Re: On how *istD handles.

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis
 
 I wish the Av wheel was on the front of the camera to be operated by the
 index finger with the Tv wheel on the back, operated by the thumb.

Hmm. So that would be at least eight different variations; Av or Tv on the
front wheel, plus choice of direction for each of the two controls. I think
I understand why Pentax decided to stick with just one configuration.



Re: Wireless flash and off camera clips, grips, pips, tips, salsa dips

2003-10-26 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Ryan Lee a écrit:
Salut Michel!

Yep that link's better. I just checked it out- I must say I don't understand
anything on that page, but for the record, the stuff you made looks really
neat. The clip for the flash looks metal though.. is it?
Yes it's an old full metal clip. There is no problem when using the 
flash as slave or P-TTL.
By Power Tanslator:
...
To use a cordless flash slave it is necessary to use a steady support:
Trick:  I achieved a support  multifunctions  while screwing a claw of 
recuperation flash on a tablet of PVC:
- to put: it maintains the horizontal flash put for example on a piece 
of furniture.
- fast fixing: under the tablet a profile of trapezoidal section 
compliant to my tripod (DIN 4503) built in several thickness of PVC 
counter glued.
- for standard tripod: a 1/4 hole in the thickness of the profile in V.
The clip is metallic, it is not necessary that contacts are isolated.
...

Michel




Screw Mount lenses

2003-10-26 Thread Francis Ebury
I came across this discussion group during a search. I was hoping that 
there were a few users of the Super-Takumar lenses, but can't find anything 
much in the archives.

Could anyone kindly point me in the right direction.

Regards



Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290

2003-10-26 Thread Francis Ebury
This is a really useful tip. I'm downloading 'The Bat' as I write this, but 
would appreciate your comments when you have evaluated it.

Regards

At 01:45 AM 26/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:01:18 +0100
From: Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: Digital Camera Lens Optimization
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Keith wrote:-

 I found Becky in the message header and just surmised, but have never
 heard of it!
 What it is?

 keith
Becky is email software and I have been using it for a number of years.

It has good filtering capabilities which allows me to create a good
number of folders to accomodate all the messages I receive from
approximately 22 mailing lists and Yahoo groups. Any incoming emails are
then delivered to the various folders.
In addition it allows me to check messages held on my ISP's mail server
prior to downloading, so all the junk messages are marked on the server
for deletion prior to me downloading the genuine email messages.
Another decent email program is The Bat which has similar functions to
Becky, I've just installed the The Bat for a 30-day trial.
Harry



RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290

2003-10-26 Thread Bucky
Mailwasher is my choice.  Same sort of thing, but it lets you 'bounce'
spam - those sending spam messages think it never reached you.

-Original Message-
From: Francis Ebury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25-Oct-03 23:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290


This is a really useful tip. I'm downloading 'The Bat' as I write this, but
would appreciate your comments when you have evaluated it.

Regards


At 01:45 AM 26/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:01:18 +0100
From: Harold Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: Digital Camera Lens Optimization
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Keith wrote:-

  I found Becky in the message header and just surmised, but have never
  heard of it!
  What it is?
 
  keith

Becky is email software and I have been using it for a number of years.

It has good filtering capabilities which allows me to create a good
number of folders to accomodate all the messages I receive from
approximately 22 mailing lists and Yahoo groups. Any incoming emails are
then delivered to the various folders.

In addition it allows me to check messages held on my ISP's mail server
prior to downloading, so all the junk messages are marked on the server
for deletion prior to me downloading the genuine email messages.

Another decent email program is The Bat which has similar functions to
Becky, I've just installed the The Bat for a 30-day trial.

Harry




Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis
 
 Mailwasher is my choice.  Same sort of thing, but it lets you 'bounce'
 spam - those sending spam messages think it never reached you.

Not true, usually.  The normal result of mailwasher (or other post-
delivery anti-spam tools) is that the poor innocent third party whose
mail identity is being spoofed in the envelope data finds that his
mailbox fills up with spam bounces and rejection messages.

The best thing to do with spam is to silently discard it.  In the
vanishingly remote case that you can actually determine a valid
email address for the sender the chances that anyone actually
reads any bounce messages sent to that address is basically zero.



Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290

2003-10-26 Thread Dag T
På søndag, 26. oktober 2003, kl. 08:12, skrev John Francis:

Mailwasher is my choice.  Same sort of thing, but it lets you 'bounce'
spam - those sending spam messages think it never reached you.
Not true, usually.  The normal result of mailwasher (or other post-
delivery anti-spam tools) is that the poor innocent third party whose
mail identity is being spoofed in the envelope data finds that his
mailbox fills up with spam bounces and rejection messages.
The best thing to do with spam is to silently discard it.  In the
vanishingly remote case that you can actually determine a valid
email address for the sender the chances that anyone actually
reads any bounce messages sent to that address is basically zero.
Even better:  Be careful where you leave your address on the internet.  
And if you want to leave it some risky place, make a new address 
especially assign to this.  Then at least your private addresses are 
left spam free.  I´ve got 5 addresses getting almost no spam at all, 
including this one, but gave up one a couple of months ago because of 
spam.

DagT



Re: Kodak and Digital

2003-10-26 Thread Peter Jordan
Does anyone know where Kodak process Kodachrome sent to their UK lab?

I can remember a good few years ago that they closed down processing in
Wimbledon and moved it somewhere else, (France?).

I'm not a regular Kodachrome user, but fired off a few reels last week, and
sent them away. They are taking forever to come back (10 days) and the one
roll that has come back has a Postage Paid Lausanne label on it.

Peter



- Original Message -
From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:07 PM
Subject: Kodak and Digital


Kodak is going to close the complete photolab in Waddinxveen in the
Nederlands, and 116 people will lose their job. This all because of the
maassive move of consumers from film based photography to digital.
The diminishing sales on film is compensated by the increase of digital
Kodak products, like camera's and a sort of counters at supermarkets and
photostores, where consumers can create prints from the pictures they
made using the camera build into their cellular (=mobile) phone.
The photolab work for the Nederlands will now be done from the Kodak lab
in Belgiom (Oostende).
Kodak will vclose over 20 of the 47 labs in Europe.
In the past summer Kodak already announced they will free up money by
lowering the dividend in order to improve their digital business.
--
Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I am putting my reply in between the lines...

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:20:34 -0600
 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me, the function of a digital camera, whether an SLR or 
otherwise, is to
take advantage of the new photofinishing technology.
Scanning film for digital printing is, to my mind, a fools endeavor. 
I suppose that in a sense of ultimate technological solution this is 
correct. I still maintain that buying a second hand Epson 2450 for 
$120 and scanning my negatives and slides, and finally, post 
processing them for digital printing later is way better __for me__ 
than anything else except perhaps trying to save money for *istD. 
Furthermore, I think that shelling out, say $500 for 5MP digicam is 
not really a solution.

Just yesterday, my wife's co-worker came with her little 3MP digicam 
full of pictures she brought from Spain. Almost all of her attempts to 
shoot architecture failed miserably, partly because of the lens 
restrictions...

The process of scanning negatives creates more problems than it solves.
Please bear in mind that this is coming from someone who is pretty 
handy on the darkroom.
I suppose it was the analog darkroom you meant grin... I am yet to 
shoot my second TMAX so that I can try film processing myself... You 
know, I've been asked to bring two films so that chemicals, time, and 
effort would not be wasted...

Virtually all new photo lab equipment is using digital printing 
technology.
So far, I have found the combination of a good digital camera and 
digital to
photo paper printing to be far superior to anything I have been able 
to get
via scanned negatives or slides.
The entire industry is going in this direction.
This is the impression that seems to be coming onto us from all over 
the place. 

Kodak has indicated that they are cutting back on film RD, and have, 
in fact, announced that their consumer and professional film divisions 
are being combined.
It could be that for a short period of time then, consumer films of 
Kodak would become somewhat better because of involvement of 
professional division people grin... But then of course, it will 
decline surely, and even may be not so slowly...


Digital does look different from film, of this there is no doubt. 
Whether it is better or worse, I have no opinion.
It's just different. I like it for some things, for others, I prefer 
film.
I wish others had similar opinions. But then traffic would be much 
lighter on PDML grin.

I tend to agree with Mr. Robb g here. I do hope however that 35 mm 
b/w film will survive. 

For me, digital will most likely replace 35mm colour negative film 
for just about everything I shoot neg film for, and I expect 
I am in a very large demographic in this regard.
If only digital of acceptable quality were more affordable... Then we 
would be experiencing explosion of that very demographic grin...

For most of my needs, the 6mp sensor is just fine, thank you very 
much, and I am quite pleased that the ist D suits me so well.
On my level, I've been seeing wonderful, artful photographs made even 
with 3MP cameras. Indeed, first comes the photographer, next comes the 
lens, and then comes the camera. 

Ultimately, I am putting this message I've just answered to my 
knowledge base...

Enjoy! (film while you can, and digital if you have it VBG)

Boris

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Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Except if Canon fixes its exposure problem it means the whole front on 
digital technology moves forward.

Can someone please tell me what this 'exposure problem' is?




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Re: OT: Ebay

2003-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Actually Cotty, I just double-checked with myself.. He confirmed he
*doesn't*. But he promised he'd learn if you bought him one ;)

Believe me  - you do. You just don't realise it!



Cheers,
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Kodachrome's UK processing (was Re: Kodak and Digital

2003-10-26 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 26, 2003, 7:45:50 AM, you wrote:

 Does anyone know where Kodak process Kodachrome sent to their UK lab?

 I can remember a good few years ago that they closed down processing in
 Wimbledon and moved it somewhere else, (France?).

 I'm not a regular Kodachrome user, but fired off a few reels last week, and
 sent them away. They are taking forever to come back (10 days) and the one
 roll that has come back has a Postage Paid Lausanne label on it.

they moved it to Lausanne, in Switzerland only about 2 years ago. I've had
perfectly acceptable results from them. The only disadvantage, as you point
out, has been the turn-round time. When I had a lot of film to process I
used to take to the Wimbledon lab in person and talk it through with
the people who did the work. When they moved the operation to the land
of chocolate and the cuckoo clock I had about 70 rolls of film I
wanted to process. Fortunately I was given the name of one of their
customer service people, Florence something-or-other, who was
extremely helpful. She relayed my instructions to the processors and
the work was done as requested.

My guess is that for people who never had the luxury of being able to go to
Wimbledon, the move to Switzerland won't make much difference.

The good news is that Agfa Scala processing has been brought back from
France to London. It had been moved over there after Joe's Basement
went into liquidation, but is now back here.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #1290

2003-10-26 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 26, 2003, 6:20:33 AM, you wrote:

 This is a really useful tip. I'm downloading 'The Bat' as I write this, but 
 would appreciate your comments when you have evaluated it.

A lot of people on this list use The Bat!, including me. It's very
good.

--
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Screw Mount lenses

2003-10-26 Thread brooksdj
 I came across this discussion group during a 
search. I 
was hoping that 
 there were a few users of the Super-Takumar lenses, but can't find anything 
 much in the archives.
 
 Could anyone kindly point me in the right direction.
 
 Regards
 

   Hi Francis.
There are a number of people on this list with M42 experience and ownwership(my self) 
and
are very 
willing to answer questions.
I belong to :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/M42
and
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/spotmatic
all free,just sign up.

There you can search archives or ask questions too.

Dave




Re: Wireless flash and off camera clips, grips, pips, tips, salsa dips

2003-10-26 Thread Ryan Lee
Thanks for the translation Michel.. I'm sure all the information will come
in handy one day. I don't think I'm going to venture into making my own just
yet though, but I might sometime down the road.
Cheers,
Ryan


From: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Ryan Lee a écrit:
  Salut Michel!
 
  Yep that link's better. I just checked it out- I must say I don't
understand
  anything on that page, but for the record, the stuff you made looks
really
  neat. The clip for the flash looks metal though.. is it?
 Yes it's an old full metal clip. There is no problem when using the
 flash as slave or P-TTL.
 By Power Tanslator:
 ...
 To use a cordless flash slave it is necessary to use a steady support:
 Trick:  I achieved a support  multifunctions  while screwing a claw of
 recuperation flash on a tablet of PVC:
 - to put: it maintains the horizontal flash put for example on a piece
 of furniture.
 - fast fixing: under the tablet a profile of trapezoidal section
 compliant to my tripod (DIN 4503) built in several thickness of PVC
 counter glued.
 - for standard tripod: a 1/4 hole in the thickness of the profile in V.
 The clip is metallic, it is not necessary that contacts are isolated.
 ...

 Michel




Re: OT: Ebay

2003-10-26 Thread Ryan Lee
Just as you know you've set aside some money in your budget to post me one
so I can prove you're correct ;) And I'm sure you realise it- and will act
on it first thing tomorrow. When I snap my fingers, you will awaken. 3, 2,
1..

Snap,
Ryan



From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Actually Cotty, I just double-checked with myself.. He confirmed he
 *doesn't*. But he promised he'd learn if you bought him one ;)

 Believe me  - you do. You just don't realise it!




Re: Screw Mount lenses

2003-10-26 Thread Rfsindg
Some here have screwmount lenses and are pretty knowledgeable, plus this is a 
friendly list.  Ashai Pentax Historical Society run by Dario 
Bonnanza(spelling) in Italy is probably the best source.  

I've been trying to collect some SMC Takumar screwmount lenses and the ones I 
have used thus far are very good and feel wonderful in use.  Tactile 
photography...

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I came across this discussion group during a search. I was hoping that 
  there were a few users of the Super-Takumar lenses, but can't find 
anything 
  much in the archives.
  
  Could anyone kindly point me in the right direction.



RE: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 25/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 Except if Canon fixes its exposure problem it means the
 whole front on
 digital technology moves forward.

 Can someone please tell me what this 'exposure problem' is?

I don't have any exposure problems either. On average I have about the
same success ratio as I had with the MZ-S, which has a *very* good
meter. I'm talking ambient metering here.

Digital TTL flash metering is not as consistent, but it's a different
sort of ttl (not true ttl) and I hear this complaint from a lot of
Nikon and Canon dslr users employing various models.

tv






Re: Fascinating - a must read!

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
Yes, Brain, I think so. It's Sunday and we missed church again? (INSANE GRIN)

Cotty wrote:
On 24/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:


The other camera is for my daughter's 19th birthday.  We visited her last 
weekend in college and she complained about the price of developing her
prints in 
Washington DC.  She is my best photographer and enjoys taking pictures.


Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?

Cheers,
  Cotty
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you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: What do the photo labs print with?

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
Actually, I think, most modern commercial labs use some variation of laser 
printing (and not a very high res one, either) on photographic paper these days 
(Fuji Frontier, etc).

John Francis wrote:

This one time, at band camp, tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Photo labs do every kind of printing.

What are you talking about?
What type of printing machines do they use?
dye sublimation or other?


Other, usually.  They don't use printers - they use light-sensitive
photographic paper, enlargers, and chemicals, just as people have been
doing for decades.

--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: FA 50/2.8 Macro

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
Then there is your problem.

You have a FF (flat-field) lens that is intended for glass mounted slides. A CF 
(curved-field) lens is for regular slide mounts where the film tends to curl a 
bit. Easiest way to check this out is to buy a small box of glass slide mounts 
and remount some of your slides in them and see if that does not fix the problem.

If it does then your choice is to glass mount your favorites, or to find a CF 
lenses. A note to the wise, if you are serious about projecting your slides the 
glass mounts are the better way to go as the slides will last longer, and the 
images will be sharper. If you are just using the projector to view proofs then 
go with a CF lens as it will be easier and cheaper in the long run.

Ramesh Kumar wrote:

its FF lens
Ramesh
--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the Kodak lens say CF or FF on it?
--
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http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: Vic's New Website

2003-10-26 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Webster falls and church pics are impressive.

Ramesh
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys, threw some images up on a new website. Much
 better viewing than my 
 old (very slow one)
 If you're looking for something to do, check 'em out
 here
 http://groups.msn.com/TheSpiritofNature/shoebox.msnw
 


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RE: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread gsinos

And of course, in a post to the thousands of members of PDML, I misspelled 
the name of my own website.

It is:  http://www.georgesphotos.net

The .com flavor is registered to some other George with photos still under 
construction.

I edited the quote below to avoid additional confusion.  

See you later, gs


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--
 --
 
 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:16:40 -0600
 From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: *istD output?
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
 
 I can't get to the gallery.  Seems that your web page is missing a bit.
 
 Len
  * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: George Sinos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: *istD output?
  what effect all of that will have on the files.  Here's the 
  link-  http://www.georgesphotos.net  They are in the Photography 
  Gallery.  You'll also find a few full size Optio S samples 
  there. 
 



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 Except if Canon fixes its exposure problem it means the whole front on 
 digital technology moves forward.
 
 Can someone please tell me what this 'exposure problem' is?

Having to use Canon lenses for making exposures.
You seem to have found a work around.

Har!

Actually I only have one Canon lens.

As well as two Sigmas, a Tokina, and two Pentaxes in EOS.

Three Pentaxes, two Tokinas in KA.




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Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

to capture Newton's favourite apple plucker.

hey watch who yer insultin there!




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Re: Expensive Time-Sink

2003-10-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Subject: OT: Expensive Time-Sink



 I've got four film holders containing eight sheets of HP5+,
 and need to come up with a way to pay for developing.  Wh!

The nice thing about sheet film is it can be tray processed.
Pick up some ID-11, or some such, and fixer, and three 8x10 print trays, and
you are pretty well set to go.
I say 8x10 trays because you can dilute the developer quite a bit, and still
have enough actual developer to do the job, but extend the time out enough
so that uneven development won't be an issue.
Congratulations on the new format.
4x5 is lots of fun.

William Robb



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Then a few minutes ago I happened to catch an item on BBC News 24
about recharging mobile (cell) phone batteries by running them under
the tap (faucet). It seems that the boffins (scientists) in the back
room (laboratory) have found a way of harnessing power from water squirted
through tiny holes (subminituaristical aperturalized devices). So maybe my
waterwheel idea isn't quite as hare-brained (Homer Simpson) as it might
appear.

Could be done while making the odd cup of teaearlgreyhot.




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Re: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 14:05 America/New_York, George Sinos wrote:

Has anyone, sent an email to the makers of Capture One 
http://www.phaseone.com, encouraging them to add the *istD to 
supported cameras for their raw conversion software?  They've said 
they are watching the market to determine if it makes the list or not.
I think it'll be more effective if we all gather en masse at the 
PhaseOne booth at Photo-Plus holding our *ist-D's. :-)

--jc



RE: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread Len Paris
I can't get to the gallery.  Seems that your web page is missing a bit.

Len
 * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
 

 -Original Message-
 From: George Sinos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: *istD output?
 what effect all of that will have on the files.  Here's the 
 link-  http://www.georgesphotos.com  They are in the Photography 
 Gallery.  You'll also find a few full size Optio S samples 
 there. 




Re: M42

2003-10-26 Thread John Dallman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Francis Ebury) wrote:

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/M42

Having just joined it, that's ClubM42

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 26, 2003, 3:47:49 PM, you wrote:

  For me, the
 _major_ drawback to digital is the dependence on batteries, as I
 sometimes find myself in situations where a purely mechanical device is
 a better option.  Can't see that one being solved.

well, what with recent breakthroughs in nanotechnology you never know.

If you want something that works, rain or shine, then we need to
combine the past with the present, and shrink it.

A small waterwheel attached to the side of your camera could generate
plenty of power during a rainstorm; if the weather was dull and overcast
then the sails of the wheel could catch the slightest breeze, and generate
plenty of power that way. And of course in f/16 conditions the bright
sunshine would be collected on the sails which are, of couse, fitted
with teeny-weeny, but immensely efficient, solar panels.

Finally, if the weather simply won't play ball, then you can use gravity.
The centre of your camera must include a yo-yo mechanism and some sort of
power exchange device, like a dynamo, attached to the yo-yo spindle
to capture Newton's favourite apple plucker.

Sadly, though, that emergency back-up won't work in outer space.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



OT: Expensive Time-Sink

2003-10-26 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
OMG!  A dear friend dragged her boyfriend up north (relative
to NC, that is) to meet a bunch of her older friends, and my
house was one of the stops, and we got to camera geeking, and 
suddenly I've got a 4x5 camera in my hands!  Until he needs 
it back, which is probably going to be a couple months from 
now (but he might lend me an 8x10 at that time, depending on 
which gear he expects to need after that).

It's a wooden folder with enough movements to keep me busy
learning how to use, and a wide-angle lens on it.  I figure
I'll wander around for a week or so just learning the movements
and not planning to expose any film (but will carry film with
me just in case something jumps in front of me that Needs To 
Be Photographed).

I'm excited.

I'll try to get around to saying something useful about 
lovely M42 lenses later for the person who asked about 
those, after my brain stops shouting Look! A 4x5 camera! at me.

I've got four film holders containing eight sheets of HP5+,
and need to come up with a way to pay for developing.  Wh!

-- Glenn



Re: The Bat

2003-10-26 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 26, 2003, 9:07:25 PM, you wrote:

 Could one of the users of the Bat very kindly tell me how to
 pre-process my mail on the server?

what do you mean by 'pre-process'? What do you actually want to do?

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Re: Ebay

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
What I see is a bunch of con men conning each other. He cheated you. Both of you 
cheated Ebay. You tried to cheat other Ebay users. And somehow Ebay is at fault.

Also, I don't remember seeing your name on the list before. This message, did 
you just sign up so you could spam they list with your fundamental dishonesty?



Brian Dipert wrote:

Beware of hacked accounts, esp. if you choose to conduct the transaction
outside the Ebay system. From personal experience, alas:
www.reed-electronics.com/ednmag/index.asp?layout=articlearticleId=CA289972

(long URL may break into multiple lines in your email client)

==
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Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Memory, Multimedia, PC Core Logic and
Peripherals, and Programmable Logic
EDN Magazine: http://www.edn.com
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Sacramento, CA   95817
(916) 454-5242 (voice), (617) 558-4470 (fax)
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Visit me at http://www.bdipert.com

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http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis
 
 OK, I've read through the last few digests and learned all about how the 
 *istD feels, who would like which knobs in different places and so.  Don't 
 you guys take pictures with those things?

Naah - why would we do that?

Actually my other half has me fairly busy this weekend, so I can't get
out and play with the toy today.  And on Friday several work-related items
kept me busier than I had hoped.  U've managed to take a few shots just
to get the feel of it, but nothing I'd care to show to anybody else.
It doesn't help that I'm currently without my two main walking-around
lenses, either - the 28-105 and my recently-accquired 80-320 are both
in at the repairers getting minor items fixed (the 28-105 is misaligned,
and the chip in the 80-320 appears to be non-functional).  Thanks to
Adoram not shipping when they told me they would I missed what I had
hoped would be the first test shoot at the local Renaissance Faire.

I'll see if I can find time to take a quick patrol around the local
neighbourhood and see if anyone has a good Halloween display set up.



Re: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 14:05 America/New_York, George Sinos wrote:

What's your opinion on the Pentax Photo Browser and Photo Laboratory 
software?
Photo Browser is adequate, but that's not my primary browser software. 
Photo Lab could be much better. They should look at Capture One as an 
example to follow.


How are you batteries holding out.  Is the low battery indicator 
accurate?
I've shot about 200 images so far with a set of 1800mAH NiMH AA cells, 
some RAW and some JPEG L*** and L**, about 40% with flash. The battery 
indicator still shows a full charge. The problem is that the battery 
indicator has only two segments: full charge and half charge, so it may 
be accurate, but not very precise. This is not a Pentax-specific 
shortcoming...many other digital cameras also use a two-segment battery 
indicator.

--jc



Re: *istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread alex wetmore
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, John Francis wrote:
  OK, I've read through the last few digests and learned all about how the
  *istD feels, who would like which knobs in different places and so.  Don't
  you guys take pictures with those things?

 Naah - why would we do that?

I'm taking some photographs, but I just haven't had a chance to put a lot
of them online (and I'm still learning some stuff about this camera and
unlearning old bad habits from my previous camera).

Here is an IR shot that I took today while on a walk in Seattle's
Discovery Park:

http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/pentax-ir/olympics-ir.jpg

This was shot with the A 50/1.4 @ f2.8, 1/45, ISO 400, handheld.  All
that I've done is convert it to monochrome and adjust the white and
black points.

The noise in the red channel when working with IR is pretty bad which
is unfortunate, but I'm still pretty happy with the results.  In
monochrome the noise looks more like BW grain.  It is nice to be able
to get reasonable results while handheld on a bright day.

A photograph that I thought I would like after taking it didn't really
turn out that well upon close inspection.  The DOF was too shallow and
the main subject is slightly out of focus.  It is going to take me a
while to get used to DOF with the larger sensor as I've been shooting
with a Sony DSC-F717 for the last few years.  That camera has a much
smaller sensor (8.8x6.6mm).

alex



Re: What do the photo labs print with?

2003-10-26 Thread Herb Chong
the low end labs do the same. the difference between low and high is
resolution and paper handling. Lightjet 5000 machines typically can handle
up to 60 inches wide.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: What do the photo labs print with?


 Heck, one high-end lab I work with uses a variation of laser printing
 on photographic paper.  It has three lasers which optically expose the
 paper (at a resolution of 305ppi), and the paper then goes through the
 usual chemical bath.




Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
I just gotta comment:

1.  It's good that those with some discretionary funds buy early,  They
partially finance the better camera everyone else will buy 3-5 years
form now.  Nonetheless, many purchasers of DSLRs (Canon or Pentax) seem
very happy with them and the image quality, which is all that matters to
an amateur like me.

2.  One interesting point is that many have indicated that they shoot a
lot more with a DSLR.  This skews the you must shoot a roll a week to
justify it economically argument.

3. I'd like a full frame sensor if it has the same pixel density as the
current APS sensor.  You would then still have the magnification
effect with telephotos, just that you could achieve it by cropping.

4.  As for handling, I guess I'll just have to wait until I can comment
. . .


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT: USA Interstate Traffic

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
Actually the current Interstate Highway System started out as the National 
Defense Highway System. Ike had learned the hard way how hard it was to move men 
and equipment long distances in Europe during WWII and the US has two coasts to 
defend 3500 miles (nearly 6000 kilometers) apart. The thought of trying to move 
men and equipment between the two in a war situation scared the crap out of him 
(an rightly so), so he pushed and pushed for a highway system that would allow 
rapid deployment. Of course long before it was completed it was obsolete as 
military transportation over long distances was then done mostly by air, but by 
then everyone appreciated the advantages of a decent high-speed highway system 
and the work continued.



Steve Sharpe wrote:
So, what was Eisenhower's Secretary of Defence's other job? He was 
Chairman of General Motors.
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis
 
 1.  It's good that those with some discretionary funds buy early,  They
 partially finance the better camera everyone else will buy in 3-5 years

That already happened, of course.  The original DSLRS (such as the Kodak)
were horrendously expensive - I believe the high-end model was $25,000
Then came the second generation, exemplified by the Nikon D1.  Cheaper,
because much of the development cost was born by those earlier cameras.
Now we're into the third generation, with street prices around $1500.
(And, apparently, just at the start of the sub-$1000 fourth generation).
It's just that different folks jump onto the train at different times.

 2.  One interesting point is that many have indicated that they shoot a
 lot more with a DSLR.  This skews the you must shoot a roll a week to
 justify it economically argument.

Quite.  That's why I didn't buy a $5,000 digital camera outfit, but am
prepared to pay 1/3 of that amount.  I calculated my payback cost based
on the film  processing costs measured over the previous two years,
and the *ist-D is justifiable.   I'm sure I'll shoot more frames than
I would have done on film, but that's not the basis I calculated with.
 
 3. I'd like a full frame sensor if it has the same pixel density as the
 current APS sensor.  You would then still have the magnification
 effect with telephotos, just that you could achieve it by cropping.

That's what the current full-frame sensors in the Canon 1Ds  Kodak 14N are.



Re: FA 50/2.8 Macro

2003-10-26 Thread Ramesh Kumar
I will try with Cf lens. And just for sake of testing
I will try few glass mounted slides.

Thanks you verymuch
Ramesh
--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Then there is your problem.
 
 You have a FF (flat-field) lens that is intended for
 glass mounted slides. A CF 
 (curved-field) lens is for regular slide mounts
 where the film tends to curl a 
 bit. Easiest way to check this out is to buy a small
 box of glass slide mounts 
 and remount some of your slides in them and see if
 that does not fix the problem.
 
 If it does then your choice is to glass mount your
 favorites, or to find a CF 
 lenses. A note to the wise, if you are serious about
 projecting your slides the 
 glass mounts are the better way to go as the slides
 will last longer, and the 
 images will be sharper. If you are just using the
 projector to view proofs then 
 go with a CF lens as it will be easier and cheaper
 in the long run.
 
 
 Ramesh Kumar wrote:
 
  its FF lens
  Ramesh
  --- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Does the Kodak lens say CF or FF on it?
 
 -- 
 graywolf
 http://graywolfphoto.com
 
 You might as well accept people as they are,
 you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
 
 


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Re: Field Conditions,was: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
In your situation, Dave, you may just have to consider your printers a short 
term investment. It might be best to use the cheapest that will do the job and 
replace them every few months. I know of none that are designed for a dusty 
environment, and even if they are some sealed printers made they would be very 
expensive.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Brendan chimed in with:  

Even the higher end printers like the 2200 are ink
monsters, 


Hi all.
Now i have several examples of printers other than my Canons,thanks to Bill and Wendy.
But, i tend to use my printers and computers in some pretty dusty,hot,windy,fly infested
conditions.I 
have noticed i have to service the S800 quite often as the pull down rollers stop pulling
down,have to 
push it a bit,and after a few months in the field i noticed,under light bulb light
only,not under normal 
daylight,very fine,less than hair llike scratches on the papers surface.None noticed with
Ilford papers.

Has anyone used their Epson,say 925 or so or Olympus dye sub in field conditions such as
mine.???The 
photographer that sold me the D1 mentioned the dye sub's can produce a poor quality print
if ANY 
dust/dirt gets in the ribbon/ink/paper. Wendy said her first on site went well with good
quality prints.

Any comments.

Dave

  			



--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD

2003-10-26 Thread Jostein
Gang,
I have tried to sum up some experiences from the first two days of shooting
with the *istD and various lenses on a webpage:
http://home.online.no/~jooksne/istd/aberration.html

No big images, but lots of crops. Shouldn't load too slowly, though.

There's a big table in there which will be too wide for many screens, I
know, but it was what I ended up with, and I'm too tired to recast it now.
Sorry about the inconveniece and hope you can cope...

For those who don't bother, here's a brief conclusion:

I couldn't detect any chromatic aberrations in any lens  when stopped down
to f/8 or f/11, except the FA*400/5.6.

For wide open apertures i found:
The FA*28-70/2.8 is one bloody good lens!
The FA 28-70/4 is poor in terms of sharpness and contrast, but has no
aberration.
The FA 100/2.8 macro has clearly visible aberrations.
The FA*400/5.6 has moderate aberrations, that doesn't go away when stopping
down.

Sigma APO 70-200/2.8 has bad aberrations at 70mm, but not at 200mm.

Cheers,
Jostein
-



Re: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis

After much to-and-froing, my own Canon/Epson/HP decision finally
got resolved in favour of HP.  It's only six-colour (not their
latest eight-ink unit), but the biggest difference there would
be if I did a lot of black-and-white printing.

The single biggest factor was my fear of printheads clogging
if the unit sits unused for a month.  At least on the HP all
I need to do is replace the ink cartridge (and if I know that
the printer isn't going to be used for a while I can take the
cartridges out and store them in a ziploc bag).  I also like
the fact that HP seem to have standardized on one regular set
of print cartridges for all their various models, so if I get
a smaller printer as well as the wide-format I would only have
to have one set of ink cartridges in use at any time.

The Epson would be my primary choice for print lifetime, but
it's twice the cost of the HP ($799 instead of $399).   That
difference buys me quite a few reprints.



Re: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread Herb Chong
if you sell your prints, you have to make the choice in the other direction.
you can't reprint for someone, even a good friend, if the image is in a
frame.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: A3 printer recommends please


 The Epson would be my primary choice for print lifetime, but
 it's twice the cost of the HP ($799 instead of $399).   That
 difference buys me quite a few reprints.




Re: The Bat

2003-10-26 Thread Harold Owen
Hello MyHosting,

Sunday, October 26, 2003, 9:07:25 PM, you wrote:

M Could one of the users of the Bat very kindly tell me how to
M pre-process my mail on the server?

M Regards

M  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

1) From the toolbar select Account.
2) From the dropdown menu select either New messages only
All messages
3) The Bat will then start displaying the email headers on the server.
4) From the list of emails displayed select any emails you wish to
   remove and click on the delete box, and also click on the read and
   receive boxes so that they are no longer 'ticked'.
5) Lastly click on the first icon on the toolbar to Start transfer,
   which will then download your emails.


The other email program that I use Becky is slightly simpler when
accessing emails on the server, you can check out Becky at this
Japanese website:-

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm



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Re: Re[4]: Wireless flash and off camera clips, grips, pips, tips, salsa dips

2003-10-26 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
There is just no good automagic way of doing multiple, off camera flashes.
With studio flashes you: get a meter, use a digital camera (even a PS) to
check a histogram (you can check this with a PS by uploading the file into
PS), or shoot many, many rolls of film. If your shooting a subject, and want
a 1:3 lighting ratio (1.5 stop difference) from one side to the other, TTL
won't work. Your better off using both flashes in Auto mode, and set them to
give different amounts of light. If I was shooting a person and given the
choice between: two independently controlled lights (say into umbrellas),
one light and fill card, one light and one light with on camera fill flash;
the on camera light would be last and I wouldn't bother with it.
You can do studio lighting on the cheap, but there are certain basic
capabilities you need to get decent results.

BR

From: Dave Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Could you please explain this further.  I had actually planned on the slave
providing most of the light and the popup or hotshoe mounted flash providing
the minority of the light.  I'm afraid I'm still a bit lost here.  I have
the PZ-1p and PZ-1 cameras at this point and have no wireless to play with
as yet in my Pentax equipment.  I also have acquired a professional stand
type modeling flash with 3 variing outputs from a local photographer that
retired, only $40, and of course would like to implement it.  Unfortunately
I do not possess any metering equipment other then on camera metering.  I
have the AF360FGZ and a couple of other off brand flashes for pentax.  one
of which supports TTL and AF.  I had planned to use a minisoftbox on my
hotshoe on camera flash with the slaves.




Re: Av Wheel Wanted....

2003-10-26 Thread John Francis
 
 All,
 
 I was doing some still-life and macro shooting with my MZ-S this morning
 with a couple of big lenses.  I wanted to do some aperture bracketing to
 experiment with different depths of field, and I caught myself wishing that
 my MZ-S had an aperture wheel!

So perhaps hou should consider picking up a PZ-1?  Cheaper that a *ist-D...



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread ernreed2
Someone posted:
  
  Someone made a solar powered 35mm compact some time ago.  Not successful
  but, as you say, the technology just needs developing.

I seem to remember that Ricoh had an SLR back in the 1980s that was solar-
powered. All I know about it, I saw in the pages of Popular (or Modern?) 
Photography. It had a K-mount.




*istD output?

2003-10-26 Thread George Sinos
OK, I've read through the last few digests and learned all about how the 
*istD feels, who would like which knobs in different places and so.  Don't 
you guys take pictures with those things?  For cryin' out loud, it's not 
like you have to wait for the processing

Here is a link to some early samples.  These were converted from RAW to 
16-bit TIFF with the Pentax Photo Laboratory software.  They were then 
edited in Picture Window Pro to be printed at 7x10 in..  The edited TIFFS 
were converted to full size JPEGs for upload to the web site.  I don't know 
what effect all of that will have on the files.  Here's the 
link-  http://www.georgesphotos.com  They are in the Photography 
Gallery.  You'll also find a few full size Optio S samples there.  Both of 
those galleries are configured to let you download at full size file if you 
wish.  As a side issue, you can also see snapshots taken with Optio S in 
the featured gallery titled OU Homecoming 2003.  Those, however, have 
been somewhat compressed.

I know these aren't fine art. I'm going through the learning curve and 
would like to hear from others.

Here's some questions.

The RAW files are on the soft side.  Have you come up with a useful average 
settings for converting batches of files to JPEG or TIFF?

Has anyone, sent an email to the makers of Capture One 
http://www.phaseone.com, encouraging them to add the *istD to supported 
cameras for their raw conversion software?  They've said they are watching 
the market to determine if it makes the list or not.

What's your opinion on the Pentax Photo Browser and Photo Laboratory software?

How are you batteries holding out.  Is the low battery indicator accurate?

By the way.  I shot with my screw mount Spotmatic for almost thirty 
years.  Then a couple of years ago I jumped to auto-focus with a 5n, and 
now this.  The screw mount lenses seem to work fine.  You switch them to 
manual put the camera in Av mode.  It reminds me of the old days, my old 
Spotmatic has stop down metering.  Manual focusing is ok with the 5n and 
works better on the *istD.  Nothing like an old fashioned microprism 
though.  I slept through all that early K series stuff.  All of my lenses 
work ok.

Thanks, gs
  



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Was it something I said? 8-)  I am optimistic that the present
 difficulties will be dealt with.  I am not sure they will be dealt
 with in a manner beneficial (both financially and photographically) to
 me.
 
 mike
 
 Well, there is that. :-)
 
 No. Not necessarily you. Somehow I was worried this was coming across as
 another b**tch about digital thread. When actually I find digital rather exciting.
 It's just that so far I am somewhat disappointed. More disappointed than I
 was expecting to be or more disappointed than I'd like to be. At least for
 dropping big bucks -- thinking of my own potential future purchasing.

Snap!

 And I'm just curious what people want/wish for in DSLR improvements.
 
 Like maybe there are some I haven't thought of -- some I didn't list.

It seems to be difficult to think of other things when the technology is
not as good as an existing process for producing pictures.  For me, the
_major_ drawback to digital is the dependence on batteries, as I
sometimes find myself in situations where a purely mechanical device is
a better option.  Can't see that one being solved.

As my main reason for beginning to buy Pentax was interchangeability
(though it is not my only reason for staying with it) I wish to keep
that tradition up in my personal kit.  I will not be buying anything
that has reduced compatibility to that I enjoy at present.

mike



OT: Calling Steve Desjardins

2003-10-26 Thread Malcolm Smith
Steve,

Do you use an e-mail address other than the one which ends '@wlu.edu'? Could
you please contact me off list.

Many thanks,

Malcolm






Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread graywolf
Well I have 3 major problems with current DSLR's.
1. Price, needs to be 1/2 of current.
2. Price, needs to be 1/2 of item 1.
3. Price, needs to be 1/2 of item 2.
When they meet those criteria I will difinately buy one, probably used.
(just a little bit tongue in cheek)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been thinking about what improvements I'd like to see in DSLRs -- in the 
immature c**p technology -- before I am happy or happier. And, thus, more 
willing to spend bucko bucks on a DSLR.

Trouble is, I am rather ignorant. But I think I'd like to see:

1. Canon solve it's exposure problems. (Not totally sure this is the problem, 
but it seems that is the problem, or maybe it's auto focus in low light, 
which is supposedly a problem with some of their film cameras as well.)

2. Better software for chromatic aberrations This is where I am really 
ignorant. But it seems to me that good interpolation (?) software might distribute 
the results of chromatic aberration better, so that digital apes film more. I 
mean, people are not going to be happy when they discover that one half of 
their lenses do not work that well with a DSLR. I wouldn't be happy shopping 
around for older lenses, having to find out which one had bad effects on a DSLR.

3. Greater latitude. Again ignorant. But I've been thinking maybe software 
could ape film types more as well. I am used to shooting slides now, so the lack 
of latitude may not bother me -- much. But for those who formerly shot 
negative film, it may be a bit of a shock. Maybe this could not be done by software, 
maybe it has to be firmware, but I think it might be doable. Very doable. 
Settings to change latitude.

4. Less artifacting. Well, most 6 mps seems to not artifact too much, but 
there seem to be some cases where they do. I am still sort of examining this one.

5. Full frame sensor? Nope, don't think that is important to me.

6. Being able to use older lenses on a Pentax DSLR. The more and more that I 
have read this list, the more and more I think that would be a great idea. The 
main reason is that there are tons of cheaper manual lenses out there. More 
people would hop on the Pentax bandwagon (newbies) if they could pick up 
cheaper lenses for their new DSLR. However, I am not sure if the firmware would 
support it -- because the aperture is set from the camera and the right contacts 
are missing from the lens mount (this is what I have gathered from reading the 
list). Is an adapter ring down the line at all possible?

Anyway, these are my ignorant ramblings.

What improvements would you like to see?

Marnie aka Doe  Saying no digital at all in not allowed. :-)


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: Ebay

2003-10-26 Thread Mr. William M. Kane
Mishka,

   I think that you, like graywolf misread what this gentleman wrote.  
He did not blame ebay, and even admits in his article that he was to 
blame for circumnavigating around ebay's security.  He does indicate 
he is upset at Ebay's disability to help him in this situation, but 
does not blame them for his actions.

   Instead, I think the thrust of his argument is the fact that when 
you attempt to change email addresses on ebay, a confirmation email is 
ONLY sent to the new email address.  This means that any hacker who 
happens upon your password, or obtains it by some means can easily 
hijack your account without your knowledge.  It seems to me that this 
is what he is most upset with.  A simple second email that would not 
cost Ebay one more penny can help to prevent account hijackers.

Just my .02 on the subject,
IL Bill
On Sunday, October 26, 2003, at 05:57 PM, mishka wrote:

...so, you wanted to screw ebay (early termination of an auction), and 
when you got screwed instead -- what, writing an
article blaiming ebay for that? sheesh...

of course, i did that myself, namely, contacting the sellers outside 
ebay, when/if the items were not sold.
but to count on ebay for protection -- that would have been really 
stupid.

best,
mishka



RE: On how *istD handles.

2003-10-26 Thread Len Paris
That's true.  The *ist D manual seems to suggest that the extreme north
is not a good climate for this camera.  It's made for more temperate
climates.  However, that said, I feel that Jostein has more experience
working under those conditions than most of us.

Len
 * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: On how *istD handles.
 
 
 
 
 Jostein wrote:
  Gang,
  
 
  [snip]
  
  The *istD is very similar to all other DSLRs I have seen in 
 that it does not
  handle well with gloves on. The buttons and wheels are 
 simply too small to
  be felt and properly pushed with gloves on. IOW, it's a 
 challenge to use it
  properly outdoors in 6 months out of 12 here in Norway. 
 Small hopes for a
  fix on that one, though...
  
 
 Sounds like you need to move to a warmer part of the world.  :)
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 rg
 




Re: OT: Expensive Time-Sink

2003-10-26 Thread Mat Maessen
The cut-film tank that I paid $10.50 on eBay for should be arriving any 
day soon...
I've been doing the same thing with my new 4x5 press camera the last 
couple of weeks... once I get the tank I can actually load film into the 
holders and try it out for real. :-)

-Mat (the sucking sound you hear is your hobbies...)

D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
I've got four film holders containing eight sheets of HP5+,
and need to come up with a way to pay for developing.  Wh!



Re: Av Wheel Wanted....

2003-10-26 Thread Robert Gonzalez


Mark Erickson wrote:
All,

I was doing some still-life and macro shooting with my MZ-S this morning
with a couple of big lenses.  I wanted to do some aperture bracketing to
experiment with different depths of field, and I caught myself wishing that
my MZ-S had an aperture wheel!  Nutty, huh?
In particular, my A* 200/F4 macro lens only displays the aperture in the
viewfinder if the lens is set on A.  I can put the camera on Shutter
Priority and use the shutter dial on the MZ-S, but I have to do exposure
compensation via the exposure compensation dial, which is not easy to do
with your eye at the viewfinder
That *ist D is looking more and more attractive with every passing day.
Must... Resist
--Mark


Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated

;)

rg



Somehow... I'm drowning in pentax again...

2003-10-26 Thread Sid Barras
I don't know how its happened, but I am once again so enabled I don't dare
show the wife how many cameras I own.
A spotmatic Sp, a spotmatic SP II, a Spotmatic F, A sweet golden ES, An even
sweeter chrome ES II, a just as pleasant ES II black, a K2 chrome, a K2
chrome, a K2 black, a K2 black, a K2 DMD, a K2 DMD, a super program, an LX,
a PZ1, a PZ1, a pentax 6x7, a kowa 6x6, a miranda sensorex, God forbid I
should be bidding on any more. But I am.
Sid



Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Gonzalez
Subject: Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See



  2. Better software for chromatic aberrations This is where I am really
  ignorant. But it seems to me that good interpolation (?) software might
distribute
  the results of chromatic aberration better, so that digital apes film
more. I
  mean, people are not going to be happy when they discover that one half
of
  their lenses do not work that well with a DSLR. I wouldn't be happy
shopping
  around for older lenses, having to find out which one had bad effects on
a DSLR.
 
 Interesting concept, although it would probably be relatively difficult
 to determine what is a chromatic aberration versus true adjacent color
 deltas.  If you did a blind blend while preserving luminosity, it would
 eliminate some of it, at the cost of general color softness (I'm not
 sure what you call this).

I had always though that chromatic aberation was a lens deficiency.
Blaming a lens problem on digital capture seems like shooting the messenger.
The answer is lenses that are better corrected for chromatic aberation,
though this may mean compromising some other lens defect.

William Robb



Re[2]: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread Bruce Dayton
John,

After my last two Epsons kept clogging, I finally went the HP route
too.  I have been much happier with overall usage of this printer
(7350 - six color) including feel (touch) of the prints and their
hardiness.  Once dry, they seem to be nicer than the Epson prints -
this is all using the manufacturer's paper and inks.  As far as image
quality is concerned, they are very close - I suspect very slight edge
to the Epson, but you would have to do a side by side to notice.


---
Bruce


Sunday, October 26, 2003, 3:30:47 PM, you wrote:


JF After much to-and-froing, my own Canon/Epson/HP decision finally
JF got resolved in favour of HP.  It's only six-colour (not their
JF latest eight-ink unit), but the biggest difference there would
JF be if I did a lot of black-and-white printing.

JF The single biggest factor was my fear of printheads clogging
JF if the unit sits unused for a month.  At least on the HP all
JF I need to do is replace the ink cartridge (and if I know that
JF the printer isn't going to be used for a while I can take the
JF cartridges out and store them in a ziploc bag).  I also like
JF the fact that HP seem to have standardized on one regular set
JF of print cartridges for all their various models, so if I get
JF a smaller printer as well as the wide-format I would only have
JF to have one set of ink cartridges in use at any time.

JF The Epson would be my primary choice for print lifetime, but
JF it's twice the cost of the HP ($799 instead of $399).   That
JF difference buys me quite a few reprints.





Re: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread Brendan
Metamerism is still an issue with the 2200, But proper
profiling will reduce the effect dramatially 

  --- Juey Chong Ong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 On Friday, Oct 24, 2003, at 14:34 America/New_York,
 Ramesh Kumar wrote:
 
  I too was looking at 2000P and its goes cheap on
 ebay.
  2000P has metarism problem, so i did not got for
 it.
  I think 2200P solves metarism problems.
 
 Users on the 2000P/2200 email list have said that
 the 2200 does not 
 eliminate metamerism completely. I think it depends
 on what you're 
 printing and the paper you use.
 
 I also don't necessarily find the metamerism on the
 2000P a problem. 
 Again, it depends on the image, paper and the
 printer driver used.
 
 --jc
  

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Re: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brendan
Subject: Re: A3 printer recommends please


 Metamerism is still an issue with the 2200, But proper
 profiling will reduce the effect dramatially

I am curious about this statement. I had thought metamerisation was purely a
function of how the colour relations of the dyes responded to various
colours of light.
Please elaborate.
Thanks

William Robb



Re: A3 printer recommends please

2003-10-26 Thread Brendan
It is but when there is a serious colour cast to begin
with, good profiles remove this and reduce the effect.

  --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brendan
 Subject: Re: A3 printer recommends please
 
 
  Metamerism is still an issue with the 2200, But
 proper
  profiling will reduce the effect dramatially
 
 I am curious about this statement. I had thought
 metamerisation was purely a
 function of how the colour relations of the dyes
 responded to various
 colours of light.
 Please elaborate.
 Thanks
 
 William Robb
  

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Re: What DSLR Improvements I'd Like To See

2003-10-26 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Bob Walkden wrote:
 
 well, what with recent breakthroughs in nanotechnology you never know.
 
 If you want something that works, rain or shine, then we need to
 combine the past with the present, and shrink it.
 
 A small waterwheel attached to the side of your camera could generate
 plenty of power during a rainstorm; if the weather was dull and overcast
 then the sails of the wheel could catch the slightest breeze, and generate
 plenty of power that way. And of course in f/16 conditions the bright
 sunshine would be collected on the sails which are, of couse, fitted
 with teeny-weeny, but immensely efficient, solar panels.

_Now_ we're talking!  Or maybe like the old U-boat commanders' torch,
with a ratcheting handle and flywheel connected to a generator.  That
would be fun to operate: Excuse me, can I take your photo?  Just got to
squeeze this for a few minutes  Frank could have one attached to
his bike.

Someone made a solar powered 35mm compact some time ago.  Not successful
but, as you say, the technology just needs developing.

 Finally, if the weather simply won't play ball, then you can use gravity.
 The centre of your camera must include a yo-yo mechanism and some sort of
 power exchange device, like a dynamo, attached to the yo-yo spindle
 to capture Newton's favourite apple plucker.

Roll on the true eternal motion machine.  Get that one solved and
everything else will be a doddle.

 Sadly, though, that emergency back-up won't work in outer space.

Plenty solar radiation there, though.  Just don't get on the dark side
of things.

mike



Website updated

2003-10-26 Thread Christian Skofteland
I've added 12 more underwater images from the Great Barrier Reef.

http://home.mindspring.com/~skofteland/ 

Comments are always welcome.

thanks

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RE: Somehow... I'm drowning in pentax again...

2003-10-26 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Sid.
I know the feeling, Mate.
I started out with 1 MZ-50. I now have 4 x MZ-50, 1 x MZ-60, 1 x SF10, 1
x SFX and 1 x SFXn.

Where it will end, I don't know. I am lucky that the MZ series cameras
are a bit like Glock pistols...They all look the same. So if I only have
one out of the cupboard at a time, the missus is none the wiser. This
also applies to my glocks 4 of them.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
OZ

P.S. I was warned about Enablement When I joined this list. But did I
listen???  !!!

-Original Message-
From: Sid Barras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Somehow... I'm drowning in pentax again...


I don't know how its happened, but I am once again so enabled I don't
dare show the wife how many cameras I own. A spotmatic Sp, a spotmatic
SP II, a Spotmatic F, A sweet golden ES, An even sweeter chrome ES II, a
just as pleasant ES II black, a K2 chrome, a K2 chrome, a K2 black, a K2
black, a K2 DMD, a K2 DMD, a super program, an LX, a PZ1, a PZ1, a
pentax 6x7, a kowa 6x6, a miranda sensorex, God forbid I should be
bidding on any more. But I am. Sid





Re: Somehow... I'm drowning in pentax again...

2003-10-26 Thread Paul
What do you actualy do with 4 x MZ-50s?

Trevor Bailey wrote:

G'day Sid.
I know the feeling, Mate.
I started out with 1 MZ-50. I now have 4 x MZ-50, 1 x MZ-60, 1 x SF10, 1
x SFX and 1 x SFXn.
Where it will end, I don't know. I am lucky that the MZ series cameras
are a bit like Glock pistols...They all look the same. So if I only have
one out of the cupboard at a time, the missus is none the wiser. This
also applies to my glocks 4 of them.
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
OZ
P.S. I was warned about Enablement When I joined this list. But did I
listen???  !!!
-Original Message-
From: Sid Barras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 27 October 2003 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Somehow... I'm drowning in pentax again...

I don't know how its happened, but I am once again so enabled I don't
dare show the wife how many cameras I own. A spotmatic Sp, a spotmatic
SP II, a Spotmatic F, A sweet golden ES, An even sweeter chrome ES II, a
just as pleasant ES II black, a K2 chrome, a K2 chrome, a K2 black, a K2
black, a K2 DMD, a K2 DMD, a super program, an LX, a PZ1, a PZ1, a
pentax 6x7, a kowa 6x6, a miranda sensorex, God forbid I should be
bidding on any more. But I am. Sid


 





Re: Ebay

2003-10-26 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I've done a little ebaying and so far things have gone well. In the spring I
received a camera body from the UK and it didn't match the description. The
seller refunded me £30 without any argument and I have a working body with a
few scratches and a ding on the baseplate for about £15. I now have a 10*
rating, no negative feedback -- which I shall avoid at all costs -- and am
able to put 'Buy it now' prices on my offerings. I also add 5% when buyers
use PayPal because they really are in this business for the money. Of course
when foolish people steal my carefully written descriptions it makes me mad.

I have a load of stuff to sell and hope to get on with it as soon as my head
stops spinning. I woke up on Friday and yawned in Technicolor. Being unable
to stand. I made a pitiful sight. It was like being on a small boat in a
storm and it went on all day and the next. Now I'm able to stand, but things
are still going round and round. It may be a virus, it may be worse, but
things are improving. Even Sonera's email servers are now sending mail once
in a while. They claim a worm caused a 'denial of service' attack. Aino
tells me that's what was reported on the news yesterday afternoon anyway.
I'll get to the point now:

In the past two buyers have contacted me after a sale asking for other stuff
and I was able to oblige. I consider this quite legitimate since those items
were never on eBay anyway. In a third case a man contacted me months after
an item had failed to sell and bought it for a little more than the last
bid. He used PayPal and so eBay got something out of it after all.

Furthermore, I've met a lot of enthusiastic microscopists though eBay and am
negotiating several deals for equipment that has not been offered on
Auction -- yet. I've put up a gallery of pictures and refer people to them.

Don
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- Original Message - 
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Ebay


 Well, maybe I was bit out of line in my comments. Sometimes I wish I had
not hit
 the send key quite so soon. I feel I could have been more diplomatic, but
my
 comments did reflect my reaction to your article.

 As to your #4, one who bids in a auction expects to either win or lose
based
 upon his bid. They do not expect someone to buy it out from under them in
the
 middle of the bidding. Think of how you would feel if you had made an
honest bid
 and someone had come along and made a private deal with the seller in the
middle
 of the auction.

 My limited experience with Ebay over a couple of years has been
fundamentally
 favorable. I have bought a couple of things that I would not have if I had
seen
 them up front, no one to blame there but myself. Once I was sold something
so
 far from what I considered honest expectations that I left negative
feedback.
 Once I got such bad vibes I decided to not go through with the deal and
accept
 the negative feedback myself. There have been a couple of items that were
not
 satisfactory up front, but we worked out a deal acceptable to both buyer
and
 seller. Mostly I have had no problems either buying or selling, and I kind
of
 think that matches most peoples experience with Ebay.

 Of course since I have sold a half dozen items on Ebay I see you you have
 already discounted my opinion. Oh well...




 Brian Dipert wrote:
  1) I was a member of the list back when Pentax hosted it, and have again
  been a member for quite a few months. I'm not a prolific poster, mind
you,
  but I've posted several times before. In fact, graywolf, I believe you
and I
  have had private email correspondence within the last month or so,
although
  I may be confusing you with someone else on the list
  2) I 'thought' I very clearly admitted my blame for being talked into
taking
  the transaction outside Ebay. I let emotion get the best of me. Please
note
  that 'buy it now' (ie terminating the auction early within the Ebay
system)
  was not an option, because the item had already received bids.
  3) What I blame Ebay for was a system that so easily enables accounts to
be
  hijacked, and allows those accounts (and other accounts listing
identical,
  obviously fraudulent auctions) to remain active weeks or months after
  complaints are received.
  4) I have absolutely no clue what you mean, graywolf, when you say that
I
  tried to cheat other Ebay users. I resent being referred to as a 'con
man'.
 
  It's funny. I wrote that editorial in mid-January. It ran six months
ago, I
  think. The reader feedback was extensive, and overwhelmingly positive
and
  supportive. The only negative comments I got were from folks who
admitted
  that they (coincidentally?) were active Ebay sellers.
 
  I tried to educate this list to not repeat the mistake I made. I got
slammed
  as a result. 

Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD

2003-10-26 Thread Jostein
Hi, Ramesh

I will look into each lens more closely as time allows.
For this first test I used only two apertures.

How much each lens needs to be stopped down is indeed an interesting
question.

Another is how much diffraction will impact the quality when stopped down
fully.

More later.

Jostein

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Pictures at: http://oksne.net
-
- Original Message - 
From: Ramesh Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: Tests of chromatic aberrations with *istD


 Informative test.
 I have question aboutt FA 100mm f2.8.
 Do you know at what aperture abberation disappears?


 Thanks
 Ramesh

 --- Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gang,
  I have tried to sum up some experiences from the
  first two days of shooting
  with the *istD and various lenses on a webpage:
  http://home.online.no/~jooksne/istd/aberration.html
 
  No big images, but lots of crops. Shouldn't load too
  slowly, though.
 
  There's a big table in there which will be too wide
  for many screens, I
  know, but it was what I ended up with, and I'm too
  tired to recast it now.
  Sorry about the inconveniece and hope you can
  cope...
 
  For those who don't bother, here's a brief
  conclusion:
 
  I couldn't detect any chromatic aberrations in any
  lens  when stopped down
  to f/8 or f/11, except the FA*400/5.6.
 
  For wide open apertures i found:
  The FA*28-70/2.8 is one bloody good lens!
  The FA 28-70/4 is poor in terms of sharpness and
  contrast, but has no
  aberration.
  The FA 100/2.8 macro has clearly visible
  aberrations.
  The FA*400/5.6 has moderate aberrations, that
  doesn't go away when stopping
  down.
 
  Sigma APO 70-200/2.8 has bad aberrations at 70mm,
  but not at 200mm.
 
  Cheers,
  Jostein
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