Re: shift lens or shift and tilt len
Hi, the effect of tilt is higher at smaller focus length. Best regards, Hans. --- adphoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the replies these are the 3 i have found on ebay and i take it from the respnses that the 80mm would be the best to have tilt with am i correct or would the 35mm be the better one?? i see canon has a tilt shift 24mm what would tht be good for? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2936967248 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935920753 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935921300 and a simple shift lens http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2935725782 _ 23a mail _ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get [EMAIL PROTECTED], No Ads, 6MB, IMAP, POP, SMTP more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag
MZ-S problem
A question for the MZ-S owners out there. Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not the emulsion side) of the film? I have and I'm suspecting my MZ-S is to blame. Could you please take a look at this picture and tell me what you think. http://w1.431.telia.com/~u43105651/ The scratch you see runs through the entire roll. On the other hand I took 10 rolls the same day this was taken and only this roll and one other were affected. The other affected roll had two or three negs scratched, not the entire roll. Any great ideas before I send it to the repair shop? Thanks Petter
Re: MZ-S problem
I don't have MZ-S, but you can try to load a flesh set of scratch free film and the rewind it with leader out. See if there is any scratch. You should know the result instantly. regards, Alan Chan A question for the MZ-S owners out there. Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not the emulsion side) of the film? I have and I'm suspecting my MZ-S is to blame. Could you please take a look at this picture and tell me what you think. http://w1.431.telia.com/~u43105651/ The scratch you see runs through the entire roll. On the other hand I took 10 rolls the same day this was taken and only this roll and one other were affected. The other affected roll had two or three negs scratched, not the entire roll. Any great ideas before I send it to the repair shop? Thanks Petter _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: MZ-S problem
But it sounds like a lab problem to me. You don't get scratch this way with 2 or 3 frames only in the middle of the roll. regards, Alan Chan I don't have MZ-S, but you can try to load a flesh set of scratch free film and the rewind it with leader out. See if there is any scratch. You should know the result instantly. regards, Alan Chan A question for the MZ-S owners out there. Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not the emulsion side) of the film? I have and I'm suspecting my MZ-S is to blame. Could you please take a look at this picture and tell me what you think. http://w1.431.telia.com/~u43105651/ The scratch you see runs through the entire roll. On the other hand I took 10 rolls the same day this was taken and only this roll and one other were affected. The other affected roll had two or three negs scratched, not the entire roll. Any great ideas before I send it to the repair shop? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: MZ-S problem
Looks like a grain of sand found its way on the pressure plate when you loaded that particular roll. No wonder judging by the quantity of dust your camera displays in the picture - and no offense intended. It happened to me a couple of times, and ever since I take the time to brush the film chamber on each roll change - if time allows. BTW, no MZ-S here, not yet. Servus, Alin Petter wrote: PJ A question for the MZ-S owners out there. PJ Have you ever experienced scratches on the outside (not the emulsion PJ side) of the film? PJ I have and I'm suspecting my MZ-S is to blame. Could you please take a PJ look at this picture and tell me what you think. PJ http://w1.431.telia.com/~u43105651/ PJ The scratch you see runs through the entire roll. On the other hand I PJ took 10 rolls the same day this was taken and only this roll and one PJ other were affected. The other affected roll had two or three negs PJ scratched, not the entire roll. PJ Any great ideas before I send it to the repair shop?
Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese
Don't know, but you might try running the page through Babelfish translating. Maris Steve Larson wrote: Hi, Could anyone tell me where the email or contact link on this page is: http://www.rakuten.co.jp/4wd-tuhan/ Thanks, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese
Thanks, Ken an Jerome found it for me. Silly me, there was a link for email in english at the bottom of the page. Thanks again! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:47 AM Subject: Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese Don't know, but you might try running the page through Babelfish translating. Maris Steve Larson wrote: Hi, Could anyone tell me where the email or contact link on this page is: http://www.rakuten.co.jp/4wd-tuhan/ Thanks, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: Happy Pentax to me
My first camera: Pentax SP1000 SMCT 55/2, 1975 My first Pentax: see above regards, Anthony Farr
OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Bob S.: I can say that the A85mm f1.4 is sharper, but the size frightens small children and dogs, not to mention the relatives you might want candid portraits of. You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a small MX would still frighten the children? Andre --
RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
-Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. tv
DSLR sales
DSLR sales this year are projected to be in the 600,000 - 1,000,000 range. Canon is selling 30,000 10Ds a month and can't keep up with demand. I Pentax can't get a decent piece of this market they are beyond hopeless. Full article here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062501oly9.asp __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Revised GFM page done
I've revised my Grandfather Mountain photo page - eliminated some old shots that no longer made the grade and added some new stuff from this year. http://www.robertstech.com/g_father.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. Yeah. If the $4,500 price holds true it's really cheap (for Leica). -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. Yeah. If the $4,500 price holds true it's really cheap (for Leica). Add $2000 for the camera, and $6000 for a 15mm if you want to go wide. Still, it could be worse. tv
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 10:52, tom wrote: Wow. tv My first thought too. Christian
Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese
It's always good to check bottoms :-) Maris - Original Message - From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese Thanks, Ken an Jerome found it for me. Silly me, there was a link for email in english at the bottom of the page. Thanks again! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:47 AM Subject: Re: Way OT, help translate Japanese Don't know, but you might try running the page through Babelfish translating. Maris Steve Larson wrote: Hi, Could anyone tell me where the email or contact link on this page is: http://www.rakuten.co.jp/4wd-tuhan/ Thanks, Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Mark Roberts schrieb: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Silly question? I'd be happy with such a back and would pay for it the price of an *ist-D I think. No need for another body... After all, manufacturers from Chinon to Zeiss where presenting mockups of such backs since the eighties, and I'd really like to know why nobody ever did it. Just my 0,02 EUR. Thomas
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
I had to run over to leica.com to check this out. Umm, Tom's right wow. I didn't see this one coming. Evan From: Christian Skofteland Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. On Wednesday 25 June 2003 10:52, tom wrote: Wow. tv My first thought too. Christian
RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Wasn't there a huge debate some time ago where this concept was widely decided to be impractical? It looks like a nicely integrated digital back on a manual film advance manual focus camera. At 10:52 AM 6/25/03 -0400, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. tv To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
It's the medium format way of doing things but, excepting the earlier multiscan backs, an electronic interface to control the digi back needs to be built into the camera body. Leica R8/R9s evidently have the required interface. A full time DSLR doesn't need that interface because its digital imager is integral to the camera. If it was feasible to have an instantaneous shot style of digi back that could link up to a camera with no interface, DigitalFilm would have appeared years ago instead of languishing in vapourware limbo. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Th. Stach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (snip) Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Silly question? I'd be happy with such a back and would pay for it the price of an *ist-D I think. No need for another body... After all, manufacturers from Chinon to Zeiss where presenting mockups of such backs since the eighties, and I'd really like to know why nobody ever did it. Just my 0,02 EUR. Thomas
Takumar Ultra-Achromatic lenses
Has anybody tried some of the three Ultra-Achromatic lenses for visible light photography? Andre --
Screen for bright lenses: SA-23 or new 60s?
I already know what Pentax say in their tables, but, from your experience, is the SA-23 screen a better choice than the 60 series for low light photography with bright lenses (mostly K50/1.4, A85/1.4, 135/1.8 and occasionnally K28/2, K35/2, 200/2.5)? Thanks, Andre --
Re: Happy Pentax to me
Joe was foolish enough to sell his KX to me. Big mistake. _HUGE_ mwahahaha. BTW, Joe, it's KX body number two for me. I have one I like a tad better. Had the shutter and meter checked: the one you sold me is accurate enough to shoot slide film. Meter dead on, about 1/3 stop variation, at worst, in shutter speeds. -Lon Joe Wilensky wrote: My first experience with Pentax was on the battered K1000s in a high school photography class, 1983, (taught by the graphics/industrial arts teacher, an interesting perspective on photographic art). Two years later, when I became a photographer on the yearbook staff, I bought my own K1000. I wish I had known more about Pentax's lineup at the time -- having only Service Merchandise and similar catalogs and outlets, I only knew about the K1000, since that was the only Pentax offering that ever showed up in those places (with 50mm f/2 lens, and if you wanted, a poor Gemini 80-200 f/4.5-something zoom kit with lens cleaner pack). I wish I had known enough to poke around actual camera shops! But the K1000 served me well. I began collecting cameras in the late 1980s, but it was nearly a decade later, after playing with Arguses (Argi?), Retinas, Contaflexes, Voigtlanders (the old kind), and others, that I finally looked at Pentax again, which got me into the screwmounts. Having gone backwards in Pentax chronology, I finally moved forward as well, upgrading my K1000 by trying out a KX, MXes, an ME and an ME Super, and a Super Program. I have finally reached what seems like a workable three-level system, I hope -- a decent screwmount lineup, with SV/Spotmatic/ES II and lenses, two MXes and a nice M prime lens collection, and the SFX/PZ-1 and a few F and FA lenses. I use the screwmounts and MXes for that unparalleled manual focus and mechanical precision feel, for black-and-white and unobtrusive available light photography, and I use the autofocus for the kids, some family trips, and to always have ready for any situation. Happy Pentax to me, too -- the PZ-1p should arrive today! This subject line keeps making me think of the Frances series of books my older daughter likes -- with the Chompo bar and her whispered Happy Chompo to me song! Joe Are we playing a game? I haven't really been watching this thread. First cameras and first Pentax? Sadly, I only came into the Pentax fold fairly recently... First camera: Kodak Brownie Starflash, probably around 1964. Still at Mom's place. First 35mm: can't remember, Japanese match-needle metered rangefinder, 40mm 2.8 lens, circa 1969 or 70. First 35mm slr: Praktica LTL (I think) - I wanted a Spottie, but couldn't afford one, so I specifically got an m42, so I could make the switch some day, circa 1971. First Pentax: SP500, about 1997 regards, frank Kenneth Waller wrote: Zeiss Ikon Contiina - 1956, 1959 a folding 35mm Voightlander rangefinder - forgot the model, 1969 Asahi Pentax Spotmatic - $89 from Nam. Kenneth Waller -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Th. Stach wrote: Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Not even for the 645 ? cheers, caveman
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 19:25, skrev Caveman: Th. Stach wrote: Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Not even for the 645 ? Wasn´t there some news saying that they would? DagT
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Dag T wrote: Not even for the 645 ? Wasn´t there some news saying that they would? IIRC they were speaking of a new body, not a back for the existing one ?
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Interesting comment on Luminous Landscape in the blurb about the Leica digital back: Now, all we need to hear next is what Nikon has up its sleeves. There are lots of rumours buzzing around knowledgeable Nikon circles, but let's just wait to see what the next few weeks bring. Interesting that he cites knowledgeable Nikon sources. I'm personally quite surprised that there's been no official denial of the new Nikon lens mount rumour. When the rumour first surfaced I gave it a 99% chance of being pure bullsh*t. Now my estimate is down to 50%. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Based on my understanding of how the LX motor drive works there is no reason something like this couldn't be built for that body. I don't know about the MZ-S. (Unless you're talking at extremely big bucks a sensor for the 645 wouldn't really take advantage of the format anyway). At 01:25 PM 6/25/03 -0400, you wrote: Th. Stach wrote: Wow, indeed. But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Not even for the 645 ? cheers, caveman To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: OT, and Very Silly
Dave try to sneak into the dome with a 400mm F5.6, and see what the guards think it is lol. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shoulda seen the looks I got when I whipped out my big long 70-200 2.8 L lens.. *smirk* Cheers, Dave P.S. a full blown TOPDML should be had soon.. Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:18:46 US/Eastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, and Very Silly To bad i missed that one. Godda put the 6x7 with those and really impress the masses. Dave Jeff, who's unsubbed for a while, sent me a couple of shots from last weekend's Pentax-less TOPDML. The band was a very good tribute to Django. I still think Jeff's Fuji 690 is freakishly large: http://www.pbase.com/jefftokayer/semi-topdml ciao, frank frank theriault wrote: It's just a raw scan from a contact, so of course it's blurry. I think, however, that the next TOPDML should meet there: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1573263size=lg As it turns out, three of us met on the weekend (Jeff, Dave CS and I), and there wasn't a Pentax in sight. Does that say something? We were at the Toronto Jazz Downtown Jazz Fest, and Jeff got the most questions/comments about his camera of the day, his Fuji 690, especially when he put on the 180mm lens - that's a very big combo, but quite impressive. He took a pic of the Texax Leica next to my little CL. It should be a hoot to look at, as his thing is monstrous next to mine! (GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTERS, I'M TALKING CAMERAS HERE! G) cheers, frank -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Excerpt from: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005K61 Today, I saw this message from David Dentry from Nikon USA in the D1 Discussion Digest. Mr. Dentry has made it clear that his message respresents the official Nikon position: HI Ok, everyone take a deep breath... Here you go: Nikon is not planning on changing the standard F mount on new cameras. Let me shout that out a little louder: NIKON IS NOT PLANNING ON CHANGING THE STANDARD F MOUNT ON NEW CAMERAS. We were told that you couldn't do AF with the small F mount, but we did. We were told that you couldn't have internal focusing, but we did. We were told that you couldn't have AF-S focusing in the F, but we did. We were told that you couldn't get extreme wide angle, but we did. Clearly the current lens mount system works and it would be silly for us to alienate 50 years of lens purchasers. Hope this is clear! -David -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- David Dentry Manager, Technical Information, Digital Products Nikon USA Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that he cites knowledgeable Nikon sources. I'm personally quite surprised that there's been no official denial of the new Nikon lens mount rumour. When the rumour first surfaced I gave it a 99% chance of being pure bullsh*t. Now my estimate is down to 50%. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: Optio S advertising
Christian has noted. Have you picked up a photo magazine lately? Nikon and Canon advertise the crap out of their DSLRs and digicams as well as their film offerings from consumer to pro grade. What's so sad is that I have yet to see an ad for the Optio S which is such a big hit for Pentax, yet I've seen ads for the Casio version. Christian Pentax actually has no need to advertise the Optio S. According to my local Pentax rep, there are more than 40,000 of them on dealer backorders. Also, the Casio is not a version of the Optio S. The only thing Pentax about the Casio is the lens and possibly some firmware. The Casio isn't as small as the Optio S, and does not utilize interchangeable batteries. It must be placed in a charging stand to recharge the internal battery. In other words, if your battery dies while you're in the middle of a shoot, you are SOL until you stick it on the charger and wait for it to recharge. With my Optio S, it takes about 15 seconds to change batteries, and they seem to last for at least 100 or more exposures. Bill
OT: Nikon F mount (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
I wonder how Mr. Dentry explains why the F80 and lower don't meter with all the lenses produced in these past 50 years. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly the current lens mount system works and it would be silly for us to alienate 50 years of lens purchasers. Hope this is clear! -David -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- David Dentry Manager, Technical Information, Digital Products Nikon USA
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Well, the company bringing Nikon into Norway still has an explanation why nobody, and especially not Nikon, will ever make a full format chip. It´s fun reading, for those who understand Norwegian: http://www.interfoto.no/artikkelarkiv/ artikkel.asp?artikkel_id=32type=artikkelarkivarkiv=digital So I guess I believe exactly what I want about this too. But that´s what we do with Pentax on this list anyway, so why treat Nikon differently :-) DagT På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 20:26, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Excerpt from: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005K61 Today, I saw this message from David Dentry from Nikon USA in the D1 Discussion Digest. Mr. Dentry has made it clear that his message respresents the official Nikon position: HI Ok, everyone take a deep breath... Here you go: Nikon is not planning on changing the standard F mount on new cameras. Let me shout that out a little louder: NIKON IS NOT PLANNING ON CHANGING THE STANDARD F MOUNT ON NEW CAMERAS. We were told that you couldn't do AF with the small F mount, but we did. We were told that you couldn't have internal focusing, but we did. We were told that you couldn't have AF-S focusing in the F, but we did. We were told that you couldn't get extreme wide angle, but we did. Clearly the current lens mount system works and it would be silly for us to alienate 50 years of lens purchasers. Hope this is clear! -David -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- David Dentry Manager, Technical Information, Digital Products Nikon USA Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting that he cites knowledgeable Nikon sources. I'm personally quite surprised that there's been no official denial of the new Nikon lens mount rumour. When the rumour first surfaced I gave it a 99% chance of being pure bullsh*t. Now my estimate is down to 50%. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: OT, and Very Silly
What is a TOPDML On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 08:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You shoulda seen the looks I got when I whipped out my big long 70-200 2.8 L lens.. *smirk* Cheers, Dave P.S. a full blown TOPDML should be had soon.. Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:18:46 US/Eastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT, and Very Silly To bad i missed that one. Godda put the 6x7 with those and really impress the masses. Dave Jeff, who's unsubbed for a while, sent me a couple of shots from last weekend's Pentax-less TOPDML. The band was a very good tribute to Django. I still think Jeff's Fuji 690 is freakishly large: http://www.pbase.com/jefftokayer/semi-topdml ciao, frank frank theriault wrote: It's just a raw scan from a contact, so of course it's blurry. I think, however, that the next TOPDML should meet there: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1573263size=lg As it turns out, three of us met on the weekend (Jeff, Dave CS and I), and there wasn't a Pentax in sight. Does that say something? We were at the Toronto Jazz Downtown Jazz Fest, and Jeff got the most questions/comments about his camera of the day, his Fuji 690, especially when he put on the 180mm lens - that's a very big combo, but quite impressive. He took a pic of the Texax Leica next to my little CL. It should be a hoot to look at, as his thing is monstrous next to mine! (GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTERS, I'M TALKING CAMERAS HERE! G) cheers, frank -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
First of all, I don't know why nobody has done this yet, it seems long overdue since medium format has been doing it since... how long? Second: those Leica R systems are GORGEOUS! Joshua Hakin www.hakinphoto.com On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:44 AM, Christian Skofteland wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? No, they all hide in the corner when the f1.4 comes out. ;-) Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a small MX would still frighten the children? Andre The A85/1.4 needs a PZ-1 with a grip to put the body in proportion to the lens. The M85/2 is almost the size of an A50/1.4...no problems on an MX or ME. Regards, Bob S.
Re: Happy Pentax to me
Yes, Lon, I still miss that KX. But I have two MXes now, and they fit my hands better -- although I don't mind the larger PZ-1 (it is far more ergonomic, though) or the ESII, which isn't ergonomic at all and may be larger than the KX, even. Go figure. Joe Joe was foolish enough to sell his KX to me. Big mistake. _HUGE_ mwahahaha. BTW, Joe, it's KX body number two for me. I have one I like a tad better. Had the shutter and meter checked: the one you sold me is accurate enough to shoot slide film. Meter dead on, about 1/3 stop variation, at worst, in shutter speeds. -Lon
Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 21:12, skrev Joshua Hakin: First of all, I don't know why nobody has done this yet, it seems long overdue since medium format has been doing it since... how long? Maybe most cameras where too cheap. It was easier and just as cheap to have two. Second: those Leica R systems are GORGEOUS! At least their price-tags are. I´ve tried saving for one, but couldn´t even cope with the inflation :-) DagT On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:44 AM, Christian Skofteland wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
Cotty wrote: I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html Nice *web page* ;-) cheers, caveman
RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Peter wrote: Wasn't there a huge debate some time ago where this concept was widely decided to be impractical? It looks like a nicely integrated digital back on a manual film advance manual focus camera. REPLY: It seems pretty impractical to me! The thing is huge! In 1,5 years time DSLR with 10Mp is probbaly no larger than the *ist D. Oh and a film advance level on a DSLR make it look like some Frankestein monster! :o) I'm not convinced that this product will materialize. Pål
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Thomas wrote: But why then can't Pentax develop such a back for an MZ-S or LX? Silly question? I'd be happy with such a back and would pay for it the price of an *ist-D I think. No need for another body... After all, manufacturers from Chinon to Zeiss where presenting mockups of such backs since the eighties, and I'd really like to know why nobody ever did it. REPLY: It may make sense for Leica to make a digital back solution. For those users $4500 might even be considered value for money! From a technical point of view such a camera is nothing but a bastard. I believe the concept is weird too. It demands that the users will want to use both film and digital on the same body to make sense. I believe that the vast majority switch to digital in order to get away from film! It is more cost effective to make a dedicated digital body and a dedicated film body. Then they can be engineered to what they are supposed to to. Anyway, these current digital news breaking is mostly to signalise to the market that the manufacturer have plans for digital solutions for their systems. I for one expect Minolta soon to disclose their DSLR. Pål
Re: DSLR sales
Bruce wrote: DSLR sales this year are projected to be in the 600,000 - 1,000,000 range. Canon is selling 30,000 10Ds a month and can't keep up with demand. I Pentax can't get a decent piece of this market they are beyond hopeless. REPLY: Agreed. Provided the numbers are correct.I can remember than Canon claimed 8 000 units a month on their web page. Perhaps demand has increased? Anyway, considering that only Nikon and Canon are currently providing DSLR's, and I'm not really sure if the Olympus DSLR's without interchangeable lense are included in the numbers, Canons market share of 80% tells how far behind Nikon is in sales. The most interesting thing with these numbers is that people have accepted the high price of the digital cameras. This can mean that manufacturers will release higher-end cameras to larger extent in the future. The new Olympus points in this direction. Theres no reason why Pentax shouldn't jump into this market as soon as possible. A whole DSLR line-up should be possible to sustain in this growing segment. Pål
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Caveman wrote: IIRC they were speaking of a new body, not a back for the existing one ? REPLY: It was a bit unclear. It sounded like a digital back for a coming MF camera. Or it could be a digital camera using MF lenses. I'm almost sure it is not a digital back for current camera models. Pål
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Bruce quoted: NIKON IS NOT PLANNING ON CHANGING THE STANDARD F MOUNT ON NEW CAMERAS. REPLY: The statement can be understood in two ways. Even if Nikon release another mount the statement stoill holds true. So basically, they avoided the issue and said really nothing except that they won't make changes to the F mount. Pål
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
På onsdag, 25. juni 2003, kl. 22:25, skrev Pål Jensen: Oh and a film advance level on a DSLR make it look like some Frankestein monster! :o) I think it looks like an advanced dSLR :-) DagT
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Pål Jensen wrote: From a technical point of view such a camera is nothing but a bastard. I believe the concept is weird too. Maybe you should post this on the Mamiya and Hasselblad lists too.
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
Sylwek wrote: Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses) REPLY: But they have probably figured out that the the way to crack the consumer market is through the professional segment. Look at Nikon and Canon. Pål
RE: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Hi Arnold Impressive work you've done. I just made simple portrait shots in B/W with some above 80mm lenses - they all looked alike - except for the SMCF70-210mm, which seemed to beat both the M2.0/85mm, the K105, and A135mm (unfortunately I dont have a A*1.4/85mm) as far as sharpness is concerned. I agree that 85mm is a very pleasent focal length and the 2.0/85mm is has an attractive size. I often use medium format for Portraits for maximum resolution, though. Or the Tokina 2.6-2.8/28-70mm. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. juni 2003 04:25 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? Hi Jens, as I have written before, I have done my own resolution etc. tests of portrait lenses: See http://www.arnoldstark.de/pentax.htm Here are the results in line pairs/mm averaged from f2 to f11 and from centre to corner: M85 65 K85 61 A*85 62 FA*8566 FA77 69 My test may not be perfect, but if so then my results could only be worse (not better) than the real performance of the lenses. So, at the tested magnification, the M85/f2 is no dog at all with respect to resolution. Also, my experience confirms that the lens is sharp at mid apertures. It may be worse at infinity. As Yoshihiko did not measure at infinty either, Arnold about 85/2: I can explain his low resolution numbers only by guessing that he had a bad sample. Or you had a better than average sample. Are there other tests available (Pop Ph, Mod Ph etc.) ? Andre --
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Pål Jensen wrote: But they have probably figured out that the the way to crack the consumer market is through the professional segment. Look at Nikon and Canon. They have even created site for pros: http://www.olympus-pro.com/index.eu.en.html This can be good way. Pentax choose once the same way to sell LX. And it was succesful - many pros bought Pentax instead of Canon, Nikon or Olympus (OM). Maybe this strategy will make Olympus' E-system succesful too? Time will tell... -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
I wrote: Anyway, these current digital news breaking is mostly to signalise to the market that the manufacturer have plans for digital solutions for their systems. I for one expect Minolta soon to disclose their DSLR. Actually, at closer scrutiny this seem like nothing but an attempt to keep interest up in the very slow selling Leica R system. They may have no ther choices than such a solution to keep the system going. It will also be shown first at Photokina in almost 1,5 years time! Who knows when you can actually buy it? Pål
Re: OT: No digital trickery here!
I like the one with the caption, Here, have some more crisps, little gurl! Oh, I see he's removed the caption. Well, never mind... The second one I particularly like is, the one where the gent who has the Mona Lisa smile is passing out half-filled glasses of some libation. No doubt he's smiling because the equestrian still doesn't know where he got the champagne 'way out here'... g Great shots as usual, Cot! keith Caveman wrote: Cotty wrote: I swear to God, this *photograph* has not been manipulated other than Curves adjustment, Unsharp Mask, and a slight crop... http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/grabs/images/pic19.html Nice *web page* ;-) cheers, caveman
Re: Pentax advertising (was Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux)
Have you picked up a photo magazine lately? Nikon and Canon advertise the crap out of their DSLRs and digicams as well as their film offerings from consumer to pro grade. What's so sad is that I have yet to see an ad for the Optio S which is such a big hit for Pentax, yet I've seen ads for the Casio version. That's really the flaw of the regional offices. There are constant ads in Japanese magazines. regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a small MX would still frighten the children? _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Happy Pentax to me
A bit late, as usual... Taking a look at my old negatives, I've found a roll marked #2, from my first K-1000, which is 9 years old (May 1994). My first cameras are the following: Kodak Instamatic, 1986 (the first camera I can call mine, I had it from my father when he was given a FX-3 super 2000 as a present for his 25 years of career), still works; Konica A-4, first 35mm, December 1990, dead in 1995; Kiev 4am, first rangefinder with interchangeable lenses, May 1993 (I should have said 'Happy Kiev to me' a month ago, then, but it would have been far off topic...), still works (year of production: 1983); Kiev 19, first SLR, late 1993, broken in 1994; K-1000, first Pentax camera, May 1994, stolen (sigh...) in 1995. H... All those names start with a K, there should be a meaning in that... :-) Ciao, Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: Pentax advertising (was Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux)
That's really the flaw of the regional offices. There are constant ads in Japanese magazines. Here in Poland, we have a very peculiar situation. On the one hand, there's lots of Pentax advertising in photographic magazines (of the MZ-S, now the Optios - and I mean BIG advertisements, like a full page, or back cover), but on the other hand these products are rarely available in stores. I guess that's what you get for having a distributor that deals mainly in wrist watches :-( Regards, ukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
There are a lot of vaporware words in that press release but, it sure is interesting. Note: how close to the serface the sensors are, and it still has to set into the film gate. I guess that gives it enough clearance for the shutter though. Wonder if they actually have a working prototype yet. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: Leica R9/R8 digital back. -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian Wow. tv
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
The time that I still had my FA*85/1.4, everyone was frightened whenever I point that damn thing at them. Everyone of them were amazed by how big the hood was. No such problem with the 77. :-) regards, Alan Chan You mean dogs bark at the f1.4 lens but keep quiet when you shoot them with the f2 lens? Does the front element makes it? I mean, would a 85/2 on a PZ-1 or K camera be fine while a 85/1.4 on a small MX would still frighten the children? The A85/1.4 hood is monstrous also, but with a cooler shade, the lens is not that frightening I think. A nice hood I found for it is the one for the Hexanon 85-210/3.5. I can even reverse it on the lens. Andre --
digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
apparently not true. kodak has one-shot backs for hassies 500* and swc. as far as i can tell, there's no digital interface on the back of 500c. mishka From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. It's the medium format way of doing things but, excepting the earlier multiscan backs, an electronic interface to control the digi back needs to be built into the camera body. Leica R8/R9s evidently have the required interface. A full time DSLR doesn't need that interface because its digital imager is integral to the camera. If it was feasible to have an instantaneous shot style of digi back that could link up to a camera with no interface, DigitalFilm would have appeared years ago instead of languishing in vapourware limbo. regards, Anthony Farr
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? The A85/1.4 hood is monstrous also, but with a cooler shade, the lens is not that frightening I think. A nice hood I found for it is the one for the Hexanon 85-210/3.5. I can even reverse it on the lens. Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. The 6x7 with the 165mm or 200mm lens has a very different effect on a model than an LX and an 85mm f/2, and the 4x5 is even more off putting for amateur models. The last thing a photographer wants to do is scare the people he/she will be photographing in a few minutes. It makes for bad photos. This is not to say the 85mm f/1.4 isn't a good portrait lens, but it might not be the best choice for a general purpose portrait lens either, if it intimidates people. When I am training a new model, I start with 35mm and work through to medium format, and then large format over several sessions before I expect to get anything good from the larger film. William Robb
Re: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
Jens Bladt wrote: Imacon: Actually - according to Imacon's web site, the Ixpress (medium format back) can make up to 384 MB files - one picture, that is! That's more than 20 times the *ist D and many other cameras! This quite answers the question are 6 MP enough. cheers, caveman
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
William Robb wrote: Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) cheers, caveman
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
- Original Message - From: Caveman Subject: Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one? Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment. I sense a lewd something here ;-) You would. William Robb
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
This is why the people skills of a photographer are very important for things like wedding photography. Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non professional subjects tend to be intimidated by large equipment.
Re: OT, and Very Silly
Yeah, a big TOPDML should be in the offing. , Jeff was wondering when the Beaches Jazz Fest is. That's actually better than Downtown in terms of photo ops. Lots more street action. cheers, frank Hummm.Jazz AND Blues look good in BW.I have lots in the fridge.Sounds good to moi.Any idea on the dates for that Frank. Dave
Part two:Macro experiment
Ok gang,question time. Who here,besides me,has used stop down metering but did not stop down. one,two three...ha i new i was not the only one. Comical results of the experiment seems to be this. First attempt was using the SP with K adaptor and a 10mm tube with 55 f1.8.All were terrably over exposed.Re did the test with same equipment,same subjects , same weather with Provia 400 F(1st time with RG 200)THIS TIME is stopped down and they all look great,except for one.Blew something on that one. Chaulk this up to a learning experience. On a side note,i have shot several 120 and 35 format chrome rolls this past few weeks and am starting to get really excited about the qualities and colour.Some of the iris shots look fantastic.The 120 shots all look nice too.I think i'll shot soe more of this stuff and pick a few for scan and prints later on. Brother Dave BTW Brenda,Ernie at Accent says hi.:)
Re: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere
actually, weather sealed body was the #1 reason for me to buy LX and not to buy MZ-S. you know, a very special situation called rain happens pretty often here. not to mention even more special instance of ocean beach g best, mishka Sylwek wrote: Actually E-1 body is bigger and heavier by 150g than *ist D. And it has only 5 MPix... You are right - only some specialized pros will buy it (mainly for weather sealed body and lenses)
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. Based on my understanding of how the LX motor drive works there is no reason something like this couldn't be built for that body. I don't know about the MZ-S. (Unless you're talking at extremely big bucks a sensor for the 645
Re: OT, and Very Silly
Hi, Dave, Nope. Don't know when Beaches Jazz is, but I think it's usually in July some time. Once I know dates, I'll let everyone know. cheers, frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hummm.Jazz AND Blues look good in BW.I have lots in the fridge.Sounds good to moi.Any idea on the dates for that Frank. Dave -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
Re: SV: Prime portrait lenses - which one?
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: Every bride has a concept of what a bride should look like, but doesn't realize that the marketed bride image is that of professional models. Knowing your veneration to professional everything... did you get a professional bride too ? cheers, caveman
Re: OT, and Very Silly
frank theriault wrote: Don't know when Beaches Jazz is, but I think it's usually in July some time. 1st July. Quebec celebrates it by relocating. cheers, caveman
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use their own 'virtual' shutter. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently not true. kodak has one-shot backs for hassies 500* and swc. as far as i can tell, there's no digital interface on the back of 500c. mishka
Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Anthony Farr wrote: Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use their own 'virtual' shutter. Supposing there's no signal from the camera available. And since it's not a full frame sensor. You have the physical place for an additional optical sensor that could detect when the shutter starts moving. cheers, caveman
Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
- Original Message - From: Joshua Hakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? Oh, GOD! Not Again! Christian
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
For the time, dust/moisture seals, 5 frame/sec motor, interchangeable screens and finders, high reliability shutter, well I guess what I'd say is it's direct competition for the Nikon F3. The MZ-S is aimed at the F100 class of camera, but that's only some peoples opinion. Mine is that a professional camera is what a professional uses, (nice circular logic there). So if you can find a professional using an MZ-S it's a professional camera. At 10:04 PM 6/25/03 -0400, you wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is designed by the post office, even the sleaze. O'Rourke, P.J.
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
It had a complete system, better EV range, full range of focus screens, interchangable finders, bigger viewfinder, lets you choose motor or winder or go light. I personally would not rate the MZ-S as a pro camera. I`m not knocking the MZ-S at all, I am going to get one. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Joshua Hakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back. What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? That would sure make me happy, a digital back for the LX. Too bad Pentax doesn`t support it`s only pro 35mm camera anymore. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
That`s the biggie Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.) Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)
Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Peter Alling wrote: a professional camera is what a professional uses Professionals have used about each and every camera that was ever manufactured. According to this def, all cameras are professional. cheers, caveman ;-)
Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.
What a sweet setup, I think I`ll shoot film today and digital tomorrow. Choices are good! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: OT: Leica R9/R8 digital back. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062502leicadigitalr9.asp Christian
Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-) Except the now departed Olympus OM-10 Bill
Re: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
Bill Owens wrote: OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. Except the now departed Olympus OM-10 Does not have interchangeable viewfinders. Another feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)
Re: digital backs (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:06 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: Interesting. Do you know how the backs are controlled? My guess would be that either they use X-synch from the lens to signal the back when capture should commence, or they totally bypass the shutter system of the camera and use their own 'virtual' shutter. IIRC, in the case of the Hassy, they use the X-sync. If the camera has a motor drive port, some of them also hook up to the motor drive so that you can fire the shutter from the computer. I just looked at my PhaseOne compatibility chart and --- surprise! --- Pentax 35mm lenses are on the recommended list! Doesn't say which ones, though --jc
Re: OT, and Very Silly
EEEK thats a monster range finder lol. --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, who's unsubbed for a while, sent me a couple of shots from last weekend's Pentax-less TOPDML. The band was a very good tribute to Django. I still think Jeff's Fuji 690 is freakishly large: http://www.pbase.com/jefftokayer/semi-topdml ciao, frank frank theriault wrote: It's just a raw scan from a contact, so of course it's blurry. I think, however, that the next TOPDML should meet there: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1573263size=lg As it turns out, three of us met on the weekend (Jeff, Dave CS and I), and there wasn't a Pentax in sight. Does that say something? We were at the Toronto Jazz Downtown Jazz Fest, and Jeff got the most questions/comments about his camera of the day, his Fuji 690, especially when he put on the 180mm lens - that's a very big combo, but quite impressive. He took a pic of the Texax Leica next to my little CL. It should be a hoot to look at, as his thing is monstrous next to mine! (GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTERS, I'M TALKING CAMERAS HERE! G) cheers, frank -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch -- What a senseless waste of human life -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Happy Pentax to me
first camera: polaroid, 1980 something first pentax: zx-m, may 7th 2003 Anthony Farr wrote: My first camera: Pentax SP1000 SMCT 55/2, 1975 My first Pentax: see above regards, Anthony Farr
Vs: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.)
So Pentax LX and Olympus OM-2 were the only professional cameras in the world? Actually OTF has bad points as well as good ones, probably more bad ones because it never caught on with other manufacturers. And there was the entry level OM-10. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 26. kesäkuuta 2003 4:22 Aihe: Pro talk (was Re: Leica R9/R8 digital back.) Joshua Hakin wrote: What makes the LX more pro than the MZS??? OTF metering. A feature not to be found in entry level cameras. cheers, caveman ;-)
