Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
Frank Theriault wrote: > I normally don't make New Years resolutions. I did this year, > though. Me either, and me too... > Anyone make one this year that relates to photography? If so, would you > care to share it with us? I don't really call mine a resolution; more of a determined goal. I want to start my own business, part of which will involve photography. I'm finding that the hardest part is thinking of a good name. Maybe I'll call it *er, after the *ist ;) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
I have few... Buy *istD, *istFilm or its next generation, Sigma 70-200 f2.8, Tokina 28-80 f2.8. At present, I spend too much editing the film scans. With the help of *istD I should be saving some time. I need to start selling photos online. Ramesh --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I normally don't make New Years resolutions. I did > this year, though. > > Anyone make one this year that relates to > photography? If so, would you > care to share it with us? > > I've resolved to make more money this year from > photography than I did last > year (which actually won't be too hard ). > > I don't even remember when I last made a resolution, > but I do remember that > I kept it. Hopefully, I will this year as well. > > cheers, > frank > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > _ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: scary stuff with win 98...
This one time, at band camp, "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am scared - this looks like virus-like activity to me, but I am totally up > to date with all of my virus definitions and only just last night did a full > system scan that came up all clear... Does not sound a big deal. Sounds like a buch of chk files generated by chkdsk. If they are chk files they can be safely deleted. If they are .txt files, you may have an issue with a virus. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: scary stuff with win 98...
Not that I know of Trevor... They *do* look exactly how you described - it is as though I have selected them all and clicked on "cut", but alas, I have not, and they are in a number of different directories, and even after I clear the clipboard, they still remain... this is not good... t. - Original Message - From: "Trevor Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: RE: scary stuff with win 98... > G'day Tanya. > Usually the icons and folders appear "faded: when they have been " > Edit...Cut" or if they are hidden or system files. > You didn't press something by mistake did you? > > Hooroo. > Regards, Trevor > Grafton > OZ > > -Original Message- > From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, 2 January 2004 12:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: scary stuff with win 98... > > > Omigosh, I just went into Windows 98 Explorer to add some actions to my > Photoshop folder, and discovered all of these icons and folders that are > "faded" in their appearance! These are in the c: directory. Then when I > go into the Windows folder, there are more of them AND 304 empty notepad > files with all of these weird names. > > I am scared - this looks like virus-like activity to me, but I am > totally up to date with all of my virus definitions and only just last > night did a full system scan that came up all clear... > > Can anyone help here? > > tan. > > >
Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
Hi Frank, I made one to join the PDML and now I've done it (scary isn't it). Thanks to everyone for the great welcome and yes Tan I like to think that I have a pretty good sense of humor. With some of the mistakes we all make it pays to be able to laugh at oneself. I'm looking forward to the PDML Worldwide Rendezvous (as Frank called it) at Grandfather Mtn. with everyone that can make it. Thanks again for the welcomes, Charles
Re: scary stuff with win 98...
Is your computer overheating? Anyway, try rebooting...let us know how it goes. On my old computer, running my scanner software always did this - needed a reboot to clear it up. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: scary stuff with win 98... > Omigosh, I just went into Windows 98 Explorer to add some actions to my > Photoshop folder, and discovered all of these icons and folders that are > "faded" in their appearance! These are in the c: directory. Then when I go > into the Windows folder, there are more of them AND 304 empty notepad files > with all of these weird names. > > I am scared - this looks like virus-like activity to me, but I am totally up > to date with all of my virus definitions and only just last night did a full > system scan that came up all clear... > > Can anyone help here? > > tan. >
RE: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
I'm going to archive and scan all the stacks of photos that are lying around - and try to stay on top of that this year. I also want to try to visit some places I've been meaning to visit, partly so I can shoot them. And I want to obtain a decent macro lens and a new tripod this year.
Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
I thought that was noted in the FAQ ;-)) frank theriault wrote: > How does one greet a "new list member" who's been lurking for some 18 > months? >
Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
Yes ... I have resolved to put together a portfolio of some essays made a few decades ago. These were never completed because I moved from my studio and didn't have a good situation to continue with darkroom work. Also, I want to photograph more in the rain and at night. And to see more photography shows and exhibits. shel frank theriault wrote: > Anyone make one this year that relates to photography? If so, would you > care to share it with us? >
RE: Photodisks Failing
Sigh, I mean PhotoCD. It was a last night was very long. ; ) Evan -Original Message- From: buddha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 6:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Photodisks Failing Anyone else ever have a problem with Kodak Photodisks. I popped an old one in the new machine today and I got nothing. So I take to the linux box still nothing. I'm going to have my buddies from GA Tech take a look at it this weekend, but has this happened to anyone else? Evan
RE: scary stuff with win 98...
G'day Tanya. Usually the icons and folders appear "faded: when they have been " Edit...Cut" or if they are hidden or system files. You didn't press something by mistake did you? Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Grafton OZ -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 January 2004 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: scary stuff with win 98... Omigosh, I just went into Windows 98 Explorer to add some actions to my Photoshop folder, and discovered all of these icons and folders that are "faded" in their appearance! These are in the c: directory. Then when I go into the Windows folder, there are more of them AND 304 empty notepad files with all of these weird names. I am scared - this looks like virus-like activity to me, but I am totally up to date with all of my virus definitions and only just last night did a full system scan that came up all clear... Can anyone help here? tan.
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Tanya wrote: > Pieter Nagel wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:53:24AM +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: > > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > True. Lewis the Robot Photographer is more suited for a corset and hoop > > dress. > LOL! He'll be a bit out of fashion dressed like that though! Oh! I adore hoops! They're a real bother to drive a car in though. *sigh* -- Glenn
scary stuff with win 98...
Omigosh, I just went into Windows 98 Explorer to add some actions to my Photoshop folder, and discovered all of these icons and folders that are "faded" in their appearance! These are in the c: directory. Then when I go into the Windows folder, there are more of them AND 304 empty notepad files with all of these weird names. I am scared - this looks like virus-like activity to me, but I am totally up to date with all of my virus definitions and only just last night did a full system scan that came up all clear... Can anyone help here? tan.
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:00:00 + (GMT) Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "I am open to suggestions for something better. If PC is your style, we could go "disabled-mount". If you like the lack of backwards compatibility, we can try calling them "perfect-mount", "way of the future-mount" or something like that. See if it catches :-)" How about modern mount. See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net
Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
I've known Charles for several years now, and at the risk of swelling his head, he's really one of the "good guys". Bill - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell) > Welcome aboard Charles, hope you have a good sense of humour to be able to > put up with this lot... > > tan. > >
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Christian said: "bet he can't drop his cameras" hmmm, maybe so, and even if he did, he is probably equipped with the technology to fix them himself anyways! lol... Christian asked: "have you seen tv in a skirt...?" *eek*, i really didn't need *that* picture in my mind's eye, that is going to haunt me all day now! (no offence of course, tv!) ...mind you, he *could* start a new trend in wedding photography attire; pity tv is shooting digital, cause it would make for some very easy "warming" opportunities for film straight out of the fridge... (as cotty and paul discussed already...) tan. (waiting for the "kilt" jokes to start rolling in...)
Re: PUG "January" is open
> I tried numerous versions of cropping the shot and really liked this one the > most. The relationship between fish and anemone is very special and I > wanted to convey that in the picture. > > Thanks again! > > Christian > Yeah, Christian, I think I would tend to agree with you. In fact, I really like the composition, my main "thoughts" behind the cropping possibility was due to the out of focus part of the anemone to the left. BUT, in hindsight, I tend to agree with you, and the crop as it is gives true scale to the shot, depicting just how small the clown fish truly is in relation to his chosen "home". Either way, I love the shot. You know what, I have never been scuba diving, or even snorkelling for that matter. I have asthma and have never been able to go when the opportunity has presented itself to me... It is so funny that we get so complacent (sic?) with those regions that we come to know and never truly "explore" them. I have said to my hubby on a number of occasions that it is ironic that people travel from all over the world to visit what we literally have on our doorstep, and are yet to properly explore ourselves. tan.
Re: PUG "January" is open
- Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > " Nemo " by Christian Skofteland, - underwater photography is something > that has been slowly building my curiosity in the past year or two, and > having the Great Barrier Reef only four hours drive away - it is really > something I should learn about. The vibrancy of the colours are fantastic > here and the focus and composition are just great. Amazing to think that > you took this shot whilst under water! Oh, and I showed it to my kids too, > and it was obviously a resounding success! I *possibly* would have cropped a > fair wack of the out of focus pink side of the anemonae, off but still not > sure if it would really benefit this image or not. Either way, I love it... Thanks, tan. I'm horribly jealous that you are a four-hour drive to the reef! (I'm sure there are other travel considerations to make, like a boat etc, but it's an easy weekend trip). I was lucky enough to get away for a three-day trip when I was visiting my wife's relies last October. As far as the focus and composition goes, I've learned how to use the Optio 330 underwater and my buoyancy control was the best it's ever been. I must admit that I did tweak the colors in PS because of the loss of red light at depth. I didn't go overboard and I compared the colors to other photos of the same type of fish. I tried numerous versions of cropping the shot and really liked this one the most. The relationship between fish and anemone is very special and I wanted to convey that in the picture. Thanks again! Christian
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > we said already, the -10 does both. Why not a 1,200 pound camera? Egads! - that would make the 6x7 seem a mere Minox by comparison! Who could lift it, let alone carry it about hour after hour through wilderness stalking the ever elusive wildlife or scenic landscape unmarred by civilization? !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: For Sale - 2004 January 1
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 04:33:18PM -0800, Bucky wrote: > I have an SMC Pentax-M 50mm 1:1.4 for sale. If anyone on the PDML is > interested, you get first shot, otherwise I'll eBay it. H. My favourite lens. If I didn't already have one, I'd have bought it. What? You're *selling* it? What kind of monster *are* you??? -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
> - Original Message - > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Very interesting, very very interesting... > > > > Looks like TV and Tanya will be out of jobs next year. > > - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > hmmm, bet he can't climb trees and stand in the middle of the road to take > pics though... > > bet he can't jump out from behind the camera to result in squeals of delight > from screaming babies... > > bet he can't help the bride to carry her 7ft train > > bet he can't help the bride's grandmother to cross a road... > > bet he can't sooth a brides nerves as she enters the church... > > his paint job doesn't exactly make of "inconspicuous" shooting, > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > > > t. > bet he can't drop his cameras have you seen tv in a skirt...? Christian
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
LOL! He'll be a bit out of fashion dressed like that though! tan. - Original Message - From: "Pieter Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 08:53:24AM +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: > > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > True. Lewis the Robot Photographer is more suited for a corset and hoop > dress. > > -- > ,_ > /_) /| / > / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l >
Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
On 1 Jan 2004 at 17:42, frank theriault wrote: > I normally don't make New Years resolutions. I did this year, though. > > Anyone make one this year that relates to photography? If so, would you > care to share it with us? Try to get my backlog of film files sorted, labelled and entered in my data base, I've been naughty :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: No grain as a digital advantage?
Groan > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 1-Jan-04 15:58 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: No grain as a digital advantage? > It's a print, Jim - but not as we know it.
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
ERN asked: "Who wears a skirt when taking photographs??" Actually, you know what, I should have said that I was 'figuratively' speaking when I typed that cause, guess what? I NEVER wear a skirt when I am shooting - and especially not weddings. Last week I had 3 guys hoist me and my tripod up onto the roof of a Golf Club to take a large group shot of all the guests - can you imagine that if I'd been wearing... NOT a pretty sight would that have been... *eek*! And it would be even less wise to wear one when shooting kids, as I almost always end up sitting or lying down with them and shooting at ground level, or at least sitting and playing with them for a bit to capture candid shots... I'll try and dig up a shot of me that I know I have *somewhere* of me dressed in my "uniform"... tan.
For Sale - 2004 January 1
I have an SMC Pentax-M 50mm 1:1.4 for sale. If anyone on the PDML is interested, you get first shot, otherwise I'll eBay it. This lens is in what I would describe as unusually good condition. You can tell it's not straight out of the box by some wear marks on the lens mount and a couple of small flecks of dust on the inside of the front element that do not affect image quality. Gauging it by what I've seen from B&H, I'd rate it about an 8+ or a 9. Interested persons may email and we can work out a price. I generally sell a bit to the cheap side of fair, except I haven't seen any place on the Web that has this lens right now so don't really know what "fair" is. Cheers, Mike -- "Ask not at whom the Chimp smirks - he smirks at you." www.smirkingchimp.com www.gregpalast.com www.monbiot.com
Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
welcome Charles, good to see you here arnie - Original Message - From: "Charles Braswell Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell) > Hi everyone. My name is Charles Braswell Jr and I've decided to join the > list today after lurking for quite a while. I've been checking the posts > daily for around a year and a half and have enjoyed the posts and links to > so many interesting topics. I'm a regular attendant at the Grandfather > Mountain Nature weekends and a lot of you have already met me and knew that > I was lurking on the list. I look forward to meeting many more list members > in the future. I'm a professional outdoor, travel and nature photographer. > I've also done weddings, sports and special occassion photography. I use > Pentax equipment and shoot 35mm and 6 X 7. I've also got some sentimental > Canon equipment from the days when I was using the FD system. Thanks for > letting me come aboard (Please don't rock the boat :-) ). > > Charles > >
Re: No grain as a digital advantage?
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: William Robb writes: >6MP will do a perfectly adequate 11x14 inch print with no tribble at all. It's a print, Jim - but not as we know it. Boom boom! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Photodisks Failing
Anyone else ever have a problem with Kodak Photodisks. I popped an old one in the new machine today and I got nothing. So I take to the linux box still nothing. I'm going to have my buddies from GA Tech take a look at it this weekend, but has this happened to anyone else? Evan
Re: Photographic New Years Resolutions?
I'm going to get the gummed-up diaphragms of my Taks cleaned; and complete my quest for the perfect M-42 body to use them with. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: Photographic New Years Resolutions? > > Anyone make one this year that relates to photography? If so, would you > care to share it with us? >
Re: Hello
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I've made a couple of posts in the past few weeks but realised I haven't >introduced (or reintroduced!) myself. >My name is Nick Clark and I'm based in North London in the UK. I actually >used to belong to this list a number of years ago, around the time the >first gallery was being set-up. I dropped out due to work commitments >when the volume of emails increased greatly partly due to one or two >individuals who used the list to wind others up. Thankfully they seem to >be gone >I have kept an eye on the list through the archives and decided to rejoin >partly due toa change in technology which lets me manage the emails on a >PDA on the train journey to work. >My main camera in currently an MZ-S with 43mm f1.8 limited, 90mm f2.8 >Tamron, and 19mm f3.8 Vivitar. This is my favourite kIt, although I have >various other lenses such as the 24-90 and 50mm f2.8 A Macro. I also >occasionally use a KX or MX. >Fortunately my Wife is also into photography and currently uses a *ist >with 28-80 and 80-300 FAJ lenses. We are both members of a local camera club. >So, just a brief intro, nice to be back. Hi Nick, I'm near Oxford. Welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hi everyone. My name is Charles Braswell Jr and I've decided to join the >list today after lurking for quite a while. I've been checking the posts >daily for around a year and a half and have enjoyed the posts and links to >so many interesting topics. I'm a regular attendant at the Grandfather >Mountain Nature weekends and a lot of you have already met me and knew that >I was lurking on the list. I look forward to meeting many more list members >in the future. I'm a professional outdoor, travel and nature photographer. >I've also done weddings, sports and special occassion photography. I use >Pentax equipment and shoot 35mm and 6 X 7. I've also got some sentimental >Canon equipment from the days when I was using the FD system. Thanks for >letting me come aboard (Please don't rock the boat :-) ). > >Charles His very first thread and he's managed to get his name in the subject line. Bloody cheek! Hi Charles, and welcome. Sounds like you almost need no intro - I'll say hi at GFM. Lurking for 18 months? Jees, how many times before that did you write a reply to some thread, then delete it at the last minute? Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
ERN asked: > Tanya posted, among many other things: > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > > > Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? #blink# Is this a trick question? -- Glenn
Pentax ist-D AC Adapter
Can someone on the list, who has or has seen this adapter, give us the exact amp rating of this adapter. I is 6.5v. How many amps or milliamps? Thanks. Robert James
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Tanya posted, among many other things: .. > > and i know who looks better in a skirt... > > Who wears a skirt when taking photographs?? (oh, right, me -- both times I shot weddings. Moving on ...) ERN
Re: HNY
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> This list is so far-reaching, there's bound to be a PDMLer with one foot >> in either hemisphere > >I have! > >-- >Cheers, > Bob LOL! The man is dead right. I owe you a drink. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
> I still say real photographers use the Speed Graphic. Juat ask Weegee. > > And wet glass plates as their medium? :-) Bill
Re: Hello
Welcome back, Nick. Bill - Original Message - From: "Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Hello > I've made a couple of posts in the past few weeks but realised I haven't introduced (or reintroduced!) myself. > My name is Nick Clark and I'm based in North London in the UK. I actually used to belong to this list a number of years ago, around the time the first gallery was being set-up. I dropped out due to work commitments when the volume of emails increased greatly partly due to one or two individuals who used the list to wind others up. Thankfully they seem to be gone > I have kept an eye on the list through the archives and decided to rejoin partly due toa change in technology which lets me manage the emails on a PDA on the train journey to work. > My main camera in currently an MZ-S with 43mm f1.8 limited, 90mm f2.8 Tamron, and 19mm f3.8 Vivitar. This is my favourite kIt, although I have various other lenses such as the 24-90 and 50mm f2.8 A Macro. I also occasionally use a KX or MX. > Fortunately my Wife is also into photography and currently uses a *ist with 28-80 and 80-300 FAJ lenses. We are both members of a local camera club. > So, just a brief intro, nice to be back. > > Nick > >
Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture
frank theriault wrote: > > A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, > and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a > magnifying glass: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 The resemblance is remarkable, Frank! Enjoy the New Year! keith whaley
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Me? I think today's photographers are crippled. The problem with the new cameras is you have to carry them around. If they were truely automatic, you could just tell them what kind of shots you wanted and they would go out and get them for you. I still say real photographers use the Speed Graphic. Juat ask Weegee. -- Christian Skofteland wrote: I don't think the mount is crippled. I think the K and M lenses are crippled for not having the "A" setting! ;-) -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
John Francis posted: > > So which mount is "crippled"? The one that offers the capability of full- > precison, error-free control, or the one that relies on mechanical aids? > >From my POV, the one that can't use MY lenses! ERN, shaking head with a half-grin: isn't it obvious?
Re: It's official!
I use Fuji slide film almost exclusively and always use Fuji themselves for processing. I often get a 3 day turnaround, it seem's to take a day longer compared to my wife's as I have mine umounted for easier storage and so I can see the info printed by the MZ-S. I'm in the UK, but would expect the service to be similar in the US. Nick. -Original Message- From: "Patrick Wunsch"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01/01/04 19:13:31 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: It's official! Someone must have good experience with a mail order film and slide developing service, I hope? I live in Wisconsin, USA Pat - Original Message - From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: It's official! > It's now official. There are no local film processing labs in the area I > live in. The last one closed today. > > Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail order > film processing? I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily. Thanks > > Pat > > >
Hello
I've made a couple of posts in the past few weeks but realised I haven't introduced (or reintroduced!) myself. My name is Nick Clark and I'm based in North London in the UK. I actually used to belong to this list a number of years ago, around the time the first gallery was being set-up. I dropped out due to work commitments when the volume of emails increased greatly partly due to one or two individuals who used the list to wind others up. Thankfully they seem to be gone I have kept an eye on the list through the archives and decided to rejoin partly due toa change in technology which lets me manage the emails on a PDA on the train journey to work. My main camera in currently an MZ-S with 43mm f1.8 limited, 90mm f2.8 Tamron, and 19mm f3.8 Vivitar. This is my favourite kIt, although I have various other lenses such as the 24-90 and 50mm f2.8 A Macro. I also occasionally use a KX or MX. Fortunately my Wife is also into photography and currently uses a *ist with 28-80 and 80-300 FAJ lenses. We are both members of a local camera club. So, just a brief intro, nice to be back. Nick
Re: It's official!
Pat posted: > Someone must have good experience with a mail order film and slide > developing service, I hope? I live in Wisconsin, USA I used to use Dale Labs in Florida (www.dalelabs.com) and was a very satisfied customer. You might check them out. (I haven't had cause to use them for a while; usually use local labs.)
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Hello Pieter, We were talking about the FILM *IST - not the DIGITAL *IST D. The film *ist is a very inexpensive camera targeted more at first time users who are going to buy the FAJ zooms. My point was, that the people who complain about the lack of support of older lenses (people who have the lenses, not a first time buyer who stumbles onto one) are not rushing out to buy an entry level SLR - they are using the previously mentioned bodies. The *ist D (digital) issue in regards to lens mount is a different story. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 12:58:52 PM, you wrote: PN> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 12:32:53PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: >> I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' >> lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era >> bodies as well as the lenses. PN> This statement doesn't quite make sense to me. PN> It's not just people who own older bodies which are conteporaneous with PN> the older lenses who know of the lense' existance. PN> Even someone whose first Pentax body was a recent MZ-whatever could still PN> see old second hand K lenses on the shelves, buy them, and expect them to PN> work as well in their *istD as they did in their MZ-5 or MZ-S.
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 12:32:53PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: > I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' > lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era > bodies as well as the lenses. This statement doesn't quite make sense to me. It's not just people who own older bodies which are conteporaneous with the older lenses who know of the lense' existance. Even someone whose first Pentax body was a recent MZ-whatever could still see old second hand K lenses on the shelves, buy them, and expect them to work as well in their *istD as they did in their MZ-5 or MZ-S. -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l
Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture
Happy Newyear Frank. I really like this one. The "one eye" and background really work. What i want to know is,were on earth did you find COLOUR film.LOL Dave > A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, > and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a > magnifying glass: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 > > I did get a few shots of Christmas Eve in that roll I got back, but > Christmas piccies will have to wait until the roll in my MX is used up. > Soon, I hope... > > Happy New Years, > frank > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > _ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f% 3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca >
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
> > - Original Message - > Think more positively: > Pentax FA-E mount. > > The "E" stands for "Enablement".. > > an excuse to buy new lenses. > > William Robb > Damn.My first Newyears resolution out the window.:-) Dave
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about it already... Think more positively: Pentax FA-E mount. The "E" stands for "Enablement".. an excuse to buy new lenses. William Robb
Re: No grain as a digital advantage?
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: No grain as a digital advantage? > William, > > I imagined the 6 megapixel image could not stand the amount of enlargement > that an image from a 6x7 would and still remain sharp. I imagined that was why > Wedding Photographers used big cameras on the formal portrait side, to get the > required sharpness on enlargement. But now I'm questioning if that is true. 6MP will do a perfectly adequate 11x14 inch print with no tribble at all. Thats about as big as you really need to go for most wedding work, and it's quite possible to go larger with interpolation. 6x7 won't go much bigger than that anyway, really, not much more than 16x20. The fine detail isn't resolved as well as larger film sizes, but this doesn't mean the images aren't sharp. Most wedding photographers big prints have been shot through some sort of softening filter anyway. > > I don't know that 6 megapixel *ist D pictures aren't sharp. I saw my first > one Monday in the case at the camera store. I refused to hold if for fear of > falling into the same ENABLEMENT you did once I got it in my hands. :-) I understand your pain. William Robb
Re: HNY
- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: HNY > Unlike a local "university" chemical engineering department, that > managed to construct a fully working petroleum catalytic cracker (scaled > down but still about five storeys high) in the middle of the city, only > thinking to inform the Health and Safety Executive when it invited > people to the official opening. The safety official saw it run once and > promptly placed a prohibition order on it. About £500,000 down the > drain in 1979. We have one of those things not far from where I live, just on the north east edge of the city. I don't think ours is a mini though, it's pretty tall. William Robb
Re[2]: It's official!
I just got some mailers in from Vermont Color that I thought to give a try. Here is the website: http://www.vermontcolor.com/ -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 11:13:31 AM, you wrote: PW> Someone must have good experience with a mail order film and slide PW> developing service, I hope? I live in Wisconsin, USA PW> Pat PW> - Original Message - PW> From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PW> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 PM PW> Subject: It's official! >> It's now official. There are no local film processing labs in the area I >> live in. The last one closed today. >> >> Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail PW> order >> film processing? I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily. Thanks >> >> Pat >> >> >>
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
Perhaps the "K challenged mount" would suffice. Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 10:48:56 AM, you wrote: ft> You're right, John, ft> We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". ft> I'm starting to feel better about it already... ft> ft> -frank (on his lawyer's advice) ft> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist ft> fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer >>From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best >>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) >> >> > >> > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: >> > >> > > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things >>digital. >> > >> > Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. >> >>It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; >>Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. >> >>So why not just stop the childish name-calling? >> ft> _ ft> Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ft> http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re[2]: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
I don't think that it is targeted at all those who still have pre 'A' lenses. Those people generally like the LX, MX, SuperProgram era bodies as well as the lenses. They might be enticed by the MZ-S (much more the same style in handling and feel), but certainly not enough of them would go for an *ist to make a reasonable business case. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 9:59:06 AM, you wrote: >> >> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. >> >> Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. JF> It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; JF> Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. JF> So why not just stop the childish name-calling?
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
> > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about it already... Well, in all honesty, we don't know what the real story is. But, in any case, it's about time Pentax started using modern technology. It was twenty-five years ago that mechanical shutter timing was abandoned in favour of electronic timing (and, since the Super Program, there has not even been a mechanical fall-back speed). At the time the Super Program was introduced Pentax added the electronic contacts to read maximum aperture, rather than relying on the mechanical contact, and a predictable method of setting aperture from the body. This still relied on mechanical coupling, so had a certain level of imprecision (1/2 to 1/3 stop, according to folks on the list), but at least it fixed the one-stop indeterminacy that the variable-aperture zooms gave us. I believe the FA lenses also incorporate aperture-sensing encoders on the inner mechanism, so it is possible for such a lens to accurately report aperture setting over the digital communication pin. I fully expect to see a future Pentax body that relies on some such capability to control aperture, rather than the mechanical method used today. (Whether such a body will work with "A" lenses is an interesting point). I see moving to the precision of electronic communication and control as a positive step, rather than relying on the mechanical techniques appropriate for twenty-five years ago, with all their inaccuracies. What would an all-electronic mount look like? I think we've seen it. So which mount is "crippled"? The one that offers the capability of full- precison, error-free control, or the one that relies on mechanical aids?
Re[2]: No grain as a digital advantage?
One other thing to consider is "good enough" - for the client, that is. If the clients are happy with it, then all the other positive factors about digital come into the equation. I have moved from 67 to 6mp digital for my portrait and wedding work just very recently. Right now, from my experience, it seems that 67 has an edge in regards to detail - especially in landscapes, but when the subject is rather dominant - like people - the digi does just fine. Those who have seen my digital stuff so far have commented at least as favorably as my 67 stuff - usually slightly better. This is due to the spontinaety that I get from the smaller, faster camera and the generally closer focusing of the lenses that I use. So my advice would be that if you are shooting landscapes/scenics for fine art, that MF is still a better approach. If you are shooting people and events, the digital factors are well worth the difference in image quality (if it can even be seen). -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 9:27:16 AM, you wrote: WR> - Original Message - WR> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WR> ' WR> Subject: No grain as a digital advantage? >> Did I hear right in posts earlier this week? >> >> Did somebody suggest that digital was replacing medium format in Wedding >> photography because the results looked better -- smoother or whatever? >> >> A post by Bill Robb made me aware of different needs for sharpness in WR> Wedding >> Photos, for coming down the aisle snaps vs formal portraits. >> >> So does a 6 megapixel Pentax digital replace a 6x7 for the formal WR> portraits >> based on the lack of grain - textures & tonality, and the sharpness of the >> photos is not an issue? >> >> Regards, Bob S. WR> I know that for several photographers in my area, 6mp Canon's have replaced WR> Pentax, Bronica and Mamiya 6x7 cameras for their wedding work. WR> Where did you get the idea that pictures from 6mp digital cameras are not WR> sharp? WR> William Robb
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
I'm not sure if it is Clintonesque, it probably depends on how you define "is." On Jan 1, 2004, at 2:59 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: ">'That's only true for certain values of 'you'.' ">-- Mark Roberts" "That's hysterical!" "Taken out of context it seems very...I don't know what. (I don't even remember what the context *was*, though I do recall writing it.) -- "Mark Roberts" I think it sounds Clintonesque. Happy 2004 all. Joe
Re: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
Well, well, good to see you finally out of the closet! Bill - Original Message - From: "Charles Braswell Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell) > Hi everyone. My name is Charles Braswell Jr and I've decided to join the > list today after lurking for quite a while. I've been checking the posts > daily for around a year and a half and have enjoyed the posts and links to > so many interesting topics. I'm a regular attendant at the Grandfather > Mountain Nature weekends and a lot of you have already met me and knew that > I was lurking on the list. I look forward to meeting many more list members > in the future. I'm a professional outdoor, travel and nature photographer. > I've also done weddings, sports and special occassion photography. I use > Pentax equipment and shoot 35mm and 6 X 7. I've also got some sentimental > Canon equipment from the days when I was using the FD system. Thanks for > letting me come aboard (Please don't rock the boat :-) ). > > Charles > > >
Re: No grain as a digital advantage?
William, I imagined the 6 megapixel image could not stand the amount of enlargement that an image from a 6x7 would and still remain sharp. I imagined that was why Wedding Photographers used big cameras on the formal portrait side, to get the required sharpness on enlargement. But now I'm questioning if that is true. I don't know that 6 megapixel *ist D pictures aren't sharp. I saw my first one Monday in the case at the camera store. I refused to hold if for fear of falling into the same ENABLEMENT you did once I got it in my hands. :-) Regards, Bob S. In a message dated 1/1/2004 11:28:14 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Did I hear right in posts earlier this week? >> >> Did somebody suggest that digital was replacing medium format in Wedding >> photography because the results looked better -- smoother or whatever? >> >> A post by Bill Robb made me aware of different needs for sharpness in >> Wedding Photos, for coming down the aisle snaps vs formal portraits. >> >> So does a 6 megapixel Pentax digital replace a 6x7 for the formal >> portraits based on the lack of grain - textures & tonality, and the sharpness >> of the photos is not an issue? > I know that for several photographers in my area, 6mp Canon's have replaced > Pentax, Bronica and Mamiya 6x7 cameras for their wedding work. > > Where did you get the idea that pictures from 6mp digital cameras are > not sharp? > > William Robb
Happy new Year from a new list member (Charles Braswell)
Hi everyone. My name is Charles Braswell Jr and I've decided to join the list today after lurking for quite a while. I've been checking the posts daily for around a year and a half and have enjoyed the posts and links to so many interesting topics. I'm a regular attendant at the Grandfather Mountain Nature weekends and a lot of you have already met me and knew that I was lurking on the list. I look forward to meeting many more list members in the future. I'm a professional outdoor, travel and nature photographer. I've also done weddings, sports and special occassion photography. I use Pentax equipment and shoot 35mm and 6 X 7. I've also got some sentimental Canon equipment from the days when I was using the FD system. Thanks for letting me come aboard (Please don't rock the boat :-) ). Charles
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
"John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. >> >> Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. > >It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; >Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. > >So why not just stop the childish name-calling? It's not actually crippled, it's just limping a little bit. A little bit of physical therapy and it'll be fine. ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture
> Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on the photo. Just a fun thing, really. > I'm not really happy with the focus on Claire's eye, but I don't know if > that's my focusing, or the fact that her eye is coming through a $3 plastic > lens (because as a wise sage once said, "If the lens screws up the light..." > ). What I did find amusing is that by focusing on the magnified eye, > everything at the plane of her face is out of focus, but the background > about 3 or 4 feet behind her is more or less in focus. Is that plastic lens K and M compatible, or is it a crippled lens? Bill
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
">'That's only true for certain values of 'you'.' ">-- Mark Roberts" "That's hysterical!" "Taken out of context it seems very...I don't know what. (I don't even remember what the context *was*, though I do recall writing it.) -- "Mark Roberts" I think it sounds Clintonesque. Happy 2004 all. Joe
Re: It's official!
Where in WI, Pat? I'm in the MKE area. Paul - Original Message - From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 1:13 PM Subject: Re: It's official! > Someone must have good experience with a mail order film and slide > developing service, I hope? I live in Wisconsin, USA > > Pat > > > - Original Message - > From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 PM > Subject: It's official! > > > > It's now official. There are no local film processing labs in the area I > > live in. The last one closed today. > > > > Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail > order > > film processing? I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily. Thanks > > > > Pat > > > > > > > >
RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Please all be advised that I've dismissed my counsel effective 12:00 noon, EST January 1, 2004. The last two posts to this list, in which she purports to act as my legal representative, were made without my instruction and authorization. I just want to be everyone's friend again. cheers, frank CC: The Law Society of Upper Canada (Discipline Department) Lawyers Professional Indemnity Corporation (Claims Department) "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you! Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:50:07 -0500 Memo to self: Add Jostein to list of defendants too. Seek additional Punitive Damages due to emotional trauma resulting from extreme humiliation felt by client after being ridiculed before worldwide group of peers by said defendant. signed, frank's lawyer _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Happy New Year!!
"Mr. William M Kane" wrote: > and Happy New Year from IL Bill "The Other Other William, well, kinda" > > On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 12:26 AM, William R. wrote: The list is looking like my real mailbox -- nothing but Bills! :) Happy New year anyway guys annsan
RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Memo to self: Add Jostein to list of defendants too. Seek additional Punitive Damages due to emotional trauma resulting from extreme humiliation felt by client after being ridiculed before worldwide group of peers by said defendant. signed, frank's lawyer "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ROTFLMAO!! _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Memo to self: Add AnnSan to list of defendants of lawsuit. signed, frank's lawyer "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you! Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:28:25 -0500 Mark Roberts wrote: > I've been keeping a collection of my favorite quotations from PDML posts > for a couple of years (at least). Now seems like a good time to share it > with everyone. Enjoy! Definitely fun, Mark! I left in my favorites below : > > "When you're a hobbyist, your equipment and your pictures are the most > important things. When you're working, time and money are the most > important things." > - Paul Stenquist > > "Except for losing the car, I did pretty well from an equipment > reliability standpoint." > - D. Glenn Arthur > > > "Think about it, the light goes through the lens. If that gets screwed > up, the best body in the world ain't gonna fix it." > - Frank Theriault > > "I've seen very few pictures that would benefit from better hardware > more than from better shooting." > - "Bucky" > > "Striving for excellence is stimulating and rewarding; striving for > perfection -- in practically anything -- is both neurotic and futile." > - Edwin Bliss (Not a PDML member but I like the quote) > > "A good photo will overcome its format." > - Doug Brewer > > "As a photographer, if you are not thinking about light, > what *are* you thinking about?" > - Mark Cassino > > "To me, each and every unsatisfactory photo is a kick in that ass to > dig deeper into myself and learn more." > - Mark Cassino > > > "Doing photography in return for money under the direction of someone > else is not a very good way to make good pictures." > - Mike Johnston > > > "It is always difficult to be correct and understood at the same time." > - Dag T > > "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead > of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit > their views." > - Dr. Who (Also not a PDML member but pretty perceptive, anyway!) > > "I swear to God, I'll buy new bunny ears before (Grandfather Mountain)!" > - Frank Theriault > > "It's not which technology is better it's the application of the > technology that makes the difference." > - J.C. O'Connell > > " > "A realistic goal is to not feel the need to have a quota system when > you go out shooting. Just do the best you can, and try to learn something > from > every job." > - William Robb > annsan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
ROTFLMAO!! Jostein Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > frank never said any of those things. If he did (which is not hereby > admitted, but specifically denied), they were taken out of context, and the > meaning of the quotes attributed to him has been clearly distorted and/or > negated by said lack of context. > > In the alternative, and without prejudice to the foregoing, if it is found > by a properly constituted and statutorily empowered finder of fact that the > quotes are accurate, and that they are either not taken out of context or > that the lack of context does not affect the contents thereof, then frank > states, and the fact is that the said utterances are copywrited intellectual > > property, and therefore subject to royalty fees, and that the unauthorized > use thereof gives rise to punitive as well as other compensatory damages, > including but not limited to pecuniary and non-pecuniary losses caused by > such unauthorized usage. > > Have a nice day. > > signed, > frank's lawyer > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > >From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you! > >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:48:09 -0500 > > > >I never said those things. > > > >You'll hear from my lawyer in the morning. > > > >-frank > > > >"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > >pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > _ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004
A dslr from Pentax compatible with all of the K and M lenses. Or else from some other manufacturer who knows our pain, Jim A. > From: "zoomshot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:32:57 - > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004 > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 07:32:50 -0500 > > May I wish all of you and your families a very happy new year. What are your > Pentax wishes for 2004? > > Ziggy > > >
Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture
Hi, Mark, Are you kidding? Do you know how much I had to pay her already for her time on New Years Day? Lawyers aren't cheap at the best of times! Anyway, I fired her a couple of minutes ago. The lawsuit's off. I'm just not up to it (plus I couldn't afford her retainer). Anyway, thanks for your thoughts on the photo. Just a fun thing, really. I'm not really happy with the focus on Claire's eye, but I don't know if that's my focusing, or the fact that her eye is coming through a $3 plastic lens (because as a wise sage once said, "If the lens screws up the light..." ). What I did find amusing is that by focusing on the magnified eye, everything at the plane of her face is out of focus, but the background about 3 or 4 feet behind her is more or less in focus. Like I said, just a fun shot. You take it, and you're not sure what's gonna happen! But I'm glad you enjoyed it. Happy New Years, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:32:26 -0500 "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, >and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a >magnifying glass: > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 Great shot, Frank! (Did you get your lawyer's approval before posting it?) I think the "Hanky Panky Mystical Magic" box in the background is funny! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Not a Christmas Picture
Very nice! Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: OT: Not a Christmas Picture > A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, > and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a > magnifying glass: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 > > I did get a few shots of Christmas Eve in that roll I got back, but > Christmas piccies will have to wait until the roll in my MX is used up. > Soon, I hope... > > Happy New Years, > frank > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > _ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca >
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Mark Roberts wrote: > I've been keeping a collection of my favorite quotations from PDML posts > for a couple of years (at least). Now seems like a good time to share it > with everyone. Enjoy! Definitely fun, Mark! I left in my favorites below : > > "When you're a hobbyist, your equipment and your pictures are the most > important things. When you're working, time and money are the most > important things." > - Paul Stenquist > > "Except for losing the car, I did pretty well from an equipment > reliability standpoint." > - D. Glenn Arthur > > > "Think about it, the light goes through the lens. If that gets screwed > up, the best body in the world ain't gonna fix it." > - Frank Theriault > > "I've seen very few pictures that would benefit from better hardware > more than from better shooting." > - "Bucky" > > "Striving for excellence is stimulating and rewarding; striving for > perfection -- in practically anything -- is both neurotic and futile." > - Edwin Bliss (Not a PDML member but I like the quote) > > "A good photo will overcome its format." > - Doug Brewer > > "As a photographer, if you are not thinking about light, > what *are* you thinking about?" > - Mark Cassino > > "To me, each and every unsatisfactory photo is a kick in that ass to > dig deeper into myself and learn more." > - Mark Cassino > > > "Doing photography in return for money under the direction of someone > else is not a very good way to make good pictures." > - Mike Johnston > > > "It is always difficult to be correct and understood at the same time." > - Dag T > > "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead > of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit > their views." > - Dr. Who (Also not a PDML member but pretty perceptive, anyway!) > > "I swear to God, I'll buy new bunny ears before (Grandfather Mountain)!" > - Frank Theriault > > "It's not which technology is better it's the application of the > technology that makes the difference." > - J.C. O'Connell > > " > "A realistic goal is to not feel the need to have a quota system when > you go out shooting. Just do the best you can, and try to learn something > from > every job." > - William Robb > annsan
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
I don't think the mount is crippled. I think the K and M lenses are crippled for not having the "A" setting! ;-) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 1:48 PM Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > You're right, John, > > We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". > > I'm starting to feel better about it already... > > > > -frank (on his lawyer's advice) > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > >From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best > >Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things > >digital. > > > > > > Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. > > > >It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; > >Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. > > > >So why not just stop the childish name-calling?
Re: OT: Not a Christmas Picture
"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, >and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a >magnifying glass: > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 Great shot, Frank! (Did you get your lawyer's approval before posting it?) I think the "Hanky Panky Mystical Magic" box in the background is funny! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: It's official!
Someone must have good experience with a mail order film and slide developing service, I hope? I live in Wisconsin, USA Pat - Original Message - From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: It's official! > It's now official. There are no local film processing labs in the area I > live in. The last one closed today. > > Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail order > film processing? I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily. Thanks > > Pat > > >
OT: Not a Christmas Picture
A couple of weeks before Christmas, I was Christmas shopping with my kids, and Claire, my youngest, and the only one who loves the camera, picked up a magnifying glass: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2015123 I did get a few shots of Christmas Eve in that roll I got back, but Christmas piccies will have to wait until the roll in my MX is used up. Soon, I hope... Happy New Years, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Solar filter (was Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year)
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I think a 20 stop filter would be dangerous to use for solar photgraphy. >It might block 20 stops of visible light, but let through enough other >wavelengths to fry your eye through the viewfinder. Even if you can't see >the sun at all. > >I would strongly discourage anyone from using any filter for solar >photography unless the filter is explicitly designed as a *solar* filter, >not just a very dark filter. Peter is spot-on here. Couldn't endorse those words enough. I would only ever point a lens at the sun while using my own eye to frame it up *if it was an electronic ( non-optical) viewfinder* - and only then if it wasn't mine. I routinely get shots if the sun (setting/rising/high noon) for whatever story requirement demands it using 25 grand's worth (£) of Sony Betacam that belongs to the company I work for. No way would I do that if it was mine. If the 3 CCDs melt or whatever, it gets repaired by a very nice man with elbow-patches and tweakers in his breast pocket :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Happy New Year!!
Wasn't there a song from the 70's or 80's (a true one hit wonder, if it could be described as a hit at all) called "Bills, Bills, Bills" by Bill and the Bills? I think I'm having one of those flashback episodes again. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Mr. William M Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Happy New Year!! Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 00:33:17 -0600 and Happy New Year from IL Bill "The Other Other William, well, kinda" On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 12:26 AM, William R. wrote: Happy New Year William from the other William... and Happy New year to everyone cheers! From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Happy New Year!! Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 00:07:54 -0600 It's just past midnight in Saskatchewan, and I am sipping on Champagne that I made using the traditional method. Happy new year, one and all. William Robb _ No masks required! Use MSN Messenger to chat with friends and family. http://go.msnserver.com/HK/25382.asp _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: Happy New Year!!
You buried it in a cave in France for a couple of decades? Cool! Happy New Years, Bill, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's just past midnight in Saskatchewan, and I am sipping on Champagne that I made using the traditional method. Happy new year, one and all. William Robb _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best
You're right, John, We should call it a "differently-abled mount". Or maybe a "special mount". I'm starting to feel better about it already... -frank (on his lawyer's advice) "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AP liked the *ist 35mm best Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) > > On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > > > Pity it's (like all film cameras) being overshadowed by things digital. > > Pity, also, that it's a cripple mount. It doesn't matter how many times you use that stupid description; Pentax aren't going to change how their cameras work. So why not just stop the childish name-calling? _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
frank never said any of those things. If he did (which is not hereby admitted, but specifically denied), they were taken out of context, and the meaning of the quotes attributed to him has been clearly distorted and/or negated by said lack of context. In the alternative, and without prejudice to the foregoing, if it is found by a properly constituted and statutorily empowered finder of fact that the quotes are accurate, and that they are either not taken out of context or that the lack of context does not affect the contents thereof, then frank states, and the fact is that the said utterances are copywrited intellectual property, and therefore subject to royalty fees, and that the unauthorized use thereof gives rise to punitive as well as other compensatory damages, including but not limited to pecuniary and non-pecuniary losses caused by such unauthorized usage. Have a nice day. signed, frank's lawyer "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you! Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:48:09 -0500 I never said those things. You'll hear from my lawyer in the morning. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Hi! Big, no, huge thanks, Mark. That's wonderful collection. Boris
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
Two more, that I wrote down in a notebook rather than a Post-It: "Photography is about going from soemthing we can only see to something we can hold in our hands." -- William Robb "... there ARE people ... who ... look for films with more natural or neutral colors -- who prefer the Egyptian cotton of photography rather than the enhanced polyester look." -- Shel Belinkoff
Re: Cotty and the MZ-S (response)
I can totally understand your thinking about not buying a new film camera now that the ist-d has come out. Given a choice, I would certainly buy the ist-d over the MZ-s right now. Both cameras are exceptional but you would really need a good reason to go out and pay full pop for an MZ-S. I picked up mine for a good price used otherwise I could not have justified it Vic The *ist D did. When William Robb said that he bought one within minutes of first picking it up, I can fully understand what he meant. I could feel it myself. If I hadn't migrated away from modern Pentax, I would have ordered one sight-unseen. It is a little gem. Maybe a bit too little - I am now used to monster cameras - the Canons tower over the diminutive *ist D. With my big hands, no bad thing. Far be it for me to be judge any gear without giving it a proper outing - it's quite unfair and you're right to pull me up on it. The MZ-S wouldn't be any good as a doorstop - it has no weight to it! ';-) Cheers, Cotty
Re: Solar filter (was Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year)
At 07:35 AM 01/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: > Speaking of which, has anybody a recommendation on solar filters? I > have a aluminized mylar filter that I have used to shoot a couple of > solar eclipses, but it makes the colours strange: >http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/eclipse-bucuresti I used exactly the same type of filter as you did (well, I think I did). Bought it in a sheet from a company in the UK. I didn't seem to get any strange colours. http://www.beard-redfern.com/eclipse.html (New Year's Resolution - re-do some of my web pages. This is particularly bad!) Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Solar filter (was Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year)
Pieter Nagel: My filter is from such a place, but your tip is useful anyway: Thinking about it now, I might find a better filter by looking again. This might be useful: http://www.baader-planetarium.com/sofifolie/details_e.htm Wonderful! Thank you, this will come in handy. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: Solar filter (was Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year)
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 04:59:14PM +0100, Anders Hultman wrote: > My filter is from such a place, but your tip is useful anyway: > Thinking about it now, I might find a better filter by looking again. This might be useful: http://www.baader-planetarium.com/sofifolie/details_e.htm -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l
Re: Solar filter (was Re: Multiple exposure shot over course of the year)
Herb Chong: did you make it yourself or is it designed for photographic use? It's originally a telescope accessory, designed for watching the sun. http://anders.hultman.nu/kamera/solfilter.jpeg Pieter Nagel: I think a 20 stop filter would be dangerous to use for solar photgraphy. It might block 20 stops of visible light, but let through enough other wavelengths to fry your eye through the viewfinder. Even if you can't see the sun at all. Yes, probably. Focused sunlight is a dangerous thing indeed. I have a friend who accidentally burned a hole in his camera shutter while setting up his gear for a sun shot. I once was given a piece of solar filter that looked just like very thin aluminium foil. It was a sheet of metal manufactured so thin that it became transparent enough for solar viewing. The image through this was noticably whiter than through another Mylar (?) filter, whose image was more muddy and yellow. The filter I have looks just like aluminium foil and it gives a blueish colour. Unfortunately, I do not remember the make. I suggest you ask at a place that sells telescopes. My filter is from such a place, but your tip is useful anyway: Thinking about it now, I might find a better filter by looking again. I was in quite a hurry when I bought it, since the eclipse I planned to shoot was imminent, and I had to settle for what they had in stock. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
Re: Semi OT: Anyone do a big print yet
Hi Bruce. Thanks. Jeff,Frank,David Chang-Sang and myself also saw a similar sized print(from a D100) at Downtown camera at our last TOpdml meet. It sure was impressive, and knowing the sensors were the same,made me think even harder.:-) But i am still amazed at the print from a sensor 1.8 mp's lower than the *istD.Thats what made be think,and ask the question. Dave > Dave, > > I saw at my lab a 20X30 done on a D100 - same sensor as the *istD. > Looked pretty darn good. I have a sneaking feeling that a 67 neg > would have done better. I plan to blow something up that big soon. > I'll let you know how it goes. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce
RE: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004
Cotty wrote: > My Pentax wish for 2004 is that the company starts to embark > on the very beginnings of a concerted effort to try and > initiate a few first tantalising steps on the road to setting > out along the path that leads to a determined effort to build > up the brand and turn it into the world- ranking photographic > market leader it once was. They seem to have their own unique movable introduction dates for equipment. With apologies to Graywolf, I've always thought his signature line should read "You might as well accept Pentax as they are, you are not going to change them anyway". Malcolm
Re: It's official!
Where are you located? Robert in Greenville SC - Original Message - From: "Patrick Wunsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 8:36 PM Subject: It's official! > It's now official. There are no local film processing labs in the area I > live in. The last one closed today. > > Do any of you have any recommendations on where to find a decent mail order > film processing? I use Fuji color-slide and film primarily. Thanks > > Pat > >
Re: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004
Quoting zoomshot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > May I wish all of you and your families a very happy new year. What are your > Pentax wishes for 2004? Happy new year to you too, Ziggy. My wish is for time to wield my cameras more. And I know GFM will give a good contribution to make it come true...:-) Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
No grain as a digital advantage?
Did I hear right in posts earlier this week? Did somebody suggest that digital was replacing medium format in Wedding photography because the results looked better -- smoother or whatever? A post by Bill Robb made me aware of different needs for sharpness in Wedding Photos, for coming down the aisle snaps vs formal portraits. So does a 6 megapixel Pentax digital replace a 6x7 for the formal portraits based on the lack of grain - textures & tonality, and the sharpness of the photos is not an issue? Regards, Bob S.
RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)
snip Around here I am usually introduced as a photographer. Happened once as I was with Minolta Girl at a wine/art fest at a gallery. A mutual photographer friend introduced me to one of her friends as a photographer. Well Minolta Girl had to speak up to say she was a photographer too! We still get a kick out of that one. snip I think we have the makings of a new comic book series here. The Pentax Ambassador and Minolta Girl. Stan Lee, are you listening? Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >May I wish all of you and your families a very happy new year. What are your >Pentax wishes for 2004? That's a very interesting question. My Pentax wish for 2004 is that the company starts to embark on the very beginnings of a concerted effort to try and initiate a few first tantalising steps on the road to setting out along the path that leads to a determined effort to build up the brand and turn it into the world- ranking photographic market leader it once was. (I hope it gets stronger again.) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: HNY
On 1/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> It's an hour and a bit to midnight in Australia, so unless we have any >> PDMLers sprinkled out in the south Pacific, may I wish everyone a pleasant >> and peaceful 2004. > >Yeah there's at least one of us. 2 hours ahead of Sydney :) > >We're on daylight savings time so I think that makes us GMT+13. > >Cheers, > >- Dave > >http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Dave, how could I forget you. I was thinking more in terms of the islands dotted about in the south seas somewhere... Is there anyone else on this list east of New Zealand, but west of Hawaii?? This list is so far-reaching, there's bound to be a PDMLer with one foot in either hemisphere Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
OT: Champagne......Re: Happy New Year!!
- Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" Subject: Re: Happy New Year!! > > Bill said: "... and I am sipping on Champagne that I made using the > traditional method..." > > Ok, that sounds very ominous... exactly what is the "traditional method"?!? > http://www.champagne.us/tradition/method.html Technically, what I produced is a Cava, since I don't live in the right part of the world to make Champagne. William Robb
Re: A New Year's present to all of you...FROM all of you!
That was great. I wasn't quoted but I feel honored that this one was directed at me: > "I don't much like your idea of this new millennium if it > means not getting the fucking job done." > - Dr E D F Williams Thanks Mark! (and Don!) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004
Pentax release a DSLR better than the *istD at the same price?? JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A Happy New Year - Your Wishes for 2004 May I wish all of you and your families a very happy new year. What are your Pentax wishes for 2004? Ziggy
