FA 28-105/4-5.6 PZ build quality?
Hi! I plan to buy old, good SMC FA 28-105 Powerzoom. Unfortunately I have used FA 28-80/3.5-4.7 PZ, which build quality was... erghhh not so good (loose zoom ring etc). What about build quality of this 28-105? Is it better? Can users of it confirm that it is ok after years of use? Thanks! -- Best Regards Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
kodachrome 64 and the epson2450
how does these look? http://66.162.74.160/~jcoconn/k64bird2.jpg http://66.162.74.160/~jcoconn/k64bird2-2400.jpg http://66.162.74.160/~jcoconn/k64bird1.jpg http://66.162.74.160/~jcoconn/k64bird1-2400.jpg these are from a 35mm slide on epson 2450. #1 was done with silverfast #2 was done with epson twain. The #1 ones came up pretty dark and needed more tweeking than the #2 ones. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Treena Harp wrote: > Don't you all think it's time to nip this thread in the bud?? Don't you mean snip? Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
It's nice to see that people of many faiths and religious viewpoints can agree on one thingwe all like Pentax equipment. Jim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG
James, you are confusing Li-Ion rechargeable (do not exist in AA 1.5 voltage) with disposable 1.5 Volt AA Lithium ( made by Eveready). The Lithium AA's suppose to last up to 4 times longer than Alkalines in electronic devices, but they cost 4 times as much. Many Digicam users keep a spare set of Lithiums in their bags, for when they have no chance to recharge their Ni-MH's. Alkaline batteries are useless for powering Digicams. Jeff - Original Message - From: "James Rupprecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:46 PM Subject: Re: Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG > Lithium AA cells or do you mean NiMH AA cells. Do Lithium AAs even exist? > AA cells are a standard 1.5v. Any lithium cell will have a different > voltage (IIRC it is 3.6v). > > > > At 07:34 PM 05/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Greetings from a lurker- > > > >What would be the pros/cons of using lithium AA's (vs. > >alkaline AA's)in the battery pack for the ZX-5n? Tried > >searching the archived messages but didn't seem to > >find the answer I'm looking for. For example, how much > >more usage does lithium give over alkaline? Enough to > >justify the added cost? > > > >TIA. > > > >= > >*~*Pat*~* > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >(remove NUT upon reply) > >LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > >http://launch.yahoo.com > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG
Wow. I am eating my last comment as I type this. There are 1.5v Lithium AA cells. I'd be interested in hearing how well they do or don't work, too. Are they rechargeable? -jim >Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 22:46:42 -0500 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: James Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG > >Lithium AA cells or do you mean NiMH AA cells. Do Lithium AAs even exist? >AA cells are a standard 1.5v. Any lithium cell will have a different >voltage (IIRC it is 3.6v). > > > >At 07:34 PM 05/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: >>Greetings from a lurker- >> >>What would be the pros/cons of using lithium AA's (vs. >>alkaline AA's)in the battery pack for the ZX-5n? Tried >>searching the archived messages but didn't seem to >>find the answer I'm looking for. For example, how much >>more usage does lithium give over alkaline? Enough to >>justify the added cost? >> >>TIA. >> >>= >>*~*Pat*~* >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>(remove NUT upon reply) >>LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >>http://launch.yahoo.com >>- >>This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >>go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >>visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG
Lithium AA cells or do you mean NiMH AA cells. Do Lithium AAs even exist? AA cells are a standard 1.5v. Any lithium cell will have a different voltage (IIRC it is 3.6v). At 07:34 PM 05/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings from a lurker- > >What would be the pros/cons of using lithium AA's (vs. >alkaline AA's)in the battery pack for the ZX-5n? Tried >searching the archived messages but didn't seem to >find the answer I'm looking for. For example, how much >more usage does lithium give over alkaline? Enough to >justify the added cost? > >TIA. > >= >*~*Pat*~* >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(remove NUT upon reply) >LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience >http://launch.yahoo.com >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dimage Dual Scan II
I found the problem. The door has a little key that closes a switch in the scanner. If this' switch is not close the scanner doesn't start. Unfortunately the cheap plastic key in the door of my scanner came broken. will return it and ask for another one. If I insert a little piece of plastic in that place the scanner works perfectly. Thanks everybody Alex - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Dimage Dual Scan II > Alex, > > I have been using a Scan Dual II for over a year and am running it > under Windows XP. The blinking light thing is normal. I have been > using Vuescan for all this time and don't think I've ever tried > running Minolta's software under XP. > > Because VueScan is a free trial download (www.hamrick.com) you might > want to at least try it to see if it works. With the door shut, turn > it on and then start up Vuescan. Vuescan will initialize the scanner > and then be ready for use. After initialization you can open the door > and load your film. > > OK, I just tried running the Minolta software scanning utility and > twain driver from Picture Window. Both ran fine. > > Are you sure that the USB driver was loaded properly? You might try > unplugging it from the computer and plugging it back in to see if the > driver loads up. If you are satisfied that everything is installed > correctly and Vuescan also fails, then I would say you have a > defective unit. > > If I can be of any other help, don't hesitate to ask. > > > Bruce Dayton > > > > Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 2:51:23 PM, you wrote: > > spwe> Hello all, > > spwe> I just bought from B&H a Dimage scan dual II from minolta. I am having a few > spwe> problems. Maybe someone can help me: > > spwe> 1. When I turn it on the light blinks for aproximately 10 minutes. Is it > spwe> normal? > > spwe> 2. When I try to run the software it always complains that the door is open > spwe> and I can't run it. > > spwe> I checked all instalation steps in the manual and also downloaded the latest > spwe> version of the > spwe> software from minolta. I have a windows XP machine. I am doing something > spwe> wrong or is the > spwe> scanner broken? > > spwe> Thanks for any help, > > spwe> Alex > spwe> - > spwe> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > spwe> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > spwe> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
May PUG favorites
An excellent month. I think I like the open galleries the best! My top choices in order of preference: 1. "Statue in Berlin " - Joseph Tainter My favorite this month. Beautifully executed study of a most interesting piece of art. I think your image really adds drama to the subject. 2. "Tree On Fire" - Jostein Oksne Abstract and very compelling. I could look at this one for hours. 3. "Leaning Tree" - Kathleen Leickly Impressionistic in quality and great texture. 4. "Walking Shadow" - Gianfranco Irlanda Imaginative, captivating and wonderful use of color. 5. "Walkway" - Martin Mielke This shot reminds me of some wonderful work in a book by Terence Conran. A very pleasing and relaxing photograph. Composition and colors are wonderful. 6. "Afternoon" - Facit Simple, striking, beautiful. It reminds me a little of the images on the "Zen and photography" site. 7. " " - Gary Fenstermacher Nice textures, to my eye very good composition. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Lithium AAs & Battery pack FG
Greetings from a lurker- What would be the pros/cons of using lithium AA's (vs. alkaline AA's)in the battery pack for the ZX-5n? Tried searching the archived messages but didn't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. For example, how much more usage does lithium give over alkaline? Enough to justify the added cost? TIA. = *~*Pat*~* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove NUT upon reply) LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Aircraft Photography
Steve, Thanks for the compliment. New Zealand had a surprisingly large collection of high quality old warbirds, but there's something pretty special about seeing 2 Flying Fortress or 2 B1 bombers flying in tandem, and that's a sight you're only likely to see in the States. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of foreign stuff flying around, which is why I've been interested for some time in attending one of the English air shows. You should consider yourself very fortunate to have seen the B24, they're very rare - the only people I know flying one in the States is the Commemorative Air Force (was the Confederate Air Force): http://www.cafb29b24.org/ As you can see, they also have another extremely rare bird, a B29 Superfortress. I haven't seen either of these guys flying, but I'm contemplating going up to Green Bay, Wisconsin and/or down to Peoria, Illinois to see them, because they really are pretty special. Surprisingly they seem to be flying at three airshows in Wisconsin this year, I thought they'd spread themselves out more, but perhaps they want to keep their mileage as low as possible, and keep their costs down. You're lucky to be living in California, it's one of the hotbeds in the American airshow world, along with Texas and Florida. Just East of you in Chino you can see other rarities, like the P38 and authentic Japanese Zero, which are based there. Richard. home phone: (1)(847) 733 7313 home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- Richard, Damn nice shot of the B17 Flying Fortress (all are)! I saw two WWII bombers flying over last Friday, but didn`t know what they were, so I called a couple of airports in the area, and the guy said one was a B-17, and the other a B-24. It was a marvelous sight to behold, and quite a nice roar of the engines. Wish I had time to photograph them, but I was in traffic and had only a 50mm on the Spottie. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Richard Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Old Aircraft Photography >Cotty, > > Dave Mann can't be allowed to have all the fun, so perhaps this >flightless kiwi will also jump the pond to dear old Mother England and >indulge his airshow lust at the same time. > > I was sorry to see that the Duxford airshow site doesn't seem to have >even a tentative list of what aircraft will be flying - what are they >thinking? > > The Royal International Air Tattoo the weekend after Duxford seems to >have a good selection flying, including spitfire, lancaster, hurricane, >tornado, jaguar and nimrod: > >http://www.airtattoo.com/airtattoo_2002/participation/aircraftframe.html > > Do any of you guys go to that show? > > Oh, and if people are interested in Me109s, check out this guy flying >down in lil' ol' New Zealand: > > http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/WanakaWarbirds/Bf109/index.h tml > > There's also plenty of airshow wallpaper to keep people happy, including >P51s and B17s, all photographed with Pentax gear, naturally: > >http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/index.html > >Richard. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new additions to the camera bag
The grey card is a good tool. But every time you use the grey card, take a reading with your avering meter, center weighted meter or what have you and see how it differs. Then ask yourself why it differs. Is it because there are numerous bright areas or heavy shadows? Eventually, you'll learn to judge the reading of other meters in respect to ambient light. Then you can begin to fine tune your exposures when you need more highlight detail or more shadow detail. Grey card exposures, like incident meter readings, will work for 95% of the shots you'll want to take. But if you can learn what effect different kinds of lighting have on exposure, you can get great exposures 100% of the time. And you'll know when an in camera meter can be trusted. Paul "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > > Yep > works for moi as well. The way I look at it is this way: maybe my technique is >wrong; maybe my theory is incorrect; maybe my 3 meters are not sync'd (spot, ttl, >incident/reflective) but when I use the grey card and any one of those meters I get >great exposures so... as long as the exposures are bang on I can continue to >research new techniques/theories while still getting decent images. > > Cheers, > Dave > > Original Message: > - > From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:09:28 -0400 (EDT) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: new additions to the camera bag > > I know I'll get some flak but after runing a roll of > B&W ( dark 2 stops under exposed ) and then deciding > to try a grey card test I realise the grey card and > minolta meter have to go where ever the camera goes. > Yes I have seen it with my own eyes that all light > meters see grey, by metering reflected off th grey > card the exposures were almost dead on. So never again > will I trust any meter, I'll trust the grey card. > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Old Aircraft Photography
Richard, Damn nice shot of the B17 Flying Fortress (all are)! I saw two WWII bombers flying over last Friday, but didn`t know what they were, so I called a couple of airports in the area, and the guy said one was a B-17, and the other a B-24. It was a marvelous sight to behold, and quite a nice roar of the engines. Wish I had time to photograph them, but I was in traffic and had only a 50mm on the Spottie. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Richard Seaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Old Aircraft Photography > Cotty, > > Dave Mann can't be allowed to have all the fun, so perhaps this > flightless kiwi will also jump the pond to dear old Mother England and > indulge his airshow lust at the same time. > > I was sorry to see that the Duxford airshow site doesn't seem to have > even a tentative list of what aircraft will be flying - what are they > thinking? > > The Royal International Air Tattoo the weekend after Duxford seems to > have a good selection flying, including spitfire, lancaster, hurricane, > tornado, jaguar and nimrod: > > http://www.airtattoo.com/airtattoo_2002/participation/aircraftframe.html > > Do any of you guys go to that show? > > Oh, and if people are interested in Me109s, check out this guy flying > down in lil' ol' New Zealand: > > http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/WanakaWarbirds/Bf109/index.h tml > > There's also plenty of airshow wallpaper to keep people happy, including > P51s and B17s, all photographed with Pentax gear, naturally: > > http://www.richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/index.html > > Richard. > > home page: www.richard-seaman.com > > --- original message --- > > Fredo! > > >I have to confess that I do have a fondness for some of the older > >military aircraft (especially the B-17 and the P-51, my favorite > >bomber and fighter, respectively). I also would like to sometime > >see a P-38 (I assume that there must be a few still surviving) and I > >also would love to see an Me-109 someday. > > snip > > >I do hope > >to eventually see some of the other remaining B-17's that are still > >around, and my ultimate "dream trip" (with photo gear, of course) > >would be a journey to the locations of some of the old B-17 > >airfields in the UK (East Anglia area). > > Come on over fella! Duxford is just such an East Anglian aerodrome. I > don't know if a Flying Fortress will be present but I can sure as heck > find out. P-51s, definately. Me-109, I'll have to check. Apparently the > climax of the three hour show is ALL the flying display planes trouping > past in formation - we're talking a couple a dozen at least - all going > ten to the dozen. They say it's pretty unbelievable. > > http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml/ > > carrot ---> stick, > > Cotty > > > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Does it leave small pieces on the cutting room floor? On Wednesday 15 May 2002 05:16 pm, Jeff wrote: > I have a very sharp lens > > Jeff > > - Original Message - > From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:30 PM > Subject: RE: OT: Rabbi's and Photography > > > Jeff wrote: > > > I've done a few Bris's with my Video camera [Snip] > > > > YOW!!! I'll bet THAT must have hurt! > > (Sorry, couldn't resist!) > > > > Time to go > > > > Bill Peifer > > Rochester, NY > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget > > to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
I have a very sharp lens Jeff - Original Message - From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: RE: OT: Rabbi's and Photography > Jeff wrote: > > I've done a few Bris's with my Video camera [Snip] > > YOW!!! I'll bet THAT must have hurt! > (Sorry, couldn't resist!) > > Time to go > > Bill Peifer > Rochester, NY > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new additions to the camera bag
open up 1/2 stop maybe. --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 09:33 AM, Shel > Belinkoff wrote: > > > Metering the palm of > > your hand and open up one stop will give a good > exposure. > > Well, maybe if Brendan was caucasian... ;) > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
When my wife and I got married there was a strict rule about flash photography and location. The photographer had a designated spots around the altar where he can stand and do his photography. It satisfied everyone. The ceremony was still solemn enough and wasn't interrupted by the clicking and whirring of motor drives or shutters. Just my $0.02 Francis Irvine, CA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: RE: new additions to the camera bag
Whoops.. Let me clarify: The reflective meter I can use with the grey card (same with the spot) - The 'reflective/incident' meter I refer to is the Sekonic L-308B which does both incident and reflective. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 13:24:54 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: new additions to the camera bag How do you use an incident meter with a grey card? Do you point the meter at the grey card? If so, it won't sork correctly without some compensation. If you point the incident meter back towards the camera from the subject position, you don't need a grey card. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Unless it's performed in an Ultra-Ortodox Synagogue, I've never heard of any restrictions on photography or videography. The only restriction in, some Synagogues, apply to the Sabbath. I've done a few Bris's with my Video camera, for friends & relatives. Jeff > From the LUG (Leica Users Group) I had recently read a thread regarding a user who, with clearance from the Rabbi and Moyle, took photos at a Bris - perhaps it's dependent on the clergy ? > > I'm sure each of these religious occaisions: Bar/Bat Mitvahs, Bris, Communion/Confirmation, Weddings (yes, these can be based in a religious text) all should be documented. > > Every one I've been to (I'm Catholic so it's limited to a variety of weddings including those of the Jewish faith, Islamic faith and First Communions/Confirmation), with camera in hand of course, I've respected the wishes of the clergy in charge. Photographing the event post-delivery/application of the sacrement usually is the best one can hope for and in the end, isn't all that bad because the children/individuals are still in their sabbath garb. > > Just my 2 cents FWIW > Dave > > > Original Message: > - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:17:53 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: Rabbi's and Photography > > > Steve & Paul, > > A couple of years ago in her first High Holidays sermon, the new Assistant Rabbi delivered a sermon AGAINST photography.. something like 'You need to live in the moment and just have your own memories.' We have not spoken since, and when we do I think I should unload on her. How ignorant! > > My old friend the Rabbi from 2 congregations ago, is an avid photographer who enjoyed taking pictures of his family. The current Rabbi doesn't allow picture taking during the service, although I think that I remember a camcorder or two at past Bar/Bat Mitzvah services. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - I can see clearly now...
Hi Dave, Nice tale re the personal touch with the Mamiya. Nice one Peter, too, for being so hospitable - - what was his cut? Just kidding :-) The best times to hang around those shows are surely when they're setting up (that's when the dealers stalk), and the first half hour on opening (that's when the stalkers deal...) - and then again right at the bitter end - your situation being a prime example. Although I imagine the dealers don't mind carting it all back again because it's their livelihood, bless 'em. I think they're more likely to accept a slightly less bulging wad of cash at close than at lunch. I'm guessing. Sounds like a great time. Glad you sold your gear. >>I should have dropped it on the Nikon table, whoops those F5s are a little >>fragile aren't they... but that wouldn't have impressed the nice girl >>behind the table (the only reason I bothered going past it... quite a few >>times). >> >>- - Dave, who really is behaving himself :) It can't last! ;-) Bealzebub. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Newman and Sieff Books (was: Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait ?)
>Concerning his newly acquired Sieff book, Cotty wrote: >> My luck was in: on her return, she presented me with a brand new >> copy! Called 'Faites Comme si Je n'Etais pas La' (trans: 'Make as >> if I'm not here' - M. Sieff's favourite assurance to sitters) [Snip] > >Great Scott, Cotty! That's not only an excellent title for a book, but a >perfect quotation to use as a signature file for e-mails to upper >management, when one is feeling in a particularly devilish mood! ;-) >(Provided "upper management" only speaks bureaucratese, and not French) LOL. Nice one Bill. Actually my sigs to my own managers go something like this: -- - Kind regards, That tall bloke in the background you've never met but shat on many times... -- LOL, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new additions to the camera bag
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 09:33 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Metering the palm of > your hand and open up one stop will give a good exposure. Well, maybe if Brendan was caucasian... ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tour de London camera shop this Saturday
>I may be meeting up with Bob Walkden who will serve as my guide. Anyone >else who wants to turn up let me know. Details of where to meet will >follow later if there is any interest (hopefully more interest than people >showed for Photographica... I don't bite, guys!). Love to come, really. I'm working :- Cotts ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: what is P-TTL?
- > Only in plain vanilla TTL mode. P-TTL is a recent addition in > Pentax repertoire, meaning the actual flash is preceded by a > shorter, lower intensity pre-flash, intended to allow the camera to > measure reflectivity of different parts of the scene in order to > compute more efficiently the effective flash burst duration. Which assumes that matrix metering is being used or different parts of the scene could not be measued in the brief flash duration. len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new additions to the camera bag
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: new additions to the camera bag Yep works for moi as well. The way I look at it is this way: maybe my technique is wrong; maybe my theory is incorrect; maybe my 3 meters are not sync'd (spot, ttl, incident/reflective) but when I use the grey card and any one of those meters I get great exposures so... as long as the exposures are bang on I can continue to research new techniques/theories while still getting decent images. Cheers, Dave How do you use an incident meter with a grey card? Do you point the meter at the grey card? If so, it won't sork correctly without some compensation. If you point the incident meter back towards the camera from the subject position, you don't need a grey card. Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what is P-TTL?
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Alin Flaider wrote: > Pentax repertoire, meaning the actual flash is preceded by a shorter, > lower intensity pre-flash, intended to allow the camera to measure > reflectivity of different parts of the scene in order to compute more > efficiently the effective flash burst duration. It's capable of > detecting and correctly exposing for off center subjects Yes, it uses the multi-segment metering pattern instead of the usual center weighted pattern of the plain TTL. In addition, P-TTL allows you to use flash exposure compensation function of the AF360FGZ; and it also makes wireless multiple flash TTL metering possible. -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4-- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Steve Larson asked (in Re: Do Zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed): Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! "No camera" was my wife's rule. She and the girls are dead-set against my photographing anything. My live-in mother-in-law welcomes and encourages it. Lina and the girls even don't want to take the five 5-watt two-way radios when they go to Disney World this July. I'm counting on my mother-in-law to talk sense into them. (wife: "You paid $225 apiece for them, used? I thought you paid about $45 each!" Right, for a MIL-SPEC A/B/C-cerfified radio (Vertex VX-10). Anyway, the rabbi loves when I photograph events, as long as it's not on the Sabbath or other holy day when the Sabbath's 39 categories of "creative labor" (a poor translation), including winding a spring and activating an electric circuit, are forbidden. The Bar Mitzvah was held on a Sunday so that the rabbi could welcome one and all without worrying that they would break the Sabbath on his son's account. At the bar mitzvah, I handed out photos of congregants whom I had photographed with my SMC 200/2.5 on the synagogue's inauguration two months back. You should have seen this elederly Iranian beam when I gave him a closeup of him and his grown son praying together. No words were needed. On the back of each print is a label with lens and exposure data and "For a free electronic JPEG copy, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Last night on Gilmore Girls, 30-something Lorelai was mortified to discover that her blue-blood (old-money) mother had shown up at Lorelai's college graduation with a hired moviographer and sound man. The two men followed Lorelai onto the stage when she received her diploma! That's excessive, even by my generous standards of what is permitted. As for the rabbi who discouraged her flock from taking pictures of their lives, I'd like to know how she'd feel if her parents had no such visual memories to pass down. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Must be new toys time again....
Just arrived. Pentax digital spotmeter AF 1.7x teleconverter (think I might convert this to Nikon) and a delightful little 35mm F1.9 Vivitar (not S1) in M42 mount. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: what is P-TTL?
Artur wrote: AL> I read somewhere that the pre-flash is triggered about 1/15 sec AL> before the main flash It appears to be a significant delay between the two bursts. This may seriously hinder sports shooting, where one would have to recourse to plain TTL. Does anyone if other implementations (E-TTL or whatever is Canon's, etc.) are as slow? Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new additions to the camera bag
It is the Kodak grey card pack, the 5x7 is in the camera bag, the 8x10 near the enlarger ( it's my dark room mid grey reference now. ). I am noticing B&W is similar to slides in that it isn't near as forgiving as colour print exposure wise, you need to be accurate!!! at least with in 1 stop. That and halogen light is yellow/redish so when I used the yellow filter the cameras meter could not compensate for the colour balance since B&W isn't so red sensitive. that was 1 stop lost, then add the white back drop and fair skined model thats 1 more stop the camera throws out since it wants to make her grey. There goes 2 stops that if I had done a grey card test I would have known. All the whites came out grey, darks almost turned black and black was super black with no detail ( even tho there could have been ). After the grey card test ( after a 2 stop under exposed roll ) I saw metering the grey almost dead on, metering the white side, it made white turn grey, metering both in martix, same as metering the white side. matrix metering + 1.5 stops was almost the same as the grey card, spot metered the grey card almsot the same reading as refelcted off the grey card with hand meter. ETC ETC. now I know why you ned to learn in B&W first, get a good neg ( mental note, trust Ansel Adams and Aaron ) to get a good print. --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Brendan ... > > You'll get no flak here, just kudos and a tip o' the > hat. > > Funny you should mention this, as I've been playing > around with > exposures a little. It's been a long time since > I've used the camera's > built-in meter, and a couple of days ago I tried > using the ME Super on > automatic, even adjusting a little for contrasty > scenes or scenes that > were not "average". The results were terrible. > Changing lenses changed > the exposure, moving the camera a bit changed the > exposure, and, in > general, shadow detail was compromised by highlights > that affected the > meter reading. > > Now, I understand how meters work, but I wanted to > see the results that > could be had with the camera essentially set on > automatic. They were > terrible. Long ago I started carrying a hand-held > meter and a grey > card, although I've rarely used the grey card, but I > use a spot meter so > it's easy enough to find a middle grey tone in just > about any scene. > Heck, a mid grey isn't even needed. You can measure > off something a > little brighter or darker and adjust the exposure > from there. Once I've > got the readings for a scene, or the area in which > I'm shooting, the > camera setting remains constant. The exposures are > far better > controlled, and the tones are placed where I want > them to be rather than > where they just happen to end up because some > circuit or algorithm > inside the camera thinks it knows better than me how > to expose a scene. > > The other nice thing about what you're doing is that > you'll soon have a > better understanding of light (if you pay attention > and remember the > situations in which you've been shooting), and in > time you'll discover > that a meter isn't always necessary, except, > perhaps, for tricky > lighting situations. > > BTW, a couple of tips that might be useful: newish > or very minimally > faded blue jeans is about equivalent to mid grey. > Metering the palm of > your hand and open up one stop will give a good > exposure. Grass also > gives a good mid-tone reading. > > Also, bear in mind that grey cards vary somewhat. > If you're not already > using one, get yourself a Kodak grey card package. > Very, very useful. > > HTH, > > Brendan wrote: > > > > I know I'll get some flak but after runing a roll > of > > B&W ( dark 2 stops under exposed ) and then > deciding > > to try a grey card test I realise the grey card > and > > minolta meter have to go where ever the camera > goes. > > Yes I have seen it with my own eyes that all light > > meters see grey, by metering reflected off th grey > > card the exposures were almost dead on. So never > again > > will I trust any meter, I'll trust the grey card. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
>From the LUG (Leica Users Group) I had recently read a thread regarding a user who, >with clearance from the Rabbi and Moyle, took photos at a Bris - perhaps it's >dependent on the clergy ? I'm sure each of these religious occaisions: Bar/Bat Mitvahs, Bris, Communion/Confirmation, Weddings (yes, these can be based in a religious text) all should be documented. Every one I've been to (I'm Catholic so it's limited to a variety of weddings including those of the Jewish faith, Islamic faith and First Communions/Confirmation), with camera in hand of course, I've respected the wishes of the clergy in charge. Photographing the event post-delivery/application of the sacrement usually is the best one can hope for and in the end, isn't all that bad because the children/individuals are still in their sabbath garb. Just my 2 cents FWIW Dave Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:17:53 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Rabbi's and Photography Steve & Paul, A couple of years ago in her first High Holidays sermon, the new Assistant Rabbi delivered a sermon AGAINST photography.. something like 'You need to live in the moment and just have your own memories.' We have not spoken since, and when we do I think I should unload on her. How ignorant! My old friend the Rabbi from 2 congregations ago, is an avid photographer who enjoyed taking pictures of his family. The current Rabbi doesn't allow picture taking during the service, although I think that I remember a camcorder or two at past Bar/Bat Mitzvah services. Regards, Bob S. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Dan, I agree about disrupting services, but this new assistant was talking about photography in general. No family snaps for her! I wonder how she feels not that she has a child of her own. One of the most precious legacies we discovered on the death of my Uncle were pictures of my Grandfather as a young man and as a boy of 10. Regards, Bob S. Dan wrote: Many religious groups have restrictions on photography during religious services. I have seen many beautiful occasions ruined by those who believe that getting that perfect photo op is more important than observing the ceremony and allowing others to do so. One should find out the photography policy in acvance. If you don't agree with it, and if it is that important to you, you should find another place of worship where you would be more comfortable. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Steve & Paul, > > A couple of years ago in her first High Holidays sermon, the new Assistant Rabbi >delivered a sermon AGAINST photography... something like 'You need to live in the >moment and just have your own memories.' We have not spoken since, and when we do I >think I should unload on her. How ignorant! > > My old friend the Rabbi from 2 congregations ago, is an avid photographer who >enjoyed taking pictures of his family. The current Rabbi doesn't allow picture >taking during the service, although I think that I remember a camcorder or two at >past Bar/Bat Mitzvah services. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new additions to the camera bag
Yep works for moi as well. The way I look at it is this way: maybe my technique is wrong; maybe my theory is incorrect; maybe my 3 meters are not sync'd (spot, ttl, incident/reflective) but when I use the grey card and any one of those meters I get great exposures so... as long as the exposures are bang on I can continue to research new techniques/theories while still getting decent images. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:09:28 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new additions to the camera bag I know I'll get some flak but after runing a roll of B&W ( dark 2 stops under exposed ) and then deciding to try a grey card test I realise the grey card and minolta meter have to go where ever the camera goes. Yes I have seen it with my own eyes that all light meters see grey, by metering reflected off th grey card the exposures were almost dead on. So never again will I trust any meter, I'll trust the grey card. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: what is P-TTL?
- > Only in plain vanilla TTL mode. P-TTL is a recent addition in > Pentax repertoire, meaning the actual flash is preceded by a > shorter, lower intensity pre-flash, intended to allow the camera to > measure reflectivity of different parts of the scene in order to > compute more efficiently the effective flash burst duration. I read somewhere that the pre-flash is triggered about 1/15 sec before the main flash > It's > capable of detecting and correctly exposing for off center > subjects, something one had to manually compensate for in older TTL > mode. As to date, MZ-S and MZ-L (ZX-6) paired with 360FGZ are the > only P-TTL capable combinations. > > Servus, Alin I wonder if the newest Pentax - MZ-60 is capable of doing the P-TTL and HSS features. I also read that the MZ-60 has MLU (with 2-sec. timer). Anybody knows anything about it? Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Bob and Steve: Many religious groups have restrictions on photography during religious services. I have seen many beautiful occasions ruined by those who believe that getting that perfect photo op is more important than observing the ceremony and allowing others to do so. One should find out the photography policy in acvance. If you don't agree with it, and if it is that important to you, you should find another place of worship where you would be more comfortable. Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Steve & Paul, > > A couple of years ago in her first High Holidays sermon, the new Assistant Rabbi >delivered a sermon AGAINST photography... something like 'You need to live in the >moment and just have your own memories.' We have not spoken since, and when we do I >think I should unload on her. How ignorant! > > My old friend the Rabbi from 2 congregations ago, is an avid photographer who >enjoyed taking pictures of his family. The current Rabbi doesn't allow picture >taking during the service, although I think that I remember a camcorder or two at >past Bar/Bat Mitzvah services. > > Regards, Bob S. > > Steve Larson wrote: > Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? > My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, > (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live > in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > > Paul Str wrote: > > > Last Sunday my family attended the Bar Mitzvah of our > > rabbi's eldest son. I agreed to leave my cameras at > > home, figuring the event would be well-covered by the > > digicam crowd and perhaps a pro. > > > > While I didn't see digicams, there were one or two > > amateurs with camcorders and a pro whose only gear was > > a Nikon FE-2, a Nikon 35-105 zoom, and a flash. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new additions to the camera bag
Hi Brendan ... You'll get no flak here, just kudos and a tip o' the hat. Funny you should mention this, as I've been playing around with exposures a little. It's been a long time since I've used the camera's built-in meter, and a couple of days ago I tried using the ME Super on automatic, even adjusting a little for contrasty scenes or scenes that were not "average". The results were terrible. Changing lenses changed the exposure, moving the camera a bit changed the exposure, and, in general, shadow detail was compromised by highlights that affected the meter reading. Now, I understand how meters work, but I wanted to see the results that could be had with the camera essentially set on automatic. They were terrible. Long ago I started carrying a hand-held meter and a grey card, although I've rarely used the grey card, but I use a spot meter so it's easy enough to find a middle grey tone in just about any scene. Heck, a mid grey isn't even needed. You can measure off something a little brighter or darker and adjust the exposure from there. Once I've got the readings for a scene, or the area in which I'm shooting, the camera setting remains constant. The exposures are far better controlled, and the tones are placed where I want them to be rather than where they just happen to end up because some circuit or algorithm inside the camera thinks it knows better than me how to expose a scene. The other nice thing about what you're doing is that you'll soon have a better understanding of light (if you pay attention and remember the situations in which you've been shooting), and in time you'll discover that a meter isn't always necessary, except, perhaps, for tricky lighting situations. BTW, a couple of tips that might be useful: newish or very minimally faded blue jeans is about equivalent to mid grey. Metering the palm of your hand and open up one stop will give a good exposure. Grass also gives a good mid-tone reading. Also, bear in mind that grey cards vary somewhat. If you're not already using one, get yourself a Kodak grey card package. Very, very useful. HTH, Brendan wrote: > > I know I'll get some flak but after runing a roll of > B&W ( dark 2 stops under exposed ) and then deciding > to try a grey card test I realise the grey card and > minolta meter have to go where ever the camera goes. > Yes I have seen it with my own eyes that all light > meters see grey, by metering reflected off th grey > card the exposures were almost dead on. So never again > will I trust any meter, I'll trust the grey card. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
new additions to the camera bag
I know I'll get some flak but after runing a roll of B&W ( dark 2 stops under exposed ) and then deciding to try a grey card test I realise the grey card and minolta meter have to go where ever the camera goes. Yes I have seen it with my own eyes that all light meters see grey, by metering reflected off th grey card the exposures were almost dead on. So never again will I trust any meter, I'll trust the grey card. __ Find, Connect, Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tamron SP 200-500 F5.6 lens
I¹m not sure how my Tamron SP 200-500 F5.6 lens stacks up against some of the other longer zooms being mentioned, but I¹ve been happy with mine. Manual focus and only available used, it¹s big and heavy a solid tripod is a necessity. I hope to use it plenty this summer as I¹ve had it less than a year, but negs from nature shots taken last fall seemed quite decent with an 8-times lupe. RW - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Rabbi's and Photography
Steve & Paul, A couple of years ago in her first High Holidays sermon, the new Assistant Rabbi delivered a sermon AGAINST photography... something like 'You need to live in the moment and just have your own memories.' We have not spoken since, and when we do I think I should unload on her. How ignorant! My old friend the Rabbi from 2 congregations ago, is an avid photographer who enjoyed taking pictures of his family. The current Rabbi doesn't allow picture taking during the service, although I think that I remember a camcorder or two at past Bar/Bat Mitzvah services. Regards, Bob S. Steve Larson wrote: Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Paul Str wrote: > Last Sunday my family attended the Bar Mitzvah of our > rabbi's eldest son. I agreed to leave my cameras at > home, figuring the event would be well-covered by the > digicam crowd and perhaps a pro. > > While I didn't see digicams, there were one or two > amateurs with camcorders and a pro whose only gear was > a Nikon FE-2, a Nikon 35-105 zoom, and a flash. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
At 13:13 15.05.02 +0200, you wrote: I believe many of us have been asking that already. At least I have. Not even the Pentax distributors know why just that this is a decision made by the marketing people in Japan. >BTW Didn't someone send a mail to Pentax Japan about just this a few >months back and got a reply that didn't really say anything except that it >was a marketing decision?. > >Pål Yes. That was the response to my first query a year ago:marketing reasons Second query 1/2 year ago: limited demand for LTD lenses: two color versions for international market not worthwhile for Pentax Knut - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Wed, 15 May 2002 06:35:05 -0700 > > Steve Larson wrote: > Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? > My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, > (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live > in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > > > Steve, > > Was this a rule of the church or the school? I would be > fuming too because this event only happens once in a > child's life and > I would want to document it and each and every other event > that happens. So sorry. Um, this is pretty common in churches - think weddings. I any case, it's a religious event, not a photo-op. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
At 13:09 15.05.02 +0200, you wrote: >Knut wrote: > >>Nevertheless I'm keenly waiting for the 'FA 17/2.8 AL limited' to hit the >>market. I recon it will cost between 1500 to 2000 ($ or Euro). But it will >>be worth it! > > >Have you information about a FA 17/2.8 Limited? I've heard about a FA >18/2.8 non limited. This information is final although the lens hasn't >been released yet; it certainly exist at the prototype stage. > >Pål I thought I got that from you and that you were talking about limited lenses at that time. I confused 17/18mm. AL is a wish of mine! Corner resolution is poor in most extreme wide angle lenses and could hopefully be improved by an aspheric element. Knut - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: leaving the list for a while
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 09:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When you say owning Pentax gear, does that have to be a Pentax camera > and lens? I have a Pentax screwmount lens but no > camera..BUT I have this adapter which allows me to use this lens on > a different brand camera. Will this suffice the > requirements of having Pentax gear to submit pictures to the PUG? That, I believe, is just fine: the requirement, as I understand it, is that either the body or the lens be Pentax. Since you've got a Pentax lens, anything you shoot with it would be perfectly fine for the PUG. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed
Wed, 15 May 2002 06:35:05 -0700 Steve Larson wrote: Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Steve, Was this a rule of the church or the school? I would be fuming too because this event only happens once in a child's life and I would want to document it and each and every other event that happens. So sorry. Francis Irvine, CA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-7 Meter Question
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Does the MZ-7 have matrix metering? Matrix metering is a Nikon term, actually, that everyone uses generically (much like Kleenex, Band-aid, etc.) The MZ-7 doesn't have matrix metering, but it does have multi-segment (six segments) metering. > If not, does it have multi-point metering? If you mean 'can it take multiple spot meter readings and average them like an OM-4', no. If you're asking whether or not it divides the scene into different segments and analyzes them according to programmed algorithms, then yes it does. I don't have a diagram of the system, but I might be able to get one. > Is there a diagram of the metering pattern somewhere on line, or does > anyone have a copy of the pattern that they could send me? Keep in mind that the actual pattern of segments means very little with multi-point metering. Here (unlike with center-weighted metering), what's more important is how the camera reads the scene and decides how much weight to give to each segment. With center-weighted systems, you know how much importance the camera is assigning each segment; with multi-segment metering, it would take an incredible amount of testing to even come close. And even these algorithms change between Pentax models with the same metering segment layout. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: leaving the list for a while
Stick around! Pentax lens or body will suffice for PUG. Posting to the list you don`t have to have either. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:39 AM Subject: Re: leaving the list for a while > On Tuesday, Tue, 14 May 2002 09:28:25 -0700 , Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Don't let that be your only reason -- please, stick around and talk, and > soak up the knowledge, if you want. Owning Pentax gear isn't really a > prerequisite, unless you're submitting pix to the PUG. ;) > > -Aaron > > > When you say owning Pentax gear, does that have to be a Pentax camera and lens? I have a Pentax screwmount lens but no > camera..BUT I have this adapter which allows me to use this lens on a different brand camera. Will this suffice the > requirements of having Pentax gear to submit pictures to the PUG? Maybe I don't have to leave the list after all. I could just > stick around and lurk and once in a while submit to the PUG (which I still have to do). Any comments from anyone? Thanks. > > > Francis > > > > > > > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed
2 months ago, at my nephew's Bar, I decided to put my D7 trough it's paces. My family loved my shots, because no matter how much was spent on video production and photography (Hasselbladt gear), they only did the regulation shots. My shot were the intimate ones of family and friends, that were never duplicated by the professionals. Also, my video slide show on VC-D are of higher resolution on the TV screen than the ones scanned professionally, and put on a VHS tape. Jeff - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed > Last Sunday my family attended the Bar Mitzvah of our rabbi's eldest son. I agreed to leave my cameras at home, figuring the event would be well-covered by the digicam crowd and perhaps a pro. > > While I didn't see digicams, there were one or two amateurs with camcorders and a pro whose only gear was a Nikon FE-2, a Nikon 35-105 zoom, and a flash. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-7 Meter Question
Does the MZ-7 have matrix metering? If not, does it have multi-point metering? Is there a diagram of the metering pattern somewhere on line, or does anyone have a copy of the pattern that they could send me? Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed
Was that the rules, to leave the camera home? My daughters first holy communion was weekend before last, (wife is catholic, I`m protestant, good thing we don`t live in Ireland), and the rules were no cameras, I`m still fuming! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Paul Str wrote: > Last Sunday my family attended the Bar Mitzvah of our rabbi's eldest son. I agreed to leave my cameras at home, figuring the event would be well-covered by the digicam crowd and perhaps a pro. > > While I didn't see digicams, there were one or two amateurs with camcorders and a pro whose only gear was a Nikon FE-2, a Nikon 35-105 zoom, and a flash. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: leaving the list for a while
On Tuesday, Tue, 14 May 2002 09:28:25 -0700 , Aaron Reynolds wrote: Don't let that be your only reason -- please, stick around and talk, and soak up the knowledge, if you want. Owning Pentax gear isn't really a prerequisite, unless you're submitting pix to the PUG. ;) -Aaron When you say owning Pentax gear, does that have to be a Pentax camera and lens? I have a Pentax screwmount lens but no camera..BUT I have this adapter which allows me to use this lens on a different brand camera. Will this suffice the requirements of having Pentax gear to submit pictures to the PUG? Maybe I don't have to leave the list after all. I could just stick around and lurk and once in a while submit to the PUG (which I still have to do). Any comments from anyone? Thanks. Francis This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SMC FA 28-105 new and old
Hi! I decided to buy Pentax 28-105 AF zoom. I know that this topic was many times on PDML, but maybe someone has an occasion to compare optical performance of the new SMC FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 with older (very good) 28-105/4-5.6 powerzoom? TIA!!! -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Weekend happenings...
On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 06:55 PM, Pat White wrote: > Very nice shots, Aaron! Hope you weren't banging around the delivery > room with a tripod, although the pictures look sharp enough for one. > That's the 800-speed film for you. Well done. Thanks! No tripod. Mostly 1/30 at f2.8 or f4, using MLU. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: an abused MX
Hi, On 15 May 2002 at 14:57, Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote: > > And quite probably it was used in a similar way. To sacrifice sheep? Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Tour de London camera shop this Saturday
For all those PDMLers living in or near London, I'm coming up to the big smoke this Saturday to tour around the good camera shops, both new and secondhand. I'll be looking at Pentax 35mm and 6x7 to see if I can find anything interesting. I am suffering from camera shop withdrawal symptoms and I have a little money to spend after selling the RB. I may be meeting up with Bob Walkden who will serve as my guide. Anyone else who wants to turn up let me know. Details of where to meet will follow later if there is any interest (hopefully more interest than people showed for Photographica... I don't bite, guys!). If you're lucky I might bring some glass to play with. Nothing spectacular; Tokina SL 17/3.5, Pentax K 35/3.5, K 50/1.2, K 135/2.5 and M 200/4... oh and a rattly K2. Cheers, - Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Richard Avedon
>From NPR's Writer's Almanac for May 15: It's the birthday of American photographer Richard Avedon, born in New York City (1923). He first tried his hand at fashion photography when he was a boy in New York, taking snapshots of his beautiful younger sister. His fashion shots showed his models being active and having fun, not just standing still in a studio, and his work revolutionized fashion photography. -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Do zooms teach visual discipline? Was: Advice Needed
Last Sunday my family attended the Bar Mitzvah of our rabbi's eldest son. I agreed to leave my cameras at home, figuring the event would be well-covered by the digicam crowd and perhaps a pro. While I didn't see digicams, there were one or two amateurs with camcorders and a pro whose only gear was a Nikon FE-2, a Nikon 35-105 zoom, and a flash. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - I can see clearly now...
Cotty wrote: > Sounds like you had a good time at Photographica. Out of interest, how > did you manage to hawk your RB67? I presume Peter allowed you a corner of > his stand? Or did you wander around wearing a gaberdeen mac with a large > bulge and whispering, "Oi, Bruce, wanna buy a *real* nice camera, mate?" Peter very kindly gave me some shelf space in behind that big wooden tripod with the mystery pancake lens (clue: think diameter, not thickness). It wasn't until near the end of the day that someone showed serious interest, it was a young guy who was making his first jump into medium format. He was looking pretty enabled but he wanted to take more of a look around before splashing out so much cash. I was getting pretty anxious by that stage because the thought of carrying that three ton bag of kit back to Bognor wasn't very pleasing. I'd already spent the Saturday afternoon lugging it around Brighton. I didn't expect to see him again because if he was after RB stuff there was some really nice gear on some of the other tables; nice pro-SD models with mint green-C lenses (my beast is the original model, non-C glass; real vintage stuff). The best-looking MF gear in the whole show. Of course if the lenses look mint they probably haven't been used so they've probably got sticky shutters anyway. He came back to me because the people at the other tables were just dealers who had never actually used the system before. He wasn't really familiar with the system so having me show him how it all fits together and works was a real bonus. When he asked me why I'm selling it I had to hold off from saying "I saw the true light of the Brotherhood, the way of the Pentax 6x7" in the enchanted voice. The room was too brightly lit and I wasn't wearing the Pentax robe with its screw-on metal hood and slip-on metal cap (available in black or silver Limited finish). I should have dropped it on the Nikon table, whoops those F5s are a little fragile aren't they... but that wouldn't have impressed the nice girl behind the table (the only reason I bothered going past it... quite a few times). - Dave, who really is behaving himself :) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: an abused MX
And quite probably it was used in a similar way. Lukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Anybody interested in getting the Pentax poster?
Joseph McAllister wrote: > I too would enjoy having such a poster, Dario. Rolled, not folded. Hmm, I must have missed this thread. Whats this Pentax poster and how much is it? I might be interested in one myself. Is there an image of it online somewhere? Cheers, Dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Newman and Sieff Books (was: Re: PUG - Definition of Portrait ?)
Concerning his newly acquired Sieff book, Cotty wrote: > My luck was in: on her return, she presented me with a brand new > copy! Called 'Faites Comme si Je n'Etais pas La' (trans: 'Make as > if I'm not here' - M. Sieff's favourite assurance to sitters) [Snip] Great Scott, Cotty! That's not only an excellent title for a book, but a perfect quotation to use as a signature file for e-mails to upper management, when one is feeling in a particularly devilish mood! ;-) (Provided "upper management" only speaks bureaucratese, and not French) Cheers! Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Lens and body color options
Alan wrote: >Perhaps someone might ask the reason for their marketing decision too >and report back to us. :) I believe many of us have been asking that already. At least I have. Not even the Pentax distributors know why just that this is a decision made by the marketing people in Japan. BTW Didn't someone send a mail to Pentax Japan about just this a few months back and got a reply that didn't really say anything except that it was a marketing decision?. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
