Re: A FEW DETAILS about the new Pentax 645N II

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Mike wrote:


***The camera will have a REAL mirror lock-up (MLU) so those of you who
don't agree with me about this feature should be happy!!***


It has BOTH real mirror lock and mirror-prefire via the self timer (if the 
camera is programmed that way with the custom functions).

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Re[3]: P67II or P645n

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Bruce wrote:


So when is the 645nII going to be available and where can I read about
the new changes/features?


It has been available here for over a month now. In fact, I plan to visit 
the Pentax distributor today and take a look at it.

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Re[2]: P67II or P645n

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Bruce wrote:


I think you make a very valid point in that the 645 could actually be
considered to replace 35mm.  Since I have a reasonable 35mm outfit, I
would have some concerns in replacing it.


I wasn't really thinking about replacing it literally. It's just that you 
can take a complete 645 outfit in the field and don't miss the 35mm gear. 
You can leave it at home. Whereas, a complete 67 system isn't really 
manageable for most of us and on a shooting you really have to carry 35mm 
gear as well in order to cover most shooting situation.
Of course, all this depends on your shooting style

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Re: af speed again...

2002-01-28 Thread MPozzi

No, I belive the offposite should happen, as more
light comes to the AF sensor, the more contrast,
therefore less hunting.
I do not knoe if there is a noticeable difference with
the apertures you mention, but between 2.8 and 5.6
there might be.

Michele

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 I know that lens size will play a part in how fast
 the
 camera can focus. But, does this mean that my FA*
 300/4.5 will focus faster than say a FA* 300/2.8.
 Because, from what I understand, the 4.5 is much
 smaller than the 2.8? Thanks.
 
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Re: non-favorite Pentax lens?

2002-01-28 Thread MPozzi

Without doubt, the FA 28-80 3.5-4.5 power zoom, that
was sold with the Z-1.
Terrible build lens, Wobbly inner barrel that over the
years fell out. Sticky aperure blades, and over time,
refused to focus at infinity
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Spotted on eBay: 24mm Tokina 2.8 in PK

2002-01-28 Thread Cotty

It's a recent start, so ya-boo!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1327877842

24mm Tokina 2.8 in PK

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wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one example for flare

2002-01-28 Thread Familie Scheffler

Hello,

I mounted ten pictures made with the FA*24/2.0 on my homepage in a new
gallery
www.bienenbnernd.de  ---Galerie --- 4th and least gallery

The pictures No 5 (with red frame) shows some unexpected flare. In the
moment I took this shot I didn't mention it. Who would think of  flare when
the sun doesn't appear in the picture?!

By the way: concerning  'Subject: This List Should Have Warning Labels...':
I never thought so much on cameras, lenses, and so on for the last 20 years
(when I gave up my own dark-room) since I began looking at the PUG and
homepages of its members and at least reading the PDML. Thanks god my wife
has her own intensive hobby in sports so she understands emotions in those
things.

best wishes
Bernd
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RE: Buying out of date film.

2002-01-28 Thread Malcolm Smith

All points noted; very interested in the comments in this string. Thanks.

Malcolm
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RE: OT: Yatta

2002-01-28 Thread Malcolm Smith

I got this sent to me; being brought up with M. Python has made my (at
least) generation keen on the more bizarre styles of humour. It is
addictive - must exit.can't move hands.:-)

Malcolm



Where did you find that?  That's more condensed weirdness than I've seen in
quite a while.  I had to force myself to exit after the third play!  It's
strangely addictive.

Pat White
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New Pentax 645II (WAS: Re[3]: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

I wrote:


It has been available here for over a month now. In fact, I plan to visit
the Pentax distributor today and take a look at it.


I've just been there looking at it. It's terrific. The new finish looks 
fabulous. Also, the plastic seem to be of a better quality than before. 
This camera feels and looks like a brick. I've never seen anything with 
plastic finish that look so good.
The camera also feels softer and smoother somehow. Mirror-lock works great.

Also, there are more lenses coming for it soon. It would make the camera an 
even better proposition. (sorry I can't disclose focal lengths).


Pål

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Re: 645d (wasRe: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Tom wrote:


I agree. What would a 645d look like? Would it have a 6x4.5 sensor?
If not, what would be the point?


After all, this is just a rumor. From japan. Also the luminous landscape 
site suggest the same thing. Pentax have also recently patented a digital 
back for the 645. Theres nothing in hard writing yet.

Digital back also make sense for MF systems. They are experiencing great 
sales loss due to uncertainty about their future and digital.


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Re: Oops

2002-01-28 Thread Paul Stenquist

Mike Johnston wrote:

  As for the other expenses, it's a month away. We'll know everything then.

 I must have money on the brain. I mistyped expenses when I meant
 changes.

 Can you have a senior moment at 44? Well, whatever


Let me see...? What was the question? Oh yeah, can  you have a senior moment
at 44? I think that's about when they start.
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50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Leon Altoff

Hi all,

I am looking at permanently attaching a 50 mm lens reverse mounted on
my bellows - I usually use my FA50f1.4, but I'm starting to get annoyed
with taking it apart and putting it back together again.  The question
I need answered is, as I'm going to dedicate a lens to the bellows,
which one would be best for my needs?

I generally shoot with the lens stopped down to f16 or f22 to get the
greatest depth of field.  My subjects are 3 dimensional, so a flat
field of focus is not 100% necessary.  My subjects also tend to hide
from bright lights, so I can't use extra light to help me focus, and at
full extension of the bellows and a 2 times converter between the
camera and bellows (7 times magnification to the film), any extra light
is a bonus.

I'll probably end up with a K or M f1.4 or a K f1.2, but the closest I
have come to an f1.2 is picking one up at a swap meet, so I have no
idea of it's optical performance compared with an f1.4 (particularly
reverse mounted on bellows for macro use).

So my question to all you knowledgable people out there is: is a 50 mm
f1.2 as sharp as an f1.4 when stopped down between f11 and f22, and is
there anything you know about these lenses that I should know before I
go out and try to buy one?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.


 Leon

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Re: 645d (wasRe: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

BTW  The contacts are placed on the grip section immediately to the right 
of the back. In other words, it's feasible that electrical contacts for a 
digital back can fit directly into the electrical contacts on the body.

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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Alan Chan

I am no expert on macro, but afaik, fast lenses aren't preferred for extreme 
close-up. For 50mm, f1.7 or f2 is preferred.

regards,
Alan Chan

I am looking at permanently attaching a 50 mm lens reverse mounted on
my bellows - I usually use my FA50f1.4, but I'm starting to get annoyed
with taking it apart and putting it back together again.  The question
I need answered is, as I'm going to dedicate a lens to the bellows,
which one would be best for my needs?

I generally shoot with the lens stopped down to f16 or f22 to get the
greatest depth of field.  My subjects are 3 dimensional, so a flat
field of focus is not 100% necessary.  My subjects also tend to hide
from bright lights, so I can't use extra light to help me focus, and at
full extension of the bellows and a 2 times converter between the
camera and bellows (7 times magnification to the film), any extra light
is a bonus.

I'll probably end up with a K or M f1.4 or a K f1.2, but the closest I
have come to an f1.2 is picking one up at a swap meet, so I have no
idea of it's optical performance compared with an f1.4 (particularly
reverse mounted on bellows for macro use).

So my question to all you knowledgable people out there is: is a 50 mm
f1.2 as sharp as an f1.4 when stopped down between f11 and f22, and is
there anything you know about these lenses that I should know before I
go out and try to buy one?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.


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Test

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

Test
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Re: teleconverters and losing an f/stop: any benefit?

2002-01-28 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

John,

Thanks for your detailed reviews of TCs. When someone takes the time to 
share his test results in such detail, it spares list members like me from 
wasting money on turkeys.

But my question about effective aperture remains unanswered. It's clear 
enough that by multiplying the focal length, you reduce depth of field. I'm 
asking this: Given that a 1.4X reduces depth of field, do you get some of 
it back because your lens's f/5.6 setting is now effectively f/8?

John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You get less DOF when adding a TC, assuming the lens-with-TC and the
same bare lens are both wide open and focused on a subject the same
distance away.
So a 300/2.8 + 1.4X TC = 420mm/f4, focused at 21 feet will have less
DOF than a bare 300/2.8 focused the same 21 feet distance.




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RE: 645d (wasRe: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread Rob Brigham

My plastic is itching now!

The APS size sensor denies me of any desire to get the MZ-d, but the 645
system is growing in interest hourly...

 -Original Message-
 From: Pål Audun Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 28 January 2002 11:38
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 645d (wasRe: P67II or P645n)
 
 
 BTW  The contacts are placed on the grip section immediately 
 to the right 
 of the back. In other words, it's feasible that electrical 
 contacts for a 
 digital back can fit directly into the electrical contacts on 
 the body.
 
 Pål
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RE: Oops

2002-01-28 Thread Paris, Leonard

Let me see...? What was the question? Oh yeah, can  you have a senior
moment at 44? I think that's about when they start.

Paul
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Hmm, 44?  That was too long ago for me to remember back that far.  Could
have been, though. :)

Len
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Re: Differences between Z-1 and Z1-p

2002-01-28 Thread Rfsindg

Frantisek,

Neil is right.  There is no separate flash compensation on the Z-1.  It's a 
fine camera, but I added a Z-1p that a list member was retiring for the 
separate flash compensation (fill flash) and the faster winder speed (~3.5 
fps vs 2 fps).

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 NvN To comment on Darryn's question about the differences between the Z-1 
and
 NvN the Z1-p ..
 NvN There is one very important difference not mentioned in that thread ... 
you
 NvN can set the flash's exposure compensation seperately from the camera's
 NvN exposure compensation on the Z-1p.  This means that you can more 
effectively
 NvN set flash-fill to ambient ratios on the Z-1p.  The Z-1 only had exposure
 NvN compensation which affected the camera and the flashgun's exposure.  The
 NvN Z-1p therefore gives a lot more control.
 vN Neil.
 
 Hi Neil,
is that really true? Did you use both bodies, or did you heard it?
 
 I am unsure because I held a friend's Z1 and I think I remember
 setting flash compensation SEPARATELY from ambient compensation.
 Please check somebody with Z1 body. 
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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread Bill Owens

You've been enabled!

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From: Marc Schlotthauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: This List Should Have Warning Labels...


 Geez...

 I innocently joined this list just because my Spotmatics and I felt a bit
 insecure among all the Canon and Nikon aficionados out there.

 A week or two after joining the list, I took the plunge and bought a PZ-1p
 with a handy-dandy 28-70 f/4 zoom, and have been obsessing mightily.

 Now, I'm lusting after the 645, and have casually mentioned to my wife the
 possiblity of converting a section of the garage into a darkroom.

 I'm a dead man.



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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 Now, I'm lusting after the 645, and have casually mentioned to my wife the
 possiblity of converting a section of the garage into a darkroom.
 
 I'm a dead man.


Marc,
Join the crowd, join the crowd.

Actually, I guess you already have! gg

Good for you in starting a darkroom. I have the studs for an elaborate
little 7' x 9' darkroom all built downstairs in my basement--I'm putting up
the subwall now and working on the ventilation system. I've been a bit
distracted by digital, but just THINKING about digital too much just makes
me miss conventional darkroom work too much.

I used to be the Editor of _Photo Techniques_, previous called _Darkroom and
Creative Camera Techniques_, which was, until I got my paws on it, the
largest surviving darkroom magazine in the English-speaking world (now it's
a general photographic magazine with a distinctly technical and scholarly
slant--scholarly by magazine standards, at least).

My friend Ctein (pronounced kuh-TINE), former Contributing Editor for
_Darkroom Photography_ magazine, former Contributing Editor for the American
_Camera  Darkroom Photography_ magazine, former contributor to the English
_Darkroom User_ magazine, current contributor Editor for the English _Camera
 Darkroom_ magazine, and current contributor to _Photo Techniques_, has a
nice section on his website about building a temporary darkroom (I put
that in quotes because his has been in continuous duty for 20+ years g).
It might offer you some tips about how to convert part of your garage
without doing any damage to the resale value of your house.

Best,

--Mike

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Re: New Enlarger Up and Running

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 Thanks Mike. Another question: Obviously a VCCE head is convenient. Is it
 superior to gel filters below the lens in terms of image quality?

Paul,
Yes, I think so. More to the point, it offers more control more easily. With
infinitely variable contrast BETWEEN whole or half grades it's very easy to
tweak contrast exactly.


 I've
 considered the possibility of putting gel filters behind the diffusion
 glass on my ancient Omega cold light head. It's accessible. Would this be
 better than gels below the lens?

Yes. Any way to put the filters before the lens is preferable, unless it
subjects the gels to too much heat. A cold light gets to around 100
degrees F which is usually no problem.
 

 I've been using gels below the lens ever
 since I went to cold light, but it bugs me. I figure why worry about lens
 resolution if you're going to put a cheap gel filter below it.

It would bug me too. I'm not saying you'd find it easy to notice a big
difference--or any visible difference--but just on the face of it it does
seem evident that it's not the best solution.

--Mike

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Re: FS: pentax SFXn in perfect cond; SMC F 1.4/50 lens (together or separately)

2002-01-28 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Hey Pentax brother,
  Don't get the M lenses!
  'K' for best overall optical design, or 'A' for color  contrast improvements.  Even 
the SuperMultiCoated Tak 50/1.4 would be better than the 'M' and would look nice on a 
KX! 

Collin  :)

==
... so I will get a M or 
   K 1.4/50 (losing some sharpness over the F but gaining better looks g) 


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Re: Wide Angle Enlarging Lenses

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 I have used the 40mm f4 El-Nikkor for years when I need to make a 20x24 from
 a 35mm neg. on the baseboard on my Beseler 23C  III.   It does an excellent
 job -- grain is clear and crisp and there is minimal light falloff.

Okay, I guess I'm wrong about wide-angle enlarging lenses. Actually I'm just
parroting some advice that Arthur Kramer used to dispense on the old
CompuServe. He had tested all manner of enlarging lenses and had found that
NO wide-angle lens came up to the standard of the best of the lenses of the
stand focal length for any format.

Of course, Uncle Arthur's standards are the highest--he prints 35mm, for
instance, with an 8x10 Durst (about a $10,000 enlarger) elaborately bolted
to a concrete wall and equipped with a $2,400 Apo-El-Nikkor enlarging lens
(serial number 007, if I remember correctly g).

In any event, I'll cede the point to anybody like you, Bob, who has direct
experience. While not giving up on my prejudices entirely either. g

--Mike

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Re: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one example for flare

2002-01-28 Thread Jaume Lahuerta

The actual link is:
http://www.bienenbernd.de
isn't it?
(there is a 'n' less than the one you said)
It doesn't work well with Netscape.

I agree that the flare shown there is a little bit
strange. I have the SMC-A 24/2.8 and I have never seen
anything like this...

Regards,
Jaume

--- Familie Scheffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I mounted ten pictures made with the FA*24/2.0 on my
 homepage in a new
 gallery
 www.bienenbnernd.de  ---Galerie --- 4th and
 least gallery
 
 The pictures No 5 (with red frame) shows some
 unexpected flare. In the
 moment I took this shot I didn't mention it. Who
 would think of  flare when
 the sun doesn't appear in the picture?!
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RE: Too Short Pentax Cable Switch F (Survey)

2002-01-28 Thread Mick Maguire

It would be nice if extensions were available. It would be nicer if they had
produced an adapter to make it fit the MZ-S so I wouldn't have had to buy
the MZ-S item ($60 or so) and wouldn't have to carry both around when I am
using 2 bodies.

Regards,
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Re: AF teleconverter 1.7

2002-01-28 Thread Jan van Wijk

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:45:19 -, Frits J. Wthrich wrote:

 Does it move back to infinity when I
switch off my PZ-1? Or do I need to AF focus on something at infinity before
switching the camera off to reset the converter?

You have to do that yourself, there is no 'reset' as far as I could tell ...

Regards, JvW
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Re: New Pentax 645II (WAS: Re[3]: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread thomas

Pal said:
 
 Also, there are more lenses coming for it soon. It would make the
 camera an even better proposition. (sorry I can't disclose focal
 lengths).

One's gotta be the 55/2.8.

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RE: Too Short Pentax Cable Switch F (Survey)

2002-01-28 Thread Rob Brigham

It would be nicer still if they only cost $2 or so.  They cant cost that
much for them to make!

 -Original Message-
 From: Mick Maguire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 28 January 2002 13:54
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Too Short Pentax Cable Switch F (Survey)
 
 
 It would be nice if extensions were available. It would be 
 nicer if they had
 produced an adapter to make it fit the MZ-S so I wouldn't 
 have had to buy
 the MZ-S item ($60 or so) and wouldn't have to carry both 
 around when I am
 using 2 bodies.
 
 Regards,
 /\/\ick...
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645NII to be featured in March issue of PHOTOgraphic

2002-01-28 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore

The March issue (on sale Feb. 12) of Petersen's PHOTOgraphic is to have a 
lead feature on the 'Unveiling of the 645NII'.

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Re: New Pentax 645II (WAS: Re[3]: P67II or P645n)

2002-01-28 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Thomas wrote:


One's gotta be the 55/2.8.


No. (at least as far as I know)

Pål
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Re: SMCT 35/2

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 I finally nabbed a true new one. In a sealed  carton, truly never
 used, it had all the wrappings  and warranty card, everything that made
 it a brand new lens. I paid dearly for it, since another ebayer had
 cast longing eyes  on it too. But, it was totally free of yellow cast.

Sid,
That's pretty amazing that true new ones are still out there.

 
 I am sincerely of the opinion these old SMCTs, easily available, many
 in mint condition, albeit  some with yellow casts from aging, are works
 of art, a beauty of Japanese engineering, and quite capable of producing
 works of art, despite their not having aspherical  elements,  LD glass
 or any of the newer innovations of modern manufacturing.

I heartily second that. I know in my head that the later 50/1.4's are
probably as good as most S.M.C.-Takumar's, but the wonderful construction of
that lens just gets to me. As JCO says, a good one has got the smoothest
focusing action of ANY lens, Zeiss or Leica included. It's just a
beautifully made object.

It's also a verifiable fact that manufacturers over the years have
concentrated their considerable efforts on taking cost OUT of certain
products as a way of putting value in. And while in many cases their skill
and attention results in products that may perform as well, still, there is
something really satisfying about a product that is unapologetically deluxe.
Certainly that applies to the 35/2 and 50/1.4 Super Takumars and
Super-Multi-Coated Takumars.

--Mike

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RE: a shot in the dark - OT re: the bodies in the night sky

2002-01-28 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Annsan wrote:
 I saw the planet and what appeared to be a moon _above and to the
 right_ of our moon.  The planet's moon was  about 4 oclock to the
 planet. THe planet was at um between 1 and 2 oclock to our moon.

Hi Annsan,

That's definitely Jupiter you saw, as David Dixon pointed out.  Jupiter
would have been about due east and 34 degrees above the horizon at 6:00 PM
EST from your location.  My grandson and I were looking at Jupiter through
my reflecting telescope (8 diameter aperture, 1200 mm focal length, f/6,
magnification 144 X) at about 9:30 PM EST Saturday night from our suburban
location upstate.  Glorious view, by the way.  I don't recall seeing
anything in the location you describe, but there are a couple of
3rd-magnitude stars belonging to the constellation Gemini at about the 8
o'clock and 2 o'clock positions using your coordinates, and a 4th-magnitude
star (also in Gemini) at about the 4 o'clock position.  This 4th-magnitude
star would have been about as far away from Jupiter as Jupiter is from the
Moon.  One of Jupiter's authentic moons, Callisto, would have been about
two-tenths of a degree away from Jupiter at the time you describe, in the
direction toward our Moon.  However, Callisto is about 7 magnitudes -- or
610 times -- less bright than Jupiter.  With the large magnitude difference,
the small separation, and the glare from the full Moon, you wouldn't have
seen this satellite of Jupiter with the naked eye.  However, you ~can~ see
these moons of Jupiter in a pair of well-steadied 10 x 50 binoculars.
Perhaps what you saw was either a background star (or perhaps a reflection
from your eyeglasses?).

Saturn, by the way, currently rises about two hours before Jupiter.  My
grandson and I looked at Saturn through the telescope as well -- also a
glorious site.  Trace a line in the sky from our Moon through Jupiter and
across the sky toward the western horizon.  Saturn is about 30 degrees to
the west of Jupiter along this line.  (Your clenched fist held at arm's
length subtends about ten degrees of sky from thumb to little finger, so
Saturn is three fist widths from Jupiter.)  Saturn is currently about 4
degrees above the star, Aldebaran -- a bright reddish orange star in the
constellation Taurus.  This pair stands out pretty well in my suburban
evening sky.  You'll probably need a telescope to see Saturn's rings, but
even an inexpensive refractor at low power (60 or 70 X) will give a pretty
view.

Well, more than you probably wanted to know, but hope this helps.  Good
seeing!

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Sas Gabor

Hi,

I'd go for a cheap screwmunt 50mm macro, like the russian 
Industar 61L/Z 2.8/50. I've bought mine new in box for about 20 
Euros a month ago on eBay.


Gabor
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Re: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread MPozzi

Hi Jason, I can answer a few of your points.
Point 1. 
Overriding the A from the lens, means going into M
(manual) or Tv (shutter priority)and is done using the
dial on the body. the green button on the front of the
body will bring you back to Program. There is no way
to get aperture priority from the body (answering also
point 3)
Not sure about the max F number, could be your lens
not giving correct info to the body. I vaguely
remember a similar discussion on the list but not
suresurely a list member will give an answer

. Bellows, I guess a Pentax/3rd party kmount bellows
are available 2nd hand, but not sure you'll find ones
(if they were ever made) maintaing any program
features... to double check you could check out:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/index.html

4. No help there..
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Re: New Pentax 645 Zoom lenses

2002-01-28 Thread tom

Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
 
 1) FA645 33-55
 2) FA645 55-110
 
 I don't know the speed. They both could be quite compact and desireable for
 that reason alone.
 the 33-55 is equivalent to a 20-35 for the 35mm system; the 55-110 is
 comparable to a 35-70 for the 35mm system. Both will be very well received
 I believe.

Bull! What the hell am I supposed to do with my 45-85!!??

Oh man, the thought of that 33-55 makes me weak in the knees...

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RE: New Pentax 645 Zoom lenses

2002-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts

Pål wrote:

1) FA645 33-55

I have never felt the desire for a zoom lens for my 645...until now.
AAARGH!

Must...resist...enablement...



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Re: Re: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one examplefor  flare

2002-01-28 Thread David Brooks

I had this happen on a shot using a 35-80 f4.5-5.6
Pentax zoom(no hood) shooting southerly,into
a hazy sun light wood scene last fall.I attributed this to
not having my hood on.Could be the same at your end.

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:58:00 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one 
examplefor  flare


Bernd,
     I thought the flare was strange, very unusual.  Could it be a 
spot of sunlight or reflection hitting the lens front?  Looks like 
you have an initial spot plus a reflection on an inner element.  
     Were you using the big hood supplied with the lens?  Where was 
the sun?
     Regards,  Bob S.




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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread Rfsindg

 Can someone tell me a ballpark price
 for fixing a sticky mirror problem
 and/or a CLA on an ME Super?

Tom,
A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
California - Chula Vista maybe?
Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Q: LX checkup

2002-01-28 Thread Christian Skofteland

$700 for an LX and Motordrive with nicads?  I'd say you got a pretty good 
deal. ;-)

If it's already been serviced for sticky-mirror you should be in good shape.

Christian

On Monday 28 January 2002 11:15, Matti wrote:
 Hi,

 I´m about to lay my hands on a Pentax LX for the first time in my life. It
 should arrive on wednesday. I would like to know any test procedures I
 should go through with the camera before paying the $700 requested by the
 seller. No, it´s not just for the body, a motordrive with fresh NiCd´s is
 included in the price. Is this price acceptable?

 According to the seller, the body is cosmetically near mint, but has been
 serviced for the sticky mirror. Should this be a major concern? The
 serial number of the body is 5279468, which dates it back to 1982.


   -Matti Eteläperä
   p:  040 - 525 4429
   web:www.student.oulu.fi/~matson
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Re: OT: new pics

2002-01-28 Thread Debra Wilborn

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Timo said:
  Hi!
  I have some new pics at my homepage;
  http://pp.hok.fi/hartikainen/kuvasivu.htm
 
 You rock.
 
 tv
 


You rock in the fullest sense of the word.  I love
your sense of color and composition.  You really
should do more color work.

Keep it coming,
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Re[4]: P67II or P645n

2002-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton

Pål,

Please report back your findings.  I would love to hear about it. Here
in the USA, it is apparently not released yet.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, January 28, 2002, 12:31:27 AM, you wrote:

PAJ Bruce wrote:


So when is the 645nII going to be available and where can I read about
the new changes/features?


PAJ It has been available here for over a month now. In fact, I plan to visit 
PAJ the Pentax distributor today and take a look at it.

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Re: Too Short Pentax Cable Switch F (Survey)

2002-01-28 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Too short most of the time, so I spliced 10m of rotor control cable into it
and made a really long cable.

I was spoiled with the IR shutter release my Rollei PS had, which really
worked out great for group pix. Unfortunately, the ZX-M has no such
provision, and I really hate having to set the little timer, run back to the
group, go back to the camera, back to the group, et cetera, also known as
group picture aerobics.

For tripod work, I simply coil up the extra cable and secure it with a
Velcro strap under the tripod.

t

On 1/27/02 12:04 PM, Ryan Charron wrote:

 Hello To All,
 
 Does anyone out there fell 3.3 feet long is way too
 short? And if so, what would be your ideal length?
 
 A Fellow Pentaxian,
 Ryan
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread aimcompute

Thanks Bob. I appreciate the response.  

Tom C.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA


  Can someone tell me a ballpark price
  for fixing a sticky mirror problem
  and/or a CLA on an ME Super?
 
 Tom,
 A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
 Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
 California - Chula Vista maybe?
 Regards,  Bob S.
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Re[2]: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton

Jason,

I'll take a stab at some of your questions -

1) Based on your description, it doesn't sound like the lens is really
set to automatic.  There should actually be an 'A' setting on the
lens.  I can believe some older  3rd party lenses might not have an
'A' setting, but I would be surprised to hear of a Pentax 'A' lens not
having an 'A' setting.  Can you give us more details on which lenses
those are - they sound more like 'M' or 'K' series lenses.  As to the
Tamron - is is an Adaptall lens?  Also, do you have any other Pentax
bodies that feature program mode that do allow program mode with these
lenses?  Again, I would think that no Pentax body functions as you
describe.  More input please.

2) I have the Pentax Auto Bellows A and I can report that the MZ-S
does not mate to it.  The base of the camera (no BG-10) hits into the
frame of the bellows and won't allow a solid mating.  I don't know if
there are any 3rd party bellows that would work.

3) No there is no way to control the F stop from the body.  Only the
aperture ring.

4)  Can't help you on this one.

5) I'm not sure what 2P synch is.  To use high-speed synch on the
AF360FGZ you have to set the camera to high speed synch and set the
flash to high speed synch.  Sorry, that is all I can tell you.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, January 28, 2002, 8:07:59 AM, you wrote:

VJ ...one more question
VJ Is there a preferred shutter speed when using the 2P sync?
VJ Pentax does not address the issue of sync capabilities in the manual, and it
VJ is confusing as to whether the high-speed sync is available.
VJ Jason


VJ -Original Message-
VJ From: Vick, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
VJ Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:24 AM
VJ To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
VJ Subject: MZ-S Questions


VJ I have been using the MZ-S for about 7 months and have come across a couple
VJ of glitches.  Does anyone have a workaround or kluge for these issues?
 
VJ 1.  With a lens set to Automatic there is no way (that I have found) to
VJ override the body switching to either the P or Tv mode.  This presents a
VJ problem with my Tamron SP90mm and other Pentax lenses, i.e., 50/1.4 50/1.7
VJ etc,  that have the A mode integrated with the highest f-stop e.g., F22/A,
VJ essentially rendering the highest f-stop unusable.  I have tried to adjust
VJ the f-stop to, for example, the f-22 position by adjusting the shutter
VJ speed, however, the body never sees an f-stop greater than f-16.
VJ Any ideas?
 
VJ 2. Is there a bellows that works with the MZ-S?
 
VJ 3. Further to question 1, if the lens is set to A mode, is there a way to
VJ control the f-stop from the body?
 
VJ 4. What are the specs of the wireless RF channels associated with off-camera
VJ flash sync of the body.  Pentax said the channels are industry standard
VJ frequencies.  However, I am looking at a couple of different flash heads
VJ that have different frequencies assigned to the same channel.
 
VJ Thanks
VJ Jason
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Re: Q: LX checkup

2002-01-28 Thread Rfsindg

Matti,

Take the motor drive off the body.  There are two holes in the body where the motor 
drives the film winding.  Make sure the motordrive has the two plugs for the body 
securely stored into the screw in slots on the top of the motordrive.

Of course, you will NOT fire the camera for the first time until you can check/see the 
mirror moving when you do.  It sounds like no sticky mirror, but good to check it 
yourself after the camera has sat for a while.

Regards,  Bob S.

On Monday 28 January 2002 11:15, Matti wrote:
 Hi,

 I´m about to lay my hands on a Pentax LX for the first time in my life. It
 should arrive on wednesday. I would like to know any test procedures I
 should go through with the camera before paying the $700 requested by the
 seller. No, it´s not just for the body, a motordrive with fresh NiCd´s is
 included in the price. Is this price acceptable?

 According to the seller, the body is cosmetically near mint, but has been
 serviced for the sticky mirror. Should this be a major concern? The
 serial number of the body is 5279468, which dates it back to 1982.


   -Matti Eteläperä
   p:  040 - 525 4429
   web:www.student.oulu.fi/~matson
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Re: P67II or P645n

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 It has been available here for over a month now. In fact, I plan to visit
 the Pentax distributor today and take a look at it.


Excellent! I trust we can look forward to a report...?

--Mike
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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Dan Scott

Hi Leon,

IIRC, the instruction booklet for my bellows advises against anything
faster than f1.7, though it doesn't give a reason. A cheap A 50/2 works
just fine on mine, but I haven't added a teleconverter to it so I couldn't
guess whether it would be bright enough to focus.

Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

I am looking at permanently attaching a 50 mm lens reverse mounted on
my bellows - I usually use my FA50f1.4, but I'm starting to get annoyed
with taking it apart and putting it back together again.  The question
I need answered is, as I'm going to dedicate a lens to the bellows,
which one would be best for my needs?

I generally shoot with the lens stopped down to f16 or f22 to get the
greatest depth of field.  My subjects are 3 dimensional, so a flat
field of focus is not 100% necessary.  My subjects also tend to hide
from bright lights, so I can't use extra light to help me focus, and at
full extension of the bellows and a 2 times converter between the
camera and bellows (7 times magnification to the film), any extra light
is a bonus.

I'll probably end up with a K or M f1.4 or a K f1.2, but the closest I
have come to an f1.2 is picking one up at a swap meet, so I have no
idea of it's optical performance compared with an f1.4 (particularly
reverse mounted on bellows for macro use).

So my question to all you knowledgable people out there is: is a 50 mm
f1.2 as sharp as an f1.4 when stopped down between f11 and f22, and is
there anything you know about these lenses that I should know before I
go out and try to buy one?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
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Favorite Body Roll Call Results UPDATE 14

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the winner category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing hey, you
must put all this or that together. Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 20 votes.

Members: 73

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (4)
- K2 (1)
- K2 DMD (1)
- MX (7)
- LX (20)
- Super Program (2)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (5)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (1)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (6)
- 67 (1)
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Favorite Lens Roll Call Results UPDATE 46

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 151


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (3)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (5)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (2)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (3)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (7)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Re[2]: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread Alexander Krohe

Bruce wrote: 
2) I have the Pentax Auto Bellows A and I can report
that the MZ-S does not mate to it.  The base of the
camera (no BG-10) hits into the frame of the bellows
and won't allow a solid mating.  I don't know if
there are any 3rd party bellows that would work.

Insert a narrow extension ring between body and
bellows.
Alexander
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Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 146

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other
members,thanks.
Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started
this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way.
Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly
in your message: this is not my first submission, so I don't put you twice
in
the total answers.
Thanks to all contributors.

TOTAL ANSWERS: 452 members
MANUAL FOCUS:

Screw Mount:
- Asahiflex IIa5
- Asahiflex IIb6
- Asahi Pentax (AP)5
- K4
- SL...8
- SV..11
- S1...3
- S1a.11
- S2...2
- S3...5
- SP500...14
- SP1000..12
- Spotmatic...35
- Spotmatic II18
- Spotmatic IIa2
- Spotmatic SP34
- Spotmatic SP II.15
- Spotmatic F.43
- Spotmatic F MD...2
- Spotmatic MD.3
- ES..18
- ES II...25
- ElectroSpotmatic.4
- H1...2
- H1a..5
- H2...5
- H3...7
- H3v..5

Bayonette:

- KM..18
- KX..45
- KX MD1
- K2..42
- K2 DMD..11
- K1000...86
- K1000 SE.9
- MX.135
- ME..43
- MF-1.1
- ME SE2
- ME Super...141
- ME Super SE..4
- MV...7
- MV1..2
- MG..13
- LX.155
- Super Program...78
- Super A.47
- Program Plus18
- Program A...10
- A30004
- A3...2
- A3(date).1
- P3...8
- P3n..8
- P30..8
- P30n.1
- P30t14
- P5...8
- P50..3
- ZX M25
- MZ M15

AUTOFOCUS:

- ME F11
- SF 1.5
- SFX..3
- SF 1n8
- SFXn14
- SF 7.2
- SF 107
- PZ 118
- PZ 1 SE..2
- Z1..25
- PZ 1p...72
- Z1p.41
- Z5...2
- Z5p..1
- PZ 105
- Z 10.5
- PZ 20...13
- Z 20.4
- Z 50p2
- PZ 706
- Z 70.1
- MZ S28
- MZ 322
- ZX 511
- MZ 515
- ZX 5n...58
- MZ 5n...40
- ZX 7.9
- MZ 7.8
- ZX 10...10
- MZ 10...14
- ZX 308
- MZ 301
- ZX 508
- MZ 50...11

MEDIUM FORMAT:
- 645.18
- 645n.4
- 6x7.18
- 67...9
- 67 II7
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RE: Buying out of date film.

2002-01-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Back in '89 I purchased 90 rolls of
Kodachrome 64-36 at 10 cents a roll!
It was 1 month out of date. After testing the
first roll which came out beautiful I
froze the rest and used thoughout the
1990's with no problems. I still have 
a few rolls left
JCO
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Ctein's site

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 Here's the URL for Ctein's site.

Ctein is one of the few masters of the arcane process of dye transfer
printing. All of his original prints are 16 x 20 dye transfers and they are
drop-dead lovely prints. Also, all of his pictures were taken with Pentax
6x7s and 67s.

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 --- Ctein's Online Gallery
 --- http://www.plaidworks.com/ctein/
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Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 37

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 10 votes.

Members: 97

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (4)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (7)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (2)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (10)
Kodak T400 CN (1)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread Bob Blakely

Just fixing a sticky mirror is one thing. CLA on an LX is another. I would expect that 
if
the infamous sticky mirror problem exists, than it's time for other things as well. 
There
are seals on the LX that don't last forever. By the time sticky mirror shows up, it 
may be
prudent to have these replaced as well. This is no small job and the seals are not 
free.
Further, just checking (let alone adjusting) all the things that need checking on an 
LX is
somewhat time consuming. I can't imagine that $40 can buy more than an hour's work and
probably less. This would be entirely insufficient to CLA an LX. Three hours with a
knowledgeable and practiced tech with all the appropriate special tools would be about
right, I would think this should be about $150 or there about.

Just my guess from having watched a thorough job done.

Regards,
Bob...

Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
- Samuel Adams, 1771

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Can someone tell me a ballpark price
  for fixing a sticky mirror problem
  and/or a CLA on an ME Super?

 Tom,
 A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
 Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
 California - Chula Vista maybe?
 Regards,  Bob S.
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Pentax 645N II NEW FEATURES

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

Here is what I have from Pentax as to the features of the upcoming new
version of the 645N:


645N II

--Same award winning design as the 645N, with added features requested by
photographers

--Mirror-up function eliminates vibrations caused by mirror movement during
critical long exposures

--User selectable exposure compensation and bracketing increments of 1/2 EV
or 1/3 EV within a +/-3 EV range

--On-the film imprinting information now includes the total number of film
rolls used in the camera, focusing mode, ISO film speed setting, use of AE
lock and/or auto bracketing functions, use of flash synchronization, along
with the information imprinted in the 645N

--10 user selectable PENTAX functions allow the camera to be customized to
the photographer's needs

--Accepts the new generation of electronic accessories including the CS-105
and CS-130 Cable Switches and the TS-110 Release Timer Switch (as used with
the MZ-S), as well as a standard cable release

--New textured matte finish (similar to the MZ-S) that is 1.7 times thicker
than a normal coating


It looks cool in the pictures, too. Sort of like an armor-plated 645N.

--Mike


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Re[3]: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton

Alexander,

You are probably right.  I just don't have any tubes hanging around.
maybe I'll have to pick one up now.


Bruce



Monday, January 28, 2002, 11:23:39 AM, you wrote:

AK Bruce wrote: 
AK 2) I have the Pentax Auto Bellows A and I can report
AK that the MZ-S does not mate to it.  The base of the
AK camera (no BG-10) hits into the frame of the bellows
AK and won't allow a solid mating.  I don't know if
AK there are any 3rd party bellows that would work.

AK Insert a narrow extension ring between body and
AK bellows.
AK Alexander
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Re:test?

2002-01-28 Thread Mike Johnston

 Subject: Test
 
 Test



Augh! And I haven't studied.

Well, same as it ever was.

--Mike
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Re: Q: LX checkup

2002-01-28 Thread Peter Alling

Depending on the condition, I would consider this a more than acceptable
amount.

In my case I would fire all of the shutter speeds manually to see if they
seem to be at least close then expose a role of slide film using the camera 
under
various lighting conditions, (If you have the time to get it developed to 
check
for meter accuracy). Try a flash, preferably a dedicated unit
to make sure that all flash functions work correctly.  Make sure that the
Motor's batteries will hold a charge, You don't mention if you're getting a 
charger
unit, make sure you do.  Service for sticky mirror is a good point you 
shouldn't
have to worry about that.  These cameras generally fetch $500 - $600 or so 
on E-Bay in
close to mint condition.  A NiCd pack is about $150 - $200 and the Motor 
$300+, looks
like you've got a good deal.

At 06:15 PM 1/28/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi,

I´m about to lay my hands on a Pentax LX for the first time in my life. It
should arrive on wednesday. I would like to know any test procedures I
should go through with the camera before paying the $700 requested by the
seller. No, it´s not just for the body, a motordrive with fresh NiCd´s is
included in the price. Is this price acceptable?

According to the seller, the body is cosmetically near mint, but has been
serviced for the sticky mirror. Should this be a major concern? The
serial number of the body is 5279468, which dates it back to 1982.


   -Matti Eteläperä
 p:  040 - 525 4429
 web:www.student.oulu.fi/~matson
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread aimcompute

Thanks Bob, I appreciate the feedback.

I had advertised my ME Super last Friday with the sticky mirror syndrome.
Has happened twice in two years.  It seems that it may hardly be worth it to
repair the M-series anymore, aside from sentimental value.

What does everybody else think about this?

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA


 Just fixing a sticky mirror is one thing. CLA on an LX is another. I would
expect that if
 the infamous sticky mirror problem exists, than it's time for other things
as well. There
 are seals on the LX that don't last forever. By the time sticky mirror
shows up, it may be
 prudent to have these replaced as well. This is no small job and the seals
are not free.
 Further, just checking (let alone adjusting) all the things that need
checking on an LX is
 somewhat time consuming. I can't imagine that $40 can buy more than an
hour's work and
 probably less. This would be entirely insufficient to CLA an LX. Three
hours with a
 knowledgeable and practiced tech with all the appropriate special tools
would be about
 right, I would think this should be about $150 or there about.

 Just my guess from having watched a thorough job done.

 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
 and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
 from the former, for the sake of the latter.
 The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
 for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
 and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
 suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
 we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
 It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
 unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
 - Samuel Adams, 1771

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Can someone tell me a ballpark price
   for fixing a sticky mirror problem
   and/or a CLA on an ME Super?
 
  Tom,
  A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
  Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
  California - Chula Vista maybe?
  Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Which ringlight, AF-080C or AF-140C?

2002-01-28 Thread Jostein

- Original Message -
From: Frantisek Vlcek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How can that be? AF500 FTZ's guide number is lower than 400-T's
guide
 number, no? The 500 number is inflated for zooming out to 85 (Gosh,
is
 Metz the only manufacturer who doesn't lie about their flashes guide
 number? Or only a little bit? GN is measured for 35mm lens coverage,
 that's a standard. It was always so g), while the 400 has the 40
 GN at 28mm or 35mm coverage, no?

Frantisek,
According to the manuals you are absolutely right:

At ISO 100, with 28mm zoom:
AF400T: GN = 40
AF500FTZ: GN = 32

But this just means that both of them are more than powerful enough to
illuminate subjects that are,say, 50cm from the lens.

When I tested them side by side last summer, I used the 500 at 24mm
zoom, and it still burned out the highlights more than did the 400T.
Most of the subjects were shot at 1:1 with the Z-1 and a FA100/2.8
macro, with TTL and aperture priority at 1/250 second exposure.

There must be something other than GN that cause the 400T to give more
correct exposures. I'm not sure what it is...

Jostein
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RE: Ctein's site

2002-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts

Mike Johnston wrote:

 Here's the URL for Ctein's site.
 http://www.plaidworks.com/ctein/

BTW - Here's a question that's long puzzled me: How is Ctein pronounced?




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Mark Roberts
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Re: AF teleconverter 1.7

2002-01-28 Thread Jostein

- Original Message -
From: Frits J. Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 something closer by then infinity. Does it move back to infinity
when I
 switch off my PZ-1? Or do I need to AF focus on something at
infinity before
 switching the camera off to reset the converter?

Frits,
The TC doesn't move focus without aid.
The simplest way is to let the Z-1 do the job for you, but you don't
have to focus on anything. If the AF goes hunting, the TC always ends
up at infinity setting.

Best,
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Re[2]: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton

Tom,

I, too, believe that it is hardly worth it.  There are three possible
reasons that come to mind.  Each may be of different worth to an
individual.  1) sentimental reasons, 2) feel/handling of older
mechanical bodies, 3) need for no autowinder found on all newer
bodies.

Certainly the money spent can easily exceed the value of the camera.
It seems that about the only exception is the LX.  Even parts are
getting scarce for many of the bodies.  When that happens to the LX,
it, too may not be worth attempting to fix.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, January 28, 2002, 11:48:31 AM, you wrote:

a Thanks Bob, I appreciate the feedback.

a I had advertised my ME Super last Friday with the sticky mirror syndrome.
a Has happened twice in two years.  It seems that it may hardly be worth it to
a repair the M-series anymore, aside from sentimental value.

a What does everybody else think about this?

a Tom C.

a - Original Message -
a From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:39 PM
a Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA


 Just fixing a sticky mirror is one thing. CLA on an LX is another. I would
a expect that if
 the infamous sticky mirror problem exists, than it's time for other things
a as well. There
 are seals on the LX that don't last forever. By the time sticky mirror
a shows up, it may be
 prudent to have these replaced as well. This is no small job and the seals
a are not free.
 Further, just checking (let alone adjusting) all the things that need
a checking on an LX is
 somewhat time consuming. I can't imagine that $40 can buy more than an
a hour's work and
 probably less. This would be entirely insufficient to CLA an LX. Three
a hours with a
 knowledgeable and practiced tech with all the appropriate special tools
a would be about
 right, I would think this should be about $150 or there about.

 Just my guess from having watched a thorough job done.

 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
 and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
 from the former, for the sake of the latter.
 The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
 for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
 and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
 suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
 we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
 It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
 unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
 - Samuel Adams, 1771

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


   Can someone tell me a ballpark price
   for fixing a sticky mirror problem
   and/or a CLA on an ME Super?
 
  Tom,
  A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
  Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
  California - Chula Vista maybe?
  Regards,  Bob S.
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ME Super Metering Pattern?

2002-01-28 Thread Albano_Garcia

Hi gang,
somebody knows where to find it?
Regards

AG
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Re: Help: LX-numbers again

2002-01-28 Thread Cotty

Hi Peter,

According to what I've learned from Pentax/Scandinavia
- - the first number is for the factory that built the LX
- - the second is for the year is was built (0 = 1990,1 = 1991, 2 = 1992 etc)
They started with this type of numbers in 1990. Before that batchnumbers
were put on some more interior part of the cameras.

Any hints as to exact location - or are they really interior, like buried 
unless a complete stripdown happens?

- - the third position is for the month it was built (1,2,3,.. 0,x,y,z)
- - the forth number is the week
- - the last two have something to do with type variations. The pentax people
were not very clear about that.
Does that make sense?

Perfect sense. My problem is that I've just loaded up again with some 
Fuji Cheapandchearia again and forgot to look! I think I might just 
rewind into the can and have a peek...

Many thanks,

Cotty

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Re: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one example for flare

2002-01-28 Thread Familie Scheffler

 The actual link is:
 http://www.bienenbernd.de
 isn't it?
 (there is a 'n' less than the one you said)
 It doesn't work well with Netscape.

Sorry for that. I will install Netscape to test it and to work on that. (The
first version of my homepage was made by my son. Now I am trying to loosen
from his help. I regret, he has no intention to think of people using
Netscape.)

 Were you using the big hood supplied with the lens?  Where was the sun?

Well, before you asked I was sure I used the big lenshood. But now ...
The pictures was taken on the old cementory in Salzburg/Austria, and the sun
came from the left from above the trees.

Regards, Bernd
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Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #2030

2002-01-28 Thread Jeff Post

Tom,
 The person Bob is thinking of is Klaus.  Here is his email address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
He did a CLA on my MESuper, although I did not have a sticky mirror.  All 
the seals were replaced and everything was lubricated.  I forget what the 
shipping costs were, but the price was $40 plus shipping.

 Jeff

At 02:21 PM 1/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:06:46 -0700
From: aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

Thanks Bob. I appreciate the response.

Tom C.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA


   Can someone tell me a ballpark price
   for fixing a sticky mirror problem
   and/or a CLA on an ME Super?
 
  Tom,
  A guy on ebay was offering $40 CLA's by mail.
  Perhaps somebody kept the link to his email.
  California - Chula Vista maybe?
  Regards,  Bob S.
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Re[3]: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread Alexander Krohe

It works, but the disadvantage is you can't move the 
rear part (where the camera is mounted) along the
rail. Yet focusing works by moving the front part and
the entire camera-bellows along the rail. 
Alexander   


Bruce wrote:--
Alexander,

You are probably right.  I just don't have any tubes
hanging around.
maybe I'll have to pick one up now.

Bruce


Monday, January 28, 2002, 11:23:39 AM, you wrote:

AK Bruce wrote: 
AK 2) I have the Pentax Auto Bellows A and I can
report
AK that the MZ-S does not mate to it.  The base of
the
AK camera (no BG-10) hits into the frame of the
bellows
AK and won't allow a solid mating.  I don't know if
AK there are any 3rd party bellows that would work.

AK Insert a narrow extension ring between body and
AK bellows.
AK Alexander
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RE: Re[3]: MZ-S Questions

2002-01-28 Thread Vick, Jason

Alexander,
You are right.  That is a good idea and would provide some (which is more
than I have now!) albeit limited functionality.   Given the length of the
distance between the bottom of where the lens attaches and the base of the
camera (even w/o the BG-10), this would allow moving the back portion of the
bellows a distance that corresponds to the distance the extension ring
extends beyond the rear portion of the rail of the bellows.  

I will try this with the Auto Bellow and post the results.
Jason



Alexander,

You are probably right.  I just don't have any tubes hanging around.
maybe I'll have to pick one up now.


Bruce



Monday, January 28, 2002, 11:23:39 AM, you wrote:

AK Bruce wrote: 
AK 2) I have the Pentax Auto Bellows A and I can report
AK that the MZ-S does not mate to it.  The base of the
AK camera (no BG-10) hits into the frame of the bellows
AK and won't allow a solid mating.  I don't know if
AK there are any 3rd party bellows that would work.

AK Insert a narrow extension ring between body and
AK bellows.
AK Alexander
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Re: Ctein's site

2002-01-28 Thread Delano Mireles

Straight off his site:

If you phone, my name is pronounced kuh-TINE (well, it's pronounced that
way whether or not you phone). Email is the most reliable method, as I check
it twice a day when I'm home.


on 1/28/02 1:52 PM, Mark Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike Johnston wrote:
 
 Here's the URL for Ctein's site.
 http://www.plaidworks.com/ctein/
 
 BTW - Here's a question that's long puzzled me: How is Ctein pronounced?
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Re: FS: pentax SFXn in perfect cond; SMC F 1.4/50 lens (together or separately)

2002-01-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, January 28, 2002, 2:27:16 PM, Collin wrote:
CB Hey Pentax brother,
CB   Don't get the M lenses!
CB   'K' for best overall optical design, or 'A' for color  contrast improvements.  
Even the SuperMultiCoated Tak 50/1.4 would be better than the 'M' and would look nice 
on a KX! 

CB Collin  :)

Hi brother Collin ;) !

Shame on you! I had it all sorted out nicely, now I again don't know
which one to get :-( Or where to get a K. Would it suprise you that I
missed one K 1.4/50 with dented ring but otherwise good on Ebay some
time ago, which finally went for ~35 Euros (!!!), just because our
local phone provider changed our number and forgot to enable my
internet dialup connection permission!!!

BTW, what do you mean by best overall optical design? Does it really
differ over the M? It should be completely same design!

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Mike, where's Ctein's website? I read his articles in Ed Buziak's
magazine and I liked them a lot! BTW, know what's with Ed's magazine?
I didn't see any update or new issue mentioned on his site for more
than half a year! He didn't answer my friend's email about
subscription too :( So I wonder, is it still up, or has it gone down the drain of
good photography magazines, like most of the other ones?

Good luck with your 37th frame :) I would have liked to subscribe too.
Perhaps someday, when the $ exhange rate gets better :)

Frantisek
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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Leon,
   I am sorry I can't help you much with your specific questions, but
   perhaps you will find my post helpful anyway :)

   1) the 2x TC - this is more a question. Wouldn't it be better
   directly beyond the lens? It's usually the recommended situation.

   2) You do 7:1 magnification, right? At such large magnification,
   I think any small coverage fast lens would cover easily the entire
   24x36mm negative! Have you considered an old movie lens, lf shorter
   focal length? You would get greater DOF too, although with a
   different angle of view. The C mount lenses for 16mm movie cameras
   could be useful for this, and can be really cheap as well as plenty
   fast.

   Frantisek
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Re: Differences between Z-1 and Z1-p

2002-01-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, January 28, 2002, 2:04:20 PM, Rfsindg wrote:
Rac Frantisek,
Rac Neil is right.  There is no separate flash compensation on the Z-1.  It's a
Rac fine camera, but I added a Z-1p that a list member was retiring for the 
Rac separate flash compensation (fill flash) and the faster winder speed (~3.5 
Rac fps vs 2 fps).
Rac Regards,  Bob S.

Hi Bob,
   thanks for the correction. It could be that my friend's body is
   indeed the Z1p, and I have mistaken it for the Z1. It's a pity
   though, separate flash compensation is about the ONLY think that's
   drawing me towards Z1p camera. I can have most other features
   (excluding AF g) on the older bodies, at least those features
   that are useful for me (oops, I forgot the Hyper modes. These are
   definitely second thing drawing me towards Z1p!)

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: New Enlarger Up and Running

2002-01-28 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, January 28, 2002, 3:47:28 PM, Mike wrote:
 Hi, what's a Dichro head?
 
 And which one would by my head? (Meopta Colour 3, 3 CMY filter wheels
 plus one ND wheel, halogen lightsource)

MJ Frantisek,
MJ That's a dichro (dichroic) head.

MJ --Mike

Oh! Pity. Does that mean I have to trash it?

...
...

;-))

Couldn't resist. Does it resemble the posts at Nikon groups about
non-OEM lenses g ?




Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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[no subject]

2002-01-28 Thread Alexander Krohe

Jason wrote: ---
Alexander,
You are right.  That is a good idea and would provide
some (which is more than I have now!) albeit limited
functionality.   Given the length of the distance
between the bottom of where the lens attaches and the
base of the camera (even w/o the BG-10), this would
allow moving the back portion of the bellows a
distance that corresponds to the distance the
extension ring extends beyond the rear portion of the
rail of the bellows.  

I will try this with the Auto Bellow and post the
results.
Jason
---
Jason, I didn't try a larger extension ring but this
is a good idea as it will allow some adjustments of
the rear portion particularly for longer focal
lengths. However, it will limit the usage of shorter
focal lengths with the bellows. The minimum extension
of the Auto bellows is, I think, somewhat at around
40mm. There is always a trade-off. 
Enjoy, 
Alexander
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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Marc,

I'm in the same boat.  Started posting about a year ago, more or less.  Had some
Spotmatic bodies, and some m42 lenses.

Just in the last coupla weeks, got an MX, MV, M-series 2.0 50mm.  Now I gotta
start looking for lenses for my k-mounts!

And all my Yashica Mat is doing is making me lust for a 67 (or a 645, if the
price is right).

Does it ever end?  Damn, damn, damn...

What am I saying - I love it!

regards,
frank


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:01 PM
 Subject: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

  Geez...
 
  I innocently joined this list just because my Spotmatics and I felt a bit
  insecure among all the Canon and Nikon aficionados out there.
 
  A week or two after joining the list, I took the plunge and bought a PZ-1p
  with a handy-dandy 28-70 f/4 zoom, and have been obsessing mightily.
 
  Now, I'm lusting after the 645, and have casually mentioned to my wife the
  possiblity of converting a section of the garage into a darkroom.
 
  I'm a dead man.
 
 
 
  Marc in Oregon
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Tom,

My situation is a bit different than yours, but you might recall that I posted
extensively on the weekend about an MX that I recently acquired whose mirror
hangs up occasionally.

I brought it in to the local repair shop (Kominek's in Toronto).  He seemed to
think that a CLA would do the trick, but he'll look at the mirror mechanism
specifically while he's in there.  CLA at Komineks on an MX will be $150
Canadian, which as you all know is probably a bit less than $100US.

It's worth it for me, not for sentimental reasons - I intend on using the camera
extensively.  But, here in Toronto, it seems that MX's (when you can find them!)
go for anywhere from $350 to $400Cdn.  The repair shop has a waiting list for
used MX's, and he said that if he were selling the one that I brought in, he'd
ask $400 (after the CLA).  I was at Henry's on Saturday, and they have two of
them, one for $369, and another for $400 (a black one).

How relevent any of this is to your situation, I don't know...

regards,
frank

aimcompute wrote:

 Thanks Bob, I appreciate the feedback.

 I had advertised my ME Super last Friday with the sticky mirror syndrome.
 Has happened twice in two years.  It seems that it may hardly be worth it to
 repair the M-series anymore, aside from sentimental value.

 What does everybody else think about this?


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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread CBWaters

First read list:
One SLR, One Prime lens

After almost two years on (and off) the list:
Three bodies, five lenses (and looking)

I guess I'm getting off easy :)

Cory Waters
*needs* longer, shorter, and faster glass!
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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Bob Blakely

At the f/stop you are choosing, you will be entirely diffraction limited. Even a
reasonable piece of Coke (TM) bottle glass would work just as good as the best NASA 
optics
if it weren't for the green cast. (Just a little hyperboli there, but not much...) Get 
f/2
or better optics if you want to focus better.

Regards,
Bob...

Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
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From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:11:48 -0800, Bob Blakely wrote:

 Have you considered divesting yourself if the converter entirely and using a 24 or 
28mm
 lens backwards?

 I did play with this at one point but found that it was a bit dark in
 the viewfinder.  I might try it again before I buy a new lens.  But
 that brings up the question which 28mm?

  Leon
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Somewhat amusing....

2002-01-28 Thread gabriel bovino

I don't know how I found this page...

But it gives an illustrated step-by-step procedure on how to repair you
screwmount lens...

Have fun!

Gabe
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Re: This List Should Have Warning Labels...

2002-01-28 Thread aimcompute

Pretty much the same here.

I had 1 body, 3 prime lenses, 1 Vivitar flash.

Now, including those I've purchased for myself and other immediate family
members...

5 bodies
6 prime lenses
4 zooms
1 macro lens
1 set of extension tubes
1 macro rail
2 flash units

There's an end in sight though.  After a 67II, the only thing left to get
will be 6x7 lenses.

Plus a better ball-head, plus a big photo back pack, plus filters to fit the
lenses, plus...

Tom C.








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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:14 PM
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 First read list:
 One SLR, One Prime lens

 After almost two years on (and off) the list:
 Three bodies, five lenses (and looking)

 I guess I'm getting off easy :)

 Cory Waters
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Lens cleaning to Pentax

2002-01-28 Thread gabriel bovino

Has anyone every sent their lenses into Pentax to be disassembled and cleaned?
If so, is it a fixed price they charge for this procedure or does it vary from
lens to lens.  Does anyone know how much it costs?

Gabe
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Re: Somewhat amusing....

2002-01-28 Thread Len Paris

And which page was that?

Len
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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: Somewhat amusing


 I don't know how I found this page...

 But it gives an illustrated step-by-step procedure on how to
repair you
 screwmount lens...

 Have fun!

 Gabe
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Re: Somewhat amusing....

2002-01-28 Thread gabriel bovino

I guess it would help if I told you what the page was..

http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html


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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:36 PM
Subject: Somewhat amusing


 I don't know how I found this page...
 
 But it gives an illustrated step-by-step procedure on how to repair you
 screwmount lens...
 
 Have fun!
 
 Gabe
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Re: Somewhat amusing....

2002-01-28 Thread CBWaters

now, I've done this a few times and it feels bad but when you're NOT the one
who forgot the link it IS somewhat amusing ;)

Cory Waters
No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However,
a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:36 PM
Subject: Somewhat amusing


 I don't know how I found this page...

 But it gives an illustrated step-by-step procedure on how to repair you
 screwmount lens...

 Have fun!

 Gabe
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Pentax 28mm/2.8

2002-01-28 Thread Richard Chu

There are some mixed comments recently about the
performance of the Pentax SMC-M 28mm f/2.8. 
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ site indicates that there
are two versions of the SMC-M 28mm f/2.8.  I wonder if
those who are disappointed have one version and those
who are satisfied have the other version.  It also
seems that the version 2 referred at the website
might have the same optical formula as the A and the
F 28mm lens.  Does anyone have any information on
how the A and the F 28mm compare with the M?
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Re: Ctein's site

2002-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts

The inimitable TV wrote:

 Ok, question #2 - Why does he go by one name?

Perhaps he doesn't feel the need to differentiate himself from all the other
Cteins out there. ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: 50mm lenses for bellows use.

2002-01-28 Thread Peter Alling

You can get a f1.7 or f2.0 M pentax lens for less that $20.00 US if the point
is to permanently mount a 50mm reversed on the bellows I would make the 
minimal
investment in either of those.  I think that in general the 1.7 has a flatter
field of view.  Unlike earlier bargain lenses such as the 55mm 1.8/2.0 
combination
The 2.0 is a different optical design.

At 02:11 PM 1/28/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Have you considered divesting yourself if the converter entirely and using 
a 24 or 28mm
lens backwards?

Regards,
Bob...

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and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
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we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
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From: Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Hi Leon...
 
  I'd avoid either of the fast 50's and go with a 1.7 or 2. With the 1.2 and
  1.4 you'll get out-of-focus corners which may be fine for some shots but a
  nasty surprise at other times. The slower lenses will work better for all
  subjects. For more, refer to the Macro question... thread from last week.
 
  BTW, I just wanted to compliment you on your Bek photo in this month's
  PUG. The composition was well done.
 
  t
 
  On 1/28/02 2:30 AM, Leon Altoff wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   I am looking at permanently attaching a 50 mm lens reverse mounted on
   my bellows - I usually use my FA50f1.4, but I'm starting to get annoyed
   with taking it apart and putting it back together again.  The question
   I need answered is, as I'm going to dedicate a lens to the bellows,
   which one would be best for my needs?
  
   I generally shoot with the lens stopped down to f16 or f22 to get the
   greatest depth of field.  My subjects are 3 dimensional, so a flat
   field of focus is not 100% necessary.  My subjects also tend to hide
   from bright lights, so I can't use extra light to help me focus, and at
   full extension of the bellows and a 2 times converter between the
   camera and bellows (7 times magnification to the film), any extra light
   is a bonus.
  
   I'll probably end up with a K or M f1.4 or a K f1.2, but the closest I
   have come to an f1.2 is picking one up at a swap meet, so I have no
   idea of it's optical performance compared with an f1.4 (particularly
   reverse mounted on bellows for macro use).
  
   So my question to all you knowledgable people out there is: is a 50 mm
   f1.2 as sharp as an f1.4 when stopped down between f11 and f22, and is
   there anything you know about these lenses that I should know before I
   go out and try to buy one?
  
   Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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P67 90mm Leaf shutter Lens question

2002-01-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell

 P67 90mm Leaf shutter Lens question:

When using this lens, does the viewfinder black out
once you cock the leaf shutter or does it function
just as if it were not a leaf shutter lens?
I just bought one off ebay and I'm very curious
about it's operation. 

Also, is there a way to use it just like a non-
leaf shutter lens?

I understand Pentax no longer services the 90mm 
lense's shutter.

JCO
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread Rfsindg

Bob,
I agree about the $150 for a CLA on an LX.
The $40 answer was for an ME Super.
Question was inclosed, see below...
Regards,  Bob S.

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   Can someone tell me a ballpark price
   for fixing a sticky mirror problem
   and/or a CLA on an ME Super? 
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store wound or ?

2002-01-28 Thread CBWaters

Does it make any difference if I wind my Super Program before I set it down
for a few days?  I KNOW that I risk unintended exposure (gasp!) if I don't
set it to lock.  I'm just wondering if there';s a risk of some spring
fatigue or whatever... I have developed the habit of winding right after
each frame in case I want to take another, then deciding not to

This winding the film yourself is kinda cool :)  I hadn't done that since my
Kodak 110 several years ago.  I ditched that camera after having a roll of
pictures I took at the Grand Canyon turn out looking like dog snot.
Couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that the camera and film had
been in the car for a year...nope, 110 was a doomed format BG

Cory Waters
Got really nervous that he'd mis-loaded the Super Program's first roll since
it kept firing right past frames 25,67...
It seems he bought some 36 rolls inadvertently!
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread Bob Blakely

Roger that, Bob.

Frankly, I'd never heard of the ME Super having a sticky mirror problem and instantly
assumed LX despite the clear text to the contrary. Hey! How many senior moments per 
year
do I get? I hope the hell it's 12 'cause I didn't even manage to get out of January 
before
screwing up!

Regards,
Bob...

Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
from the former, for the sake of the latter.
The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
- Samuel Adams, 1771

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Bob,
 I agree about the $150 for a CLA on an LX.
 The $40 answer was for an ME Super.
 Question was inclosed, see below...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Can someone tell me a ballpark price
for fixing a sticky mirror problem
and/or a CLA on an ME Super? 
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Re: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one example for flare

2002-01-28 Thread Alan Chan

Well, before you asked I was sure I used the big lenshood. But now ...
The pictures was taken on the old cementory in Salzburg/Austria, and the 
sun
came from the left from above the trees.

I have a picture which shows similar flare too, and the hood was used.

regards,
Alan Chan

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RE: wide-angle: pictures made with FA*24/2.0 and one example for flare

2002-01-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell

EWW, Flare
I dont ever recall getting any with my 24mm F3.5 SMCT.
JCO
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 for flare


 Well, before you asked I was sure I used the big lenshood. But now ...
 The pictures was taken on the old cementory in Salzburg/Austria, and the
 sun
 came from the left from above the trees.

 I have a picture which shows similar flare too, and the hood was used.

 regards,
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Re: Vivitar Series 1 28-105, Sigma 35-85, vs. new Tokina 28-105

2002-01-28 Thread John Glover

A really nice new lens on your budget would be the Tamron 28-105/4-5.6 or the Tokina 
28-105.  Both are terrific values for the money.  The Tamron is nice and light and a 
really decent performer.generally around $150 or so new (I paid $158 for mine).  
The Tokina is heavier and a better build, and a bit closer to the $200 mark I think, 
but an excellent lens.  Both of these are autofocus lens, ideal for the ZX-5n.

I've heard nothing but bad things about the Sigma 28-105/2.8-4...not real sharp, poor 
contrast, not a very highly rated lens.  The Vivitar has been rated both as generally 
pretty good, or generally pretty lousy..depends on whose review you look at!

The FA28-70/4 is outstanding!  It is a bit slow but if you go with the new 800 speed 
films, you just might be alright.  A really good lens in the 28-70/2.8 category is a 
used Tokina, but these are probably a bit over your budget...they seem to list and 
sell for around $235 or so in good condition.

John
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From: Debra Wilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:11 PM
Subject: Vivitar Series 1 28-105, Sigma 35-85, vs. new Tokina 28-105


 I'm looking for a relatively fast zoom lens to start
 on a Pentax ZX-5n.  Budget is a consideration, around
 $150 new or used.  I was looking at used lenses and
 saw two that looked interesting: the Vivitar series 1
 28-105 f2.8-3.8 and Sigma 35-85 f2.8-4.
 
 Can someone tell me a little more about these lenses? 
 Are they autofocus, or at least auto-aperature?  I've
 read that the Vivitar is a varifocal design.  Is this
 true of the Sigma as well?  Is varifocal a pain or an
 improvement in image quality?
 
 Somewhere I read that the Vivitar has a minimum focus
 distance of almost 5 feet.  That's a little too far
 out there.  Does anyone know or can guess as to the
 minimun focus of the Sigma?  I can't find any specs on
 it.
 
 As far as new lenses go, I was looking at the Sigma
 28-105 f2.8-4 and maybe the Tokina 28-70 f3.5-4.5 or
 28-105 in the same focal length.  The Tokina isn't
 very fast, but I've been wondering about it, too. 
 Some think very highly of Tokina lenses and I'd like
 to know how they stack up against the others.
 
 I know someone will recommend the Pentax 28-70 f4;
 however, I think it will be a bit too slow.  I would
 like to shoot in existing light in concert halls and
 do some night photography around town.
 
 Thanks for the help,
 Deb
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Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA

2002-01-28 Thread aimcompute

We knew what ya meant. :-)

Tom C.

- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Price for Fixing Sticky Mirror or CLA


 Roger that, Bob.

 Frankly, I'd never heard of the ME Super having a sticky mirror problem
and instantly
 assumed LX despite the clear text to the contrary. Hey! How many senior
moments per year
 do I get? I hope the hell it's 12 'cause I didn't even manage to get out
of January before
 screwing up!

 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 Let us contemplate our forefathers, and posterity,
 and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us
 from the former, for the sake of the latter.
 The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls
 for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude,
 and perseverance. Let us remember that 'if we
 suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
 we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.'
 It is a very serious consideration that millions yet
 unborn may be the miserable sharers of the event.
 - Samuel Adams, 1771

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  Bob,
  I agree about the $150 for a CLA on an LX.
  The $40 answer was for an ME Super.
  Question was inclosed, see below...
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Can someone tell me a ballpark price
 for fixing a sticky mirror problem
 and/or a CLA on an ME Super? 
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