Re: minolta f2900 vs canon fs4000us vs nikon IV ed

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>i wish to scan 35mm negatives so i can print photos to A3 and A2 size
>16 x 20 inch and 32 x 40 inch
>
>i am looking at these 3 scanners
>any experineces or advice

Just bought the F-2900 few weeks ago. I have not used other film scanners so 
I cannot compare. As far as I can tell, it seems to bring out the detail 
pretty well, but not on par with Kodak PhotoCD (4000dpi). It is prone to 
show any flaws on films even the films look perfectly clean with my eyes. 
ICE works well, but it's not 100%, and it reduces the sharpness a bit, only 
a bit. Some deep scratches will remain but much less severe, still much 
better than without ICE. Touch up after applying ICE is much easier and much 
less time consuming than without it. However, ICE doesn't work with 
monochrome. I managed to scan them by choosing "colour negative" and then 
turned the scans into monochrome again n Photoshop. This way, I can still 
use ICE. Seems to work so far, but I have not done enough monochrome to know 
if this method works all the time. Consider the amount of time required to 
touch up the scans without ICE, I scan all my films with it on.

Colour correction could be problematic with some negatives, but never a 
problem with slides. However, some dense slides might appear a bit dark on 
the scans. The details on shaded areas are there, but you might need to 
boost the contrast or brightness of the monitor to notice them (I am no 
expert on calibration). I have not tested the Vuescan much so I do not know 
if it is much better than the original Minolta software which I am quite 
happy with so far. But do expect some fine tuning in Photoshop no matter how 
good the scans are (usually brightness and contrast).

8bit/channel scan with ICE is fast, but 16bit/channel with ICE and multipass 
(2/4/8/16) could take forever. My scanner comes with Adaptec 2903B SCSI card 
which I don't know much.

The only con is that the front of the scanner should have a dust cover. But 
then again, it was selling CAD600 only so I am not complaining.

>From what I have gathered so far, Canon 27xx film scanners "seem" to be the 
worst compared to Nikon and Minolta.  don't know about their 4000.

If you do 300dpi prints, this scanner can do roughly 8.6x13" after chopping.

regards,
Alan Chan


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28-105 zoom question

2002-08-03 Thread Andrew Robinson

On Adorama's web site, they are advertising this lens: SMCP-FA 28-105mm
3.2/4.5  AL Auto Focus Zoom Lens with Hood
(http://www.adoramaphoto.com/catalog.tpl?op=details&sid=102789794921181624&sku=PX28105AFN).
For availablity, they claim "New Item did not arrive yet, expected
shortly" The Pentax USA site does not list this lens. Anyone here know
anything about it? An extra half stop of brightness for an extra $10
sounds like a good deal.

Thanks!

Andrew Robinson
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Re: 70-2x0 zoom question

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>Auto focus is the point in this instance. I already have a nice set of 
>manual
>focus lenses. I'm looking to move up to autofocus now. Is the Tamron  AF or 
>MF?

Manual focus also.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: Zenitar fisheye question

2002-08-03 Thread William Johnson

Thanks Bill,

Mine was built in 2000 also, my friend's was built apparently this year, the sn is 
02 ( I can't remember the last 4) .  

Thanks again,

William in Utah.

8/3/2002 9:31:28 PM, "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mine doesn't.  If the usual Russian way of using serial numbers applies to
>lenses as well as cameras, mine was built in 2000.  Serial # is 004043.
>
>Bill
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "William Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:10 PM
>Subject: Zenitar fisheye question
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a  friend who just got one of these, and has noticed a "rattle"
>noise when he shakes it.  Mine does not rattle at all, but I've had it for
>almost 2 years, so I don't
>> know if maybe there was a change in manufacturing or if he got a lemon.
>Anyone out there with a Zenitar that rattles?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> William in Utah.
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FS: 135/1.8...

2002-08-03 Thread JTodd19261

I list these again since I only have a $700 offer on my 135/1.8 in Ex+ 
condition with caps.  I have other lenses to sell in hopes for a Canon D60 
outfit, but they all hinge on selling the 135 at a reasonable price ($1,000).

24/2.8Ex. cond
85/1.4 A*  Ex. cond  ($600 offer so far) w/shade
200/2.8 A*  Ex.+ cond
300/4 A*  Bgn. cond
2X-AS  Ex.+ cond

Please e-mail me directly, thanks.   Jay
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Re: please comment on this shot

2002-08-03 Thread Bill Owens

Big mistake! Never put something where you're sure you'll know where to find
it the next time you need it.

Bill

> I know I put my filters in a safe place somewhere.
>
> Wendy
>
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My Saturday ramblings

2002-08-03 Thread Bill Owens

We went to the local botanical garden today to get some "engagement shots"
for my son and his fiancé.  Terrible afternoon for photography though.  Hot,
humid, bright sun, and to top it all off it was mid day sun.  The 645 was
loaded with Delta 100, but awful contrasty with the high sun.  Would like to
have used some fill flash, but the AF360 was on the MZ-S loaded with Ilford
HP5.  The contact print on this roll looks much better since I dialed
in -1.5 stops of flash compensation.  Hindsight being what it is, I guess I
should have put the AF360 on the 645 and used the RTF on the MZ-S.  I shot a
roll of 160NC in the Kiev 60, and plan on getting is processed tomorrow and
hopefully scan some of them and see what gives.

Bill  KG4LOV
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Re: Zenitar fisheye question

2002-08-03 Thread Bill Owens

Mine doesn't.  If the usual Russian way of using serial numbers applies to
lenses as well as cameras, mine was built in 2000.  Serial # is 004043.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "William Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:10 PM
Subject: Zenitar fisheye question


> Hi,
>
> I have a  friend who just got one of these, and has noticed a "rattle"
noise when he shakes it.  Mine does not rattle at all, but I've had it for
almost 2 years, so I don't
> know if maybe there was a change in manufacturing or if he got a lemon.
Anyone out there with a Zenitar that rattles?
>
> Thanks,
>
> William in Utah.
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Re: please comment on this shot

2002-08-03 Thread wendy beard

At 09:37 3-8-2002 -0400, Frank wrote:
>  It (damn, I can't say "sucks", 'cause Wendy may read this ) isn't very
>well designed.

Hee hee, and I _was_ reading it too!
Been busy moving house over the last month so I could easily have missed it.
Off to the badlands and beyond next week so I'll be busy agin the next 
couple of days trying to locate all the little bits of gear I want to take 
with me. I know I put my filters in a safe place somewhere.

Wendy

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Re: FS: Goodies

2002-08-03 Thread Keith Whaley

Fred wrote:
> 
> > Harmon Kardon A50K tube amp.

Old glass...
 
> > Pentax SMC 135/2.5

Old glass... I DO have one, but it's marked ASAHI. I love it!
 
> ...two examples of excellent old glass...enjoy 'em both...

Forgot one old one...!
 
> Fred (K1FW)

An old HAM!  ;^)  Used to be a young one!

Keith Whaley
Ex-WA6GXC
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The weekend is half over.

2002-08-03 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

I am here at the computer after shooting a sprint triathlon.  Unfortunately
I did not have enough time to take shots other than the swim start and the
finish line.  Pity.  Maybe some Cabernet Sauvignon will let me put it all in
perspective :- )

I had prepped some cameras for candid photography on Monday night at a free
concert in the park. So, I was carrying...

MZ-S and ZX-5 loaded with 100 print film for the race.  I used both of them
in manul exposure mode using a Sekonic meter.  I had an LX with winder as a
back-up.  Did not need it.

I also toted two LX with b&w film (100 and 400).  My fourth LX had 100 color
slide film - shot two-thirds of a roll.  My final camera was my original
Pentax - a Super Program with 400 color slide film.

Ahhh, it was nice not having to select what camera would carry what film.
There is definitely some advantage to having numerous camera bodies.

I will have to go out and shoot something tomorrow now with all these
cameras loaded.

Oh, did I mention it was the first shots with MY 31 Limited,

César
Panama City, Florida
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Re: How much does it cost to fix a slow diaphragm?

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert

On 4 Aug 2002 at 0:34, Peter Spiro wrote:

> I was offered a 50mm A f/1.4 lens in mint condition, but I noticed that the
> diaphragm closes slowly.  It does not have any oil visible on it, which is the
> usual cause of slow diaphragms, so I'm concerned that a simple cleaning won't
> fix it, and it may have a more costly mechanical problem.  Does anybody have any
> experience with this?

Peter,

It could require a very simple repair, I have bought lenses with similar 
symptoms. All were fixed by removing the mount then cleaning and re-lubricating 
the aperture coupling rings which rotate at the rear of the lens and couple to 
the actual aperture mechanism.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Zenitar fisheye question

2002-08-03 Thread William Johnson

Hi,

I have a  friend who just got one of these, and has noticed a "rattle" noise when he 
shakes it.  Mine does not rattle at all, but I've had it for almost 2 years, so I 
don't 
know if maybe there was a change in manufacturing or if he got a lemon.  Anyone out 
there with a Zenitar that rattles?  

Thanks,

William in Utah. 
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Re: 70-2x0 zoom question

2002-08-03 Thread Andrew Robinson

Alan Chan wrote:

> >In response to my queries about autofocus telephoto zooms, a couple of
> >folks have recommended the Pentax 70-200 f4-5.6 F or FA lenses. Someone
> >else instead recommended the Pentax 70-210 zoom. Elsewhere I found a
> >comment that the 70-210 zoom is not considered highly. Has anyone got
> >the scoop on these two (actually three) lenses?
>
> If AF was not required, I think the SMC PENTAX-A 70-210/4 (there is one on
> eBay now) would be the best choice (excluding the FA* of course). The Tamron
> SP 70-210/3.5 is also good.

Auto focus is the point in this instance. I already have a nice set of manual
focus lenses. I'm looking to move up to autofocus now. Is the Tamron  AF or MF?

Thanks!

Andrew
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Re: FS: Goodies

2002-08-03 Thread Fred

> Harmon Kardon A50K tube amp.

> Pentax SMC 135/2.5

...two examples of excellent old glass...enjoy 'em both...

Fred (K1FW)
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Re: The new black and white photo postage stamps in the USA

2002-08-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> > The reason they are scarce is not just their enormous popularity because
> > they are so handsome, but because, I was told, "one of the photographers
> > complained"  since they are all dead, I presume
> > my postal friend just misspoke.
> >
> > So which of the (c) owners was responsible for this?  I wonder if they
> > will reissue with
> > one different photographer in the mix ?  Do all you guys already have
> > your batches?
> >
>
> Interesting. I had absolutely no problem getting those either time that I
> went to buy them. One was yesterday.
>
> Guess I'd better decide QUICK if I want any more and, if so, visit the PO
> bright & early Monday morning.
>
> ERNR
>

Where do you live??
I guess I should have pointed out that I live in NYC.  It occured to me that
more
rural areas might be better to try to get more - or just a smaller post office.

I was told they were permitted to sell what ever stock was already in any given
post office but that there would be no more delivered for distribution.
annsan

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How much does it cost to fix a slow diaphragm?

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Spiro

I was offered a 50mm A f/1.4 lens in mint condition, but I noticed that the 
diaphragm closes slowly.  It does not have any oil visible on it, which is 
the usual cause of slow diaphragms, so I'm concerned that a simple cleaning 
won't fix it, and it may have a more costly mechanical problem.  Does 
anybody have any experience with this?


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Re: Pentax In Print

2002-08-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Jim Fellows
Subject: Pentax In Print


> I just received my September issue of Model Railroader and
they have an
> article on the basics of Model photography.  While the article
does not
> mention Pentax, there is a nice shot of a K1000 with a M F2
50mm at the
> start of the article.  Always nice to see free marketing out
there.

Last I heard, Mike Johnson was editing that magazine. I suspect
that, as much as anything is why Pentax is shown in the article.
William Robb
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Subject: LX repair update


> Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable
repairing facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax
repair man a couple of months ago. I can't remember the details
but he claimed that many LX bodies was not in fact repaired
properly as some servicing people were not familiar with the
quirks of the LX. Often the symptom was fixed but not the
underlaying cause.

Whether the camera is inherently unreliable or whether I cannot
get repairs done reliably is moot. What is germaine (to me,
anyway) is that my 3 LX's are going in for service far more
often than they should be.
I have used both Pentax Canada facilities, and an independant
repair company.
None have made my cameras what I would call dependable.
If Pentax can't make the camera repairs, then they have a
problem. If that is what is making my cameras unreliable, then I
still have unreliable cameras.

My first LX, which I bought new, needed service within 3 years
of being purchased.

My friends F3 will be 20 this year, and has NEVER seen a repair
shop. This is what reliablility is about.

For the record. it doesn't matter about the reliability of the
camera, it is still, in my estimation, the best 35mm camera I
have had the pleasure of owning. If I thought otherwise, I
wouldn't have bought 3 of them, and a bunch of dedicated
accessories.
William Robb
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Help with LX repair

2002-08-03 Thread William Kane

Hey gang,

I need a bit of a hand with sending off an LX repair.  As you know, 
I'm in Illinois, USA.  My LX just decided to break on me.  The shutter 
lock collar will not turn enough to the right to turn the camera on.

I need to know where to send it for repair.  Those that have used 
Pentax USA within the past 2 years:  Do you think I should send it there 
(Yes, I've been following recent threads, I want a more direct opinion 
including RECENT data) . . .

. . . or, alternatively, is there another location that others have 
had good luck with?

Also, has anyone experienced this problem with the LX?

Thanks,
IL Bill
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minolta f2900 vs canon fs4000us vs nikon IV ed

2002-08-03 Thread happyness

i wish to scan 35mm negatives so i can print photos to A3 and A2 size
16 x 20 inch and 32 x 40 inch

i am looking at these 3 scanners
any experineces or advice
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Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Len Paris
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update


> The F3 is a great camera but I wouldn't want to step down to a
> flash sync speed of 1/60th again.  Though I admit that, if I
> could get an F3/T, I'd be hard pressed to turn it down.  The
FM3
> is a very good camera.

The F3 flash sync is 1/80, the mechanical release operates at
1/60th.
I disliked the placement of the meter readout enough to change
camera brands.
William Robb
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Re: The new black and white photo postage stamps in the USA

2002-08-03 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 8/3/2002 6:09:47 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


> when I tried to get these today at my regular post office the
> clerks started giggling.
> (I know them all, cause I spend a lot of time there mailing ebay stuff -
> so they were not being rude.)
> 
> The reason they are scarce is not just their enormous popularity because
> they are so handsome, but because, I was told, "one of the photographers
> complained"  since they are all dead, I presume
> my postal friend just misspoke.
> 
> So which of the (c) owners was responsible for this?  I wonder if they
> will reissue with
> one different photographer in the mix ?  Do all you guys already have
> your batches?
> 

Interesting. I had absolutely no problem getting those either time that I 
went to buy them. One was yesterday.

Guess I'd better decide QUICK if I want any more and, if so, visit the PO 
bright & early Monday morning.

ERNR
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Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

The F3 is a great camera but I wouldn't want to step down to a
flash sync speed of 1/60th again.  Though I admit that, if I
could get an F3/T, I'd be hard pressed to turn it down.  The FM3
is a very good camera.

Len
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- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Rubenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update


> I'm sure about what's happened to the F3 used market, but I
see quite a few
> going for under $300 on ebay. Very tempting. Then I remind
myself that I've
> got to save for that FM3a.
>
> BR
>
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hmmm, spend another grand on the LX's, or buy a couple of used
> F3s..
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Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

That makes the F3 wth MD just a tad heavier than a Pentax 67II
body only.  Somehow I thought thhe F3 with drive would be a bit
heavier than that.

Len
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update


> In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:41:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > If it has the motor drive attached, the F3 is probably
heavier.
> > Though I guess I could go through my reference material and
come
> > up with a weight for the F3 with, and without, a motor
drive.
> >
> >
>
> F3 weight, 715G
> MD-4 motor drive, 480G
>
> -Brendan MacRae
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Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

Well, I think that's the real heart of the problem. There is just about
nowhere in North America that you can send a LX to for repair and be
confident that it will be done right. It doesn't matter what sort of wonder
of reliability the camera was when it came out of the factory 20 years ago.
Now it's old and needs a "tune-up" to the "factory", and it comes back
either in worse shape than when you sent it in (my personal experience), or
a rather temporary repair. The net effect is that for people in N.A. LX's
aren't very reliable cameras, and are close to being more trouble than
they're worth. Perfect Norwegian LX's don't help us here.

From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update
Sounds like you should be questioning the competence of your chosen repair
facility? Not good :-(

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The new black and white photo postage stamps in the USA

2002-08-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I've deleted and skimmed a lot on this list so I may not be telling you
guys anything you didnt
know, but when I tried to get these today at my regular post office the
clerks started giggling.
(I know them all, cause I spend a lot of time there mailing ebay stuff -
so they were not being rude.)

The reason they are scarce is not just their enormous popularity because
they are so handsome, but because, I was told, "one of the photographers
complained"  since they are all dead, I presume
my postal friend just misspoke.

So which of the (c) owners was responsible for this?  I wonder if they
will reissue with
one different photographer in the mix ?  Do all you guys already have
your batches?

Anyway, I went to the main post office philatetic window - as suggested
by my clerk friend -
bought 5 sheets of them - 2 for presents, one for me, 2 to retire on
later :)

Anyone with the whole story on this or a place on the web for me to read
about it?

For those of you not in the USA - our postal rates just went up so they
went out of their way
to make particularly lovely stamps to make the transition less painful,
I think.  The photogs
included are Weston, Strand, "St. Ainsel", Lange,Steichen, Steiglitz,
Man Ray , Gene Smith, Evans..
and more. No Bourke-White tho. pout pout.

annsan who continues to procrastinate 3 days before departure.
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Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

The F3 is about 5oz heavier than the LX. They were both intended for the
same use and market. Maybe Nikon has a better idea of what kind of
reliability is expected of this class of camera.


From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:

  I think that the comparison to the
F3 is a bit unfair by the way.  It is much bigger,
almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build in
reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
something wrong.
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Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

I'm sure about what's happened to the F3 used market, but I see quite a few
going for under $300 on ebay. Very tempting. Then I remind myself that I've
got to save for that FM3a.

BR

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hmmm, spend another grand on the LX's, or buy a couple of used
F3s..
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FS: K 200mm F4

2002-08-03 Thread Steven Brendemuehl

This is a mint or realy close to mint lens.
It has the origional caps.
I would like $125 Or your best resonable offer.
Steve
KC8TPR
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Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Dayton

Alan,

No meter coupling chain anymore and the frame advance was reworked.  I
suspect the 67II is more reliable in those particular areas.


Bruce



Saturday, August 3, 2002, 2:18:59 PM, you wrote:

>>I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they 
>>are unreliable.

AC> I wonder if P67II was more reliable.

AC> regards,
AC> Alan Chan


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Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:41:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> If it has the motor drive attached, the F3 is probably heavier.
> Though I guess I could go through my reference material and come
> up with a weight for the F3 with, and without, a motor drive.
> 
> 

F3 weight, 715G
MD-4 motor drive, 480G

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Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

If it has the motor drive attached, the F3 is probably heavier.
Though I guess I could go through my reference material and come
up with a weight for the F3 with, and without, a motor drive.

Len
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update


> >I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the
way.  It is
> >much bigger,
> >almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build
in
> >reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
> >something wrong.
>
> Perhaps you mixed up the F3 with F4 or F5. I don't see how the
Nikon F3 can
> be as big or heavy as P67.
>
> regards,
> Alan Chan
>
>
>

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Re: Vs: Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>Look here:
>
>http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtBR2.htm
>
>The Bessa R2 does accept the M series Leica lenses.
>
>TEMPTING!!

And unlike other Bessa, this one is metal.

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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>The trouble is that often the focus will be out slightly too and it gets 
>worse
>progressively.

And that means no more super sharp pictures.  :(

regards,
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they 
>are unreliable.

I wonder if P67II was more reliable.

regards,
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>Doesn't this rather prove that you are using an unreliable repairing 
>facility? In fact, I discussed this with the Pentax repair man a couple of 
>months ago. I can't remember the details but he claimed that many LX bodies 
>was not in fact repaired properly as some servicing people were not 
>familiar with the quirks of the LX. Often the symptom was fixed but not the 
>underlaying cause.

This is possible.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Mark Roberts

"David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks Mark.
>I wrote this sort of by the seat of my pants,so 
>to speak.I did the tutorial on inter.net and 
>have been adjusting the code slightly each time 
>i upload pictures.This may be the problem as 
>i'm just "piece meal"ing the thing with no 
>flow

David,

I just checked your home page with the HTML validator in Alaire HomeSite and it
came up with 60 errors (and I have the validation sst just to show actual arrors
rather than minor stuff). 

I'd recommend getting an HTML validator like "A Real Validator"
(http://arealvalidator.com/) I think it costs $25.00 but you can download a
30-day trial version for free. Sticking to valid code will not only make your
page more compatible with different browsers, it'll help it render quicker too
(especially important in the case of visitors with slow dial-up connections -
they don't call it the "world wide" web for nuthin'). Also get Elizabeth
Castro's book "HTML 4 for the World Wide Web". There's a web page for the book
at http://www.peachpit.com/vqs/html4

For general usability information there's no better source than Dr. Jakob
Nielsen, who is *the* authority on web usability. His web site is at
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/
See in particular:

Top Ten Guidelines for Homepage Usability
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20020512.html

Ten Good Deeds in Web Design
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/991003.html
(This page links to several other excellent pages of his, "the original top-ten
mistakes of Web design", "the top-ten new mistakes of Web design" and "the
top-ten mistakes of Web project management"

Stuck With Old Browsers 
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990418.html

I particularly subscribe to Dr. Nielsen's belief that lack of support for old
browsers should be proportional to your willingness to turn away potentially
useful visitors. Most people are quite reluctant to upgrade browsers and surveys
show that this tendency is *growing*, not decreasing, as the web matures. The #1
page on the net (in terms of traffic), yahoo.com, makes sure its page works with
browsers back to versions 3.0.

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Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

>I think that the comparison to the F3 is a bit unfair by the way.  It is 
>much bigger,
>almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build in 
>reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
>something wrong.

Perhaps you mixed up the F3 with F4 or F5. I don't see how the Nikon F3 can 
be as big or heavy as P67.

regards,
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Re: blank fire

2002-08-03 Thread Alan Chan

Well, shxt things happened. Luckily you didn't shoot with your friends.  :)

regards,
Alan Chan

>Today I was shooting with my new Ricoh XR-8 Super at a park nearby.
>Altimately the frame counter reached 36. I thought that I may be able to
>squeeze out 2 more at least and went ahead, 38 now. But hey! I can advance
>it further. I was over joyed. Took one more, 39 now. To my surprise, I
>found that I can get one more. I grew suspicious. This is impossible. I
>replaced the lens cap on the lens, adjusted the aperture to minimum
>aperture setting (f/22), adjusted the shutter speed to the fastest and
>depressed the shutter to avoid any multiple exposure if frame no 39 is
>really there and had been exposed. I found that it was possible to
>'advance the film' further and further. I didn't noticed whether the film
>rewind knob is rotating or not.
>Has the film snapped?
>Or is it a faulty body?
>The next moment, I rushed to the shop from where I purchased it. He
>checked it and said,"probably you have not loaded the film correctly"
>"What? What are you saying?"
>"Plese let me check."
>He inserted the camera in a changing bag and confirmed that he was right.
>
>Boy, oh boy! I blank fired 40 bullets. :-((
>First time in my life.
>
>Cheers,
>Ayash.


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Re: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread Jeff

Leica/Minolta "CL". Gorgeous!

Jeff

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From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: TOPDML Piccies


> Is that a Leica C1? I can find no CL on the Leica site, and they list
> way back to beyond the IIIa.
> Or, was that a short-lived unit that was only made for a time and
withdrawn?
> Or, maybe it's brand new and Leica doesn't have it on their site yet!
> Curious...
>
> keith
>
> frank theriault wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Keith,
> >
> > Sorry about the Lcica  :-(
> >
> > But, in my defence, there's a pic of a Pentax in each shot!  :-)  Just
to
> > keep it topical...
> >
> > Actually, those were the first couple of shots I took with the CL,
having
> > bought it from Dave, a couple of days before.  So I just couldn't resist
> > "showing it off" to Jeff.
> >
> > One thing I've noticed about that Leica, now that I've put several rolls
> > through it, is that the metering system (I wouldn't call it
"spotmetering";
> > it only meters a smallish spot, in the centre of the frame, but not
small
> > enough an area to call true spotmetering) is great for the types of
> > situations just like the pic of Dave and his LX.  That is to say, where
the
> > subject is much brighter or darker than the background.
> >
> > And, you've already figured out that TOPDML is "TorontO Pentax Discuss
Mail
> > List", which at this point is about 6 of us who get together on a
> > semi-regular basis, for drinks and photo talk.  There's a get together
next
> > weekend, but I'll be on vacation, which is too bad, because the meet
will be
> > at a Beer Tasting Festival.
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Lithium bats and Motor Drive A

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae

Hey gang...

I've tried Lithium AA's in my Motor Drive A and while making it a lot lighter 
(the only reason I chose these bats) they don't seem to have the same power 
output as good alkalines. After about 28 frames or so they want to give out.

What's the deal? Is the current output lower in these babies?

-Brendan MacRae
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Re: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread Jeff

> I was fine with the blades and the LX, it offered me maneuverability and
> such. Also allowed me to get shots like this:
> http://www.usefilm.com/showphoto.php?id=19397  :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
Please help. I have to scan my 6x9 Provia 400 of the same shot.
I think I can make out the reflection of a couple of drunk photographers in
the chrome of the exhaust pipes.

Jeff.
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae

Pal,

I have to agree with most of your comments. Most LX's are older cameras now. 
The fact that there are so many still being used and enjoyed is a good 
measure of their sound design and reliability.

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Re: please comment on this shot

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae

Very nice pic.

Very good light and nice composition.

I'd like to try that lens.

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Re: Vs: Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Bmacrae

In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:34:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> That´s what I thought when Bessa R2 was introduced - but now I think that it
> has to be a model which does *not* accept Leica lenses

Raimo,

Look here:

http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtBR2.htm

The Bessa R2 does accept the M series Leica lenses.

TEMPTING!!

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Re: SMC K 45-125

2002-08-03 Thread andre

>...few zooms can be used wide open and produce photos with good 
>sharpness AND contrast.

I was meaning "good DEFINITION and contrast" as sharpness is an 
impression based on the relation between resolution and contrast. 
The concept of "acutance" is also in the vicinity, according to 
Arthur Cox.

Andre
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

I realize I am a weirdo.  I keep my IE browser up to date and,
though I don't currently use it, I order Netscape on CD whenever
they offer the latest and greatest.  I just pre-ordered Netscape
7.0, so they'll send me a CD-ROM copy as soon as they make it
available.  The reason I do this sort of thing is because a lot
of my friends rely on me to keep their computers up and running
for them.  I am an old fart, 66-years old, and I've been
involved in home computers from the beginning, unlike most of my
peers.  I don't get anything out of doing it except for the
satisfaction and bragging rights, which are, in actuality, a
lot. :-)

I believe that, whenever we start to have trouble displaying
websites, it's time to upgrade our browser.  Computer languages,
like HTML, XML , et al,  are evolving.  Syntax should evolve
towards the simple, not the complex.  Opening tags should remain
in effect until a new opening tag is used, which should make
closing tags unnecessary, or mostly so, anyway.  There are
always special cases.

I look forward to the day that I can enter into an oral,
conversational dialogue with my PC and have it execute my
commands without need for keyboard or mouse.  That day is
coming, just not as quickly as I would like.

Len
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: OT:Web page check


> "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Thanks William and Steve.I'll check with the
> >people who are having problems and see if the
> >are using NS 4ish.
>
> Try an HTML validator. If you write to valid HTML 4
transitional you'll be
> pretty safe. As of now you should still be supporting 4.x
generation browsers.
>
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Re: SMC K 45-125

2002-08-03 Thread andre

Robert, this might be the best non-pro zoom Pentax ever built.  A 
test in Camerart (a Japanese magazine written in english) showed that 
it is good wide open, something uncommon then, except for some of the 
best C*n*n and N*k*n zooms.  I don't know if this is still true for 
the latest non-pro zooms, but few zooms can be used wide open and 
produce photos with good sharpness AND contrast.

It is a bit long and feels better on a bigger K body than on M 
bodies.  Newer bodies with grips and M bodies used with a winder 
handles very well with this lens.  I would call it a portrait lens as 
you can take someone from head to foot at 45mm and "head'n shoulders" 
at 125mm.

The ones that were used very little tend to have a slightly stiff 
zoom ring but it may get smoother with use as I have seen a few used 
ones with a quite smooth ring (but still feeling perfect 
mechanically). Stiffness is a question of taste anyway.

Its hood consists of a step-up ring 58-67 and a shallow hood that 
screws in.  Why?  If you put a 58mm filter on it, it will vignette at 
the minimum focusing distance with the zoom set at 60-70mm.  No big 
deal.  I wouldn't bother getting (or using) the hood and 67mm 
filters.  The hand is a better hood at longer settings (the thumb 
supporting the end of the lens at the same time) because the hood 
does only the job for the shortest setting (45mm).  And 58mm filters 
are cheaper and fit many other Pentax lenses.

If you buy it, please tell us about the results.

Andre


>Hi all,
>
>I am considering purchasing this lens.  What are your thoughts and opinions
>on it: bokeh, versatility, resolution, contrast, build quality, etc.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Robert
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Mark Roberts

"David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks William and Steve.I'll check with the 
>people who are having problems and see if the 
>are using NS 4ish.

Try an HTML validator. If you write to valid HTML 4 transitional you'll be
pretty safe. As of now you should still be supporting 4.x generation browsers.

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Re: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread Keith Whaley

Thanks... I see the CL is covered very well in there...

Now, if I could just afford one!

keith

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 8/3/2002 10:39:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Is that a Leica C1? I can find no CL on the Leica site, and they list
> > way back to beyond the IIIa.
> > Or, was that a short-lived unit that was only made for a time and
> > withdrawn?
> > Or, maybe it's brand new and Leica doesn't have it on their site yet!
> > Curious...
> >
> 
>  HREF="http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm";>http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
> 
> (Pentax-related content -- there's also an article about the Pentax Limited
> lenses on that site, as I recall)
> 
> ERNR
> My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed
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Re: Shots from tonight

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert

On 2 Aug 2002 at 18:16, Artur Ledóchowski wrote:

> It seems that NGH II 800 nicely compensates for different color temperature of
> the available light. It's grain and sharpness seems to be really good, too. I
> definitely have to give it a try... I especially like the pic of the woman
> looking up. It's a nice portrait.

Hi Artur,

I too like NGH II 800 very much for its wide latitude and low contrast, it's 
great for many high contrast applications. The pics that I presented were 
however shot with my Oly E-10.

On 2 Aug 2002 at 18:36, Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote:

> I too like the portrait of the woman best. IMHO it's the only one of these
> photos that doesn't need cropping. But otherwise they are very good - I love
> blurred pictures (I'm in the "bokeh- blurry-slow-shutter" period now :)
> 
> BTW - as Artur has already mentioned, very natural skin colors (well,
> bearing in mind indoor lighs of course).

Hi Lukasz,

I just wish the effective ISO of the Oly was higher, as the light was very poor 
so the exposure was 0.5s and the subject moved. I set the colour balance for 
warm tungsten light I didn't white balance but if I had the skin colour would 
have been near perfect.

On 2 Aug 2002 at 13:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Rob.
> 
> I wonder, does your Olympus have slow speed flash sync?
>  I have found that these smaller gigs with their limited lighting ie no white
>  follow spots, often benefit from a slow speed with fill approach - around 1/8th
>  or so often works. I know we are "not supposed to" use flash but Frits has a
>  nice example of what I mean - unless he has dumped it?? (It's on my broken
>  drive). Also the predominantly reddish lighting doesn't help; switching to
>  tungsten like a lot of photo magazine features suggest is simply ghastly. I
>  will await your LXen pix with bated breath.

Hi Peter,

The Oly has SS Sync and full FS to 1/640th however I flash wasn't appropriate 
in this instance. (+Paul) The LXen pix may be a while away, have to sell some 
gear on the Bay before I can afford a new LS8000 scanner, that is of course 
unless the Pentax DSLR doesn't come first (I think I'm safe).

On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> UGH! I've done this myself!

> Rob, I totally sympathize with your plight here. It's a tricky environment to
> shoot in. I've been doing a lot of shooting of bands lately and it's definately
> a harrowing experience. I have had good luck simply pushing 800 color neg and,
> of course, pushing Tri-X.

There is no excuse however .it was reaalllyyy loud and I would normally 
have heard the camera also since it was dark I couldn't really see indicators 
in the finder too well plus they only played for one short set so it was pretty 
rushed and I was sharing the lens set amongst two bodies. I kicked myself for 
not double checking like I should have. :-(
 
> Here's a couple I got recently of a group in San Francisco. These were taken
> with the LX (with the SC-69), 85mm f1.4, on consumer 800 rated 1600 and pushed.
> I didn't use any color correction:
> I was able to get some fairly quick speeds out of the LX (1/125?) as I recall
> that night. Most of the shots were wide open on aperture-priority. It appears as
> though your group didn't have nearly the same amount of light on them. I was
> lucky enough to put the word out that I needed more light so the guy I knew in
> the band had the tech leave the house lights at 50% for the whole show. This
> made all the difference. That allowed me to go from a 1/8 to a 1/30 at center
> stage. I figured as long as they don't jump around too much I'd be OK. I still
> managed to shoot mostly at 1/60 sec or slightly faster as the lights changed
> throughout the show.

Hi Brendan,

Great shots, I hope I get out of it that well, you're quite right too the 
lights were crappy old style spots all gelled and the lighting guy had had one 
too many tokes I suspect :-) 

When I was with it and aware I was seeing shutter speeds of 1/30 and 1/60th on 
occasions. They are a pretty active bunch so I'm just hoping that they're 
recognizable, I would have like to have been shooting at 1600 as it would have 
given me a little more latitude. I used all the lenses wide open, I shot 
sitting on the ground, standing and resting lightly on the fold back speakers 
(24mm straight up), it looked pretty interesting in the finder.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert

On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:50, William Robb wrote:

> Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the camera (I am the guy who
> insisted on the LX Gallery, after all), but I am not going to
> kid myself thinking that it is more reliable than crack addict.
> You can kid yourself all you like.

I had 2 P67 break, in both the meter aperture coupling chains failed, they are 
unreliable. My M6 cameras have been very reliable however I expect that they 
would need to have the RF aligned after the types of knocks that my LXs have 
received and survived. I have had only stick mirror, bent rewind cranks and ISO 
resistor problems with my LX, nothing more than I would expect.

Cheers,

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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert

On 3 Aug 2002 at 0:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've had very few real problems with my LXs (four and counting) (I know, it's a
> sickness). One thing I notice on the PUG that I don't really agree with is the
> quick suggestion by everyone to have a CLA on an LX every time it acts up. I
> think it's like a car, the less you send them in for repair, the less chance you
> are going to have any problem with them. Take care of them, use them, and you
> should be okay. Even a little sticky mirror is no big deal. It usually only
> sticks for the first shot. I suggest you use the mirror lockup once or twice and
> shoot away.  Only if it becomes a real problem do I send them in for CLA. 

The trouble is that often the focus will be out slightly too and it gets worse 
progressively.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: Leica maintenance was: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Rob Studdert

On 2 Aug 2002 at 16:56, William Robb wrote:

>> > In Canadian Dollar terms (I'm not sure how much in CDN this is
> costing
> > William.. but I'm guessing.. you can't put a cash value on his
> frustration
> > and wasted time) a Leica M6 CLA is about $400.00 via a local
> (Toronto)
> > company that specializes in Leica.
> 
> For the record: LX#2 was serviced 20 months ago, and then again
> 2 months ago. This time was just a tad over Can$300.00.
> LX#3 was serviced 18 months ago, and again 2 months ago, this
> sime as a bit over Can$300.00.
> LX#1 was serviced about 2 1/2 years ago, and is in the shop
> again, with a repair estimate of around 400.00, but then again,
> they don't have the right parts, so I suppose it could change.
> 
> Hmmm, spend another grand on the LX's, or buy a couple of used
> F3s..

Sounds like you should be questioning the competence of your chosen repair 
facility? Not good :-(

Cheers,

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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Doug Franklin

On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 09:33:44 -0400, Peter Alling wrote:

> I looked at the html source and It looks to me that your
> table isn't formed correctly.

Netscape 4.x is very sensitive to malformed table structures.  In
particular, make absolutely sure _every_ table, tr, and td tag has a
proper closing tag.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 8/3/2002 10:39:40 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Is that a Leica C1? I can find no CL on the Leica site, and they list
> way back to beyond the IIIa.
> Or, was that a short-lived unit that was only made for a time and 
> withdrawn?
> Or, maybe it's brand new and Leica doesn't have it on their site yet!
> Curious...
> 

 http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm";>http://www.cameraquest.com/leicacl.htm
 

(Pentax-related content -- there's also an article about the Pentax Limited 
lenses on that site, as I recall)

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Re: havent left quite yet - one quick question cause you guys are smart

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling

I haven't really got any good advice about the answering machine except
to say the in my experience AT&T machines have very limited software options
and no documentation that I know of.  (Get another answering machine, at least
that's the Microsoft answer ;) ).

I wouldn't mention that I'm taking my LX across country if I didn't want to get
a rant about using such an unreliable piece of equipment for my valuable 
photographs
from certain people on the list.  (A word to the Wise).

And Please Please Please don't mention the OS you're using.  I've tried so 
hard to
keep out of this and it's really been very difficult.

P. S. Have a wonderful time.

At 11:24 AM 8/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Boy, you have to work hard sometimes to get your mail read on here in
>the middle of
>an OT fight :)
>
>I'll unsubscribe on Monday - please do reply to me privately about this.
>
>If you know anything at all about AT&T answering machines or where I can
>actually get
>a person to pick up a phone to answer me or I can see a manual on the
>web  please read further
>
>Question is simply: How do you delete messages on an model 1314 when you
>are away ?
>I call in to pick them up with a code provided in the inside of the
>machine - a 2 digit number  that
>I punch in while my message is playing.  I tried using that number at
>the end of the messages
>left but that didnt work.  Any ideas or real info guys?
>
>Obligatory Pentax content - My LX is ready to accompany me across the
>country.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>annsan
>
>p.s. Dell Pentium III, windoze 98.  The hardware is fine - the software
>can make me crazy.
>and I still use DOS for some stuff, too.
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Re: please comment on this shot

2002-08-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:

> (snip)

> Now this has nothing to do with the shot, but I don't like that site.  The image
> loads right on top of the technical info, so I can't see what camera/lens
> combination was used.  Is that just me and my server, or same for everyone
> else?  It (damn, I can't say "sucks", 'cause Wendy may read this ) isn't very
> well designed.
>

It isn't jsut your server, or browser, Frank - I said much the same thing but you
said it
more precisely  - it S***'s , big time :)  )

annsan
damn - I'm supposed to be doing before-i-leave chores!
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Re: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread Keith Whaley

Is that a Leica C1? I can find no CL on the Leica site, and they list
way back to beyond the IIIa.
Or, was that a short-lived unit that was only made for a time and withdrawn?
Or, maybe it's brand new and Leica doesn't have it on their site yet!
Curious...

keith

frank theriault wrote:
> 
> Hi, Keith,
> 
> Sorry about the Lcica  :-(
> 
> But, in my defence, there's a pic of a Pentax in each shot!  :-)  Just to
> keep it topical...
> 
> Actually, those were the first couple of shots I took with the CL, having
> bought it from Dave, a couple of days before.  So I just couldn't resist
> "showing it off" to Jeff.
> 
> One thing I've noticed about that Leica, now that I've put several rolls
> through it, is that the metering system (I wouldn't call it "spotmetering";
> it only meters a smallish spot, in the centre of the frame, but not small
> enough an area to call true spotmetering) is great for the types of
> situations just like the pic of Dave and his LX.  That is to say, where the
> subject is much brighter or darker than the background.
> 
> And, you've already figured out that TOPDML is "TorontO Pentax Discuss Mail
> List", which at this point is about 6 of us who get together on a
> semi-regular basis, for drinks and photo talk.  There's a get together next
> weekend, but I'll be on vacation, which is too bad, because the meet will be
> at a Beer Tasting Festival.
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Re: please comment on this shot

2002-08-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Nice patterns in the foreground -- looks like some vignetting up top.
However, I'd get myself a better place to display it if you can.
the site is cluttered and totally distracts from your image.
(with NEtscape 4.6 the picture unfolds across a background of
writing.

annsan
newbee wrote:

> http://www.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=191170
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havent left quite yet - one quick question cause you guys are smart

2002-08-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Boy, you have to work hard sometimes to get your mail read on here in
the middle of
an OT fight :)

I'll unsubscribe on Monday - please do reply to me privately about this.

If you know anything at all about AT&T answering machines or where I can
actually get
a person to pick up a phone to answer me or I can see a manual on the
web  please read further

Question is simply: How do you delete messages on an model 1314 when you
are away ?
I call in to pick them up with a code provided in the inside of the
machine - a 2 digit number  that
I punch in while my message is playing.  I tried using that number at
the end of the messages
left but that didnt work.  Any ideas or real info guys?

Obligatory Pentax content - My LX is ready to accompany me across the
country.

Thanks for any help.
annsan

p.s. Dell Pentium III, windoze 98.  The hardware is fine - the software
can make me crazy.
and I still use DOS for some stuff, too.
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Bruce Dayton

David,

I just went to the site.  It opens fine.  I could also open the "More
2002 CE pictures" link.  However once in that page, the bottom row of
thumbnails do not display.  I can display the full size images but not
see the thumbnails.


Bruce



Saturday, August 3, 2002, 5:15:44 AM, you wrote:

DB> Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related 
DB> pictures to my site recently,and some of the 
DB> riders are telling me they cannot open the 
DB> site,or they can open but the link for "more 
DB> 2002 CE pictures " is not working.
DB> It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some 
DB> reseon,the thumbnails are not being 
DB> displayed.The pictures opo up when you click 
DB> them though.

DB> Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the 
DB> page below and let me know what is happening 
DB> please.

DB> Thanks 
DB> Dave
DB> http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj


DB> Pentax User
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

I guess that HTML evolves and we have to upgrade our browsers to
evolve with it.

Len
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: OT:Web page check


> To be more specific, everything works fine (thumbnails, etc.)
except with Netscape 4.5, where *some* links show up, just not
the one you mention along with a few
> others.
>
> William in Utah.
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling

That should be B52

At 10:51 AM 8/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Well at least I got a rise out of you.  Yes I know I overstated the case and
>when I described the F3 as being as big as a 67.  I kept away from any numbers
>because well it's impression that seems to be counting here and my 
>impression of
>the F3 is that it's huge.
>
>I have to take exception to the airplane analogy.  The apex of mechanical 
>camera
>design camera design was in the mid to late 1980's  I doubt that there is 
>much different
>in the FE3 mechanically from a medium duty Nikon of that era.  The 
>difference is in the
>electronics.  More a difference between a B53A and a B52G.  Unfortunately 
>the LX development
>was frozen around the E upgrade.
>
>At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
>>
>>
>> > I think you missed my point.  William said that the use of
>>mixed
>> > electronics and mechanicals in the
>> > shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for
>>the LX's
>> > supposed un-reliability.  I pointed
>> > out that Nikon would probably not have used a similar setup if
>>that was
>> > true.  (I kind of like the FM3 by the way).
>>
>>Actually, I called it a bastard marriage. For the most part, the
>>exposure system of the LX seems pretty reliable, keeping in mind
>>that the heart of it is prone to rusting away.
>>
>>I don't think comparing the LX to the FM3 is valid, as they are
>>from entirely different eras of manufacturing technology.
>>You are comparing a Sopwith Camel to a Hawker Hurricane.
>> >
>> > I think that the comparison to the
>> > F3 is a bit unfair by the way.  It is much bigger,
>> > almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build
>>in
>> > reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
>> > something wrong.
>>
>>Who are you trying to kid?
>>The Nikon F3HP is:
>>(W x H x D) : approx 148.5 x 101.5 x 69 mm. Body weight: Nikon
>>F3HP: 760g approx.
>>
>>The 6x7 with the meter prism attached is:
>>(W x H x D) 177 x 208 x 91mm, and weighs 2270g approx.
>>
>>The comparison is between top of the line cameras that are
>>contemporaneous to each other from competing companies. It is a
>>perfectly valid comparison.
>>If making it bigger makes it more reliable, Pentax had the
>>option of doing it with the LX, and the 6x7 would be their most
>>reliable camera body.
>>
>>I do expect that if the 6x7 is in fact a less reliable camera,
>>it is because it is actually used by pro photographers, and is
>>subject to more wear and tear.
>>I don't believe that statement for a minute, and no proof was
>>given to back it up.
>> From my own experience, the 6x7 is a very reliable product. I
>>have known 4 of them that were used day to day by pro
>>photographers, and they were all as reliable as a one piece
>>hammer.
>>My own 6x7 has been in the shop twice, once to cure T-Maxitus,
>>which I don't hold against the camera, and once to repair a PC
>>terminal that I broke right off the body.
>>
>>William Robb
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Vs: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Raimo Korhonen

IMHO the plain ME is very reliable.
All the best!
Raimo
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-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 03. elokuuta 2002 13:46
Aihe: Re: Subject: LX repair update


>Alan wrote:
>
>
>> But that doesn't explan why some bodies have received much more complains 
>> than others.
>
>It certainly does. The Pentax ME bodies that "receive more complaints than others" 
>are put out of circulation into a closed or into the garbage. Thats why you don't 
>hear much about them.  
>
>
>>My sister's lecturer (engineer) once said, "No matter how reliable 
>> certain products are in general, if yours was a lemon, you would never have 
>> the same faith on that brand anymore." This is especially true when you 
>> bought their top of the line products, just turned out to be a nightmare to 
>> fix. It's not just money, but endless frustration.
>
>
>I've yet to hear about a single LX body that qualifies as a lemon. No reports of 
>constantly breaking NEW LX  bodies has surfaced. THAT would qualify as a lemon. The 
>LX that are reported as lemons are 15-20 years old, most of them bought used with an 
>unknown history. When a camera needs service after 15-20 years of use it certainly 
>have done its intended job. If camera need repeated service then its the service 
>people that doesn't do a good enough job. 
>
>
>Pål
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Familie Scheffler

using IE 6.0.26:
(only mentioning what does not work)

cannot open Black&white
cannot open colour & landscapes

missing thumbnails of
6783
6774
6885
6926

little red horse is running

--
...
Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the 
page below and let me know what is happening 
please.

Thanks 
Dave
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling

Well at least I got a rise out of you.  Yes I know I overstated the case and
when I described the F3 as being as big as a 67.  I kept away from any numbers
because well it's impression that seems to be counting here and my 
impression of
the F3 is that it's huge.

I have to take exception to the airplane analogy.  The apex of mechanical 
camera
design camera design was in the mid to late 1980's  I doubt that there is 
much different
in the FE3 mechanically from a medium duty Nikon of that era.  The 
difference is in the
electronics.  More a difference between a B53A and a B52G.  Unfortunately 
the LX development
was frozen around the E upgrade.

At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
>
>
> > I think you missed my point.  William said that the use of
>mixed
> > electronics and mechanicals in the
> > shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for
>the LX's
> > supposed un-reliability.  I pointed
> > out that Nikon would probably not have used a similar setup if
>that was
> > true.  (I kind of like the FM3 by the way).
>
>Actually, I called it a bastard marriage. For the most part, the
>exposure system of the LX seems pretty reliable, keeping in mind
>that the heart of it is prone to rusting away.
>
>I don't think comparing the LX to the FM3 is valid, as they are
>from entirely different eras of manufacturing technology.
>You are comparing a Sopwith Camel to a Hawker Hurricane.
> >
> > I think that the comparison to the
> > F3 is a bit unfair by the way.  It is much bigger,
> > almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build
>in
> > reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
> > something wrong.
>
>Who are you trying to kid?
>The Nikon F3HP is:
>(W x H x D) : approx 148.5 x 101.5 x 69 mm. Body weight: Nikon
>F3HP: 760g approx.
>
>The 6x7 with the meter prism attached is:
>(W x H x D) 177 x 208 x 91mm, and weighs 2270g approx.
>
>The comparison is between top of the line cameras that are
>contemporaneous to each other from competing companies. It is a
>perfectly valid comparison.
>If making it bigger makes it more reliable, Pentax had the
>option of doing it with the LX, and the 6x7 would be their most
>reliable camera body.
>
>I do expect that if the 6x7 is in fact a less reliable camera,
>it is because it is actually used by pro photographers, and is
>subject to more wear and tear.
>I don't believe that statement for a minute, and no proof was
>given to back it up.
> From my own experience, the 6x7 is a very reliable product. I
>have known 4 of them that were used day to day by pro
>photographers, and they were all as reliable as a one piece
>hammer.
>My own 6x7 has been in the shop twice, once to cure T-Maxitus,
>which I don't hold against the camera, and once to repair a PC
>terminal that I broke right off the body.
>
>William Robb
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Re: LX Reliability poll

2002-08-03 Thread William Robb

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From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: LX Reliability poll


> William wrote:
>
> And what exactly are you going to achieve with this?

Do you want to participate?
William Robb
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Re: OT: Windoze 2000 features: End of Rant

2002-08-03 Thread Len Paris

Where would Lindows fit into that lineup?

Len
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Subject: Re: OT: Windoze 2000 features: End of Rant


> That's pretty close to my point:
> you want kick ass graphics -- get an SGI
> you want stability -- get an IBM or DEC (er.. HP Tru64)
> you want to pretend you are a big guy -- get Linux
>
> Too bad Linux is irrelevant for me since there's no Photoshop,
GIMP
> doesn't work with 16bit color and Nikon4000 scanner isn't
supported
> even by VueScan. That's teh single virtue of both Win and Mac:
they
> have just enough software written for them to make them
usable.
>
> Best,
> Mishka.
>
>
> > From: Frits J. Wí²'í¸²ich
> > Subject: Re: OT: Windoze 2000 features: End of Rant
> > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:16:59 -0700
> >
> > -
> >
> > Amusing discussion really, reading this from the stable
system that I
>
> > use. If I can help it I don't use MAC or M$. Just Linux.
> > --
> > Frits J. Wí²'í¸²ich
> > (Sent with Kmail)
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blank fire

2002-08-03 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

Hallo all!

Today I was shooting with my new Ricoh XR-8 Super at a park nearby. 
Altimately the frame counter reached 36. I thought that I may be able to 
squeeze out 2 more at least and went ahead, 38 now. But hey! I can advance 
it further. I was over joyed. Took one more, 39 now. To my surprise, I 
found that I can get one more. I grew suspicious. This is impossible. I 
replaced the lens cap on the lens, adjusted the aperture to minimum 
aperture setting (f/22), adjusted the shutter speed to the fastest and 
depressed the shutter to avoid any multiple exposure if frame no 39 is 
really there and had been exposed. I found that it was possible to 
'advance the film' further and further. I didn't noticed whether the film 
rewind knob is rotating or not. 
Has the film snapped?
Or is it a faulty body?
The next moment, I rushed to the shop from where I purchased it. He 
checked it and said,"probably you have not loaded the film correctly"
"What? What are you saying?"
"Plese let me check."
He inserted the camera in a changing bag and confirmed that he was right. 

Boy, oh boy! I blank fired 40 bullets. :-((
First time in my life. 

Cheers,
Ayash.
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Ayash Kanto Mukherjee

Hi!
It works just fine for. The thumbnails are all there. I use internet 
explorer 5.
- Ayash.



On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, David Brooks wrote:

> Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related 
> pictures to my site recently,and some of the 
> riders are telling me they cannot open the 
> site,or they can open but the link for "more 
> 2002 CE pictures " is not working.
> It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some 
> reseon,the thumbnails are not being 
> displayed.The pictures opo up when you click 
> them though.
> 
> Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the 
> page below and let me know what is happening 
> please.
> 
> Thanks 
> Dave
> http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj
> 
> 
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RE: SMC K 45-125

2002-08-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I havent tried the K version ( even though I have one)
but I have tried the screwmount 45-125. The sharpness
and contrast is superb (rivals primes). Build quality
is excellent too. Cant speak for the bokeh, didnt
use it wide open enuff to see much.
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Woerner
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SMC K 45-125
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am considering purchasing this lens.  What are your thoughts 
> and opinions
> on it: bokeh, versatility, resolution, contrast, build quality, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert
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Re: Subject: LX repair update

2002-08-03 Thread Pentxuser

Excellent points Pal.
vic 

In a message dated 8/3/02 6:51:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

< Early R series cameras can be very unrelibale, but the R7, R8, R6 and R6.2

> are reliable and built like a tank. 



The R8 had plenty of problems that are probably solved by now. If I remember 
correctly, the guy who tested the R8 for Photo.net (or was it elsewhere?) 
switched to Nikon due to it's low reliability. 

I'm sure Leicas are well made. So are Mercedes Benzes, but a Toyota is 
probably more reliable. 



> I dont think any camera in maintenance free, being a mechanical piece of

> machinery things wear and need to be serviced. I would think that an M4 or

> M6 is very reliable camera.



Remember that a Leica rangefinder are hugely simple devices compared to a 
complex camera like the LX. 


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SMC K 45-125

2002-08-03 Thread Robert Woerner

Hi all,

I am considering purchasing this lens.  What are your thoughts and opinions
on it: bokeh, versatility, resolution, contrast, build quality, etc.

Thanks,

Robert
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Re: Mac vs PC = neither is 'better' SHOCK! (was: Re: OT: Windoze 2000 features)

2002-08-03 Thread Pentxuser

What I have a problem with is silly people like you saying such nonsense. 
Your ridiculous post is frankly, a joke. I HAVE used both machines and in my 
opinion Macs are not "superior" machines. Also, I have never had to bring any 
machine of mine to a shop to have it worked on and thinking that PC user's 
need to do this as a matter of course is utterly ridiculous. You're living in 
a dream world.

I won't respond because this can go on forever...
Vic 
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Re: Fixing the pz1p back

2002-08-03 Thread Robert Woerner

Congratulations on a successful repair !

:-)

Robert
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RE: M50/1.4 fungus remedies?

2002-08-03 Thread John Meyer

Hi all,

This has been a useful discussion.  On cleaning an old lense today, I
discovered some fungus.

The now is, how do you pull the lense apart to clean it?

Any tips and pointers appreciated

Cheers

John
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Fixing the pz1p back

2002-08-03 Thread Nick Wright

A few days ago, you'll remember that I asked the list
about how difficult it was to replace the back cover
of the pz1p. Since Pentax does/would not sell a
complete unit, I had to buy just the back cover and
move all the parts from the old back to the new back
(ie- pressure plate, buttons, etc). And I thought I'd
post my thoughts for all else who might need to
perform such an operation.

1. It's really easy. The part is 10usd plus 5usd for
shipping, and there are simply a few screws to remove
and the pressure plate to change everything over.
Unless you damage it, you do not need the 60¢
relacement foam for the film window that they say you
do.

2. Keep track of the screws. This is the hardest
part... those things are ~tiny~!!! The tiny
screwdriver that I used was not magnatized and that
would've been very helpful while putting the screws
back in. Even with my small fingers there simply is
not enough room to hold and drive it.

3. After you get all the parts off the old back but
~before~ you put them in the new make sure to take the
film window out of the old and put it into the new. I
took all the parts off the old and had them all
installed into the new before I realized that I forgot
the film window. The design is such that you cannot
put the film window in while all the rest of the parts
are there. And if you don't want to spend 10 minutes
trying to figure out exactly how to place the window
in the socket, take careful note of it's orientation
whilst removing it.

4. Hinge pins. The top one is easy, this is the spring
loaded one. Unscrew that screw holding it in (keep
your finger on it unless you want to be looking for
it... spring loaded you know) and take it out. The
other one I had to use needle nose Vise-Grip pliars.
It's knurled on part of it's shaft so it's a bugger to
get out.

So there you have it... from a newfound camera
repairman! ;) Not!

Nick Wright
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Peter Alling

I can't even see the link to "More Central East 2002 Pictures" When using 
Netscape Communicator 4.79.
I looked at the html source and It looks to me that your table isn't formed 
correctly.  This may lead to
odd behavior in different browsers.  I did try looking at the page using 
Opera which shows all of the
links.  However Black&White and Color Landscapes do not work, could be that 
your server is case sensitive
if the files linked to are there.   I've seen that html that is incorrect 
will sometimes give more or less
expected results on most browsers then fail to display correctly on 
another.  Tables _have_ to be correct
to work right on most Netscape versions.

At 08:15 AM 8/3/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related
>pictures to my site recently,and some of the
>riders are telling me they cannot open the
>site,or they can open but the link for "more
>2002 CE pictures " is not working.
>It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some
>reseon,the thumbnails are not being
>displayed.The pictures opo up when you click
>them though.
>
>Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the
>page below and let me know what is happening
>please.
>
>Thanks
>Dave
>http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj
>
>
>Pentax User
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Re: RE: Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread David Brooks

Thanks for the reply Lukasz.I am having a 
problem with displaying them.When i transfered 
them to the site viw  the FTP program some were 
renamed with capitols and from.jpg to .JPG. i 
had to keep resending those.I'm working on it 
though.

Dave
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Sent: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 14:59:04 +0200
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Web page check


Works for me (IE 6), but the thumbnails from 
the bottom row are not being
displayed.

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Re: Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread David Brooks

Thanks William and Steve.I'll check with the 
people who are having problems and see if the 
are using NS 4ish.

Dave

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From: "William Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 06:56:10 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT:Web page check


Hi Dave,

Works fine for me with Windows 2000, and Opera 
6.04, Internet Explorer 6.0, and Netscape 
Navigator 6.2.  However, it doesn't come up 
(the links don't even show) 
with Netscape 4.5.  Hope this helps,

William in Utah.

8/3/2002 6:15:44 AM, "David Brooks" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related 
>pictures to my site recently,and some of the 
>riders are telling me they cannot open the 
>site,or they can open but the link for "more 
>2002 CE pictures " is not working.
>It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some 
>reseon,the thumbnails are not being 
>displayed.The pictures opo up when you click 
>them though.
>
>Request is:Can a few of you out there go to 
the 
>page below and let me know what is happening 
>please.
>
>Thanks 
>Dave
>http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj
>
>
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RE: Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk

Works for me (IE 6), but the thumbnails from the bottom row are not being
displayed.

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RE: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread David Chang-Sang

Jeez.. what is this... the PODML (Pick On Dave Mailing List) ?

:-)

I was fine with the blades and the LX, it offered me maneuverability and
such. Also allowed me to get shots like this:
http://www.usefilm.com/showphoto.php?id=19397  :-)

Cheers,
Dave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 12:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TOPDML Piccies


- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: TOPDML Piccies


> Here are a couple of pics from the TOPDML meeting of a couple of weeks
> ago.  The first is a shot of Jeff's Fuji 6x9 "Texas Leica".  Yes, it is
> that big!  Look at it compared to my MX and the pint of beer in the
> background!

Frank, my negative is bigger than your MX.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=921572&size=lg
>
> And here's Dave Chang Sang, trying to figger out his LX 
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=921599&size=lg

I have that same shot of Dave. Looking at it under (Aaron's) 5.5x Pentax
loupe, you can see the tiny hair follicles growing on his bald head (sorry
Dave, the lens doesn't lie).
>
> regards,
> frank
>

Cheers,
Jeff.
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread William Johnson

To be more specific, everything works fine (thumbnails, etc.) except with Netscape 
4.5, where *some* links show up, just not the one you mention along with a few 
others.

William in Utah.

8/3/2002 6:15:44 AM, "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related 
>pictures to my site recently,and some of the 
>riders are telling me they cannot open the 
>site,or they can open but the link for "more 
>2002 CE pictures " is not working.
>It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some 
>reseon,the thumbnails are not being 
>displayed.The pictures opo up when you click 
>them though.
>
>Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the 
>page below and let me know what is happening 
>please.
>
>Thanks 
>Dave
>http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj
>
>
>Pentax User
>Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Re: OT:Web page check

2002-08-03 Thread William Johnson

Hi Dave,

Works fine for me with Windows 2000, and Opera 6.04, Internet Explorer 6.0, and 
Netscape Navigator 6.2.  However, it doesn't come up (the links don't even show) 
with Netscape 4.5.  Hope this helps,

William in Utah.

8/3/2002 6:15:44 AM, "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all.I uploaded some more hores related 
>pictures to my site recently,and some of the 
>riders are telling me they cannot open the 
>site,or they can open but the link for "more 
>2002 CE pictures " is not working.
>It works ok on my machine,other than ,for some 
>reseon,the thumbnails are not being 
>displayed.The pictures opo up when you click 
>them though.
>
>Request is:Can a few of you out there go to the 
>page below and let me know what is happening 
>please.
>
>Thanks 
>Dave
>http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj
>
>
>Pentax User
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RE: TOPDML Piccies

2002-08-03 Thread David Chang-Sang

Ok.. that's it.. 
diet time for this big kahuna :-)

Nice pics Frank :-)

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of frank theriault
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TOPDML Piccies


Here are a couple of pics from the TOPDML meeting of a couple of weeks
ago.  The first is a shot of Jeff's Fuji 6x9 "Texas Leica".  Yes, it is
that big!  Look at it compared to my MX and the pint of beer in the
background!

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=921572&size=lg

And here's Dave Chang Sang, trying to figger out his LX 

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=921599&size=lg

regards,
frank

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