF500FTZ, as >David suggested, I should get properly exposed photos. Try it and see. If it doesn't work, you'll get overexposed shots...which generally look ok. You'd have to compare the actual negs to make sure. >What do you mean by: > > > Could be, though I suspect the camera just can't quench the flash fast > > enough. In TTL flash operation the camera actually sends a signal to the flash to turn it off when the flash meter determines that the flash has discharged enough light. In other words, the flash is on until the camera turns it off. I'm saying that it's probable that the camera can't turn the flash off in time to avoid overexposure. >I think I'll go the distance and get two or three more rolls and see for >myself what works better... :-) That's probably a good idea, I didn't try testing it that way. I guess I figured it would be too complicated for me in actual use. Let us know what happens. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
September PUG - Irlanda
Well, I had hoped to get my last couple of critiques done early last week, but events were such that I really didn't feel up to it. So, in the spirit of "better late than never", I intend to finish off with my last two tonight, starting with: Gianfranco Irlanda, "Summer Storm" Wow! I love it! Everything about it speaks to those first few hectic moments of a storm when everything is helter-skelter. That feeling is reinforced by the non-horizontal horizon, the fact that the front of the lead scooter is cut off, and just a little bit fuzzy. It appears (and is probably the case) that the photographer is basically in the same situation as the subjects. It doesn't surprise me, Gianfranco, that you took the image in the way that you did, probably with one hand on the camera, and the other on the steering wheel. The riders of the scooters are still trying to shelter themselves from the rain, as evidenced by the driver trying (in vain, no doubt) to shield himself with a t-shirt or towel. They are obviously in a hurry to reach their destination, or at least a shelter, and one gets the feeling that they may be driving somewhat recklessly to that end. It would appear that no one here was prepared for what was apparently a quick summer deluge, and you've captured that feeling beautifully. I don't think that my little critique has done this dynamic image justice. It seems to break all the rules, but works in spite of, or perhaps because of that. Thanks for it! -frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
September PUG - Bill Peifer
Last image for this month: Bill Peifer, "Tyshaun: A Memorial" The subject matter of this image is quite moving, but were it not for the description, I really wouldn't have known what this was about. I can't read the white sign, but maybe that's the scan, and it's much sharper in the original print. To be honest with you, Bill, when I first looked at it, I thought that the objects hanging on the fence was laundry or something. Then, upon closer inspection, before reading your description, I thought maybe it was some sort of a yard sale or something - I just couldn't make out what's hanging there. The graffiti on the sidewalk, other than the "I love you T.Y." (which could be anything) really doesn't add much to the meaning of the image. The image seems very cluttered to me; so much happening that it's hard to focus in on any one thing to get a feel for what's going on. I really hate to dump on your image this way, but I have to be honest about how the image moves me. It simply doesn't "stand on its own" and tell a story in and of itself, imho. Maybe that's not a fair criticism, but the ability of an image to speak in and of itself is important to me in this type of a gallery, and I just don't feel that. I think that perhaps seeing the image displayed as a photo essay, along with a number of the other images that you took of the memorial would have been very effective, but alone, well, I'm just not sure... regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike Johnston wrote: Shakespeare probably got the historical reference from > Holland's translation of Suetonius. Or quite possibly from Plutarch's Lives, which was the historical source of many Shakespearean plots. Plutarch wrote, "Some say, he (Caesar) opposed the rest , and continued struggling and crying out, till he perceived the sword of Brutus; then he drew his robe over his face, and yielded to his fate." Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Piezography
Normally, I would not have brought this up here. But, in light of some of the current topics I thought I'd go ahead and ask my question. I've seen in the back of Shutterbug magazine ads for kits to convert your Epson Photo printer into a B&W "Piezography" printer. First question, what exactly is "Piezography?" Second question, has anyone tried these conversion kits? How well does it work? What do the prints look like? I am not asking for a comparison between a Piezography print and a trad darkroom print. Is there a better way to digitally print B&W at home? Thank you for your replies. Nick Wright - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Anand wrote: > what is "Et tu" ? It means "You too?" (literally, "and you") in Latin. According to Shakespeare it was what Julius Caesar said to Brutus after Brutus had mortally stabbed him. Shakespeare probably got the historical reference from Holland's translation of Suetonius. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX flash question
Thanks Steve and William. I was thinking about something wrong when it happened to only one LX, but all acting the same way... My first LX was purchased in 1997 and I never noticed that... probably because for daylight flash work I usually switch to other cameras. You never stop learning... Thanks again, Gianfranco __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash
Yes, I've seen those. Honestly, I was hoping that I could find one for a little less than that... for the price they're asking I should just spend a little more and get a new one. Thank you. Nick -- >From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash >Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2001, 7:17 PM > > Nick, > > There are four used ones on KEH right now. Take a look at > http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=PK&cid=21&sid=newused&crid=2299812 > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash > > >> No thanks, I'd rather not deal with international shipping. Thank you >> though. >> >> Nick >> >> -- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Subject: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash >> >Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2001, 2:44 PM >> > >> >> > Hi Nick >> > I just saw one in a UK magazine. Please answer if you want address. >> > Jens > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Latin - translated it is "and you" Generally used in reference to Caesar who is reputed to have said "Et tu, Brutis" - colloquially, 'even you, Brutus' Maris - Original Message - From: "Anand DHUPKAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post | what is "Et tu" ? | | | >From: "Robert Wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | >Subject: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post | >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:41:39 -0400 | > | >Mike wrote: | > | >"Personally I'm extremely surprised by my own reaction to trying | >digital." [A long description of the wonders of digital snipped to avoid | >offending the guy who hates inclusion of long excerpts in reponses.] | > | >Have you tried McDonald's food? I think you'll find it really exquisite. | >And have you ever driven a Ford F-150? These things corner like a dream! | > | >All I can say is "Et tu?" | > | >Rob | > | >_ | >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | >- | >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | > | | | _ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
I meant to say, "I covet the A," not "I cover the A." Although if I had one, I would cover it. Right now, I just covet it. Paul Doug Franklin wrote: > > Hi Frits, > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. W*thrich wrote: > > > Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable > > price for it? > > I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've > never tried one. Right now, there are a couple on Keh's web site. > They range in price from US$484 for excellent condition to $616 for > excellent plus condition. > > TTYL, DougF > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX flash question
- Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" < Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: LX flash question > Hi everybody, > > Maybe some LX owner could help me to understand the strange > behaviour of my various LX when the AF280T is on the camera. > What happened is that the camera refused to fire the flash in > daylight. It happened for something like 7 shots, then I quit > taking pictures thinking of a faulty thing. > Back home, I tried the camera, same settings (A, flash on TTL, > in vertical position, lens on f/4,5), and the flash fired. > Moving around my room I framed the lamp under the ceiling and... > no flash. Only when I closed the aperture to a value that > allowed the camera to chose a speed under 1/60 (I think 1/50, > the working speed in TTL flash) then the flash fired again. > All my LX cameras and both my AF280T act this way. > Is it normal? > I always thought that the camera wouldn't bother about the > amount of light in the frame when in TTL mode. > Does this mean that there is a sort of Auto flash mode in the > circuit that controls the flash, or what? > > Thanks in advance. The camera will not trip the flash in TTL Auto unless there is a full stop difference between the ambient illumination and the amount of light the camera is actually allowing to hit the film. If you cover the small contact on the left (I think) side of the hot shoe with a piece of tape, you can defeat this "feature". It is the only thing I don't like about the LX. OTOH, it saved my first one from being worn out shooting weddings, which is a good thing. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Doug Franklin wrote: > > Hi Frits, > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. W*thrich wrote: > > > Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable > > price for it? > > I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've > never tried one. They're considerably more desirable than the SMC version in that they have auto aperture and a far shorter minimum focus distance. I have the SMC version, and it's a very nice lens, but I cover the "A." A very nice one went for $400 on ebay a few weeks ago, but I'm having to watch my pennies at the moment. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Digital Darkroom: Was Digicams and 35mm
Mike Johnston wrote: > Do I love S800 color prints MORE? No way. > > But I like them a lot. And I'm having a lot of fun learning how to do them. > That's probably the key word to my whole experience of digital: FUN. It's > just an enormous kick. Truly a blast. I'm really, really enjoying myself. I can understand that. I enjoy darkroom work, but I've also become a huge fan of the digital darkroom. I don't start with digital exposures. I start with hi-res (60 Meg) scans of color transparencies. But I love working on them in PhotoShop and printing them on my Epson 1200 inkjet. The results are very rewarding. And while we're on the subject of the digital darkroom, I wanted to mention that I've found a paper that I really like. It's called Ilford Fine Art, and it prints with spectacular brilliance and color saturation on the Epson 1200. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Film Advice
I would stay with the Fuji 400 and/or try out Kodak Supra 400 - the RG 1000 does not look to hot. Maris - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: More Film Advice | Howdy, folks, | | Well, I'm going to the Petit le Mans at Road Atlanta again this year. | I need some advice on film that will help me get the "brake rotors | glowing at night" images. Last year I used RG 1000, and wasn't | completely pleased with it. Does anyone out there have a favorite | color print film for this sort of thing? Some examples of the shots | I'm trying to get are | | http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans98/PetitLeMans20.jpg | http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans98/PetitLeMans21.jpg | http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Audi-Night-1.jpg | http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Viper-Night-1.jpg | http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Viper-Night-2.jpg | | The last three are RG 1000; the first two are Fuji 400. The last two | weren't really night but it was deep dusk, and they're overexposed in | the print. I don't know enough about evaluating the negatives to know | if they're overexposed in the negatives, too. | | TTYL, DougF | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (snip) > People have started sending me e-mails that are .doc file > attachments...it's hard to tell them that I really don't want to shell > out for Word (MS Office is $800-ish Canadian last time I checked) just > to read their e-mail. Usually they respond that I should just copy it > from someone, I gently point out that it would be illegal to do that and > I'd never consider running pirated software on my work machines. > (snip) Although I am a PC user my IBM box shipped with Lotus SmartSuite, and while Lotus Word Pro can open .doc files the graphics content doesn't always load successfully. So I downloaded "MS Word Viewer" from the Microsoft download site. I don't know if a Mac OS version is available but it may be worth a look. Regards, Anthony Farr - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
what is "Et tu" ? >From: "Robert Wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post >Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:41:39 -0400 > >Mike wrote: > >"Personally I'm extremely surprised by my own reaction to trying >digital." [A long description of the wonders of digital snipped to avoid >offending the guy who hates inclusion of long excerpts in reponses.] > >Have you tried McDonald's food? I think you'll find it really exquisite. >And have you ever driven a Ford F-150? These things corner like a dream! > >All I can say is "Et tu?" > >Rob > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX flash question
Hi Gianfranco, That`s what my LX does also, so I think it`s a normal behavior. When there is enough light it won`t fire the flash in TTL, if you need fill flash, take it off of TTL. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: LX flash question > Hi everybody, > > Maybe some LX owner could help me to understand the strange > behaviour of my various LX when the AF280T is on the camera. > What happened is that the camera refused to fire the flash in > daylight. It happened for something like 7 shots, then I quit > taking pictures thinking of a faulty thing. > Back home, I tried the camera, same settings (A, flash on TTL, > in vertical position, lens on f/4,5), and the flash fired. > Moving around my room I framed the lamp under the ceiling and... > no flash. Only when I closed the aperture to a value that > allowed the camera to chose a speed under 1/60 (I think 1/50, > the working speed in TTL flash) then the flash fired again. > All my LX cameras and both my AF280T act this way. > Is it normal? > I always thought that the camera wouldn't bother about the > amount of light in the frame when in TTL mode. > Does this mean that there is a sort of Auto flash mode in the > circuit that controls the flash, or what? > > Thanks in advance. > > Gianfranco > > PS: I've found a Hotshoe Adapter F. According to the > instructions of the cable I already own it cannot be used with a > flash on it, at least when the cable is attached to the adapter. > Anybody tried to mount a flash on the adapter and another via cable? > > __ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Answers to Shel's many questions
Shel asked: > What is it that you like about the look of the prints? I like the color purity especially; I like the surface of the ink on the Epson Archival Matte paper, which I think is lovely; and I like the softer contrast range and better shadow detail. > Do you like > them more than a wet print? Than wet color prints, yes, I have to say, although that's maybe too broad a generalization. It simply makes color as controllable, or more so, than tones are in traditional b&w printing. I think it liberates creativity in color like no traditional color method can even touch. > Are you printing in color or B&W? Color. > How > large are you making the prints? I'm printing only on letter-sized (8.5 x 11) sheets. This is the tradeoff I made when I decided to try this, mainly to limit the expense. Most of my own prints so far are smaller image area prints (typically up to about 6x8, most smaller) made on vertically-oriented sheets of letter-sized paper. I think full 8x10 image size is getting a bit borderline with 3 megapixels with the moderate JPEG compression I use, although they look pretty good at that size. Of course there are utilities such as Genuine Fractals that allow you to "extropolate upwards" to make better-looking larger prints from smaller files. If you want to make full-sized 11x14 prints or somewhat larger, I'd probably recommend one of the new 4- or 5-megapixel cameras such as the just-announced Nikon CoolPix 5000. Even a 5-megapixel camera and a 12-wide printer aren't terribly expensive--the Nikon is about $1.1k, and the printer (Epson 1280) is $600. Of course you can spend more if you want to. > Have you compared a well-printed B&W > photo to a digitally made print, same size, same subject, same light? No, I haven't. They're different media...I'm not asking or expecting digital to either duplicate or replace 35mm. > For those of us living in caves, what's the "green dot" and how does > that relate to making a photograph? It's the focus confirmation indicator. It appears as a bright green LED in the viewfinder window. You can see it clearly using either viewing method. It means that focus is locked on. With focus locked, the shutter lag of this camera is about 200ms, or a fifth of a second, which is about the same as a slower SLR (for comparison, a Canon EOS-1n is 60ms, and a Leica M6 is 18ms). I find it tolerable. Without focus locked, the lag can be a whole second or longer, which I find intolerable. > So, how do you get a more selective DOF? > What if you want just a > small area in focus and lots of out of focus area in front of or > behind the subject? Use a different camera? D.o.f. is significantly increased for the same apertures compared to a 35mm SLR. >Can you set the focus between two subjects, where > there is essentially nothing to focus on? I haven't felt the need to do such a thing yet...with any AF camera I just know where I want the plane of focus to be placed, and I simply find something at that distance and lock focus on that and then recompose. If there really is nothing at that distance, there is a "manual focus" mode on my camera that allows you to manually set any focus distance from 8 inches to infinity in very closely-spaced steps (the scale has reference markers at 8, 16, 24, and 31 inches, and 2,8, 6.5, 10, and 16 feet, but the settings are much finer than that), but it's not a "native" mode for the camera and I haven't used it yet. Setting manual focus requires going into a menu and making the sitting using a toggle switch, It's relatively simple, but it's not something you'd do on every single shot no matter how dedicated you were. > Can you control the > aperture yourself and see what's in focus, or does the camera decide > aperture and focus for you? Either way. This camera has aperture priority, manual, shutter priority, or program modes. You set A, S, or M default in the menu and then can quickly switch between program and your chosen mode using the main dial. Of course you can fairly easily reprogram your mode as you shoot, too. You can see exactly what's in focus because the LCD screen on the back of the camera is WYSIWYG. If it's too small and you can't really discern sharpness or exact focus, you can check it after you take the picture by going into "review" mode and zooming in on any area of the picture you just took to see it more clearly. The zoom is about a 4X. This is mainly for checking focus to see if you got what you wanted or need to reshoot. > Here again I question the value of great DOF when shooting macros. Possibly, but my admittedly limited experience so far is that too little d.o.f. is as much a problem in macro photography as too much, and this makes it easier to get better d.o.f. while still using wide apertures. There's still a lot out of focus in macro mode, of course. > Not that it's never a good thing, but can you control it? You can control it by selecting different apertures, same as with 35mm, but you can't get
Re: Film advice needed
Tom, The PZ-1p manual states that the RTF flash range is from ISO 25 up to 800 (page 125). On the other hand, the AF500FTZ declares a maximum ISO speed of 1600 (page 31). I believe that if I set the film speed at the body to 3200 and dial -2 stops at the flash compensation for the RTF flash or -1 stop for the AF500FTZ, as David suggested, I should get properly exposed photos. What do you mean by: > Could be, though I suspect the camera just can't quench the flash fast > enough. I think I'll go the distance and get two or three more rolls and see for myself what works better... :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX flash question
Hi everybody, Maybe some LX owner could help me to understand the strange behaviour of my various LX when the AF280T is on the camera. What happened is that the camera refused to fire the flash in daylight. It happened for something like 7 shots, then I quit taking pictures thinking of a faulty thing. Back home, I tried the camera, same settings (A, flash on TTL, in vertical position, lens on f/4,5), and the flash fired. Moving around my room I framed the lamp under the ceiling and... no flash. Only when I closed the aperture to a value that allowed the camera to chose a speed under 1/60 (I think 1/50, the working speed in TTL flash) then the flash fired again. All my LX cameras and both my AF280T act this way. Is it normal? I always thought that the camera wouldn't bother about the amount of light in the frame when in TTL mode. Does this mean that there is a sort of Auto flash mode in the circuit that controls the flash, or what? Thanks in advance. Gianfranco PS: I've found a Hotshoe Adapter F. According to the instructions of the cable I already own it cannot be used with a flash on it, at least when the cable is attached to the adapter. Anybody tried to mount a flash on the adapter and another via cable? __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More Film Advice
Howdy, folks, Well, I'm going to the Petit le Mans at Road Atlanta again this year. I need some advice on film that will help me get the "brake rotors glowing at night" images. Last year I used RG 1000, and wasn't completely pleased with it. Does anyone out there have a favorite color print film for this sort of thing? Some examples of the shots I'm trying to get are http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans98/PetitLeMans20.jpg http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans98/PetitLeMans21.jpg http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Audi-Night-1.jpg http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Viper-Night-1.jpg http://jehosephat.home.mindspring.com/PetitLeMans00/Viper-Night-2.jpg The last three are RG 1000; the first two are Fuji 400. The last two weren't really night but it was deep dusk, and they're overexposed in the print. I don't know enough about evaluating the negatives to know if they're overexposed in the negatives, too. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash
Nick, There are four used ones on KEH right now. Take a look at http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=PK&cid=21&sid=newused&crid=2299812 Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash > No thanks, I'd rather not deal with international shipping. Thank you > though. > > Nick > > -- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash > >Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2001, 2:44 PM > > > > > Hi Nick > > I just saw one in a UK magazine. Please answer if you want address. > > Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash
No thanks, I'd rather not deal with international shipping. Thank you though. Nick -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash >Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2001, 2:44 PM > > Hi Nick > I just saw one in a UK magazine. Please answer if you want address. > Jens >> >> Fra: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Dato: 2001/09/19 Wed AM 05:45:44 CEST >> Til: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Emne: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash >> >> I would like to purchase this model of flash, if someone has one they're >> willing to part with please contact me off-list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> -- >> Nick >> www.wrightfoto.com >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> >> > > - > WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.dk > - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"
"Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote: > > Isn't there a free reader for .doc files available from Microsoft? I agree > people shouldn't send you .doc files though. Do they work for MS? Dunno. I've found some shareware that'll do it, but why in the heck should I have to? They don't work for MS, just companies that are infected with MS products. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
Aaron, I first decided to give this film a try because I wanted to be able to shoot some interior photos on dim lighted places without being intrusive. I would like to avoid the use of flash if possible. The first time I tried this kind of photo, using T400cn, I only managed to get 1/15 sec. and f 2.8. I suppose that by using ISO 3200 film I would be able to handheld at 1/60 sec and f4. This is the photo I mentioned; http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/eccarone/vwp?.dir=/Images+of+the+week&.dnm=Nearby +Bar.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t Do you believe that by setting the ISO down to 1600 I would get more details in the dark areas? Thanks for sharing you knowledge. - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Film advice needed > tom wrote: > > > Above that I start losing shadow detail, and I don't like the way the > > grain looks. > > > > This is a personal choice. There are folks, (Aaron comes to mind) that > > regularly shoot it faster. > > I've shot it as high as 12,800, but it does lose most of its dark detail > up there. At 6400 ISO I've had good (and grainy) results when > processing in Microphen and Studional. > > An important thing to remember when shooting fast black and white film > in a dingy bar or under similar conditions: cut your film speed in half > to compensate for the colour of the lights, because b&w film is less > sensitive to red than the rest of the spectrum, and most bars are lit by > tungsten light, which is very red. So, if you are shooting 3200 speed > film, set your ISO dial to 1600. If you're pushing it to 6400, set your > ISO dial to 3200. > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF converter together with AT-X 100-300?
I've never used this combination, but do own both the older, one-touch ATX 100-300 f4 and the 1.7 AF converter. I just tried the combo with both the Mz-S and a Pz-20 body. AF works but at the 300 end of the zoom the AF rand is limited. You would have to manually focus to within about 1 meter of the required focus distance, and then the AF adapter could pick up the rest of the focusing. Note that I was focusing on a lamp in my living room (its dark outside right now). I was pretty close to the minimum focusing distance and the amount of manual focusing may be much less at further distances. This seems to be a basic limitation of the AF adapter. When you get into longer focal lengths it just does not have the range for focusing that you need. But a comibination of rough manual focusing with the adapter picking up the difference works fine. I did not take any actual pictures to test the quality of this combo. I have tried using my ATX with teleconverters, and have not been happy with the results. I'll also break from the consensus here and say that I don't consider the 1.7 AF converter to be all that good. When I combine mine with a 50mm f1.4, point it at a bright shiny object in the sun, and de-focus I see all sorts of wild rainbow / prism patterns. This is consistent with different lenses. But, I may have a bad sample. Hope this helps! - MCC At 09:01 AM 9/19/01 +0200, Erik wrote: >I have an opportunity to buy a 1.7 AF converter (from another PUG member >here in Sweden, by the way - guess who). The obvious use for it right now >would be together with my MZ-3 and the Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 MF zoom (great >lens, by the way). Anybody got any experience from that particular >combination? > >I know the converter is specified to work with lenses from f2.8, but that >some f4-lenses also work fine. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But I like them a lot. And I'm having a lot of fun learning how to do them. > That's probably the key word to my whole experience of digital: FUN. It's > just an enormous kick. Truly a blast. I'm really, really enjoying myself. Well there it is Mike! That's your problem! You're having fun and that's simply not allowed around here... Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Crazy Canadians
Have you seen this one? BIN for $13 and the shipping is $15. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1276557093 -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Request for comments, criticism on posted image
Len Paris wrote: > If the title is "Cosmic Fire" the picture link is broken. Hi Len, Seems a couple of list members had this problem with the last Photocritique posting I put up. If you go to the Photocritique homepage, then look in the "Abstract" category, you should be able to find my photo. Thanks, -- Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FW: NASA Photo Tonight
They use Bulb! ;-) Martin (looking for 4 dozens of candles) -Original Message- From: Mr. Wm Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: Re: FW: NASA Photo Tonight Um, Call me stupid (not you William Robb), but wouldn't it be kinda hard for a single candle to outlight the light produced by everyones patio lights? It would seem to me that it wouldn't be enough to be able to see a difference from the normal photo's . . . Illionois Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Frits, On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: > Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable > price for it? I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've never tried one. Right now, there are a couple on Keh's web site. They range in price from US$484 for excellent condition to $616 for excellent plus condition. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Ball Point Pens & Pencils (Was Re: THE NEW PENTAX)
Hi, it was while I was working there that the new building was announced. It took about 20 years to fund and build. I recently got myself a reader's ticket so I can use the reading rooms, which is a real pleasure. It's a great place to go to study, and the building and facilities are superb. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 19, 2001, 2:03:40 PM, you wrote: > Bob: > Having visited the British Library in February, I'm certain that they were > indeed able to supply even the most arcane of tomes. The new Library is quite > an impressive place. The statue of Newton was not only immense, but inspiring, > and the room with all the ancient documents was one of the highlights of our > trip. The "virtual book" where you can leaf though digital versions of > precious manuscripts was fascinating, as well as the "Juke Boxes" that played > famous speeches, poems and words, as well as historic music. We went on the > evening it's open late, Tuesday I believe, and were almost alone (with the > guard) in the room with the Magna Carta, Gutenburg Bible and other rare > manuscripts. The tower of books in shelves was also a wonder. Quite an > impressive place, and all free! You should be proud to have been associated > with such an institution. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Mag azine"
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:57:15 -0400, Mick Maguire wrote: > True Confession: I am a Windows software engineer by profession. (ducks for > cover!) So am I. Well, I'm doing embedded stuff now, but I made my living on Windows development (mainly servers, device drivers, and other high-reliability, low-level code) for almost 20 years. > I see and hear people doing Microsoft down all the while, I wont say whether > I think it's justified or not, but keep these points in mind: Without going into the whole long, messy story, Microsoft is the only company that has ever tried to get me fired for reporting a bug in their product. No kidding. And it really was a bug in their product, I had the proof, and I followed normal channels for reporting it, quite politely, with all supporting documentation included. I got to listen in on the speaker phone while my boss told one of their VPs (might have been Ballmer, it was about 1985) to blow it out his tailpipe. :-) I guess you can tell there's no love lost between me and the hordes from Redmond. :-) > 5. I know that Microsoft weren't and aren't pleased with Windows 95 98 98SE > or ME. to be blunt internally the company thinks these are poor products and > wishes nobody used them. Consumer demand created all of them from 98 on, MS > wanted to ditch the 95 technology years ago as the NT technology which ended > up as w2000 was far more stable. Microsoft allowed consumer demand to "create" the 9x/ME products because they couldn't get reasonable performance on games in NT or support for the specialized gaming devices, like force-feedback joysticks and steering wheels. "Common" consumers (not IT pros or developers or people like that) demand games. This point cannot be laid at the feet of the consumers. If MS feels these to be poor products then they have no one but themselves to blame for it. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FW: NASA Photo Tonight
Um, Call me stupid (not you William Robb), but wouldn't it be kinda hard for a single candle to outlight the light produced by everyones patio lights? It would seem to me that it wouldn't be enough to be able to see a difference from the normal photo's . . . Illionois Bill "Lindamood, Mark" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Ratkiewicz, Ken > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:58 AM > > Subject: NASA Photo Tonight > > > > Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from NASA: 10:30 EASTERN > > TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has asked that > > everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle. They > > will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the U.S. and posting > > it on the news tomorrow morning. > > Please pass this on to as many people as possible. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S is 100th AF SLR on market.
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen Subject: Re: MZ-S is 100th AF SLR on market. > Jeff wrote: > > > I don't know if this has been discussed or not, but Pop Photo has reported > > that the MZ-S is the 100th AF SLR to hit the market since the introduction > > of the Minolta Maxxum 7000 in 1985. > > > Why on earth would anyone start counting from the Minolta 7000? By 1985 the AF SLR had been on the market for four years. Minolta was a latecomer to AF. Perhaps they are starting the count from the ones that actually were viable AF cameras. The ME-F and T-80 were not commercially successful. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
"David A. Mann" wrote: > > You might be OK if you dial in -2 stops of flash compensation. Or manually > set to 800ISO and -2 stop exposure compensation instead. Could be, though I suspect the camera just can't quench the flash fast enough. It gets a little confusing if you read both manuals. The PZ-1p says something to the effect that ttl flash is possible up to ISO 800. The AF5000FTZ manual, IIRC, says something to the effect that ttl flash is possible up to ISO 1600 with the PZ-1p. I vaguely recall doing a test and thinking it worked up to 800... tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Alkaline vs. Lithium flash cycle times LONG
I have only done a few informal test of alk vs. the NIMH in flashes and the performace is very noticable, the alkaline batteries will recharge the flash faster for 20 full power flashes then they take longer and longer, the NIMH kept consistanly 4-5 sec recharging right up untill they died. I know you should not use rechargables in long term slow/low use stuff like smoke alarms, remotes, light meters. For me I will keep alkalines in the Fg due to the fact rechargables loose their charge about a 2 weeks of non use. For flashes since they eat batteries having the 1 hr recharger and car charger I always have fresh batteries, that and I notice that some alkaline batteries just plain suck in flashes. Most long lasting alks are slow charging but last almost forever, most photo grade alk's recharge faster but don't last long or are as expensive as lithiums. Flashes since they eat batteries rechargables are cost effective, I went thru 12 AA batteries in one night and they still powered a remote after but won't charge the flash, with me using 10 rolls of flash work every weekend the cost of even cheap AA's gets outrageous since I needed to swap alkalines every other roll to keep rcharge times up, the NIMH lasts almost the whole night. --- Robert Wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, all- > > In the recent discussions concerning the value of > the AA Battery Pack FG for > ZX/MZ series cameras - the use of which, by the way, > I recommend highly on > the basis of greatly improved handling in what I > consider to be under-sized > and under-weighted cameras incapable of otherwise > balancing even medium > telephotos of large aperture - I noticed no > reference to the issue of flash > cycle times, which seems to me an important > functional consideration, and > which I recall was a selling point of lithium > battery technology. Does > anyone have any detailed information comparing flash > performance amongst > various battery technologies, such as alkaline, > lithium, and perhaps > nickel-cadmium or nickel-metal hydride batteries in > terms not of total > lifespan, but only of recycle times? Secondly, was > either of those a run-on > sentence? > > Rob Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S is 100th AF SLR on market.
Jeff wrote: > I don't know if this has been discussed or not, but Pop Photo has reported > that the MZ-S is the 100th AF SLR to hit the market since the introduction > of the Minolta Maxxum 7000 in 1985. Why on earth would anyone start counting from the Minolta 7000? By 1985 the AF SLR had been on the market for four years. Minolta was a latecomer to AF. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Mag azine"
Richard Klein writes: > I upgraded it to 512MB RAM and a 40GB hard drive and it crashes every week > or so. I think it's the new memory modules, but I haven't messed around > with it too much yet. A couple of years ago at work they upgraded my group's PCs from 32 to 64Mb (Oracle apps is a dog). One guy's machine must have had an incompatibility of some sort with the new memory and started freezing up several times a day requiring a reboot every time. The helpdesk's response? "Have you tried rebooting?" > My work PC runs Win NT 4 with 128MB and crashes once or twice a year. I have an old 486 with Linux which serves as a general file/print server, web cache internet gateway and a little software development. It went down last Friday due to a power cut, after just two years eight months and three days continuous uptime. I'm not really disappointed though because now I can put in a 56k modem and some more hard disk space without feeling guilty :) > The most common software is going to be > the target of the most viruses no matter who makes it. There are some basic precautions you can take to limit their spread. Anything that auto-executes an attachment is bad news, and any system that gives any old software unrestricted access to system files is even worse. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike Johnston wrote: > I would imagine that now we're going to get into a theoretical argument > about resolution, based on numbers. I've never cared for--or given much > credence to--any of that kind of nonsense. I look at pictures. If it looks > good, it is good. If it looks like crap, I don't care how many numbers say > it doesn't--it does. Indeed! It amazes me how many people on photo lists look at the numbers garnered from test results and make buying decisions based on those numbers. Most of the time they don't even know how those numbers were arrived at. As an example, Erwin Puts, the Leica Lens Maven, has been writing about the optical qualities of various lenses for a long time, even comparing lenses, but I've never seen a photograph showing the qualities and differences that he discusses. Yet he is held in high esteem by numerous Leicaphiles - FEH! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
tom writes: > 3200 seems plenty grainy to me. That's the number on the box, so why not > give it a shot? See what it does at that EI, and if you want to > experiment some more you'll at least have a base to start from. I've shot it at 12,800 (ie pushed two stops). Yeah it gets grainy :) > Bear in mind that if you're using ttl flash, Pentax cameras/flashes > can't go up to 3200. I believe the PZ-1p says it can only handle ttl > flash up to 800. You might be OK if you dial in -2 stops of flash compensation. Or manually set to 800ISO and -2 stop exposure compensation instead. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Off again
I´m off to Latvia for some days so I´ll unsubscribe. So it does not mean I´m offended by somebody´s posts. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Film advice needed
Thanks Tom and Aaron.I was going to pose this query soon my self.Some friends play in a Blues band and are going to play the local fair next week and i was planning to use a roll of the Ilford Delta 3200 if possible.(is it available at the big stores like Henry's etc?)They will be indoor with probably better than average bar lighting plus their own. I also want to shoot a roll of colour.What do you suggest? Something around asa1000 i imagine. Aaron,i think a previous post you mentioned you shot at about a 60th or 30 sec at wide open.Is this about right. I have a monopos which i will take with me and use.I'll probably use the SF-1 35-70 and or K1000 35-80 Thanks for the help guys Dave Begin Original Message From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:00:09 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Film advice needed : cut your film speed in half to compensate for the colour of the lights, because b&w film is less sensitive to red than the rest of the spectrum, and most bars are lit by tungsten light, which is very red. So, if you are shooting 3200 speed film, set your ISO dial to 1600. If you're pushing it to 6400, set your ISO dial to 3200. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ont Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Alin wrote: >Sorry Mike, to me narrow dof is a big loss. And please don't tell me >you can fix that in Photoshop. Alin, I'm not trying to talk you out of your own methods. Honest. We all use what we need and choose. All I can talk about are my own experiences, and that's all I'm doing. I wouldn't dream of presuming to say one person's methods are "wrong" and another's "right." If you can't get the results you want with one method and choose another, who am I--or who is anyone--to criticize? > MJ> MACRO work is laughably easy--the camera has a "macro mode" and the d.o.f. > MJ> is so great that it allows virtually "macro snapshooting." Bokeh is > superb. > > Bokeh? What bokeh can you possibly get at such high dof? Really, > I thought the limited series defined bokeh here. Now we're supposed > to give up to this and other insignificant features like sharpness, > resolution, just for the sake of convenience. Frankly, I don't see > anything else in your argumentation besides it's so easy. If you'll look again, I was talking there about macro shooting, where you certainly do get bokeh. You also get it in portraits where the lens is set to a longer focal length and the background is further away. The whole head is in focus, though, not just part of it, and the background blur is not so extreme. And who says you give up sharpness and resolution? In fact, I'm getting comments from non-photographers about how "clear" the pictures are which in my experience seldom happens with any sort of photography (non-photographers just don't care about the things we photographers concern ourselves about). As far as the image is concerned, they can be plenty sharp. In fact, you control the amount of sharpness or blur. One of the many great features of Photoshop is the Unsharp Masking controls. I used to joke with Howard Bond that he was one of the few photographers who could make unsharp masking pay, because he sold multiple copies of his prints for hundreds of dollars each, so it made sense to spend the hours of hard work needed to make unsharp masks. In Photoshop anybody can do the same thing in seconds. When you add blur, it's like adding spherical aberration to the lens, or any one of a number of soft-focus filters. And you do this after the fact, without corrupting the original data. With film, you're locked into whatever soft focus filter you select when you shoot. Try shooting a picture with a soft-focus filter and then going back after the fact and making a sharp picture out of it! Another great control in PSE is called "fill flash." You can select shadow areas--even with very complicated outlines--and up pops a slider which allows you to selectively lighten that area to whatever degree you choose WITHOUT losing contrast. Wh! I tell you guys, this shit is a BLAST. I would imagine that now we're going to get into a theoretical argument about resolution, based on numbers. I've never cared for--or given much credence to--any of that kind of nonsense. I look at pictures. If it looks good, it is good. If it looks like crap, I don't care how many numbers say it doesn't--it does. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: Let's Pray
Hi Bob I agree that we/you must fight terrorism. With all means available that doesn’t hurt innocent people. What I don’t want is annother “wholy war” against muslims or the arab world. In my country – God help us – some parties have already suggested that all muslims shold be sent “home”! That my friend is also very, very tragic! The wholy war has already started in some peoples heads! It seems mr. Bush already has shown a more subtle approach to fighting terrorism, than it seemed a few days ago. Of cource Nato/we will asssist you as far as we can. But is it really possible to pinpoint the responsible and punish them and only them? Regards Jens > > Fra: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dato: 2001/09/18 Tue PM 11:41:17 CEST > Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Emne: Re: Re: OT: Let's Pray > > Yes, damn right, and I agree with my president, but sorry, I don't get how this >relates to > the question. Again... > > What has Bin Laden said that he wants? Please try not to leave anything out so as to >make > him seem more acceptable. You don't think we've heard it from his own lips, but we >have. > Again... Surely your version will be without bias. > > Separate question. Now, exactly what do you think the United States should do about >the > three acts of terror resulting in the loss of more than 5000 lives now. Now >remember, I > didn't ask what the US shouldn't do. > > Ignore them? > Apologize because most of the people in the towers were able to escape so that we > could not learn our full lesson? > Apologize for all past indiscressions and hold a day of national suicide to ride >the > world of our nastiness? > Send a diplomat over to say "Naughty, naughty! Grown up nations don't act like >this?" > > Exactly what would be your response if the situation was reversed? What if some >disaster > from the same folks who brought this last disaster is visited upon your country? >What if > it happens simply because your country is a member state of NATO or simply because >your > nation has described this disaster as brought by evil men whereas they believe it is >a > holy thing? > > Give me a break! There will be retribution and the ability of terrorists to wage >their > "war" on this scale will be eliminated. > > Generally, turn about is the essence of fair play. (If you say it's ok to do what >you do, > well then, we agree.) What if the US picks symbols the terrorists hold dear and >clear them > to the ground? We won't do that, but what if we do? You'll get mad? And then what? >You'll > destroy the US? What do you think the US (or any other country) would do? Do you >think any > country will allow itself to be laid waste and wiped from existence without using >the best > weapons in it's arsenal? > > Arrogant? Damn right. I'm sure you can find some better words too. Then I'll agree >with > you that we're (whatever description you think will be insulting). Then what? 225 >years > ago we gave up caring what the nations of Europe thought of us. > > Keep in mind, there is no place in the Middle East that we've been that we weren't > invited, or that we didn't ask first except Iraq. We went at the request of Kuwait >and > Saudi Arabia. > > Regards, > Bob... > --- > "In the carboniferous epoch > we were promised perpetual peace. > They swore if we gave up our weapons > that the wars of the tribes would cease. > But when we disarmed they sold us, > and delivered us, bound, to our foe. > And the gods of the copybook headings said, > 'Stick to the devil you know.' " > --Rudyard Kipling > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hi > > You see - that's the kind of arrogance I'm talking about! I saw/heard Mr. Bush on >CNN > say that he would - make no mistake - hunt down and punish the responsible! Didn't >you? > > Jens > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.dk - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Sv: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash
Hi Nick I just saw one in a UK magazine. Please answer if you want address. Jens > > Fra: "Nicholas Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dato: 2001/09/19 Wed AM 05:45:44 CEST > Til: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Emne: WTB: Pentax AF 500 FTZ flash > > I would like to purchase this model of flash, if someone has one they're > willing to part with please contact me off-list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks! > > > -- > Nick > www.wrightfoto.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - WebMail fra Tele2 http://www.tele2.dk - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Hi Tom ... yes, I was talking about print quality, not the subject or composition of his photos. And yes, you're probably correct in assuming that Mike knows a bit about what makes a quality print, however, we all have different standards and preferences. I've spent some time with a photographer who has had numerous covers, and the technical work (print quality, sometimes lighting, sometimes exposure) was terrible. Yet his pictures captured the spirit of the people he photographed quite well, and some, from that POV, were exceptional. And to put my comments in perspective (because we all know how critical I can be) the photographer even said a lot of his work was pretty poor from a technical standpoint. So, we'll wait and see. tom wrote: > Well, this is probably true. I guess I'm making an assumption. However, > it's based on the fact that he's run a b+w lab, edited a darkroom > magazine, looked at thousands of prints that were all assumed by their > submitters to be their best work, and has publicly stated he's a very > good printer. > > I guess he could have faked his way this far, but I'll give him the > benefit of the doubt. > > Btw, we're talking about print quality, not whether he takes good or > interesting photos. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: City lights (was: NASA Photo Tonight)
Skofteland, Christian wrote: > > Are these candles? > > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg Nah. That's a thousand points of light. Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > The interesting aspect of Mike's post > > is that he's an avowed and > > accomplished darkroom freak who really > > seems to like the output he gets > > from a middle of the road digital camera. > > Since I've never seen Mike's prints, and don't know what he considers > a quality print to be, I can't get too excited when he says that the > prints he gets from this camera and his post-exposure setup is of > excellent quality. Being an "avowed darkroom freak" doesn't mean that > one's capable of producing high quality work. And, just to be clear > on this, I'm not suggesting that Mike's work is of poor quality, it's > just that none of us (to the best of my knowledge) has seen any of his > photography. Well, this is probably true. I guess I'm making an assumption. However, it's based on the fact that he's run a b+w lab, edited a darkroom magazine, looked at thousands of prints that were all assumed by their submitters to be their best work, and has publicly stated he's a very good printer. I guess he could have faked his way this far, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Btw, we're talking about print quality, not whether he takes good or interesting photos. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Request for comments, criticism on posted image
Bill, If the title is "Cosmic Fire" the picture link is broken. Len --- -Original Message- From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:46 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Request for comments, criticism on posted image Hi all, Just posted an image on Photocritique.net, and I'd greatly appreciate any comments or criticisms. This was one of the ones I was considering for submission to the coming month's PUG, since it fit the Elements theme so well. However, I'll be submitting a different photo to PUG that I like a little better. The link is listed below. http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?00ntOn Thanks in advance, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Inspection of Camera Gear at Airports
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Anyone ever have any experience with damage in this manner? > > If so, what was the resolve? Didn't Mafud have a story about the destruction of one of his beloved Super Programs at the hands of a customs officer? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
tom wrote: > Above that I start losing shadow detail, and I don't like the way the > grain looks. > > This is a personal choice. There are folks, (Aaron comes to mind) that > regularly shoot it faster. I've shot it as high as 12,800, but it does lose most of its dark detail up there. At 6400 ISO I've had good (and grainy) results when processing in Microphen and Studional. An important thing to remember when shooting fast black and white film in a dingy bar or under similar conditions: cut your film speed in half to compensate for the colour of the lights, because b&w film is less sensitive to red than the rest of the spectrum, and most bars are lit by tungsten light, which is very red. So, if you are shooting 3200 speed film, set your ISO dial to 1600. If you're pushing it to 6400, set your ISO dial to 3200. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Alkaline vs. Lithium flash cycle times
Hello, all- In the recent discussions concerning the value of the AA Battery Pack FG for ZX/MZ series cameras - the use of which, by the way, I recommend highly on the basis of greatly improved handling in what I consider to be under-sized and under-weighted cameras incapable of otherwise balancing even medium telephotos of large aperture - I noticed no reference to the issue of flash cycle times, which seems to me an important functional consideration, and which I recall was a selling point of lithium battery technology. Does anyone have any detailed information comparing flash performance amongst various battery technologies, such as alkaline, lithium, and perhaps nickel-cadmium or nickel-metal hydride batteries in terms not of total lifespan, but only of recycle times? Secondly, was either of those a run-on sentence? Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Robert Wetmore wrote: > And have you ever driven a Ford F-150? > These things corner like a dream! Have you ever driven an Aston Martin? Those things can't carry 4x8 sheets of plywood worth a shit! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Confessions of an old timer
Sheesh! What a low-life comment, even if it was made in jest. It so happens that a few list members here use, or have used, Canon gear, and one in particular comes to mind. While he gave up his Canon equipment because it didn't suit him, he's far from scum for having used it. And who knows, perhaps one day you'll need a specialized piece of gear that's produced by Canon, and you too will become scum. Robert Wetmore wrote: > > Shel Wrote: > > "Those on the list who use Nikons, Leicas, view cameras, Minoltas, and > the like, would not consider such use to be a "low action"." > > True. But I'm sure we can all agree that the Canon users amongst us are > scum. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
City lights (was: NASA Photo Tonight)
> -Original Message- > From: dave o'brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Jeez, this is a list of photographers and no-one thought that maybe > some candles couldn't actually drown out city lights? Are these candles? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
tom wrote: > soon you'll be able to mount all > your Pentax lenses on an MZ-D. > You'll be able to manually focus and > expose to your heart's content. When I see it, I'll believe it. I know that there are those who swear it's coming, and I hope it does, and that it's a well-designed camera. But it ain't here yet. > The interesting aspect of Mike's post > is that he's an avowed and > accomplished darkroom freak who really > seems to like the output he gets > from a middle of the road digital camera. Since I've never seen Mike's prints, and don't know what he considers a quality print to be, I can't get too excited when he says that the prints he gets from this camera and his post-exposure setup is of excellent quality. Being an "avowed darkroom freak" doesn't mean that one's capable of producing high quality work. And, just to be clear on this, I'm not suggesting that Mike's work is of poor quality, it's just that none of us (to the best of my knowledge) has seen any of his photography. > It's quite surprising and should give you > pause to think. An *average* digital p+s > has the former editor of Darkroom Techniques > gushing over PRINT QUALITY. I did think - see above. > Again, the proof is in the prints. Absolutely. Mike has promised to send me some prints, and I promised to comment on them publicly. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Request for comments, criticism on posted image
Hi all, Just posted an image on Photocritique.net, and I'd greatly appreciate any comments or criticisms. This was one of the ones I was considering for submission to the coming month's PUG, since it fit the Elements theme so well. However, I'll be submitting a different photo to PUG that I like a little better. The link is listed below. http://www.photocritique.net/g/s?00ntOn Thanks in advance, Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike wrote: "Personally I'm extremely surprised by my own reaction to trying digital." [A long description of the wonders of digital snipped to avoid offending the guy who hates inclusion of long excerpts in reponses.] Have you tried McDonald's food? I think you'll find it really exquisite. And have you ever driven a Ford F-150? These things corner like a dream! All I can say is "Et tu?" Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Confessions of an old timer
Shel Wrote: "Those on the list who use Nikons, Leicas, view cameras, Minoltas, and the like, would not consider such use to be a "low action"." True. But I'm sure we can all agree that the Canon users amongst us are scum. Rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > So, how do you get a more selective DOF? What if you want just a > small area in focus and lots of out of focus area in front of or > behind the subject? Can you set the focus between two subjects, where and Alin said: > Bokeh? What bokeh can you possibly get at such high dof? Really, > I thought the limited series defined bokeh here. Now we're supposed > to give up to this and other insignificant features like sharpness, > resolution, just for the sake of convenience. Frankly, I don't see > anything else in your argumentation besides it's so easy. It seems to me that a lot of these questions have to do with the *particular* camera Mike has. Those questions are valid, but possibly irrelevant in light of the fact that soon you'll be able to mount all your Pentax lenses on an MZ-D. You'll be able to manually focus and expose to your heart's content. The interesting aspect of Mike's post is that he's an avowed and accomplished darkroom freak who really seems to like the output he gets from a middle of the road digital camera. It's quite surprising and should give you pause to think. An *average* digital p+s has the former editor of Darkroom Techniques gushing over PRINT QUALITY. A year ago I wouldn't have believed it possible. Again, the proof is in the prints. tv (who will quite happily spend 4 hours in the darkroom tonight making fiber 11x14's) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
"Eduardo Carone Costa Jr." wrote: > > Thanks, Tom. > I had never used any film faster than ISO 800 before, and I don't know > exactly what to expect from this one. > Why do you rate it at "only" 1250? Above that I start losing shadow detail, and I don't like the way the grain looks. This is a personal choice. There are folks, (Aaron comes to mind) that regularly shoot it faster. I just find it doesn't work for me, and I tend to use TMAX 3200 when I want a fast film. OTOH, all the shops in my area were out of TMAX 3200 last week, seemingly due to shipping problems, so I had to shoot a wedding on Neopan 1600 on Saturday. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Inspection of Camera Gear at Airports
This question was posed on another list, and I thought I'd toss it out here as well, especially since there may be more frequent and complete inspections in the near future. It's been reported that some inspectors have even removed lenses from camera bodies, removed the lens caps, and looked through the lenses, as well as opening the backs of cameras, etc.: > > Prior to boarding the plane, at the gate, > > we were again put through the metal detector, > > and all hand luggage was hand inspected. > > As an aside to the point of your post, I have a question. > Basically, what if your "gear" is damaged during the course > of inspection. Who pays for the damage? > > I've ALWAYS been nervous about just "handing over" my > [expensive gear] to someone who "does not care for it > the way I do" (I tried to say this as nice as I could), > and say they drop it...somehow damage it...the consequences > to me are quite high...it could ruin an entire trip or > business deal. > > Anyone ever have any experience with damage in this manner? > If so, what was the resolve? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5/28mm
Hi Ken ... These lenses are all excellent and should fit your needs: K or A 15/3.5 (although my experience with it is very limited) K24/2.8 K35/3.5 K85/1.8 A*85/1.4 K105/2.8 K135/2.5 A*135/1.8 (also very limited experience with this lens) A*200/2.8 Ken Archer wrote: > > It seems like I have been trying to wear this lens out lately. The > quality, sharpness, color, etc., is great. I can't take every picture > with a 28mm lens, however. What other K-mount manual focus lens > (Pentax or third-party) are on par with the SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5/28mm? > I would use primes or zooms as long as they compare favorably. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S is 100th AF SLR on market.
I don't know if this has been discussed or not, but Pop Photo has reported that the MZ-S is the 100th AF SLR to hit the market since the introduction of the Minolta Maxxum 7000 in 1985. The story is here: http://www.popphoto.com/Camera/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=51 Jeff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: NASA Photo Tonight
Regardless of whether or not it's a hoax, I got this same notice from someone else yesterday that said it was scheduled for last night, so I think we've missed the boat. -Rich Skofteland, Christian wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lindamood, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from > > NASA: 10:30 EASTERN > > > TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has > > asked that > > > everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light > > a candle. They > > > will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the > > U.S. and posting > > > it on the news tomorrow morning. > > > Please pass this on to as many people as possible. > > Does anyone have the OFFICIAL request from NASA? > > Thanks. > > Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: NASA Photo Tonight
Skofteland, Christian wrote: > > Does anyone have the OFFICIAL request from NASA? Just visited the NASA web site and can find no mention of it there. Looked at list of press releases and no release on this subject. Bob Harris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5/28mm
It seems like I have been trying to wear this lens out lately. The quality, sharpness, color, etc., is great. I can't take every picture with a 28mm lens, however. What other K-mount manual focus lens (Pentax or third-party) are on par with the SMC Pentax-M 1:3.5/28mm? I would use primes or zooms as long as they compare favorably. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike Johnston wrote: > Personally I'm extremely surprised by my own reaction to trying digital. Yes, you seem like a kid let loose in a candy store with a gold card > What has caught me completely by surprise is that I find I love it. I love > PICTURES--I love exploring the look of the world with a camera, the > serendipitous, quasi-accidental manner in which good photographs occur (I > almost can't go out to shoot without getting something good, but I never > know beforehand what it will be); I love crafting the > results--"post-processing" has always been very satisfying for me; I very > much enjoy darkroom work--and I love looking at results. Where some people > will reach for a book to read in bed before falling asleep, I often reach > for a stack of prints to look through, study, and enjoy. OK - so far there's no real difference between digital and conventional photography here. > So far I am extremely enthused about much of what I'm doing in digital. I > like the look of the prints, I like the radical streamlining of my working > process (so fast, so easy, so cheap in both money and time). But what I > think I really love and have been MOST surprised by is the versatility of > the camera. What is it that you like about the look of the prints? Do you like them more than a wet print? Are you printing in color or B&W? How large are you making the prints? Have you compared a well-printed B&W photo to a digitally made print, same size, same subject, same light? > I have a decent-quality $650 3-mp p/s that's pretty limited--it simply has > to be prefocused to be at all responsive, for instance. You have to achieve > the "green dot" first or the camera is so slow as to be useless. For those of us living in caves, what's the "green dot" and how does that relate to making a photograph? > But because > of the extremely small size of the CCD and the extreme shortness of the > lens, wonderful things become possible. First of all, depth of field is so > great that at moderate apertures (I mean like f/2.8 or f/4) and ordinary > camera-to-subject distances, pan-focus (i.e., everything in focus front to > back) is the rule rather than the exception. d.o.f. at maximum aperture > (f/1.8 on my camera) is amazing--- So, how do you get a more selective DOF? What if you want just a small area in focus and lots of out of focus area in front of or behind the subject? Can you set the focus between two subjects, where there is essentially nothing to focus on? Can you control the aperture yourself and see what's in focus, or does the camera decide aperture and focus for you? > MACRO work is laughably easy--the camera has a "macro mode" and the d.o.f. > is so great that it allows virtually "macro snapshooting." Bokeh is superb. > Panoramics, even of numerous frames, are now simple. Here again I question the value of great DOF when shooting macros. Not that it's never a good thing, but can you control it? > > It really seems like many 35mm cameras in one. It's a zoom lens, but it's a > high-speed lens too (how many film cameras have f/1.8 zooms??). It's a GOOD > macro lens. It's three film cans in one camera, switching automatically or > manually between ISO 100, 200, and 400. A good macro lens compared to what? How does it stack up against a Pentax A*200/4.0 macro for example, or the A100/2.8? What sort of working distance can you get between the lens and the subject? What's the magnification ratio? Three films in one sounds a little strange, in the "Jack of all trades master of none" context. It's my understanding that there's a noticeable drop in quality as one moves to the higher speeds. Have you noticed that? What do you do if you want a slower/faster speed? Does the camera have exposure compensation? Can you set it to over or under expose depending on what you want to see in the final "print"? Well, that's enough questions for now. Gotta get to work I may continue with the rest of your post later. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: NASA Photo Tonight
If the absurdity of the idea didn't tip anyone off, the phrase "pass this on to as many people as possible" should have been a red flag ;) Gerald E. Lewis wrote: >This is a HOAX > >> Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from NASA: 10:30 EASTERN >> TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has asked that >> everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle. They >> will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the U.S. and posting >> it on the news tomorrow morning. >> Please pass this on to as many people as possible. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: NASA Photo Tonight
> -Original Message- > From: Lindamood, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from > NASA: 10:30 EASTERN > > TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has > asked that > > everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light > a candle. They > > will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the > U.S. and posting > > it on the news tomorrow morning. > > Please pass this on to as many people as possible. Does anyone have the OFFICIAL request from NASA? Thanks. Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: NASA Photo Tonight
This is a HOAX Gerald E. Lewis Lockheed Martin Space Operations HRF Flight Operations Johnson Space Center Houston, TX -Original Message- From: Lindamood, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:14 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: FW: NASA Photo Tonight > -Original Message- > From: Ratkiewicz, Ken > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:58 AM > Subject: NASA Photo Tonight > > Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from NASA: 10:30 EASTERN > TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has asked that > everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle. They > will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the U.S. and posting > it on the news tomorrow morning. > Please pass this on to as many people as possible. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
Thanks, Tom. I had never used any film faster than ISO 800 before, and I don't know exactly what to expect from this one. Why do you rate it at "only" 1250? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FW: NASA Photo Tonight
> -Original Message- > From: Ratkiewicz, Ken > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:58 AM > Subject: NASA Photo Tonight > > Please pass this on if you wish. A formal request from NASA: 10:30 EASTERN > TIME 9:30 Central, 8:30 Mountain, 7:30 Pacific NASA has asked that > everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 and light a candle. They > will be positioning a satellite to take a picture of the U.S. and posting > it on the news tomorrow morning. > Please pass this on to as many people as possible. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike wrote: MJ> lens, wonderful things become possible. First of all, depth of field is so MJ> great that at moderate apertures (I mean like f/2.8 or f/4) and ordinary MJ> camera-to-subject distances, pan-focus (i.e., everything in focus front to Sorry Mike, to me narrow dof is a big loss. And please don't tell me you can fix that in Photoshop. MJ> MACRO work is laughably easy--the camera has a "macro mode" and the d.o.f. MJ> is so great that it allows virtually "macro snapshooting." Bokeh is superb. Bokeh? What bokeh can you possibly get at such high dof? Really, I thought the limited series defined bokeh here. Now we're supposed to give up to this and other insignificant features like sharpness, resolution, just for the sake of convenience. Frankly, I don't see anything else in your argumentation besides it's so easy. Oh well, I must be getting a tory before the proper age... Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Confessions of an old timer
Conrad Samuels wrote: > It came as a shock recently to read about > the members who used "other" makes in real life. > [...] > Just surprised dedicated Pentaxites could actually > admit to such low actions I'm sure your comment about using other makes of cameras is meant in jest, or perhaps there's a cultural or language difference here. Those on the list who use Nikons, Leicas, view cameras, Minoltas, and the like, would not consider such use to be a "low action". -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Mag azine"
Isn't that an oxymoron? Mick Maguire wrote: > I am a Windows software engineer by profession. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digicams and 35mm--Warning! Long post
Mike Johnston wrote: > > I have a decent-quality $650 3-mp p/s that's pretty limited--it simply has > to be prefocused to be at all responsive, for instance. You have to achieve > the "green dot" first or the camera is so slow as to be useless. So what's next on your shopping list? > When you think of it, it's really quite a lot > of work to go from clicking the shutter button to making a finished b&w fine > print if you do everything yourself, especially if you make workprints as an > aid to editing. Amen. As far as digital goes, it just comes down to trying it, or at least being open to it. I know that I personally had no interest in it as recently as a year ago. Then I saw some prints...surprise, they're pictures, not cheesy pixellated amalgamations of bad snapshots. The proof is in the prints. Again, I'll probably wait till I can get some gear that'll produce a decent 11x14 at EI 1600. I'm also interested in seeing some specs for the MZ-D. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"
That's plenty. I hope you find the problem. Maris - Original Message - From: "Mark D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine" | From: Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | > A shot in the dark Mark, but I kept crashing too until I added more | memory. | > How much do you have now? | | 512meg ram, top notch video card, modem, nic card, sound card (I spared no | expense for this POS). A friend and I are going to go through it this | weekend piece by piece. | | Mark | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film advice needed
"Eduardo Carone Costa Jr." wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I just bought my first roll of Ilford Delta 3200 B&W film and would > appreciate any information you could give me about the best way to use it. I > would like to get some night shots, probably at a show or a bar; something > grainy and moody. should I use it at its nominal rated speed or try to push > it? 3200 seems plenty grainy to me. That's the number on the box, so why not give it a shot? See what it does at that EI, and if you want to experiment some more you'll at least have a base to start from. Personally, when I shoot it in 120, I shoot it at 1250. > What can you tell me about the use of fill flash or a typical B&W > filter, like the Y1, under such conditions? One caution about fill-flash in low-light...if you're not getting enough ambient light for a proper exposure, and you set your flash to give less then proper exposure, guess what? You won't get a proper exposure. Fill flash means you're using flash to fill in shadows...you're not adding a little flash to a little ambient light in the hopes of them adding up to a decent exposure. You just underexpose. If it's dark, and you decide to use flash, do this: pick the lowest shutter speed you can handhold, or maybe one stop below. Then set the aperture as wide as you can. The stop you set the aperture at will be determined by how well you can see to focus - if you can barely see, you'll probably want to stop down a bit to cover focusing errors. If you have ttl, fire away...if not, set it to match your aperture and subject distance. The key to this is getting the longest shutter speed and largest aperture you can get away with...this will give you more ambient light, illuminating te background and eliminating the 'dark tunnel' look. If you're shooting in marginal light, a filter is only a hindrance, imo. It'll just suck up more light. Bear in mind that if you're using ttl flash, Pentax cameras/flashes can't go up to 3200. I believe the PZ-1p says it can only handle ttl flash up to 800. > I'll probably use a KM with a K 50/1.2 or, if you tell me to push it to a > higher ISO, a MZ-M. I'm not considering autofocus because I don't think it > will work for this kind of photo. AF will work if you've got AF-assist. Good luck. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Biro, ball point pen
Hi, On 17 Sep 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Now to the ball point pen. The ball point pen is almost as old as > photography itself, having been invented prior to October, 1888, the > date when it was patented. It was met with mixed success, although it > worked well for rough marking of items, as the ball was not very > precisely ground and the ink was rather thick. However, in 1944 an > Argentinean by the name of Lazlo Biro (coincidentally, a distant > relative to a high school classmate, Barbara Biro) was able to > successfully produce an accurately ground ball that would ride in a > brass socket. This was the first ball point pen that could achieve > fine enough detail for correspondence and be able to compete with the > fountain pen in producing even lines. Almost true ;-) Biro Laszlo and Biro Gy÷rgy were Hungarians. They invented the first versions of the pen here in Hungary, but didn't do anythig to put it in production. Later they moved to Argentina (because of WWII), and found some investors there and marketed the pens. It needed heavy redesign before the success... Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: film grain and digital
Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Aaron, > > You must write this technique into an article for > publication & submit it. It's one of the most > novel & fascinating technology transition adaptions I've heard yet. Hey, thanks for the encouragement. I wonder who to submit it to? -AA+ ron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Confessions of an old timer
Conrad Samuels wrote: [Nice essay on the joys of using old equipment] Shel replied: > What is it that you don't understand about some list members > using meterless cameras, or, at times, eschewing their cameras' > built-in meters? Hi Shel, I didn't get the impression that Conrad doesn't understand. Rather, I got the impression he not only understands, but to some extent espouses, the philosophy of those of us -- yourself, for instance -- who make the conscious effort to maintain and use rugged and reliable equipment from an earlier era. It's the same philosophy, I think, that drives some of us to fix our own appliances instead of replacing them, or to yearn for an old pre-1967 VW Beetle instead of a newer car. He just can't find the words to succinctly describe this philosophy. "Anti-new"? Not at all! Samuel, I'm not putting words in your mouth, am I? Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tamron 28-105 Lens.
Jim Moniz wrote: > > I was shown this lens today and fell in love! I'm "doomed" to buy it in a > month or two! [...] Jim, some time ago I spent a few hours trying to get to the bottom of the 28-105 theme. I even made some web pages with my findings. They should be at: space.tin.it/arte/flamin/28-105.html but right now I can't go and find out myself. Anyway I finally chose the Tokina which I still have and are rather satisfied of. Bottom line is: stay away from the faster Sigma, the dimmer Tamron and Sigma are not too bad. The Tokina is out of production by now. Contact me if you have more questions. Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Magazine"
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:43:21 +1000, Anthony Farr wrote: > It's not entirely Microsofts fault because the duplications are being > made by independent software developers, but they should have foreseen > it. Why there couldn't have been a register of system file names to > prevent the situation I don't know. It's mostly their fault, though. :-) When Office 97 wanted to replace KERNEL.EXE (one of the main operating system files) I almost blew a gasket. They don't exactly set a good example for "development and system hygiene". And they're the one that created "DLL Hell" in the first place, by hacking some odd something together without thinking the issue through. I'm about ready to go to work as a bus driver or something. :-) TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Visiting PDML'er - a little ray of sunshine
> -Original Message- > From: Jody [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:20 AM > Subject: Re: Visiting PDML'er - a little ray of sunshine > > --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We both shot a few frames and pretty soon I'll post > > a couple > > so you can see what > > he looks like. > > Do we really want to? Just kidding :) > [Cesar writes >] Hey! It may be a mug only a mother could love, but it is mine ;-) > > Cesar had treated me to lunch > > Now where do I get a man like that? > [Cesar writes >] We are around. You just don't travel the same circles ;-) My door is always open, and I am known to be a pretty good cook - so come on over! I know that people will never make it to my isolated corner of the world, but i may have to start making a world tour of PDMLers. Cesar NYC raised Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland > > Jody. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: If you don't now own a Mac, better get one (from "Forbes Ma g a zine"
> -Original Message- > From: David A. Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The down side is that when I went to Magnum Mac to pick up > my tablet the > other day I looked at the prices. A good G4 box is not for > the faint-hearted, at > least until the G5 comes out. And that titanium laptop is > one sweet piece of > gear... > > Cheers, > > > - Dave I was thinking a laptop would be nice to play with until I win the lottery... Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Battery Pack FG
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Jones [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: Battery Pack FG > > In Australia I paid $70au for it, which is about $37us. $110us is a joke. > > [Cesar writes >] The original price was about US$100. There was a point in time that they dropped to about US$40 if not lower. I know of a few stores that were still asking the original price since they bot them when the price was still high. It could be the case here. Cesar Panama City, Florida Sitting in Baltimore, Maryland > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Nordin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:54 PM > Subject: RE: Battery Pack FG > > > > Just to clarify my opinion - in Sweden the FG pack costs something like > USD > > 50, and I think it's worth it. However, I could never dream of another > place > > being more expensive than Sweden, and for USD 110 - well, the battery > > economy argument is simply not valid anymore. However, it's worth it for > the > > improved handling with large lenses nevertheless. The difference was > > apparent with the Tamron macro 90/2.8, which definitely isn't the > largest > > lens in the world. > > > > By the way, I got both the Tamron lens and the FG pack from B&H in NYC - > 25 > > USD for the pack. Still, sooner or later I would have bought it in > Sweden. > > > > /Erik - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Battery Pack FG
In Australia I paid $70au for it, which is about $37us. $110us is a joke. - Original Message - From: "Erik Nordin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Battery Pack FG > Just to clarify my opinion - in Sweden the FG pack costs something like USD > 50, and I think it's worth it. However, I could never dream of another place > being more expensive than Sweden, and for USD 110 - well, the battery > economy argument is simply not valid anymore. However, it's worth it for the > improved handling with large lenses nevertheless. The difference was > apparent with the Tamron macro 90/2.8, which definitely isn't the largest > lens in the world. > > By the way, I got both the Tamron lens and the FG pack from B&H in NYC - 25 > USD for the pack. Still, sooner or later I would have bought it in Sweden. > > /Erik > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: den 18 september 2001 18:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Battery Pack FG > > > (Augustine is wondering whether the FG battery pack is worth its price.) > > Value for money depends on how much you pay for it. Here in the UK, the FG > pack retails for the equivalent of about USD 110, a crazy price for a > plastic box with a prong on one end, whatever it does for the feel of the > camera. > I was fortunate that a US-based friend happened to be travelling this way > last year, so she brought me one from B&H in NYC for about USD 25 - still a > lot for a plastic box with a prong on one end, but almost reasonable by > comparison. > > And yes, although the 'nude' -5n never felt bad in my hands, it feels better > with the FG attached. Whether it'll save me any money on batteries is > questionable - almost a year on, I'm still on the first set of AAs I put in > it. If you're a moderate user, like me, you might save more by finding a > cheaper source of lithium batteries - the mark-up in the High Street is > huge. > > Hope that's some help, > Clive. > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What the hell was that?
It was on my machine this morning to Frank.I want the old millinium back. Dave Begin Original Message From: Frank Theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:36:31 -0400 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: What the hell was that? I just got an e-mail from "Rapture". Apparently it was from PDML, but for some reason it didn't get filtered off into my Pentax folder. I wouldn't say it was pornographic, but it did mention breasts and nipples (oh dear!). It certainly didn't have anything to say about Pentaxes or photography or anything of that nature! At the bottom of the e-mail were the words: "[demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of withdrew.exe]" Anyone get one as well? Anyone know what the heck it was? Not worried, just curious, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ont Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: There, this is for your souvenir, Maybe you have a virus ?
At 04:57 AM 9/19/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Does this mean there really are no nipples? You mean it was all a hoax? >:( No Ed, there *are* nipples, you just have to know where to look. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG auto submission page not accessible?
>FWIW, I submitted my October image last night by autoPUG, and it worked >just fine. Got almost instantaneous confimation of receipt by e-mail. >Only problem was that I tried to submit an image that was 80K, and it >wouldn't accept it, so I had to go "shrink" it and re-submit ;) Me too, all went fine. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Phictionary
On Fri 2001-09-14 (14:20), Martin Trautmann wrote: > As a collection from various source I now have about 500 English terms and > matching German expressions, plus 500 more German expressions without > English ones. Ok, I see that this topic may be of little interest in PDML. (still more concerned in WTC, no more interest in foreign affairs?). The current version is available on http://people.freenet.de/traut/Phictionary.html (total almost 2500 entries, more than 800 in Italian, none in French or any other language yet) Minor upgrades will go on without further notification here. Anyone willing to help might contact me by private email. Regards Martin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What the hell was that?
Guys, this is Jason aka Rapture. I subscribed back with my other isp mail yesterday as I have not been able to access my ficnet.net pop account for a couple days. I had thought it was the typhoon and the flood over here in Taipei, Taiwan that caused much flooding and affected many companies including my isp which caused it to go down. Today, i got back and received this email from myself, from this address -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not know what is wrong but I have mcafee in my pc and it isnt affected as far as I know. Even then when ficnet was still up, it has virus detection and informs me each time an infected exe file is being received. Hinet also automatically deletes the virus file as u can see below. I also do not open any unknown exe file and always delete away shit. I do know the pc stuff and will not ever get myself infected, unless some goon friend does it without me knowing. I will do my investigation over my side and let you guys know of the outcome. Thanks Kelvin for explaining on my behalf, appreciate. Jason Kiew At 12:58 PM 9/18/2001 +0800, you wrote: I blankly received the thing it was a brownish round patch. Selina stood up and whispered into my ears. "I stick this on my nipples so that they are not as revealing I don't like to wear bra ..." (me either!) and as if she could read my mind, "by the way, they are 39CC. " and she bit my ear lope before whooshing away and out of the door. I stood there totally stunned. [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of withdrew.exe] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . At 08:36 PM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I just got an e-mail from "Rapture". Apparently it was from PDML, but >for some reason it didn't get filtered off into my Pentax folder. I >wouldn't say it was pornographic, but it did mention breasts and nipples >(oh dear!). It certainly didn't have anything to say about Pentaxes or >photography or anything of that nature! At the bottom of the e-mail >were the words: >"[demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream >which had a name of withdrew.exe]" > >Anyone get one as well? Anyone know what the heck it was? > >Not worried, just curious, >frank > >-- >"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The >pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert >Oppenheimer >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: There, this is for your souvenir,.
Guys, this is Jason aka Rapture. I subscribed back with my other isp mail yesterday as I have not been able to access my ficnet.net pop account for a couple days. I had thought it was the typhoon and the flood over here in Taipei, Taiwan that caused much flooding and affected many companies including my isp which caused it to go down. Today, i got back and received this email from myself, from this address -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not know what is wrong but I have mcafee in my pc and it isnt affected as far as I know. Even then when ficnet was still up, it has virus detection and informs me each time an infected exe file is being received. Hinet also automatically deletes the virus file as u can see below. I also do not open any unknown exe file and always delete away shit. I do know the pc stuff and will not ever get myself infected, unless some goon friend does it without me knowing. I will do my investigation over my side and let you guys know of the outcome. Thanks Kelvin for explaining on my behalf, appreciate. Jason Kiew At 12:58 PM 9/18/2001 +0800, you wrote: >I blankly received the thing it was a brownish round patch. >Selina stood up and whispered into my ears. "I stick this on my nipples so >that they are not as revealing I don't like to wear bra ..." (me >either!) and as if she could read my mind, "by the way, they are 39CC. " >and she bit my ear lope before whooshing away and out of the door. >I stood there totally stunned. > >[demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which >had a name of withdrew.exe] >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Snail: Pobox 56-86, Taipei, Taiwan ROC Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:02-27136283, 02-27699236 HP: 0930636190(Roc), 98322170(Sg) Aren't your pictures worth a Pentax ? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: There, this is for your souvenir, Maybe you have a virus ?
Does this mean there really are no nipples? You mean it was all a hoax? :( Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Peter, Doug and all, Peter Jesser wrote: > > Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it? > ... Yes I have it. I didn't use it a lot but if you think it would be useful I could post some samples to the net. It doesn't seem so bad for me, but I have nothing to compare it to. Is not a lens you can handhold very easily and the tripod collar is not really sturdy but useful nonetheless. When I use it I try to keep it on the monopod (Manfrotto) at all times. > Not a Pentax in > sight until I saw this Tokina 400mm at the back. M42 mount (but that's no > problem with a converter) new, in its box, marked "Was $310, today only > $210". That's Australian dollars! I know it isn't top drawer, but I have a > new 400mm for about US $108. > ... The price is certainly interesting, although the screwmount makes it slower to use. I paid mine 199USD last year from KEH in BGN conditions. > So - if you have used one and can give me an idea of what to expect, I would > like to hear about it. I am not a professional, but some of my pics get > published with my hunting and conservation articles. I won't get to try it > until next weekend. > ... It could be a good deal but at 5.6 is not a fast lens, especially since you're supposed to stop it down a bit. I think it could be a fair starting point. Hope it helps, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
