Re: *ist D colour balance
On 28 Nov 2004 at 22:17, Kenneth Waller wrote: Would be very informative if you then tried AWB, and similarily compared the results. Will ya huh, will ya? With the colour test card almost filling the frame a very good result, I'll test AWB with some swatches obscured tomorrow. Original files: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/_IGP8939.JPG Daylight http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/_IGP8940.JPG AWB http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/_IGP8941.JPG Manual WB Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: database software
Hi, [...] i think you will find that defining keywords is an inadequate way of filing your images. there is an implied taxonomy of subjects and topics in any system that i have heard any working photographer describe. sunsets at Valley Fire. sunset is a time of day. Valley of Fire State Park is a state park and in nevada which is in the western US which is in the US. Extensis Portfolio has mind share. it doesn't support hierarchical categories. IMatch does, but it has some stupidities that i don't like, one [...] the important things to include are who, what, when, where and why, as usual. Trying to define a hierarchical system is likely to become very restrictive, very quickly. The simplest and probably most effective way of categorising photos is to provide space for a caption which makes sense, i.e. is intended for humans, e.g. 'Sunset. Valley of Fire State Park, USA. November 2004 and space for a large number of search terms, e.g. landscape wildlife weather nevada family holiday Marge Homer Bart Simpson etc. The system looks in both fields for matching terms when you do a search. Note that even though you might type them all into a single field at the interface, they are not necessarily stored or searched as a single field in the database. A simple bit of parsing can add each word to an indexed keyword to speed up searching in relatively large databases. But even this is likely to be unnecessary for the small volumes most of us deal with. Another thing to consider is how you deal with dates. It's all very well putting in a complete date such as 29-Nov-2004 when you're cataloguing the stuff close to the event, but several years later when you want to find it your memory won't be that precise and you'll be thinking 'it was sometime later 2004, I think, or maybe 2005'. I think this is the general approach used for museum collections and similar. Here's what they do in Canada: http://tinyurl.com/5t7mn I imagine similar institutions have similar information on the web. -- Cheers, Bob
I'm back
Hi all, As expected I was away for longer than I expected (sorry if that's confusing). We were only moving across town but it's still been pretty hectic and I'm totally exhausted. I didn't know on Friday that the phone wasn't being connected here until Monday! Not that it matters; I only got the computers set up today anyway. So far there are no losses or breakages. Fingers crossed... there's still a lot of unpacking to do! Cheers, - Dave (yeah I know I've missed two PAWs in a row) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: Speaking of Medium Format - Zeiss Super Ikonta III
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I seriously doubt you or anyone else would have any interest in my grandmother's 85th birthday party or my thanksgiving day family photos ( my only recent usage of the camera ) but I will keep this in mind and take it out on my next outing for some non-family photos and post a few. Err, there is on at the bottom of the page with the Ikonta. Kostas -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Speaking of Medium Format - Zeiss Super Iknonta III Instead of pictures of your cameras (which are nice to see) how about some pictures TAKEN by the camera. Shel
RE: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
I use the Pentax 24mm f/2.8 SMC-A lens. I did use the Sigma 24mm f/1.8 before I got the Pentax, but prefer the compact size of the Pentax. I used mainly manual focus with the Sigma anyway, so don't miss the AF. I tend to take at least the 14mm f/2.8 DA and the 50mm f/1.4 SMC-A as well if I'm out and about, and often a few more. Nick -Original Message- From: Jon Glass[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29/11/04 07:11:47 What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS?
Re: Thanks Guys (135/2.8 A Rating)
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Pat Curran wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my request for a rating of the above lens. Looks like it's one to avoid; pity as KEH have one rated 'bargain' ($94.00) at the moment. You can get a K135/3.5 or M135/3.5 easy with that kind of money. If you add customs and taxes (you are liable to those in Ireland, right?), even the 135/2.5 may be in reach. It looks like the SMC 'M' lenses very often out do their newer 'A' stable mates from what I can see reading PDML posts. Not easy to make that generalisation. SMC-A coatings are probably better for a start. 2) When I upgrade to the * ist D next year, I want to carry over as much compatibility as possible with my lenses. My understanding of the situation is that what you really lose is Tv and P modes. If you use them a lot, problem :-) Kostas
Using 6x7s:was Pentax Samurai.
Paul Stenquist wrote: I used my 6x7 extensively for a couple of years. I shot a lot of magazine pics and stock with it. It had become my main system. It was much better for me than 35mm because I could get very good scans with a cheapo Epson 3200. Whereas with 35mm I would really have had to go with an expensive 4800 dpi film scanner. 6x7 was very practical. But digital made my life so much easier that I just ended up parking it. However, I now plan to have some fun with MF. I bought all of it quite inexpensively (my mirror lockup 6x7 was $202.11 on ebay), so I'm not worried about the equipment investment. As a result of my recent pruning of camera equipment, all my 6x7 equipment went. I was very fortunate that my non-MLU body and other 6x7 equipment (which was far from attractive in condition) sold for good money. The reason for the sale was to acquire another *ist D body as my wife really likes it, but for the last couple of weeks, I have had exclusive access to it and have hardly touched it, the LXs come out on every occasion. I am very seriously considering whether I really need a second digital body; the only two cameras I have seen recently that have really captured my imagination are the Nikon F6 and the Pentax 67II. When I first wanted a digital body, I wanted it to replace colour print film. I half expected it to slowly take over my photographic needs, but much to my surprise, that is exactly what it has done (and very well too), but it can't take the place of slide and BW film for me. And I miss MF Malcolm
Re: Speaking of Medium Format - Zeiss Super Iknonta III
Ahhh, we're straying again. I think the bottom-most photo is excellent. I blew it up to over twice life size on my screen, and it maintains it's quality very well. Much better than a 35mm shot, or most digital images. Nice camera indeed. keith whaley [...] Instead of pictures of your cameras (which are nice to see) how about some pictures TAKEN by the camera. Shel [...]
Re: Disable P-TTL on istDS
Matthew, It seems the only way to force TTL (single flash burst) over P-TTL is to use K/M lenses or to set the aperture fom aperture ring on FA/F/A lenses. Servus, Alin Matthew wrote: MT After some more researching, I think I can restate my problem more clearly. MT I want to use my AF-500FTZ off-camera in slave mode. As a consequence, MT I need to be able to disable the P-TTL or at least split the operation MT into a pre-flash, a delay and then the main flash. MT It looks like TTL becomes the operating mode if the flash is on the MT camera (the 500FTZ doesn't support P-TTL), so everything work well there. MT I can see that the option that I may need to go down is using a hot-shoe MT sync cord to connect to the flash off-camera, which will then drop down MT to the lowest common denominator of TTL. MT Any advice appreciated.
Re: database software
libraries use a hierarchy and not keywords for a reason. Herb... - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:27 AM Subject: Re: database software the important things to include are who, what, when, where and why, as usual. Trying to define a hierarchical system is likely to become very restrictive, very quickly. The simplest and probably most effective way of categorising photos is to provide space for a caption which makes sense, i.e. is intended for humans, e.g. 'Sunset. Valley of Fire State Park, USA. November 2004 and space for a large number of search terms, e.g. landscape wildlife weather nevada family holiday Marge Homer Bart Simpson etc. The system looks in both fields for matching terms when you do a search.
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
Although I've used only primes in the past, the DA 16-45 has become my normal lens as of late. The only downside is it's lack of speed. When I need something faster in the middle of that range, I use an M 35/2. On Nov 29, 2004, at 2:11 AM, Jon Glass wrote: What with all the recent discussion on best lenses, etc. I've been wondering What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS? I'm not looking of best but what lenses made by Pentax would give a good image, comparable to something like 50/1.4 or 50/1.7? What wide angle lenses would make good replacements For reference, I'm not thinking AF, but rather something older, even screw-mount. To confess, the more I think of adapting an ancient screw-mount lens to digital, the more intriguing it sounds. :-) (partly the beauty of putting such an ancient lens on such modern technology, partly just the challenge of it, and only lastly price.) :-) In this case, I suppose, the more the merrier, not the _one_ best. :-D -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: database software
Herb Chong wrote: libraries use a hierarchy and not keywords for a reason. The original and most important reason being the difficulty of implementing a keyword search engine for a manual card index system! The library at my place of work uses a keyword-based (electronic) index. S
An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
http://0utpatient.home.comcast.net/noartifacts/ My son pointed out this format for saving image files. I thought it was very interesting. Jerry in Houston
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
Jerry in Houston wrote: http://0utpatient.home.comcast.net/noartifacts/ My son pointed out this format for saving image files. I thought it was very interesting. I think that article misses the point - JPEG was not designed for images with large areas of monotonous colour and sharp edges, it was designed for photographs. If you do need artefact-free (lossless) compression then there are better options for photos than PNG - lossless JPEG or lossless JPEG2000 for example. S
Re: Speaking of Medium Format - Zeiss Super Iknonta III
On 29/11/04, Steve Jolly, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey, you can't talk, Cotty - I spotted you making an on-topic post not a week ago! Damn, I'm slipping! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
Jerry in Houston wrote: http://0utpatient.home.comcast.net/noartifacts/ My son pointed out this format for saving image files. I thought it was very interesting. Jerry in Houston An interesting expose! However, as with most image manipulation schemes, an image format such as .png is useful only to you personally, on your own computer, or someone who has all the same image viewing capabilities you have. To just arbitrarily send a .png file to someone would be folly, no? It's not in wide enough use yet. So it seems to me... keith whaley
Re: Paw: Fall colours #1
I have to agree with Shel, there was obviously too much red in the first rendition, it may be my monitor but the second seems a bit too cyan. Rebekah Gonzalez wrote: nice fix shel maybe i'm retarded but i kinda like the first one tho. rg2 *PENTAX SAMURAI* - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: RE: Paw: Fall colours #1 Hi Dave You sure live in a nice area. The photo seems to have a strong reddish color cast, and the tree line isn't straight. The image looks a bit soft and lacking in contrast as well. I took the liberty of doing a QD fix: a quick color adjustment, straightening the tree line (which meant making the photo into a slightly more horizontal format), a bit of sharpening, and a little punch in contrast. What do you think? http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/mad2up.jpg Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/mad1_04.jpg I took,what i think, are several nice fall colour pictures with the 6x7 and the PZ-1 this past October. Here is the one i like the best,from the 6x7.Taken a few miles south of the town of Madawaska, which is near Algonquin Park. Kodak E100VS scanned at 1200 in the Epson 2450. It came out bluer than the original, so i adjusted the colour balances.It's not 100% but close. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
I have this neat little photo calculator on my system called fCalc. When I compare diagonal angle of view of APS vs 35mm the 40mm is almost an exact replacement for a 50mm in AOV so I would guess the 43mm would be your best bet. If you believe fCalc that is. If you use the standard 1.5x multiplier suggested by everyone else then You'd be looking for either the FA 35f2 or the A 35f2 as these translate to the equivalent of 52mm. I doubt this helps however. You can get fCalc at http://www.tangentsoft.net/ as I've said it's a neat program. Jon Glass wrote: What with all the recent discussion on best lenses, etc. I've been wondering What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS? I'm not looking of best but what lenses made by Pentax would give a good image, comparable to something like 50/1.4 or 50/1.7? What wide angle lenses would make good replacements For reference, I'm not thinking AF, but rather something older, even screw-mount. To confess, the more I think of adapting an ancient screw-mount lens to digital, the more intriguing it sounds. :-) (partly the beauty of putting such an ancient lens on such modern technology, partly just the challenge of it, and only lastly price.) :-) In this case, I suppose, the more the merrier, not the _one_ best. :-D -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Disable P-TTL on istDS
Ah... Thanks, so there at least two options.. Use a TTL-only capable flash (on camera, works fine), or use a F/FA lense with the aperture ring turned off). Fortunately, a 28 mm lens is equivalent to a 42 mm lens on the *istDS, so my smallest F/FA lens will be suitable for studio work - which will force me to think about aperture and shutter speed :). Regards, Matthew Alin Flaider wrote: Matthew, It seems the only way to force TTL (single flash burst) over P-TTL is to use K/M lenses or to set the aperture fom aperture ring on FA/F/A lenses. Servus, Alin Matthew wrote: MT After some more researching, I think I can restate my problem more clearly. MT I want to use my AF-500FTZ off-camera in slave mode. As a consequence, MT I need to be able to disable the P-TTL or at least split the operation MT into a pre-flash, a delay and then the main flash. MT It looks like TTL becomes the operating mode if the flash is on the MT camera (the 500FTZ doesn't support P-TTL), so everything work well there. MT I can see that the option that I may need to go down is using a hot-shoe MT sync cord to connect to the flash off-camera, which will then drop down MT to the lowest common denominator of TTL. MT Any advice appreciated.
PESO Shuz
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Comments welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: database software
Exactly. Photoshop Elements 3.0, which was just released, now has Photoshop Album built in. I'd tried using previous versions of Album but since it didn't handle PEF I had to convert every image which made the old program less appealing. The new version reads PEF just fine and includes many editing features that I previously needed the full version of Photoshop for. Now my only complaint is that it won't rotate the PEF files unless I convert them to another format. It isn't a big deal and hopefully they can add a way to view the image rotated without actually needing to change the image file. Joel -- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: database software Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Err... Photoshop Elements 3.0, like he said, perhaps? (Elements 3.0 includes Adobe Photoshop Album) Jens Bladt mused: Joel, what software is the basis for you database? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Joel M. Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 07:13 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: database software Larry, I installed Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0 this weekend and am fairly impressed so far. My database has over 11,000 images occupying 31.5 GB and it is working flawlessly. I've been assigning up to 6 tags to each image to specify year, location, subject, etc. It will be interesting to find out if it has a maximum database size. An added bonus, and the feature that prompted me to buy is that it handles Pentax RAW files. Joel Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.
Re: Really OT:Spyware and Adware
Something else to remember: Like virus protection, one must keep these anti-spyware programs up to date with their detection schemes. I've been using spybot and they have an update available every so often. CW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:59 AM Subject: Really OT:Spyware and Adware Seems i have been hit with spyware and adware in my computer this weekend. I googled for downloadable programs,but i dont know what companies are legit or not. Any recomendations on internet removal programs or store bought ones. I keep getting German porn,Ebay and Paypal popups and they are annoying as hell. I ran a free program that checks the computer and i seem to have 150 plus, files in the computer to get rid of. Any help is app. Dave --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004
Re: PESO Shuz
Nice shot, nice legs. But did you get caught? g http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Comments welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
- Original Message - From: Jon Glass Subject: Good normal lens for the *ist-en? What with all the recent discussion on best lenses, etc. I've been wondering What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS? I'm not looking of best but what lenses made by Pentax would give a good image, comparable to something like 50/1.4 or 50/1.7? What wide angle lenses would make good replacements For reference, I'm not thinking AF, but rather something older, even screw-mount. To confess, the more I think of adapting an ancient screw-mount lens to digital, the more intriguing it sounds. :-) (partly the beauty of putting such an ancient lens on such modern technology, partly just the challenge of it, and only lastly price.) :-) FA31/1.8 A35/2 Both work very well. William Robb
Re: PESO Shuz
Rob Studdert, at T=1523.17 : http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg I'd like to see the red leather gloves not-cut and well composed in this shot :) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
PNG format is quite interesting, but not IMHO for saving image files. Displaying them maybe but not saving them. PNG was primarily designed to replace GIF and does an admirable job of that. Anyone who wants to get really geeky can read all about PNG here: http://www.libpng.org/ Jerry in Houston wrote: http://0utpatient.home.comcast.net/noartifacts/ My son pointed out this format for saving image files. I thought it was very interesting. Jerry in Houston -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PESO Shuz
Interesting plane of focus. To me, it seems to be from the one above the cigarette on the floor to the green one on the top of the wall. Did you choose that, or were you not looking through the viewfinder? A candidate for I've got your viewfinder right here (IIRC) I think Otherwise, a rather WWII look about it. I do have a soft spot for that era. mike Rob Studdert wrote: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Comments welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
- Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling Subject: Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG PNG format is quite interesting, but not IMHO for saving image files. Displaying them maybe but not saving them. PNG was primarily designed to replace GIF and does an admirable job of that. Sixteen bit TIFF anyone? Seems to work William Robb
Re: PESO Shuz
On 29 Nov 2004 at 14:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot, nice legs. But did you get caught? g Hi Paul, Worse than that, I wasn't spotted but I confessed anyhow. So now I have one of the ladies contact details, of course only to provide some prints. Lovely lady and a film shooter to boot, she was busy with an SRT101 and a 50mm lens :-) I have some other shots I'd love to share but I'll get the OK first. On 29 Nov 2004 at 14:49, alkos wrote: I'd like to see the red leather gloves not-cut and well composed in this shot :) Ah that's the problem with a grab shot, once it's over that's it. There was a split second where some people moved out of an aisle and I saw the shot, I made two quick exposures and it was all over. I think the red is a hand bag actually but at least one lady had feathers in her hair :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: database software
Thanks, Joel. So, Photoshop Elements 3.0 work as a database/file browser/Thumb Nail Viewer, using keywords/tags and has a search engine? Thanks Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Joel M. Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 15:27 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: database software Exactly. Photoshop Elements 3.0, which was just released, now has Photoshop Album built in. I'd tried using previous versions of Album but since it didn't handle PEF I had to convert every image which made the old program less appealing. The new version reads PEF just fine and includes many editing features that I previously needed the full version of Photoshop for. Now my only complaint is that it won't rotate the PEF files unless I convert them to another format. It isn't a big deal and hopefully they can add a way to view the image rotated without actually needing to change the image file. Joel -- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: database software Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Err... Photoshop Elements 3.0, like he said, perhaps? (Elements 3.0 includes Adobe Photoshop Album) Jens Bladt mused: Joel, what software is the basis for you database? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Joel M. Bach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 07:13 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: database software Larry, I installed Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0 this weekend and am fairly impressed so far. My database has over 11,000 images occupying 31.5 GB and it is working flawlessly. I've been assigning up to 6 tags to each image to specify year, location, subject, etc. It will be interesting to find out if it has a maximum database size. An added bonus, and the feature that prompted me to buy is that it handles Pentax RAW files. Joel Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS? A lot depends, of course, on what each individual considers to be a normal focal length. For the 35mm format, while the common normal FL is considered to be 50mm, some like 55mm better, and there are some who like 77mm or 85mm, while some like 40mm, 35mm, or 31mm. Add in (or multiply by, I guess) the APS cropping factor, and you'd also get quite a range of APS normal focal lengths. Fred
Re: PESO Shuz
Rob Studdert wrote: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Comments welcome. Cheers, Nice grab, Rob - but, um, somehow I don't think the shuz' were your main inspiration to grab that shot :) ann Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO Shuz
Rob Studdert wrote on 29.11.04 16:23: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Shuz are nice, but legz even nicer (at least to my man's eyes ;-) Well done Rob, good framing, DOF, exposure, right moment and subject :-) Do we need more? -- Best Regards Sylwek
RE: database software
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Re: PESO Shuz
How many women ARE there? I see at least two other legs, or parts thereof, beyond the obvious two in the foreground: One foot with a shoe with a teal leather covering, propped up on the balustrade, and a foot on the ground behind her, a riveted shoe strap that doesn't belong to either, facing to the right... Nice shot! keith alkos wrote: Rob Studdert, at T=1523.17 : http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg I'd like to see the red leather gloves not-cut and well composed in this shot :)
Re: PESO: Damp fall morning
Keith That's not a Boxter. It's a Toyota, man...inline 4 Cory needs to get moving and take care of some of this honeydo... - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Damp fall morning cbwaters wrote: [...] Pretty lake, even when dismal! Cory Drooling over this: http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/photos-l/atx828afpro.jpg Oh, that's nice, but... And this: http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/01812211990001LRG.jpg I've run out of drool and had to replenish periodically, over the Boxter! bg keith whaley --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004
Re: PESO Shuz
Rob Studdert wrote on 11/29/2004, 10:23 AM: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Nice legs! Last summer I was walking around DC with my camera during a lunch break, spotted a woman with the most over-the-top, highest, gold stiletto shoes I've ever seen. I had a 200mm lens on the ist D but missed the shot as traffic came between us. In an instant she was gone -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
istDS AE-L button
I got my Ds tonight... it's a little gem. It cost me around USD833 body only in Taiwan I don't know whether this info has been posted before, so I'll post it again. And the first thing I checked was the use of MF lenses. When set in M mode and the use of the aperture ring, the correct exposure will be measured, set and locked by a single press of the AE-L button without the need of using DOF lever... Just like the green button on the istD... Fantastic! Cheers Andy
PESO - Coming in for a landing
Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO: Damp fall morning
cbwaters wrote: Keith That's not a Boxter. It's a Toyota, man...inline 4 Wow! The similarities are there. Model? MR2? Rear wheel drive, yet! Astounding. As is the price! I could almost afford one of those! thanks, keith - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Damp fall morning [] And this: http://auto.consumerguide.com/images/autoreview/lrg/01812211990001LRG.jpg I've run out of drool and had to replenish periodically, over the Boxter! bg keith whaley
Re: Thanks Guys (135/2.8 A Rating)
Kostas Kavoussanakis mused: On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Pat Curran wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my request for a rating of the above lens. Looks like it's one to avoid; pity as KEH have one rated 'bargain' ($94.00) at the moment. You can get a K135/3.5 or M135/3.5 easy with that kind of money. If you add customs and taxes (you are liable to those in Ireland, right?), even the 135/2.5 may be in reach. It looks like the SMC 'M' lenses very often out do their newer 'A' stable mates from what I can see reading PDML posts. Not easy to make that generalisation. SMC-A coatings are probably better for a start. 2) When I upgrade to the * ist D next year, I want to carry over as much compatibility as possible with my lenses. My understanding of the situation is that what you really lose is Tv and P modes. If you use them a lot, problem :-) Kostas Not quite. That's what you lose if you use a pre-A lens on a camera such as a PZ-1p, an MZ-S, or many other cameras from the Pentax line. On the *ist-D bodies you also lose Av and P modes, and live metering. (in other words: on a camera with an aperture simulator coupling you have something that works rather like an ME series body; on a camera without that coupling you're back to the days of the Spotmatic II).
lots of pdml
looking for an old email message on my computer, I decided to look up the oldest PDML message I had. May 4, 2003 From Jim Apilado RE: Old man of the mountain gone. This computer went online about that time and the hard drive in the old one is a brick now so anything before then is gone. looking at old folders and archives, I have 103,245 PDML messages on my computer. I've been around here since some time in 00 judging by my first PUG entry from October 00. man...I really need to go outside... Cory --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. No, no! LOVE your birds... You have a touch with them. keith whaley Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated.
Re: Paw: Fall colours #1
Hi Peter, There may be a bit too much cyan as the adjustments were quick and not very fine. Mostly I was just trying to show Dave a technique or two, which we discussed in private mail. Looking at the pics again I don't see too much cyan, but it's been proven over the years that others have a better eye for subtle color than do I. Shel [Original Message] From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/29/2004 5:35:07 AM Subject: Re: Paw: Fall colours #1 I have to agree with Shel, there was obviously too much red in the first rendition, it may be my monitor but the second seems a bit too cyan.
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
On Nov 29, 2004, at 3:45 PM, William Robb wrote: Sixteen bit TIFF anyone? Seems to work Yeah, that's what I do. When I open a JPEG out of my camera, in Photoshop, the first thing I do is save it as a TIFF. From there, I keep it until I save a copy for printing, and that's when I do sharpening and sizing. Only the jpeg gets these things. The TIFF is for working and saving. JPEGs are for web and sharing. Works great for me! (and my hard drive is filling.) ;-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: istDS AE-L button
Andy Chang wrote: And the first thing I checked was the use of MF lenses. When set in M mode and the use of the aperture ring, the correct exposure will be measured, set and locked by a single press of the AE-L button without the need of using DOF lever... Just like the green button on the istD... Thanks for confirming this, Andy. We've been hearing alot, but it's nice to know that someone with a DS has had success. -Ryan
SV: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
...should be divide by crop factor, right! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 16:14 Til: Jon Glass Emne: Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en? What would make a good normal lens for an *istD or *istDS? A lot depends, of course, on what each individual considers to be a normal focal length. For the 35mm format, while the common normal FL is considered to be 50mm, some like 55mm better, and there are some who like 77mm or 85mm, while some like 40mm, 35mm, or 31mm. Add in (or multiply by, I guess) the APS cropping factor, and you'd also get quite a range of APS normal focal lengths. Fred
Re: database software
I've just discovered that PS CS File Browser is much improved over PS7 - including assigning keywords to tagged picture files, fully searchable. Lookin good :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: lots of pdml
On 29/11/04, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: looking at old folders and archives, I have 103,245 PDML messages on my computer. I've been around here since some time in 00 judging by my first PUG entry from October 00. man...I really need to go outside... Cory You're a sad case mate - there's no hope Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Great shot. Looks like he's in the middle of his final landing adjustments. Keeper:-) Dave Brooks Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated.
RE: Thanks Guys (135/2.8 A Rating)
That's true, John, in a way. But it's still a little more convenient, that the stopped down measuring is done electronically and the camera (*ist D/DS) remembers the metered value/appropriate shutter speed. I only use 4-5 K or M lenses on the *ist D (35, 105, 135, 300, 70-150mm), so it's not really a big issue. My most used lenses are A, F or FA. On the other hand - if the *ist D had an aperture simulator, I might get some more (good) old lenses. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 18:32 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Thanks Guys (135/2.8 A Rating) Kostas Kavoussanakis mused: On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Pat Curran wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my request for a rating of the above lens. Looks like it's one to avoid; pity as KEH have one rated 'bargain' ($94.00) at the moment. You can get a K135/3.5 or M135/3.5 easy with that kind of money. If you add customs and taxes (you are liable to those in Ireland, right?), even the 135/2.5 may be in reach. It looks like the SMC 'M' lenses very often out do their newer 'A' stable mates from what I can see reading PDML posts. Not easy to make that generalisation. SMC-A coatings are probably better for a start. 2) When I upgrade to the * ist D next year, I want to carry over as much compatibility as possible with my lenses. My understanding of the situation is that what you really lose is Tv and P modes. If you use them a lot, problem :-) Kostas Not quite. That's what you lose if you use a pre-A lens on a camera such as a PZ-1p, an MZ-S, or many other cameras from the Pentax line. On the *ist-D bodies you also lose Av and P modes, and live metering. (in other words: on a camera with an aperture simulator coupling you have something that works rather like an ME series body; on a camera without that coupling you're back to the days of the Spotmatic II).
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. SUPER shot Christian, nicely done. You've captured well a familiar site to us all with some nice light and a clean background. Lovely! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: database software
Cotty wrote on 11/29/2004, 12:58 PM: I've just discovered that PS CS File Browser is much improved over PS7 - including assigning keywords to tagged picture files, fully searchable. Lookin good :-) PS CS is becoming my one-stop-shop for photo editing/browsing... Anybody tried to make a CD cover using the contact sheet II? Looks like I'm going to be organized for once! -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO Shuz
On 30/11/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP8873.jpg Hand held grab shot using my *ist D and FA200/2.8, 1/100th @ f6.3 ISO 400 Comments welcome. Leg fetishist! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. bird yes, stupid no gorgeous shot Christian! annsan she how loves birds Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Great shot. You nailed the focus and framing, while catching the critter at the perfect moment. Congratulations. On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. SUPER shot Christian, nicely done. You've captured well a familiar site to us all with some nice light and a clean background. Lovely! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
Nick Clark wrote: I use the Pentax 24mm f/2.8 SMC-A lens. I did use the Sigma 24mm f/1.8 before I got the Pentax, but prefer the compact size of the Pentax. I used mainly manual focus with the Sigma anyway, so don't miss the AF. Could you tell more about Sigma 24/1.8 performance (sharpness, and flare control) ? Have you used it on a full-frame SLR ? Thanks in advance, Jerry
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Christian wrote on 29.11.04 18:22: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. Perfectly lit and nice, far from central framing. Excellent photo! -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek
Re: SV: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
Add in (or multiply by, I guess) the APS cropping factor, and you'd also get quite a range of APS normal focal lengths. ...should be divide by crop factor, right! Oops - yes, that's quite right, Jens. Thanks for catching me in one of my senior moments - g. Fred
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
Add in (or multiply by, I guess) the APS cropping factor, and you'd also get quite a range of APS normal focal lengths. ...should be divide by crop factor, right! Oops - yes, that's quite right, Jens. Thanks for catching me in one of my senior moments - g. Fred
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
I like the shot but Ann...have you ever spent any time with gulls? These things are truly stupid. they've been portrayed perfectly in the Pixar movie Finding Nemo. The light on the wings is really wonderful Christian. Cory MINE! - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele bird yes, stupid no gorgeous shot Christian! annsan she how loves birds --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Yes, it is another stupid bird (but really, let's not underestimate their intelligence), nicely caught. My cats stared at the pic for quite some time and got cat drool all over the monitor and keyboard. I guess that's their complimentary comment as well. Shel Christian wrote on 29.11.04 18:22: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird.
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Awesome shot, Christian! Great web site too, BTW. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 19:20 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing Christian wrote: Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. bird yes, stupid no gorgeous shot Christian! annsan she how loves birds Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: database software
Hi, Monday, November 29, 2004, 11:28:50 AM, Herb wrote: libraries use a hierarchy and not keywords for a reason. I used to work at the British Library. Hierarchical systems are good if you have to trawl through millions of card boxes manually. Keywords are good if you've got a computer. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: PESO - Coming in for a landing
The bird may be stupid but the shot is brilliant. Nice. Don -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO Shuz
Hi, Monday, November 29, 2004, 4:46:19 PM, Keith wrote: How many women ARE there? Just the one. The rest are guys. or Just the one. Evolution's a bit weird down there -- Cheers, Bob
Digicam for Sis Niece
Both my sister and niece have birthdays close to one another, and they are near Christmas and Chanukah. I was thinking about getting them a little digicam - mostly so they can send me pictures. Here's what I think would be ideal, in no particular order: Good, accurate autofocus without them having to fiddle much, if at all, with various controls; Enough pixels for 5x7 sized prints of reasonable quality; Adjustable flash exposure (a few levels would be fine); Zoom lens with something like a 28~90 or 35~105 or so range; Reasonably fast lens (not one of those 5.6 to 9.0 types); Able to make three or so levels of JPEG adjustment; Non proprietary battery; Possibly a connector so they can see pics on TV screen, maybe a slide show feature; Simple, easy to understand controls, easy to understand manual; Not so big that they won't carry it with them, not so small that it's a PITA to use; Anything else that non techie folks might find useful in a digi cam oh, yes, easy to load to a computer maybe with direct camera connection; No need to load much, if any, software to make the camera useful for them to send me email pics Doesn't have to be a Pentax, but it would be nice since I could get help here if need be. I don't know anything about the Optios or other Pentax digicam models. Shel
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
At 09:46 AM 29/11/2004 , Jon Glass wrote: Yeah, that's what I do. When I open a JPEG out of my camera, in Photoshop, the first thing I do is save it as a TIFF. All this does is make the file much larger. Saving as tif or psd makes sense for images which you edit but the if the original is a jpg archive that. Don't edit the original jpg and re-save it. Powell
RE: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
I suppose a normal lens today is a zoom lens, meaning normally on the body for casual shooting. For the Pentax *ist D (APS-C format) I suppose it's something like the SMC Pentax 16-45mm F4 ED AL, although a little slow for my taste. I guess my choice would be something like the Sigma 2.8/18-50 DC (equal to something like 28-75mm for 35mm) as the normal lens (I haven't got/tried it yet, though...). It's priced very similar to the Pentax 16-45mm. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 19:41 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en? Add in (or multiply by, I guess) the APS cropping factor, and you'd also get quite a range of APS normal focal lengths. ...should be divide by crop factor, right! Oops - yes, that's quite right, Jens. Thanks for catching me in one of my senior moments - g. Fred
Re: PESO Shuz
Bob W, at T=1920.16 : Just the one. The rest are guys. I can imagine some of us are beginning to feel a little uncomfortable now ;))) Let me guess: is it the first one (pair of legs)? -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
Enabled.... hmmm
It´s strange. I was planning to buy a 77mm because I sometimes think the A*85 1.4 is too big, and suddenly I´ve got a myth in my hands. The A*135 1.8 is even larger, but I couldn´t resist at the price of NOK 3500 (a little more than US $500). At least I saved it from the hands of a collector, it is almost without a scratch, even the PASSED sticker is intact, with hood, case and SMC Pentax UV filter. It is sad when these lenses are not used :-) DagT
Re: lots of pdml
On 29 Nov 2004 at 18:03, Cotty wrote: On 29/11/04, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: looking at old folders and archives, I have 103,245 PDML messages on my computer. I've been around here since some time in 00 judging by my first PUG entry from October 00. man...I really need to go outside... Cory You're a sad case mate - there's no hope Har, I've got live list archives back to June 98 :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: An Alternative to JPEG...:PNG
On Nov 29, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Powell Hargrave wrote: All this does is make the file much larger. Saving as tif or psd makes sense for images which you edit but the if the original is a jpg archive that. Don't edit the original jpg and re-save it. Right, but I'm also not opening an image in PS unless I'm going to be editing it. :-) I do the save as... to prevent me from accidently saving it as a jpeg again. -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO Shuz
On 29 Nov 2004 at 11:07, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Nice grab, Rob - but, um, somehow I don't think the shuz' were your main inspiration to grab that shot :) Har, thanks Ann, I'm not silly, but the shuz were interesting weren't they? :-) On 29 Nov 2004 at 17:25, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: Shuz are nice, but legz even nicer (at least to my man's eyes ;-) Well done Rob, good framing, DOF, exposure, right moment and subject :-) Do we need more? Thanks Sylwek, as I said it was a quick grab shot, fortunately I had the right lens on and a clear shot, I'm pretty happy it turned out that way, it is full frame too BTW. On 29 Nov 2004 at 8:46, Keith Whaley wrote: How many women ARE there? I see at least two other legs, or parts thereof, beyond the obvious two in the foreground: One foot with a shoe with a teal leather covering, propped up on the balustrade, and a foot on the ground behind her, a riveted shoe strap that doesn't belong to either, facing to the right... Nice shot! Thanks Keith, I think there are at least limbs belonging to 4 ladies in that shot and maybe a couple more in the background bokeh, the perspective is pretty compressed. On 29 Nov 2004 at 12:04, Christian wrote: Nice legs! Last summer I was walking around DC with my camera during a lunch break, spotted a woman with the most over-the-top, highest, gold stiletto shoes I've ever seen. I had a 200mm lens on the ist D but missed the shot as traffic came between us. In an instant she was gone Thanks Christian, yep it doesn't take much for a potential shot to vapourize, sometimes it's great pulling apart a shot after the fact composition wise and sometimes it's no point. In this case I saw it, I shot and I think I bagged it. Even though I'm pretty happy with the pic it's not like something I'd put on a wall, but it's still pleasing to look at :-) On 29 Nov 2004 at 18:13, Cotty wrote: Leg fetishist! Just trying to keep up with you :-) On 29 Nov 2004 at 19:20, Bob W wrote: How many women ARE there? Just the one. The rest are guys. or Just the one. Evolution's a bit weird down there Har, beleive me they are girly legs, all of em, it was paradise :-P Cheers all and thanks for your comments :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Hi! C Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind C http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 C yes, it's another stupid bird. C Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 C 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web C comments welcomed and appreciated. 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee ever since that post. And I drink just few cups of tea every day. But seriously, your technique is amazing. So is this picture. Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Boris Liberman, at T=2101.26 : C Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 C 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do 900mm at 1/800 is quite realistic as one can theoretically shoot 50 at 1/50, 135 at 1/125 etc. without motion blur. The question is rather about _focusing_ BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
Re: PESO Shuz
On Nov 29, 2004, at 10:58 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Thanks Sylwek, as I said it was a quick grab shot, fortunately I had the right lens on and a clear shot, I'm pretty happy it turned out that way, it is full frame too BTW. It's full frame you say? And it is quick grab?? And you had just right lens then??? So it's just another reason to hate you :-P ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Boris Liberman wrote on 11/29/2004, 4:01 PM: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I let you in on my little secret, Boris, I shot at least 20 images of gulls in flight that afternoon. This was the only sharp one But seriously, your technique is amazing. So is this picture. The real keys to this shot were the lighting (head on, full setting sun) which gave me 1/800 shutter speed and the fact that the bird was less than a second from touching down so it was moving relatively slowly. Thanks for your comments. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)
On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee ever since that post. And I drink just few cups of tea every day. Hi Boris, I'm not speaking for Christian but I think that you will find that practice helps a lot and from my experience after you have got good hand holding techniques well practised focus will be your worst enemy. I was shooting a lot over the weekend with my FA200/2.8 and 1.7TC on the *ist D always hand held and there were very few images which were ruined by camera shake particularly those shot at 1/800th or faster. The following shot was made using the lens combo above at a shutter speed of 1/800 @ f7.1 ISO200 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884.jpg FF shot scaled to 25% http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884crop.jpg 100% crop Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
alkos wrote on 11/29/2004, 4:40 PM: 900mm at 1/800 is quite realistic as one can theoretically shoot 50 at 1/50, 135 at 1/125 etc. without motion blur. The question is rather about _focusing_ yeah, and at 900mm [effective] the FOV is very narrow, so keeping the bird in the viewfinder is a PITA and then there's the matter of manually focusing -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)
Rob Studdert wrote on 11/29/2004, 5:44 PM: I'm not speaking for Christian but I think that you will find that practice helps a lot and from my experience after you have got good hand holding techniques well practised focus will be your worst enemy. I was shooting a lot over the weekend with my FA200/2.8 and 1.7TC on the *ist D always hand held and there were very few images which were ruined by camera shake particularly those shot at 1/800th or faster. The following shot was made using the lens combo above at a shutter speed of 1/800 @ f7.1 ISO200 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884.jpg FF shot scaled to 25% http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884crop.jpg 100% crop Not even a ballpark comparison, Mr. Studdert! Your subject(s) wasn't in motion (in three dimensions, I might add!)! :-) But I do agree that focus is the real challenge. Manually focusing on a moving subject with the fov of a 900mm lens is very difficult. Especially since the focus ring of the Sigma only moves about 1/4 turn when manually focusing. I use just the thumb of my left hand to turn it since it is so sensitive. PS: I was wondering what the 100% crop would be. you disappoint me, Mr. Studdert. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On 29 Nov 2004 at 21:40, alkos wrote: BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... I can regularly shoot at 1/4 of the lens FL in seconds and make acceptably sharp shots, my main problem is wind induced subject movement (I shoot a lot of macros in available light). Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Christian, at T=2153.18 : yeah, and at 900mm [effective] the FOV is very narrow, so keeping the bird in the viewfinder is a PITA and then there's the matter of manually focusing so is the DOF... I'm impressed. BTW your page doesn't want to open here in Ireland... :( So I haven't seen the photo yet and I'm impressed with it already ;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
RE: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)
Show off! I was wondering there what you'd choose as your crop. ;-/ (Do all the women in Australia have that many freckles?) Don (Freckle Lover) -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing) On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee ever since that post. And I drink just few cups of tea every day. Hi Boris, I'm not speaking for Christian but I think that you will find that practice helps a lot and from my experience after you have got good hand holding techniques well practised focus will be your worst enemy. I was shooting a lot over the weekend with my FA200/2.8 and 1.7TC on the *ist D always hand held and there were very few images which were ruined by camera shake particularly those shot at 1/800th or faster. The following shot was made using the lens combo above at a shutter speed of 1/800 @ f7.1 ISO200 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884.jpg FF shot scaled to 25% http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884crop.jpg 100% crop Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
BTW. How is your longest time to shoot 50mm steady? Mine is 1/15 when kneeling and using so-called sniper breath technique... I can regularly shoot at 1/4 of the lens FL in seconds and make acceptably sharp shots, my main problem is wind induced subject movement (I shoot a lot of macros in available light). not bad, so to say ;) Actually, its hard to believe for me unless acceptably sharp means the same for us both ;) BTW I was thinking about more life-size distances, 3-10 metres... And I hardly ever encounter wind induced subject movement in my photography... oh, maybe drunk people sometimes ;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl ostro to wymys burujw - HCB
RE: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Two deep breaths, exhale, hold, shoot? Don -Original Message- From: alkos [mailto:alkos]On Behalf Of alkos Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing using so-called sniper breath technique... -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On 29/11/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I let you in on my little secret, Boris, I shot at least 20 images of gulls in flight that afternoon. This was the only sharp one I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Sigma 2.8/18-50 DC first impressions
Hi, As I promised, I will write some first impressions of this lens. Later, when time permits, I might post few crops from the sample I tried. Keep in mind that this is preliminary, based on just quick'n'dirty evaluation of just few test photographs. Real review would be based on using the lens to actually photograph some more real world subjects than a backyard scene from the balcony of the photographic shop (although the scene was varied nicely in contrast and detail). Long end - good overall, low vignetting, slight coma in the outer zones. Contrast is good. Overall, the lens is very respectable at 50mm and 2.8 aperture. Best performance is at f/8, but even at f/4 you would be hard pressed to find faults and 5.6 is almost indistinguishable from f/8. I couldn't see any big chromatic aberration which was a plus. Wide end - quite visible coma in 2/3 and outer zones of the reduced frame plus overall veil make the image soft at full aperture (although not nearly as much as Sigma's previous 1.8/20mm lens was at 1.8). Coma is decreased somewhat at f/4, and virtually gone by 5.6. Veiling is virtually gone by f/4. No big visible chromatic aberration! Vignetting is severe at 2.8, slight but still somewhat noticeable at f/4 and virtually gone by 5.6. Overall, wide open the performance is just acceptable (but I have seen worse). Once stopped to f/4 it gets much better, with 5.6 and 8 being both very good. Finer details of the lens (tonality, boke', et cetera) would require having it for much longer. I am still somewhat at a loss about the wide end wide open pictures. Some of them looked good, and some looked bad. Will have to try it more. For the money, it doesn't seem as a bad lens at all, with good wide open performance for portraits but questionable wide open 18mm end. The inevitable comparison would be to 16-40 Pentax. Which I don't have ;-). The 1 stop gain is real (unlike some older Sigma lenses like the EX 1.8/20mm which had true T/stop around 2.2-2.3 and were unusable until 2.80), and usable at the long end, but at the wide end, for good performance you have to stop down to f/4 anyway... Frantisek
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Don Sanderson, at T=2236.51 : Two deep breaths, exhale, hold, shoot? Basically, non-stop-controlled-slow-and-equal breathing and shooting only at full inhale/exhale (without holding!) Something more like joga than military training ;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl ostro to wymys burujw - HCB
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On Nov 29, 2004, at 11:36 PM, Cotty wrote: I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Sylwester Pietrzyk, at T=2250.22 : Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P ROTLFMAO Nie moge, to mnie juz zupelnie rozlozylo na koniec dnia;) -- alkos.atspace.com alkos at tlen pl
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On 29/11/04, alkos, discombobulated, unleashed: Sylwester Pietrzyk, at T=2250.22 : Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. But could Darth VadeR be VRong? :-P ROTLFMAO Nie moge, to mnie juz zupelnie rozlozylo na koniec dnia;) Oh for heaven's sake another Pole. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
It maybe a stupid bird, but I'd say you've nailed the image. Well done. Great light to boot! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: PESO - Coming in for a landing Gear down, full flaps, nose into the wind http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=1pos=7 yes, it's another stupid bird. Pentax *ist D, 300mm Sigma APO, 2x Sigma EX TC, hand held ISO 200 f5.6 1/800. Full frame just resized and save for web comments welcomed and appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)
A good old rule of thumb says for 900mm you'll need at least 1/900 sec. (for 35mm film). I guess this applies for APS format if you muliply by the crop factor of 1.5? I can hand hold 300mm F4 lens, but actually - I'd rather use a monopod or a tripod. When I use my M* 4/300mm + an F 1.7 AF Adapter I get 510mm - on the *ist D this equals 765mm. I know I could NEVER hand hold this - I even have to use the timer to get shots like that sharp at 1/100 sec. on a sturdy tripod! I do think Robs shots are quite impressive! 340mm and 1/800 sec. can produce a not shaken image on the APS-C sized sensor (The Rule of Thumb would say at least 200 x 1.7 x 1.5 = that is 1/510sec. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 29. november 2004 23:44 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing) On 29 Nov 2004 at 23:01, Boris Liberman wrote: 300x2x1.5 = 900 mm of focal length. So you can handhold this... Do tell me how. I cannot handhold F 70-210 at 210 mm and 1/250 sec - the shake is evident... I know, I know - I haven't been drinking coffee ever since that post. And I drink just few cups of tea every day. Hi Boris, I'm not speaking for Christian but I think that you will find that practice helps a lot and from my experience after you have got good hand holding techniques well practised focus will be your worst enemy. I was shooting a lot over the weekend with my FA200/2.8 and 1.7TC on the *ist D always hand held and there were very few images which were ruined by camera shake particularly those shot at 1/800th or faster. The following shot was made using the lens combo above at a shutter speed of 1/800 @ f7.1 ISO200 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884.jpg FF shot scaled to 25% http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP8884crop.jpg 100% crop Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
Cotty wrote on 11/29/2004, 5:36 PM: I reckon it would be very easy indeed for me to tempt you to the Dark Side, Luke. After all, it IS your destiny. (Best whinging Mark Hammilesk voice): NOO! I'll never join you! well, ok if I had unlimited funds, perhaps 1DII with 600mm F4 IS USM lens.. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Digicam for Sis Niece
This may be blasphemy on a Pentax discussion list, but I have an older Fuji (FinePix 2650) point and shoot digital, and I'd suggest ya take a look at what they currently offer. I don't know what the fstop range of it is, but it's got a 3x zoom (probably 35ish-105ish), and all the features you mentioned except the video output... I believe newer ones have this. I think you could find something that meets your requirements for $100-$150. The only thing I dislike about Fuji is their use of xD picture cards... they're a bit more expensive than other formats. I haven't bought one yet, I still haven't used the digital enough at once to exceed the 16mb card it came with. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT - Digital Street Shooters Might Like This
Epson RD-1 review on Luminous Landscape... http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/epson-rd1.shtml VERY interesting. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Hand holding long lenses (Was PESO - Coming in for a landing)
On 29 Nov 2004 at 17:02, Christian wrote: Not even a ballpark comparison, Mr. Studdert! Your subject(s) wasn't in motion (in three dimensions, I might add!)! :-) A similar part of each of their anatomies was in full motion however for the most part I'll have to agree, I do have some pretty damn sharp shots of race horses at full gallop though :-) PS: I was wondering what the 100% crop would be. you disappoint me, Mr. Studdert. Oh you wanted to see the ear-rings? :-P On 29 Nov 2004 at 16:32, Don Sanderson wrote: Show off! I was wondering there what you'd choose as your crop. ;-/ (Do all the women in Australia have that many freckles?) Don (Freckle Lover) Trying to keep my posts offensive to few :-) Those of us who are of anglo-irish decent sure do have em, the sun isn't kind to us, I don't think it's restricted to women :-) Cheers, On 30 Nov 2004 at 0:02, Jens Bladt wrote: A good old rule of thumb says for 900mm you'll need at least 1/900 sec. (for 35mm film). I guess this applies for APS format if you muliply by the crop factor of 1.5? Hi Jens, Yes I think to make all things equal you have to consider the crop factor since the image will need to be magnified in order to achieve the same print size for the same lens on a 35mm body. I can hand hold 300mm F4 lens, but actually - I'd rather use a monopod or a tripod. When I use my M* 4/300mm + an F 1.7 AF Adapter I get 510mm - on the *ist D this equals 765mm. I know I could NEVER hand hold this - I even have to use the timer to get shots like that sharp at 1/100 sec. on a sturdy tripod! I would have a go but the problem is that I'd be wanting to stop the lens down to at least f5.6 to obtain reasonable optical sharpness so you could only use it in really good light, fortunately something we have an abundance of here. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
PAW: A Shore shot
Please check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html PZ1-P, 70-210mm F, Velvia @ 50. Comment: Yea, Nay or otherwise. Thanks in advance for looking commenting. Kenneth Waller
What's a Street Shooter (was Digital Street Shooters Might Like This)
OK, Cotty, would you, or someone, please define what a street shooter is? Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/29/2004 3:35:43 PM Subject: OT - Digital Street Shooters Might Like This Epson RD-1 review on Luminous Landscape... http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/epson-rd1.shtml VERY interesting. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
