Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?
I was frustrated with the lack of a ~50mm f2.8 1:1 MF macro lens in K-mount from Pentax until a found a Vivitar that did the trick. It's a 55mm f2.8 MF macro that does 1:1 without an adapter. I never could get used to AF macros, and I didn't want to go to the original Takumar macro (the only Pentax 50mm MF macro to do 1:1, IIRC), so this was the perfect lens for the LX. Chris On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:48:38 +1000, David Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come on Rob, you've got to get it so I can have a go (-: > Seriously, doesn't 1:1 and QSF appeal to you? (Unseriously -) The lure > of something new and shiny? (-: > The other glut I've noticed on eBay is the 40mm M pancakes. Odd. > You wonder if people actually invest in lenses - and when they think > that demand/price will fall they want to get rid of them before it does. > > Cheers (now I'm off to bed for a little while), > David > > > > > Rob Studdert wrote: > > On 25 Sep 2004 at 11:12, David Nelson wrote: > > > > > >>You're still planning to get the D-FA right? > > > > > > Not sure, not all that impressed with Pentax at the moment and my current kit > > is doing all I expect it to do. > > > > > > Rob Studdert > > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > > >
Re: A random snapshot
Dang. And here I was hoping for at least one good argument on missile defence. Ah well... Oh, I've got a few gmail invites to give away, so if anyone's interested, write me off-list. You get 1GB of storage, the ability to send 10MB attachments, and a cool interface that groups threads as a series of sequential posts on the same page. Very cool. Chris On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:27:04 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Brogden wrote: > > Whatever happened to politics, Mafud, and C/N bashing? > > Bush will win anyway, Mafud is gone and we all switched either to C or > N. So we just post some pics from time to time and debate metering. > Sorry, Chris
Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?
Come on Rob, you've got to get it so I can have a go (-: Seriously, doesn't 1:1 and QSF appeal to you? (Unseriously -) The lure of something new and shiny? (-: The other glut I've noticed on eBay is the 40mm M pancakes. Odd. You wonder if people actually invest in lenses - and when they think that demand/price will fall they want to get rid of them before it does. Cheers (now I'm off to bed for a little while), David Rob Studdert wrote: On 25 Sep 2004 at 11:12, David Nelson wrote: You're still planning to get the D-FA right? Not sure, not all that impressed with Pentax at the moment and my current kit is doing all I expect it to do. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1
Err... forgot to show you cave wheels: http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/x/47859
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
Herb, they had to set up the tooling for the mount they are using now, it would have cost no more to set up tooling for a mount with full compatibility, your argument holds no water, it is pure sophistry. Herb Chong wrote: on a different assembly line from one that had the tooling already in place for about 10 years, it costs a lot. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! Think about it, the tooling would have cost the same either way. It's not exactly like a new design was necessary. Re-tooling would add to the project cost, if it were done now. I'm not even sure that re-tooling would be necessary, I haven't taken a *ist-d apart, anyone been that brave yet? -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1
Also known as a bitch-wagon. Wonder how a real man like Bill could have such poor taste when it comes to buying his truck. Daniel Matyola wrote: Looks like a real Gas Guzzler. -- Original Message -- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:09:05 +0100 Excellent taste in transport! Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com
Re: National symbols
it starts with laughing. -- Original Message -- From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:31:14 -0400 >That's OK, they are laughing at you because your tastes and behavior are >a bit different than theirs. > >What you have to watch out for are people who think they have the right, >even the duty, to exterminate you because your tastes and behaviors are >a bit different than theirs. Unfortunately there seems to be all too >many of them in the world. > Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:12:40 -0400, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. I've found that showing some photos taken with the Optio S or > Optio MX and printed on the Frontier 375 show the average consumer they > NORMALLY don't need more than 3 megapixels for the usual 4x6 snapshot. > > Bill Our Noritsu has made some great 8x10's from 3MP cameras. Nothing that I'd be happy with at close range, but it's rare to find a customer who can find any fault with them. If you want to crop, though, that's a whole different story. It's rare that I have to explain much beyond the basics when it comes to digital photography. Apart from the rare customers (usually middle aged people too busy/lazy to read a manual or too insecure to think they could understand it) who want to know every single feature, people seem to want to know only how to use it as simply as possible. Chris
Re: For KEITH WHALEY (Re: Friday: Donations Needed)
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Keith My email to you keeps bouncing. Seems I, or my ISP, are on your blocked list. So, here's my response to your public and private email. Something wrong with my ISP, it seems. You aren't alone in being bounced... All in the last couple of days. = Hi Keith ... What details do you need? What must I do to persuade you to part with a camera or two? Nothing. I will get on it right away. All I _really_ needed was an address! The workshop would like working cameras, ideally of the type described in my original request, although we do have a legally blind fellow who could use an autofocus camera.. Can't help you there. I've never had an autofocus K-mount body... All mine are manual. Any lenses would be icing on the cake, so to speak. If you've got something that you care to donate, send the item(s) to me: SHEL BELINKOFF PO BOX 1489 EL CERRITO CA 94530-4489 The color film may be useful, bit only marginally so. But we'll take it ;-)) These are film cameras, of course. What will you do for film then? I won't send any film from my stock unless it's needed. What more do you need? IAC, Thanks so VERY much. Shel Most welcome. I'll get a couple packaged up this weekend. The biggest delay will be deciding which ones! sighhh. I'll send a K1000, for certain. At least 99%. What a fine mechanical camera... I'll get to thinking about the others. Oh, and each will have a lens of some sort. Probably 50mm. Maybe a zoom... keith You said to contact you offline. Here I am. I have a few -- well, more than a few -- K-mount bodies, one or two of which I might be persuaded to part with, for a good cause. More details, please! No doubt I'll have some questions... Shel Belinkoff wrote: This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street Photography Workshop (http://www.sixthstreetphoto.org) in San Francisco. It's a volunteer position. I'm teaching a few basic photography classes and doing some darkroom work for them, printing for an upcoming exhibition. [...]
Re: '05 PUG themes
I was hoping for a year of "homework". Gives people a chance to pick up a book & learn a technique. 1. Single-light portrait or still life. 2. 1-second exposure 3. 1/1000-second exposure Think outside the mirror box. Sincerely, C.Brendemuehl "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." Ronald Reagan ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1
Looks like a real Gas Guzzler. -- Original Message -- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:09:05 +0100 >Excellent taste in transport! Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com
Re: A random snapshot
Chris Brogden wrote: Whatever happened to politics, Mafud, and C/N bashing? Bush will win anyway, Mafud is gone and we all switched either to C or N. So we just post some pics from time to time and debate metering. Sorry, Chris
Re: National symbols
For "the more moronic ones"? Nice. I was tying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you are making it hard. -- Original Message -- From: Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:28:59 +0200 >And Daniel, I certainly didn't want to insult any Americans with that. >The post was intercepted with two smileys / :) / for >the more moronic ones. Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com
Re: A random snapshot
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:57:35 -0400, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can shoot totally manual too, even without a light > meter. What does that prove with regards to the subject? > Nothing. I was arguing open aperture TTL metering > is better than stop down TTL metering, not whether I > absolutely depended on either...Its an OPTIONAL feature, > an inferior OPTIONAL feature compared to the open aperture > metering OPTIONAL feature. > JCO And a separate spot meter is better than both, and an incident meter is often better than a reflective meter, and a Sony F828 is better than an F717, and Canon is better than Pentax, and who cares? If it works for you, use it. If it doesn't, either learn to make it work or stop whining and do something different. Thought I'd pop by the list again with my brand spankin' new gmail address to see what's been happening, and the only argument going on is about metering? Makes me nostalgic for the good ol' days. Whatever happened to politics, Mafud, and C/N bashing? chris
RE: Long, Fast Glass-Where to Buy?
I am currently selling all my Pentax gear. I have been hanging on to my Tonkina AT-X 300 2.8 just in case I decided to get an IST-D, but I have gone the Nikon route If you are interested drop me an E-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I can give you any details. If not it will be on E-bay sometimes soon. It is in very good shape. Manual Focus (but very smooth and fast) I also have a 1.7 AF convertor that I can add into the deal. I have tried this rig on a friend's IST-D and it is a honking good 750mm equivalent. I used it a lot on my PZ-1P and had excellent results. If anyone is interested, I still have a 645 body, 75mm and 150 lenses, 120 and 220 inserts. Also an assortment of 35mm lenses. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: Fine Art Paper Recommendations
whatever you do, note that usually archival life goes way down on a lot of papers. you may find that the Epson inks on Epson papers last the longest. did you receive your 4000 yet? Herb... - Original Message - From: "Larry Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Fine Art Paper Recommendations > I would like some recommendations from users who have personally used fine > art papers for printing. What papers have you used and liked or disliked? I > have some 13x19 Velvet Fine Art from Epson, so I know about it. Hahnemuhle > has a large number of papers but I know nothing about how they perform. Any > experience in these papers?
Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?
On 25 Sep 2004 at 11:12, David Nelson wrote: > You're still planning to get the D-FA right? Not sure, not all that impressed with Pentax at the moment and my current kit is doing all I expect it to do. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *ist D's relative file size capability
Rob, Thanks! Very helpful. I'm assigning your response to a folder for future reference. Considerate of you to take the time. Jack --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24 Sep 2004 at 14:33, Jack Davis wrote: > > > I'm curious about all things photographic > including > > digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, > seems > > logical to check out the *ist D. While several > have > > been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a > > wonderful camera", I've also noted the many > serious > > praises. > > Please help me understand what I read under the > (more > > info) Specification tab on the B&H site: > > 10D: Raw+Large=8.0MB Fine. > > 20D: Raw+jpeg(Large)=12.3MB. > > *ist D: Large(Raw)=10.5MB (Tiff)=18.1MB > > All note as "excluding memory". > > The only one which seems to track with its sensor > is > > the 10D. > > Trick wording? Meaningful? ...anyone? > > Hi Jack, > > These file sizes are not really meaningful, beyond > an indication of how many > shots you can expect to cram onto your chosen > storage media. > > RAW files in their most basic form consist of a > transcription of the RAW values > corresponding to each pixel in the array, some of > these are image forming and > some are not. Secondly the bit depth of the ADC may > be 12 bits but the RAW data > may be padded (with zeros) to provide a 2 byte word > or 16 bits per pixel, > obviously these extra 4 bits per pixel are redundant > but it still increases the > RAW file size. > > On top of this some RAW file formats are stored > uncompressed, some are > compressed, most also contain EXIF information which > can vary between camera > models and also some (like the *ist D RAW files) can > include an embedded JPG > file. > > Most cameras offer similar capabilities WRT noise > and exposure latitude and > from my experience far more differences will be seen > between the various post > processing methods. Generally the in camera > processing (TIFF & JPEG) output > really is little indication of the information that > can be extracted from most > camera RAW files in post processing. > > > How does the *ist D's Dynamic Range compare? > > The capture latitude of the *ist D is very similar > to most other cameras of the > same age (better than most slide film but poorer > than the most forgiving colour > neg film) but you won't really get to see what it > can do if you don't shoot RAW > and use a good post processing tool like PS CS. The > output differences between > the Pentax Photolab program and PC CS RAW is > startling, I didn't realize how > bad the Pentax program was (and it was much better > than the in camera generated > files). > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: Fine Art Paper Recommendations
Hahnemuhle Fine Art is perhaps a slightly nicer texture than Epson's, but the ink chips off much easier. It's a great paper, but the finished prints are very fragile. Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 9:12 PM, Larry Hodgson wrote: I would like some recommendations from users who have personally used fine art papers for printing. What papers have you used and liked or disliked? I have some 13x19 Velvet Fine Art from Epson, so I know about it. Hahnemuhle has a large number of papers but I know nothing about how they perform. Any experience in these papers? Larry from Prescott
Re: '05 PUG themes
Bingo! I'd say that's a wrap. Good thinking from both you and Frank. Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 7:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Steady" responded to knarf's post thus: Some good ideas here. I especially like the food gallery and the anachronisms. I'm not much of a food photographer, but I'm very fond of food :-). I agree -- good ideas. I think I like the idea of calling that one theme "old things" rather than "anachronisms" though -- makes it a bit looser. Maybe the "smaller than a bread box" could be called "small things"? How about: Small Big Old New Black White Red Yellow Blue Green Food Drink .. and continue having "Open" galleries each month in addition to the themed ones. ERN - frank's post: HEY, LET'S PLAY A GAME!!! I think that we should get going with some suggestions. That way Adelheid will have something to work with (she'll only have to whittle it down from about 150 suggestions to 12 themes). Okay, I'll start. We could do a Black and White gallery, 'cause we always do that once a year. We could resurrect a Synchronicity gallery. I know there've been complaints in the past, but we didn't do it last year - we could try it again, just to see what happens. After all, unlike past years, people can always enter a non-themed photo that month, so no one will be "left out in the cold" as it were. I know that a true macro gallery has been (rightly) nixed, as not everyone has the equipment, but maybe we could have a "Small" gallery. Or, to narrow it down a bit, "Smaller than a Breadbox". That could be fun... Food. I don't recall having a food gallery in the past. Paul Stenquist would win , but I'd like to take a shot at making edible things blurry . I kind of like the "emotion" themes we've had in the past. One can really go to town interpreting those babies, and it's interesting to see how everyone puts that sort of thing into an image. Something like Happy, Sad, Joy, Surprise. Not all of those, of course, but for one month it would be a blast, IMHO. How about "old things". We could call it Anachronisms or something. I'd send in a pic of my ex-wife (she better not see this) . I could go on, but I think I'll leave the real good ones for those with imaginations. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love
Great shot. He's lucky that she loves him for his politics :-) Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 7:36 PM, frank theriault wrote: Even in the midst of mass protest, the call for popular revolt and the demand for the overthrow of our government, love will find a way : http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2725774&size=lg Comments always encouraged. Thanks. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Fine Art Paper Recommendations
I would like some recommendations from users who have personally used fine art papers for printing. What papers have you used and liked or disliked? I have some 13x19 Velvet Fine Art from Epson, so I know about it. Hahnemuhle has a large number of papers but I know nothing about how they perform. Any experience in these papers? Larry from Prescott
Re: OT Flooded with 50mm macros?
Yeah, I've noticed... mostly posting to the US only otherwise I'd be sorely tempted. But of course, we all want the D-FA don't we (-: I can imagine all those poor people selling their 50 macros being rather upset about not having one for ages until the D-FAs turn up in the shops (-: Actually, the only thing that holds me back from the A is that it only goes to 1:2... I'm waiting for the FAs to turn up on eBay dirt cheap (-: You're still planning to get the D-FA right? Gotta get my act together and get some stuff up on eBay - I need cash! Cheers, David Rob Studdert wrote: Had anyone seen how many A50/2.8 macros have been flooding though eBay of late? I wonder why they have all come out of hiding of late? The imminent introduction of the FAD50 macro perhaps? In any case they seem to be going for a song, so if anyone wants a pointer to a serious lens that works really well on the *ist D (virtually at the resolution limit from f2.8 through to f16) now is the time it seems. And no I'm not selling mine :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: Annother panorama
Click on the "Full Size" button at the bottom-right of the screen (not on "Previous" or "Next") and you'll see the full monti! Maris frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0200, Jens Bladt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 >> AM). >> >> Thie original image file in 72 ppi was 7 meters long!!! >> Sorry 'bout the overexposure/burned out high lights! >> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html >> > > Sadly, the pano is so small on my screen, I can't really get an proper > idea of how it looks. There's simply no detail, other than some boats > and a shoreline in the background, and even then it's hard to see.
Re: A random snapshot
William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Ann Sanfedele" > Subject: Re: A random snapshot > > >(snip) > > ann said > > Your hands are a lot steady than mine - :) > > Bruce Rubenstein said the same thing. > LOL! > Thanks for looking > b thanks for shotting something worth looking at :) a...
Re: *ist D's relative file size capability
On 25 Sep 2004 at 1:34, John Forbes wrote: > Rob, > > Any chance you could post samples of similar images recorded initially as JPG > and RAW? Or at least point to a URL? I have resisted buying PS CS (have > Elements) so far, and want to try and evaluate how big the difference is, and > whether, for my less critical eye, it is worth paying for CS. Hi John, No problems, I did the same experiment for some one else not long ago, I'm happy to share. Quick and dirty flash shot. PEF processed using PhotoLab, sRGB (embedded using PS) http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/_igp6865.jpg PEF processed using PS CS, sRGB http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/sRGB_IMGP6865.jpg PEF processed using PS CS, PhotoPro (should look pretty drab in a web browser) http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/PhotoPro_IMGP6865.jpg Photolab can only process files relative to AdobeRGB or sRGB colour spaces and it doesn't embed the colour space information so your apps have to be able to assign the CS on recognizing that there is no embedded colour space, this is a real PITA. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Annother panorama
And another fantastic photo! Thank you once again. Maris Jens Bladt wrote: > Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 > AM). > I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 > shots) in RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then > converted them to JPEG's in Phase One SE (trial version) and stitched > them together in Foto Vista 3.0. I like this nature reserve very > much. It has been appointed an international habitat for birds by the > EU. The nature reserve is off limits (for humans) from April 15th. to > July 1st. > > Thie original image file in 72 ppi was 7 meters long!!! > Sorry 'bout the overexposure/burned out high lights! > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
on a different assembly line from one that had the tooling already in place for about 10 years, it costs a lot. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! > Think about it, the tooling would have cost the same either way. It's > not exactly like a new design was necessary. > Re-tooling would add to the project cost, if it were done now. > I'm not even sure that re-tooling would be necessary, I haven't taken a > *ist-d apart, anyone been that brave yet?
Re: PESO: John Coyle
You weren't? William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PESO: John Coyle A very nice portrait, Ryan. You've made a pdml member look kind, caring and gentle. The things one can to with a dslr! Oh right, and next you are going to say that I looked like I was going to bite that little dog's head off. Nice shot, btw, Ryan. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
Think about it, the tooling would have cost the same either way. It's not exactly like a new design was necessary. Re-tooling would add to the project cost, if it were done now. I'm not even sure that re-tooling would be necessary, I haven't taken a *ist-d apart, anyone been that brave yet? Herb Chong wrote: the cost of the part would have been minimal, but the assembly line tooling wouldn't have been. for a camera that has to cost Pentax at most $500 to make, and probably under $400, a production run of well under 100K, on a brand new line, when the company had lost money for 3 years in a row before, it had to cut all costs possible. they had no intention of full support from the beginning and the firmware update was a fortuitous coincidence of the hardware design. new lenses going forth aren't going to have aperture rings and everything A and forward works fully. they made a good business decision to drop full support for pre A lenses. with the faster drop in price than planned and significantly lower than forecast sales, the *istD could net losing money anyway. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! That's right tooling and assembly jigs cost considerably more, if it's designed in from the beginning the additional cost can be minuscule. In this case it probably would have been. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: *ist D's relative file size capability
Rob, Any chance you could post samples of similar images recorded initially as JPG and RAW? Or at least point to a URL? I have resisted buying PS CS (have Elements) so far, and want to try and evaluate how big the difference is, and whether, for my less critical eye, it is worth paying for CS. Thanks John On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:23:14 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 24 Sep 2004 at 14:33, Jack Davis wrote: I'm curious about all things photographic including digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, seems logical to check out the *ist D. While several have been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a wonderful camera", I've also noted the many serious praises. Please help me understand what I read under the (more info) Specification tab on the B&H site: 10D: Raw+Large=8.0MB Fine. 20D: Raw+jpeg(Large)=12.3MB. *ist D: Large(Raw)=10.5MB (Tiff)=18.1MB All note as "excluding memory". The only one which seems to track with its sensor is the 10D. Trick wording? Meaningful? ...anyone? Hi Jack, These file sizes are not really meaningful, beyond an indication of how many shots you can expect to cram onto your chosen storage media. RAW files in their most basic form consist of a transcription of the RAW values corresponding to each pixel in the array, some of these are image forming and some are not. Secondly the bit depth of the ADC may be 12 bits but the RAW data may be padded (with zeros) to provide a 2 byte word or 16 bits per pixel, obviously these extra 4 bits per pixel are redundant but it still increases the RAW file size. On top of this some RAW file formats are stored uncompressed, some are compressed, most also contain EXIF information which can vary between camera models and also some (like the *ist D RAW files) can include an embedded JPG file. Most cameras offer similar capabilities WRT noise and exposure latitude and from my experience far more differences will be seen between the various post processing methods. Generally the in camera processing (TIFF & JPEG) output really is little indication of the information that can be extracted from most camera RAW files in post processing. How does the *ist D's Dynamic Range compare? The capture latitude of the *ist D is very similar to most other cameras of the same age (better than most slide film but poorer than the most forgiving colour neg film) but you won't really get to see what it can do if you don't shoot RAW and use a good post processing tool like PS CS. The output differences between the Pentax Photolab program and PC CS RAW is startling, I didn't realize how bad the Pentax program was (and it was much better than the in camera generated files). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
On 24 Sep 2004 at 17:21, John Bailey wrote: > What was wrong with it? It was a lovely high quality piece of plastic that scratches very easily and needs to be cleaned often. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
OT Flooded with 50mm macros?
Had anyone seen how many A50/2.8 macros have been flooding though eBay of late? I wonder why they have all come out of hiding of late? The imminent introduction of the FAD50 macro perhaps? In any case they seem to be going for a song, so if anyone wants a pointer to a serious lens that works really well on the *ist D (virtually at the resolution limit from f2.8 through to f16) now is the time it seems. And no I'm not selling mine :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love
Nice, Frank. Joe
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
Alan, So you actually got a Hoya SHMC uv filter and "modified" it to fit? JB --- Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do wear glasses. The new glass eyepiece was > made from the HOYA HMC SUPER > UV filter. > > Alan Chan > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > >Do you wear glasses? What exactly is this mc > >eyepiece. I couldn't tell from your gallery > >shots. > >
Re: *ist D's relative file size capability
On 24 Sep 2004 at 14:33, Jack Davis wrote: > I'm curious about all things photographic including > digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, seems > logical to check out the *ist D. While several have > been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a > wonderful camera", I've also noted the many serious > praises. > Please help me understand what I read under the (more > info) Specification tab on the B&H site: > 10D: Raw+Large=8.0MB Fine. > 20D: Raw+jpeg(Large)=12.3MB. > *ist D: Large(Raw)=10.5MB (Tiff)=18.1MB > All note as "excluding memory". > The only one which seems to track with its sensor is > the 10D. > Trick wording? Meaningful? ...anyone? Hi Jack, These file sizes are not really meaningful, beyond an indication of how many shots you can expect to cram onto your chosen storage media. RAW files in their most basic form consist of a transcription of the RAW values corresponding to each pixel in the array, some of these are image forming and some are not. Secondly the bit depth of the ADC may be 12 bits but the RAW data may be padded (with zeros) to provide a 2 byte word or 16 bits per pixel, obviously these extra 4 bits per pixel are redundant but it still increases the RAW file size. On top of this some RAW file formats are stored uncompressed, some are compressed, most also contain EXIF information which can vary between camera models and also some (like the *ist D RAW files) can include an embedded JPG file. Most cameras offer similar capabilities WRT noise and exposure latitude and from my experience far more differences will be seen between the various post processing methods. Generally the in camera processing (TIFF & JPEG) output really is little indication of the information that can be extracted from most camera RAW files in post processing. > How does the *ist D's Dynamic Range compare? The capture latitude of the *ist D is very similar to most other cameras of the same age (better than most slide film but poorer than the most forgiving colour neg film) but you won't really get to see what it can do if you don't shoot RAW and use a good post processing tool like PS CS. The output differences between the Pentax Photolab program and PC CS RAW is startling, I didn't realize how bad the Pentax program was (and it was much better than the in camera generated files). Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
What was wrong with it? JB --- Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are crazy, Alan. But that doesn't mean you > are not smart. You have > been complaining about that eyepiece for as > long as I remember, now you > have fixed it. Way to go. > > -- > > Alan Chan wrote: > > Am I crazy or not? > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/pentax_z1p_custom_eyepiece > > > > Alan Chan > > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > > > > _ > > Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses > from your inbound and > > outbound e-mail and attachments. > > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® > Premium right now and get the > > first two months FREE*. > > > > > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html > > >
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
That's what I thought when I first saw it, apparently Zenit copied the Pentax 110 look for a "modern" 35mm model. Graywolf wrote: It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. -- Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO: John Coyle
Frank, you don't know how hard Ryan had to work to get that impression! It was near midnight and I was definitely feeling like a GOM (grumpy old man, for those who didn't work it out). Tanja was sorely missed, but we'll be able to get together again next month, she tells me - and at least she had a very good reason for not showing up! Here's a shot taken just before Ryan left... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2725824 John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Re: PESO: John Coyle On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:39:47 +1000, Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Earlier this evening we had a super mini- BrisbanePDML, aka the Tanless Evening (Tanya didn't show up because.. well, Tanya you explain..).Nevertheless, more scrumptious (courtesy Jan Coyle, ta!) food for the 3 of us (Tan, you weren't missed! :P bleah.). So anyway, here's a shot of John Coyle: http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/IMGP1264s.JPG ist D, F 50 1.4, 800, 1/10 handheld, flash WB, centre weighted, spot focus, sharpness 2, saturation 0, large jpg (don't you love exif info..) and given a resize to 25% in PSP, and also sharpened an incy bit. There's more to come, but Ryan needs his sleep! A very nice portrait, Ryan. You've made a pdml member look kind, caring and gentle. The things one can to with a dslr! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
On 24 Sep 2004 at 19:51, Caveman wrote: > 3 fps wouldn't be that bad, you go move a light then come back at the > camera and take a look etc question is can you do that without pressing > the shutter release and actually writing and filling up the memory card > ? That's 3fps without demosaicing, I'm sure the frames could be written to buffer and then displayed but it would be pretty slow and unless you could set a zoom factor that would stick it would be worthless other than for framing and for an idea of exposure. > I'm certain it could be useful with macro arrangements too. Hmmm, that's what I use the optical VF for :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO: Santa's helpers
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:56:37 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's them Bell Sympatico acting again, their web hosting servers are > working with interruptions. I also get low transfer speed and extremely > poor name server services (I have to try 3-4 times until a name resolves). > Can anyone recommend me some reliable DSL service provider in Montreal > area ? I had quite enough of this. > Can't recommend anything, but I'll try looking at your piccie later... -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love
Nice pic. Others (!) might have cropped it, but in fact the two faces either side frame it well and reinforce the feeling of being in a crowd. And I hate to use the F word, so I won't. There's no need. Can't argue with his taste either! John On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 19:36:24 -0400, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even in the midst of mass protest, the call for popular revolt and the demand for the overthrow of our government, love will find a way : http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2725774&size=lg Comments always encouraged. Thanks. cheers, frank -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:54:04 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They sure need a shampoo! > Apparently, hygene is a bourgeois concept, as well as sharpness. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
For KEITH WHALEY (Re: Friday: Donations Needed)
Hi Keith My email to you keeps bouncing. Seems I, or my ISP, are on your blocked list. So, here's my response to your public and private email. = Hi Keith ... What details do you need? What must I do to persuade you to part with a camera or two? The workshop would like working cameras, ideally of the type described in my original request, although we do have a legally blind fellow who could use an autofocus camera.. Any lenses would be icing on the cake, so to speak. If you've got something that you care to donate, send the item(s) to me: SHEL BELINKOFF PO BOX 1489 EL CERRITO CA 94530-4489 The color film may be useful, bit only marginally so. But we'll take it ;-)) What more do you need? IAC, Thanks so VERY much. Shel > You said to contact you offline. > Here I am. > > I have a few -- well, more than a few -- K-mount bodies, one or two of > which I might be persuaded to part with, for a good cause. > > More details, please! > No doubt I'll have some questions... > [Original Message] > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 9/24/2004 12:43:28 PM > Subject: Re: Friday: Donations Needed > > Added P.S. -- > > I have some 35mm film (36 exposure, Supra 400 Pro color neg.) that is > slightly out of date, but good stuff. Has always been refrigerated. > I'd be happy to send 6 or 8 rolls of that along too. > > Lemme know. > > keith > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street Photography Workshop > > (http://www.sixthstreetphoto.org) in San Francisco. It's a volunteer > > position. I'm teaching a few basic photography classes and doing > > some darkroom work for them, printing for an upcoming exhibition. > > [...]
Re: PESO: Santa's helpers
It's them Bell Sympatico acting again, their web hosting servers are working with interruptions. I also get low transfer speed and extremely poor name server services (I have to try 3-4 times until a name resolves). Can anyone recommend me some reliable DSL service provider in Montreal area ? I had quite enough of this. frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 10:13:35 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fooling around with photoshop: http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/Santa.html For the yankees that don't believe in reindeers ;-) Sadly, I don't seem to be able to connect to the image. Is it just me, or did you move/remove it? cheers, frank
Re: PAW: Young Commies in Love
frank theriault wrote: Even in the midst of mass protest, the call for popular revolt and the demand for the overthrow of our government, love will find a way : They sure need a shampoo! I remember a long time ago, when a drinkin' buddy and I used to visit a couple of local pubs after work, and sit at the bar and discuss the women we saw. "Ahh, that one is pretty sharp lookin', but she sure needs a good bath..." Heh, heh... That was one of the more common comments. keith http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2725774&size=lg Comments always encouraged. Thanks. cheers, frank
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. > > -- Hi Tom, The article is probably fake, but the camera is a Zenit KM, or at least almost identical to that. See: http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenit_cameras.htm and http://www.rugift.com/photocameras/zenit_camera_km.htm Ciao, Gianfranco = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: '05 PUG themes
Some good ideas here. I especially like the food gallery and the anachronisms. I'm not much of a food photographer, but I'm very fond of food :-). Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 6:41 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:54:17 -0400 (EDT), CRB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have the themes for '05 been set yet? Not that I've seen or heard. HEY, LET'S PLAY A GAME!!! I think that we should get going with some suggestions. That way Adelheid will have something to work with (she'll only have to whittle it down from about 150 suggestions to 12 themes). Okay, I'll start. We could do a Black and White gallery, 'cause we always do that once a year. We could resurrect a Synchronicity gallery. I know there've been complaints in the past, but we didn't do it last year - we could try it again, just to see what happens. After all, unlike past years, people can always enter a non-themed photo that month, so no one will be "left out in the cold" as it were. I know that a true macro gallery has been (rightly) nixed, as not everyone has the equipment, but maybe we could have a "Small" gallery. Or, to narrow it down a bit, "Smaller than a Breadbox". That could be fun... Food. I don't recall having a food gallery in the past. Paul Stenquist would win , but I'd like to take a shot at making edible things blurry . I kind of like the "emotion" themes we've had in the past. One can really go to town interpreting those babies, and it's interesting to see how everyone puts that sort of thing into an image. Something like Happy, Sad, Joy, Surprise. Not all of those, of course, but for one month it would be a blast, IMHO. How about "old things". We could call it Anachronisms or something. I'd send in a pic of my ex-wife (she better not see this) . I could go on, but I think I'll leave the real good ones for those with imaginations. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: istDs - what a great camera!
the cost of the part would have been minimal, but the assembly line tooling wouldn't have been. for a camera that has to cost Pentax at most $500 to make, and probably under $400, a production run of well under 100K, on a brand new line, when the company had lost money for 3 years in a row before, it had to cut all costs possible. they had no intention of full support from the beginning and the firmware update was a fortuitous coincidence of the hardware design. new lenses going forth aren't going to have aperture rings and everything A and forward works fully. they made a good business decision to drop full support for pre A lenses. with the faster drop in price than planned and significantly lower than forecast sales, the *istD could net losing money anyway. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! > That's right tooling and assembly jigs cost considerably more, if it's > designed in from the beginning the additional cost > can be minuscule. In this case it probably would have been.
Re: Another vacation picture
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:26:22 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's on leave. > WW > After the harrowing journey back from Afghanistan on one of our leaky, rat-infested troop carriers, he deserves a vacation... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Kelowna, British Columbia
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:04:12 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, If anyone on the list is living in, or near, Kelowna, BC, Canada, > could you please contact me offlist at: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thanks > > William Robb Left something behind at a bar? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: John Coyle
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 02:39:47 +1000, Ryan Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Earlier this evening we had a super mini- BrisbanePDML, aka the Tanless > Evening (Tanya didn't show up because.. well, Tanya you > explain..).Nevertheless, more scrumptious (courtesy Jan Coyle, ta!) food for > the 3 of us (Tan, you weren't missed! :P bleah.). So anyway, here's a shot > of John Coyle: > http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/IMGP1264s.JPG > > ist D, F 50 1.4, 800, 1/10 handheld, flash WB, centre weighted, spot focus, > sharpness 2, saturation 0, large jpg (don't you love exif info..) > and given a resize to 25% in PSP, and also sharpened an incy bit. > > There's more to come, but Ryan needs his sleep! A very nice portrait, Ryan. You've made a pdml member look kind, caring and gentle. The things one can to with a dslr! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Annother panorama
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:31:21 -0400, Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Click on the "previous" button and you'll get to the really good stuff > ;-) ;-) ;-) Hey, now ~that's~ a great shot!! Such vivid colours, great composition/framing, beautiful lady. What's not to like? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: '05 PUG themes
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:54:17 -0400 (EDT), CRB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have the themes for '05 been set yet? Not that I've seen or heard. HEY, LET'S PLAY A GAME!!! I think that we should get going with some suggestions. That way Adelheid will have something to work with (she'll only have to whittle it down from about 150 suggestions to 12 themes). Okay, I'll start. We could do a Black and White gallery, 'cause we always do that once a year. We could resurrect a Synchronicity gallery. I know there've been complaints in the past, but we didn't do it last year - we could try it again, just to see what happens. After all, unlike past years, people can always enter a non-themed photo that month, so no one will be "left out in the cold" as it were. I know that a true macro gallery has been (rightly) nixed, as not everyone has the equipment, but maybe we could have a "Small" gallery. Or, to narrow it down a bit, "Smaller than a Breadbox". That could be fun... Food. I don't recall having a food gallery in the past. Paul Stenquist would win , but I'd like to take a shot at making edible things blurry . I kind of like the "emotion" themes we've had in the past. One can really go to town interpreting those babies, and it's interesting to see how everyone puts that sort of thing into an image. Something like Happy, Sad, Joy, Surprise. Not all of those, of course, but for one month it would be a blast, IMHO. How about "old things". We could call it Anachronisms or something. I'd send in a pic of my ex-wife (she better not see this) . I could go on, but I think I'll leave the real good ones for those with imaginations. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Annother panorama
Click on the "previous" button and you'll get to the really good stuff ;-) ;-) ;-) frank theriault wrote: http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html Sadly, the pano is so small on my screen, I can't really get an proper idea of how it looks.
Re: A random snapshot
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:45:52 +0100, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is that the five minute relief, or the full half hour? I paid for five minutes, but it didn't take nearly that long. -knarf -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: how does image stabilisation work?
I would have thought that a maximum sensor shift of 1-2mm would be sensible to give 1-2 stops improvement. It's about 10% of the linear image dimension. Anything more than this wouldn't be compensating for camera shake, it would be used for earthquake stabilisation. Nick -Original Message- From: "Martin Trautmann"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 2004-09-23 18:45, Alin Flaider wrote: > MT> - how many millimeters is the sensor shifted for stabilisation? > > Anyway not more than 4 mm vertically (the gaps to full frame). Giving it some short computation, the max. image circle of 43 mm would permit ± 10 mm upwards, ± 8 mm sidewards.
Re: PESO: Annother panorama
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:08:50 +0200, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 AM). > I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 shots) in > RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then converted them to > JPEG's in Phase One SE (trial version) and stitched them together in Foto > Vista 3.0. I like this nature reserve very much. It has been appointed an > international habitat for birds by the EU. The nature reserve is off limits > (for humans) from April 15th. to July 1st. > > Thie original image file in 72 ppi was 7 meters long!!! > Sorry 'bout the overexposure/burned out high lights! > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html > Sadly, the pano is so small on my screen, I can't really get an proper idea of how it looks. There's simply no detail, other than some boats and a shoreline in the background, and even then it's hard to see. I'd love to see it properly printed and displayed, as I'm sure I'd like it, but as is, I really don't feel comfortable commenting on it, other than to say, "I'm sure it would look good blown up". cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Out to Pasture
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:05:58 -0400, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To impress the chicks, man! > Well, it hasn't worked so far... -theriault -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: Lens Value
I've seen two SMCP-A* ED Macro 200/4 sell on eBay, and have not yet seen a listing for one at any of the online stores I watch, including B&H, KEH, Adorama and many others. One of them sold on eBay in March 2003 and the other in June 2004. Their sale prices are recorded on page 6 of the June update file for SPLOSdb: SPLOSdb-2004-06-30.pdf at www.jcolwell.ca Jim www.jcolwell.ca P.S. I've also seen them occasionally on www.eBay.de and www.eBay.it, but I don't track them for SPLOSdb.
Re: lens value A*200/4 Macro
Don, I happily paid a list member $750 for one several years ago. This is a really rare lens. I've seen it go for over $1,000 (US) on ebay in recent months. I shot next month's (Oct'05) PUG contribution with it. Regards, Bob S. >>From: Don Herring Subject: Lens Value Greetings, I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head). Any assistance would be appreciated. Don
*ist D's relative file size capability
I'm curious about all things photographic including digital. Since I own nine 35mm Pentax lenses, seems logical to check out the *ist D. While several have been playing with the phrase; "*ist D..what a wonderful camera", I've also noted the many serious praises. Please help me understand what I read under the (more info) Specification tab on the B&H site: 10D: Raw+Large=8.0MB Fine. 20D: Raw+jpeg(Large)=12.3MB. *ist D: Large(Raw)=10.5MB (Tiff)=18.1MB All note as "excluding memory". The only one which seems to track with its sensor is the 10D. Trick wording? Meaningful? ...anyone? How does the *ist D's Dynamic Range compare? Thanks, Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: The root of all evil...
Working in the advertising biz, I've spent hundreds of hours searching Getty. Good stuff. it's the number one rip-off source for art director comps. Of course Getty knows that and they even help enable the ADs with relatively high res samples. But Getty is also the number one selling stock house, so they don't mind.. If the rip goes on a comp, it might eventually sell. That's smart business. A lot of stock houses make their samples too low res for comps. That's dumb. Paul On Sep 24, 2004, at 4:48 PM, Bob W wrote: ...and how to get some: http://www.gettyartists.com/article.asp?article_id=720 Their main website is worth browsing: http://www.gettyimages.com They also have a Central London gallery which I saw last week for the first time. Some very interesting photos there - worth half a hour of anybody's time. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: Lens Value
I don't remember the exactly value, but if the body looks clean, it should go for at least USD800+. I have a new tripod adaptor for this lens btw, anyone wants it? Make me an offer. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head). Any assistance would be appreciated. Don _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
PESO: Annother panorama
Here's a photograph I took this morning, right after sunrise (7:30 AM). I enjoy making panoramas for my employer/work. I shot these (25 shots) in RAW format with the *ist D and my SMC M*4/300mm. Then converted them to JPEG's in Phase One SE (trial version) and stitched them together in Foto Vista 3.0. I like this nature reserve very much. It has been appointed an international habitat for birds by the EU. The nature reserve is off limits (for humans) from April 15th. to July 1st. Thie original image file in 72 ppi was 7 meters long!!! Sorry 'bout the overexposure/burned out high lights! http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7816978.html All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
I do wear glasses. The new glass eyepiece was made from the HOYA HMC SUPER UV filter. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Do you wear glasses? What exactly is this mc eyepiece. I couldn't tell from your gallery shots. John B _ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
The root of all evil...
...and how to get some: http://www.gettyartists.com/article.asp?article_id=720 Their main website is worth browsing: http://www.gettyimages.com They also have a Central London gallery which I saw last week for the first time. Some very interesting photos there - worth half a hour of anybody's time. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues
Graywolf said: > With this post I realized I should have been taking notes from this > thread. You could always do that from the archives -- a rainy day project, perhaps? > What a great bunch of ideas for photos for my press camera > website. Photos that would show both sides of this argument are nonsensical. > > I think that no one is thinking here. It has just gotten to the point of > "I'm right you are wrong!" I agree with you. The only thing that continuing it will prove is which poster is most stubborn. I don't think we *really* need to know that. ERN
Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!
With this post I realized I should have been taking notes from this thread. What a great bunch of ideas for photos for my press camera website. Photos that would show both sides of this argument are nonsensical. I think that no one is thinking here. It has just gotten to the point of "I'm right you are wrong!" -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Bailey" Subject: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again! JC, What direction is the sail boat moving? I tried shooting a river boat on the Mississippi River with my 4x5 several years ago and I believe it was blurred at 1/30 sec. I looked at some of my 4x5 transparancies (static poses) and just love their detail! I had the brilliant idea one time of photographing a hot air balloon launch with the view camera. I think the thing lifted about 10 feet during the exposure. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
It is a fake article. That is a Pentax 110 SLR in the photo. -- Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: OT - An interesting fake?
No, in theory bumblebees can fly fine. The engineers just did not understand some things that bumblebees did 50 years ago. Like the fuzziness broke up the laminar airflow and reduced drag exponentially. You ought to check out those hoary old cliches before using them, we actually know a bit more now than they did when they were first used. GRIN! -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: Re: OT - An interesting fake? Shel Belinkoff wrote: Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. Cut the crap, Shel. This sounds sooo Rubensteinian. Theory comes from practice too. In theory, bumblebees cannot fly. Apparently, they have all the aerodynamics of a Yugo. Bumblebees don't give a damn about theory, they just know they have a job to do, and that flower isn't getting any closer to the ground. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
Yes, yes you can. Keith Whaley wrote: You can put any price you want on an item that is an April Fool's joke... keith Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr.
Re: Pentax £100,000 giveaway. Not SPAM....
Ah, that looks like one of those questionnaires that provide them with a valuable, sellable, mailing list. I would not give my bank some of that information. -- mike.wilson wrote: Hi, Pentax appears to be collecting data on purchasers with a hook of entering you for the cash prize draw. Can anyone spot in the page a question that asks you precisiely what you bought? You are given five generic options on the previous page. This seems to alter only questions 7 & 9. http://comserv.prodregister.com/pentax/tfe01.shtml If not, what use is it for the purpose stated? "Your valuable input regarding this purchase helps us create the products you'll want in the future." Baffled in the UK. CITY OF SUNDERLAND COLLEGE DISCLAIMER Confidentiality: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If they come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error. Please note that the views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the college. Security Warning: Please note that this email has been created in the knowledge that Internet email is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. Viruses: Although we have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure thay are actually virus free. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
You are crazy, Alan. But that doesn't mean you are not smart. You have been complaining about that eyepiece for as long as I remember, now you have fixed it. Way to go. -- Alan Chan wrote: Am I crazy or not? http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/pentax_z1p_custom_eyepiece Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Lens Value
- Original Message - From: "Don Herring" Subject: Lens Value > Greetings, > > I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could > get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* > 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head). Fifty bucks. Send it to me, and I'll get a cheque in the mail as soon as it arrives. Seriously, either eBay or KEH. William Robb
Re: Friday: Donations Needed
Added P.S. -- I have some 35mm film (36 exposure, Supra 400 Pro color neg.) that is slightly out of date, but good stuff. Has always been refrigerated. I'd be happy to send 6 or 8 rolls of that along too. Lemme know. keith Shel Belinkoff wrote: This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street Photography Workshop (http://www.sixthstreetphoto.org) in San Francisco. It's a volunteer position. I'm teaching a few basic photography classes and doing some darkroom work for them, printing for an upcoming exhibition. [...]
Re[2]: Minor Publication News
Hi! ft> When you're dull and boring like me, you try to make yourself seem ft> more interesting by hanging around interesting people. Frank, it is not your choice to decide whether above is correct. You might want to consult your lawyer friend for proper explanation ... Excellent site and pictures, btw. You did a great job. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Lens Value
Greetings, I'm coming out of lurk mode to inquire about a site or book where I could get an estimate on the current value of a lens? Specifically a SMC A* 200/F4 Macro ED (if anyone knows off the top of their head). Any assistance would be appreciated. Don
RE: A random snapshot
I can shoot totally manual too, even without a light meter. What does that prove with regards to the subject? Nothing. I was arguing open aperture TTL metering is better than stop down TTL metering, not whether I absolutely depended on either...Its an OPTIONAL feature, an inferior OPTIONAL feature compared to the open aperture metering OPTIONAL feature. JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A random snapshot - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: A random snapshot > You still havent got it yet. Let me explain > for the 4th time. > No John, I get it, you don't understand that for something that is only going to affect my life once a decade, I am not going to pay much heed to. As a professional photographer, clients paid me to make things work, not whine about how it's too hard, or too inconvenient. This is something that photographers who only go out when conditions are perfect doesn't get. I didn't get your rational until last night, when I finally figured out that if you can find one potential issue that may theoretically cause a problem at some undefined point, however minor the issue or however remote it is that this issue might actually cause some inconvenience, the equipment is deemed to be crap, and cannot be discussed with you. Rest assured, I will keep this in mind in the future. As an aside, I have earned my primary income off of one aspect of photography or another for close to 3 decades now. I have forgotten more than most people will ever know, you included. Regards William Robb
Friday: Donations Needed
This is my third week teaching at the Sixth Street Photography Workshop (http://www.sixthstreetphoto.org) in San Francisco. It's a volunteer position. I'm teaching a few basic photography classes and doing some darkroom work for them, printing for an upcoming exhibition. As with many non-profit groups, Sixth Street can use donations, and we desperately need cameras, preferably old manual focus cameras like Spotties, K1000, and ME Super bodies. The K1000 seems to be the preferred body, the others are just as valuable. Brands other than Pentax are useful, too, and other Pentax models are useful as well. We need whatever we can get! Classes are getting up to full speed, and we still need a few more cameras So, if you've got some older bodies that you're not using, PLEASE consider donating them to this worthy group. Contact me off list for more details. The donations are tax deductible. Please contact me off list if you've some gear that you can donate. Thanks for any help or consideration. And thanks to those who have already made a contribution. You have made some people VERY happy and have contributed to the making of future photographers. Shel
Re: OT - An interesting fake?
Based on 19th century Victorian physics a honey bee cannot fly, it does anyway so the theory had to be re-evaluated. We now build flying robots based on the new theory. Wheatfield is just a bit behind. Caveman wrote: Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees cannot fly. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: A random snapshot
Very nice shot. In some cities, lik Amsterdam, the windows in the red light district look like this. Except it would be real women displayed: http://www.fotokritik.dk/visstort.html?pic=65027 All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. september 2004 22:07 Til: Pentax Discuss Emne: A random snapshot This one was taken last night. The resteraunt we had supper at is a few doors down from the local adult toy store, and this caught my eye for some reason. Technically, this shot should not have worked, judging from recent discussion. It was shot well afer dark with a K series lens (50mm f/1.4) using the stop down metering method. Handheld, wide open, I think for 1/100 second, sensitivity set to 400. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/lovebike.jpg William Robb
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
You can put any price you want on an item that is an April Fool's joke... keith Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas
Re: OT - An interesting fake?
mike wilson wrote: Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't see it as unfair at all. See my most recent post. I think JCO is arguing on one level, others on a different level. Theory may be fine, but practical experience is paramount. The nub of the matter, indeed. But to me it went like this: Larry: I've done this, with this technique JCO: Nice but it wouldn't work with some of the things I use LF for. Others who shall be nameless: It works for Larry, it damn well should work for you. The practical experience needs to be about the theory one is discussing. Yet another shining example of the failings of email. Which this is probably contributing to. What a waste of electrons. Don't you mean "What a senseless waste of electrons, the horror, the horror). mike -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: OT - An interesting fake?
Which theory is that, Wheatfield ? William Robb wrote: In theory, bumblebees cannot fly.
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
That's certainly a nice price, even if it's not a great dslr. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas
Re: A random snapshot
Hear, hear! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bill, why do you waste your time with JCO on this issue. The friggin thread's been going on for a week or so, nothing's going to get thru to JCO. He's busy talking theoretical hyperbole, you, Paul, and others are talking about what's practical, realistic, and what works for you. It seems that you're having different conversations around the same subject. Until such time as JCO picks up the cameras in question, uses them as has been described in a variety of situations, and determines for himself what works and at what limits, the discussions (and the term is used loosely) are just time wasters and mail box fillers.
Re: OT - An interesting fake?
- Original Message - From: "Caveman" Subject: Re: OT - An interesting fake? > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Theory may be fine, but > > practical experience is paramount. > > Cut the crap, Shel. This sounds sooo Rubensteinian. Theory comes from > practice too. In theory, bumblebees cannot fly. Apparently, they have all the aerodynamics of a Yugo. Bumblebees don't give a damn about theory, they just know they have a job to do, and that flower isn't getting any closer to the ground. William Robb
Re: Z-1p with multicoated eyepiece at last...
Seems like a good moment to repost the Cottycam photo: http://www.pbase.com/ccanuck/image/33130041 Cotty wrote: Hey Fred. Just converted a K15mm 3.5 to EOS mount. Details soon ;-)
Re: A random snapshot
[sigh] J. C. O'Connell wrote: You still havent got it yet. Let me explain for the 4th time.
Re: First K mount non Pentax DSLR?
It's been noticed before.. Andreas Wirtz wrote: look at: http://new.dpnow.com/691a.html Andreas ___ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: A random snapshot
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: A random snapshot > You still havent got it yet. Let me explain > for the 4th time. > No John, I get it, you don't understand that for something that is only going to affect my life once a decade, I am not going to pay much heed to. As a professional photographer, clients paid me to make things work, not whine about how it's too hard, or too inconvenient. This is something that photographers who only go out when conditions are perfect doesn't get. I didn't get your rational until last night, when I finally figured out that if you can find one potential issue that may theoretically cause a problem at some undefined point, however minor the issue or however remote it is that this issue might actually cause some inconvenience, the equipment is deemed to be crap, and cannot be discussed with you. Rest assured, I will keep this in mind in the future. As an aside, I have earned my primary income off of one aspect of photography or another for close to 3 decades now. I have forgotten more than most people will ever know, you included. Regards William Robb
Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again! > Try one in daylight. It is very possible > to get much faster shutter speeds than > you are suggesting. Guess you missed my post stating the > fact that press photogs used LARGE FORMAT > 4x5 speed graphics for about 30 years > for all sorts of photograhy including > action. My speed grahic had a 1/1000 speed > setting on it. Balloons are mandated to fly under VFR. Balloons lift off remarkably quickly. William Robb
SV: PESO: Aerial photograph
Thanks Paul and Maris. Luckily, I am paid to do stuff like this, so I'm very happy, you think it's OK. It's a great pleasure for me to be able to do photgraphs and fly, at the same time. Both are among my favorite activities! Our cunsultants will blend the photgraph with a computer model (AutoCad) of the project. We had exact directions as to where the helicopter was supposed to hover (X,Y,Z coordinates) when shooting the photographs - even which focal length to use (50mm - equal to app. 28mm on a 35mm format). Great fun! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Maris V. Lidaka Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. september 2004 18:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO: Aerial photograph Gorgeous view! Gorgeous photo of that view! Congratulations on a job excellently done. Maris Jens Bladt wrote: > As some of you may remember I have promised to post a 6x6 photograph > from my helicopter in the beginning of this month. > This is the 6x6 phoptpgraph (here it's croped and compressed), which > was chosen to be used in the project for our 42 ha habour extention > etc. (I am a city planner/architect, working in this town, where I > also live). > > This was photographed with a Pentacon Six TTL and a Carl Zeiss Jena > Flektogon 4.0/50mm on Fuji Velvia 100F, which was scanned to app. 29 > Megapixel in the lab. Later cropped and compressed. > Comments are of course welcome. > > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7808781.html
Re: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again!
- Original Message - From: "John Bailey" Subject: 4x5 experience - not Pentax WAS: Even more compatibility issues again! > JC, > > What direction is the sail boat moving? I tried > shooting a river boat on the Mississippi River > with my 4x5 several years ago and I believe it > was blurred at 1/30 sec. I looked at some of my > 4x5 transparancies (static poses) and just love > their detail! I had the brilliant idea one time of photographing a hot air balloon launch with the view camera. I think the thing lifted about 10 feet during the exposure. William Robb
Re: PESO: Aerial photograph
Nice shot, Jens. Love that Velvia color. Paul > As some of you may remember I have promised to post a 6x6 photograph from my > helicopter in the beginning of this month. > This is the 6x6 phoptpgraph (here it's croped and compressed), which was > chosen to be used in the project for our 42 ha habour extention etc. (I am a > city planner/architect, working in this town, where I also live). > > This was photographed with a Pentacon Six TTL and a Carl Zeiss Jena > Flektogon 4.0/50mm on Fuji Velvia 100F, which was scanned to app. 29 > Megapixel in the lab. Later cropped and compressed. > Comments are of course welcome. > > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p7808781.html > > > All the best > > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > >
Re: how does image stabilisation work?
I read the article about the new Minolta in pop photo, but thinking back now I am confused by something. I don't have the magazine here to check, but I swear they said they put a 500 mirror lens on the camera and that the image stabilized through the viewfinder when they engaged IS. How could they see this? If it's an SLR, they are looking through the optics only, and the sensor is not involved with the viewfinder image. If IS is done by the sensor, how could they have seen any live stabilization. I may have missed the obvious here (wouldn't be the first time) or maybe I'm remembering the article incorrectly. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how does image stabilisation work?
They do that at the expense of image smear. That would not be good for stills. rg Graywolf wrote: Tell that to the video camera makers, they apparently don't know that. -- Gonz wrote: Do you mean electronically? That would not work. Image stabilization can only be done mechanically, either at the lens or on the film/sensor plane. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems unlikely, it would be far cheaper to just do it digitally. -- Martin Trautmann wrote: Hi all, I just had a look at the Konica Maxxum 7D / Minolta Dynax 7D. I'd wish Pentax would provide some kind of image stabilisation as these models do. But how does it actually work? - how many millimeters is the sensor shifted for stabilisation? - what's the typical mass of a sensor and the acceleration values of this stablilisation (e.g. compared to the stabilisation within the lens) - how does it operate when you are already 'at the edge'? Does it fail to work or is it always operation on a virtually centered object? are all those systems working reasonably well, claming about 2-3 aperture values gain? How much is the current price of this function - and is it something that can be expected for every future camera to come after e.g. the two next years? Regards Martin
Re: A random snapshot
- Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: A random snapshot > Mr. O"Connell: > > I could give more serious consideration to your point of view if you > could try to be a little less arrogant. Whee, I missed that one. For the record, my initial metering was done several stops down, not sure how many, the last picture I took was in daylight though, so I expect f/8 or 11. Also for the record, that picture wasn't meant to prove or disprove anything. It's something that caught my eye, and I photographed it, nothing more, nothing less. That it happened while JC was shooting his mouth of (so to speak) was purely coincidental. The meter reading worked fine, and gave me an indicated shutter speed that I felt was within the range that I would expect for the light condition, but was too slow even for my steady hand, so I opened the lens wide and got 1/100 second. What this means to me is that in my shooting conditions, the stop down metering of the istD is capable of satisfying my needs. I had mentioned this in a previous post, but some arguementative soul must not have managed to understand it. Any technical consideration in photography requires compromise. I believe the istD meter is good to around EV-1 or thereabouts, and naturally, any metering done that falls below that light level is going to result in either an exposure inaccuracy or a non responsive meter. This EV value represents a very dim subject, one which most likely will be approached with a relatively wide aperture for pragmatic reasons, if for nothing else. Digital SLRs in general aren't really on their best behaviour for extended exposure times, and my shooting strategy is to try to keep exposure times faster than when noise reduction kicks in anyway. In very dim conditions, it is, of course, possible to meter wide open, stop down to the shooting aperture and then manually adjust the shutter speed to compensate. Not the most convenient, but it is not a shooting condition that is likely to come up very often either. This discussion also presumes that the only lens available for the shot in a pre A lens. So, if you are in a fairly dark situation, and need a small f/stop, and don't have an appropriate A series or newer lens, then you might have to do a bit of fiddling. Thats a lot of ifs ands or buts before the photographer is inconvenienced, and is not likely going to be a problem very often. So, John, hows my grasp of the situation? William Robb > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > >It must suck to be vision impaired, he > >states "wide open" right in the post. > >I read it right the first time, you didn't. > > > >His "proof" example only proves he doesn't > >"get it". His total lack of understanding is one thing > >but for him to imply my comments were incorrect when > >he doesn't even understand them let alone prove > >them wrong isnt very impressive I must say. > > > > > > >
Re: A random snapshot
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: A random snapshot > Talking about interesting juxtapositions, look at the shape of the parking > meter. I could have positioned that better. b...
