Re: Flare on a 43mm f1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Hi Sherwin, as was said, stop worrying. Every lens flares, EVERY ONE,
"ghostless" coating or not, if there is enough difference between the
non-image light and image light. Try shooting into a 500W spotlight in
black room, and you will have flare. Certain sun (after rain, when air
is clear of dust, low on horizont, the sun is stronger than a 500W
spot IMO) is a always-flare. And interestingly, veiling flare is
sometimes more produced by sun not in frame but hitting the elements
at an angle. The more to center of frame, the less flare and vice
versa.

About worn coating - I have coated lenses from early decades of lens
coating, and they are not worn in any way even after decades of heavy
use. Only the very early pre-war prototype coating was much prone to
wear, or early postwar. So I think it was just a bad flare situation.

OTOH, you would have to be REALLY unlucky to have a LTD lens with
coating error - I assume they must pass pretty rigorous tests, as they
are, after all, labeled Limited, in small volume that permits good
testing.

Frantisek

(BTW, all lenses flare. Even late SMC Pentax F50/1.4 flares. Least
flarey is a simple triplet design //well, even less is achromat, than
singlet //)
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Re: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, February 11, 2002, 9:01:09 PM, Mick wrote:
MM> Alan Chan wrote:
>>I found out by using the split image screen from the MZ-M

MM> Which in itself has the potential for upsetting an AF mechanism, (according
MM> to Pentax).

That's strange...

Pentax repair techs told me so much nonsense already... AF works tru
the mirror, not tru screen. Therefore, AF cannot be affected by
foc.screen. BTW, where did Pentax say/write this?

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Flare on a 43mm f1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

The Pentax SMC filters are just about the best you can buy.  Also, try
to find a better lens hood than the standard model, which is really not
that dep.  I often use the Takumar 50mm hood on the 43 mm with great
success.

Peter Smekal wrote:

> What filters do you recommend then (if one still 
> wants to use one)? Pentax' own with SMC or other brands?

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Re: More on Pentax 645 55-110 and 33-55

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Let's see - how would that work.  In 1890 Paul Rudolph designs the
Planar, but he's ahead of his time with a six element lens, and, in 1902
modifies the lens which begets the four element Tessar 6.3, which, over
the years is modified and made faster.

Soon we come to the autofocus age, and seemingly the Tessar design goes
through some modifications to make it compatible with autofocus, and at
times the lens becomes slower, sometimes as slow as 4.5 (which ain't
that far from 6.3).  Then Nikon, in a brilliant marketing ploy, states
that the lens has been modified for manual focus, and makes it a bit
faster than the slower, modified-for-autofocus versions.  The technical
term for this is a circular progression, based on the moebius strip
model of marketing.

William Robb wrote:

> And in the truth is stranger than fiction category, the Nikkor
> 45mm clone of the Pentax LTD series is, according to their news
> release, "A Tessar design that has been optimized for manual
> focus".
> I love marketing, especially bad marketing.

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Re: Zenitar K-Mount Fish-Eye

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Juan loaned me his, although I've not tried it yet.  Maybe I can burn a
few frames tomorrow, finish up a roll, and let you know what I think.

Ted Sed:

> Anyone have any experience with the 2.8/16mm 
> Zenitar Fish-Eye (K-Mount) lens.   It is absurdly 
> cheaper than any other fish-eye I have encountered

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Press Passes

2002-02-11 Thread Scott Astin

I live in the Salt Lake City area and am going to
school in Logan (about an hour or so from SLC).  As a
student with a passion in Photography, (and although
this idea might be too late) I would appreciate any
information on how to get a press pass so that I might
be able to take pictures at the olympics, or for that
matter, any future major sporting events or concerts
etc...  Any help would be greatly appreciated

Scott
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Actually, some of the old Leica lenses were pretty mediocre, and while
one may debate their optical quality, for a while it was acknowledged
that a lot of Japanese glass was better coated and less subject to
hazing, air bubbles, and other flaws and weaknesses that even the
purchaser of the cheapest consumer lens today would not accept. 
However, in the late fifties - early sixties their quality started to
improve.

Paul Jones wrote:

> Also the lenses Bresson were using, whilst being Leica, probaly were not
> even near the standard of most lenses today.
> 
> Paul

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Re: Flare on a 43mm F1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Alan Chan

>If you're going to put any filter on a good lens, it should be a 
>top-quality filter.  Pentax SMC filters are really good and not that 
>expensive.  I've got them on most of my lenses.  Much better than B&W and 
>less expensive than N***n.

Nikon multicoated filters aren't that flare resistance anyway.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re[2]: 67 Saga

2002-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton

JCO,

I would only sell off stuff that is relatively unused or duplicated.
One of the reasons that I chose the 67 over the 645 was because I
believed that there would be cases where the 35mm was the right
choice.  I appreciate your experience and willingness to share it for
our benefit.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, February 11, 2002, 8:29:38 PM, you wrote:

>>  I think that I am
>> getting to my enablement limit without selling any 35 stuff. :(
>> 
>> 
JCOC> Dont sell your 35mm stuff. There are many situations
JCOC> where 35mm is a better tool than P67 for a given
JCOC> job. Keep BOTH!!!
JCOC> JCO
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Re: Excellent fun to be had by all

2002-02-11 Thread Pat White

Excellent is right!  That sounds like a lot of fun, and you don't have to wait a long 
time to see if you won.  Also, you get to meet the other shooters.  I like it!

Pat White
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Re: Flare on a 43mm f1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Peter Smekal

David Mann wrote

> A cheap filter is likely to be uncoated - thus increasing
>your chances of the very flare you're trying to avoid.  Plus, it may also
>degrade sharpness.   You've paid good money for one of the best lenses you
>can buy, don't throw it all away with a cheap & nasty filter :)

What filters do you recommend then (if one still wants to use one)? Pentax'
own with SMC or other brands?



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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread John Glover

Thanks Tom, I couldn't remember the specs off hand..


- Original Message - 
From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: MV batteries


> Which probably means an S76, 357, etc.
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: John Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: MV batteries
> 
> 
> > Same as the ME I'd guess, as the MV is basically a striped down version of
> the ME.  At one time I owned an MG, which I believe is the model in between
> the MV and ME and it was a pretty decent little camera.
> >
> > John
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:44 PM
> > Subject: MV batteries
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> > > which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> > > before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> > > body is a bonus.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > frank
> > >
> > > --
> > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
> > > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
> > > Oppenheimer
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Re: Grandfather Mountain Photo Weekend?

2002-02-11 Thread jeepgirl

I don't get to come back this year.  I have to have a church wedding and we
chose june 1st for it.  Baby, says I can come next year though if he can
come too.
jeepgirl.
although I would recomend it.  That weekend ranks in my top 10 for my
life
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From: "jmadams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain Photo Weekend?


> As you might guess I'm envious as I am primarily a wildlife photographer.
> I often use an f8 500mm mirror lens and occasionally a 2x converter.
>
> One day I hope I might get one of the 'big gun' 1000/1200mm lenses for my
> Pentax SP, ME/MES or Nikon Photomic FTn.
>
> I was out along the Richmond Dyke the other day(without camera) and
watched
> a drama on the middle arm of the Fraser River. Less than twenty feet from
> me, a Red-Breasted Merganser in full plumage, had just emerged from the
> water with a fish almost as big as itself. It could not swallow it, as
> several times it had to dive to get away from a gull hell-bent on getting
> the fish. On the last dive, the gull pounced and took the fish.
Unperturbed
> the Merganser set about hunting for another fish.  It does not happen
often
> that I leave my cameras behind, but this was one of them. We have Bald
> Eagles, Red-tailed Hawks, Marsh Harriers and more, Swans, Great Blue
Herons,
> every kind of duck including the three types of Merganser and Loons.  We
are
> on the migration route, we see winter visitors such as Sandhill Cranes,
Snow
> Geese, Long-eared Owls, Snowy Owls and the smaller owls, Junkos and Vireos
> down from the interior. The list is endless.
> James
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "jmadams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain Photo Weekend?
>
>
> > I would love to get out to your part of the country and someday hope to.
> > The GFMNPW is an annual event (this will be my third) and is a great
> chance
> > to do some shooting, get reacquainted with old friends, make new ones,
> and,
> > most of all, learn from some of the best pro nature photographers.  Last
> > year the PDML contingent consisted of Doug Brewer, Tom VanVeen, Mark
> > Roberts, John DeLoach and myself, along with our regional Pentax sales
rep
> > who is director of the event.  Hopefully we'll have a few more this
year,
> > but I couldn't make it out to your part of the country either, so I
> > understand why you can't make it.
> >
> > Bill  KG4LOV, WPRS983
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Flare on a 43mm f1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread David A. Mann

Sherwin Abesamis wrote:

> Thank you for the explanation of my picture.  I will be sure to avoid
> photographing in that situation again now that I have been informed.

 I wouldn't necessarily avoid such situations, just be mindful of what you
might get.  I often just hide the sun behind something, if possible.
Sometimes when shooting with the 15mm I try to "hide" the flare patterns
by adjusting my position so that the flare sits over something bright in
the scene.  Its still there but ends up a lot harder to see in the
print/slide.

> I am relieved to know that the fault lay with my mind and not with my
> lens.  I am also glad to know that I did not damage the lens by
> subjecting it to what I believed to be harsh conditions (although I
> did buy a cheap UV filter today to protect it just in case).

 Quite seriously my recommendation is to never use that filter on your
expensive lens.  A cheap filter is likely to be uncoated - thus increasing
your chances of the very flare you're trying to avoid.  Plus, it may also
degrade sharpness.   You've paid good money for one of the best lenses you
can buy, don't throw it all away with a cheap & nasty filter :)  In my
opinion the hood and the lens cap offer as much protection as you need.

 There is no need to worry about the durability of the Pentax SMC coating.
It is tougher than the glass itself.  There have been stories told here of
Pentax lenses being used as ashtrays with no ill effects, after a good
clean.

>  You all
> have been really helpful in my photographic journey (except for the
> enabling part, I don't know how many lenses I bought by simply lurking
> and reading recommendations - my wallet is still hurting from that,
> but my eyes don't mind when they see the quality of the images).

 I know how you feel.  I'm seriously lusting after a 75mm f/2.8 for the
6x7.  Gotta sell the Mamiya RB67 gear first...

Cheers,

- Dave...

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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread Peter Alling

I was taking that into account.

At 11:18 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Yeah, but you are buying two 357s compared to the one CR-1/3N I buy.
>
>On Monday 11 February 2002 10:55 pm, Peter Alling wrote:
> > It must depend where you are, and where you shop.  I can usually find
> > the 357 cells for less than any other comparable type.
> >
> > At 10:40 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I have been using a single CR-1/3N 3 volt lithium battery to replace
> > >two of the other batteries you mentioned and I get a lot better
> > > service out of it.  It is also usually cheaper than the two it
> > > replaces.  I use them in the ME Supers and ME that I have.
> > >
> > >On Monday 11 February 2002 10:00 pm, you wrote:
> > > > Which probably means an S76, 357, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Graywolf
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Re: Baseball pix...

2002-02-11 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Awesome! Your home plate score pic (first row, first column) is definitely
my favorite: that moment is frozen perfectly.

t

On 2/11/02 8:09 PM, Nick Wright wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I covered my first baseball game of the season last
> Saturday. I posted a couple of pix at
> http://www.geocities.com/wrightfoto/ ; critiques are
> welcome. Thanks!
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photo.net portfolios?

2002-02-11 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Hello all...

I've been thinking about using photo.net's public portfolio features. Just a
quick question: How many of you use photo.net's portfolio features, and why
or why not?

Thanks,

Tim
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RE: 67 Saga

2002-02-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell

>  I think that I am
> getting to my enablement limit without selling any 35 stuff. :(
> 
> 
Dont sell your 35mm stuff. There are many situations
where 35mm is a better tool than P67 for a given
job. Keep BOTH!!!
JCO
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread Ken Archer

I have been using a single CR-1/3N 3 volt lithium battery to replace 
two of the other batteries you mentioned and I get a lot better service 
out of it.  It is also usually cheaper than the two it replaces.  I use 
them in the ME Supers and ME that I have.

On Monday 11 February 2002 10:00 pm, you wrote:
> Which probably means an S76, 357, etc.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread Bgpentax

In a message dated 2/11/2002 9:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> body is a bonus.
> 
> Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> 

   Hi Frank...The MV is a surprisingly tough little guy..I've got one that I 
lend-out
  quite a bit when someone wants to borrow a 35mm...It uses the typical set of
  2 Silver Oxide buttons...Everyready #357 , or any SR44 are fine.
Regards,
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Re: Flare on a 43mm f1.9 limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Sherwin Abesamis

Bob,

Thank you for the explanation of my picture.  I will be sure to avoid 
photographing in that situation again now that I have been informed.  I am 
relieved to know that the fault lay with my mind and not with my lens.  I 
am also glad to know that I did not damage the lens by subjecting it to 
what I believed to be harsh conditions (although I did buy a cheap UV 
filter today to protect it just in case).  You all have been really helpful 
in my photographic journey (except for the enabling part, I don't know how 
many lenses I bought by simply lurking and reading recommendations - my 
wallet is still hurting from that, but my eyes don't mind when they see the 
quality of the images). Thanks again.



Sherwin Abesamis
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread Gary Murphy

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:44:10 -0500, frank theriault wrote:

>Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
>which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
>before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
>body is a bonus.

The L44 will work as well as the 357






Later,
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Re: More on Pentax 645 55-110 and 33-55

2002-02-11 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff"
Subject: Re: More on Pentax 645 55-110 and 33-55


> Heeding the old axiom "F 8 and be there" Pentax has just come
out with a
> new Limited lens for their 35mm line of SLR cameras.  It's a
50mm/f8.0.
> Since lenses are getting slower all the time, Pentax has
decided to jump
> the competition and offer the slowest standard lens for 35mm
format.
>
> Nikon and Canon are left in the dust by this brilliant
marketing coup,
> although it's rumored that Minolta has an extremely small AF
55mm/f10.0
> in the works.
>
> On the drawing board:  high tech, autofocus, pinhole cameras.

And in the truth is stranger than fiction category, the Nikkor
45mm clone of the Pentax LTD series is, according to their news
release, "A Tessar design that has been optimized for manual
focus".
I love marketing, especially bad marketing.

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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread T Rittenhouse

Which probably means an S76, 357, etc.

Ciao,
Graywolf



- Original Message -
From: John Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: MV batteries


> Same as the ME I'd guess, as the MV is basically a striped down version of
the ME.  At one time I owned an MG, which I believe is the model in between
the MV and ME and it was a pretty decent little camera.
>
> John
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:44 PM
> Subject: MV batteries
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> > which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> > before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> > body is a bonus.
> >
> > Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> >
> > thanks,
> > frank
> >
> > --
> > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
> > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
> > Oppenheimer
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Baseball pix...

2002-02-11 Thread Nick Wright

Hey all,

I covered my first baseball game of the season last
Saturday. I posted a couple of pix at
http://www.geocities.com/wrightfoto/ ; critiques are
welcome. Thanks!

Nick
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Re: Need Advice: Tripod

2002-02-11 Thread Kenneth Waller

A combination I'm currently using and like alot for still and macro is a
Bogen 3221 tripod, modified to go flat with the bogen 3275 mini-gear head.
For precise framing the mini gear head is hard to beat, its a bummer when
your subject is moving though. I use this combo with a PZ1P and 200mm macro
alot.
Ken Waller
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: Need Advice: Tripod


> Would appreciate advice for a tripod and ballhead that are lightweight
> and compact. This is primarily for flower photography, so it needs to be
> able to get close to the ground. Sometimes I'll travel with it.
> Primarily I'll use my PZ-1p and FA 100mm. f2.8 macro on it - a rather
> heavy combination.
>
> I've been attracted by the Benbo Trecker, but have seen reports that its
> ballhead can slip under heavy weight. Anyone tried it?
>
> Cost is a consideration.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
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anyone used JTL tripods/monopods ?

2002-02-11 Thread Nitin Garg

I am considering getting a monopod and came across this company called
JTL which apparently makes clones of bogen equipment. Has same quality?
but lower price.

anyone used them ?

thanks,
nitin
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Re: Need buying advice: 67II or 645

2002-02-11 Thread Grigolia

Sid,
 Just a thought, but you may have answered your own question.  If 75% of 
your work is landscapes and architecture it sounds like the Pentax 67 II is 
what you're looking for!  Since NO camera system is perfect.  Go for the 
system that fits your major needs.
 But I've also seen fashion photographers shooting with the Pentax 67 
system.  So while the 67 II may not be best for "casual portraits" you might 
find it can meet 85-90% of your needs.  And that's really a VERY efficient 
system!
 The only thing I'd recommend is that you find a 67 user and try lugging 
the 67 II with three or four lenses around for a few hours.  If you don't 
mind the weight, go for it!
 Alexander Grigolia
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Re: Need buying advice: 67II or 645

2002-02-11 Thread tom

On 11 Feb 2002 at 20:59, Sid Barras wrote:

> Hi  all,
> I've just about gotten to the point that I'd like to trade in my Kowa
> system on a Pentax medium format system.
> 
> To the pre-existing pentax medium format owners: 6x7 or 6x4.5?

Oh boy.

Did you miss the whole medFo thread that Bruce started a week or 2 ago? I would check 
the archives, or maybe see if Bruce saved a few of the better posts.

> 
> So, what should I pay for, say a second hand body and 2 lenses (50mm 
>  equivalent and a wide angle as well) I'd also very much like a
>  metered 
> prism, though it wouldn't have to be linked to the exposure system of
> the camera.

In a nutshell,

- Are you sure you want a Pentax?
- Do you need the extra real estate on the 6x7 neg?
- Do you want AF?
- Do you want motor drive?
- Have you tried them both out?

I have a 645n and love it. I'd probably love a 67 as well, but I doubt if I'd drag it 
around as much as I do the 645.

Get the one you like.

tv
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Re: MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread John Glover

Same as the ME I'd guess, as the MV is basically a striped down version of the ME.  At 
one time I owned an MG, which I believe is the model in between the MV and ME and it 
was a pretty decent little camera.

John

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: MV batteries


> Hi,
> 
> Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
> which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
> before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
> body is a bonus.
> 
> Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?
> 
> thanks,
> frank
> 
> --
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
> pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
> Oppenheimer
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Need buying advice: 67II or 645

2002-02-11 Thread Sid Barras

Hi  all,
I've just about gotten to the point that I'd like to trade in my Kowa 
system on a Pentax medium format system.

To the pre-existing pentax medium format owners: 6x7 or 6x4.5?

My shooting habits:
75%  landscapes and architectual, vast majority of that in black and 
white, and lately, infrared.
25% portraiture, mostly prom pics, casual portraits,  fine art people 
pics.  Most of this is black  and white too, and the biggest majority of 
anything I shoot is processed and printed by me as well.

These Kowas  were a good way into the format, and I'd recommend the same 
route to anyone coming up to the big negatives. But now I sometimes feel 
constricted and both of these bodies need CLA attention, and I hate to 
spend any more money on them.

So, what should I pay for, say a second hand body and 2 lenses (50mm 
 equivalent and a wide angle as well) I'd also very much like a metered 
prism, though it wouldn't have to be linked to the exposure system of 
the camera.

Thanks for any input.
Sid
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MV batteries

2002-02-11 Thread frank theriault

Hi,

Just got an MV today that I bought on eBay.  It has no batteries in it -
which is why it was so cheap ($20 with an m 2.0 50mm).  As I said
before, I really got it for the lens, to put on my "new" MX.  The MV
body is a bonus.

Anyone out there know which batteries go into it?

thanks,
frank

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Zenitar K-Mount Fish-Eye

2002-02-11 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Ted,

The consensus among owners like me is that you the Zenitar fisheye delivers 
tremendous value for the dollar. Since few of us take enough fisheye shots 
to justify getting the Pentax, the Zenitar is our ticket to the fisheye 
world. Not only is it a K mount; it meters at full aperture, just like a 
Pentax K mount and unlike screwmount lenses that have simply been 
retrofitted with a K mount flange.

It won't win awards for sharpness, but it's plenty sharp for my needs. 
Contrast is modest, not snappy. When shooting interiors at f/11 I use 800 
film to minimize reciprocity effects. I've been very happy with my results. 
I use the Zenitar for weddings, parties, cubicle shots, and whole-room 
shots. It's so small, packing it becomes a no-brainer. My only caveat is 
that the lens cap falls off easily and is easy to lose.

Someone on another discussion list recently convinced me that, just as an 
impressionist painting can convey a sense of place and mood more 
effectively than a more realistic painting, a fisheye can convey breadth 
more effectively than a 15/3.5 rectilinear lens. Placed beside the fisheye 
shots, shots taken with my well-corrected Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20/2.8K 
look downright prosaic.

Recently I've seen a couple Ricoh 16/2.8K fisheyes for sale at around $400. 
I don't know anything about the Ricoh, but for that kind of money you're 
probably better of jumping at the first used Pentax that comes your way 
below $550.


Paul Franklin Stregevsky
13 Selby Court
Poolesville, Maryland 20837-2410
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Re: how collectible is the h1a ?

2002-02-11 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:31:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Number produced: 135,346?
> 

This number includes the figures for the s1a as well...

Brendan MacRae
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Re: Battery tray for LX Winder

2002-02-11 Thread Peter Alling

I got good at it keeping my HP22 calculator going when
the batteries became unavailable.  (You could recycle
the plastic cases about 3 times).

At 06:18 PM 2/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>One man's fun may be another's pain.
>...from one who is glue challenged, whenever wood is
>not involved.
>
>--- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What's the fun in that?
> >
> > At 02:59 PM 2/11/2002 -0800, Bob Poe wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >Pentax/Colorado will sell you a battery tray for
> > >$10...at least they did about a year ago.
> > >Give them a call :1-800-877-0155.
> > >Cheers,
> > >Bob
> > >--- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Depending on how badly it's cracked you may be
> > able
> > > > to repair it.
> > > > Try using good old superglue.  It should melt
> > the
> > > > plastic and
> > > > fuse it together.
>
>=
>What boots up must come down.
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Re: how collectible is the h1a ?

2002-02-11 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:10:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1332192816

I would consider that a a pretty good deal. llooks to be in good condition 
but the photo is not the best.

Now that I have my own copy of van Oosten's Ultimate Screw Mount Guide I can 
check the rarity of my fav asahi's instantly.

>From van Oosten:
H1a: produced 1962-1968
Number produced: 135,346?
H1a serial Number range: 711163-721162, 151-1541576
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Re: Vivitar 3700

2002-02-11 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Jeff,
 The 3700 is a very nice unit. I have a couple I use with my Spotmatics.
It`s a very powerful little unit, and has many nice features. I have the
Standard modules which are non-TTL, but can be used off camera
via sync cord. There are many accessories for the 3700 also.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Subject: Vivitar 3700


> Any Vivitar 3700 Pentax/TTL users?
> I would appreciate any comments.
> 
> Jeff
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Re: Battery tray for LX Winder

2002-02-11 Thread Bob Poe

One man's fun may be another's pain.
...from one who is glue challenged, whenever wood is
not involved.

--- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's the fun in that?
> 
> At 02:59 PM 2/11/2002 -0800, Bob Poe wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Pentax/Colorado will sell you a battery tray for
> >$10...at least they did about a year ago.
> >Give them a call :1-800-877-0155.
> >Cheers,
> >Bob
> >--- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Depending on how badly it's cracked you may be
> able
> > > to repair it.
> > > Try using good old superglue.  It should melt
> the
> > > plastic and
> > > fuse it together.   

=
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how collectible is the h1a ?

2002-02-11 Thread Nitin Garg

H1a, leather case, 1:2 55mm super-tak + front cap, smct 1:3.5 35mm with
leather case. For 85 BIN + 10 for s,h this might be a good deal.

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Re: Battery tray for LX Winder

2002-02-11 Thread Steve Larson

Many thanks Jose, Peter, and Bob. I will try to repair it, and keep it
as a spare, if I can get one from Colorado.
Thanks again guys,
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
Bob Poe wrote:
> Hi,
> Pentax/Colorado will sell you a battery tray for
> $10...at least they did about a year ago.
> Give them a call :1-800-877-0155.
> Cheers,
> Bob
Peter Alling wrote:
> > Depending on how badly it's cracked you may be able
> > to repair it.
> > Try using good old superglue.  It should melt the
> > plastic and
> > fuse it together.   I got the best results by
> > binding the parts
> > together using some kind of tape after applying glue
> > until it's
> > fully set.

Jose R. Rodriguez wrote:
You may want to contact the Pentax Parts Department (1-800-877-0155)
and see if they sell it.  I have bought several parts from them for my
LX and Dial Data LX.  They are very helpful and they now take
MasterCard/Visa.
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Need Advice: Tripod

2002-02-11 Thread Joseph Tainter

Would appreciate advice for a tripod and ballhead that are lightweight
and compact. This is primarily for flower photography, so it needs to be
able to get close to the ground. Sometimes I'll travel with it.
Primarily I'll use my PZ-1p and FA 100mm. f2.8 macro on it - a rather
heavy combination.

I've been attracted by the Benbo Trecker, but have seen reports that its
ballhead can slip under heavy weight. Anyone tried it?

Cost is a consideration.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: help: color negative film with the same color rendition as velvia

2002-02-11 Thread Joseph Tainter

> i wonder if there are any color negative films that yields the same kind of color
> rendition as velvia. of course you can't get exactly the same...but a film with the
> same pushy colors for print is what i'm looking for. thanx alot!
> 
A year ago the answer would have been Agfa Ultra 50. That's now
discontinued. There've been rumors that it will be replaced by an ISO
100, but no one has yet seen this (at least on this side of the
Atlantic).

Barring that, I have seen Konica's ISO 200 color negative film
recommended as having very nearly the saturation of Agfa Ultra. I have
not tried it myself, but the numbers I saw looked impressive.

Joe
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Was: Misfocussing with 43mm limited? Now New Topic

2002-02-11 Thread Joseph Tainter

* From: wendy beard
>* Subject: Re: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?
>* Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 05:19:16 -0800
> 

> 
> I took my MZ-S / 43mm combo out shooting on Saturday.
> What I found was that it was particularly difficult for me to get the focus
> on the part of the scene that I wanted, something I hadn't noticed when
> using my other lens, the 28-105/3.2-4.5.

So the new 28-105/3.2-4.5 is available in Canada? Apparently it's not
yet in the U.S. Wendy, I'd love to hear of your appraisal of the lens.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Timothy Sherburne

I asked:

> I'm not sure I understand how DOF "changes" based on your final print size.
> Could you elaborate?

And Shelwrote:

> ... the bigger the print the more important critical focusing is, and
> greater DOF is needed to maintain an area of acceptable sharpness.

Yes, stating the problem that way makes perfect sense to me. The DOF does
not change, but areas that are out-of-focus become even more noticeable as
the the print size increases.

Thanks!

t
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Re: agfa scala 200

2002-02-11 Thread LEDMRVM

In a message dated 2/11/2002 5:09:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> hi,
> 
> Anyone know where i can get this film developed in eastern US and what
> are typical costs ? I got a 5 pack of this today and am wondering if i
> should use it or pass it along.
> 
> thanks,
> nitin
> -
> 

Try CLM - Color Lab Miami
305-576-3207
111 NE 21st St.
Miami  FL  33137

If I remember correctly, the mailers I have cost about $6.
BTW, I liked Scala much better when I exposed it at 320 rather than 200.

Regards,
Ed M.
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67 Saga

2002-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton

Just picked up my first roll of Provia 100F shot with the 67II.  Aside
from my learning experience in loading the film (went past the start
mark thinking there was another mark), losing the first couple of
frames, I can say that the metering on the AE finder appears to be
pretty accurate and boy is that image big!  I love to just look at
them.  Based on a 4x loupe, the camera seems reasonable to handhold.
I've got another roll of Portra begin developed and proofed that I'll
pick up tomorrow that has more testing on it.

I continued my enabling and order a 55/4 and 165/28 lens from KEH
today.  I debated/mulled over the leaf lens or not on this purchase,
but decided to wait and see how things work out.  I think that I am
getting to my enablement limit without selling any 35 stuff. :(

Just have to play around with the flash stuff a little more to see how
well things work (TTL-contrast control, etc).


 Bruce
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Re: Zenitar K-Mount Fish-Eye

2002-02-11 Thread Len Paris

Ted,

There are several people here that have this lens.  I have one
that I am very satisfied with.  Images made using it are very
good and flare is fairly well controlled.  It's a great buy at
the price.  The main reason I bought it was because I didn't
think I'd use a fish-eye enough to justify spending the money
for a premium fish-eye.  I use it fairly often but still not
enough to invest the larger amount of money to buy a Pentax,
Tamron, or Sigma equivalent.

Len
---


> Hello All,
>
> Anyone have any experience with the 2.8/16mm Zenitar Fish-Eye
(K-Mount)
> lens.   It is absurdly cheaper than any other fish-eye I have
encountered
> (Ive seen it for as little as $145US online.)  Since I am a
lowly underpaid
> IT-Helpdesk guy, $145 is alot of cash for me.
>
> How is the picture quality of this lens?  How is the light
flare?  Do any of
> you use a fish-eye regularly, or does the gimmick of a
fish-eye get old
> after time.  Any opinions or experiences would be greatly
appreciated.
>
> Ted
> San Diego, CA
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RE: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Alan Chan

> >I found out by using the split image screen from the MZ-M
>
>Which in itself has the potential for upsetting an AF mechanism, (according
>to Pentax).

But then the AF sensor is below the mirror and I fail to see why?

regards,
Alan Chan

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RE: PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-11 Thread Doug Franklin

Hi Malcolm,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:28:14 -, Malcolm Smith wrote:

> Noted.

> > > Guest list:
> > >
> > > 1. Cotty
> > > 2. NORM
> > > 3. DOUG-F (tentative)
> > > 4.
> > > 5.
> > > etc

You can add me as a tentative.  It will depend on so many things I
can't list them here. :-)


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re[6]: 67 Questions

2002-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton

Aaron,

Good info.  I'll have to run down to the camera store and see how
things look.  I have an Lowepro Omni-something or other - looks more
like a briefcase than a traditional bag, but it is too low to fit the
67 with Prism in it.  I think they have a pretty extensive Lowepro
line there so I'll check out the Mini Trekker.  Just want to make sure
that I can carry it on.


Bruce Dayton



Monday, February 11, 2002, 2:16:18 PM, you wrote:

AR> On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 12:13  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>> Are there any suggestions for a carrying bag that this fits into
>> comfortably?  I would want to be able to carry it onto a plane.

AR> I've got a LowePro Mini Trekker backpack, which is the smallest of the 
AR> LowePro packs that will fit the 67 with the prism on it, if you go by 
AR> the dimensions.  I can easily fit my 67, my two lenses (the 75 and 105), 
AR> my meter, six 5-roll pro packs of 120 film, three 67mm filters in 
AR> enormous cases, the power supply to my iBook, and my iBook (in the 
AR> outside pocket) into it.  If film were put in the outside pocket instead 
AR> of the inside, the Mini Trekker could hold three short lenses down the 
AR> middle with the body and two long ones up the sides.  Of course, it 
AR> would become pretty heavy if you did that.

AR> -Aaron
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread T Rittenhouse

I am afraid I tend to disagree with you.

Rules of thumb do not replace expertise. You have to at least have the
knowledge to understand the rule of thumb. For instance, the 1/FL you quote
is only for 35mm. With a Rollei the rule would be 1/2-1/FL, and with 4x5
1/4-1/FL.

Another misunderstanding is your DOF rule. For normal viewing distances the
DOF of an 8x10 and a 20x24 print should be pretty close to the same. The
difference? An 8x10 is normally viewed a 10 inches or so, and a 20x24 is
normally viewed from 3 or 4 feet.

Any rule of thumb is just a starting point. It gives you an idea where to
start experimenting. Some people can hold a 50mm lens on a 35mm camera
steady enough at 1/8 sec to produce sharp prints, some need to use 1/250.
Until you experiment with it yourself you have no idea what your limits are.

For a hundred fifty years we managed to make superb photographs without the
gee-whiz technology that is now available. Good enough is a long way from
perfect. But, if you equipment is not perfect you can always blame your
inability to make exciting pictures on it. If you do though you will never
make those exciting pictures because you will always blame your equipment
and not bother to develop the skills to make those pictures.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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From: Frantisek Vlcek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact


> Hi Shel,
>this exhibition (Exodus) was here in Prague in the autumn last
>year, I was to it several times... truly excellent!
>
>What can I say... until seeing his prints, I though that I am
>getting pretty good results from 35mm format, and that I have good
>technique. After seeing the exhibition, well, it was a little
>disheartening to see such perfect prints from small format,
>especially compared to mine.
>
>His great photographs (I like his vision) are complemented a lot by
>the perfect technique. OTOH, I have seen many perfect photographs
>with bad technique, that still had the same or nearly same impact,
>but it really helps if the technique is perfect too.
>
>As you said, most things like DOF, 1/FL rule for camera shake, etc.
>are almost unusable when doing big prints. DOF scales are
>calibrated for 8x10" prints, even on Zeiss lenses... when you print
>50x60cm, DOF scales are completely useless. Same for 1/FL rule,
>that was made up in the old days for even smaller prints than
>8x10"/18x24cm (of course, there are cameras exception to this,
>which can be handholded much steadier, like Rolleiflexes and few
>other TLRs, some rangefinders,...).
>Lot of people have expensive lenses and use a bad enlarger which
>for example has not perfect alignment or is too much sensitive to
>enlarger shake (I have seen few expensive dursts and similar which
>had big shake problems after even minute adjustment of a knob or
>dial, while my many times cheaper Magnifax IV is very steady).
>
>BTW, his printer (or does he print himself?) is pretty good. A lot
>of good was made to the prints in the darkroom.
>
>I suggest everyone with interest in reportage or documentary (and
>just about every other) photography go see this exhibition if you
>have a chance. You will see something about the world we live in,
>and also, you will see what's possible to get from small format.
>
>Good light,
> Frantisek
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RE: PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-11 Thread Robert Gillespie

I'l have a 7 please Malcolm !

Cheers   Rob


> oops better make me 6!
> 
> > > > >
> > > > >> Guest list:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Cotty
> > > > >> 2. NORM
> > > > >> 3. Adelheid (depends a bit on the date)
> > > > >> 4. tv (depends a LOT on the date)
> > > > >> 5. Frits (also depends a LOT on the date, and where I 
> > live at that
> > time)
> > > > >> 6. Rob Brigham
> > > > >> etc
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SV: Zenitar K-Mount Fish-Eye

2002-02-11 Thread Emmanuel Ingelsten

i have some experience although not all that extensive since i just bought this lens. 
i love wideangle and this lens was the cheapest way to get super-wide lens. i havn't 
had problems with flare...but i've just used it indoors in even lightning.

e-man

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Ämne: Zenitar K-Mount Fish-Eye


> Hello All,
> 
> Anyone have any experience with the 2.8/16mm Zenitar Fish-Eye (K-Mount)
> lens.   It is absurdly cheaper than any other fish-eye I have encountered
> (Ive seen it for as little as $145US online.)  Since I am a lowly underpaid
> IT-Helpdesk guy, $145 is alot of cash for me.
> 
> How is the picture quality of this lens?  How is the light flare?  Do any of
> you use a fish-eye regularly, or does the gimmick of a fish-eye get old
> after time.  Any opinions or experiences would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Ted
> San Diego, CA
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Re: PDML weekend (uk) 2002/2003

2002-02-11 Thread Jostein

Think the number was up to 7...
 7. Jostein Øksne (Just get the date settled, and I'll make room in
the calendar.)


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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Paul Jones

At the end of January i went to see a Bresson Exhibition, it was all
portraits. The images on display were quite large, alot of them were around
20x24 or maybe larger . The prints were awesome, i was really surprised what
could be done with a little 35mm neg.

Also the lenses Bresson were using, whilst being Leica, probaly were not
even near the standard of most lenses today.

Paul

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From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact


> What changes is the area of acceptable sharpness.  DOF is based on a
> factor called the "circle of confusion", and as long as that circle is
> small enough, the eye sees the image as acceptably sharp.  The
> "acceptable" size of this circle for 35mm work is 0.025mm, but this
> number only works for prints up to a certain size.  As you may imagine,
> as the print is made larger, the circle of confusion also grows in size,
> and what looks sharp in a 5x7 or even an 8x10 print, can look very much
> out of focus when the print is enlarged to 20x24, or larger.  the COF is
> generally calculated for prints no larger than about an 8x enlargement.
>
> What you have to realize is that there is only one plane of exact focus
> - so, for example, if you focus on someone's eyeball, that is the only
> part of the image that's perfectly in focus.  Stopping down the lens
> gives greater DOF, based on the COF.  So, as you can see, if I've
> explained this well, the bigger the print the more important critical
> focusing is, and greater DOF is needed to maintain an area of acceptable
> sharpness.
>
> Timothy Sherburne wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure I understand how DOF "changes" based on your final print
size.
> > Could you elaborate?
>
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Paul Jones

Hi,

Here is some info that was recently posted on another list i am on by Daniel
Bowdoin, i have just cut and pasted it:

In a series of articles the year before last in the French magazine,
Reponses Photom some details about this or that aspect of Salgado's work
were provided. His choice of camera at that time was the R6.2. He carries
three 6.2s,
with 28, 35, and 60mm macro lenses, and a 70-180/2.8 zoom. He comments
that he uses the zoom only  rarely and that he takes resorting to it is
an admission of failure.  The three prime lenses are kept mounted and
ready, so that rather than mount/dismount lenes he can just switch
cameras. He carries one M6 body with 50 summilux, 35 summicron, and 28
elmarit with viewfinder. He uses Tr-X and T-Max 3200. While in his interview
he states that he
uses "une grosse majorite de Kodak Tri-X et une petite minorite de T-Max
3200," the article about his printer suggests that the ratio is more like
2/3 Tri-X to 1/3 T-Max. The Tri-X is mostly shot straight, at 400, but
with occasional exceptions ranging from 200 to 800. The T-Max, which he
obviously saves for extreme lighting situations, ranges from 1600 to 12000.
All his film goes to a lab for developing, and there is no mention about
what developer he prefers with either film, or even if he cares. He uses
either of two Paris labs, Picto and Imaginoir. Much more detail is provided
about the printing side. He has two
enlargers--a Durst Laborator 1200 with an Ilford Multigrade head, and a
Laborator 138 with a color head. Enlarging lens of choice is an EL-Nikkor
63/2.8. If your interested in this much detail, he uses an Ahel 4-blade
easel and a Bauerle timer for the Durst 138 (the Ilford head on the 1200
has a self-contained timer). Papers are all Kodak--Polymax Fine Art
brilliant (F surface), Polymax II RC luster (E surface). Double weight,
roughly comparable to the old Kodak Elite premium weight. His paper is
custom cut in Rochester to 24x34 inches. Developed in Dektol. Polymax
fixer. He uses a Deville vertical washer and an Ademco mounting press.
Spotting done with Spotone! There's a photograph of Dominque Granier, his
printer, working over a print with an airbrush filled with potassium
ferricyanide. This little clue, taken together with the three "typical"
prints that are discussed in the article about his darkroom ("Salgado,
cote labo: les secrets de son tireur), suggests that many of Salgado's
prints involve a considerable amount of finessing.


Regards,
Paul Jones
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact


> Yep ... you can theorize all you want about what's possible with 35mm
> and TX/T-MAX, and that it can't give you sharpness and information past
> a certain degree, and then you see those prints and you begin to wonder
> .
>
> I'm going to see Salgado this evening, and if I can, I'll ask if he hand
> picks or modifies his gear in any way, and about his printer.  What I
> really want to know is how he deals with the emotional aspects of seeing
> all that horror day after day, and being away from his family as much as
> he must.
>
> Frantisek Vlcek wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shel,
> >this exhibition (Exodus) was here in Prague in the autumn last
> >year, I was to it several times... truly excellent!
> >
> >What can I say... until seeing his prints, I though that I am
> >getting pretty good results from 35mm format, and that I have good
> >technique. After seeing the exhibition, well, it was a little
> >disheartening to see such perfect prints from small format,
> >especially compared to mine.
> >
> >His great photographs (I like his vision) are complemented a lot by
> >the perfect technique. OTOH, I have seen many perfect photographs
> >with bad technique, that still had the same or nearly same impact,
> >but it really helps if the technique is perfect too.
> >
> >As you said, most things like DOF, 1/FL rule for camera shake, etc.
> >are almost unusable when doing big prints. DOF scales are
> >calibrated for 8x10" prints, even on Zeiss lenses... when you print
> >50x60cm, DOF scales are completely useless. Same for 1/FL rule,
> >that was made up in the old days for even smaller prints than
> >8x10"/18x24cm (of course, there are cameras exception to this,
> >which can be handholded much steadier, like Rolleiflexes and few
> >other TLRs, some rangefinders,...).
> >Lot of people have expensive lenses and use a bad enlarger which
> >for example has not perfect alignment or is too much sensitive to
> >enlarger shake (I have seen few expensive dursts and similar which
> >had big shake problems after even minute adjustment of a knob or
> >dial, while my many times cheaper Magnifax IV is very steady).
> >
> >BTW, his printer (or does he print himself?) is pretty good. A lot
> >of

Re: Part for Besler Enlarger

2002-02-11 Thread T Rittenhouse

Beselar is still in business, and most of the parts are interchangable. I do
not have the URL, try a google search.

Ciao,
Graywolf



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From: Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Part for Besler Enlarger


> Hi,
>
> I picked up a Beseler Enlarger on the weekend with a El-Nikkor lense. Its
> the nob and assembly that focus's the enlarger. I have taken a picture of
> it, or where it should be. Does any one know a source of Beseler Parts?
The
> enlarger doesn't state a model number.
>
> http://www.nrg666.com/enlarge01.jpg
> http://www.nrg666.com/enlarge02.jpg
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Jones
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Re: Speaking of Cats ... and thinking

2002-02-11 Thread Norman Baugher

Bill, my Siamese will play fetch...that's right, just like a dog :) I
have pictures taken with my PENTAX SUPER PROGRAM* to prove it.
Norm
*on topic

William Robb wrote:

> Not animosity, per se, some of us just have a hard time
> understanding why some people think cats have more intelligence
> than a cranberry.
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Re: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?

2002-02-11 Thread wendy beard

At 06:45 11-2-2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Since returning home to York yesterday I have
>had the opportunity to try my wife's 28-70 f4 from her MZ-5N on the MZ-S
>and the 43 mm lens on her camera.  My immediate impression is that the
>focus with the zoom on the MZ-S was bang on (not to mention very rapid
>and unhesitant) and the 43mm seemed to have the same focussing offset as
>on my camera.  My question then is, has anyone else experienced
>focussing accuracy problems with this, or any other Pentax lens?  I feel
>fairly sure that this is not related to the issue of how accurate
>autofocus cameras are as a breed - but I cannot think of why a
>particular lens would misfocus given that presumably the camera is
>simply sending instructions to turn one way or the other until the
>sensor deems that focus is achieved.  I am going to return the lens but
>it would be useful to hear any thoughts on this.  I would add that I
>wonder whether this might be the source of perceived disatisfaction from
>at least one member of this group (I have been lurking for some time)
>with this lens and perhaps might explain the rather poor rating it
>achieved at Photodo.

I took my MZ-S / 43mm combo out shooting on Saturday.
What I found was that it was particularly difficult for me to get the focus 
on the part of the scene that I wanted, something I hadn't noticed when 
using my other lens, the 28-105/3.2-4.5.
I put it down to the larger aperture allowing me to see the scene better 
and notice that certain parts weren't in focus whereas before luck and 
depth of field had rendered the reults acceptably in focus with the other 
lens. Also unfamiliarity with the handling of the camera played a big part 
of it with me. So much so, that I put the camera into MF in the end to get 
the result I wanted!
Methinks I should spend more time with it and the manual.

Wendy

BTW I had a fantastic day on Saturday. Beautiful blue skies, lots of white 
snow. Discovered a lovely (deserted) covered bridge in a picturesque 
village, a water mill with a part frozen lodge and to cap it all got to see 
lots of ice sculptures early evening in downtown Ottawa. And I got some 
skiing in too!
(photos came out pretty good too!)

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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Good information.
But let's add to it:
What paper did he print on?
What lens was on then enlarger?
What chemicals did he use.

There's so much more to the resultant image than just the film and lens.  That's why 
B&W is as much craft as art -- and those of you who do it frequently know exactly what 
that means.  
It would be like having a Mac amp, and a Linn table, and then attaching Cerwin Vega 
speakers.
(I agree totally with you, but think there's more to be added.)

Collin

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Battery tray for LX Winder

2002-02-11 Thread Steve Larson

Hi All,
 Anyone have an extra they would like to sell, or know anyone
who has one for sale? I was walking, talking, and loading film
on the way to the grandstands at the Winternationals and hit
the battery tray button by mistake, the tray hit the ground and
cracked :(
Thanks,
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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Re: Misfocussing with 43mm limited?

2002-02-11 Thread Martin Cockett

Hi Pål,

Pål Audun Jensen wrote:

> I've not noticed similar behavior with the MZ-S and the 43 Limited, but 
> then I never use AF with the 43mm.
> Is this problem constant? 


Pretty much - occasionally it appears to focus correctly, but only in 
the near field.  It is always quite noticeable off in the far distance.

> That is, is it always off? The MZ-S may plays 
> tricks on you dependent on how it's programmed; if AF fails it may use 
> the AF sensor beside the one you're using to achieve focus. Then it 
> ficuses on something else than you assume. Do a test where you lock a 
> sensor. 


I have tried the camera with only the central, lower sensor activated, 
and selectively with some of the other sensors but get the same 
behaviour consistenly.  I have also switched off the custom function 
which switches to another sensor when focus cannot be achieved.


> The lens do communicate with the camera telling it where it is on the 
> helicoid and the camera use this information to achieve correct focus. 
> If the lens is off somehow, it's possible that AF will not work as 
> intended.


This is what I suspect in this case, but I observed the same thing with 
the second 43mm lens I tried in another shop which prompted my concern 
that this might be a general issue with this lens.


> BTW I'm really not sure any AF system is precise enough to focus 1,9 + 
> lenses accurately. At least manual focusing is more precise.


Well, I have a Contax AX which has this back-focussing mechanism and it 
has no trouble focussing with pin-sharp accuracy with my 50mm f1.4 
Planar.  This camera is equipped with split image and microprism 
focussing screen so it is very easy to see how precisely it can do its 
job.  The AF on the Contax is not by any stretch of the imagination 
state-of-the art and although it achieves focus by a very different 
route I would expect a modern AF camera to be able to do as good a job 
in terms of accuracy and substantially better in terms of sensitivity 
and speed (in these latter two areas the MZ-S certainly excels).

I do not buy into the philosophy that AF SLR cameras cannot focus 
accurately enough.  If this is true then the whole concept of AF is a 
massive con.  Why do Canon market a 50mm f1.0 lens if an EOS is 
incapable of focussing it accurately?  Why does Pentax market 50mm f1.4 
AF lenses if you can only focus them with any precision manually?  Why 
market the Limited series of AF lenses, widely lauded as some of the 
finest 35mm lenses in production, if the cameras on which you mount them 
are incapable of focussing them correctly.  It has occured to me that 
the reason the 28-70 zoom appears to be spot on is the f4 maximum 
aperture disguising the fact that the focus is off.  But I have looked 
very carefully to see whether I can correct the focus by switching to 
manual but so far it always seems to get it right.  And more 
importantly, it will focus to infinity, unlike the 43 which never goes 
much beyond the 8m mark.

I would be very interested to try out my new camera with a selection of 
other fast Pentax AF lenses but unfortunately do not have these at my 
disposal (and neither do any of the camera shops within a 50 mile radius 
of York!!) which is why I had to travel to London to buy the camera in 
the first place.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Best regards
Martin
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Re: Ebay stuff

2002-02-11 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky

Bob S. wrote:
Some of us have been patiently watching this auction for a week.
The price at ~$180 isn't much of a bargain any more though...

Bob,
If you want this lens, be grateful to find it at all. I just sold mine for 
$200 in EX++. With perhaps one exception on German EBay, every specimen 
I've seen has sold from $160 to $240.


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Re: Sunpak 433D, how dedicated?

2002-02-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek

Monday, February 11, 2002, 3:26:11 AM, Jeff wrote:
J> The title of his description of the item is:
J> "SUNPAK AUTO 433D TTL FLASH for PENTAX"

J> I already own a 433D (Canon mount), which works fine with my Super Program
J> in  Auto Thyristor mode. As a matter of fact, I'm presently using it (with a
J> shoe adaptor) with my newly acquired Dimage 7.
J> I don't need a second flash, if TTL is not one of the features.

J> Jeff

Hi Jeff,
   my Sunpak brochure says about...

   'B3600D/ auto 433D (usa)
   ...
   Dedicated to Canon, Nikon TTL, Minolta TTL, Olympus TTL and Pentax
   cameras"


   So I guess it doesn't have TTL dedication for both Canon
   and Pentax, and has TTL for the others, as TTL would be mentioned
   for both pentax and canon otherwise. In same brochure, another
   flash, auto 266D, is described as Canon, Nikon TTL, Minolta TTL,
   Ricoh TTL, Olympus TTL, Pentax TTL cameras, so imho that means the
   433D is not Pentax TTL, just plain program/ready dedication. Also,
   shouldn't TTL Pentax have three pins in total on the shoe (one X,
   one ready, one TTL quench?) - I may be wrong, check KMP on this.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: LX screens (SC21, SE69) (and others)

2002-02-11 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Frantisek wrote:


>My question is, how much better is the new LX2000 screen (SE69,
>Sx60,...)? The SC21 is already pretty good that I can focus with
>ease anywhere on the screen.


It's much much better and a must have in my opinion.

Pål
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Re: LX finders: FA1 vs. FA2 (size)

2002-02-11 Thread Camdir

Frantisek.

We have a bag of various Leica plates if you think that'll do the trick...<< 
As a heresy, I am trying to locate a Zenit or
similar lowend slr nameplate and glue it with double-sided tape there,
to lessen chance of stealing /attracting more attention ;-)))>>

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: LX finders: FA1 vs. FA2 (size)

2002-02-11 Thread Camdir

Malcolm.

I am SO envious. That FA2 makes the camera a stealth tool. Only wish I had 
stocked up on the finders before they stopped last year.

Ref Red Bus Rover, I believe aged 14 on a Scout day out

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: MF rangefinders

2002-02-11 Thread Camdir

<< And have you considered a M pres 23? It doesn't have that fast
glass in wideangles, though, fastest is normal lens, 3.5 I think.
And it offers no interlocks, but is dirty cheap. >>

A lovely technical camera, however just a little bit too heavy for most 
folks, I feel. I had a 50mm for it. Absolute heaven, but can be tricky 
repairs wise.

KInd regards

Peter
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?

2002-02-11 Thread Camdir

My thoughts on MF r/finders: Me personally, I love the Mamiya 6. However that 
is no more although they do come up ocassionally.
 Mamiya 7 is the current reigning monarch - it has the best range of lenses, 
too.
The Bronica 645 is excellent, especially as it is now at a more realistic 
price (previously it was priced £200 less than the 7). However the lens 
system is rather underdeveloped, in my view.
 I guess it's down to you to choose the format you most prefer. And be aware 
of the limitations on projectors.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Shel wroe:


>I advocate no particular cameras, lenses, or equipment - just that
>whatever you use must be of the highest quality and properly adjusted in
>order to obtain superior quality when making large-sized prints.

Sure, but hand-held photography with 3200 ISO film has nothing to do with 
the "highest quality". I have no problems with this. I don't think you need 
the highest quality for certain types of photography. I'm sure his darkroom 
work is flawless but theres no way that you can achieve high resolution 
large prints with 3200 ISO film. The film doesn't have that resolution. 
That's why people use MF because you can't magnify 35mm frames much; not to 
mention 3200 ISO.
The  fact is that this kind of photography don't need high resolution or 
fine grain. Again I'm sure that the prints where flawless within their 
limitations but this has nothing to do with camera and lens used to capture 
the images.



>Come back to this commentary when you've seen the exhibit and the
>quality of the prints, and have compared them to other photographs of a
>similar nature and size made with a consumer zoom.


With 3200 ISO film you won't see any meaningful difference between a 
consumer zoom and any other quality lens. It's meaningless to say that you 
have to see the exhibition to know; unless there were parallel exhibition 
where the same image were shot with a consumer zoom and another lens there 
are no way of knowing except using common sense, laws of physics and 
experience.
Again, I've never achieved ever the biting sharpness my best lenses can 
reach without using a tripod. You can get sharp images hand held but you 
won't get that last few percentage of sharpness that separate the merely 
good from the sublime without using fine grained film and a tripod.

Pål
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RE: Anyone have a MZ-6?

2002-02-11 Thread Edward Kreis

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Simon King
> Subject: Anyone have a MZ-6?

> point about the layout of it. I don't suppose anyone has both 
> the 5n AND the 6 who could give a comparison :-) Cheers Simon
> 

Hi Simon, 
although I haven't both the MZ-5n and the MZ-6, but since last Friday I
have the MZ-6 and the MZ-M - that has  interface quite similar to the
one of MZ-5n.  My first impressions on them, after using MZ-M for more
than 3 years and MZ-6 just for 2 days:
1. Setting of aperture - is the same on both bodies by using the
aperture ring on the lens. Mz-6 has the other way - using the select
switch, the one around the release button (lens aperture on "A"
position).
2. Setting of shutter speed - MZ-M (5N) through the speed dial. MZ-6
only by using select switch. And this way IMO is more convenient - with
MZ-M I always was a little bit frustrated  - can't set shutter speed
without seeing the dial. With MZ-6 it's very comfortably to change the
speed while looking through the viewfinder. And changing both the speed
and aperture is also convenient - simply pressing select switch changes
speed, when additionally Exposure compensation button is pressed down -
changes aperture. Compensation button is located at the left side of the
lens mount - very comfortable to press while holding lens - even easier
than to turn aperture ring.
3. Other controls - manual/auto focus, exposure lock button, DOF
preview, flash popup button are situated at the same places as in 5N. 

MZ-6 has also many more features, as you can see from specifications.
User functions, advanced flash support, and the spot metering is here
too, although coupled with the exposure lock - you can't meter the
different parts of the scene by simply pointing to them - exposure lock
button need to be pressed every time to get reading and second time to
release it.

After reading the entire thread on (imprecision of AF system, I've found
the opposite to be true, at least with my kit (MZ-6 and FA28/3.2
-105/4.5). If AF locks, then it is precise, at least, manually I can't
achieve more sharp looking image in viewfinder (films aren't developed
yet). Even get AF confirmation while manual focusing was hard enough -
just a little movement of focusing ring looses it. May be with manual
lens it will be different, though, as AF focusing ring has very short
movement range.

That's all for now. Just one more, MZ-6 in hands feels much better then
MZ-M - heavier and it has bigger hand grip. I have always taught, that
MZ-M's one is ideal for small/medium hands, but 6's grip is much nicer
for me.
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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?(God forbid)

2002-02-11 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Shel wrote:


>Maybe ... maybe not  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/rf645.htm


What a horrible camera...Talk about annoying viewfinder! The day Pentax 
makes abominations like this, I'll switch brand.

Pål
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Did you see the exhibit?  Did you see the quality of Salgado's photos? 
Have you compared them to the quality of other photos?

If you believe that equipment makes no difference, that's fine.  But I
assure you it does in the circumstances described.  For small prints,
you probably couldn't tell the difference.  At 20 x 24 it makes a big
difference. 

I advocate no particular cameras, lenses, or equipment - just that
whatever you use must be of the highest quality and properly adjusted in
order to obtain superior quality when making large-sized prints.  And,
as I also said, that has to be combined with talent and skill.

Come back to this commentary when you've seen the exhibit and the
quality of the prints, and have compared them to other photographs of a
similar nature and size made with a consumer zoom.

Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
 
> If Cartier Bresson started started out today he would most likely used a
> Nikon or a Canon EOS with a bloody zoom lens.  I doubt his images would
> have been worse for it. I find of those who insist on using the same
> equipment as a famous photographer their admire whether its a Leica or a
> Canon EOS-1, and then try to intellectualize their "choice" into having
> anything to do with the images and their context quite funny.
> Using 3200 ISO film makes all differences between quality lenses totally
> meaningless; in fact, it could be argued that using quality lenses is
> meaningless.
> If you want to spend extra money on the best optics it's then a futile
> exercise to leave the tripod at home. You'll never ever get the resolution
> out of your lenses if you're not using the finest grained films and a
> tripod unless you have invented a way to suspend the laws of physics.
> "Street photography" doesn't really put any demand whatsoever on technical
> image quality. That's why you can get away with murder in terms of
> technique and still get front page of Life Magazine.
> No, equipment doesn't make an impact photographically. Only on those
> consumerist who needs alibies for spending money on their status symbols.
> You find plenty of them on the various equipment photo newsgroups. They are
> people who use Leica because Cartier Bression did or Canon because Arthur
> Morris or Art Wolfe does; all of them argues that the name of the equipment
> makes the difference. The equipment makes a difference in as much as the
> photographer feels comfortable with it; that's about the extent of it.

-- 
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Re: Salgado: Equipment & Technique Makes an Impact

2002-02-11 Thread Pål Audun Jensen

Shel wrote:


>Now, one of the conversations often heard on the Pentax list is that 
>equipment doesn't matter. Good photographs can be made with almost any 
>decent camera and lens. I've subscribed to that idea myself to a degree, 
>although those who know my preferences know that I constantly seek 
>sharpness and resolution from my lenses. While good "images" can be made 
>with most any lens, a great photograph requires the finest equipment 
>possible to wring the most detail from the subject and put it on the film, 
>excellent exposures, precise developing, and superb darkroom equipment and 
>technique. There is no way that the quality obtained by Salgado in these 
>prints could have been the result of even average, or above average, 
>equipment.


If Cartier Bresson started started out today he would most likely used a 
Nikon or a Canon EOS with a bloody zoom lens.  I doubt his images would 
have been worse for it. I find of those who insist on using the same 
equipment as a famous photographer their admire whether its a Leica or a 
Canon EOS-1, and then try to intellectualize their "choice" into having 
anything to do with the images and their context quite funny.
Using 3200 ISO film makes all differences between quality lenses totally 
meaningless; in fact, it could be argued that using quality lenses is 
meaningless.
If you want to spend extra money on the best optics it's then a futile 
exercise to leave the tripod at home. You'll never ever get the resolution 
out of your lenses if you're not using the finest grained films and a 
tripod unless you have invented a way to suspend the laws of physics.
"Street photography" doesn't really put any demand whatsoever on technical 
image quality. That's why you can get away with murder in terms of 
technique and still get front page of Life Magazine.
No, equipment doesn't make an impact photographically. Only on those 
consumerist who needs alibies for spending money on their status symbols. 
You find plenty of them on the various equipment photo newsgroups. They are 
people who use Leica because Cartier Bression did or Canon because Arthur 
Morris or Art Wolfe does; all of them argues that the name of the equipment 
makes the difference. The equipment makes a difference in as much as the 
photographer feels comfortable with it; that's about the extent of it.

Pål
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Re: True professional

2002-02-11 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen

It depends on where you are located. (Just legal information,
not an opinion !)

Antti-Pekka

At 16:38 10.2.2002 -0500, you wrote:
>This could lead to problems with the law!
>Ken Waller

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Re: The LX Let Me Down, A Mamiya Love Affair in the Offing?(God forbid)

2002-02-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Maybe ... maybe not 

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/rf645.htm

Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
 
> It's because it's the film that's oriented 
> vertical in the film chamber. The frame is 
> horizontal of course since nobody in their 
> right mind would buy a camera with a vertical 
> frame.

-- 
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