AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread David Oswald
I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives 
me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would 
like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range 
would be helpful.

Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's 
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes. 
 And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features, 
I'm kind of torn.

Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of 
each?

Dave


Re: 4GB Microdrive Hitachi 3K4

2005-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 18, 2005, at 7:25 AM, David Zaninovic wrote:
Does anybody have any experience with this Microdrive ?  Will it work 
in D ?
How do you transfer files to PC ?  Can you connect it somehow to a PC 
as normal ATA disk ?
AFAIK you can get Compact Flash to IDE adaptors.  But it's probably 
easier to use a USB2 or FireWire memory card reader.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Not realy a PAW

2005-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 18, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=170728
Trying the Sigma lens I enabled myself with...
I wish my desk was that tidy.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re[2]: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Alin Flaider

  Currently there is no 8 MP APS CCD available from Sony, Sanyo, etc.
  Except for the Nikon one implemented in the D2X there is no 12 MP
  either. As Pentax has a history of using old and proved technology
  :oT I expect we'll see a D upgrade only after the D90 or whatever
  hits the market.

  Servus,  Alin

John wrote:

JF As best as I can tell we won't see anything like a D+ anytime soon.
JF The next DSLR from Pentax will almost certainly be a lower-end model,
JF going for a lower ($600?) price-point.

JF Supposedly there is a follow-on to the D in the pipeline, but I don't
JF expect to see it in 6 months.  In fact unless it's announced at PMA
JF I'd say that was just about certain - it took around six months for
JF the *ist-D to hit the shelves after it was announced.




















Re: More Damn Flower Pictures (MDFP?)

2005-02-18 Thread David Mann
On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:22 PM, William Robb wrote:
Check this:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/istD_bellows.html
I was expecting to see the *istD attached to your 6x7 bellows.
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: OT - Anti is Upped

2005-02-18 Thread Frantisek
Friday, February 18, 2005, 3:18:33 AM, J. wrote:
JCOC I guess next time I WILL STATE THE OBVIOUS.

but please don't SHOUT when doing it.



Good light!
   fra



Re: OT - Anti is Upped

2005-02-18 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
Wow! A new, improved DSLR from Canon! I'm impressed... it have all the
features I ever need, 8MP, buttons - a lot of them!, USM, IS - I can't
think how a lousy 6MP DSLR (like the *istDS) could compete. It's time
to jump to Canon.
Who cares about the batteries, anyway? 200-300 frames/charge is more
than enough. And what about the viewfinder - even smaller than that
300D crap? AF rulz, the camera know where to focus better than me
grin

Oh, boy... I'm glad I didn't choosed Canon. IMHO, the 350D is a
*downgrade* from the 300D.

Alex Sarbu



Re: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
BH is still bundling a new D with the DA 16-45 for $1599. This used to 
be accompanied by a $200 rebate. I'm not sure if that rebate is still 
in effect. BTW, I finally got my rebate check from Pentax this week. 
Took about six months and one letter of complaint.
Paul
On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:14 PM, John Francis wrote:

Sid Barras mused:
Hey Gang,
But I'm wondering, what's the scuttlebutt on a new pentax digital to
update/replace the *istD?
I've not seen anything on the list lately that looked like rumors of
new models from Paal or the other insiders, so
Whaddya hear guys? Should I go for a very-late-in-the-model-life
*istD?
Or is the *istDS gonna have a replacement first?
My hunch is if I ca hold out 6 more months, Pentax will have a C*
competitor that will have specs similar to their 8 mega pixel model. 
Or
maybe it would be even better.

But if the consensus among the knowledgeable brethren is that Pentax
will stand (and not deliver), then I will take my refund check and buy
a *ist D or a *istDS sooner rather than later.
As best as I can tell we won't see anything like a D+ anytime soon.
The next DSLR from Pentax will almost certainly be a lower-end model,
going for a lower ($600?) price-point.
Supposedly there is a follow-on to the D in the pipeline, but I don't
expect to see it in 6 months.  In fact unless it's announced at PMA
I'd say that was just about certain - it took around six months for
the *ist-D to hit the shelves after it was announced.
I'd suggest you go for a D or a DS now.  Which you buy depends on
how you rate the differences between the two models.  The DS has a
much-improved rear 4-way controller, a larger LCD screen, a larger
buffer, and USB 2.0  The D has separate thumbwheels for aperture
and shutter speed (thus allowing HyperProgram mode, and easier
full manual operation), and an optional vertical/battery grip.
If you can find one you can get a new D for very little more
(and in some places slightly less!) than a new DS.  That option
is especially tempting if you want the DA 16-45; I think you can
still find the bundle of that lens plus a D for a good price.
(Even if yoy don't want the lens, you might well find somebody on
the list interested in splitting the bundle discount with you :-)



Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL, high speed 
synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit more pop 
than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one just the 
other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF 500 DG ST, 
which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not as well 
made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a lot of 
things, but it's decent.

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it 
gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I 
would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more 
range would be helpful.

Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's 
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer 
flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features, 
I'm kind of torn.

Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of 
each?

Dave



Re: More Damn Flower Pictures (MDFP?)

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Mark Roberts 

What are you using for a macro rig?
 
 ist-D and SMC-F 100/2.8 Macro

Check this:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/istD_bellows.html

Ah yes, I'm going to have to get one of those.
Not for a while, though. I've blown my photo budget for the year: Tamron
17-35 zoom, Sigma EF500 DG Super flash and Gitzo carbon fiber tripod.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  No, I am not buying one. But they still have that Pentax-A
24mm
  f/2.8 with the perfect glass on the shelf... 
 
 It's nice on film, and nicer on the istD.

You're NOT helping. ;-)

It's *really* nice on an MZ-S!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Not realy a PAW

2005-02-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: David Mann 
Subject: Re: Not realy a PAW


I wish my desk was that tidy.
I tried to find my desk the other day.
I know it's under my computer someplace.
William Robb


Re: Not realy a PAW

2005-02-18 Thread David S
My desk is as tidy as that.

I just can't find a damn thing in any of the draws ;-)

Dave S
(Very good at moving junk from one place to another)


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:15:37 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Mann
 Subject: Re: Not realy a PAW
 
 
  I wish my desk was that tidy.
 
 I tried to find my desk the other day.
 I know it's under my computer someplace.
 
 William Robb
 




Re: M42 adaptor

2005-02-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

This comment is not designed to add useful discourse.

Mark!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Feb 2005 at 21:59, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   No, I am not buying one. But they still have that Pentax-A
 24mm
   f/2.8 with the perfect glass on the shelf... 
  
  It's nice on film, and nicer on the istD.
 
 You're NOT helping. ;-)

Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the FA24/2 (except at f2 
and in AF mode :-)

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: St. Valentine's Day Massacre (small gallery)

2005-02-18 Thread Cotty


 http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=473262

Great work Frank.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh!!!

2005-02-18 Thread brooksdj
 black is opposite to white.
 
 Herb...
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:38 PM
 Subject: Aaaarrrgggh!!!
 
 
 I thought that March PUG was Black and White.

Very true, Herb.

Now my entry won't seem so bad then.vbg

Dave




RE: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Paul Stenquist wrote:

 BH is still bundling a new D with the DA 16-45 for $1599. 
 This used to be accompanied by a $200 rebate. I'm not sure if 
 that rebate is still in effect. BTW, I finally got my rebate 
 check from Pentax this week. 
 Took about six months and one letter of complaint.

I've bought a couple of items with money back promises which I have
eventually got back, but not until I have lost my temper in the shops
concerned. Unless the deal is the bottom figure there, on the day, when it
is ordered/collected I won't bite. I'm getting too old for all this sort of
hassle now. The istD I have just got was great news to the wallet on the day
and that I can live with. Enablement *should* be a fun thing.

Malcolm




Re: *ist-Ds price drop

2005-02-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
I would have thought that Oly, Fuji, and Sigma would account for many of
those. although Pentax probably has the biggest piece of the remaining
pie.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/17/2005 7:02:01 PM 
FWIW, CIPA says that Japanese manufactures build about 2.5M DSLRs in
2004. 
Canon formally announced production of 1.3M in 2004. best guess for
Nikon is 
700-800K. that leaves between 300K and 400K units for everyone else 
combined. i believe, with no proof, that Pentax accounts for most of
the 
remainder. Canon  also said that they will announce 3 new DSLRs this
year. 
we have seen one already in the D-Rebel XT. i don't know if i would
call the 
20Da a new DSLR or not. no matter how you count things though, that
means at 
least one more DSLR announcement this year from Canon.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: *ist-Ds price drop


 The *ist-Ds isn't really that old--it's only been shipping for, what,

 three months?  The *ist-D starting shipping in the summer of 2003 and
went 
 out of production at the end of 2004.  I would expect that Pentax is

 planning to ship the *ist-Ds for a total of at least 12 months and
maybe 
 18.  At $725 vs $780 for the current D-Rebel and ~$900 for the 
 just-announced D-Rebel XT, it looks like a pretty good deal.




FA 50/1.4 in stock at BH

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
I've coveted an FA 50/1.4 for quite a while, but the samples on ebay were going 
for $200 plus. I had it on backorder at BH. Just this morning they told me 
it's in stock. $209.95 for a brand new one. My order is already in. Their 
message and the link appears below.
Paul


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Re: 4GB Microdrive Hitachi 3K4

2005-02-18 Thread David Zaninovic
I ordered Kingston standard 1GB for $50, I figured out that I don't want to 
have more than 1GB in one card as that is around 78
raw exposures.  I don't want to lose more than that if it dies.  I also checked 
the read speed of that card and it is not that bad,
better than sandisk standard ones.  I am shooting jpg now as I don't have the 
space but I want to move to raw, it must be better, at
least it is not losing any data. :)

- Original Message - 
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: 4GB Microdrive Hitachi 3K4


 On Feb 18, 2005, at 7:25 AM, David Zaninovic wrote:

  Does anybody have any experience with this Microdrive ?  Will it work
  in D ?
  How do you transfer files to PC ?  Can you connect it somehow to a PC
  as normal ATA disk ?

 AFAIK you can get Compact Flash to IDE adaptors.  But it's probably
 easier to use a USB2 or FireWire memory card reader.

 Cheers,

 - Dave

 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
Jostein, we care, we care...
Jostein wrote:
Dunno if anyone cares,but...:-)
Will be back in 10 days' time.
See you guys.
Cheers,
Jostein


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Re: Re: PESO - Big Dress Day

2005-02-18 Thread m.9.wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/02/18 Fri AM 02:21:07 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO - Big Dress Day
 
 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:39:02 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3407/display/2615833
  
  A friend's wedding.
  
 
 Nice capture.  Pretty girl, nice smile, looking as uncomfortable in
 those clothes as any normal person should.

Thanks.  It was rather difficult as everyone (and there were a lot of people) 
seemd to have an innate ability to turn their back to a camera without even 
knowing where it was.

The girl is the bride's sister.  Called Lubamira, or lover of peace.

mike

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Re: FA 50/1.4 in stock at BH

2005-02-18 Thread John Bailey
Congratulations!  Perfect to cheer up the gloom of
February.

John.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've coveted an FA 50/1.4 for quite a while, but the
 samples on ebay were going for $200 plus. I had it
 on backorder at BH. Just this morning they told me
 it's in stock. $209.95 for a brand new one. My order
 is already in. Their message and the link appears
 below.
 Paul




FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Lindamood, Mark
Ha!  BH probably saw that those very nice lenses were going for as much as 
$255 on ebay and decided there was life in Pentax yet!   I just got a pristine 
FA50 1.4 bundled with a clean ZX-5n on ebay for $300 and feel it was a good 
deal.  

It might be true, though, that the FA primes will turn out to be Pentax's last 
great glass and at some point you just won't be able to get them anymore.  




Re: Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh!!!

2005-02-18 Thread John Bailey
Frank,

Black is opposite of White.

John.
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought that March PUG was Black and White.
 
 I have a fresh print being done up for tomorrow for
 the occasion.
 
 Now I see that it's actually Opposites.  H... 
 What to do now?  



RE: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
OK Paul,

 The delay wasn't the vendor's fault. It was a Pentax rebate. 
 Based on other comments here, I would say that they are 
 usually very pokey when it comes to sending the rebate.

Fair enough, but voucher/rebate/whatever schemes just seem a bizarre way of
getting to the bottom line. However the vendor and manufacturer want to
shuffle the paperwork is fine, but just leave me the bottom line. 15 or so
years ago I bought an HF radio that bought within a certain period, came
with a free VHF radio. I bought within the period and expected the dealer to
give me one of the VHF radios stacked behind him. But no. I had to have a
form stamped by him and then send off this with a receipt for the radio to
another address (by recorded delivery in case of loss) and wait about three
weeks for another voucher to be sent back. This I then took back to the
dealer who then handed me the radio he could have done weeks earlier. Giving
me the item (or rebate) at time of sale would have left me feeling good. I
won't comment on how I felt about the above.

Anyway, glad you have got the rebate.

Malcolm 




RE: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
The delay wasn't the vendor's fault. It was a Pentax rebate. Based on other 
comments here, I would say that they are usually very pokey when it comes to 
sending the rebate.
Paul


 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
  BH is still bundling a new D with the DA 16-45 for $1599. 
  This used to be accompanied by a $200 rebate. I'm not sure if 
  that rebate is still in effect. BTW, I finally got my rebate 
  check from Pentax this week. 
  Took about six months and one letter of complaint.
 
 I've bought a couple of items with money back promises which I have
 eventually got back, but not until I have lost my temper in the shops
 concerned. Unless the deal is the bottom figure there, on the day, when it
 is ordered/collected I won't bite. I'm getting too old for all this sort of
 hassle now. The istD I have just got was great news to the wallet on the day
 and that I can live with. Enablement *should* be a fun thing.
 
 Malcolm
 
 



FS: Pentax SMC-M 40mm f/2.8 pancake lens

2005-02-18 Thread Joe Wilensky
For sale:
A very nice example of the Pentax SMC-M 40mm f/2.8, the pancake lens! 
EX condition. Exterior shows very minor wear at edges of aperture 
ring. Glass is nice, especially since I had it cleaned last year to 
remove some dust. Front and rear caps included.

$125 includes shipping in the continental U.S.
Last two photos below show it mounted on a Super Program for effect.
http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Pancake_front.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Pancake_side.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Pancake_mounted.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/wilensky/eBay/Pancake_mounted_side.jpg
Joe
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Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
That was a good deal. I saw it, and I was going to bid, but I was in transit 
when the auction ended. Good think I missed it. We would have bid it up.
Paul


 Ha!  BH probably saw that those very nice lenses were going for as much as 
 $255 
 on ebay and decided there was life in Pentax yet!   I just got a pristine 
 FA50 
 1.4 bundled with a clean ZX-5n on ebay for $300 and feel it was a good deal.  
 
 It might be true, though, that the FA primes will turn out to be Pentax's 
 last 
 great glass and at some point you just won't be able to get them anymore.  
 
 



Re: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
If they are like most other companies they probably hired a fulfillment 
house to handle it for them.  These places are usually run on a very 
tight budget and the only way for them to make a profit is to run as 
lean as possible.  This can lead to very spotty operations.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The delay wasn't the vendor's fault. It was a Pentax rebate. Based on other 
comments here, I would say that they are usually very pokey when it comes to 
sending the rebate.
Paul
 

Paul Stenquist wrote:
   

BH is still bundling a new D with the DA 16-45 for $1599. 
This used to be accompanied by a $200 rebate. I'm not sure if 
that rebate is still in effect. BTW, I finally got my rebate 
check from Pentax this week. 
Took about six months and one letter of complaint.
 

I've bought a couple of items with money back promises which I have
eventually got back, but not until I have lost my temper in the shops
concerned. Unless the deal is the bottom figure there, on the day, when it
is ordered/collected I won't bite. I'm getting too old for all this sort of
hassle now. The istD I have just got was great news to the wallet on the day
and that I can live with. Enablement *should* be a fun thing.
Malcolm
   


 


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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: PESO - Big Dress Day

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/02/18 Fri AM 02:21:07 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Big Dress Day
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:39:02 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3407/display/2615833
A friend's wedding.
 

Nice capture.  Pretty girl, nice smile, looking as uncomfortable in
those clothes as any normal person should.
   

Thanks.  It was rather difficult as everyone (and there were a lot of 
people) seemd to have an innate ability to turn their back to a camera without 
even knowing where it was.
The girl is the bride's sister.  Called Lubamira, or lover of peace.
 

Beautiful sentiment, but her parents should be severely disciplined for 
saddling her with it.  Just pronouncing it causes me to have visions of 
large hairy lipped Eastern European women...

mike
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RE: *istDS - $729 at Adorama (BTW)

2005-02-18 Thread Jens Bladt
That's 20USD below an MZ-S, which sells for 749!
Jens

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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Sid Barras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. februar 2005 04:27
Til: Pentax discussion list Pentax discussion
Emne: *istDS - $729 at Adorama (BTW)


Checked the price today--
I always have had excellent success with Adorama.

Greetings from CajunLand USA South Louisiana
Sid Barras




Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread wendy beard
 --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 
 Anyway, while there I spied the Pentax MZ-S on the
 shelf and
 asked to see it. Now why did I never notice this
 camera when I
 was still shooting film? What a beauty! Nicely
 balanced,
 wonderful feel, etc etc. It must have come out right
 when I was
 moving to all-digital cameras, truly poor timing. 
 

Gorgeous, isn't it. The overriding reason why I didn't
sell mine. It's a beauty to use too. I took mine out
last Sunday with a roll of BW in it. Of course I
can't show you the results yet :-)
After the clunk of the 20D, the hamster-sneeze of the
MZ-S sounds quite strange now.

Wendy



Re: Thanks for Wireless flash investigations

2005-02-18 Thread Andre Langevin
Thanks also Arnie for sharing your experience.  With respect to 
controlling the 1/1, 1/2, 2/3, 1/3 output ratio between the 
built-in flash and the off-camera 360 as described by the 360's 
manual, I do not think it will work between the two off-camera 
360's.  That is, setting one 360 to 1/3 and the other 360 to 2/3 
will not give you a 1/3 - 2/3 ratio between the two off-camera 
flashes.  Both off-camera flashes might be set identically to 1/3 
or 2/3 to yield a collective 3 against the built-in flash's 1 or 2, 
but there is no way for the camera to know that you have two 
wireless 360's out there(unless I'm mistaken).  The two off-camera 
flashes operate as if only one were there, as far as I can guess.
I tried it with two 360ftz as slaves (Wireless and P-TTL) and the 
built-in flash as the controller, setting one 360 at 1/3 and the 
other one at 2/3, and it worked!  I scraped my test pictures but can 
easily reproduce the results.
I just tried to reproduce the results in a more controlled way than 
the last (and first) time and I could not see a difference between 
1/3 and 2/3.  I guess my previous setting was not stable enough.  I 
was replacing the flashes approximatively at the same place after 
changing their settings and my subject was tricky: a pale spruce top 
of a musical instrument with light stricking at a low angle.

Sorry for the false expectations.
I now understand that the ratio can only be between the master and 
the slave (or slaves as a group) as Mark had understood.

There still are two way to influence the respective output of the 2 
slave flashes: their distance from the suject and neutral density 
filter (or gel) over one flash.

Andre


Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

2005-02-18 Thread Andre Langevin
Arnie, I just did another test in a controlled way and could not get 
the 2 slave flashes to give different outputs.  They are taken as a 
whole and the ratio you set on the slave flashes is between the 
slaves and the the master, be it the built-in flash or an other 360.

You need to use distance to vary the respective output of the slaves. 
Or cut the output of one slave by covering its window with a neutral 
density gel, or a kleenex.

Andre
yes, thats what i'm talking about. i you could get that information 
for me i'd really appreciate it.

thanks
arnie
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

Hi Arnie.  You can change the ratio between the 2 flashes, like 1/3 
for one and 2/3 for the second one.  Is this what you mean?  If so, 
I'll check in the manual to see how to do it.  I've done it once 
and it was effective.

Andre
Jack, it works great when I do that. Just I would like to be able 
to control them a bit.

arnie
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash
Arnie,
I think I'd allow the two 360's to do their own
exposure balancing by setting both on TTL.
Jack
--- arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use two 360, both triggered wirelessly from the
built in flash. I still
cant figure out how to manually control the exposure
of each, but it works
quite well automatically.
- Original Message - From: Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash
 Is it possible to work two (or more) 360's
wireless triggered by the
 built-in flash?  Has anyone tried this?




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RE: *istDS - $729 at Adorama (BTW)

2005-02-18 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The price drops are great, but I don't want
a cheaper DSLR from pentax , I want a better
one at previous prices. FF and higher resolution please, doesn't
have to be under $1000. Full K/M compatabiliy would
be nice too!
JCO

-Original Message-
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: *istDS - $729 at Adorama (BTW)


That's 20USD below an MZ-S, which sells for 749!
Jens

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Fra: Sid Barras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. februar 2005 04:27
Til: Pentax discussion list Pentax discussion
Emne: *istDS - $729 at Adorama (BTW)


Checked the price today--
I always have had excellent success with Adorama.

Greetings from CajunLand USA South Louisiana
Sid Barras




Re: PESO - Big Dress Day

2005-02-18 Thread mike wilson
Peter J. Alling wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/02/18 Fri AM 02:21:07 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Big Dress Day
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:39:02 +, mike wilson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3407/display/2615833
A friend's wedding.

Nice capture.  Pretty girl, nice smile, looking as uncomfortable in
those clothes as any normal person should.
  

Thanks.  It was rather difficult as everyone (and there were a lot of 
people) seemd to have an innate ability to turn their back to a camera 
without even knowing where it was.

The girl is the bride's sister.  Called Lubamira, or lover of peace.
 

Beautiful sentiment, but her parents should be severely disciplined for 
saddling her with it.  Just pronouncing it causes me to have visions of 
large hairy lipped Eastern European women...
I have a similar problem when I hear Wilma or Bernice.


Re: OT - Ante is Upped

2005-02-18 Thread Takehiko Ueda
Hi Shel and all,

Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Any idea of a price point on this puppy?
 
 Shel 

In Japan, the street price is expected as follows;
EOS Kiss Digital N Body: under JPY100K
Body with EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 II USM: under JPY120K
Body with EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 II USM and EF55-200mm
F4.5-5.6 II USM: around JPY143K

US$ stands at JPY105, which makes US$952, US$1,142, and
US$1,361 respectively.

FYI, I bought my *ist-DS with DA 18mm-55mmF3.5-5.6AL for
JPY110K, which makes US$1,047.  Some shop sells DS lens
kit for JPY93K, which is US$887.

Still, DS seems competitive as to its price.

Sincerely,


Takehiko Ueda
OSA, JPN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

2005-02-18 Thread Andre Langevin
  Guys,
  Slight change of discussion course:
  I mainly do the wireless outdoors and I found there are many
  instances when the slave fails to sense the master trigger flash and
  doesn't light at all. I've been working with the 360FGZ placed at 2-3
  meters away from the camera and at an angle of around 45 degrees
  from the optical axis. It seems the sensor on the front of the flash
  needs more direct orientation towards the master in order for the
  flashes communication to take place. Indoors the light bouncing from
  the walls is significant enough for the flash orientation to matter
  less, but outdoors it appears the wireless range and usability is
  drastically limited.
  So what is the maximum distance and flash angle you found effective
  in various circumstances? Any tricks to make the flash sensor more
  responsive? Thanks.
  Servus,  Alin
Have you tried taping a small white cardoard piece on the slave's 
side, (to reflect the controller's information)?

Andre


Re: OT - Ante is Upped

2005-02-18 Thread John Francis
Takehiko Ueda mused:
 
 Hi Shel and all,
 
 Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Any idea of a price point on this puppy?
  
  Shel 
 
 In Japan, the street price is expected as follows;
 EOS Kiss Digital N Body: under JPY100K
 Body with EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 II USM: under JPY120K
 Body with EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 II USM and EF55-200mm
 F4.5-5.6 II USM: around JPY143K
 
 US$ stands at JPY105, which makes US$952, US$1,142, and
 US$1,361 respectively.

For some odd reason, though, Canon only seem to offer the
USM lenses as a kit lens in Japan; the US kits come with
a (noticeably cheaper) non-USM lens.



Re: M42 adaptor

2005-02-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty 
Subject: Re: M42 adaptor


On 17/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
This comment is not designed to add useful discourse.
Mark!
Who is Mark?
b...


Re: PESO - Big Dress Day

2005-02-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson
Subject: Re: PESO - Big Dress Day


The girl is the bride's sister.  Called Lubamira, or lover of 
peace.

Beautiful sentiment, but her parents should be severely 
disciplined for saddling her with it.  Just pronouncing it causes 
me to have visions of large hairy lipped Eastern European women...
She could diminuize her name to Uba (pronounce it Oooohbah).
Has a bit of a Scandihoovian lilt to it.
William Robb 




Photostitch or PTGui?

2005-02-18 Thread Albano Garcia

Hi gang,
Somebody knows wher I can download Photostitch
software?
Regards


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Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Joe Wilensky
What about the FA 35mm f/2? BH had it listed as backordered, and now 
it's just listed as out of stock. Adorama has it on backorder. 
There's no DA replacement for this scheduled yet, is there? Or are 
they shifting production of this lens to the guy in Vietnam?

An FA 35mm f/2 in nearly new condition just sold on eBay for $310, 
which is $10 more than the lens sells for new (at least when it's in 
stock). The FA primes are definitely in demand (and the 35 f/2 makes 
for one nice fast standard lens on the *ist D  Ds).

Joe

That was a good deal. I saw it, and I was going to bid, but I was in 
transit when the auction ended. Good think I missed it. We would 
have bid it up.
Paul


 Ha!  BH probably saw that those very nice lenses were going for 
as much as $255
 on ebay and decided there was life in Pentax yet!   I just got a 
pristine FA50
 1.4 bundled with a clean ZX-5n on ebay for $300 and feel it was a 
good deal. 

 It might be true, though, that the FA primes will turn out to be 
Pentax's last
 great glass and at some point you just won't be able to get them anymore. 





Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Nick Clark
It's a great lens - my standard on the *istD.

That hasn't helped either has it!

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18/02/05 05:59:17
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.netpentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: addiction... 

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  No, I am not buying one. But they still have that Pentax-A
24mm
  f/2.8 with the perfect glass on the shelf... 
 
 It's nice on film, and nicer on the istD.

You're NOT helping. ;-)

Godfrey



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Re: *istDS built-in flash overexposure problem

2005-02-18 Thread Nick Clark
I can't use the AF360FGZ on the *istD to take pictures of my wife as the 
preflash causes her to blink and then her eyes are shut for the main exposure. 
I wish you could force it into TTL mode sometimes.

Don't recall it being a problem on the MZ-S, but then the results aren't 
visible quite so quickly. Perhaps the mirror is faster.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Frantisek[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18/02/05 00:30:23
 Of course the problem depends on how fast
the DSLR can swing the mirror (as the flash metering is done before
the mirror rises), so a superfast mirror-swinging machine would be
almost fine probably. But even on this list, I heard issues about
using preexposure flash metering for candid portraits.

Good light!
   fra





FS Friday: A few small items

2005-02-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
As I clean out closets and drawers, I'm finding all sorts of odds and ends.
Here are a few from last night's foray into the depths of a closet.  Pics
and details available.  Please contact me off list.

52mm Nikon metal lens hood.  Perfect for K or A 50mmm f1.2 lens;

Optex Lenspen (a good way to clean the dirt and smudges from you lenses),
new;

Microfiber cleaning cloth, great for cleaning lenses, filters, LCD
displays, new;

67mm Hoya HMC Super Skylight Filter (perfect cond);

Asahi Pentax 105mm F2.8 Super Tak lens, original FR caps, like new;

Film Extractor (removes film that has been rewound into cassette), like new;

Rare reusable Asahi Pentax film cassette, all metal, perfect in every way;

PK rear lens cap for M42 lenses, new;

Kodak Carousel slide tray, perfect condition;


Shel 




Re: Photostitch or PTGui?

2005-02-18 Thread John Whittingham
Do you mean the free version, came with Canon cameras? 

John



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Sent: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:34:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Photostitch or PTGui?

 Hi gang,
 Somebody knows wher I can download Photostitch
 software?
 Regards
 
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 Photography  Graphic Design
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OT - A good week, enablement wise...

2005-02-18 Thread Fred Widall
Had a good week this week. I got the following:

1) PD7X portable storage device with 40Gb drive
2) Pentax-M 50mm F1.7 (CAD$22 !!!). Works great on *istDS
3) Screwmount reverse adapter. For more snowflake experiments.
4) Lowepro Omni Traveler bag.
5) Booked my summer vacation. 'Grand Tour of Egypt' with Globus tours.
   Leaving mid-July. Hence the PD7X, new bag and Pentax-M 50mm F1.7,
   which should be real handy in the museums where flash is not
   permitted. At least I have five months to try and decide what
   gear to take. The Omni Traveler isn't a huge bag so it will
   force me to not try and take everything - which is a good thing VBG.
--
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 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You're all evil. I was up there on an errand again this morning
and stopped back into the store. They threw in a used Nikon HN-1
metal lens hood and several used Pentax back caps as extras,
dropped the price $50. I took it. 

Sheesh, I own too many Pentax lenses now. 

Godfrey

--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the
 FA24/2 (except at f2 and in AF mode :-)


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Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ... Pentax MZ-S ...
 
 Gorgeous, isn't it. The overriding reason why I didn't
 sell mine. It's a beauty to use too. I took mine out
 last Sunday with a roll of BW in it. Of course I
 can't show you the results yet :-)
 After the clunk of the 20D, the hamster-sneeze of the
 MZ-S sounds quite strange now.

Happily or unhappily, I don't have an infinite amount of money
to spend on something I'll likely get no use out of, or I'd have
bought the bloody thing. It really is a beauty. 

Addiction to nice camera bits is a terrible thing... :-)

Godfrey



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Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
ah ha, so you're the one who nabbed that auction from me. ;-)

I found a pristine, in the box F50/1.7, got it for a very
reasonable dollar. So I'm wondering whether there's any
particular rationale to ordering up a new FA50/1.4 and auction
this one off again. I also have an A50/1.4 already.

Godfrey

--- Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ha!  BH probably saw that those very nice lenses were going
 for as much as $255 on ebay and decided there was life in
 Pentax yet!   I just got a pristine FA50 1.4 bundled with a
 clean ZX-5n on ebay for $300 and feel it was a good deal.  
 
 It might be true, though, that the FA primes will turn out to
 be Pentax's last great glass and at some point you just won't
 be able to get them anymore.  
 
 
 



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Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
have one flash that did everything the body could support.

Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
compare them. 

I think I might have asked this one time prior, but my memory is
going... ;-)

Godfrey

--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL,
 high speed 
 synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit
 more pop 
 than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one
 just the 
 other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF
 500 DG ST, 
 which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not
 as well 
 made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a
 lot of 
 things, but it's decent.
 
 On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
 
  I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the
 results it 
  gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are
 times that I 
  would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a
 little more 
  range would be helpful.
 
  Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying
 one. It's 
  essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's
 nicer 
  flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200
 sometimes.
 
  But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
  compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new
 features, 
  I'm kind of torn.
 
  Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and
 pros/cons of 
  each?
 
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RE: Which flash?

2005-02-18 Thread Jens Bladt
I use the AF500FTZ, which I'vae had sincce my PZ-1 days.
It overexposes at ASA 800-3200. (It's the camera, that has a problem, not
the flash, I believe).
And it doesn't have a sesor of it's own (yes it's true), so TTL or manual
are the only options.
If you can live with using a flash only at 200-400 ASA the AF500FTZ it's
fine (who needs a flash at 800 ASA anywway).
It's a darned fine flash BTW - I believe the design was actually awarded
sometime in the past.

I have made test, that show, that all flashes (that I have used, that is
Metz or Pentax) with a red light AF assist doesn't do TTL properly,
especially above 400ASA on the *ist D.

On the other hand, I simply can't live with the RTF AF-assist light. It's a
PITA to have to turn on on off the RTF-flash (stupid feature - like a toyish
PS camera). Manual focus would actually be easier and faster. I wish the
*ist D had red laser AF assist light - like my SONY DSC F717, which worked
brilliantly!

The AF280T is fine at 200-800 ASA, but NOT at 1600-3200 ASA.

I don'tknow the 360. P-TTL is not for me. I simply hate preflash.

If I had to buy a new flash for my *ist D, I guess I'd buy a Metz. They are
usually excellent.

Jens Bladt
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Fra: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 17. februar 2005 18:19
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Which flash?


I'm considering bying a flash for my *istD. Which one is best of the 500
and the 360? It seems to me that both have functions that the other do
not. Which functions are more useful, and which functions are less
important?

Advantages of the AF 500 FTZ
  * more powerful (higher GN)
  * possible to turn in two directions
  * faster flash time
  * can be used as slave

Advantages of the AF 360 FGZ
  * P-TTL
  * wireless TTL
  * can zoom out more
  * EV compensation
  * automatic mode (does the 500 really lack this???)
  * contrast control with 4 units (2 more than the 500)
  * lighter

The 500 cost more but I can get it used at the same cost as a new 360, so
price is not (that) important.

anders
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Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

2005-02-18 Thread Andre Langevin
Arnie, I just did another test in a controlled way and could not get 
the 2 slave flashes to give different outputs.  They are taken as a 
whole and the ratio you set on the slave flashes is between the 
slaves and the the master, be it the built-in flash or another 360.

You thus need to use distance to vary the respective output of the 
slaves.  Or cut the output of one slave by covering its window with a 
neutral density gel, or a kleenex.

Andre
yes, thats what i'm talking about. i you could get that information 
for me i'd really appreciate it.

thanks
arnie
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

Hi Arnie.  You can change the ratio between the 2 flashes, like 1/3 
for one and 2/3 for the second one.  Is this what you mean?  If so, 
I'll check in the manual to see how to do it.  I've done it once 
and it was effective.

Andre
Jack, it works great when I do that. Just I would like to be able 
to control them a bit.

arnie
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash
Arnie,
I think I'd allow the two 360's to do their own
exposure balancing by setting both on TTL.
Jack
--- arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use two 360, both triggered wirelessly from the
built in flash. I still
cant figure out how to manually control the exposure
of each, but it works
quite well automatically.
- Original Message - From: Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash
 Is it possible to work two (or more) 360's
wireless triggered by the
 built-in flash?  Has anyone tried this?



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Re: Thanks for Wireless flash investigations

2005-02-18 Thread Andre Langevin
Thanks also Arnie for sharing your experience.  With respect to 
controlling the 1/1, 1/2, 2/3, 1/3 output ratio between the 
built-in flash and the off-camera 360 as described by the 360's 
manual, I do not think it will work between the two off-camera 
360's.  That is, setting one 360 to 1/3 and the other 360 to 2/3 
will not give you a 1/3 - 2/3 ratio between the two off-camera 
flashes.  Both off-camera flashes might be set identically to 1/3 
or 2/3 to yield a collective 3 against the built-in flash's 1 or 2, 
but there is no way for the camera to know that you have two 
wireless 360's out there(unless I'm mistaken).  The two off-camera 
flashes operate as if only one were there, as far as I can guess.
I tried it with two 360ftz as slaves (Wireless and P-TTL) and the 
built-in flash as the controller, setting one 360 at 1/3 and the 
other one at 2/3, and it worked!  I scraped my test pictures but can 
easily reproduce the results.
I just tried to reproduce the results in a more controlled way than 
the last (and first) time and I could not see a difference between 
1/3 and 2/3.  I guess my previous setting was not stable enough.  I 
was replacing the flashes approximatively at the same place after 
changing their settings and my subject was tricky: a pale spruce top 
of a musical instrument with light striking at a low angle.

Sorry for the false expectations.
I now understand that the ratio can only be between the master and 
the slave (or slaves as a group) as Mark had understood.

There still are two way to influence the respective output of the 2 
slave flashes: their distance from the suject and neutral density 
filter (or gel) over one flash.

Andre


Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
Bwahahahahahah..
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
You're all evil. I was up there on an errand again this morning
and stopped back into the store. They threw in a used Nikon HN-1
metal lens hood and several used Pentax back caps as extras,
dropped the price $50. I took it. 

Sheesh, I own too many Pentax lenses now. 

Godfrey
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the
FA24/2 (except at f2 and in AF mode :-)
   


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Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
There's a rational for keeping the 1.7.  The instructions that come with 
the Autobellows M states that
the M 1.7 50mm has a flatter plane of focus than the 50 f1.4.  Since all 
the 1.7's have the same basic
optical formula as all of the 1.4's as well.  You could assume that the 
1.7 would give better results on
a bellows or lens extensions.  But that's just an assumption.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
ah ha, so you're the one who nabbed that auction from me. ;-)
I found a pristine, in the box F50/1.7, got it for a very
reasonable dollar. So I'm wondering whether there's any
particular rationale to ordering up a new FA50/1.4 and auction
this one off again. I also have an A50/1.4 already.
Godfrey
--- Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Ha!  BH probably saw that those very nice lenses were going
for as much as $255 on ebay and decided there was life in
Pentax yet!   I just got a pristine FA50 1.4 bundled with a
clean ZX-5n on ebay for $300 and feel it was a good deal.  

It might be true, though, that the FA primes will turn out to
be Pentax's last great glass and at some point you just won't
be able to get them anymore.  


   


		
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RE: Which flash?

2005-02-18 Thread Jens Bladt
BTW:
I found that different flashes (I believe I have 3 Metz, 2 Pentax dedicated
TTL-falshes) handle the camera AE-programs quite differently; when
choosing aperture and speed.
I found that for the same and light conditions and the same camera settings
my AF280T may choose F2.8, my Metz 32CT choses 5.6. The AF500FTZ (which is
stronger than any of the two previously mentioned) chooses 2.8!?

I'm  just not clever enough to outsmart the flash/camera program
(Normal,Tv,Av)/settings for the Green Button, when using a flash (works in
P and M modes).

So, what I do is work in Manual mode (still allowing TTL-flash), press the
Green Button (which I'v set to go to P - or occationally to Av) and then
I perhaps choose a slightly different speed (faster) and perhaps a slightly
better aperture in order to avoid overexposure/burned out high lights. I can
easily save an image which is underexpose by up perhaps to 2 stops. Over
exposed shots are mostly beyond repair.

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 18. februar 2005 20:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Which flash?


I use the AF500FTZ, which I'vae had sincce my PZ-1 days.
It overexposes at ASA 800-3200. (It's the camera, that has a problem, not
the flash, I believe).
And it doesn't have a sesor of it's own (yes it's true), so TTL or manual
are the only options.
If you can live with using a flash only at 200-400 ASA the AF500FTZ it's
fine (who needs a flash at 800 ASA anywway).
It's a darned fine flash BTW - I believe the design was actually awarded
sometime in the past.

I have made test, that show, that all flashes (that I have used, that is
Metz or Pentax) with a red light AF assist doesn't do TTL properly,
especially above 400ASA on the *ist D.

On the other hand, I simply can't live with the RTF AF-assist light. It's a
PITA to have to turn on on off the RTF-flash (stupid feature - like a toyish
PS camera). Manual focus would actually be easier and faster. I wish the
*ist D had red laser AF assist light - like my SONY DSC F717, which worked
brilliantly!

The AF280T is fine at 200-800 ASA, but NOT at 1600-3200 ASA.

I don'tknow the 360. P-TTL is not for me. I simply hate preflash.

If I had to buy a new flash for my *ist D, I guess I'd buy a Metz. They are
usually excellent.

Jens Bladt
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-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Anders Hultman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 17. februar 2005 18:19
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Which flash?


I'm considering bying a flash for my *istD. Which one is best of the 500
and the 360? It seems to me that both have functions that the other do
not. Which functions are more useful, and which functions are less
important?

Advantages of the AF 500 FTZ
  * more powerful (higher GN)
  * possible to turn in two directions
  * faster flash time
  * can be used as slave

Advantages of the AF 360 FGZ
  * P-TTL
  * wireless TTL
  * can zoom out more
  * EV compensation
  * automatic mode (does the 500 really lack this???)
  * contrast control with 4 units (2 more than the 500)
  * lighter

The 500 cost more but I can get it used at the same cost as a new 360, so
price is not (that) important.

anders
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OT: What is the significance of the number 1443?

2005-02-18 Thread Bob W
Hi,

I divert all my junk mail into a separate folder, and periodically
check to make sure there isn't any real mail in there, before I flush
it away. I have noticed for a long time that the spam subjects often
contain the number 1443, or are addressed to, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which is not a real email address.

Why 1443?

Could it be to celebrate the birth of Margaret Beaufort, mother of
Henry VII of England? Or perhaps it commemorates the start of the 2nd
term as ruler of Wallachia of Vlad Dracul.

Any ideas?

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

2005-02-18 Thread arnie
I use the built in flash as a controler only. I tried using the 2 flashes on 
set on 1/3 the other on 2/3 and they seemed to give different outputs, but 
i'll need to test further. I'll have some test shots next week.

arnie
- Original Message - 
From: Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash


Arnie, I just did another test in a controlled way and could not get the 2 
slave flashes to give different outputs.  They are taken as a whole and 
the ratio you set on the slave flashes is between the slaves and the the 
master, be it the built-in flash or another 360.

You thus need to use distance to vary the respective output of the slaves. 
Or cut the output of one slave by covering its window with a neutral 
density gel, or a kleenex.

Andre
yes, thats what i'm talking about. i you could get that information for me 
i'd really appreciate it.

thanks
arnie
- Original Message - From: Andre Langevin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

Hi Arnie.  You can change the ratio between the 2 flashes, like 1/3 for 
one and 2/3 for the second one.  Is this what you mean?  If so, I'll 
check in the manual to see how to do it.  I've done it once and it was 
effective.

Andre
Jack, it works great when I do that. Just I would like to be able to 
control them a bit.

arnie
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash
Arnie,
I think I'd allow the two 360's to do their own
exposure balancing by setting both on TTL.
Jack
--- arnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use two 360, both triggered wirelessly from the
built in flash. I still
cant figure out how to manually control the exposure
of each, but it works
quite well automatically.
- Original Message - From: Lindamood, Mark 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:25 PM
Subject: Multiple wireless 360FGZ flash

 Is it possible to work two (or more) 360's
wireless triggered by the
 built-in flash?  Has anyone tried this?



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Re: Advice needed - *istD versus *isDS

2005-02-18 Thread Stephen Moore

Jim Hemenway wrote:
Here's some of my first shots with it.  They're all shot as JPGs, I hope 
to try RAW sooner or later, emphasis on sooner:
http://hemenway.com/P-isDS/
The first shot is cropped by about 10%, the rest are uncropped.
The fisheye lens used is my old screw-mount 17mm Fisheye-Takumar.

Nice work! BTW, I especially like this one:
http://hemenway.com/P-isDS/pages/fish-IMGP0090sm.htm
Regards,
Stephen Moore


Re: What is the significance of the number 1443?

2005-02-18 Thread Bob Blakely
Stop speculating or I'll put your head on a pike! (Another goblet of rare, 
aged blood, Igor...)

Regards,
Bob...
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I divert all my junk mail into a separate folder, and periodically
check to make sure there isn't any real mail in there, before I flush
it away. I have noticed for a long time that the spam subjects often
contain the number 1443, or are addressed to, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which is not a real email address.
Why 1443?
Could it be to celebrate the birth of Margaret Beaufort, mother of
Henry VII of England? Or perhaps it commemorates the start of the 2nd
term as ruler of Wallachia of Vlad Dracul.
Any ideas?



Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread John Francis

That's a relief - it removes the temptation.

I'd just about convinced myself that most of the times when
I need wider than 28mm I need faster than f2.8, but it's nice
to find local temptation has been removed.


Godfrey DiGiorgi mused:
 
 You're all evil. I was up there on an errand again this morning
 and stopped back into the store. They threw in a used Nikon HN-1
 metal lens hood and several used Pentax back caps as extras,
 dropped the price $50. I took it. 
 
 Sheesh, I own too many Pentax lenses now. 
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the
  FA24/2 (except at f2 and in AF mode :-)
 
 
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Re: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread cbwaters
Finally, we can all talk about Jostein.
Does this mean a new round of photos to look at and drool over?  

CW
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:54 AM
Subject: unsubscribing


Dunno if anyone cares,but...:-)
Will be back in 10 days' time.
See you guys.
Cheers,
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Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Peter J. Alling wrote:

 There's a rational for keeping the 1.7.  The instructions that come with
 the Autobellows M states that
 the M 1.7 50mm has a flatter plane of focus than the 50 f1.4.  Since all
 the 1.7's have the same basic
 optical formula as all of the 1.4's as well.  You could assume that the
 1.7 would give better results on
 a bellows or lens extensions.  But that's just an assumption.

There is also http://stans-photography.info for all the opinions
you like :-)

Kostas



Re: Re[2]: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Currently there is no 8 MP APS CCD available from Sony, Sanyo, etc.

The key word there is currently. You can bet your bottom dollar that 8
megapixel and greater CMOS sensors are under development by Sony and
others. And not far off production.

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Juan Buhler
So, now that you got it I can ask:

Was it KS in palo Alto?

j


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:50:57 -0800 (PST), Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're all evil. I was up there on an errand again this morning
 and stopped back into the store. They threw in a used Nikon HN-1
 metal lens hood and several used Pentax back caps as extras,
 dropped the price $50. I took it.
 
 Sheesh, I own too many Pentax lenses now.
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the
  FA24/2 (except at f2 and in AF mode :-)
 
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Re: M42 adaptor

2005-02-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

This comment is not designed to add useful discourse.
 
 Mark!

Who is Mark?
b...

He be the keeper of quotations




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Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
You can never own too many Pentax lenses...
Regards,  Bob S.


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:50:57 -0800 (PST), Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You're all evil. I was up there on an errand again this morning
 and stopped back into the store. They threw in a used Nikon HN-1
 metal lens hood and several used Pentax back caps as extras,
 dropped the price $50. I took it.
 
 Sheesh, I own too many Pentax lenses now.
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Har, I'll back him up on that too, it stamps all over the
  FA24/2 (except at f2 and in AF mode :-)
 
 
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FS Friday: Vivitar Zoom Thyristor 2500 Flash

2005-02-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Seems to work just as it's supposed to.  Pics here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/viv.jpg

Please contact me off list if you're interested.


Shel 




Re: Re[2]: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread John Francis
Mark Roberts mused:
 
 Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Currently there is no 8 MP APS CCD available from Sony, Sanyo, etc.
 
 The key word there is currently. You can bet your bottom dollar that 8
 megapixel and greater CMOS sensors are under development by Sony and
 others. And not far off production.

Pentax, though, are rarely early adopters.  Would they get a DSLR
to market within 12 months of the sensor first becoming available?




Re: addiction...

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yes. 

Godfrey

--- Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, now that you got it I can ask:
 Was it KS in Palo Alto?




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RE: Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh!!!

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya
hey frank,

the OPPOSITE of black IS white

hehe...

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Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247 

-Original Message-
From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 4:45 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Aaaarrrgggh!!!


frank theriault wrote:
 
 I thought that March PUG was Black and White.
 
 I have a fresh print being done up for tomorrow for the occasion.
 
 Now I see that it's actually Opposites.  H...  What to do now?
 
 Think, frank, think.  Better yet, go into the archives, and see what
 you can dig up.
 
 crap,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

But you are ahead of time for APRIL :)

or you could jsut putit in the non theme

damn I gotta get to sleep

off list for a few days guys

annsan




RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you are
still stuck with direct flash.

Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate exposure
for me when used together with the Starkist.

Tan.

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
would be helpful.

Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
  And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
I'm kind of torn.

Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
each?

Dave




Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-18 Thread Gonz
Love it.  Nice catch.
rg
frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
cheers,
frank



RE: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

You'd better be!!

Tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247 

-Original Message-
From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 5:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: unsubscribing



Dunno if anyone cares,but...:-)

Will be back in 10 days' time.
See you guys.

Cheers,
Jostein




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Re: PAW: Taking the Bloor Train Home

2005-02-18 Thread Gonz

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Frank, I'm surprised at you, this is wonderfully focused.  It's a great 
composition by the way.

You have discovered Frank's problem.  He shouldn't look through the 
viewfinder, when he doesn't, they are in focus.  When he does, well

rg
frank theriault wrote:
This poor kid could hardly keep his eyes open.  vbg
Taken with the LX at waist level (I'm not taking a photo, I'm just
fixing something on the camera, just ignore me, I'm not doing
anything, dum de dum...) with the K 1.2 50 at about f2.0, auto
exposure:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3125114size=lg
Let me know what you think.  Thanks to all who look and/or comment.
cheers,
frank
 





IstD vs IstDS

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

I'm in need for a second body guys and didn't really take much notice when
the IstDS was released - can someone give me a quick run down and some views
as to whether it would be a suitable backup for my Ist D or should I just
buy a second IstD?

Thanks in advance!

Tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247



Re: FA 50mm 1.4 back on BH list

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is also http://stans-photography.info for all the
 opinions you like :-)

Yeah, I've read all of that already. 

I think I'm going to go with the frugal side of valor and keep
the A50/1.4 and F50/1.7 rather than go through the hassle of
buying the FA50/1.4 and selling either of them. They both seem
superb, if slightly different in rendering character. (I've also
acquired nice examples of the A50/1.7, A50/2, and A50/2.8 Macro
so my closet is bursting with 50s... ;-)

Besides, the rumored-soon-to-be-announced D-FA50/1.4 might be
just around the corner too... 

Godfrey


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FS Friday: SMC-M 28/3.5

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Breaks me heart to sell it (*especially* after getting it out and
handling it again to shoot photos of it) but I'm offering up this
beautiful lens because I hardly ever use it any more.
It does have a flaw: Some obvious scuffing on the outside of the filter
ring that has been touched up by the previous owner. Perhaps this will
dissuade anyone from buying it and it'll stay with me? Unfortunately,
the glass is in perfect condition. This is a really sharp lens. Almost
flare-proof; you have to get the sun in the frame to have any chance of
getting any flare at all.
Cosmetically it's EX+ condition except for some minor wear on the ridges
of the aperture ring at the bottom. Overall, it's quite beautiful. The
hard case that comes with it is a little beat up, but probably accounts
for the nice condition of the lens itself.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/28-35_1.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/28-35_2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/28-35_3.jpg
Shots 2 and 3 show the filter ring problem, such as it is.

$60.00 + shipping

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
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Re: OT: What is the significance of the number 1443?

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
I think you're reading more into this than there is.
Bob W wrote:
Hi,
I divert all my junk mail into a separate folder, and periodically
check to make sure there isn't any real mail in there, before I flush
it away. I have noticed for a long time that the spam subjects often
contain the number 1443, or are addressed to, say, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
which is not a real email address.
Why 1443?
Could it be to celebrate the birth of Margaret Beaufort, mother of
Henry VII of England? Or perhaps it commemorates the start of the 2nd
term as ruler of Wallachia of Vlad Dracul.
Any ideas?
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: IstD vs IstDS

2005-02-18 Thread Gonz
Wait and see if there are any new announcements from Pentax this coming 
week (PMA).  They are letting the D inventory sell itself out without 
replacing it, so there might be something in the works.  Don't forget 
that the DS does not take CF cards.

rg
Steve and Tanya wrote:
I'm in need for a second body guys and didn't really take much notice when
the IstDS was released - can someone give me a quick run down and some views
as to whether it would be a suitable backup for my Ist D or should I just
buy a second IstD?
Thanks in advance!
Tan. :)
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247



Re: Re[2]: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mark Roberts mused:
 
 Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Currently there is no 8 MP APS CCD available from Sony, Sanyo, etc.
 
 The key word there is currently. You can bet your bottom dollar that 8
 megapixel and greater CMOS sensors are under development by Sony and
 others. And not far off production.

Pentax, though, are rarely early adopters.  Would they get a DSLR
to market within 12 months of the sensor first becoming available?

At this point, sensors for digital cameras are a commodity item. I'd
expect Pentax to have a camera available well within the 12 month
window. Remember, it's in the *sensor manufacturer's* best interest to
have multiple vendors buying/selling their product ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh!!!

2005-02-18 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/05, Steve and Tanya, discombobulated, unleashed:

hey frank,

the OPPOSITE of black IS white

hehe...

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com

Yo! Fairy girl!




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Re: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread cbwaters
holy back from the dead batman!
- Original Message - 
From: Steve and Tanya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: unsubscribing


You'd better be!!
Tan. :)
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247 

-Original Message-
From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 5:54 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: unsubscribing

Dunno if anyone cares,but...:-)
Will be back in 10 days' time.
See you guys.
Cheers,
Jostein


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Re: IstD vs IstDS

2005-02-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 I'm in need for a second body guys and didn't really take much
 notice when the IstDS was released - can someone give me a
quick
 run down and some views as to whether it would be a suitable
 backup for my Ist D or should I just buy a second IstD?

Very briefly:
The DS has simpler controls (one thumbwheel rather than two),
improved write speed performance, more settings driven through
the menu and LCD rather than through discrete buttons, does not
have wireless flash built in (you need two 360s to do wireless
flash, can't do it with one external and the built in), does not
have HyperProgram, will not take a battery grip, and uses
SecureDigital cards rather than CompactFlash cards. There are
other differences, both in features and in operation, but these
are the ones that I hear all the time as deciding points. The DS
has scene modes and such that the D does not, but they don't go
neither here nor there for me. 

I bought a DS because I liked it more ... I prefer the simpler
control layout, ergonomics, and the things missing from the D
model are not particularly important to me. 

That said, thinking of a backup myself, I would buy another DS
over a D simply because they would both use SD cards. If I had a
D, I'd buy another D so that I could use my CF cards in both.
What I'd like to see Pentax release is an upgraded DS follow
on with perhaps a couple of the D features returned and maybe a
skin in magnesium for a more robust feel without adding any
weight or size. 

Godfrey



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Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
My Sigma EF-500 DG Super arrived this afteroon, and I've done some testing. I 
have to say that i'm very impressed. It does high speed synch, trailing curtain 
shutter, P-TTL, contrast control, exposure compensation, etc. It seems to 
support all of the functions of the AF 360GFZ with output that's close to that 
of the AF 500FTZ. The head tilts and swivels unlike the 360, which apparently 
provides tilt only. This is important when taking vertical format pics and 
bouncing the flash. The build quality seems quite good. I tested the high speed 
synch, the trailing curtain shutter synch and the p-TTL operation at a variety 
of exposures and distances. All of the shots appeared to be properly exposed on 
the *istD lcd screen.
Paul


 I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
 have one flash that did everything the body could support.
 
 Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
 same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
 going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
 very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
 compare them. 
 
 I think I might have asked this one time prior, but my memory is
 going... ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Another option is the Sigma EF 500 DG super. You get P-TTL,
  high speed 
  synch and a guide number of 160 at 105mm, which is quite a bit
  more pop 
  than the AF360 FTZ.. BH sells it for $199.95. I ordered one
  just the 
  other day and expect it today. I prveiously had the Sigma EF
  500 DG ST, 
  which is equally powerful but has no bells and whistles. Not
  as well 
  made as my Pentax AF400T, which I will continue to use for a
  lot of 
  things, but it's decent.
  
  On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:00 AM, David Oswald wrote:
  
   I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the
  results it 
   gives me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are
  times that I 
   would like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a
  little more 
   range would be helpful.
  
   Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying
  one. It's 
   essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's
  nicer 
   flashes.  And you can find them on eBay for under $200
  sometimes.
  
   But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering 
   compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new
  features, 
   I'm kind of torn.
  
   Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and
  pros/cons of 
   each?
  
   Dave
  
  
  
 
 
   
   
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RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here. 
Paul


 
 David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
 limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
 portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you are
 still stuck with direct flash.
 
 Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
 AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
 the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate exposure
 for me when used together with the Starkist.
 
 Tan.
 
 Tanya Mayer Photography
 
 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
 
 
 I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
 me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
 like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
 would be helpful.
 
 Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
 essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
   And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.
 
 But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
 compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
 I'm kind of torn.
 
 Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
 each?
 
 Dave
 
 



RE: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

hehe, i always bin here - just hidin'!  You know those of us who actually
WORK don't have much time to sit around chatting to you mob... ;)

tan.

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

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From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 9:30 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: unsubscribing


holy back from the dead batman!

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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: unsubscribing



 You'd better be!!

 Tan. :)

 Tanya Mayer Photography

 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247

 -Original Message-
 From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 5:54 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: unsubscribing



 Dunno if anyone cares,but...:-)

 Will be back in 10 days' time.
 See you guys.

 Cheers,
 Jostein



 
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Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm still debating on dedicated flash units. It would be nice to
have one flash that did everything the body could support.

Does the Sigma support second curtain sync and wireless mode
same as the 360? is it well made enough to not feel like it was
going to fall apart in a year? The Pentax 360 and 500 units are
very nicely made, but my dealer doesn't carry the Sigma line to
compare them. 

I have the Sigma and I'm very pleased with it. It *does* support
wireless mode and second-curtain sync. Construction seems very solid.
Probably *better* than my AF400 FTZ, but I haven't had an AF500 FTZ or
AF360 FTG so I can't say how it compares to those.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



A Second Body for Tan (Was Re: IstD vs IstDS)

2005-02-18 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Tanja,
I thought you already bought that second body vbg. As I said in your earlier 
post, welcome back to the list. The *istDS is a good second body in a lot of 
ways. It has a bigger, faster buffer, a larger LCD screen, and it's slightly 
smaller. However, It won't accept a battery grip, and it doesn't have separate 
AV and TV controls, and it doesn't have Hyper Program mode. The deal breaker 
for me was no battery grip. I like having the vertical shooting mode and the 
bigger grip as well as the longer battery life. So I bought an *istD as a 
second body. YMMV.
Paul


 
 I'm in need for a second body guys and didn't really take much notice when
 the IstDS was released - can someone give me a quick run down and some views
 as to whether it would be a suitable backup for my Ist D or should I just
 buy a second IstD?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Tan. :)
 
 Tanya Mayer Photography
 
 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247
 



Re: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
A major manufacturer with an existing relationship will have 
pre-production copies and specifications
for design and testing.  If Sony is going to have the chip in quantity 
soon then their major customers already
have something to work with.

John Francis wrote:
Mark Roberts mused:
 

Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Currently there is no 8 MP APS CCD available from Sony, Sanyo, etc.
 

The key word there is currently. You can bet your bottom dollar that 8
megapixel and greater CMOS sensors are under development by Sony and
others. And not far off production.
   

Pentax, though, are rarely early adopters.  Would they get a DSLR
to market within 12 months of the sensor first becoming available?

 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

hey Paul!  yep, i's alive

hehe, glad that you all seem to remember me!

tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 9:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here.
Paul



 David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
 limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
 portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you
are
 still stuck with direct flash.

 Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
 AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
 the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate
exposure
 for me when used together with the Starkist.

 Tan.

 Tanya Mayer Photography

 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
 www.tanyamayer.com
 Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
 Mobile +61 0437831247

 -Original Message-
 From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds


 I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
 me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
 like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
 would be helpful.

 Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
 essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
   And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.

 But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
 compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
 I'm kind of torn.

 Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
 each?

 Dave






Singapore Proposal...

2005-02-18 Thread Steve and Tanya

hey guys, how cool is this?  this week i was contacted by a studio in
singapore who is looking for one photographer per State in Australia to be
able to set up a partnership with.  They have clients in Singapore who
wish to have wedding photos taken at various locations in Australia and
would like to be able to offer them a complete package ie. limousine
pickup from airport, transport to hotel, hotel accomodation, makeup, hair,
photoshoot, album, and then return to airport etc.  They spent the last
month viewing websites of Queensland photographers only to choose me!

Cool huh?  It's going to be a nice money spinner and heaps of fun too!  No
psycho mothers of the bride to deal with!  I just take the pretty pics and
then they get on a plane back to Singapore where they get married! woohoo!

tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247



Re: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds

2005-02-18 Thread Peter J. Alling
After the recovery post how could we ever forget...
Steve and Tanya wrote:
hey Paul!  yep, i's alive
hehe, glad that you all seem to remember me!
tan. :)
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 9:42 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
Hi there young lady. Good to see you posting here.
Paul
 

David, the AF360fgz, as well as being a smaller guide number, has another
limitation - it only has bounce, no swivel.  Therefore if shooting in a
portrait framing mode, you can't bounce the flash of the ceiling and you
   

are
 

still stuck with direct flash.
Personally, the whole wireless thing was all too complex for me.  Now, my
AF360fgz is my backup flash, and the AF500ftz is my workhorse.  It is also
the only flash that has come any near providing consistent accurate
   

exposure
 

for me when used together with the Starkist.
Tan.
Tanya Mayer Photography
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247
-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 6:00 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: AF500FTZ vs. AF360GFZ on an *ist-Ds
I currently have a Pentax AF330FTZ flash, and like the results it gives
me on both my ZX-5n and my *ist-Ds.  But there are times that I would
like a bounce feature, and on occasion, times that a little more range
would be helpful.
Having used an AF500FTZ a few times I am considering buying one. It's
essentially the tried and proven workhorse among Pentax's nicer flashes.
 And you can find them on eBay for under $200 sometimes.
But then along comes the AF360FGZ, with its P-TTL metering
compatibility, wider field of coverage, and other shiny new features,
I'm kind of torn.
Can anyone who has used both comment on differences, and pros/cons of
each?
Dave
   


 


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I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: unsubscribing

2005-02-18 Thread cbwaters
- Original Message - 
From: Steve and Tanya You know those of us who actually
WORK don't have much time to sit around chatting to you mob... ;)
tan.

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Re: Sid's gettin enabled soon-- *istD, *istDS, or wait for *istDn?

2005-02-18 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:56:31 -0500, Peter J. Alling wrote:

 If they are like most other companies they probably hired a fulfillment 
 house to handle it for them.  These places are usually run on a very 
 tight budget and the only way for them to make a profit is to run as 
 lean as possible.  This can lead to very spotty operations.

Some of them also pitch to the clients that they guarantee no more than
XX% take up on the rebate and make it hard to get the rebate for
exactly that reason.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhhh!!!

2005-02-18 Thread Keith Whaley

Steve and Tanya wrote:
hey frank,
the OPPOSITE of black IS white
hehe...
Tanya Mayer Photography
You still exist!
Hooray!   g
keith whaley
Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549
Mobile +61 0437831247 

-Original Message-
From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 4:45 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Aaaarrrgggh!!!
frank theriault wrote:
I thought that March PUG was Black and White.
I have a fresh print being done up for tomorrow for the occasion.
Now I see that it's actually Opposites.  H...  What to do now?
Think, frank, think.  Better yet, go into the archives, and see what
you can dig up.
crap,
frank



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