AW: FS: Pentax goodies
Hi I was on the list for 5 or 6 month and unsubscribed a year ago, because I hadn't the possibility to handle that lot emails a day - so I subscribe to buy or sell pentax items ! cheers Dieter (living in Switzerland !) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Cameron Hood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 21. Juli 2003 20:16 An: Pentax Betreff: RE: FS: Pentax goodies Anyone heard of Jermann Dieter? C.
Re: Hello
I think the traffic now is about 1/2 of what it used to be. :-) Welcome aboard. regards, Alan Chan I'm new to this list, and I'm not a Pentax user - YET! I've learned about this list from the good fellas at yahoo's PentaxUsers, so here I am. But when they warned me about how much traffic there is on the PDML, I didn't know they MEANT traffic! :-) I live in Amman, Jordan, where the Pentax dealer (well that's what he calls himself) SUCKS, so I still don't have a chance of putting my hand on an MZ-S yet... And don't even get me started on the one in Damascus!!! (who also happens to be the Sigma and Manfrotto dealer - go figure!) But hey, I was in Aqaba (special trade zone) 18 months ago, and the photographic shops there were swarming with Pentax's; MZ-7, MZ-3, MZ-5n... etc, but no MZ-S! And no warranty either! - gray market... And I would still have to pay customs on any electronics I buy from there on my way back to Amman, so... Well anyway, here I am, thanks! Shady _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: flash needed
- A Vivitar 283 or 285: Is there any reason not to get the 285 instead of the 283, considering that the price difference is negligible? With compact bodies like M or A series, these 2 aren't my favour. Using big & heavy flash like 283 on such compact camera is too off balance and heavy to hold for too long. - An AF280T - use auto with my MX and have a TTL flash if I get a compatible camera later. I'm sort of leaning towards this one. This is fine flash, but with 2 manual output only, I don't find it useful for any fine adjustment. - Go for the gold and consider the AF360FGZ - this is definitely the flash I can grow into, but will it work my MX? Is it worth the price considering it may be awhile before I can really use it? Full range of variable manual output is the #1 feature I look for in any flash so it takes the crown. It is not that heavy either so it is perfect, almost. Where is the Swivel feature btw? -Is there anything else I should consider? Nobody has mentioned the Weight & size issue. Really, you don't want to mount something big & heavy on MX or ME. Your fingers will complain in no time. I know mine do. For camera with good grip like Z-1p, heavy flash is okay. I have a Metz 40MZ3i which is feature rich, but just too damn off balance and heavy on MX so I use it on Z-1 only. 1) Sync speed - the MX is only 1/60; the ME Super is 1/125 but the shoe on my ME Super is a little cockeyed and I'm not sure it works. Is the 1/60 on the MX going to be limiting? 1/60s could be a concern when doing outdoor daylight fill-flash. But you can use slower film and variable manual output to compensate (usually push the flash output to the minimum side). For family shots indoor, I usually use wide angle or standard lens with ISO400, 1/30-60s, f2.8-4 so the shutter speed is a non-issue. Again, variable manual output is my favour. :-) 2) Should I consider the Sunpak 383 - it's basically the same as the Vivitar 283, but adds a swivel head (which I'm pretty sure even the 285 doesn't have) and only has 3 auto apertures (vs. 4 on the 285)? Does anyone have any experience with this flash? 3) I've got a little extra money kicking around - maybe I should spring for a Super Program and an AF280T? Would this really be the easiest solution? I guess these 2 can be answered together. If you want auto and cost is not the major concern, go for TTL flash like AF200T, AF280T or AF360FGZ (TTL is great for daylight fill-flash). If you want precise control & result, variable manual output is a must imho (especially for indoor shots without washed out faces). The best option is AF360FGZ imho (but it cannot Swivel like AF280T & AF500FTZ). As for me, I am still waiting for the swivel version of 360FGZ. regards, Alan Chan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > There have been many PDML members who have helped me a lot, > mostly by > sharing their experience, ideas and, of course, their > images, but one > stands out. He's no longer on the list but Bill Cornett gave me > extensive hand-holding to get me through my first > professional sale. It > was so long ago that many people on the list might not recognize his > name but he was a good photographer and a real class act. I > have saved > his emails and they're still worth reading from time to time. > I can never remember his name, but you're right, he was a good guy. tv
Camera Clinic at GFMtn, NC.
It is with much heavy heart that I have to say that I will not be attending the Camera Clinic. It is impossible - other than cutting my international vacation short - for me to get back in the USA other than Saturday late afternoon... All right, that and the fact that Patty told me that she would feed me grapes while in a hammock and I would be surrounded by beautiful women in bathing suits... how could I say no :-) On a serious note, I am making sure to block the appropriate dates for both GFMtn events. Hoist at least one for me in my absence. I urge all that can to attend. Hoisting a 2001 Paso Robles, California (I worked out of there for a while) Gypsy Mourvedre to the PDML, César
*ist D and flash
Ok, here's my first stupid question: Does anyone have any idea on the imminent *ist D's TTL flash ability, and does it support TTL high-speed sync? YT, Shady
Hello
Hello everyone... I'm new to this list, and I'm not a Pentax user - YET! I've learned about this list from the good fellas at yahoo's PentaxUsers, so here I am. But when they warned me about how much traffic there is on the PDML, I didn't know they MEANT traffic! :-) I live in Amman, Jordan, where the Pentax dealer (well that's what he calls himself) SUCKS, so I still don't have a chance of putting my hand on an MZ-S yet... And don't even get me started on the one in Damascus!!! (who also happens to be the Sigma and Manfrotto dealer - go figure!) But hey, I was in Aqaba (special trade zone) 18 months ago, and the photographic shops there were swarming with Pentax's; MZ-7, MZ-3, MZ-5n... etc, but no MZ-S! And no warranty either! - gray market... And I would still have to pay customs on any electronics I buy from there on my way back to Amman, so... Well anyway, here I am, thanks! Shady
The past weekend.. (my long rambling)
Still trying to catch up to the list - you just keep too busy for me. Or is it that I am keeping too busy for the list? :-) That is what at least one lurker has told me... This past weekend I was actually home - what a surprise... Yesterday I actually attended a beach volleyball tournament that I learned of the night before during the late news. I figured it was a great way to finish the film in my cameras. A good friend of mine was helping out with the tourney... in case I needed an in. I shot about seven pictures using my 645n. I did not bring another roll, so that was it for MF. Okay, I admit waiting until the women's finals to shoot the film. They were aesthetically more pleasing than the men... I had one guy pass me as I had the 120/4 on it comment about his having a disposable... But I commented that as long as the photo was had, that was what actually counted. I also finished the b&w film in the S1a. Mostly using the 85/1.9. I wish I had my, new to me, S3 to try out - with a meter no less, but I had only planned to be there a couple of hours - not over five hours. I did use my Sekonic meter to assure myself of the beach exposure. I was curious to ask the other photogs how they were shooting since I saw no external meters. I guess with print film you do not have to be more exact :-) Then I completed the roll and then shot another of ASA 100 slide film in the MZ-S. Mostly this came about as some people were interested in having me shoot a tournament in the beginning of September. I plan to send some images to them. I think they will be pleased with my work. I actually wish I had my LX to shoot. This is a camera that has the stated sealing to help with this environment. I have used the MZ-S in different harsh environments with nary a problem. I figure no one can say the LXen were out of their element :-) I also took along my Optio S. I surprised some of the coordinators with my timing with a p&s. Some of the better shots can be seen at http://cesar_abdul.fotopages.com, nothing grand, but you get the idea. It was a great day to spend photographically, especially since it was an all Pentax day. I may actually get an assignment out of this - for something I enjoy doing. As long as I can deliver what they need. Two of the organizers had a photographer taking shots. I noted that they were taking pictures where shade was readily available. They did not consider taking shots from my vantage point - one where two of the sponsors names would appear in the photos. Is this something that I notice because of a more critical eye on my part? Anyway, I had a wonderful afternoon of shooting MF, screwmount, 35mm, and digital... I found that I never shot using autofocus - actually only with the Optio because I prefocused. And it was an all Pentax day!!! No reason to the post, other than an expression of enjoyment of a phootgraphic day - even if I had a DSLR, I would still have manually focused. I have tried it before with both the Nikon D1X and D1H and found my following the action with MF more accurate. Though I will be busy up north during my trip, I look forward to shooting. I plan to travel lightly and taking my MZ-S means I do not have to carry my AF280T. The only reason I would leave my LXen behind. Happy shooting, César Panama City, Florida heading north...
Re: Awesome Photos...
Not only is he using Flash; he's got everything in a pop-up window. If you have pop-up windows blocked you'll probably just get a blank black window. -Rich On 22/Jul/2003 11:21:52, Paul wrote: > Hi Ann, > > Theres a couple of nice shots there and actualy only 6 in total. > > Its worth having flash installed and the page was quite fast to load. > > Paul > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: Awesome Photos... > > > > Albano Garcia wrote: > > > > > He is using flash. If you have flash installed you > > > should see it right > > > Regards > > > > > > Albano > > > > I just had a problem too, with a young photographer > > who I met playing Scrabble in > > Washington Square park. I have no idea how good a > > photog he is but he was > > a very nice young man and I want him to be good. HE > > warned me about FLASH and said > > it might take 5 minutes to load the page but my > > computer froze up and I had to reboot. > > Glad to hear someone else had a problem with FLASH... > > Is there a safe place to download it from? I got > > nasty warnings about it when I was > > in NEtscape 4.6 and it wouldnt work in explorer > > either. > > > > The site is www.photobandit.com > > would love to know how good the work is :) > > > > annsan > > > > > > > > > > > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Albano Garcia" > > > > Subject: Awesome Photos... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't be lazy and look them all. Excellent > > > > stuff... > > > > > http://www.erikrefner.com/ > > > > > > > > Pity he isn't so good with HTML/ Java Script. I > > > > couldn't get past his index > > > > page with either of my browsers. > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > > = > > > Albano Garcia > > > "El Pibe Asahi" > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > >
Re: A*300/4 value?
> Regarding F* over A*, the two big plusses for me are AF (of > course) and the 2 metre minimum focussing distance of the F* lens. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that - the F* focuses about twice as close as the A*, and that can be quite significant... I've had a couple occasions where I was able to get a larger critter (bird) photo with the shorter A* 200/2.8 than with the A* 300/4 simply because I was able to get closer with the 200/2.8. (With the 300/4.5, the improvement over the 300/4 would be larger, about 2:1 overall.) > The built-in hood on the A* is a bit too small for my liking (I > added a gigantic metal hood). True. The accessory hood for the A* lens (it's actually marked for the M* lens) is better than the built-in A* hood, but it's not as convenient, of course (it's a screw-on hood). Fred
Re: [OT] Good shops with used photo gear in Paris?
A noble quest. Come to think of it, I bought and MV1 on my honeymoon. . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/03 02:41PM >>> Hi there, I'm going to spend a week in Paris (it's my honeymoon - I got married yesterday :-) Anyone knows any good used Pentax gear sources there? TIA. Regards, Lukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
Re: [OT] Good shops with used photo gear in Paris?
> Now here's a guy with priorities. :-)) This is going to be our second time in Paris, so we don't have to frantically run around city looking for museums, galleries, etc. We just want to relax, and "feel" the city. But it wouldn't hurt if I bought the M 85/2 there ;-) Regards, Lukasz
Re: [OT] Good shops with used photo gear in Paris?
Now here's a guy with priorities. At 02:41 PM 7/21/03, throwing caution to the wind, =Lukasz_Kacperczyk= wrote: Hi there, I'm going to spend a week in Paris (it's my honeymoon - I got married yesterday :-) Anyone knows any good used Pentax gear sources there? TIA. Regards, £ukasz
Re: Pentax goes to war?
Well, the US Navy used a lot of Topcon Super Ds at one time. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Pentax goes to war? > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > What is within the realm of possibility for what camera it might have been will depend on the age of the sub and the procurement rules for your Navy. It would not have been an MX on a US Navy sub. > > Why not? > > >I suspect most camera bodies from the era that these would be from will > look small mounted on a periscope. FWIW, Olympus was very big in > microscopes and 35mm bodies for use on microscopes. Olympus is probably > the most likely candidate. > > If a Japanese Pentax would not be found aboard a U.S. Navy sub, why > would a Japanese Olympus be okay. > Something not revealed here. > > keith whaley >
[OT] Good shops with used photo gear in Paris?
Hi there, I'm going to spend a week in Paris (it's my honeymoon - I got married yesterday :-) Anyone knows any good used Pentax gear sources there? TIA. Regards, Łukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
RE: FS: Pentax goodies
Anyone heard of Jermann Dieter? C.
Vancouver PDML Meet
With all you guys coming to Vancouver BC in August, I would like to propose the first Vancouver PDML meet. Send me a private email, and we will try to come up with some times and places. Cameron Hood PS: Vancouver members should get in touch, too.
Re: On keeping lenses and bodies.
> > Nope, the real ones worry of things like glass flowing and the best > storage method to minimize that. > > cheers, > caveman Thats why i never took my camera into the studio when i took a glass blowing course 22 years ago.LOL Dave >
Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
> > I would not wish to single out anyone in particular, nor a > small group of people. Why? For the simple reason that it > is usually *the discussion* that informs, not the individual > replies of individuals or of a clique (such things appear > not to exist on PDML, thank goodness!). > > So thanks to y'all! > > John I tend to agree with your thoughts John,but i have leaned VERY heavly on some of those mentioned.They deserve it. :-) Dave
RE: flash needed
Hi Matt, Following flashes offer these features and more: - Philips P36TLS, I have two, I love the compactness, fits in the space of a small telelens. In USA this flash is probably marketed inder the Nissin brand name. -Philips P536CLS-X, I have one, additional it offers 5 auto apertures and TTL, works fine with my Z-1 -OSRAM BCS44 Studio, I have one, additional it has higher GN and built-in slave, nice feature too! -Metz 45CT4 and Metz 45CL4 and other Metze flashes, but they will be more expensive -Several Braun and Sunpack flashguns offer the same, but I donot know the type numbers. greetings, Jos > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Matt Bevers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:30 PM > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: flash needed > > > > On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 06:24 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: > > Buy Swivel head that goes around (almost 360 degrees)and up down of > > course. > > This will make it possible to quickly use indirect flash in many > > situations. > > Buy flash with second (fill) flash pointing forward. This will keep > > "live"(point lights) in the eyes of people when using indirect flash > > with > > the main head. > > Preferably at least 3 aperture settings (automatic of cours) > > Preferably at least guidenumber 33 at 100ISO and 50mm coverage. > > Preferably zoom head from 28mm to 80mm, bur separate adapters will do > > too. > > Preferably chargeable penlights should be allowed (is mostly the case.) > > Preferably autoshut-off or you should never forget to switch-off > > > > This all sounds great - now what flash has all these features? > > -Matt > >
Re: Pentax goes to war?
WRONG! If it was a U.S. submarine, it would be a Barbie cam, but would still cost $40,000.00 Bill - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Pentax goes to war? > Would they use a camera that is out of production or a new model? > > If it was a U.S. submarine, it would be a custom-built camera, with > electronics that can withstand 20g and the EMP of a nuclear blast. > Undoubtedly it would be a 14 mp digital. All parts would be built to > custom specifications. It would cost around $40,000. > > Joe > >
Re: What's beyond f/64?
Jostein schrieb: > > Folks, > > During the last solar eclipse, I used a 2x TC on a lens stopped down to > f/45. > > Could anyone help me out on the effective f-stop for this combination? >From stop to stop you can easily calculate with the square root of two, or approximately 1,41. Try it: 1,4 2 2,8 ... 45 64 90 128 (rounded) So it should be around 90, which is also you TC x F-stop or 2x45 = 90 ! :-) Cheers, Thomas
Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
Dave Brooks wrote: > > For fear of missing someone,here are the folk that have been helpfull to me.No particular > order: > -Tom V > -Graywolf > -Bill Casselberry > -Sid Barras(both are my IR guys) > -Herb > -Alan > -Bruce Dayton > -ex Aaron Reynolds > -The good fol;k at the TOPDMLFrank,Jeff,David,Brendan > -BR(After all i do own some Nikon gear) > -Cotty > -Both Marks(Roberts and Cassino) > -Pal > -BOZ I think I've learned something from *everyone* on the list, whether in response to my queries about gear or in general discussions. I would not wish to single out anyone in particular, nor a small group of people. Why? For the simple reason that it is usually *the discussion* that informs, not the individual replies of individuals or of a clique (such things appear not to exist on PDML, thank goodness!). So thanks to y'all! John P. S. I found when assembling a Pentax outfit was that there are several resources, set up by PDML members, displaying shots that supported the views posted on here. Now that's *particularly* useful !
Re: Pentax goes to war?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What is within the realm of possibility for what camera it might have been will > depend on the age of the sub and the procurement rules for your Navy. It would not > have been an MX on a US Navy sub. Why not? >I suspect most camera bodies from the era that these would be from will look small mounted on a periscope. FWIW, Olympus was very big in microscopes and 35mm bodies for use on microscopes. Olympus is probably the most likely candidate. If a Japanese Pentax would not be found aboard a U.S. Navy sub, why would a Japanese Olympus be okay. Something not revealed here. keith whaley
Re: On keeping lenses and bodies.
Boris Liberman wrote: Am I paranoic? Nope, the real ones worry of things like glass flowing and the best storage method to minimize that. cheers, caveman
Re: FA 28-70 f2.8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Keith, > Better to say you are planning to mount the MG/MX cameras on the FA28-70/2.8 > as the lens will overpower the camera, outweighing it by 3-5X. You will need > something else like a winder to make holding it comfortable on those small > cameras. > Regards, Bob S. Hah! You're right, Bob. I misread. Or maybe mis-stated. Along the way, the thread began mentioning both the f/2.8 and the f/4.0. I have the 4.0. Which is not to say if I found a 2.8 somewhere I might not have tried to get it! I can see why you thought the lens might overbalance the body! That's a big one! The f/4.0 version is far more reasonable in size. It's almost identical in size to my SMC Pentax-A zoom 1:4 35-70mm lens. keith whaley > > Hi Pål, > > That doesn't bother me, because I don't have an automatic Pentax. I plan > > to use this lens on my MG and my MX. Manual only. > > Ought to give me many years of use before it kicks the dust... > > I'll never be able to say it's a bad lens, so long as I don't run it on > > power...! > > Thanks for the report... keith
Re: Pentax goes to war?
It would be an in production model. In accordance with current DOD directives, COTS equipment would be used. "Ruggedness" is invoked by calling for appropriate specs. Which specifications that get invoked for a particular system/subsystem depends on how critical it is to completing a mission. A camera attached to a periscope would not have the same requirements placed on as, for example, a ship's fire control system. BR Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Would they use a camera that is out of production or a new model? > >If it was a U.S. submarine, it would be a custom-built camera, with >electronics that can withstand 20g and the EMP of a nuclear blast. >Undoubtedly it would be a 14 mp digital. All parts would be built to >custom specifications. It would cost around $40,000. > >Joe > > __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: On keeping lenses and bodies.
William Robb wrote: Keep the one you use as your "default" lens on your camera. It makes things a little quicker to make photographs. Well, that was my line of thinking until I noticed that I have *two* "default" lenses, so I eventually ended up with a second camera. But now, with all this +20 years stagnation in the prime sector and fantastic advancements of zooms, I think I'll follow Paal's advice and replace those really obsolete lens with a zoom. Anyone selling his 50-100/1.4-2.8 macro 1:1 ? cheers, caveman
What's beyond f/64?
Folks, During the last solar eclipse, I used a 2x TC on a lens stopped down to f/45. Could anyone help me out on the effective f-stop for this combination? Cheers, Jostein
Re: On keeping lenses and bodies.
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: On keeping lenses and bodies. > > I have several mechanical lenses (pure K mount) and some "electronic" > lenses (KAF mount). I wonder how should I keep them: > > 1. mounted on camera? Keep the one you use as your "default" lens on your camera. It makes things a little quicker to make photographs. > 2. set to widest/narrowest aperture and off camera? With Pentax lenses, I believe set to the smallest aperture keeps the mechanism relaxed, and also keeps the aperture blades less likely to become fouled if lubricant migrates. > > I am mostly concerned with preserving as much as possible the aperture > mechanism. > > I have one more question, this time about the body. Back in my Zenit > time I was told that the best way to keep the camera is with shutter > __not__ cocked - this prolongs the life of shutter. Now with ZX-L I > cannot force it to be uncocked. Though I suppose that with ME Super > the cocking of the film advance lever also cocks the shutter. How > should I keep either of the two? Again, I am mainly concerned with > keeping the mechanics for as long as possible in the best possible > shape. This only matters with mechanical shutter mechanisms. The theory is that by leaving the shutter uncocked, the springs that run the shutter are not under tension. With your ME Super shutter, I would leave uncocked if possible, since there is a mechanical component to the actuation (there is one mechanical speed). With the fully electronic MZ-L, it doesn't matter if the shutter is left cocked or not, as it is electrically actuated, not mechanical. > > At the moment what I am doing, since recently though, is to take off > the lenses from their respective bodies. Set them to narrowest > aperture (since my KAF lenses being on A have their aperture set to > narrowest value). Put all caps on and that's it. > > Am I paranoic? Are you? I believe your Russian heritage may make you more paranoid than most of us.:-) William Robb
Re: flash needed
>I have the chance to buy something with approval here. Please >don't ruin it for me. > >Plus, if I had tried to take a tripod inside I'm pretty sure it would >have been confiscated at the gate. > >Furthermore, I really need a flash for all those shots where I look at >the slide afterwards and wish I'd had just a little fill to get rid of >some of the shadows. Understood old boy. AF280T is the flash for you. It's superb. The tilt and swivel function is *better* than my (alternate brand) 420 EX ! Go for it. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
>I'd choose the Oscar role, if I had the choosing to do. But, what the >hell's a poppadom? It's a round crispy thing made of chick peas and fried in oil and you eat them in an Indian restaurant (spicy or plain) before the starters and main course, but usually too many so that by the time poppadoms the starters are finished you're too stuffed to eat the main course but you've had some beer or wine and it smells delicious anyway so you stuff yourself even more and regret it bitterly the next morning... Famous quote from UK politico-humourous mag Private Eye editor Ian Hislop upon losing a libel case: 'If that's justice, I am a banana'. BTW, I take it back, you are pretty cool :-) Oscar. Cheers, Felix ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
On keeping lenses and bodies.
Hi! Finally, I've been just told that my ME Super has successfully exited the CLA ($30 or so). I am going to pick it up the day after tomorrow. I have several mechanical lenses (pure K mount) and some "electronic" lenses (KAF mount). I wonder how should I keep them: 1. mounted on camera? 2. set to widest/narrowest aperture and off camera? I am mostly concerned with preserving as much as possible the aperture mechanism. I have one more question, this time about the body. Back in my Zenit time I was told that the best way to keep the camera is with shutter __not__ cocked - this prolongs the life of shutter. Now with ZX-L I cannot force it to be uncocked. Though I suppose that with ME Super the cocking of the film advance lever also cocks the shutter. How should I keep either of the two? Again, I am mainly concerned with keeping the mechanics for as long as possible in the best possible shape. At the moment what I am doing, since recently though, is to take off the lenses from their respective bodies. Set them to narrowest aperture (since my KAF lenses being on A have their aperture set to narrowest value). Put all caps on and that's it. Am I paranoic? Are you? Boris
Re: flash needed
> Ugh. I just can't make up my mind. A couple more considerations: > > 1) Sync speed - the MX is only 1/60; the ME Super is 1/125 but the shoe > on my ME Super is a little cockeyed and I'm not sure it works. Is the > 1/60 on the MX going to be limiting? > > 2) Should I consider the Sunpak 383 - it's basically the same as the > Vivitar 283, but adds a swivel head (which I'm pretty sure even the 285 > doesn't have) and only has 3 auto apertures (vs. 4 on the 285)? Does > anyone have any experience with this flash? > > 3) I've got a little extra money kicking around - maybe I should spring > for a Super Program and an AF280T? Would this really be the easiest > solution? > > Thanks for all the help so far, I'll get this figured out yet. > > -Matt Knowing what i know now(See Lons pdml help posts) i would recomend #3. As far as 1/60 sync speed,thats all i've had with the SP500 and K1000's i owned. On Tom V's suggestion,i shot my buddies wedding(Super Program with 280T) at 1/60 and 1/30 and some at 1/15 in TTL, and they all worked out great depending on how much dark background i was hoping for. I shot the B&W with a 285HV and just usingh the feet reading of the lens,set the flash.All but one turned out fine. The 280t swivels but not the 285hv,but the 285 has a number of settings you can choice from. Yes i agree,its confusing.I prbably just helped the confusion,right.:-) Dave
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Re: New Nikon D2H has same AF-patern than *istD
Hallo Pal, if you look at dpreview, you will see a lot of complains about the sharpness of the 24-120 VR. Here is an example, which is realy bad http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=5631460 regards Rüdiger >From Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Now if an F6 or an F200 turns up soon, I might be tempted along with the 24-120 VR + the 200-400 VR lenses. > >
Re: OT - Brit and proud
Hi! You really don't want me to join the most recent political debate. I happen to have pretty good knowledge of WWII war as it was taught in late 1980's in school in Moscow which also happened to be a capital of Soviet Union at that time . Bill, you're quite right about the history though. I won't be citing what I was taught about participance of US and other allies in the war. I only would cite that according to Soviet Historians the country lost 20 million of its citizens one way or another. Again, history books are written essentially with and by permission of politicians of a given country. Which means obvious biases and so on. It has to be understood that whenever the political controversy arises (I am not talking about this friendly bunch), the real truth is so deeply hidden that one has to admit to oneself that one would never know what actually happened and what were intentions behind the actions that lead to the events that one was told in the news about. Come, let us talk about Pentax or at worst Canon... Let us also keep the friendliness and mutual politeness and hopefully some tolerance too. Boris
Re: Pentax goes to war?
Would they use a camera that is out of production or a new model? If it was a U.S. submarine, it would be a custom-built camera, with electronics that can withstand 20g and the EMP of a nuclear blast. Undoubtedly it would be a 14 mp digital. All parts would be built to custom specifications. It would cost around $40,000. Joe
Re: New Nikon D2H has same AF-patern than *istD
The Nikon F90/F90s and the Z-1/Z-1p have the same shutter from Seiko. regards Rüdiger From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I think you need a "Nikon on the Inside" sticker on your camera. >No current Nikon shares shutters with a Pentax. > >BR > >Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Maybe they use the same AF system (I do believe these patterns are patented)? Pentax and Nikon share shutter units and sensor used in DSLR. > >__ >McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > >Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >
Re: flash needed
Ugh. I just can't make up my mind. A couple more considerations: 1) Sync speed - the MX is only 1/60; the ME Super is 1/125 but the shoe on my ME Super is a little cockeyed and I'm not sure it works. Is the 1/60 on the MX going to be limiting? 2) Should I consider the Sunpak 383 - it's basically the same as the Vivitar 283, but adds a swivel head (which I'm pretty sure even the 285 doesn't have) and only has 3 auto apertures (vs. 4 on the 285)? Does anyone have any experience with this flash? 3) I've got a little extra money kicking around - maybe I should spring for a Super Program and an AF280T? Would this really be the easiest solution? Thanks for all the help so far, I'll get this figured out yet. -Matt On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still put my vote in for the 283. Only difference b/w the 283 and the 285 is the swivel (with the 285) and the manual zoom head. The 283 does a 90 to 180 degree tilt. Don't forget to consider cross system compatibility. That's the main reason I went with the Vivitar rather than a Pentax dedicated flash. I've used my 283 with an LX, K1000, ME-F, Canon G2, Contax G2, Hasselblad 500 C/M, Canon Elan II, and Leica M6. It's still with me now and provides me with fill/background light when it's mounted on a light stand and bounced into an umbrella. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Matt Bevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:30:04 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: flash needed On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 06:24 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: Buy Swivel head that goes around (almost 360 degrees)and up down of course. This will make it possible to quickly use indirect flash in many situations. Buy flash with second (fill) flash pointing forward. This will keep "live"(point lights) in the eyes of people when using indirect flash with the main head. Preferably at least 3 aperture settings (automatic of cours) Preferably at least guidenumber 33 at 100ISO and 50mm coverage. Preferably zoom head from 28mm to 80mm, bur separate adapters will do too. Preferably chargeable penlights should be allowed (is mostly the case.) Preferably autoshut-off or you should never forget to switch-off This all sounds great - now what flash has all these features? -Matt mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
There see i new i forgot some.LOL -William Robb -Pat White -Chris Brogden
Re: Help with PUG
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Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
> I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more > experienced (though not likely older) folks. > > Who have you learned the most from here? > -Lon > For fear of missing someone,here are the folk that have been helpfull to me.No particular order: -Tom V -Graywolf -Bill Casselberry -Sid Barras(both are my IR guys) -Herb -Alan -Bruce Dayton -ex Aaron Reynolds -The good fol;k at the TOPDMLFrank,Jeff,David,Brendan -BR(After all i do own some Nikon gear) -Cotty -Both Marks(Roberts and Cassino) -Pal -BOZ Thanks Marnie,for including me in your list.Must have answered a quiry instead of asking my many>LOL I'm sure there are a few others that have helped me immensly since 2001.Sorry if i forgot to name you. I can honestly say that my photographty jas improved 100% since subscribing.Mostly relearning things i forgot when i did not shoot a whole lot in the late 80's early 90's. I really enjoy the film issues,who like what and why.I always thought Kodak Max400 was my only choice as a non pro.LOL Dave Brooks
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> > Get a Mac. > > Get a life. ... Get a job. Get a career. Get a family. Get a $%^& big television... Mishka
Re: OT - Brit and proud
The amazing thing about this recent discussion about European history, circa 19-Pre Pentax, is how different the views are depending on whether you live in Europe, with first hand knowledge of history, or America, with at best, second hand knowledge. History books and Encyclopedias are written by the victors, in language that makes them look as good a possible. It has always been this way, and is why much of history books and encyclopedias cannot really be trusted to tell more than a biased version, expressing some facts, and forgetting others, giving some opinions as truth, ignoring others as lies. Can we get back to bitching about the *ist lens mount now please? William Robb
Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
Damn vowel substitutions. Alan Chan wrote: Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. That's nice. :-) Oh wait! That wasn't me, was it? Must be the Mandarin version of myself. LOL. regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: OT - Brit and proud
Hans Imglueck wrote: [a bunch of garbage I won't repeat] You give credit to Russia for defeating Hitler, rather than Britain and the US. Interesting. First, it was the USSR, not Russia, and at that time it was led by a Georgian, not a Russian. Second, the USSR did not come to Europe's aid voluntarily. It made a separate peace with Nazi Germany to be able to take a big piece of Poland. Germany broke the treaty by invading The Soviet Union, leaving it no choice but to enter the war on the side of the allies. American aid was vital in helping the SU stay in the war, long before Normandy. The US entered the war to free Europe and restore the countries to independence and democracy. The USSR entered the war to defend itself and to grab land in Eastern Europe, including East Germany. After the war, the US gave great financial assistance to rebuild Europe, including West Germany, and left western Europe to govern itself. The USSR imposed its will on Eastern Europe, and enslaved millions of people for several decades. If you can't see the difference, then you don't want to.
RE: Help with PUG
Are you using a popup killer? -- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085 > -Original Message- > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help with PUG > > > Only on some websites. This is what I can't understand. > If I go far enough > back in the archives of PUG, and find a page with one photo > on it, I can go > forward or back and see all of those. However, most PUG > pages only give me > a page with all the names, but no photos, or any indication > that I can view > them. > > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:37 AM > Subject: RE: Help with PUG > > > > Bill, is this happening on just the PUG or on all > websites? Sounds to me > > like your browser might not be letting you view images. > Check in the > > options for your browser and look for the option to "view > images". Hope > > that helps. > > > > Amita > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:19 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Help with PUG > > > > > > > > > I recently upgraded (?) from Windoze ME to XP. Now when I > > > try to access the PUG, all I get is the names and no photos. > > > If I go to the "looking for a particular photographer", > > > everything is okay. It's just the galleries that I cannot > > > seem to access. > > > > > > Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: flash needed
ahhh.. I'm using them mainly for background and fill flash. There's a couple neat little items: 1) Wein Pnut Slave - these fit into the female pc connector on the Vivitar 283. Once a flash goes off around the Pnut slave, it triggers the 283. 2) Hakuma Hot Shoe Adapter - this thing is a standard screw in hotshoe that can be mounted on a light stand. Attach the 283 to the light stand and then aim the 283 into the umbrella. 3) No Name Brand 25ft sync cord - I attach this to the other 283. The results? http://www.usefilm.com/image/139808.html That was taken with just the 2 283's bounced into umbrellas. http://www.usefilm.com/image/144801.html That was using the 2 283's as fill/background flash while using a Dynalite 400 UniJr as the main light. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:23:18 US/Eastern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: flash needed I have the 283,285hv and the af280t.The later works very well with the Super Program,thanks to Tom V's personal wedding instructions.Although i did forget to drop it. David C-S. How are you setting up your 283/285 with the umbrella,cable adaptors etc. Curious to learn studio/portrait lighting still. Dave Brooks mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: flash needed
> > So, I need to buy a flash. > > I've got an MX and an ME Super for right now, but I could see myself > getting a Super Program for flash use, or even an AF Pentax by the end > of the year. My question is, what do I get? > > - A Vivitar 283 or 285: Is there any reason not to get the 285 instead > of the 283, considering that the price difference is negligible? > > - An AF280T - use auto with my MX and have a TTL flash if I get a > compatible camera later. I'm sort of leaning towards this one. > -Matt Matt. Just on my own limited flash use,i would recomend either the 285 or the af280t.The 280 works very well with the SuperProgram,which is a great camera.If i decide to do more MF work than 35mm work,the SP will be one of the few 35mm i keep. I use the 285 with the D1 and works well.I take indoor horse photos with it in a very dark arena,and i get usable shots at 25 feet from moving subjects. I think the 280 used is about the same as the 285 new.IIRK. Dave
Re: flash needed
> > I've used my 283 with an LX, K1000, ME-F, Canon G2, Contax G2, Hasselblad > 500 C/M, Canon Elan II, and Leica M6. > > It's still with me now and provides me with fill/background light when it's > mounted on a light stand and bounced into an umbrella. > > Cheers, > Dave I have the 283,285hv and the af280t.The later works very well with the Super Program,thanks to Tom V's personal wedding instructions.Although i did forget to drop it. David C-S. How are you setting up your 283/285 with the umbrella,cable adaptors etc. Curious to learn studio/portrait lighting still. Dave Brooks
Re: flash needed
I still put my vote in for the 283. Only difference b/w the 283 and the 285 is the swivel (with the 285) and the manual zoom head. The 283 does a 90 to 180 degree tilt. Don't forget to consider cross system compatibility. That's the main reason I went with the Vivitar rather than a Pentax dedicated flash. I've used my 283 with an LX, K1000, ME-F, Canon G2, Contax G2, Hasselblad 500 C/M, Canon Elan II, and Leica M6. It's still with me now and provides me with fill/background light when it's mounted on a light stand and bounced into an umbrella. Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Matt Bevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:30:04 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: flash needed On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 06:24 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: > Buy Swivel head that goes around (almost 360 degrees)and up down of > course. > This will make it possible to quickly use indirect flash in many > situations. > Buy flash with second (fill) flash pointing forward. This will keep > "live"(point lights) in the eyes of people when using indirect flash > with > the main head. > Preferably at least 3 aperture settings (automatic of cours) > Preferably at least guidenumber 33 at 100ISO and 50mm coverage. > Preferably zoom head from 28mm to 80mm, bur separate adapters will do > too. > Preferably chargeable penlights should be allowed (is mostly the case.) > Preferably autoshut-off or you should never forget to switch-off > This all sounds great - now what flash has all these features? -Matt mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: flash needed
Hi, Matt wrote: > we could shoot in the press room. Unfortunately, it was absurdly dark in there, > and I probably didn't get many usable shots. and > - Is there anything else I should consider? AF400T. So much power they will think it's Doomsday, compatible with all SLR Pentax cameras in one mode or another, swivels like a ball turret on a B24, TTL on all Pentax cameras that support it (up to now) and heavy enough to use for self defence. Not to mention a considerable (for a flash) array of accessories. What a bargain these are nowadays.. mike
RE: Pentax goes to war?
What is within the realm of possibility for what camera it might have been will depend on the age of the sub and the procurement rules for your Navy. It would not have been an MX on a US Navy sub. I suspect most camera bodies from the era that these would be from will look small mounted on a periscope. FWIW, Olympus was very big in microscopes and 35mm bodies for use on microscopes. Olympus is probably the most likely candidate. BR mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Let's see if we can do this without being insulting to each other > >Last night I saw some film of the inside of one of our nuclear subs. > >Attached to the periscope, just above the eyepiece, was a small, chrome >35mm camera body. > >Either an ME, MX type Pentax, an OM Olympus or what? I don't think >there are any Nikon bodies that fit the bill and it didn't look like a >Canon. Obviously not a rangefinder. > >Infuriatingly, there were no more shots of the periscope that showed the >body - I hadn't been really paying attention up to then. > >Anyone got a clue? > >My money would be on the MX. > >mike > > __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: OT - Brit and proud
From: "Hans Imglueck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Let me give you a "what would have been, if ... " story: > > - 1937: British and French troops invade Germany. Hitler is killed. > - Almost all Germans are thinking: "Hitler was not a wrong guy. What > the hell, gives them the right to remove him." This opinion is shared > by the Austrian, Italian, Spain, Russian and US. Bullpucky! It is not yet 1938 and Hitler has not even mobilized his military Nobody's going to start a war at this point. Iraq, on the other hand, invaded and occupied Kiwait, therefore: this is Bull, > - 1939: Another national party gets the total power in Germany. The > production of weapons is increased dramatically. this is Bull, > - 1941: Some German scientists invent the posibilty to built an atomic > bomb. this is Bull, > - 1944: Germany starts the war by laying Paris and Moskow in ruins. and this is Bull. > - 1945: War is over. Germany and its allied nations rules Europe, Asia and Africa owning almost 90% of all world wide oil reserves... Further, when the US finishes a war, we do not leave the country in a power vacuum. Following WWII, we ran Japan for some seven years specifically preventing the above garbage. I don't remember offhand how long the Allies ran Germany. According to the Encyclopedia, in May of 1938, Hitler mobilized his military to annex Czechoslovakia's German-speaking Sudetenland -- but halted when Britain, France, and Stalin's Soviet Union threatened war if he did so. Hitler backed down, but he wouldn't let the matter rest. On September 15, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain visited Hitler to discuss a "peaceful solution" to the Sudetenland question. In a followup meeting on September 22, Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to annex the Sudeten region. But Hitler wasn't satisfied! He wanted German troops to enter the Sudetenland at once -- something Chamberlain refused to allow. With war looking imminent, on September 23, the Czechoslovakian military mobilized to defend against Nazi Germany. Poland then made its move. On September 27, seeing that Czechoslovakia was in dire straits with Nazi troops readying to invade, Poland issued an ultimatum, demanding that Czechoslovakia hand over its Tesin (Teschen) district. Two days later, on September 29, France, Britain, Germany, and Italy signed the Munich Agreement. It allowed Hitler to have the Sudetenland in exchange for him agreeing to "guarantee" Czechoslovakia's borders -- but only after Poland and Hungary had taken their shares! Britain and France not only sold out Czechoslovakia to Hitler -- but to Poland and Hungary too! The sellout appears in Article 1 of the Munich Agreement. According to the Encyclopedia [Vol. 1, p. 8]: "As Article 1 of the agreement put it, 'when the question of the Polish and Hungarian minorities in Czechoslovakia has been settled, Germany and Italy will each give a similar guarantee to Czechoslovakia'. Poland had been first to share in the spoils. After an ultimatum from Warsaw on September 27, 1938, Czechoslovakia had ceded to Poland the district of Tesin (Teschen) -- an area of some 625 square miles with a population of 230,000 people." After signing the Munich Agreement, Chamberlain flew back to Britain, declaring that the Agreement meant "peace in our time!" But it was not to be. Poland took its piece of Czechoslovakia first. Then Hungary helped itself to some of Czechoslovakia's Sub-Carpathian Ruthenia region. Hungary said it had been stolen from them after World War One by the 1920 Treaty of Trianon. To make matters worse, even while it was being dismembered, Czechoslovakia was contending with demands for independence from its Slovakian region. And so, now trying to appease its own citizens, Czechoslovakia agreed to grant more autonomy to Slovakia, and to hyphenate the country's name, so that it became Czecho-Slovakia. Abandoned by its allies and threatened with civil war, Czecho-Slovakia was unable to fight its neighbors. Instead, it allowed Germany, Hungary, and Poland to bite off pieces, hoping they'd eventually all be satisfied and go away. But it was not to be. According to the Encyclopedia [Vol. 1, p. 8]: "Having appeased the Polish and Hungarian demands in accordance with the Munich Agreement, Czecho-Slovakia was now entitled to ask for the promised guarantees from Italy and Germany. On November 5, Chvalkovsky raised the point in a discussion with Dr. Hencke, German chargé d'affaires in Prague, only to be dismissed with the reply: 'The question of the guarantee will not arise until the new frontiers have been defined in detail by the commissions.'" But instead of guaranteeing the new borders, Hitler took advantage of Czecho-Slovakia's internal divisions. He encouraged Slovakia to declare independence, so he could more easily take the remaining Czech region. As enticement, in March 1939, Hitler promised Slovakia that if it declare
Re: flash needed
On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 06:24 AM, Jos from Holland wrote: Buy Swivel head that goes around (almost 360 degrees)and up down of course. This will make it possible to quickly use indirect flash in many situations. Buy flash with second (fill) flash pointing forward. This will keep "live"(point lights) in the eyes of people when using indirect flash with the main head. Preferably at least 3 aperture settings (automatic of cours) Preferably at least guidenumber 33 at 100ISO and 50mm coverage. Preferably zoom head from 28mm to 80mm, bur separate adapters will do too. Preferably chargeable penlights should be allowed (is mostly the case.) Preferably autoshut-off or you should never forget to switch-off This all sounds great - now what flash has all these features? -Matt
Re: flash needed
Considering the 285 has ratio control built in, plus the varifocal lens both of which cost extra for the 283, go for the 285. But, be warned they are both big and heavy. The also have a true GN of 80 (100ASA) which is a bit more powerful then the other flashs you mention. 280 is a nice unit. But requires the expensive Pentax cords for everything. It is/was built by Sunpak who made basically the same flash in the 422/433 (you need the 433 if you want TTL, I think). Sunpak cords and accessories are much cheaper than the Pentax ones (alas they have different plugs on the flash end). The 360 is newer than I have much knowledge of, but I think most of the features require a very new camera (MZ-S?) to use. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Matt Bevers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: flash needed > So, this weekend I was down in Washington, DC, taking a bunch of > photos. My brother works for the Secret Service, so he got us a tour > of the the White House. We weren't allowed to take photos inside the > West Wing (we saw the oval office and cabinet room), but we could shoot > in the press room. Unfortunately, it was absurdly dark in there, and I > probably didn't get many usable shots. > > This brings us to the point of the message. In the midst of taking > photos in the near dark, my wife says to me, "I think you need to buy a > flash." > > So, I need to buy a flash. > > I've got an MX and an ME Super for right now, but I could see myself > getting a Super Program for flash use, or even an AF Pentax by the end > of the year. My question is, what do I get? > > - A Vivitar 283 or 285: Is there any reason not to get the 285 instead > of the 283, considering that the price difference is negligible? > > - An AF280T - use auto with my MX and have a TTL flash if I get a > compatible camera later. I'm sort of leaning towards this one. > > - Go for the gold and consider the AF360FGZ - this is definitely the > flash I can grow into, but will it work my MX? Is it worth the price > considering it may be awhile before I can really use it? > > - Is there anything else I should consider? > > Sorry for the long post, but I'm pretty much lost when it comes to > flashes and I can use any help I can get. > > -Matt >
