Re: OT dealing with bloom was (Samples from 14 2.8)

2004-11-26 Thread dagt
 fra: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 25 Nov 2004 at 23:06, DagT wrote:
 
  No
  
  In some cases I´ve got some CA (or purple fringing) as you can see here:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2478716
 
 Thanks for pointing me to your example images, I assume you are pretty 
 pleased 
 with the lens? 

Yes, I'm very pleased and I use it a lot, but I guess I should mention that I 
never use a tripod so I haven't tested just how sharp the lens is.

 Also think it wise to consider CA and purple fringing to be related but not 
 entirely the same. For instance CA often be virtually eliminated using PS CS 
 RAW but a saturated fringe can still remain. The general consensus seems to 
 be 
 that this is a function of a particular sensor over-saturation phenomena 
 known 
 as bloom.
 
 A lot of my old E-10 images suffered this quite badly so I developed counter 
 measures (it should be noted that I didn't have the benefit of the easy CA 
 reduction that we do using PS CS RAW either).
 
 My method using PS was to magnify the image to a point where the whole 
 offending pixels could be easily viewed then using the select  colour range 
 tool click on the most saturated area of the bloom then side the fuzziness 
 slider up to 150-200. The resulting selection will generally only encompass 
 the 
 offending (often purple) bloom which can generally be de-saturated using the 
 hue/saturation tool rendering a far more natural image.

Thanks, I'll try this next time I get that problem.  In practice It only 
occures in cases like the tree image, were you have very high contrast and 
sharp structures in the corners of the image.  This fits with your description 
of the problem.

DagT



Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net

2004-11-26 Thread dagt
 fra: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 DagT wrote:
 
  That's funny, because I thought the 4000 ppi scan on the Nikon made 
  the up-rezed 1DS image look pretty sad in comparison. However, as 
  somebody said--apples to oranges. Interesting to look at, but . . .
 
 
  Like this:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2035313
 
  DagT
 
  PS: Sorry...  :-)
 
 
 You should be.  (Nice Photoshop though).

Wrong, no photoshop.  The image is unmanipulated :-)

DagT



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Lon Williamson
The best one is the one you own.


Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Jolly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2035313
DagT
PS: Sorry...  :-)

You should be.  (Nice Photoshop though).

Wrong, no photoshop.  The image is unmanipulated :-)
Double exposure then?
S


Re: *ist DS review in this month's (Dec04) Popular Photography

2004-11-26 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
William Robb wrote on 26.11.04 5:18:

 That is the beauty of AA batteries, even NIMH ones.
 My buddy with the Canon Rebel has spent a couple of hundred dollars
 on batteries for his camera.
 I've spent less than 100 for my battery set, and I get twice the life
 he gets.
There is no reason to buy original Li-Ion batteries, third party's ones are
much less expensive (about 20USD for Nikon D70) and mostly as good as
genuine. Yup, it is slightly more than a set of good AA NiMH. But contrary
to NiMH they almost don't loose charge sitting unused and can be recharged
anytime not affecting their capacity.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: Anyone shoot hockey with their digital?

2004-11-26 Thread Frits Wthrich
I use my *istD for shooting hockey, see the website I maintain for the hockey 
team of my doughter, http://www.xs4all.nl/~wuthrich/MD1/fotos.html ,  click on 
any of the links of 'foto impressie van de wedstrijd ...' .
Also you can see the collage I made of the individual team members and the team 
photo, I am selling that collage to the parents so they have a gift for Sint 
Nikolaas (5 Dec) or Christmas, as 30x45cm or 50x75cm.
I also sell photo's of the games, that is why the IMGP number is visible if you 
hold your mouse on them, so they can be ordered.



On Thursday 25 November 2004 00:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FJW 
FJWA friend at work(in our print department)has asked me to take 
some shots of his
FJW young 
FJW lad playing hockey so that he can put a collage together for his wife as a 
Christmas
FJW present. I have no 
FJW problem doing this as he has done a ton of favours for me at work.
FJW 
FJW  I know my camera and the istD can do present WB for unusual situations, 
like this. Any
FJW one have 
FJW experience at hockey. Do i set the preset from the ice or the general 
lighting from what
FJW may be over 
FJW head. I'll be shooting Jpg and Raw,but i still dont have anything worthy 
of working with
FJW Raw yet,nor 
FJW does our print department. May try Elements 3 or just buy the dam Nikon 
Capture for
FJW $150.00.:-)
FJW 
FJW Dave   
FJW 
FJW 
FJW 
FJW 

-- 
Frits Wthrich



PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
So I'm in a strange mood:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg

Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun :-)

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 26.11.04 12:51:

 So I'm in a strange mood:
 
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg
 
 Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun :-)
Wow! This flare is very nice :-) And it is not easy to obtain, at least not
in such a interesting form, so congratulations Rob :-) Will you tell us
please something more about used technique? ;-)
Seriously, the photo would be really nice, just this building on the right
is distracting detail... Couldn't you demolish it for this photo? ;-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you mean the people in the front seat, they're  probably not for 
real. I would guess they're dressed and made up for the dream cruise. 
They certainly don't make me want to barf. A lot of people wear what 
amounts to a costume. I have a shot of Popeye somewhere. I usually wear 
an Elvis wig, some gold chains, and gold sunglasses. My wife wears a 
beehive wig and butterfly sunglasses. It's all just part of the fun.
Paul
On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:
On the Avenue, August 2004:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg
Yikes!
Thats enough to make one barf, on a couple of levels.
are they for real?  Pretty scary stuff ;)
ann



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Ann Sanfedele 
Subject: Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg
Yikes!
Thats enough to make one barf, on a couple of levels.
are they for real?  Pretty scary stuff ;)
Now Ann, you know it's impolite to mock other cultures' icons.
William Robb


Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:24 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Unfortunately it isn't a time warp :(
Hawaiian shirts are back in, btw.
You're wrong. It is a time warp. It's from the Dream Cruise, which is a 
week long, retro focused, party, where those of us in Detroit celebrate 
what we do here by driving up and down Woodward in classic cars, hot 
rods, and all manner of unusual vehicles. This year it drew 1.5 million 
spectators and 30,000 cars. A lot of people dress up fifties style with 
greased up hair, beehives, and poodle skirts. It's all just for fun. 
Nothing evil or distasteful about it.



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well, THAT is a relief! I was going to say it didn't look quite real, 
but
thought it was.
There are people like that out there, alas.

You're right, there are some people, who actually dress like that and 
just kind of live in the past. You'll find them at the Dream Cruise 
along with ordinary folk who are just play acting. I think a lot of 
people with a retro lifestyle are attracted to the car culture, because 
it's all wound up in that kind of thing. I've met quite a few people 
over the years who are stuck in the fifties. And guess what? They may 
look funny and hold certain beliefs that are different than most of us. 
But a lot of them are really good people. In fact there's probably 
about the same percentage of good people among stuck in the fifties, 
high school dropout,  blue-collar folk as there are  among well 
educated, east coast liberals. Nothing to be afraid of in either crowd.



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Whaley

Paul Stenquist wrote:
If you mean the people in the front seat, they're  probably not for 
real. I would guess they're dressed and made up for the dream cruise. 
They certainly don't make me want to barf. A lot of people wear what 
amounts to a costume. I have a shot of Popeye somewhere. I usually wear 
an Elvis wig, some gold chains, and gold sunglasses. My wife wears a 
beehive wig and butterfly sunglasses. It's all just part of the fun.
Paul

On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
On the Avenue, August 2004:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg

Yikes!
Thats enough to make one barf, on a couple of levels.
are they for real?  Pretty scary stuff ;)
ann
I don't understand why Ann feels that way. Was it a different photo than 
the URL above?
Are WHO for real?

keith


Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward, Two Versions

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
I deleted the second one. No one liked it. The main difference was the 
lack of a mirror, but I sort of botched up my first attempt at 
darkening the sky as well. The one that's up there now is a 
modification of the first version.

On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:28 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Rats, I can't get the second one to come up, Paul
ann
Cotty wrote:
On 24/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The original version:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg
Much prefer the original. The mirror adds quirky interest.
The modified version:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907709size=lg
You need some more wax on that door ;-)
Cheers,
  Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Rollei Announces New BW Film

2004-11-26 Thread Frantisek

Friday, November 26, 2004, 4:45:15 AM, Shel wrote:
SB Maybe this has been posted here before.  Rollei, in a joint venture with
SB Maco, has announced a new BW film that reprtedly spans an ISO range from
SB 25 through 1600.  Details can be found here:

Good! Just yesterday I found it in our local shop! I was curious what
it was. I will give it a try and post my results here. At least it's
an excuse to develop some film :-)

What I like about it, just theoretically: cubic crystals instead of
flat T crystals. This might (might) give it pictorial properties more
like the classic films than the T films. But this is just pure
theoretising (a.k.a bullshiting g), so we will see.

I could even try it in the old Rolleiflex, for nostalgia :)

Good light!
   fra



RE: Pentax Ads in Australia

2004-11-26 Thread Anthony Farr
I had that very combination in my hands on Wednesday at my local Camera
House store.  It felt fine although not as solid as the D, but still tight
and with no gaping joints or flexing casings to spoil the feel.  The
Financial Controller was looking impatiently over my shoulder so it was only
a brief impression that I got, but I felt that the combo of that lens and
the Ds didn't focus as snappily as the D with a genuine Pentax lens.  The
viewfinder image was nicely bright and grainless but the focus point
guidelines could be distracting.  Are they an LCD overlay that can be
switched off?

regards,
Anthony Farr 

 -Original Message-
 From: Leon Altoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I was just flipping through the paper (the Age Green Guide) and saw an
 add for the *istDS. The add said it arrives next week and you can order
 it for AU$1499.95 with a Sigma 18-125 zoom.  Right next to it on the
 add was the D70 with a Nikon 28-100 zoom for AU$1799.95 (after $200
 cashback).  The specs listed on each all came out in favour of the
 Pentax.
 
 They also did a mini review of the 750Z which they compared favourably
 against the Cannon G6 which costs AU$200 more.  Their only complaint
 was the lack of RAW format.
 
 
  Leon
 
 http://www.bluering.org.au
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon






Re: Anyone shoot hockey with their digital?

2004-11-26 Thread brooksdj
 You're implying that Nikon Capture 
will process RAW 
from the *ist D?
 
 Kenneth Waller

No.
I just mentioned the istD and my D2h can handle preset WB and i was just 
wondering what
people were 
using for the preset,(ice,lights,towel as per WW)be it the nikon or pentax.
Sorry for the confusion.

Dave




Re: Flash Diffusers, what do you use?

2004-11-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Christian wrote:

 Don Sanderson wrote on 11/24/2004, 8:38 AM:

   What flash diffusers have you found to be the:
   1.) Easiest to use.
   2.) Most effective given the ease of use.
   3.) Most portable as far as space and sturdiness so they
   don't get mangled riding in a crowded bag.
  
   I'm looking for something to use on the AF360FGZ and the AF500FTZ.

 I use the Stofen Omni-bounce on my AF360FGZ.

And I am using it on the AF500FTZ. I have never tried it remove it,
but it looks tight :-) As Paul said, (white) ceiling works too (except
if a hanging light gets in the way or sth), and I use that together
with the diffuser (since I can't be bothered to remove it). I most
usually shoot with the flash angled 45deg up, whether in the open or
indoors.

HTH,
Kostas



Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net

2004-11-26 Thread dagt
 fra: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2035313
 
 DagT
 
 PS: Sorry...  :-)
 
 
 
 You should be.  (Nice Photoshop though).
  
  
  Wrong, no photoshop.  The image is unmanipulated :-)
 
 Double exposure then?
 

No, I did it with mirrors :-)

See this link:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=90906

If you see the two smaller images below the large one you can click on the one 
to the right.  It shows the setup I used when I made the picture. Nothing 
fancy...

DagT 



RE: Flash Diffusers, what do you use?

2004-11-26 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Kostas, and everyone, for the suggestions.
I'm ordering the Stofen and I also found this:
http://tinyurl.com/4sj6t
I had an inflatable diffuser once called the AirBrella and
it worked well, it's no longer made but this looks similar.
The AirBrella had an elastic band to hold it and this one uses
Velcro but for $21.00 I'll givbe it a try. They say it only costs
one stop, that's good.
I'm sure I'll use the Stofen more but the XTC is probably a bit
softer.

Thanks again all
Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Flash Diffusers, what do you use?
 
 
 On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Christian wrote:
 
  Don Sanderson wrote on 11/24/2004, 8:38 AM:
 
What flash diffusers have you found to be the:
1.) Easiest to use.
2.) Most effective given the ease of use.
3.) Most portable as far as space and sturdiness so they
don't get mangled riding in a crowded bag.
   
I'm looking for something to use on the AF360FGZ and the AF500FTZ.
 
  I use the Stofen Omni-bounce on my AF360FGZ.
 
 And I am using it on the AF500FTZ. I have never tried it remove it,
 but it looks tight :-) As Paul said, (white) ceiling works too (except
 if a hanging light gets in the way or sth), and I use that together
 with the diffuser (since I can't be bothered to remove it). I most
 usually shoot with the flash angled 45deg up, whether in the open or
 indoors.
 
 HTH,
 Kostas
 



OT - bw film gets a reprieve.

2004-11-26 Thread Anthony Farr
It's not a traditional emulsion, it's a chromogenic.  But it has pretty good
credentials.  

http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=199364

For your consideration.

regards,
Anthony Farr 





Re: OT - bw film gets a reprieve.

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Jolly
Anthony Farr wrote:
It's not a traditional emulsion, it's a chromogenic.  But it has pretty good
credentials.  

http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=199364
For your consideration.
I'm pretty sure it's not a chromogenic, Anthony - it's a similar idea 
(three emulsion layers of differing sensitivity), but AFAICT it works 
with traditional b+w developers (although there are some special 
expensive Rollei-branded ones too).

S


Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So?  There are people with all sorts of appearances and beliefs out
there.  Why be critical of anyone because of their appearance.  I can't
help but think of all those tattooed bikers dressed in leather that descend
on Sturgis every year, most of whom ar doctors, businessmen, and just plain
folks, but who like to dress up as tough guys and women every now and
then when riding their Harleys.  Thank goodness everyone's not like you ...
or me, or Paul, etc.  I'm surprised at your seemingly narrow-minded
comment, Ann.

Shel 


 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

  Well, THAT is a relief! I was going to say it didn't look quite real, 
  but thought it was. There are people like that out there, alas.

 Paul said:

 You're right, there are some people, who actually dress like that and 
 just kind of live in the past. You'll find them at the Dream Cruise 
 along with ordinary folk who are just play acting. I think a lot of 
 people with a retro lifestyle are attracted to the car culture, because 
 it's all wound up in that kind of thing. I've met quite a few people 
 over the years who are stuck in the fifties. And guess what? They may 
 look funny and hold certain beliefs that are different than most of us. 
 But a lot of them are really good people. In fact there's probably 
 about the same percentage of good people among stuck in the fifties, 
 high school dropout,  blue-collar folk as there are  among well 
 educated, east coast liberals. Nothing to be afraid of in either crowd.




RE: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
You certainly have a flare for the unusual LOL and groaning

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 So I'm in a strange mood:

 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg

 Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun
:-)




FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

Hi folks,

Update from last week. The 35 and the 70-210 went pretty quickly, I am
surprised the FishEye did not generate interest. Let me know if
interested and we can discuss price. Prefer UK and EuroZone (as I
don't do PayPal), but will discuss other parts if you are interested.

All with my usual 2 month money-back guarantee for faults not listed
(3 for the 85).


Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint

In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but
the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind.


SMC Pentax-M 85/2 BGN
-
Unmarked elements. Snappy iris, stopping down correctly. Smooth
focusing. Widespread internal dust. Front-back movement on aperture
ring. Some brassing and missing white protruding bit for alignment of
the lens with the mount in the dark (does not affect performance).
Generic front cap, original back cap. You can return this lens for a
full (PP included)  refund within three months if its condition
affects your photography.

Kostas



RE: OT - bw film gets a reprieve.

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've read as much information as I could find on this film (even posted
some links to it as well), and saw nothing to indicate it's a chromogenic
film.  How did you come to that conclusion?  Heck, even the photo in the
link you posted shows standard developers and fix are used, and the link
below clearly mentions that the old standby, D-76, is recommended as well. 
You may want to read the information posted here: 
http://www.silverprint.co.uk/bwf11.html

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It's not a traditional emulsion, it's a chromogenic.  But it has pretty
good
 credentials.  

 http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=199364




Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread brooksdj

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg   

Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i submitted last week. She's on the 
rock, but i
was shooting into 
the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a silloette thingy. Very cloudy 
overcast day.
This was the better scan of the two shots. I know there is not much detail in 
the body,but
the face 
seems ok.
Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she hear's the click.

Again,enjoy and attack a way.

Dave




RE: OT - bw film gets a reprieve.

2004-11-26 Thread Anthony Farr
Oops.  I read too quickly where it said that it was made by a process
similar to colour film manufacture , and considering its sensitivity of
ISO25 to ISO1600, I presumed it was another C41 process bw.

Interestingly, Rollei's own page about the film,
http://www.rollei.de/index_e.html gives the sensitivity as ISO 25 to
ISO6400.

regards,
Anthony Farr 

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I'm pretty sure it's not a chromogenic, Anthony - it's a similar idea
 (three emulsion layers of differing sensitivity), but AFAICT it works
 with traditional b+w developers (although there are some special
 expensive Rollei-branded ones too).
 
 S





RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Jens Bladt
I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing ring!
I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 25. november 2004 13:11
Til: Sylwester Pietrzyk
Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 Which of the many 50mm lenses, made by Pentax, is
 considered to be the best in terms of image quality?

 You may find interesting this:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml

I like the last sentence the best:  Remember, too, that obsessing
about lenses just isn't necessary. They all take great pictures. But
if it's fun for you, then do it! Messing around with cameras and
lenses is safe, pleasant, legal, and harms no one. All things
considered, it doesn't rank very high on the scale of silly vices.

Fred






RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Jens Bladt
Who said I only have one?

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


The best one is the one you own.





Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(


Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
ring!
 I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)

 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 25. november 2004 13:11
 Til: Sylwester Pietrzyk
 Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


  Which of the many 50mm lenses, made by Pentax, is
  considered to be the best in terms of image quality?

  You may find interesting this:
  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml

 I like the last sentence the best:  Remember, too, that obsessing
 about lenses just isn't necessary. They all take great pictures. But
 if it's fun for you, then do it! Messing around with cameras and
 lenses is safe, pleasant, legal, and harms no one. All things
 considered, it doesn't rank very high on the scale of silly vices.

 Fred







Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a brighter focusing screen (maybe
even split image) installed in a Spottie or Spottie F?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

 they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(


 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California


 - Original Message - 
 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
 Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


  I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
 ring!
  I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)




RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The days of new brass lenses may be gone but
the M42 Takumars arent. I think the sole reason
M42 is still so popular is the very existance
of those superb Pentax Takumar Lenses TODAY.
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(


Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
ring!
 I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)

 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 25. november 2004 13:11
 Til: Sylwester Pietrzyk
 Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


  Which of the many 50mm lenses, made by Pentax, is considered to be 
  the best in terms of image quality?

  You may find interesting this: 
  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml

 I like the last sentence the best:  Remember, too, that obsessing 
 about lenses just isn't necessary. They all take great pictures. But 
 if it's fun for you, then do it! Messing around with cameras and 
 lenses is safe, pleasant, legal, and harms no one. All things 
 considered, it doesn't rank very high on the scale of silly vices.

 Fred







Re: Film vs. Digital - A necessary test

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Orange, tangerine, they look the same...
Jon Glass wrote:
On Nov 26, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote:
What if it's an orange Apple.
There were only Tangerine Apples... ;-)

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Samples from 14 2.8

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
The A 15mm f3.8 and M are for the most part optically identical.
David Mann wrote:
On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, jayers wrote:
It would be interesting to compare the M15mm f3.5 lens to the DA14.

I assume you mean A instead of M :)
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: *ist Ds + A20/2.8 or 24/2.8 - will it work?

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Which is something that keeps us afraid, very afraid.
Cotty wrote:
On 25/11/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

Yes.  I think you've got it.
   

Oh I've got it alright yeah baby I've got it

Cheers,
 Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Moving house

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'd say have fun, but you know that would be dripping with sarcasm.
David Mann wrote:
Hi all,
I'm dropping off the list for (hopefully) a day while I move into my 
new house.  Or should I say the bank's new house.

Provided nothing breaks or gets rained on, I should return within 24hrs.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Alright then where can I buy one of those...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fra: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DagT wrote:
   

That's funny, because I thought the 4000 ppi scan on the Nikon made 
the up-rezed 1DS image look pretty sad in comparison. However, as 
somebody said--apples to oranges. Interesting to look at, but . . .
   

Like this:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2035313
DagT
PS: Sorry...  :-)
 

You should be.  (Nice Photoshop though).
   

Wrong, no photoshop.  The image is unmanipulated :-)
DagT
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yes, I agree on both counts.
Rob Studdert wrote:
So I'm in a strange mood:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg
Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun :-)
Cheers,
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Samples from 14 2.8

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
AFAIK, there never was an M15/3.5 ...

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 11/26/2004 8:09:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8

 The A 15mm f3.8 and M are for the most part optically identical.

 David Mann wrote:

  On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, jayers wrote:
 
  It would be interesting to compare the M15mm f3.5 lens to the DA14.
 
 
  I assume you mean A instead of M :)
 
  Cheers,
 
  - Dave
 
  http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 
 


 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke





Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
Hi JC, good point!

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 The days of new brass lenses may be gone but
 the M42 Takumars arent. I think the sole reason
 M42 is still so popular is the very existance
 of those superb Pentax Takumar Lenses TODAY.
 JCO
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
 they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(
 
 
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
 Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
  I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
 ring!
  I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)
 
  Jens Bladt
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
  -Oprindelig meddelelse-
  Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sendt: 25. november 2004 13:11
  Til: Sylwester Pietrzyk
  Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
   Which of the many 50mm lenses, made by Pentax, is considered to be 
   the best in terms of image quality?
 
   You may find interesting this: 
   http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml
 
  I like the last sentence the best:  Remember, too, that obsessing 
  about lenses just isn't necessary. They all take great pictures. But 
  if it's fun for you, then do it! Messing around with cameras and 
  lenses is safe, pleasant, legal, and harms no one. All things 
  considered, it doesn't rank very high on the scale of silly vices.
 
  Fred
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
There was an optional split image screen for Spotmatics, but it wasn't 
meant to be installed by consumers. I don't know where you would find 
one, and I don't know how difficult it might be to install a new 
screen. My Spotmatic Motor Drive had a split image screen. 
Unfortunately, I sold that camera last winter.

On Nov 26, 2004, at 10:57 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a brighter focusing screen 
(maybe
even split image) installed in a Spottie or Spottie F?

Shel

[Original Message]
From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
ring!
I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)




Re: Samples from 14 2.8

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
correct, only K and A models.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8


 AFAIK, there never was an M15/3.5 ...
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 11/26/2004 8:09:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8
 
  The A 15mm f3.8 and M are for the most part optically identical.
 
  David Mann wrote:
 
   On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, jayers wrote:
  
   It would be interesting to compare the M15mm f3.5 lens to the DA14.
  
  
   I assume you mean A instead of M :)
  
   Cheers,
  
   - Dave
  
   http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
  
  
 
 
  -- 
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
 peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
he has at least a hundred.

Jens Bladt wrote:
Who said I only have one?
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
The best one is the one you own.

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Probably, but at what cost.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a brighter focusing screen (maybe
even split image) installed in a Spottie or Spottie F?
Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

   

I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar focusing
 

ring!
   

I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)
 


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
There were factory split image screens available.
I have a few Pentax M42 few bodies with them.
I would think ( but not sure ) that you could
steal a K-1000 screeen and install in a spottie
if you wanted the split-image ( not sure if they
are brighter though ).

Regarding
the brightness issue, sure brighter is better in
low light or with very slow lenses, but the vast
majority of the time I have absolutely no problems
at all with the spotmatics stock screen finders. Needless
to say, outdoors with faster lenses ( F2.8 or better)
they are simply glorius finders with the standard screens...

JCO
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Steve Larson
Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


Does anyone know if it's possible to get a brighter focusing screen
(maybe even split image) installed in a Spottie or Spottie F?

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

 they are sweet, too bad the days of solid brass are gone :(


 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California


 - Original Message -
 From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:35 AM
 Subject: RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


  I love the looks and shape (Leica like) of the Super-Takumar 
  focusing
 ring!
  I may even buy a Spotmatic F just to get one :-)




Re: Samples from 14 2.8

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sorry, K, I should have corrected that.  I'm still doped on tryptophan.
(At least that's my story and I'm stickin' to it).
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
AFAIK, there never was an M15/3.5 ...
Shel 

 

[Original Message]
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11/26/2004 8:09:50 AM
Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8
The A 15mm f3.8 and M are for the most part optically identical.
David Mann wrote:
   

On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, jayers wrote:
 

It would be interesting to compare the M15mm f3.5 lens to the DA14.
   

I assume you mean A instead of M :)
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
   

peacetime.
 

--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Frantisek

Friday, November 26, 2004, 4:57:15 PM, Shel wrote:
SB Does anyone know if it's possible to get a brighter focusing screen (maybe
SB even split image) installed in a Spottie or Spottie F?

I think it's possible. Actually, I did so in my SP 1000. The assembly
would be probably the same.

I tried installing a modern screen from other camera, which was too
small to fit (but offered very bright focusing). So I settled on a
late-production K1000 screen, which is definitely better than the old
one. If money and time permit, I would like to put there some truly
modern screen.

You have to remove the prism  remove the focusing screen holder
underneath it. Carefuly so you don't damage the meter's little dial
(the meter can be removed I think without soldering.

Calibration of the focus is done purely by screwheads which are in the
mirror assembly. So if the focusing screen you install is the same
thickness and has the surrogate focus plane in the same place as the
original screen, there shouldn't be any focusing adjustments. If the
screen is different thickness, you would have to adjust the screws.
Service manual for Spottie is readily available on the web as PDF
file.

Critical checking of focus afterwards would still be recommended,
preferably with some focusing magnifier or even a strong loupe.
Remember to check focus in all four corners as well as in the middle.

The modified SP1000 is so much easier to focus than with the old screen
- and that was even with super-fast lenses like 1.8/80mm wide open.


Good light!
   fra



M series lens questions

2004-11-26 Thread J. C. O'Connell
right, there is no M 15mm lens.
This brings up the question, did
pentax ever relabel any of the K
lenses as M with exact same optical
and mechanical design? ( i.e. they
relabelled it M because it was
already a very compact design by
industry standards when 
initially released as a K?)

Im thinking NO because K had 52mm
as the defacto standard filter threads
and M used 49mm instead but I am not
sure.

Then the second question would be
were any of the M lenses same
OPTICALLY as the K but just repackaged
into smaller barrels?

Looking back in hindsight, the Pentax 
K series lens size enlargement when
going from Screwmount to Kmount was
a major goof on Pentax. Just as they
decided to go bigger, Olympus came
out with smaller and smaller was
wildly popular. It took pentax 3 MORE yrs
to catch up with the M series
cameras and lenses...

Thanks in Advance,
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 11:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8


correct, only K and A models.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8


 AFAIK, there never was an M15/3.5 ...
 
 Shel
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 11/26/2004 8:09:50 AM
  Subject: Re: Samples from 14 2.8
 
  The A 15mm f3.8 and M are for the most part optically identical.
 
  David Mann wrote:
 
   On Nov 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, jayers wrote:
  
   It would be interesting to compare the M15mm f3.5 lens to the 
   DA14.
  
  
   I assume you mean A instead of M :)
  
   Cheers,
  
   - Dave
  
   http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
  
  
 
 
  --
  I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
  During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
  and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
 peacetime.
  --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 



Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net

2004-11-26 Thread Jostein
Dag,
It's great fun to see how many people you trick by the orapple. :-)
It's a neat shot, though.
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: P67 vs D1s -- photo.net


  fra: Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2035313
  
  DagT
  
  PS: Sorry...  :-)
  
  
  
  You should be.  (Nice Photoshop though).
  
  
   Wrong, no photoshop.  The image is unmanipulated :-)
 
  Double exposure then?
 

 No, I did it with mirrors :-)

 See this link:
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=90906

 If you see the two smaller images below the large one you can click
on the one to the right.  It shows the setup I used when I made the
picture. Nothing fancy...

 DagT




Re: automated response

2004-11-26 Thread Jostein
There's a better pun in asking Collin where he's going to for such an
occasion...:-)
Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 So you don't want to be what you eat?

 Cotty wrote:

 On 24/11/04, Collin Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
 
 Hi.
 We're travelling for Thanksgiving so may not respond.
 We'll be back next week.
 Have a great Thanksgiving.
 
 
 
 Thanks but I don't do Thanksgiving.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke





Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Whaley
In M42 mounts, out of 11 total, I have (4) 50mm Takumars: 2 Super-Taks, 
an S-M-C and an SMC.
Then, in K-mounts, out of 17 total, I only have (5) Pentax 50mms: an SMC 
Pentax, 3 SMC Pentax-Ms and an SMC Pentax-A.
Ooops! Had 5. I donated 2 -Ms to Shel for his school.

keith whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote:
All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
he has at least a hundred.

Jens Bladt wrote:
Who said I only have one?
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
The best one is the one you own.



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Keith Whaley wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

  If you mean the people in the front seat, they're  probably not for
  real. I would guess they're dressed and made up for the dream cruise.
  They certainly don't make me want to barf. A lot of people wear what
  amounts to a costume. I have a shot of Popeye somewhere. I usually wear
  an Elvis wig, some gold chains, and gold sunglasses. My wife wears a
  beehive wig and butterfly sunglasses. It's all just part of the fun.
  Paul

  On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  On the Avenue, August 2004:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg

  Yikes!
  Thats enough to make one barf, on a couple of levels.
  are they for real?  Pretty scary stuff ;)
 
  ann

 I don't understand why Ann feels that way. Was it a different photo than
 the URL above?
 Are WHO for real?

 keith

Well - I'm exagerating a bit - when I meant are they for real, I was hinting
that
there was something staged about it all - and, well, phoney. ( Later, Paul
explained
what was going on.)

Part of scary was kids sitting up on the back of the car - so I guess I
should have realised
it was a parade of some sort.  The driver and passanger look like people in
THe Truman Show
Now that i know they were just dressed up for the fun of it it changes it
quite a bit.

For myself, if it were a dress up parade, I wouldn't I probably would not
have found it
interesting enough to photo  - exept, perhaps, as a gig of reporting on that
scene... so
I guess I felt Paul was making the same comment I would have made - yikes!.

Because we are, in a way, back in the 50's.  alas.  But lets not go there.

ann




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul ...

I know about the split image screen, however, my main interest is in a
brighter screen, and a brighter split image screen would be super.  Thanks!

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 There was an optional split image screen for Spotmatics, but it wasn't 
 meant to be installed by consumers. I don't know where you would find 
 one, and I don't know how difficult it might be to install a new 
 screen. My Spotmatic Motor Drive had a split image screen. 
 Unfortunately, I sold that camera last winter.




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've got about seven or eight  

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 11/26/2004 8:26:02 AM
 Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
 he has at least a hundred.




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Pearson
The one's that I can think of at this moment are
M/1.4, A/1.7, A/1.4, with an FA/1.4 in the mail.  BTW,
Shel asked what I was looking for in image quality,
and I guess I would lean towards overall sharpness. 
However, I have learned so much from this group that I
will probably keep most of them for different bokeh
effects. 

Thanks everyone!


--- Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't
 count since I think 
 he has at least a hundred.
 
 Jens Bladt wrote:
 
 Who said I only have one?
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
 The best one is the one you own.
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the
 sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually
 frowned on during peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 
 


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Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward, Two Versions

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I deleted the second one. No one liked it. The main difference was the
 lack of a mirror, but I sort of botched up my first attempt at
 darkening the sky as well. The one that's up there now is a
 modification of the first version.


From a purely compositional view I would have liked to see more of the
car...
(but don't know what constraints you had on site.)

ann


 On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:28 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

  Rats, I can't get the second one to come up, Paul
  ann
 
  Cotty wrote:
 
  On 24/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  The original version:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907524size=lg
 
  Much prefer the original. The mirror adds quirky interest.
 
  The modified version:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907709size=lg
 
  You need some more wax on that door ;-)
 
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
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Re: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Jostein
Uhhh.

This situation is my kind of nightmare.
With the *istD, I find that flare occurs with the sun further outside
the frame than it used to with 35mm film. There's the curse of an
image circle larger than the sensor...:-(

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:51 PM
Subject: PESO Hail to the flare bear


 So I'm in a strange mood:

 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg

 Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the
sun :-)

 Cheers,


 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




Re: Anyone shoot hockey with their digital?

2004-11-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
Thanks for the clarification.
I'm looking for a RAW convertor ( better than the Pentax supplied plug in)
that will work with Windows 98 SE. I have access to the Nikon Raw convertor.

As far as white balance is concerned, I shoot all my stuff outdoors in jpeg.
and have been having good results with WB set to auto. I do balance
correction in PS 7.0.

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone shoot hockey with their digital?


You're implying that Nikon Capture will process RAW
 from the *ist D?
 
  Kenneth Waller

 No.
 I just mentioned the istD and my D2h can handle preset WB and i was just
wondering what
 people were
 using for the preset,(ice,lights,towel as per WW)be it the nikon or
pentax.
 Sorry for the confusion.

 Dave





Re: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
So I guess this is a Solar Bear?

Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:51 AM
Subject: PESO Hail to the flare bear


 So I'm in a strange mood:

 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg

 Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun
:-)

 Cheers,


 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




Re: automated response

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Hey, they can't all be gems.  (Watch it there...)
Jostein wrote:
There's a better pun in asking Collin where he's going to for such an
occasion...:-)
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

So you don't want to be what you eat?
Cotty wrote:
   

On 24/11/04, Collin Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:

 

Hi.
We're travelling for Thanksgiving so may not respond.
We'll be back next week.
Have a great Thanksgiving.
   

Thanks but I don't do Thanksgiving.

Cheers,
Cotty
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--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
   

peacetime.
 

--P.J. O'Rourke
   


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
Dave, I like the pose and the background trees, but the exposure needs
help - way to dark on the face on my monitor.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:17 AM
Subject: Paw N'other one of Copper



   http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg

 Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i submitted last week. She's on
the rock, but i
 was shooting into
 the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a silloette thingy. Very
cloudy overcast day.
 This was the better scan of the two shots. I know there is not much detail
in the body,but
 the face
 seems ok.
 Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she hear's the click.

 Again,enjoy and attack a way.

 Dave





Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote:

 On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 
  Well, THAT is a relief! I was going to say it didn't look quite real,
  but
  thought it was.
  There are people like that out there, alas.
 
 You're right, there are some people, who actually dress like that and
 just kind of live in the past.

ah - it isn't the dress as much as the vacuous expressions - but now
that you have explained it, those expressions might have been a kind of
self-conciousness.

I wasn't  making a comment on goodness or badness... and am certainly
the last one to criticize anyone for being different, Paul, so I hope you
don't
misunderstand.  That being said, read what I wrote to Keith... :)

Nothing about beliefs here, either.  But I will proudly bear the banner
of being
a minority in just about any circle of beliefs, if it came to that.

Anyway, now I know why I sold those two Hawaiian shirts on ebay :)
Which I think goes back to the 40's, actually.

ann

 You'll find them at the Dream Cruise
 along with ordinary folk who are just play acting. I think a lot of
 people with a retro lifestyle are attracted to the car culture, because
 it's all wound up in that kind of thing. I've met quite a few people
 over the years who are stuck in the fifties. And guess what? They may
 look funny and hold certain beliefs that are different than most of us.
 But a lot of them are really good people. In fact there's probably
 about the same percentage of good people among stuck in the fifties,
 high school dropout,  blue-collar folk as there are  among well
 educated, east coast liberals. Nothing to be afraid of in either crowd.



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 So?  There are people with all sorts of appearances and beliefs out
 there.  Why be critical of anyone because of their appearance.  I can't
 help but think of all those tattooed bikers dressed in leather that descend
 on Sturgis every year, most of whom ar doctors, businessmen, and just plain
 folks, but who like to dress up as tough guys and women every now and
 then when riding their Harleys.  Thank goodness everyone's not like you ...
 or me, or Paul, etc.  I'm surprised at your seemingly narrow-minded
 comment, Ann.

 Shel

Boy, you missed the point too, Shel...
(a) I thought Paul took the picture because he was making a judgment or found
it weird,actually.
 so that Yikes became a compliment.
(b)But  look at the faces - it is not the choice of wardrobe, it is the
characterless,
 emotionless look.  (read what I just wrote to Paul)  a kind of emptiness.
 If they were all laughing and winking,it would be clear it was
play-acting.

(C) But I will confess the tacky dashboard object got to me.  Of course if it
is a deliberate
 stage thing, the whole thing changes.

I also kinda am quick to say my gut reaction -which should never be taken quite
as seriously
as a couple of folk here  took mine, about this picture.

I'm glad at least you said you were surprised Shel :)  Cause I don't think I'm
narow minded -
in a socialogical sense,anyway - just opionated !:)

ann
can you guys just please add smileys to most of my posts???







  Ann Sanfedele wrote:

   Well, THAT is a relief! I was going to say it didn't look quite real,
   but thought it was. There are people like that out there, alas.

  Paul said:

  You're right, there are some people, who actually dress like that and
  just kind of live in the past. You'll find them at the Dream Cruise
  along with ordinary folk who are just play acting. I think a lot of
  people with a retro lifestyle are attracted to the car culture, because
  it's all wound up in that kind of thing. I've met quite a few people
  over the years who are stuck in the fifties. And guess what? They may
  look funny and hold certain beliefs that are different than most of us.
  But a lot of them are really good people. In fact there's probably
  about the same percentage of good people among stuck in the fifties,
  high school dropout,  blue-collar folk as there are  among well
  educated, east coast liberals. Nothing to be afraid of in either crowd.



Re: M series lens questions

2004-11-26 Thread Fred
 This brings up the question, did pentax ever relabel any of the
 K lenses as M with exact same optical and mechanical design?

I think that the K 100/4 Macro was morphed into the M 100/4 Macro
and the M 100/4 Dental Macro without any significant changes.

Similarly, I think that the K 400/5.6 was morphed into the M
400/5.6 (although I think an auto diaphragm was added, perhaps?).

 Then the second question would be were any of the M lenses same
 OPTICALLY as the K but just repackaged into smaller barrels?

I would say that the K 50/1.4 was downsized into the M 50/1.4,
without any major optical changes (although there may have been a
wee bit of tweaking done...).

I believe that the K 50/4 Macro was basically just downsized into
the M 50/4.

Fred




Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul Stenquist wrote:

 On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:24 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 
 
  Unfortunately it isn't a time warp :(
  Hawaiian shirts are back in, btw.
 

 You're wrong. It is a time warp. It's from the Dream Cruise, which is a
 week long, retro focused, party, where those of us in Detroit celebrate
 what we do here by driving up and down Woodward in classic cars, hot
 rods, and all manner of unusual vehicles. This year it drew 1.5 million
 spectators and 30,000 cars. A lot of people dress up fifties style with
 greased up hair, beehives, and poodle skirts. It's all just for fun.
 Nothing evil or distasteful about it.

I wrote a couple of other replies - among them,showing relief that it
wasn't for
real (In this particular case)

That being said - Hawaiian shorts are back in , I'm told, at least as
collectables...
the 50's, I think, are in for style.

But my comment about it not being a time warp was a politcal statement -
triggered by, but not really _about_ your pic, Paul.

The thing about nostalgia is it erases the bad stuff of whatever decade you

are being nostagic about.

ann






RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Don Sanderson
Last count was:
3 Pentax M (One ea. 2,1.7,1.4)
3 Penatx A (One ea. 2,1.7,1.4)
1 Pentax KAF (1.7)
3 Pentax SM
3 Other brand K/KA
2 Other brand SM

Don (Asking himself why he still wants MORE?)


 -Original Message-
 From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 10:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
 he has at least a hundred.
 
 Jens Bladt wrote:
 
 Who said I only have one?
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
 The best one is the one you own.
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on 
 during peacetime.
   --P.J. O'Rourke
 
 



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
I think we are in a decade of no style, or every style, things from the 
50's 60's 70's and 80's are in style.  Maybe 40's and 90's for that 
matter.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 

On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:24 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
   

Unfortunately it isn't a time warp :(
Hawaiian shirts are back in, btw.
 

You're wrong. It is a time warp. It's from the Dream Cruise, which is a
week long, retro focused, party, where those of us in Detroit celebrate
what we do here by driving up and down Woodward in classic cars, hot
rods, and all manner of unusual vehicles. This year it drew 1.5 million
spectators and 30,000 cars. A lot of people dress up fifties style with
greased up hair, beehives, and poodle skirts. It's all just for fun.
Nothing evil or distasteful about it.
   

I wrote a couple of other replies - among them,showing relief that it
wasn't for
real (In this particular case)
That being said - Hawaiian shorts are back in , I'm told, at least as
collectables...
the 50's, I think, are in for style.
But my comment about it not being a time warp was a politcal statement -
triggered by, but not really _about_ your pic, Paul.
The thing about nostalgia is it erases the bad stuff of whatever decade you
are being nostagic about.
ann


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
Because you can :))

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

Don said:
 Don (Asking himself why he still wants MORE?)



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread John Francis
Peter J. Alling mused:
 
 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
 he has at least a hundred.

I've only got three; the A50/f1.7 I've had for ages (I believe I got
it in 1983 when I bought my Super Program), the A50/f1.4 I picked up
through rec.photo.marketplace before all the sales moved over to eBay,
and the F50/f1.7 I was given by a neighbour together with his SF-1 and
Takumar 28-80.

I should also have an ME Super  M50/1.4, but that mysteriously vanished.


The original reason I ended up with Pentax was because of the quality
of the M42 50/f1.4; I bought one of those, and a Spotmatic II, with my
first paycheck.  I'm not sure which of the variants it was, but it was
the version current in 1972 (probably a Super Multi Coated Takumar).



Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Peter J. Alling wrote:

 I think we are in a decade of no style, or every style, things from the
 50's 60's 70's and 80's are in style.  Maybe 40's and 90's for that
 matter.


LOL! yeah - guess that's right...
ann
who likes the sentiment displayed on the French Connection United Kingdom
abbreviation on their hats :)








Re: *ist Ds + A20/2.8 or 24/2.8 - will it work?

2004-11-26 Thread Andre Langevin
...doesn't say anything about the glass in the A20/2.8... However, 
the brochure does say it has a Pentax original Floating Mechanism. 
So I guess you'll be ok if it falls into a bucket of water.

Cheers,
 Bob
I'll favor my K28/2 when I go canoeing then.  Any other floating lenses?
Andre


Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
2 50/1.4 Tak's, 2 50/1.4 SMCT's, 1 SMCK 50/1.2, 1 SMCK 50/1.4,
1 SMCA 50/1.4
 I need to set the Tak's in a window for a while.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think
 he has at least a hundred.

 Jens Bladt wrote:

 Who said I only have one?
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 26. november 2004 10:34
 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Emne: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens
 
 
 The best one is the one you own.
 
 
 
 
 
 


 -- 
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during
peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke





Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Why be critical of anyone because of their appearance I'm 
surprised at your seemingly narrow-minded
 comment, Ann.

Her comment rather took me by surprise, too -- like Keith, I wondered if she 
was perhaps looking at a different picture.
I was -- still am -- rather confused.

ERNR




Re: FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!


KK Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint
KK 
KK In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but
KK the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind.

Kostas, I wonder what is your price tag for this lens? Hope you accept
pay pal and ship to Israel :).

Thanks.

Boris
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
 he has at least a hundred.

Three of them here -- M50/1.4, M50/2, F50/1.7

(Two were bought on purpose, the other came with an ME Super from a pawnshop 
several years ago.)

ERNR
who hasn't run any sort of comparison tests between them



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well I started it so I might as well contribute.
m42
Super Tak. 1.8, 
SMC Tak 1.8 x 2  (So they're 55's close enough I guess.)
SMC Tak 1.4

K mount
SMCP 1.8 (see note above.)
SMCP-M 1.4 x 2
That makes 7 so I guess I'm a piker by comparison to some on this list.
I almost never use them since I find I have the 43mm ltd on my cameras a 
lot more.  (I am looking forward to using the SMCP 1.8 55 as a portrait 
lens on the *ist-d, if I can ever afford one)

John Francis wrote:
Peter J. Alling mused:
 

All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
he has at least a hundred.
   

I've only got three; the A50/f1.7 I've had for ages (I believe I got
it in 1983 when I bought my Super Program), the A50/f1.4 I picked up
through rec.photo.marketplace before all the sales moved over to eBay,
and the F50/f1.7 I was given by a neighbour together with his SF-1 and
Takumar 28-80.
I should also have an ME Super  M50/1.4, but that mysteriously vanished.
The original reason I ended up with Pentax was because of the quality
of the M42 50/f1.4; I bought one of those, and a Spotmatic II, with my
first paycheck.  I'm not sure which of the variants it was, but it was
the version current in 1972 (probably a Super Multi Coated Takumar).
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Film vs. Digital - A necessary test

2004-11-26 Thread Jon Glass
Actually, that was an Apple-insider's joke. As in Apple computers. When 
the Apple iBook first came out, one of their colors was Tangerine... it 
wasn't allowed to call them orange only Tangerine as in a 
Tangerine iBook, _not_ and orange iBook. :-D Sorry, OT...
On Nov 26, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Peter J. Alling wrote:

Orange, tangerine, they look the same...
Jon Glass wrote:
On Nov 26, 2004, at 2:02 AM, Peter J. Alling wrote:
What if it's an orange Apple.
There were only Tangerine Apples... ;-)
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re[2]: *ist DS versus *ist D for the Digital Newbie

2004-11-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

lptc What is the advantage of a pentaprism compared to the penta-mirror?
lptc I have an MZ-6 with a penta-mirror.

I think it can be measured very simply. Take a soft lens, mount it
on MZ-6 and try to bring it to focus manually without electronics
helping you. Then, mount same lens of *istD.

In my case (-6 dptr in each eye and constant glasses), *istD works
marvels compared to MZ-6.

YMMV of course.
 


Boris
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: M series lens questions

2004-11-26 Thread Andre Langevin
I would say that the K 50/1.4 was downsized into the M 50/1.4,
without any major optical changes (although there may have been a
wee bit of tweaking done...).
The M lens is a new design.  Different elements dimensions, curves 
and space between them.  Boz' site for years had the same diagram for 
both lenses but it has been corrected last year.

I believe that the K 50/4 Macro was basically just downsized into
the M 50/4.
Fred
Yeap. It was quite substancially downsized: shorter internal hood, 
less baffling inside the barrel.  It became a hiking lens!

Cheers,
Andre


Re: Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread Rick Womer
Your Copper looks a lot like the dog we had when I was
growing up--the trees in the background remind me of
our wooded back yard, too.  It brings back nice
memories.

Apart from the dog's less-than-endearing facial
expression at the moment of the snap, I think the
picture could be improved through cropping or
different framing. I would either crop it into a
vertical, leaving out the dog's body and reducing the
space above his head, or re-frame (re-shoot) including
the rest of the dog's body.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg 
 
 Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i
 submitted last week. She's on the rock, but i
 was shooting into 
 the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a
 silloette thingy. Very cloudy overcast day.
 This was the better scan of the two shots. I know
 there is not much detail in the body,but
 the face 
 seems ok.
 Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she
 hear's the click.
 
 Again,enjoy and attack a way.
 
 Dave  
 
 
 


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Re: *ist DS review in this month's (Dec04) Popular Photography

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

That is the beauty of AA batteries, even NIMH ones.
My buddy with the Canon Rebel has spent a couple of hundred dollars 
on batteries for his camera.
I've spent less than 100 for my battery set, and I get twice the life 
he gets.

That is odd. The Canon supplied batteries are expensive, but for a couple
of batteries it shouldn't come to three figures, and I'm astonished you
get twice the life. Of course there may be other factors involved such as
LCD on-times, IS lenses etc.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, I did say seemingly.  As for smilies, perhaps you should add 'em
yourself ;-))

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm glad at least you said you were surprised Shel :)  Cause I don't
think I'm
 narow minded - in a socialogical sense,anyway - just opionated !:)




Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Gee, what kind of PDMLer are you if you've not run at least some sort of
comparison test?  Sheesh! The audacity of some people.  At least put 'em
side by side and photograph them LOL

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Three of them here -- M50/1.4, M50/2, F50/1.7

 ERNR
 who hasn't run any sort of comparison tests between them




Re: Commercial printing of raw files in Sydney

2004-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 24 Nov 2004 at 20:49, Charles Wilson wrote:

 Just wondered if any Sydney people knows where I can get some big prints 
 done from Pentax raw files.  Did think of buying an Epson 2200 printer and 
 doing
 my own, but figure it might be easier to get it done commercially if someone
 would accept files from pentax raw manipulated in Photo shop.

No one anywhere prints from RAW files direct to my knowledge and as soon as 
they are manipulated and saved in PS they effectively cease to be a RAW file. 
You will find that most local digital labs specify JPG or J2K files via email 
(not limited to Sydney labs then) or TIFF by direct media (physical delivery or 
post).

Well respected local labs are Vision Graphics, Photo King and Pixel Perfect.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's a fine lens ... got one a few months ago and initially wasn't too
happy with it, but after some use and closer examination of the photos and
scans, have been very pleased.  It'll be great on the istD(s), and works
pretty well as a wider portrait lens on a 35mm slr as well.  Plus, the
AOV makes for a more interesting perspective than a typical 50mm at times.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I almost never use them since I find I have the 43mm ltd on my cameras a 
 lot more.  (I am looking forward to using the SMCP 1.8 55 as a portrait 
 lens on the *ist-d, if I can ever afford one)




Re: Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread brooksdj
I dont doubt it. I had a hard time getting it to this stage.:-)

Its not a great image,just thought id pass it on until i get a better one going 
next
weekg

Dave

 Dave, I like the pose and the background 
trees, but the 
exposure needs
 help - way to dark on the face on my monitor.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:17 AM
 Subject: Paw N'other one of Copper
 
 
 
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg
 
  Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i submitted last week. She's on
 the rock, but i
  was shooting into
  the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a silloette thingy. Very
 cloudy overcast day.
  This was the better scan of the two shots. I know there is not much detail
 in the body,but
  the face
  seems ok.
  Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she hear's the click.
 
  Again,enjoy and attack a way.
 
  Dave
 
 
 






RE: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Nov 2004 at 11:30, Don Sanderson wrote:

 Last count was:
 3 Pentax M (One ea. 2,1.7,1.4)
 3 Penatx A (One ea. 2,1.7,1.4)
 1 Pentax KAF (1.7)
 3 Pentax SM
 3 Other brand K/KA
 2 Other brand SM

I used to be like you, I had 4 x A50/1.2 and a K at one stage, I'm now back to 
a far more sensible 3 x A50/1.2 and a handful of other assorted 50s :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: Pentax Ads in Australia

2004-11-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
...but the focus point guidelines could be distracting
One of the first things I did with my D was to turn these off. I'm sure 
one can with the DS as well.

Joe


Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Why be critical of anyone because of their appearance I'm
 surprised at your seemingly narrow-minded
  comment, Ann.

 Her comment rather took me by surprise, too -- like Keith, I wondered if she
 was perhaps looking at a different picture.
 I was -- still am -- rather confused.

 ERNR

Hey ern, by now you have probably read my defense :)

It was a flip comment but I can't quite apologize
- in my vernacular
Oh, barf is shorthand for lots of things.
and Yikes is always kinda tongue in cheek - this got much deeper than
I meant it, thats for sure.

ann






Re: Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread Kenneth Waller
How are you metering these images?
I would spotmeter the dog's face  compensate accordingly (bracket reduced
exposure around -1.0, -1., -.5, -1.5)

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Paw N'other one of Copper


 I dont doubt it. I had a hard time getting it to this stage.:-)

 Its not a great image,just thought id pass it on until i get a better one
going next
 weekg

 Dave

Dave, I like the pose and the background trees, but the
 exposure needs
  help - way to dark on the face on my monitor.
 
  Kenneth Waller
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 5:17 AM
  Subject: Paw N'other one of Copper
 
 
  
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg
  
   Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i submitted last week. She's
on
  the rock, but i
   was shooting into
   the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a silloette thingy. Very
  cloudy overcast day.
   This was the better scan of the two shots. I know there is not much
detail
  in the body,but
   the face
   seems ok.
   Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she hear's the click.
  
   Again,enjoy and attack a way.
  
   Dave
  
  
 







Re: Paw N'other one of Copper

2004-11-26 Thread wendy beard
Hi Dave,
You know im a sucker for dog shots :-)
But this really doesn't work for me. The
background is just too grey and the dog isn't
sillhouetted enough. It looks like she has her front
lower canine tooth hooked over her top lip in that
goofy way that dogs often do when you want them to
pose.
I can't really tell if her mouth is blurry because I
can't make out much of the detail.
Sorry!

Wendy


 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
   
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper3.jpg 
 
 Shot this one just prior to the rock shot i
 submitted last week. She's on the rock, but i
 was shooting into 
 the setting sun and was trying for a bit of a
 silloette thingy. Very cloudy overcast day.
 This was the better scan of the two shots. I know
 there is not much detail in the body,but
 the face 
 seems ok.
 Her mouth is a bit blurry as she moves it when she
 hear's the click.
 
 Again,enjoy and attack a way.
 
 Dave  
 
 
  



Re: FS: 17/4 (M42), SMC-M 85/2

2004-11-26 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

Hi Boris,

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Boris Liberman wrote:

 KK Asahi Pentax Takumar 17/4 Fisheye (M42) Mint
 KK 
 KK In its original cardboard box, only missing the dedicated case (but
 KK the strap is in its original nylon bag!). No blemish of any kind.

 Kostas, I wonder what is your price tag for this lens? Hope you accept
 pay pal and ship to Israel :).

I have no problem shipping to Israel, but I don't take Paypal. The way
I have done things so far is by cash in a registered, insured letter.
It is legal for some countries (Spain, Germany, Slovakia and Finland I
have verified so far). Of course this may pose a problem, as I would
only accept Pounds or Euros (or a combination).

Let me know if that would work for you and we can take it from there.

Kostas



Re: Moving house

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/04, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm dropping off the list for (hopefully) a day while I move into my 
new house.  Or should I say the bank's new house.


Good luck Dave.



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Re: Pentax 67 vs 6x7

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Oooh, your bad.

I admit it.

Norm will appreciate that, when he logs on ...



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Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/04, Steve Larson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hey Cotty :)) How ya be?

Never the same since you coerced me into bastardising a l'il ol' AF280T !
Where will it end?




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Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

All right how many 50's do we all have?  JCO doesn't count since I think 
he has at least a hundred.

I once bought a Tak 55 as an experiment. I have a K50 1.2 that I have
transformed into an EOS-K 50 mm 1.2 buit am selling it soon. When I got
my first MX back in 1980, I bought a body and a 28 f2.8 - - I loathe 50mm
lenses.




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Re: PESO Hail to the flare bear

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

So I'm in a strange mood:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP7964.jpg

Created using my *ist D and A15/3.5 and a blatant disregard for the sun :-)

What's the building Studdsy?




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Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens

2004-11-26 Thread Steve Larson
*evil laugh* You can always just send that lil old flash to me, and pretend
it never happened. :))  Naw, we like your Frankenquipment.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax's Best 50mm Lens


 On 25/11/04, Steve Larson, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Hey Cotty :)) How ya be?
 
 Never the same since you coerced me into bastardising a l'il ol' AF280T !
 Where will it end?
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: PESO: Cruising Woodward

2004-11-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/11/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nothing to be afraid of in either crowd.

That's because I wasn't there.

Mutley




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