Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 12:54 AM, Brad Dobo wrote: It looks good to me except for the lcd screen. It's going to get very smeary in very short order if that placement is what they go with. Dan Scott Just keep your nose clean ;-) I think that screen will do it for me. Dan Scott
Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
I have a different view here. When I went shopping for my digital P&S, I had the money and choices of Optios to choose. I did the wise thing and thought of my needs and it's usage. That lead me to the 230 2mp. 6mp cameras were out there already, but I chose mine to suit my needs. So with a new Pentax DSLR, some of you will find it suits your needs just fine and will buy it. Some won't like it and won't buy it. Others will buy it no matter what! My choice was excellent, saved money, and I have no near future plans to look at the digital market. In 5 years, ask me again, I may change that. Brad Dobo > >It won't be worthless in 6 months; large numbers of us will have to wait > >quite awhile to save up for new ones, so that should keep the price of > >used ones up for awhile. Besides, I can't see Pentax becoming one of the > >Body of the Month camera makers--I don't know if they have the resources, > >but they certainly don't seem to have the temperament. > > Unfortnately, the digital race has been leading by Canon so far. When the > released the next generation digital SLR (3MB->6MB->10MB), everyone will be > in trouble again. To keep herself in the game, Pentax will have no choice > but to come up with something. > > regards, > Alan Chan > > _ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >
Re: Fw: Trading LX's
I asked about it at the time and they said that the resistors and photocells were still available from Japan! In the US, a throw-away society, the suppliers are not concerned about support of a old product. Bob - Original Message - From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Pentax in the US would not work on the Spotmatics 10 years aga and CRK > >still > >stocks the ASA resistors! > > I was amazed by how many old parts they still have too. :) >
Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
> It looks good to me except for the lcd screen. It's going to get very > smeary in very short order if that placement is what they go with. > > Dan Scott Just keep your nose clean ;-)
RE: how many bodies do you own
(Until my wife dropped it in a stream and rendered the electronic components a bit less reliable) Is she still around Stan? :):):):):):):) Shaun Canning PhD Student Archaeology Department La Trobe University, Bundoora, Australia, 3086. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 0414-967 644 -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:smhalpin@;concentric.net] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 02:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how many bodies do you own Another laggard reply: I have: *ME [black] *ME-Super *Spotmatic *Kiev rf *Leica Z2X *LX *LX LX MZ-S *Yashicamat *Pentax 645 Pentax 645 I may be missing one or two... The * indicates the ones I would sell or trade. So I have 12 cameras, of which I would hold onto one LX, one 645, and the MZ-S. I am seriously thinking of the new Pentax digital (430) as the camera to fill the P&S ecological niche once occupied by my several Minoxen, then by the Leica Z2X (until my wife dropped it in a stream and rendered the electronic components a bit less reliable). Stan on 10/18/02 2:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have 13 SLRs (myself, there are anther 5 in the house not belonging to > me) at the moment. > 4 MX, 1LX, 1KX, 2 MZ-S, 1 Spotmatic, 1 OM1-n, 1 Super Program, 1 MG, 1 ME > Because I don't like the number 13, I am selling 4 of them. > I think for me, a safe number would be 3 > The MX, LX and MZ-S > --- > Wendy Beard > Mosaid Technologies Inc > 11 Hines Rd, Kanata, > Ontario K2K 2X1, Canada > Tel: +1 613 599 9539 x1676 > Fax +1 613 591 8148 > > > > ?ukasz Kacperczyk > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "pentax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: how many bodies do you own > > > Hi all, > I'm just curious how many 35mm slr (or maybe not necessarily slr) you own. > And what is the lowest number that makes you feel "safe". > > I'm not sure if it's really that interesting for anyone else, but hey - *I* > want to know, so I figured I would ask anyway :) > > Regards, > ?ukasz > > > > > > >
Re: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
Hey Glen, Well, it was a question I have always wanted to ask, yet never did. I did this for curiosity sake. I own the MHZ-5n and the MZ-S, and have the AF330FTZ and the AF360FGZ flashes. I really am not in the market for one now, but like I said I was curious, because when I started photography, I used a borrowed A3000 and a small flash unit. The flash unit was broken on the base, so would not sit properly. I bought a half-decent Vivitar flash, but cannot remember the model. So my primary interest was if anyone fried their cameras circuits using another brand flash, since I keep getting told to never use anything but your cameras brand. Regards, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D > Brad, > > May I make a suggestion. Send a note to the PDML stating the camera on which > you wish to use the OEM flash and ask if anyone owning that model uses > other-than-Pentax flashes and what their experiences are. You may find that > some of the members here have the same camera and are using flashes other > than Pentax on them. Or perhaps both and can compare for you. > > Glen O'Neal > > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > > > I have a stupid question. :-) Ever since beginning photography, flash has > > been the most troublesome tool. However, what I'd like to know, is how > safe > > is it to use other flashes on a Pentax camera? The Pentax literature > > doesn't suggest it and warns against major malfunction and nuclear > meltdown. > > :-). Even some in the store tell me to go with Pentax, even when I'm > > looking at an expensive Metz. Has anyone here had any trouble, or ever > > heard of someone having trouble? > > > > Regards, > > > > Brad Dobo > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:22 PM > > Subject: RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D > > > > > > > The Sunpack site (www.tocad.com) doesn't have the specs for the flash's > > coverage. I doubt that it goes wider than 28mm, if it even goes that far. > I > > would suggest using Stofen Omnibounce to spread the light around. > > > > > > BR > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Pat [mailto:gldnbearz2@;yahoo.com] > > > > > > Hey gang- > > > > > > Hope this gets through... a whiles back, there was a > > > discussion of flashes that could be used on the ZX-5n. > > > One of the William's and Dick Graham both suggested > > > the Sunpak 444D. > > > > > > My question now is has anyone used it w/ a wide angle > > > lens, say a 20-35 zoom, and what were the results, > > > especially between 20-28mm? > > > > > > > >
Re: Travel Kit
But Fred, the FA100/2.8 macro has quite nice bokeh: True. Its problem is its weight. Also true. Btw, although I do not have one, I think the Tamron 90/2.8 macro has lovely bokeh, too. Sigma and Tokina's macro's do not have particularly nice bokeh from what I've seen. The Tamron 90 is a highly regarded lens by the Japanese. regards, Alan Chan _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Travel Kit
...and most macros don't have as nice bokeh as do "regular" primes. My FA100/2.8 seems ok. regards, Alan Chan _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Fw: Trading LX's
Pentax in the US would not work on the Spotmatics 10 years aga and CRK still stocks the ASA resistors! I was amazed by how many old parts they still have too. :) regards, Alan Chan _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
It won't be worthless in 6 months; large numbers of us will have to wait quite awhile to save up for new ones, so that should keep the price of used ones up for awhile. Besides, I can't see Pentax becoming one of the Body of the Month camera makers--I don't know if they have the resources, but they certainly don't seem to have the temperament. Unfortnately, the digital race has been leading by Canon so far. When the released the next generation digital SLR (3MB->6MB->10MB), everyone will be in trouble again. To keep herself in the game, Pentax will have no choice but to come up with something. regards, Alan Chan _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
RE: Fw: Trading LX's
But in my case, parts were not the problem. My MX jammed and they charged me AUD180 for it. That guy rapid fire my MX when I picked it up and it was ok. When I walked out of the door, it jammed again. The 2nd time I was back for the same reason, he said I must did something to it and gave me a rather unfriendly look (was he ever?). Twice he spent less than 5mins to free the jammed mechanism. So, 5mins x 3 = AU180? The case was gone unsolved. Very unhappy. Another incidence was he stripped down mt MDA and didn't assemble it properly. The MDA was left there for many days and he did nothing until I had to visit them again. Parts were missing and wires were not soldered properly. I had to go upstairs and purchased the parts myself. And by the time I was waiting for him to assemble the MDA, he spent most of his time chating with his fellow and kept me waiting. Perhaps it was just me, but that old fellow was never been friendly or willing to help me out as I could see. A waste of time as far as I concerned. If I were still living in Australia, my Pentax might be sold long ago. My Nikon equipments were much better supported there. regards, Alan Chan Jeez Alan, I think we've all been down this little road before too. C.R Kennedy's are excellent as far as I am concerned, and I have never had reason to complain. I also have had cameras they could not fix, but that was because parts were no longer available. They are only an agent, not the manufacturer. A couple of the service technicians at CRK were shipped off to Japan many moons ago to learn how to do LX's properly, so that is why I am happy to recommend them. I think you will find others (i.e. Rob Studdert) equally happy to recommend CRK for what I originally commented on. _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Film to check a lens
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 02:48 PM, Dan Scott wrote: It's quite serviceable. My sample of the A50/2 gives more of a "plastic on plastic" feeling than does the A50/1.7, which feels silky (but not as nice an M series). Optically, I think A 50mm series, /2, /1.7, /1.4, is likevanilla ice milk, vanilla ice cream, French Vanilla ice cream. Hmm, my eyes don't seem to be my dominate sense today. How much does it cost to send a lens sized package to Canada? Dan Scott My stupid computer sent this where I told it to instead of where I thought I told it to. Dan Scott
Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 12:07 AM, Alan Chan wrote: I personally still have doubts on their claim, as Paal and Cotty have both said that the new D-SLR will be based on a new SLR design. Any comments? It would be logical to borrow the design from other MZ/ZX bodies (like MZ-L) to minimize the manufacturing cost imho. Why would anyone want to pay the extra on a high quality metal body when it's going to be worthless in 6 months? regards, Alan Chan Alan, It won't be worthless in 6 months; large numbers of us will have to wait quite awhile to save up for new ones, so that should keep the price of used ones up for awhile. Besides, I can't see Pentax becoming one of the Body of the Month camera makers--I don't know if they have the resources, but they certainly don't seem to have the temperament. Dan Scott
Re: Exclusive picture of "new" Pentax D-SLR
Iren & Henry Chu wrote: Dear all, The Taiwanese photography website Photosharp released a number of the pictures of the "new" Pentax D-SLR which they obtained from Pentax: http://www.photosharp.com.tw http://www.photosharp.com.tw/what'snew.htm Those look exactly like the MZ-D pictures at DPreview. R
Re: 6x7 lenses question
- Original Message - From: Thibault GROUAS Subject: 6x7 lenses question > Hello list, > > I may be interested in purchasing a 6x7 with two lenses: > > 6x7 SMC Takumar 75/4.5 > 6x7 SMC Takumar 200/4 > > I have little knowledge about pentax MF lenses optical qualities amongst > each other. > > I would like to know if these lenses were among the good ones for pentax MF > or if they were to avoid, especially compared with other wide angle lenses > (for the 75) and with other portrait lenses (for the 200). I've heard some > good things about the 150 and 165, but nothing about the 200. Well, you have chosen the two weakest lenses in the 6x7 lineup. The 75mm Tak is sharp enough, and fairly contrasty. but has some real flare problems. Use it with caution in situations where flare may be a problem. The 200 is just not an exciting lens. It isn't especially sharp, nor does it have great contrast or bokeh. It isn't a bad lens, it just isn't a really good lens. I have done some very nice portraiture with the 200mm f/4 Tak though. I've never used the 150mm, but I have the 165mm f/4 and it is exceptional. I have heard that the newer SMC Pentax versions of both these optics are vast improvements over the Takumars. William Robb
RE: Matjaz & Roman PDML-ers
Flavio, I was actually talking to my cousin and mother this afternoon about my vacation next year. I have a friend whose family is from Italy (south). I have thought of going with him to immerse myself in the culture for a week and then spend a week elsewhere in Italy. Originally I thought of Firenze, maybe Roma can be added. I have enjoyed every get together with people from this list. I still have to comment on the get-togethers from this trip. Always carrying an LX, maybe an MZ-S, Cesar Panama City, Florida in NYC for the weekend -- -Original Message- -- From: Flavio Minelli [mailto:f.minelli@;tin.it] -- Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:21 AM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Subject: Re: Matjaz & Roman PDML-ers -- -- -- Well, luckily we left some still to be uncorked or -- completely drained. -- I can get home almost in a straight line from Fabio's but -- chances would -- have been that I'd invented a bend or two in the process... -- -- The nicest thing is the sense of closeness and understanding you have -- with people you're never actually met before. -- -- If anybody wants to call up on us, please do it, I like these welcome -- parties...hic! Not to mention I had some time to fondle Matjasz MZ-s. -- -- Ciao, Flavio --
RE: Tropics
Shaun, My experience is only a couple of weeks at a time in the tropics (jungle) visiting family or working at an archaeology site. I always cart the LXen with me. The only problem I have ever had was humidity getting to the hotshoe. It would work well inside (no air conditioning) but was intermittent outside. And it was just one LX that did that. The LX never hiccuped. And this includes shooting in the rain, which I have done again and again since then. I like the LX since it can work mechanically at most speeds. I also live close to the water. Anything left outside will get rusty or show the effects of moisture. I do not store my lenses in any special cases or in an air conditioned environment. Just a little note. I don´t know if any of this will help you. I would not go out of my way to take measures to keep everything in a dry environment. Just my thoughts, César Panama City, Florida in NYC -- -Original Message- -- From: Shaun Canning [mailto:s.canning@;latrobe.edu.au] -- Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:19 PM -- To: Pentax-Discuss -- Subject: Tropics -- -- -- Early next year I am going to be spending about 2 months in -- the wet tropics -- area of Far North Queensland working with an Aboriginal -- community group. It -- will be the middle of the wet season. I am wondering if -- anyone has had -- camera experience in very humid (i.e. bloody wet) and very -- hot conditions. -- The area I will be in gets about 8.5 metres of rain per -- annum. (Yep, 340 -- inches or thereabouts). I am planning on taking my LX and a -- full kit of -- lenses, in a Doskocil (same as Pelican or Domke) waterproof -- case and Lowepro -- Photo trekker. Naturally I will be taking tripod, flash, -- filters, and all -- the usual s*&t. Luckily, I will have my own car, so -- transporting all this -- stuff is not a problem. I may have a z-1p by then to take (I -- just sold my -- z-1), but I worry about electronics and water a lot. -- Particularly when -- sudden cloudbursts are 'de rigueur'. -- -- My main queries are related too moisture, fungus, rust and -- film. Does anyone -- have any specific experience with photography under similar -- conditions? I am -- concerned about fungus growth, and rust particularly -- (although most camera -- parts are alloy or stainless steel). What about film? Any -- specific problems -- (heat is not as bad on film as people think either). Fungus growth on -- lenses? Do the little bags of silica desiccant help? -- -- Thanks Folks -- -- Shaun Canning -- PhD Student -- Archaeology Department -- La Trobe University, Bundoora, -- Australia, 3086. -- -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Phone: 0414-967 644 -- --
6x7 lenses question
Hello list, I may be interested in purchasing a 6x7 with two lenses: 6x7 SMC Takumar 75/4.5 6x7 SMC Takumar 200/4 I have little knowledge about pentax MF lenses optical qualities amongst each other. I would like to know if these lenses were among the good ones for pentax MF or if they were to avoid, especially compared with other wide angle lenses (for the 75) and with other portrait lenses (for the 200). I've heard some good things about the 150 and 165, but nothing about the 200. Thanks a lot, ___ |Thibault Grouas| | http://photofr.ath.cx | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I___I
Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction
In case anyone wants to gripe to ebay about this. http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetRNSWebFormShow&; flag1=0&flag2=3&flag3=6&rcode=52010383100&subjecttier1=Questionable+Cont ent+on+eBay&subjecttier2=Potentially+Infringing+Issues+%28including+counterf eits+&Query=Use+of+images%2C+text+or+links+without+proper+permission - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:12 AM Subject: Re: Boz's photo on eBay auction > A real dope, he couldn't even bother to steal the right picture! > (Shows Boz's 35mm f2, but notes he is selling a 50mm f2. > Regards, Bob S. > > In a message dated 10/25/02 1:22:07 AM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Here we go again... at least they kept the copyright symbol. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1391556972>> > >
Re: Travel Kit
> I would also have a non-macro 100mm or 85mm as well as, or instead > of, the macro because macro lenses take a long time to turn > through the full focus range. ...and most macros don't have as nice bokeh as do "regular" primes. Fred
Re: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
I have a stupid question. :-) Ever since beginning photography, flash has been the most troublesome tool. However, what I'd like to know, is how safe is it to use other flashes on a Pentax camera? The Pentax literature doesn't suggest it and warns against major malfunction and nuclear meltdown. :-). Even some in the store tell me to go with Pentax, even when I'm looking at an expensive Metz. Has anyone here had any trouble, or ever heard of someone having trouble? Regards, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D > The Sunpack site (www.tocad.com) doesn't have the specs for the flash's coverage. I doubt that it goes wider than 28mm, if it even goes that far. I would suggest using Stofen Omnibounce to spread the light around. > > BR > > -Original Message- > From: Pat [mailto:gldnbearz2@;yahoo.com] > > Hey gang- > > Hope this gets through... a whiles back, there was a > discussion of flashes that could be used on the ZX-5n. > One of the William's and Dick Graham both suggested > the Sunpak 444D. > > My question now is has anyone used it w/ a wide angle > lens, say a 20-35 zoom, and what were the results, > especially between 20-28mm? >
RE: Re[2]: Film to check a lens
On 25 Oct 2002 at 21:10, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: > This is why I said slide film. You used print film, and it sounds like you > looked at prints, which can lead to all sorts of problems. The point of using > slide film is to look at the film itself, and I find that easier with slides. > The biggest problem is getting viewing the film with high enough magnification > do draw good conclusions. Once I started using a 30x, stereo microscope it > became much easier to see what a lens could do. I agree, this is the only way to really see differences, I too bought a 20/40x binocular microscope (old school type), using an instrument like this reveals far more than an 8x loupe. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
The Sunpack site (www.tocad.com) doesn't have the specs for the flash's coverage. I doubt that it goes wider than 28mm, if it even goes that far. I would suggest using Stofen Omnibounce to spread the light around. BR -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:gldnbearz2@;yahoo.com] Hey gang- Hope this gets through... a whiles back, there was a discussion of flashes that could be used on the ZX-5n. One of the William's and Dick Graham both suggested the Sunpak 444D. My question now is has anyone used it w/ a wide angle lens, say a 20-35 zoom, and what were the results, especially between 20-28mm?
Re: PDML UK Camden Lock - pictures up
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PDML UK Camden Lock - pictures up > Wheatfield: "Photoshop is a cheap and dirty way of cleaning up what should have > been done properly by the photographer behind the viewfinder in the first > place." > > Instantly the thread breaks into 35 OT threads about such things as Photoshop > vs. dodge and burn, negatives are real and digital isn't, admissability of negs > versus digital in a court of law, some sort of phenomenological versus > post-modernist "can we really trust our senses and how can we observe the world > without that very observation changing what we observe?" discussion, when and > what kind of violence can we jokingly refer to without offending some, etc. > etc. Oh yeah, and Norm Baugher said, "I think my fridge light stays on when I > close the door". I must say, that one did me proud. William Robb
RE: Re[2]: Film to check a lens
This is why I said slide film. You used print film, and it sounds like you looked at prints, which can lead to all sorts of problems. The point of using slide film is to look at the film itself, and I find that easier with slides. The biggest problem is getting viewing the film with high enough magnification do draw good conclusions. Once I started using a 30x, stereo microscope it became much easier to see what a lens could do. BR -Original Message- From: Alin Flaider [mailto:AlinFlaider@;xnet.ro] Bruce wrote: RBMB> ... I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. I wouldn't agree entirely. I recently used Reala 100 to take a series of test shots for my newly acquired SMC 135/2.5. Later I compared the enlargements to those made from a Fuji HG 100 - a very cheap, high contrast film, targeted for p&s crowd, Servus, Alin
Pics from PC-550
As promised pictures from my little girls $20 Pentax PC-550. home.earthlink.net/~enhanson/pc550.html Poor scans are my fault I rushed I'll probably make her a page all her own soon and rescan the photos.
Re: PDML UK Camden Lock - pictures up
Hey, Stan, Save yourself the trouble of going through all 2000+ posts. Here's a synopsis: Issue #1: Someone said: "I bet the Pentax people read this list sometimes" Brad said: "Hey Pentax, where's our (insert bad word) DSLR! Someone else said: "Hey Brad, don't swear!" Brad said" "I'm sorry." A different someone else said: "Hey Brad, I'm offended by your swearing." Brad said: "I already said I'm sorry." Another person said: "Brad, you shouldn't swear." A week long flame war breaks out, that even went as far as someone setting up a new e-mail account under Brad's name, attributing posts to him that weren't his. The whole thing was unseemly in the extreme... Issue #2: Chaso: "There's this exhibit in Texas by a guy using Medium Format, and he used Photoshop to clean up his images" Wheatfield: "Photoshop is a cheap and dirty way of cleaning up what should have been done properly by the photographer behind the viewfinder in the first place." Instantly the thread breaks into 35 OT threads about such things as Photoshop vs. dodge and burn, negatives are real and digital isn't, admissability of negs versus digital in a court of law, some sort of phenomenological versus post-modernist "can we really trust our senses and how can we observe the world without that very observation changing what we observe?" discussion, when and what kind of violence can we jokingly refer to without offending some, etc. etc. Oh yeah, and Norm Baugher said, "I think my fridge light stays on when I close the door". Please note that I'm paraphrasing liberally (despite the quotation marks), and, I my tongue is planted firmly in my cheek right now, so ~please~ no one be offended - this is an attempt at humour (gotta cover all the bases with this post ). So Stan, delete all those messages, and get some sleep. Sounds like you need it. Glad you had a good trip! regards, frank Stan Halpin wrote: > Cotty - thanks for the photos and the fine story telling. I am just back > home this evening and am faced with 2000+ messages on PDML (mostly some fuss > about brad doughboy and/or about the dslr). Am off again for most off this > week, it will be sometime before I can get my photos from Camden Lock > developed, printed, scanned . . . > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re: PDML UK Camden Lock - pictures up
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Re: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Currently 35mm, but I may start colour MF photography with my Salyut-S and RicohFlex. James< 35mm on a flatbed with a transparency adapter is pretty marginal, even for web work. you will have to try and see if it is acceptable. Herb...
Re: Travel Kit
On 25 Oct 2002 at 20:26, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Pretentious nonsense. For the majority of situations, these lenses are > fast enough. Most of us can't afford ultra-fast glass. In any case, how > often does one shoot in extremely low light with a 200? And the SMC > 200/4 is an excellent lens. When shooting with the 28, a shutter speed > of 1/15 or 1/30 is quite manageable. And that's easy to achieve at 3.5 > with most films and lighting conditions. No, they're not premium lenses, > but they'll take fine pictures. I wouldn't want to be limited to a slow 28 in my travel kit either. I invariably take my 28/2 or 31/1.8 and I'll use both wide open without hesitation. I generally would have a lens longer than 135mm in my normal travel kit unless I was targetting specific subject matter. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Travel Kit
In reference to a travel kit that includes: > > 28mm f/3.5 > > 50mm f/1.4 > > 105mm f/2.8 macro > > 200mm f/4 Bob Walkden wrote: > > The primes other than the 50 are too slow, although the focal lengths aregood. Pretentious nonsense. For the majority of situations, these lenses are fast enough. Most of us can't afford ultra-fast glass. In any case, how often does one shoot in extremely low light with a 200? And the SMC 200/4 is an excellent lens. When shooting with the 28, a shutter speed of 1/15 or 1/30 is quite manageable. And that's easy to achieve at 3.5 with most films and lighting conditions. No, they're not premium lenses, but they'll take fine pictures. Hell, I've even shot in the dead of night with my M 200/4. See http://www.portfolios.com/zoom.wga?User_number=stenquist&imagecount=15 They're not as fast as the big money, big glass. But they're not "too slow."
ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
Hey gang- Hope this gets through... a whiles back, there was a discussion of flashes that could be used on the ZX-5n. One of the William's and Dick Graham both suggested the Sunpak 444D. My question now is has anyone used it w/ a wide angle lens, say a 20-35 zoom, and what were the results, especially between 20-28mm? Thanks and have a good weekend, Pat in SF __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Currently 35mm, but I may start colour MF photography with my Salyut-S and RicohFlex. James - Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Are these any good? Considering I will mostly scan my negs or slides > initially > highest res possible, and PhotoShop them for the web. > James< > > what film format? > > Herb > >
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
I did that in my very first post on the subject. You followed that post with a post that suggested the possibility of there being incompatibilities. I don't know if this was done with the desire to wave a red herring around, or simple ignorance. BR -Original Message- From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] Do you suppose it would have been possible to simply state that right off without the snide remarks? Len ---
645 focussing screens
I'm considering installing a AG-80 AF Cross-Lined Matte screen in my 645n. This is the one with the grid. - Has anyone changed a screen in a 645n? How hard is it? - Am I going to freak out? I've used standard screens all my photographic life. - I'm considering it because I'd like to frame panoramic images (I played with an Xpan today). Does this sound reasonable? The manual also lists a AF Sprit-Image Matte screen. I'm assuming they mean Split-Image. Thanks. tv
Re: PDML UK Camden Lock - pictures up
Cotty - thanks for the photos and the fine story telling. I am just back home this evening and am faced with 2000+ messages on PDML (mostly some fuss about brad doughboy and/or about the dslr). Am off again for most off this week, it will be sometime before I can get my photos from Camden Lock developed, printed, scanned . . . BTW, one small correction: you said 645NII. I wish! I have a basic 645. As for the hayseed comment, I have slung (slang? have slanged? I am not actually sure of the past participle of 'sling') many a hay bale in my youth, from which activity one gets a certain residue of seeds and other detritus in one's hair, etc. So, the 'hayseed' designation is about right. No offense taken! Its been 23 hours since I got up this morning in Sevenoaks - I don't think I'll finish reading the remaining 1500+ PDML messages right now. Stan x on 10/12/02 16:43, Cotty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, Bob Walkden, Stan Halpin and myself managed a few hours in London > this afternoon at Camden Lock Market on the Regent's Canal. We met up in > Starbuck's for a coffee and chat and in no time at all I managed to > insult the family lineage of our American colleague by mentioning that I > had friends and relatives in upstate New York. > > "Oh really? Where?" inquired Stan. > > "Oh, miles from anywhere. You know, real hayseed country. Syracuse. Where > are you from, Stan?" > > "Syracuse". > > Ahem. Wheatfield Willie, meet Hayseed Halpin ;-) ... > > *Anyway* before I dig any more holes to plant my butt in, here's a few > pics: > > http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/photoessays/photoessaysmain.html > > click on 'Camden...' > > Cheers, > > Cotty > >
Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
On 25 Oct 2002 at 11:36, Feroze Kistan wrote: > That is one of the funniest I have ever heard > feroze > > - Original Message - > Treena Harp wrote in part. > > > > And, here's one of my dear, departed dad's: He/She's so stupid, you could > > throw'em in the creek (prounced crik) and skim stupid for three weeks. I must be thick as two short planks 'cause I don't get it :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
FS New LX SE-60W screens
Hi Team, I have some spare LX SE-60W full matt screens for sale @ US$25.00 including shipping via EconomyAir world wide. There is one stipulation only and that is that the payment must be made in US banknotes. Please reply to me privately. Details can be seen at: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1391571037 Cheers, Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio) PO Box 701 HURSTVILLE BC NSW 1481 AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check my current eBay auctions: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/ebay/
Re: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Are these any good? Considering I will mostly scan my negs or slides initially highest res possible, and PhotoShop them for the web. James< what film format? Herb
FS Pentax
I have the following I am interested in trading/selling. I am looking for a Canon T90 and FD lenses. LX with FA-1 finder - Was sent to Pentax @ CO less than a year ago and since has less than 5 rolls of film run thru it. LX Motor Wind - Was sent (within the year) to Pentax @CO for repair/CLA Battery Grip M NiCad battery (and charger) Recently rebuild by a local photo shop M 28/2.8 M50/1.4 K85/1.8 M 135/3.5 ME Super K1000 KX (View of the F stop has been permenantly blocked. I am interested in selling only within US. I would rather trade for an item of like value. Please contact off group Dave Strattton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Doskocil Case
> Preferably non-gassing foam so you don't end up with haze inside your lenses. > I'll look through my contact db since I think I bought inserts for the case > that Paul bought off me? The insert was new in the case i bought from you. I think Doskocil gear and stopped being imported to australia, as i saw shop clearing out the last if importers inventory of stock. Regards, Paul
Re: Re: I'm Back
I didnt realise you were so young :) Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: David Brooks Sent: 10/25/2002 5:54:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I'm Back > Welcome back Paul.The picture i sent of myself was > in haste,just to get one on before you left.I now > have time to do a better one. :) > > Dave > > Begin Original Message > > From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:18:50 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: I'm Back > > > Hi, > > I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and looking through > the emails i'm glad i missed a lot of it! > > I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as my old ones were > getting spammed to much and the pdml doesn't like hotmail accounts. > > I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i maintain in the next week > or so, so for everyone who's sent me pictures, URLs or notifications > of errors will have to wait a little longer. > > Regards, > Paul > > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail >
Re: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Bruce, You are correct, I happened to visit Future Shop an hour ago and was looking at Epson, HP and Lexmark scanners and a number of them were USB/Parallel Port transparency/photo scanners. The HP ScanJet 3570C (USB)(35mm) was on sale @ $229.99, Epson Perfection 1660 (USB)(35mm/MF) @ $289.99. They also had a special on the HP ScanJet 4470 USB/Par (Open Box) @ $119.96. Are these any good? Considering I will mostly scan my negs or slides initially highest res possible, and PhotoShop them for the web. James - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? > Ken, > > You must be confused. The scanners in question (Epson 2450 & > replacement) actually scan film. They have a built in light source in > the lid and holders for the negatives/chromes. The drivers and > scanning software deal with what type of source material you are using > (paper, negative, transparency). The nice thing about them is they > can scan up to a 4X5 piece of film. They don't have the resolution or > dmax of a nikon 8000, but they don't have a price tag of that either. > The only choice for MF shooters is this at about 200-300 USD or a film > scanner at about 2000-3000 USD. That is 10 times the price. I have > tried two units. The first I was not satisfied with it's sharpness. I > returned it. Later, reading on the web indicated that some of the > earlier units had a QC issue where the focus point was not consistent > and you could get less sharp scans (that's what I found). They seemed > to have fixed that, so I ordered another and have been happy with it. > > My suggestion to Paal is to buy one from a place that he can return > it, if he finds that it doesn't meet his needs. The alternative is > very expensive. > > HTH, > > > Bruce > > > > Friday, October 25, 2002, 6:13:45 AM, you wrote: > > KW> I'm told the best quality scan is achieved with a film scanner. Scanning a > KW> print will not produce an equal quality scan, all other things being equal. > KW> Not good news if your trying to obtain optimum scan quality for medium > KW> format images on a limited budget. I've used a N Cool Scan 4000 ED film > KW> & slide scanner and am very happy with the output, but this is a 35mm format > KW> scanner. The N Super Coolscan 8000 is a medium format film scanner but > KW> its cost is significantly higher than the 4000. > > KW> Ken Waller > > KW> - Original Message - > KW> From: Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > KW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > KW> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:06 PM > KW> Subject: Re: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? > > > >> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Thanks for the replies so far. I've settled on an Epson 2100. With this > >> printer, if the advertising is to be believed, I can start producing and > >> perhaps selling home made, gallery quality fine prints. However, this > KW> leads > >> to another question. Will a scanner like the new Epson GT-9800F produce > >> scans good enough to take advantage of the 2100 printer? Or do I need a > >> dedicated film scanner? > >> > >> Pål< > >> > >> unless you shoot medium format, that scanner will be barely adequate at > >> best. > >> > >> Herb > >> > >> >
Re: Re: I'm Back
Hi Albano, I've setup email accounts on my domain and i now had 30meg storage per email account :) Thanks for the tip though. paul - Original Message - From: Albano Garcia Sent: 10/24/2002 11:42:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I'm Back > I suggest Yahoo mail. Twice the mailbox space (4 mb > against 2 mb) and a one percent of the spam. > I really don't know what people sees in hotmail. IT > SUCKS! > > Albano "Yahoo" Garcia > > --- Leonard Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > > > I'm using a Hotmail account and seem to be having no > > problems. You just > > have to be sure to go into Hotmail's Options and > > enter "pentax-discuss" into > > the mailing lists box. > > > > Len > > --- > > > > >From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: I'm Back > > >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:18:50 -0600 > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and > > looking through the > > >emails i'm glad i missed a lot of it! > > > > > >I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as > > my old ones were > > >getting spammed to much and the pdml doesn't like > > hotmail accounts. > > > > > >I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i > > maintain in the next week or > > >so, so for everyone who's sent me pictures, URLs or > > notifications of errors > > >will have to wait a little longer. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Paul > > > > > > > _ > > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN > > Broadband. > > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > > > = > Albano Garcia > "El Pibe Asahi" > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >
RE: Doskocil Case
Thanks Rob. I'd appreciate it. Shaun Canning PhD Student Archaeology Department La Trobe University, Bundoora, Australia, 3086. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 0414-967 644 -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:audiob@;ozemail.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 12:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Doskocil Case On 25 Oct 2002 at 8:21, William Robb wrote: > Shaun, if you don't mind doing the cutting yourself, all you > need is closed cell foam, which should be available at most any > largish upholstery shop. Preferably non-gassing foam so you don't end up with haze inside your lenses. I'll look through my contact db since I think I bought inserts for the case that Paul bought off me? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Teleconverters for 645?
I see Pentax produced two TCs, the 1.4x Rear Converter A and the 2x Rear Converter A. I've never really researched TCs, so these are also somewhat confusing to me, but am I to assume from reading the Pentax website the 1.4 is only good on the 120/4, 200/4, and 300 due to teh fact that it has an element that sticks out, and that I would need to use the 2x converter on any other lens? My original concept was to form a kit of teh 45/2.8, 75/2.8, and 150/3.5 and then use the 1.4x TC as a fill to flesh out the kit with minimal equipment, but it looks like that's nto going to happen. Is there an aftermarket, and reasonably priced, 1.4x TC for the 645? -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: Film to check a lens
> I recently sold an A50/2, however, I was very happy with it, and > sort of regret selling it.. It was quite sharp, but also small and > light especially when in direct comparision to my A50/1.4. I think that the A 50/2 is a lot of lens for the money that it usually goes for. I think that it show the most improvement over the M version of any of the 50's. See: http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/resolutn.htm Fred
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
Do you suppose it would have been possible to simply state that right off without the snide remarks? Len --- From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: OT: Nikon 50's Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:54:59 -0400 Any Nikon AF 50mm lens ever made will work properly on a N50. BR > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > > And your point is? > > Len > --- _ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re[2]: law and image
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Bob Walkden wrote: > months ago. The recent thread on whether or not to have a FAQ could > profitably be extended to include a FAC - Frequently-Argued Crap. We As the designated FAQ writer, I'll be glad to include this topic as well. :) I realized as I was writing the other other day, slowly mind you, that I hadn't even bothered to make a note of who answered what. I think that makes me a jerk... -- http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.
Re: Photographic Training
Hi, Brad, Nothing to speak of. Back when I was around 14, before I bought my first SLR, I took a 5 or 6 night course at a local camera shop on photography basics. In high school, I was in the camera club. All that was some 30 or more years ago. I think I've learned more from PDML in the last couple of years than I've learned with trial and error over the last 30. regards, frank > --- Brad Dobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some > > formal training in > > regards to photography? Was it a university arts > > degree, or a community > > college course, or something else, like training > > under a professional or > > having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it > > simply many years of > > simple experience and perhaps reading books? > > > > Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) > > you folks are so far > > ahead of me ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Brad Dobo > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
Re[2]: law and image
Hi, I have some personal experience similar to this from a civilian's standpoint. In my other life as an IT person I was at one time in charge of the financial systems at a company I worked for here in England. One of the employees was prosecuted for stealing large amounts of cash. Computer-based accounts were used as evidence, and had to be accompanied by a signed statement that they accurately reflected the state of the business at the time indicated. There is quite a good analogy here between computerised accounts and Bob Cratchet-style ledger books, and digital photos and film. Incidentally, we had quite a long discussion here on this subject some months ago. The recent thread on whether or not to have a FAQ could profitably be extended to include a FAC - Frequently-Argued Crap. We could then adopt a UK parliamtary practice, and write 'I refer the honourable member to our previous correspondence on this subject'. It would have saved me some time dealing with the 505 messages that were awaiting me after a mere 2 days absence from the list. --- Bob Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 8:08:29 PM, you wrote: > My husband is a police investigator, and he has NEVER had to "swear" he > didn't manipulate an image, film OR digital, and that includes photos > generated from scanned negatives. If the officer has not compromised his > credibility previously, such a thing isn't necessary. If he has compromised > his credibility in ANY way, I guarantee you he won't be testifying in a > court of law, period. Judges will simply kick all the cases out with which > that officer is involved if there aren't other credible witnesses whose > testimony can be used. When that happens, that officer won't be employed for > very long. An officer whose testimony won't be accepted in court is useless. > When your credibility in one area is damaged, it calls everything else > you've done into question. > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: law and image >> As I mentioned elsewhere, I think this distinction will become even more >> blurred when it becomes easier to create a film-based image from a >> digital one. as I understand it, even now you need someone to swear >> that the photo was not manipulated, which diminishes its value as >> something closely tied to reality. Even CCTV images are ultimately >> going to depend on someone vouching for their authenticity. >> >> >> Steven Desjardins >> Department of Chemistry >> Washington and Lee University >> Lexington, VA 24450 >> (540) 458-8873 >> FAX: (540) 458-8878 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>
Re: B and W Landscapes in 6x7
Albano, There's some great work in there. I would love to see some of those enlarged! How are you liking your 67? I find the deliberate nature of shooting with it very exhilarating vs. the rat-a-tat-tat of my MZ-S. Brother Bruce Friday, October 25, 2002, 1:32:03 PM, you wrote: AG> Some nice landscapes made with P67 AG> http://www.marioabbatepaolo.com/ AG> Regards AG> Brother Albano AG> = AG> Albano Garcia AG> "El Pibe Asahi" AG> __ AG> Do you Yahoo!? AG> Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site AG> http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Travel Kit
Hi, speaking for myself, I would not bother with the zoom. The primes other than the 50 are too slow, although the focal lengths are good. I would also have a non-macro 100mm or 85mm as well as, or instead of, the macro because macro lenses take a long time to turn through the full focus range. --- Bob Thursday, October 24, 2002, 5:23:06 PM, you wrote: > Would you be happy with the following lenses for a > travel kit? > 4 are primes and 1 is a zoom > 28mm f/3.5 > 50mm f/1.4 > 105mm f/2.8 macro > 200mm f/4 > 45-125mm f/4 > Couple that with 2 bodies. > Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy? > Thanks. > Francis M. Alviar > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com
Re: Fw: Trading LX's
Has to be software, cant virus hardware without a hammer Feroze - Original Message - From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 3:06 AM Subject: RE: Fw: Trading LX's > When Pentax finally releases the Digital Flagship LX, do you think they'll implement the sticky mirror in hardware or software? > > BR > > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb@;accesscomm.ca] > > Which reminds me. LX #3 arrived home today. I took it out of the > box, unwrapped it, removed the body cap, cocked the shutter and > pushed the button. > One of the mechanisms went ping. > And the mirror just sat there. Didn't move at all. > After 10 seconds or so, I actuated the mirror lock and the > shutter cycle completed. > This is not looking good. > > William Robb > >
Re: Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
That is one of the funniest I have ever heard feroze - Original Message - Treena Harp wrote in part. > > And, here's one of my dear, departed dad's: He/She's so stupid, you could > throw'em in the creek (prounced crik) and skim stupid for three weeks.
B and W Landscapes in 6x7
Some nice landscapes made with P67 http://www.marioabbatepaolo.com/ Regards Brother Albano = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: pdml problems again
>The pdml digest is unreliable again and messages are spotty. This seems a >regular occurrence. Digests have never been reliable. The website archive >is continually failing or out of date. Does anyone have this much trouble >on other groups? Does anyone have any suggestions for a better system than >we currently have? I know we all adore and worship Doug, but is everyone >satisfied with how the list is going? I know, I'm a terrible person for >asking any such questions or mentioning any discontentment. Ok, you're not happy about what's happening to the list. I'm not happy either since I can't partipicate. S.. what kind of help did Doug say he could use to get things back on track again? (being at the end of a very lossy PDML pipe thses days, I haven't seen any such postings). later, patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Re: Film to check a lens
I don't recall how much it was to send up a SMC A 70-210 i bought but it was either $5.00 or $10.00. Dave Begin Original Message From: Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How much does it cost to send a lens sized package to Canada? Dan Scott End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Film to check a lens
Thanks Jeff.If we can get together soon,i'll look at it. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:55:12 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Film to check a lens Dave, I have an A50-1.4 & an A50-1.7. I'm willing to sell the 1.7 for $60 CDN. It's in very nice shape. Jeff. - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Film to check a lens > I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only > body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f > 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 > Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something > to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so > would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one > hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper > and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer > to this quiry > > Dave > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Film to check a lens
Dave, I have an A50-1.4 & an A50-1.7. I'm willing to sell the 1.7 for $60 CDN. It's in very nice shape. Jeff. - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Film to check a lens > I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only > body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f > 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 > Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something > to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so > would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one > hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper > and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer > to this quiry > > Dave > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail >
Re: Film to check a lens
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 11:42 AM, David Brooks wrote: I did not aske Dan,but they are in the used section of Pentaxes.They usually have a 10% or so bargining.BTW how do you like the A version.If its nice it will probably go on the SP. Dave It's quite serviceable. My sample of the A50/2 gives more of a "plastic on plastic" feeling than does the A50/1.7, which feels silky (but not as nice an M series). Optically, I think A 50mm series, /2, /1.7, /1.4, is likevanilla ice milk, vanilla ice cream, French Vanilla ice cream. Hmm, my eyes don't seem to be my dominate sense today. How much does it cost to send a lens sized package to Canada? Dan Scott
Vs: Vs: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
And that is the reason I´m glad that it was not you. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 25. lokakuuta 2002 19:13 Aihe: Re: Vs: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff >If it had been, I'd have used Pentax sights. > >--- Raimo Korhonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >> I´m really glad that it was not you after all. >> All the best! >> Raimo >> Personal photography homepage at >> http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho >> >> -Alkuperäinen viesti- >> Lähettäjä: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Päivä: 24. lokakuuta 2002 21:45 >> Aihe: Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great >> stuff >> >> >> >Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it >> >definitely results in murder. >> > >> > >> >--- "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> I would never hurt YOU, but... >> >> >> >> Steve Desjardins wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'm really sorry if we offended you - please >> don't >> >> hurt me . . . . >> >> >> > >> > >> >= >> >Chaso DeChaso >> > >> >> > > >= >Chaso DeChaso > > >"Less is more cheap" - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site >http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >
Re: What's happening with the list?
You're a tough Canadian. You'll survive. Deb in mean ol' TX --- Brad Dobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-( > > Brad Dobo ;p > - Original Message - > From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 AM > Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? > > > > Now thats debateable... > > > > Feroze > > - Original Message - > > From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM > > Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? > > > > > > > Well, isn't that better than getting digests > full of messages from Brad > > > Dobo? ;-) > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: What's happening with the list? > > > > > > > > > > That's because the other messages aren't > 'real'... > > > > Norm > > > > > > > > Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm getting few digests with most of the > messages > > > > > from Chaso DeChaso. > > > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Photographic Training
Ain't got no formal education, boy. Yer lucky I'm literate. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to start no flame wars over Med Format Exhibit in Texas. Actually, I took art classes (nonphotographic) for three years in high school. That really wasn't that long ago. My sister did the photo classes, and I'm telling you, some of her stuff was really good. Photography for me began in earnest at my newspaper job. I did all the arts events and since these were at night, I was usually the only staff person there. So I got the camera. --- Brad Dobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey folks, > > I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some > formal training in > regards to photography? Was it a university arts > degree, or a community > college course, or something else, like training > under a professional or > having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it > simply many years of > simple experience and perhaps reading books? > > Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) > you folks are so far > ahead of me ;-) > > Regards, > > Brad Dobo > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
Any Nikon AF 50mm lens ever made will work properly on a N50. BR > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > > And your point is? > > Len > ---
RE: Photographic Training
Brad, What a humble approach on your part! Personally studying a lot of books on various photographic styles, techniques, and equipment has helped a lot. Working with experienced professionals. Becoming a member of a camera club and PPA. And I am just beginning a correspondence course with the New York Institute of Photography www.nyip.com. Most of all take a lot of pictures and write down exposure, film, conditions, filters used, and any other information that describes what might be recorded on the film. Then sit down with your exposures and your notes and analyze your own work. Ask others with more experience to look them over too. Slide film is so unforgiving that I often use it when experimenting to learn. Glen O'Neal P.S. By the way ... we're all beginners. There is so much to learn . -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo@;rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:13 AM To: PDML (Pentax) Subject: Photographic Training Hey folks, I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community college course, or something else, like training under a professional or having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of simple experience and perhaps reading books? Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) you folks are so far ahead of me ;-) Regards, Brad Dobo
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
And your point is? Len --- From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: OT: Nikon 50's Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:19:59 -0400 But they don't make 50mm G lenses. BR > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: OT: Nikon 50's > > > Well, that's one lens that can create problems, right? I'll > admit that I own > nothing newer in Nikon equipment than an N65 but it was made > a lot later > than 25 years ago. > > Len > _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: OT: My Pentax Image in Outdoor Photographer
Thanks for reminding me. I have used a Rebel G and a Rebel 2000. So, I should revise and say that it does have something to do with the camera. :) --- Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You obviously have never used a Canon :-) > Norm > > Debra Wilborn wrote: > > >It just goes to show (again) that it's not > >the camera, but the person behind it. > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Vs: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
If it had been, I'd have used Pentax sights. --- Raimo Korhonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I´m really glad that it was not you after all. > All the best! > Raimo > Personal photography homepage at > http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho > > -Alkuperäinen viesti- > Lähettäjä: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Päivä: 24. lokakuuta 2002 21:45 > Aihe: Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great > stuff > > > >Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it > >definitely results in murder. > > > > > >--- "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I would never hurt YOU, but... > >> > >> Steve Desjardins wrote: > >> > >> > I'm really sorry if we offended you - please > don't > >> hurt me . . . . > >> > > > > > >= > >Chaso DeChaso > > > > = Chaso DeChaso "Less is more cheap" - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
RE: pz1p, fa* 300/4.5, AF550FTZ, Tok 80-200/2.8 and more...
-Original Message- > From: Nick Wright [mailto:nick@;wrightfoto.com] > > And working for a daily paper I > really need > digital, I can't spend four or more hours after a late > night football game > working film, it's killing me. > I hear you. 6 months ago I was developing *and* proofing all my b+w for weddings. I had 8 weddings this month, and realized if I tried to do it all myself I'd have a heart attack. I switched to T400CN, and only shoot a couple of rolls of Neopan 1600 that I process myself and have someone else proof. Good luck. tv
Re: pz1p, fa* 300/4.5, AF550FTZ, Tok 80-200/2.8 and more...
Canon. I found a used Kodak DCS 520 (aka Canon D2000). A stringer that works for me has been kind enough to let me use his d60 a couple of times in the last month or so. And I'm totally hooked. My strong point (as far as photography is concerned) is really sports, and you really can't beat Canon's AF. Pentax's AF is good, but I was shooting some tennis and volleyball last Tuesday and got some shots that I'm convinced would've been impossible with a Pentax. And working for a daily paper I really need digital, I can't spend four or more hours after a late night football game working film, it's killing me. I'm still keeping my k1000 and a 28, 50, and 135 for when I want to have fun shooting and have time to deal with film, so I'll prolly still be around here awhile. :) Nick Wright -- >From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: pz1p, fa* 300/4.5, AF550FTZ, Tok 80-200/2.8 and more... >Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 12:27 PM > >> -Original Message- >> From: Nick Wright [mailto:nickwright_tx@;yahoo.com] >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I'm making the dive and switching systems. I need to >> sell off my Pentax gear. Contact me privately if you >> want to see pictures. I'm sorry but I have to limit >> sales to the US, all prices below DO NOT include >> shipping. >> >> Round 1... >> PZ-1p #1: Exc+ condition. Bought used this past >> summer. > > Buh-bye, little buddy. > > What are you switching to? > > tv >
Vs: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
I´m really glad that it was not you after all. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 24. lokakuuta 2002 21:45 Aihe: Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff >Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it >definitely results in murder. > > >--- "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would never hurt YOU, but... >> >> Steve Desjardins wrote: >> >> > I'm really sorry if we offended you - please don't >> hurt me . . . . >> > > >= >Chaso DeChaso >
Re[2]: Film to check a lens
Bruce wrote: RBMB> ... I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. I wouldn't agree entirely. I recently used Reala 100 to take a series of test shots for my newly acquired SMC 135/2.5. Later I compared the enlargements to those made from a Fuji HG 100 - a very cheap, high contrast film, targeted for p&s crowd, which I bought strictly for test purposes. Same subject, different lens: FA 80-320/4.5-5.6. If I didn't new better, I would have said the zoom at 135 is just as good as the prime if not better. It took a bigger enlargement to show that the prime shows indeed finer details where the high contrast of the second film mislead the eye into thinking the resolution is better because local contrast is higher. Servus, Alin
RE: pz1p, fa* 300/4.5, AF550FTZ, Tok 80-200/2.8 and more...
> -Original Message- > From: Nick Wright [mailto:nickwright_tx@;yahoo.com] > > > Hello all, > > I'm making the dive and switching systems. I need to > sell off my Pentax gear. Contact me privately if you > want to see pictures. I'm sorry but I have to limit > sales to the US, all prices below DO NOT include > shipping. > > Round 1... > PZ-1p #1: Exc+ condition. Bought used this past > summer. Buh-bye, little buddy. What are you switching to? tv
Re: RE: Film to check a lens
Thanks Bruce.I hope to look at them both very soon. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:48:13 -0400 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Film to check a lens You have to look at the film to really see what is going on. I find it easier to examine slides than negatives. I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. Just make sure you use a tripod and good technique. The most difference between the lenses will be at wide apertures. So do most of your shooting there, and focus carefully. BR > End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Re: Film to check a lens
Thanks Gary.It is small is'nt Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: Film to check a lens
You have to look at the film to really see what is going on. I find it easier to examine slides than negatives. I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. Just make sure you use a tripod and good technique. The most difference between the lenses will be at wide apertures. So do most of your shooting there, and focus carefully. BR >
Re: Re: Film to check a lens
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, David Brooks wrote: > I did not aske Dan,but they are in the used section of > Pentaxes.They usually have a 10% or so bargining.BTW how do you > like the A version.If its nice it will probably go on the SP. I recently sold an A50/2, however, I was very happy with it, and sort of regret selling it.. It was quite sharp, but also small and light especially when in direct comparision to my A50/1.4.
Re: Re: Film to check a lens
I did not aske Dan,but they are in the used section of Pentaxes.They usually have a 10% or so bargining.BTW how do you like the A version.If its nice it will probably go on the SP. Dave Begin Original Message From: Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Are those prices are for new lenses? If they aren't that kind of pricey, especially for an A50/2, I paid $20 for my A50/2 and $40 for an A50/1.7. Dan Scott End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Film to check a lens
Thanks Christian.I think i have a roll of Provia 100F. I have not had either lens on a camera yet.I only noticed them when i went in to buy inkjet paper.I have the M50 f1.7 on the SP but i'm thinking the A would be better on it and put the 50 f1.7 on the K1000. Dave Begin Original Message Dave; BTW which 50/2 are you considering the M or A? I have 2 A's but cannot speak to their sharpness from lack of use... Christian End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Film to check a lens
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 11:15 AM, Dan Scott wrote: On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 10:54 AM, David Brooks wrote: I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer to this quiry Dave Dave, Are those prices are for new lenses? If they aren't that kind of pricey, especially for an A50/2, I paid $20 for my A50/2 and $40 for an A50/1.7. Dan Scott Cripes, that should read, "If they are, that seems kind of pricey,". Dan Scott
Re[3]: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
Ken, You must be confused. The scanners in question (Epson 2450 & replacement) actually scan film. They have a built in light source in the lid and holders for the negatives/chromes. The drivers and scanning software deal with what type of source material you are using (paper, negative, transparency). The nice thing about them is they can scan up to a 4X5 piece of film. They don't have the resolution or dmax of a nikon 8000, but they don't have a price tag of that either. The only choice for MF shooters is this at about 200-300 USD or a film scanner at about 2000-3000 USD. That is 10 times the price. I have tried two units. The first I was not satisfied with it's sharpness. I returned it. Later, reading on the web indicated that some of the earlier units had a QC issue where the focus point was not consistent and you could get less sharp scans (that's what I found). They seemed to have fixed that, so I ordered another and have been happy with it. My suggestion to Paal is to buy one from a place that he can return it, if he finds that it doesn't meet his needs. The alternative is very expensive. HTH, Bruce Friday, October 25, 2002, 6:13:45 AM, you wrote: KW> I'm told the best quality scan is achieved with a film scanner. Scanning a KW> print will not produce an equal quality scan, all other things being equal. KW> Not good news if your trying to obtain optimum scan quality for medium KW> format images on a limited budget. I've used a N Cool Scan 4000 ED film KW> & slide scanner and am very happy with the output, but this is a 35mm format KW> scanner. The N Super Coolscan 8000 is a medium format film scanner but KW> its cost is significantly higher than the 4000. KW> Ken Waller KW> - Original Message - KW> From: Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KW> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:06 PM KW> Subject: Re: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? >> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Thanks for the replies so far. I've settled on an Epson 2100. With this >> printer, if the advertising is to be believed, I can start producing and >> perhaps selling home made, gallery quality fine prints. However, this KW> leads >> to another question. Will a scanner like the new Epson GT-9800F produce >> scans good enough to take advantage of the 2100 printer? Or do I need a >> dedicated film scanner? >> >> Pål< >> >> unless you shoot medium format, that scanner will be barely adequate at >> best. >> >> Herb >> >>
Re: Film to check a lens
On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 08:54, David Brooks wrote: > I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only > body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f > 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 > Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something > to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so > would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one > hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper > and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer > to this quiry > > Dave Dave, Keep in mind that negative film won't show any colour casts if you're worried about that (it shouldn't be an issue). Slide film is generally a bit cheaper to buy and process, but you can't get it in 12 frame rolls. -Scott
Re: Film to check a lens
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 10:54 AM, David Brooks wrote: I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer to this quiry Dave Dave, Are those prices are for new lenses? If they aren't that kind of pricey, especially for an A50/2, I paid $20 for my A50/2 and $40 for an A50/1.7. Dan Scott
Re: Photographic Training
Brad, I wish I had done like you, and start out with a photo course. Being self-taught all the way (except for lots of valuable advice from the PDML), I feel that everything takes so much time to learn. Maybe I'm being less than average systematic about it, but I think I would have done better with a course or two in the first place. That said, it's definately more of a satisfaction to figure things out on my own than to have it served. I guess it's about _seeking_ information actively instead of being "fed" in a course or classroom situation. -Just wish the learning could happen a bit faster sometimes... :-) Jostein > - Original Message - > From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hey folks, > > > > I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in > > regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a > community > > college course, or something else, like training under a professional > or > > having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years > of > > simple experience and perhaps reading books? > > > > Just wondering why (besides my lack of experience) you folks are so > far > > ahead of me ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Brad Dobo > > > > > >
Re: Film to check a lens
On Friday 25 October 2002 11:54, David Brooks wrote: > I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only > body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f > 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 > Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something > to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so > would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one > hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper > and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer > to this quiry > > Dave > Dave; Whenever I want to test a new body or lens I run a roll of Fuji Provia 100F. By it's nature it is a sharp, contrast, fine-grained (some would say grainless...) film which makes it ideal for this sort of test. I'll shoot two or three frames per f-stop/shutter-spped combination in bright natural light of a detailed static subject (large gauge model trains are my favorite), get it developed and look at the slides on a light table with an 8x loupe. BTW which 50/2 are you considering the M or A? I have 2 A's but cannot speak to their sharpness from lack of use... Christian
Film to check a lens
I have a K1000 i'v wanted to buy a 50mm lens for(only body cap currently)and a local shop has two,a M50 f 2.0 and an A 50 f2.0(both Pentax) for about $40 US($60 Can)each.If i buy one i'llwant to run a quick roll of something to check sharpness etc.I shoot mainly colour film so would it be best to run a roll of 12 and do the one hour thing or would a quick roll of transparency(cheaper and faster? to develop)be better,or is there no answer to this quiry Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: Fw: Trading LX's
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: > When Pentax finally releases the Digital Flagship LX, do you think > they'll implement the sticky mirror in hardware or software? It'll be in the "secret options" section of the software, of course.
Re: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price?
I'm told the best quality scan is achieved with a film scanner. Scanning a print will not produce an equal quality scan, all other things being equal. Not good news if your trying to obtain optimum scan quality for medium format images on a limited budget. I've used a N Cool Scan 4000 ED film & slide scanner and am very happy with the output, but this is a 35mm format scanner. The N Super Coolscan 8000 is a medium format film scanner but its cost is significantly higher than the 4000. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Re: Quality film scanner at an acceptable price? > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Thanks for the replies so far. I've settled on an Epson 2100. With this > printer, if the advertising is to be believed, I can start producing and > perhaps selling home made, gallery quality fine prints. However, this leads > to another question. Will a scanner like the new Epson GT-9800F produce > scans good enough to take advantage of the 2100 printer? Or do I need a > dedicated film scanner? > > Pål< > > unless you shoot medium format, that scanner will be barely adequate at > best. > > Herb > >
Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff
No I think it is part of global warming. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff > I believe that's contrary to the Kyoto Treaty... :-) > > Norm Baugher wrote: > > > I think the light in my refrigerator stays on after I shut the door. > > > > -- > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert > Oppenheimer > > >
Re: Re: Re: Fw: Trading LX's
Well they do have the Vancouver office so i just put that in(Mississauga)to avoid confusion,but yes, that office is "the canada" office AFAIK. Dave Begin Original Message From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:19:34 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Trading LX's Dave, am I correct when I say Pentax Canada *is* only Mississauga? - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > Bill,Frank seems to have high regard for Kominek > here in Toronto.(Kominek.com)Might want to fire > an email for a quote.They replied within 24 hours > re my Yashica Mat. > > Dave > Begin Original Message > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:24:22 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > > > > - Original Message - > From: David Brooks > Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > > > > Just relay your Pentax Canada(Mississauga)story to him Bill:) > > Which reminds me. LX #3 arrived home today. I took it out of the > box, unwrapped it, removed the body cap, cocked the shutter and > pushed the button. > One of the mechanisms went ping. > And the mirror just sat there. Didn't move at all. > After 10 seconds or so, I actuated the mirror lock and the > shutter cycle completed. > This is not looking good. > > William Robb > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail > End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
Another Canon shooter trying to confuse things... All AF lenses are compatible with the N50. BR > -Original Message- > From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s@;hotmail.com] > > The AF 50mm f/1.8 is a very good lens. I'm not familiar with > the N50, so > I'd recommend that you check carefully to see which AF lens > models are > compatible with it. > > Len > --- >
Re: I'm Back
I suggest Yahoo mail. Twice the mailbox space (4 mb against 2 mb) and a one percent of the spam. I really don't know what people sees in hotmail. IT SUCKS! Albano "Yahoo" Garcia --- Leonard Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I'm using a Hotmail account and seem to be having no > problems. You just > have to be sure to go into Hotmail's Options and > enter "pentax-discuss" into > the mailing lists box. > > Len > --- > > >From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: I'm Back > >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:18:50 -0600 > > > >Hi, > > > >I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and > looking through the > >emails i'm glad i missed a lot of it! > > > >I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as > my old ones were > >getting spammed to much and the pdml doesn't like > hotmail accounts. > > > >I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i > maintain in the next week or > >so, so for everyone who's sent me pictures, URLs or > notifications of errors > >will have to wait a little longer. > > > >Regards, > >Paul > > > _ > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN > Broadband. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: I'm Back
Hi, Paul Nice to see you here again. Last weeks were a pain in the a..., in fact I've been thinking in unsubscribing for a long time. You know, pure flame wars and a lot of speculations about the f...ng new ghost digital slr. Well, things seems to be becoming to normality now Regards Albano --- Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and > looking through the emails i'm glad i missed a lot > of it! > > I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as > my old ones were getting spammed to much and the > pdml doesn't like hotmail accounts. > > I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i maintain > in the next week or so, so for everyone who's sent > me pictures, URLs or notifications of errors will > have to wait a little longer. > > Regards, > Paul > > = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Re: Fw: Trading LX's
Dave, am I correct when I say Pentax Canada *is* only Mississauga? - Original Message - From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > Bill,Frank seems to have high regard for Kominek > here in Toronto.(Kominek.com)Might want to fire > an email for a quote.They replied within 24 hours > re my Yashica Mat. > > Dave > Begin Original Message > > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:24:22 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > > > > - Original Message - > From: David Brooks > Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's > > > > Just relay your Pentax Canada(Mississauga)story to him Bill:) > > Which reminds me. LX #3 arrived home today. I took it out of the > box, unwrapped it, removed the body cap, cocked the shutter and > pushed the button. > One of the mechanisms went ping. > And the mirror just sat there. Didn't move at all. > After 10 seconds or so, I actuated the mirror lock and the > shutter cycle completed. > This is not looking good. > > William Robb > > > > End Original Message > > > > > Pentax User > Stouffville Ontario Canada > http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ > http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses > Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail >
Re: Fw: Trading LX's
William Robb wrote: > Which reminds me. LX #3 arrived home today. I took it out of the > box, unwrapped it, removed the body cap, cocked the shutter and > pushed the button. > One of the mechanisms went ping. > And the mirror just sat there. Didn't move at all. > After 10 seconds or so, I actuated the mirror lock and the > shutter cycle completed. > This is not looking good. Dang, awful news Bill. The LX is under their warranty now, send it back and be extremely abrasive. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Metaphors (Was Re: A funny problem with digital)
I always preferred "Dumber than a box of hammers". It has a better sound, somehow.
Re: I'm Back
Welcome back Paul.The picture i sent of myself was in haste,just to get one on before you left.I now have time to do a better one. :) Dave Begin Original Message From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:18:50 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'm Back Hi, I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and looking through the emails i'm glad i missed a lot of it! I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as my old ones were getting spammed to much and the pdml doesn't like hotmail accounts. I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i maintain in the next week or so, so for everyone who's sent me pictures, URLs or notifications of errors will have to wait a little longer. Regards, Paul End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: I'm Back
Hi Paul, I'm using a Hotmail account and seem to be having no problems. You just have to be sure to go into Hotmail's Options and enter "pentax-discuss" into the mailing lists box. Len --- From: "Paul Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I'm Back Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:18:50 -0600 Hi, I'm back subscribed, if any one actualy cares:) and looking through the emails i'm glad i missed a lot of it! I've got a new email i'm using for the pdml now, as my old ones were getting spammed to much and the pdml doesn't like hotmail accounts. I'll also be updating both the pdml sites i maintain in the next week or so, so for everyone who's sent me pictures, URLs or notifications of errors will have to wait a little longer. Regards, Paul _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
Re: Pentax PC-550
Sure. We went to New York last weekend and she shot three rolls of Superia. I'll scan some tonight and post them somewhere on my site. Evan "Dan Scott" wrote: > > On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 09:25 AM, Dan Scott wrote: > > > > Hi Evan, > > > > Any chance you could send a sample of its print? > > > > Dan Scott > > > > > Er, "scan" was supposed to be in there. > > Dan Scott > >
