Re: PAW PESO - Lotus

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

I don't see that any spots are blown out, but a small adjustment in the
highlights on the fender tops using the shadows/highlights Adjustment might
help.

Maris

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Shel,
>
> It looks pretty good.  This is a tricky subject that has a wide range
> from black to white - looks like you let one or two little spots blow
> out, but I don't think they really negatively impact the image.  Most
> of the reflections look well handled.
>
> Not a bad pic, BTW.
>
>
>> On the way to a friend's house early this evening this bright yellow
>> jewel stopped me in my tracks.
>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/lotus.html

Re: PAW PESO - Lotus

[Maris V. Lidaka Sr.]

Very good picture - I like the tight compososition.  Looks like you've
mastered digital exposure and white-point setting.

What do you mean by "how the conversion looks"?

Maris

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> On the way to a friend's house early this evening this bright yellow
> jewel stopped me in my tracks.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/lotus.html
>
> Tech Details:  istDS,  A50/2.0 glass @ F4.5,  200 ISO ...
>
> Most interested in comments on how the conversion looks.

Re: PAW PESO - Lotus

[Bruce Dayton]

Shel,

It looks pretty good.  This is a tricky subject that has a wide range
from black to white - looks like you let one or two little spots blow
out, but I don't think they really negatively impact the image.  Most
of the reflections look well handled.

Not a bad pic, BTW.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, September 16, 2005, 9:42:28 PM, you wrote:

SB> On the way to a friend's house early this evening this bright yellow jewel
SB> stopped me in my tracks.

SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/lotus.html

SB> Tech Details:  istDS,  A50/2.0 glass @ F4.5,  200 ISO ...

SB> Most interested in comments on how the conversion looks.


SB> Shel 

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[Adam Maas]

E.R.N. Reed wrote:



Someone recently commented on this wrt the many versions of Canon 
Rebel -- wasn't that about the same process as is now being observed 
in digital cameras?



Not really, that was more a case of name confusion, The EOS naming for 
the Rebels made far more sense (All the models were similar, but with 
fairly major mechanical changes across the line, except for the S 
designation, which simply meant onboard flash)


-Adam

Re: PAW PESO - Lotus

[David Savage]

Nice one Shel. The conversion looks fine to me.

Dave

On 9/17/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the way to a friend's house early this evening this bright yellow jewel
> stopped me in my tracks.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/lotus.html
> 
> Tech Details:  istDS,  A50/2.0 glass @ F4.5,  200 ISO ...
> 
> Most interested in comments on how the conversion looks.
> 
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Dave

PAW PESO - Lotus

[Shel Belinkoff]

On the way to a friend's house early this evening this bright yellow jewel
stopped me in my tracks.

http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/lotus.html

Tech Details:  istDS,  A50/2.0 glass @ F4.5,  200 ISO ...

Most interested in comments on how the conversion looks.


Shel 

FS: Near mint SMC Pentax-M 135mm f3.5 lens

[Chris Brogden]

I call this little jewel near mint only because I don't want to callany 
out-of-the-box lens "mint", but it's as close to mint as you'regoing to find.  
Focusing is buttery smooth, aperture blades areperfect, etc. etc.  Buy it, and 
you won't be disappointed. $50.00 US including shipping to Canada or CONUS.  
PayPal preferred,personal cheques or money orders accepted from long-time 
PDMLers. Sorry, I don't have any photos and my digital p&s (or, rather 
P.o.S.)isn't working right now. chris

Re: OT - PAW - Tumbling

[David Savage]

Very colourful, and I like the framing. My only problem with it is it
makes me a bit queasy & dizzy. 

Very nice.

Dave

On 9/15/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OT because it's not Pentax.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Dave

Re: Some Posting Suggestions

[David Savage]

Tom,

Try going to View - Current View - Group Messages by Conversation. I
have Outlook Express 6, and by doing this it sorts the messages by
thread.

BTW, I only use OE to download the messages for my record. I use the
gmail web mail interface for posting

Dave S

On 9/17/05, Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyhoo, I have not used Outlook Express in a couple of years but I seem
> > to remember that you can set it to thread messages.
> 
> there isn't any way that I've found so far and I quit looking.
> 
> > I am sure you can
> > set it to sort by subject.
> 
> that I can do but the new messages get all mixed in with the old ones. I
> have to go hunt for them and that's too much work.
> 
> > You have no excuses, sir.
> 
> Don't need one.
> 
> 


-- 
Dave

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[E.R.N. Reed]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Christian wrote:

.. Film cameras never had such minor changes done over their  
lifespans. ..



Actually, a lot of film cameras did but the manufacturers never used  
to ballyhoo every minor tweak with a new model designation or a big  
to-do. For instance, very few people seem to be aware that the Nikon  
FM2n was almost completely overhauled in detail somewhere around  1992 
... they did a big rework on materials choices and manufacturing  
process for a lot of the film transport, shutter and mirror bits to  
improve longevity, reduce lubrication needs, etc etc. Nikon never  
said much about it.


Nowadays, they market new models like consumer disposables. It's a  
pain in the butt. 



Someone recently commented on this wrt the many versions of Canon Rebel 
-- wasn't that about the same process as is now being observed in 
digital cameras?

Re: Optio 50 clone

[E.R.N. Reed]

Dario Bonazza wrote:


I think such stuff is made by Premier, here in Ricoh designation:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05091602ricoh_capliorr530.asp

Has anyone noticed other clones of the Optio 50? 


There was a Vivitar on the Wal*Mart shelf very near to the Optio 50, 
same specs and *very* strong resemblance. But I failed to note the model 
designation.

Re: PESO -- Teenager in training.

[The Professor at Pastiche Studio]

A tad cool (blue)on my screen. 


J,W,L.

-- Original Message - 
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: SV: PESO -- Teenager in training.



Very nice shot. Kind dull, though. I'd consider giving it some "auto
levels".
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. september 2005 18:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO -- Teenager in training.


Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html

Technical Info:

Pentax *ist-D ISO 400 @ 1/125sec  (Built in Flash)
smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6AL[IF]  @ 200mm f5.6

--

When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[John Francis]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 03:09:29PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Christian wrote:
> 
> >.. Film cameras never had such minor changes done over their  
> >lifespans. ..
> 
> Actually, a lot of film cameras did but the manufacturers never used  
> to ballyhoo every minor tweak with a new model designation or a big  
> to-do.

For Pentax examples, we have the MX (two major variants, most easily
differentiated by the material used for the film memo holder), and
the K-1000, which probably changed more than any other Pentax body.

Re: Raving... :)

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Photo to Movie...
>> $49.95! Or $29.95 for download only (they don't mail you the full  
>> boxed
>> package & CD)
>> http://www.lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php
>
>Looks very neat! I've downloaded the trial version ...
>Both Mac OS X and Windows versions ... {pats on head} "Good Developer."
>
>;-) :-)

Yup, and even though the web page specifies Windows XP, the software
runs fine on Win2k.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Jim Colwell]

from SPLOSdb "Annex F:  Some Funny Stuff"
--
PENTAX FC-38LH COLONOSCOPE  Description: Only one black spot ...
--
Jim
www.jcolwell.ca 

P.S. Fred, shame on you.

Re: Raving... :)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Photo to Movie...
$49.95! Or $29.95 for download only (they don't mail you the full  
boxed

package & CD)
http://www.lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php


Looks very neat! I've downloaded the trial version ...
Both Mac OS X and Windows versions ... {pats on head} "Good Developer."

;-) :-)

Godfrey

Re: Raving... :)

[Mark Roberts]

Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hello Mark,
>
>Thanks for the tip, I'm going to check it out.

Be warned: It'll eat up whatever spare time you have :)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)]

Glen a écrit :

For someone like me, who has been switching between the various 
exposure modes a lot, it's really disappointing that all these 
settings can get overridden, depending on the exposure mode. If only 
Pentax would make a firmware update that eliminated this unwanted 
behavior. With things switching around like this, "behind my back". 
I'll have to forget about using most of the exposure modes. I don't 
want my color saturation and other settings fluctuating during a 
shoot, just because I switched exposure modes.



Personally, I consider this as an interesting feature rather than an 
issue. I usually use P, T, A, M or B modes, where all settings are 
applicable. Accasionally, my wife picks up my DS to shoot a picture or 
two, and certainly does not want to bother much with settings. I'm 
pretty sure that whatever weird settings I left on the DS with, most of 
them will be disabled in the picture modes, so my wife doesn't bark at 
me that "my camera is unuseable". Still better, when I pick the DS back, 
I get my screwy settings back automagically.


I would have a harder time justifying my investment in the DS if my wife 
couldn't consistently use it, so it's a really cool feature ;-) . Any 
other SLR that operates differently would be unacceptable to her, and 
she hates point and shoot digital cameras, with their 
crappy/non-existent viewfinders, their W/T switches, their power-on and 
shutter delay, and their poor red eye performance.


Additionally, if I'm doing some special shooting with specific settings, 
I can always get back to a picture mode on short notice to catch an 
unexpected event and be sure I get a decent picture.


By the way, I've been having my DS for a few weeks now, and all in all,  
moving from the MZ5n to the *ist DS is quite comfortable! I just feel a 
little awkward when it comes to selecting shutter speed/aperture... 
Especially aperture, which I frequently try to set with the ring... 
Fortunately, the flash recess over the lens barrel makes unlocking the A 
setting almost impossible, and I guess it is actually intentional from 
Pentax.


Patrice

Re: Best test subject for *isDS JPEG compression testing?

[John Forbes]

I always use the best.  JPG is a compromise anyway; no point in making it  
worse.  If you're short of space on a card, buy more cards.


John

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:32:21 +0100, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Glen wrote:

Does anyone have suggestions for an "ideal test subject" that I can use  
to evaluate how much compression I can tolerate in my JPEG files?  
Sometimes I shoot in JPEG mode to get more exposures on my card. A lot  
of the time, I can't tell any significant different difference between  
different JPEG compression modes. What type of subject would highlight  
the various JPEG flaws and limitations the most?



thanks,
Glen




A very simple graphic image, say of a chequerboard. You can easily spot  
the JPEG artifacts near the edges if the compression is high.






--
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Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
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Re: Bought one: Was OT: 1, 2 or 3

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:48 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Good stuff. That is possibly my next laptop too, although I might  
go for a 12" for portability's sake.


Just as an FYI, the screen on the 15" Powerbooks is MUCH nicer than  
the 12" iBooks and Powerbooks.  Brighter, anyways.  Better  
contrast.  Make sure you check out the other advantages/ 
disadvantages of the smaller model before you make the leap.


(and, knowing Apple, this info could be out of date the minute I  
hit "send".  But as of two months ago when my brother swapped up  
from his iBook to the 12" Powerbook, he was disappointed that he  
didn't end up with a screen that was any better than the one he'd had.


The PB 12" and iBook 12" use the same screen. I've had both PB G4 15"  
and 17" models when I worked at Apple (supplied by my boss), but I  
used the iBook and PB 12" models a lot too. The smaller screens are  
satisfactory for what I'd want in the laptop, the larger screens are  
definitely better.


For any serious image editing, any of them is quickly outdone by  
plugging in a desktop monitor.  :-)


Godfrey

Re: Some Posting Suggestions

[Tom Reese]

> Anyhoo, I have not used Outlook Express in a couple of years but I seem
> to remember that you can set it to thread messages.

there isn't any way that I've found so far and I quit looking.

> I am sure you can
> set it to sort by subject.

that I can do but the new messages get all mixed in with the old ones. I
have to go hunt for them and that's too much work.

> You have no excuses, sir.

Don't need one.

Re: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 4:13 PM, Glen wrote:

Also, my last camera was a manual-only Nikon FM. When confronted  
with the plethora of exposure modes on the DS, I couldn't resist  
trying them all. ;)


There ya go.

I reality, the Av, Tv, P, M, and B settings should be all I ever  
need -- unless that mode for moving subjects actually helps with  
autofocusing on a moving subject. I haven't really tried that one  
yet, but I've tried all the others.


I used the Nikon FM/FE2/F3T and a couple of Leicas almost exclusively  
for nearly 20 years so I know what you mean. Manual and aperture- 
priority AE, with CW or center spot metering patterns were all I  
needed... ;-)


In general, for quick grabs when I am not concentrating on much, I  
leave the camera set on P and ISO 400. That covers a heck of a lot of  
ground when you're not explicitly trying to control focus zone and  
just need an average good exposure. Most of the time I use Av mode  
for ambient light, M mode for flash or when using pre-A series  
lenses, and occasionally Tv mode for when I'm working with longer- 
than-my-usual focal length range or sports.


I think I've made about 40 exposures in the program preset modes,  
they're mostly irrelevant to my needs. The sports mode is marginally  
useful for the C-AF, but I use C-AF so infrequently it's just not  
very meaningful.


Godfrey

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Tom Reese]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.


> Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
> >
> >If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...
> 
> I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
> that...

If they don't like it they can shove it.

Tom Reese

Re: Bought one: Was OT: 1, 2 or 3

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 17:12, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Good stuff. That is possibly my next laptop too, although I might  
go for a 12" for portability's sake.




Just as an FYI, the screen on the 15" Powerbooks is MUCH nicer than  
the 12" iBooks and Powerbooks.  Brighter, anyways.  Better contrast.   
Make sure you check out the other advantages/disadvantages of the  
smaller model before you make the leap.


(and, knowing Apple, this info could be out of date the minute I hit  
"send".  But as of two months ago when my brother swapped up from his  
iBook to the 12" Powerbook, he was disappointed that he didn't end up  
with a screen that was any better than the one he'd had.


 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org

Re: Got my *ist D this morning

[brooksdj]

  Frank.
I have my old Raliegh 3 speed and Norco 10 speed, out in the garage. Air in 
the tires
and new
chains should be all thats required.:-)

Out West, they refer to GFM as a hill. That should put it into perspective.LOL

Adam, nice to have another TOPDMLer around.
Frank will do anything for beer.

Dave(north of TO )Brooks

Dave
> 
> Sadly, my trackbike is in rehab right no - the frame's cracked, but it
> should be repairable.  I'm now riding a road bike, with gear and
> brakes and everything.  Now that I'm not messengering, I've turned
> into an old softie anyway.  
> 
> But, I'll be fine going up and down the mountains.  Are they bigger
> out there than in Ontario?  
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Re: *istDS Frame Counter Limited to 999 frames?

[Herb Chong]

the counter counts down, not up. it stays at 999 until the estimated space 
for remaining frames is less than 999.


Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Glen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 6:22 PM
Subject: *istDS Frame Counter Limited to 999 frames?


Has anyone ever set their camera to a combination of resolution and JPEG 
compression that should result in more than 999 frames on a single 1Gig 
card?


That's the most my camera ever indicates as being available. Is it 
actually possible to record more than 999 frames?


If anyone has done this, how does the frame counter respond after the 
999th frame?

RE: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Glen]

At 06:44 PM 9/16/2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Why do you switch between exposure choices so often?


It's entirely possible that I just haven't figured out the optimum way to 
use the camera yet.  ;)


Also, my last camera was a manual-only Nikon FM. When confronted with the 
plethora of exposure modes on the DS, I couldn't resist trying them all. ;)


I reality, the Av, Tv, P, M, and B settings should be all I ever need -- 
unless that mode for moving subjects actually helps with autofocusing on a 
moving subject. I haven't really tried that one yet, but I've tried all the 
others.



take care,
Glen

Re: Tripod heads & such

[Herb Chong]

which tripod heads are you referring to? there are at least 4 i see in the 
pictures. i have a version of the Kaidan and i have seen and touched the 
Manfrotto. i don't know about the other two. they look like Arca-Swiss ones 
without the black anodized finish.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: OT: Tripod heads & such



http://www.laatuaika.com/forsale.html

I've not seen these heads anywhere before.
But they look pretty nice.  Especiall for technical/macro work.

Anyone on the list live in his area?
(I'm chatting with him about the Nagaoka, so hands off!  [please] )

Re: Bought one: Was OT: 1, 2 or 3

[brooksdj]

He'll wish i did not have his email. soon enough.LOL

Dave  

> On 16/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Read up a bit on the Apple wireless base and modems etc.
> >Sounds confusing but i'm sure its not.
> 
> Nice one mate! Any problems, give Godders a shout ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
> 
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> _
> 
> 

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Derek]

Cool!  Can I get one of those for my office?


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) wrote:
> 
> >Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise & throat) doctors, and dentists 
> use Endoscope orally. 
> 
> How well I know: The ruler lying on my desk (which my dear SO got free
> at some medical conference or the other) is decorated with photos of the
> inside of someone's esophagus in various stages of disease/health. Quite
> the conversation piece.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 

Re: It's Here and It Works!

[Eactivist]

This does not disparage the notion of fully understanding a camera  
and its idiosyncracies/controls so as to be able to pick it up  
'running' and get great shots immediately. "The better you know a  
particular piece of equipment, the less significant its flaws  
are." ;-) It's why, this year, I have taken virtually every  
photograph I've made with the *ist DS. I'm getting to know it and the  
lenses I've bought for it very well, much like I knew my Nikons and  
Leicas in the past. I use it in much the same way now: it's an  
extension of my hand and eye, not a device to come to grips with.

Godfrey
=
Right. After our discussion, I now realize that the 300D does do highlight 
blinkies (info mode, review and playback). Duh. I don't know my camera, still, 
well enough. So I missed something really worth while.

Marnie 

Re: *istDS Frame Counter Limited to 999 frames?

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Glen,

The frame counter should be ok - it actually calculates how many
average size images could be stored.  This changes based on the type
of image you are shooting (compression).  Since it is a calculation
based on available space, it should not be an issue.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, September 16, 2005, 3:22:47 PM, you wrote:

G> Has anyone ever set their camera to a combination of resolution and JPEG
G> compression that should result in more than 999 frames on a single 1Gig card?

G> That's the most my camera ever indicates as being available. Is it actually
G> possible to record more than 999 frames?

G> If anyone has done this, how does the frame counter respond after the 999th
G> frame?


G> thanks,
G> Glen

Re: Raving... :)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 9/16/2005 2:18:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This program rocks! You can use it to
make movies from your photos (as the name implies). Lots of useful
options to keep it (and your movies) from getting boring and a
magnificently easy-to-use interface. Top-notch stuff and it's only
$49.95! Or $29.95 for download only (they don't mail you the full boxed
package & CD)

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/photo2movie.shtml
http://www.lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php

Truly brilliant stuff.
-- 
Mark Roberts
===
Thanks, Mark. It looks cool.

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: *istDS Frame Counter Limited to 999 frames?

[brooksdj]

Hi Glen.

I have not done this with the istD, but i know with my D2H and D1 the number 
will change.

Example: Format 1gig card in D1. Read out is 789(i think) in hi Jpeg. Actual 
number of
images
recorded was around the low 800's.

Hope that helps.

Dave

> Has anyone ever set their camera to a 
combination of resolution and JPEG 
> compression that should result in more than 999 frames on a single 1Gig card?
> 
> That's the most my camera ever indicates as being available. Is it actually 
> possible to record more than 999 frames?
> 
> If anyone has done this, how does the frame counter respond after the 999th 
> frame?
> 
> 
> thanks,
> Glen
> 

RE: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Why do you switch between exposure choices so often?  Hmmm  maybe i
should try something other than RAW just to see what it does.

Shel 

>
> For someone like me, who has been switching 
> between the various exposure modes a lot, it's really disappointing that 
> all these settings can get overridden, depending on the exposure mode. If 
> only Pentax would make a firmware update that eliminated this unwanted 
> behavior. With things switching around like this, "behind my back". I'll 
> have to forget about using most of the exposure modes. I don't want my 
> color saturation and other settings fluctuating during a shoot, just 
> because I switched exposure modes.

Re: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Glen wrote:

Somehow I overlooked that. For someone like me, who has been  
switching between the various exposure modes a lot, it's really  
disappointing that all these settings can get overridden, depending  
on the exposure mode. If only Pentax would make a firmware update  
that eliminated this unwanted behavior. With things switching  
around like this, "behind my back". I'll have to forget about using  
most of the exposure modes. I don't want my color saturation and  
other settings fluctuating during a shoot, just because I switched  
exposure modes.


The program presets (or "scene modes" or "basic options" depending  
upon what nomenclature you like) are designed to make it easy for  
people who don't know or care much about control to get good  
pictures. They override some settings so as to get consistent  
behavior regardless how how a novice might have incorrectly set up  
the configuration. The one essential boon that Pentax provides is  
that you can save to RAW files even with the the program presets, so  
you can always change the way the camera would have created the JPEG  
rendering easily.


Any program preset mode, but one, can be replicated in P, Tv, Av, and  
M exposure modes. They are the "creative" or "advanced" settings:  
they override none of the user settings.


The only program preset I've used with the DS (other than for  
testing) is the "sports" mode, because that is the only mode that  
supports Continuous-AF operation. I actually didn't find it all that  
useful ... Tv mode and manual focus works better.


Godfrey

Re: Best test subject for *isDS JPEG compression testing?

[Derby Chang]

Glen wrote:

Does anyone have suggestions for an "ideal test subject" that I can 
use to evaluate how much compression I can tolerate in my JPEG files? 
Sometimes I shoot in JPEG mode to get more exposures on my card. A lot 
of the time, I can't tell any significant different difference between 
different JPEG compression modes. What type of subject would highlight 
the various JPEG flaws and limitations the most?



thanks,
Glen




A very simple graphic image, say of a chequerboard. You can easily spot 
the JPEG artifacts near the edges if the compression is high.


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RE: Uncountable Digi Models

[Bob W]

Leica used to as well. Look at all the different models and designations of
the screwmount cameras, with sometimes only very minor differences. 


--
Cheers,
 Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 September 2005 23:09
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Uncountable Digi Models
> 
> 
> On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Christian wrote:
> 
> > .. Film cameras never had such minor changes done over their 
> > lifespans. ..
> 
> Actually, a lot of film cameras did but the manufacturers 
> never used to ballyhoo every minor tweak with a new model 
> designation or a big to-do. 

Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There

[Derby Chang]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it 
play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet.

Paul

Aha, googled. I-photo is Mac. What do people use for PCs? At the George Lepp 
workshop I went to many long months ago, he actually recommended Powerpoint. I 
have an older version which I don't think does the things his did. He showed 
two digital slide shows. They were cool. (I think he had a digital projector 
for the crowd.)


What do people use for the PC to create a digital slide show? (From digital 
camera, or scanned stuff.)


Marnie aka Doe 



 



I use Nerovision Express (part of the Nero Burning ROM suite). Very 
simple, but works well.


D

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*istDS Frame Counter Limited to 999 frames?

[Glen]

Has anyone ever set their camera to a combination of resolution and JPEG 
compression that should result in more than 999 frames on a single 1Gig card?


That's the most my camera ever indicates as being available. Is it actually 
possible to record more than 999 frames?


If anyone has done this, how does the frame counter respond after the 999th 
frame?



thanks,
Glen

Best test subject for *isDS JPEG compression testing?

[Glen]

Does anyone have suggestions for an "ideal test subject" that I can use to 
evaluate how much compression I can tolerate in my JPEG files? Sometimes I 
shoot in JPEG mode to get more exposures on my card. A lot of the time, I 
can't tell any significant different difference between different JPEG 
compression modes. What type of subject would highlight the various JPEG 
flaws and limitations the most?



thanks,
Glen

Re: Raving... :)

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the tip, I'm going to check it out.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, September 16, 2005, 2:23:49 PM, you wrote:

MR> OK, so I just went over to see what's new at Luminous-Landscape.com and
MR> find Mr Reichmann recommending a program called Photo to Movie. Looks
MR> interesting (and possibly useful for the digital video course I'm taking
MR> at the moment). So I go to their web page and download the trial
MR> version. Within 15 minutes I've paid for the full version and a couple
MR> of hours later I'm still giggling. This program rocks! You can use it to
MR> make movies from your photos (as the name implies). Lots of useful
MR> options to keep it (and your movies) from getting boring and a
MR> magnificently easy-to-use interface. Top-notch stuff and it's only
MR> $49.95! Or $29.95 for download only (they don't mail you the full boxed
MR> package & CD)

MR> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/photo2movie.shtml
MR> http://www.lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php

MR> Truly brilliant stuff.
 
 

RE: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Glen]

At 04:23 PM 9/16/2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi Glen,

I think I can answer your question.

Turn on the camera, hit Menu.  You'll see a choice for Image Tone - it's
the topmost choice.  Choose it and then use the right arrow to bring up the
options.  Choose the lower option, hit OK, and there y'are - Natural Color
Mode.

Move the sharpness down a notch, you might do the same for contrast and
saturation, and then make those adjustments in your photo editing software.


Thanks, Shell.

Somehow I overlooked that. For someone like me, who has been switching 
between the various exposure modes a lot, it's really disappointing that 
all these settings can get overridden, depending on the exposure mode. If 
only Pentax would make a firmware update that eliminated this unwanted 
behavior. With things switching around like this, "behind my back". I'll 
have to forget about using most of the exposure modes. I don't want my 
color saturation and other settings fluctuating during a shoot, just 
because I switched exposure modes.


take care,
Glen

Re: Bought one: Was OT: 1, 2 or 3

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Good stuff. That is possibly my next laptop too, although I might go  
for a 12" for portability's sake.


The AirPort base station business is pretty simple really, but  
whenever you touch networking devices the number of funky acronyms  
and such expands to fill available mental space. ;-)


Godfrey

On Sep 16, 2005, at 7:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well after looking at the Apple.ca store...AGAIN... and a call to  
Apple about one of the

bundled programs, i bought the ibook 14".
...
Read up a bit on the Apple wireless base and modems etc.
Sounds confusing but i'm sure its not.

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Christian wrote:

.. Film cameras never had such minor changes done over their  
lifespans. ..


Actually, a lot of film cameras did but the manufacturers never used  
to ballyhoo every minor tweak with a new model designation or a big  
to-do. For instance, very few people seem to be aware that the Nikon  
FM2n was almost completely overhauled in detail somewhere around  
1992 ... they did a big rework on materials choices and manufacturing  
process for a lot of the film transport, shutter and mirror bits to  
improve longevity, reduce lubrication needs, etc etc. Nikon never  
said much about it.


Nowadays, they market new models like consumer disposables. It's a  
pain in the butt.


Godfrey

Re: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Glen wrote:


The key is Natural color mode and Adobe RGB color space. Natural
color mode *ONLY* works in P, Tv, Av, and M exposure modes; Auto
Picture and all the program presets override the setting and go to
Vivid. The combination of these two settings give a broader gamut and
much more modest contrast, less loss of imaging quality from
highlight sharpening erosion and gamut clipping.


I can't find an option to set natural or vivid color mode. Is it  
permanently set by Pentax for the various modes?


Record Menu, first item "Image Tone". By default, it's on  
"Vivid" (brighter colored icon). The alternative is "Natural" (pastel  
colored icon). If you set it and then use any of the program preset  
modes (Auto Picture, etc) the camera will default it back to Vivid,  
although the option will stay set. It will take effect in P, Tv, Av  
and M modes.


I've been keeping my DS set to Adobe color space lately. Is there  
any circumstance where sRGB would be a better choice?


sRGB is a better pick if you're looking to take JPEGs directly from  
the camera and print them without any editing at all, typically  
through PictBridge or at a printing kiosk. Otherwise, A-RGB is much  
better for anything you're going to edit in Photoshop. (If you're  
saving in RAW mode, it's inconsequential as you'll tell the RAW  
conversion processor what output colorspace to render to.)


As for the saturation, sharpness, and contrast settings -- these  
are all set to their midpoint. Should I be using different settings  
for better JPEG quality?


If you're saving in JPEG format, you have to consider these  
parameters to be just as important as ISO, aperture, and shutter time  
to get the best results. They don't have to be tweaked as much or as  
often, but they do need to be adjusted to accommodate wide variations  
in contrast and light levels. White balance, too.


That's one of the reasons RAW is so much preferable: you can pretty  
much ignore settings other than ISO, aperture, shutter time and focus  
because you'll control the rendering parameters after you take home  
the exposures.


Godfrey

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Barry Rice wrote:

Thanks for the speedy comments re: sensitivity. So my follow-up  
question
(and then I'll try to get some work done today!)is there any  
reciprocity
failure issues with digital detectors? I'd think the detection was  
fairly
linear with long integrations (exposures), but I'm guessing that  
once those
little ccd buckets start to fill up with electrons, they might  
start losing

linearity.


With extended exposure times, you'll ultimately see an increase in  
noise and any marginally 'hot' pixels become visible. Noise Reduction  
does a good job of masking the hot spots, however.


Godfrey

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Cotty]

>>IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
>
>If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...

I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
that...
 
>>>
>>>Yes.  Enough of the wisecracks.
>> 
>> 
>> Sadly, I doubt we've reached the end of them yet.
>>  
>>  
>Time for me to split, then.

Yeah, must dash - I'm still at the orifice.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Optio 50 clone

[Dario Bonazza]

I forgot to report that the original model should be the Premier DC5345.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: Optio 50 clone



I think such stuff is made by Premier, here in Ricoh designation:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05091602ricoh_capliorr530.asp

Has anyone noticed other clones of the Optio 50?

Dario Bonazza

Re: OT - PAW - Tumbling

[Cotty]

On 16/9/05, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I can't comment on Cotty's shot because I get a "file not found" error :-(

My web hoster was switching servers during Friday. It's back up now Wendy.



HTH




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Optio 50 clone

[Dario Bonazza]

I think such stuff is made by Premier, here in Ricoh designation:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0509/05091602ricoh_capliorr530.asp

Has anyone noticed other clones of the Optio 50?

Dario Bonazza

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Cotty]

On 16/9/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

>must still be poopy :-)

GROSS




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Bought one: Was OT: 1, 2 or 3

[Cotty]

On 16/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>Read up a bit on the Apple wireless base and modems etc.
>Sounds confusing but i'm sure its not.

Nice one mate! Any problems, give Godders a shout ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: Another quiz!

[Cotty]

On 16/9/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty beat ya to it!  

Shut up big-nose!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek) wrote:

>Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise & throat) doctors, and dentists 
>use Endoscope orally. 

How well I know: The ruler lying on my desk (which my dear SO got free
at some medical conference or the other) is decorated with photos of the
inside of someone's esophagus in various stages of disease/health. Quite
the conversation piece.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[Christian]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Sherburne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Pentax Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Uncountable Digi Models




Perhaps we're seeing the intersection of more disposable income than ever
before, the urgent need to record our lives for posterity, and the 
cheapest

technology solutions ever.

It's a unique situation in human history, and it seems folks are taking 
full

advantage of it.

And "innovations" are rapid.  Even if it means an LCD screen is .1" bigger 
for example, it warrants a new model designation.


Film cameras never had such minor changes done over their lifespans. 
Digicams are getting minor upgrades all the time.


Christian 

Budapest For a Day

[Shel Belinkoff]

A couple of  friends will be in Budapest for a day later this month. 
Anyone here have any recommendations for places to visit, great
restaurants, etc?  They will only have a short time to explore the city,
unfortunately.

Shel

Raving... :)

[Mark Roberts]

OK, so I just went over to see what's new at Luminous-Landscape.com and
find Mr Reichmann recommending a program called Photo to Movie. Looks
interesting (and possibly useful for the digital video course I'm taking
at the moment). So I go to their web page and download the trial
version. Within 15 minutes I've paid for the full version and a couple
of hours later I'm still giggling. This program rocks! You can use it to
make movies from your photos (as the name implies). Lots of useful
options to keep it (and your movies) from getting boring and a
magnificently easy-to-use interface. Top-notch stuff and it's only
$49.95! Or $29.95 for download only (they don't mail you the full boxed
package & CD)

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/photo2movie.shtml
http://www.lqgraphics.com/software/phototomovie.php

Truly brilliant stuff.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[mike wilson]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


There seems to be a HUGE number of digital camera brands and thousands, if
not billions  of models.  I don't recall there ever being so many film
camera brands and models.  Is my memory failing?

Are all these digi models really needed?  It seems that the difference
between some models is hard to ascertain.  I've never been able to keep up
with all the optio models, for example.


The joy of the consumer society.  The funny thing is that it ends up 
reducing many consumers' choice.


mike

Re: Uncountable Digi Models

[Tim Sherburne]

Perhaps we're seeing the intersection of more disposable income than ever
before, the urgent need to record our lives for posterity, and the cheapest
technology solutions ever.

It's a unique situation in human history, and it seems folks are taking full
advantage of it.

t



On 9/16/05 13:49, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> There seems to be a HUGE number of digital camera brands and thousands, if
> not billions  of models.  I don't recall there ever being so many film
> camera brands and models.  Is my memory failing?
> 
> Are all these digi models really needed?  It seems that the difference
> between some models is hard to ascertain.  I've never been able to keep up
> with all the optio models, for example.
> 
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[mike wilson]

Mark Roberts wrote:


mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Mark Roberts wrote:



Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.


If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...


I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
that...



Yes.  Enough of the wisecracks.



Sadly, I doubt we've reached the end of them yet.
 
 

Time for me to split, then.

Uncountable Digi Models

[Shel Belinkoff]

There seems to be a HUGE number of digital camera brands and thousands, if
not billions  of models.  I don't recall there ever being so many film
camera brands and models.  Is my memory failing?

Are all these digi models really needed?  It seems that the difference
between some models is hard to ascertain.  I've never been able to keep up
with all the optio models, for example.


Shel

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Christian]

- Original Message - 
From: "Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: For the Collector who needs one of everything.


Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise & throat) doctors, and 
dentists use Endoscope orally.




Hopefully they wipe them off a little after the previous patient.

Christian

RE: DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Glen,

I think I can answer your question.

Turn on the camera, hit Menu.  You'll see a choice for Image Tone - it's
the topmost choice.  Choose it and then use the right arrow to bring up the
options.  Choose the lower option, hit OK, and there y'are - Natural Color
Mode.

Move the sharpness down a notch, you might do the same for contrast and
saturation, and then make those adjustments in your photo editing software.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Glen 

> I can't find an option to set natural or vivid color mode. Is it 
> permanently set by Pentax for the various modes?

> As for the saturation, sharpness, and contrast settings -- these are all 
> set to their midpoint. Should I be using different settings for better
JPEG 
> quality?

RE: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Derek]

Actually, Gastroenterologist, ENT (ear noise & throat) doctors, and dentists 
use Endoscope orally. 

Derek



> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> > Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>>IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
> >>
> >>If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
> > that...
> >   
> >  
> Yes.  Enough of the wisecracks.
> 

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Mark Roberts]

mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
>>>
>>>If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...
>> 
>> I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
>> that...
>>  
>Yes.  Enough of the wisecracks.

Sadly, I doubt we've reached the end of them yet.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS

[Tim Sherburne]

On 9/16/05 12:05, Fred wrote:

>> measurbating
> 
>> Like parrots in a bordello... ;-)
> 
> OK, would you wanna explain these, Godfrey ?
> 
> Fred

I'm not sure where Godfrey was coming from, but the second comment reminds
me of this parrot-in-the-bordello joke (it's not too risqué):

> A woman was looking around in a pet shop and spotted a large parrot with
> beautiful green and blue feathers.
> She had always wanted to own a parrot but was well aware that she could not
> afford a bird of this type, as it would cost a small fortune.
> 
> Out of curiosity she asked the store owner how much the parrot cost. She could
> barely believe her ears when the pet shop owner said "fifty dollars ma'am."
> 
> The woman asked why such an expensive bird was being sold for such a small
> amount. The shopkeeper replied that the parrot had been living in a bordello
> and was known to make some rather off color remarks, so he was trying to get
> rid of it. 
> 
> Realizing that she would never see another opportunity like this to buy a
> parrot, she paid the man fifty dollars and took the bird home.
> 
> She set the cage down in the corner of the kitchen and removed the sheet that
> covered the cage.
> 
> The parrot looked around the room and then back at the woman and squawked "New
> house, new madam." While the comment surprised her, she didn't find it too
> offensive, and ultimately decided it was rather amusing.
> 
> In the afternoon, the woman's two teenage daughters came home from High
> School. They were led to the kitchen by their mother to see the parrot.
> 
> The parrot squawked "New house, new madam, new whores." At first all three
> were quite offended but eventually they were laughing together about their
> rude parrot. 
> 
> Later in the afternoon, the woman's husband Keith came home from work. His
> wife and daughters dragged him into the kitchen to see their rude parrot.
> 
> The parrot squawked "New house, new madam, new whores, Hi Keith."

t

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[mike wilson]

Mark Roberts wrote:


Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.


If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...



I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
that...
  
 

Yes.  Enough of the wisecracks.

Re: another small enablement

[mike wilson]

John Forbes wrote:
I know the feeling.  I counted up my Pentax lens horde the other day 
and  it came to thirty, plus a Vivitar Series 1.  of course, most never 
get  used, so I need to gird my loins, grab my lenses, and get 'em onto 
Ebay.


John


Thirty's not a horde.  It's barely a war party.

8-)



On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:39:56 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I knuckled under and ordered an  
FA50/1.4 when I received the notification from B&H last week. It 
arrived  yesterday. It has a nicer finish than the F50/1.7 and seems 
to focus  more smoothly, although it, like the F50/1.7, isn't the best 
AF focuser  in very low light (the FA35/2 is faster and more positive).


Anyway, I'm glad I got it. I'm adding the F50/1.7 to my "for sale" 
list  now. I've got 8-9 'extra' lenses to sell.


Godfrey

DS Color Settings (was: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)

[Glen]

At 01:43 PM 9/16/2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


The key is Natural color mode and Adobe RGB color space. Natural
color mode *ONLY* works in P, Tv, Av, and M exposure modes; Auto
Picture and all the program presets override the setting and go to
Vivid. The combination of these two settings give a broader gamut and
much more modest contrast, less loss of imaging quality from
highlight sharpening erosion and gamut clipping.

Godfrey


I can't find an option to set natural or vivid color mode. Is it 
permanently set by Pentax for the various modes?


I've been keeping my DS set to Adobe color space lately. Is there any 
circumstance where sRGB would be a better choice?


As for the saturation, sharpness, and contrast settings -- these are all 
set to their midpoint. Should I be using different settings for better JPEG 
quality?



thanks,
Glen

Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS

[P. J. Alling]

Parrots?

John Forbes wrote:


You've obviously led a sheltered life, Fred!  :-)

John

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:05:56 +0100, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


measurbating




Like parrots in a bordello... ;-)



OK, would you wanna explain these, Godfrey ?

Fred












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	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS

[John Forbes]

You've obviously led a sheltered life, Fred!  :-)

John

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:05:56 +0100, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


measurbating



Like parrots in a bordello... ;-)


OK, would you wanna explain these, Godfrey ?

Fred









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Re: PESO -- Teenager in training.

[Glen]

At 12:42 PM 9/16/2005, P. J. Alling wrote:


Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html


I liked the framing of this image. The only thing that bugs me a little is 
the awkward posing of her ring finger. Otherwise, I like this image.


take care,
Glen

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[P. J. Alling]

#2?

Fred wrote:


IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
   



If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...

Fred


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Fred]

> I've found that from ISO 200 - 800 the noise levels are low enough that 
> you can pick you ISO for the
> Shutter speed F stop combination you want.  At 1600 noise becomes 
> noticeable, and at 3200 noise is
> objectionable for any type of smooth subject matter.

I've only had my DS for a short while now, but I did try some tests to see
"what I could get away with" for higher ISO settings (I almost wanted to
say "ASA settings", which would have given me away as the old film dinosaur
that I still am - ).  I found pretty much the same as P.J., and I was
pleasantly surprised at the 800 setting, which was almost as good as the
400 setting (which was much like the 200 setting).  Only at 1600 did I have
to really start to think about noise...

Fred

Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Mark Roberts]

Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.
>
>If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...

I don't think Pentax appreciates being made the butt of a joke like
that...
  
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[P. J. Alling]

As exposure lengthens the sensor heats up.  As the sensor heats up noise 
increases.


Barry Rice wrote:


Hey Folks,

Thanks for the speedy comments re: sensitivity. So my follow-up question
(and then I'll try to get some work done today!)is there any reciprocity
failure issues with digital detectors? I'd think the detection was fairly
linear with long integrations (exposures), but I'm guessing that once those
little ccd buckets start to fill up with electrons, they might start losing
linearity.

Can you tell I was trained as an astronomer? Geek alert!

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 



 




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Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[P. J. Alling]

The D and the Ds have the same sensor and very similar characteristics 
for all intents and purposes so
I have no compunctions about answering from experience. 

I've found that from ISO 200 - 800 the noise levels are low enough that 
you can pick you ISO for the
Shutter speed F stop combination you want.  At 1600 noise becomes 
noticeable, and at 3200 noise is

objectionable for any type of smooth subject matter.

Barry Rice wrote:

Hey Folks, 


I'm now learning how to think "digitally" with my *ist-DS. The thing that
perplexes me is setting the sensitivity. I'm used to shooting with Velvia
since minimal grain and nice saturation are important to me. What
sensitivity do people use? I'm no stranger to taking 15 second exposures to
maximize my DOF in my botanical fieldwork, but I'm intrigued at the notion
of cranking up the sensitivity on the camera to take big DOF images with a
short exposure. Could it be that I don't have to worry about the wind
anymore? At what point would I expect to see noise? I don't see this
addressed in the manual, except in broad terms. 


Barry

P.S. Please forgive me if I missed an obvious paragraph in the manual. I
*do* read manuals carefully---let's just say I'm excited about this new
camera!

B

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 



 




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Re: SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Fred]

> IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.

If it's not #1, it's certainly "right up there"...

Fred

Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS

[Fred]

> measurbating

> Like parrots in a bordello... ;-)

OK, would you wanna explain these, Godfrey ?

Fred

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Shel Belinkoff]

Be sure to install the updated firmware ... I understand it helps with long
exposures.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Barry Rice 


> Thanks for the speedy comments re: sensitivity. So my follow-up question
> (and then I'll try to get some work done today!)is there any
reciprocity
> failure issues with digital detectors? I'd think the detection was fairly
> linear with long integrations (exposures), but I'm guessing that once
those
> little ccd buckets start to fill up with electrons, they might start
losing
> linearity.
>
> Can you tell I was trained as an astronomer? Geek alert!

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Barry Rice]

Hey Folks,

Thanks for the speedy comments re: sensitivity. So my follow-up question
(and then I'll try to get some work done today!)is there any reciprocity
failure issues with digital detectors? I'd think the detection was fairly
linear with long integrations (exposures), but I'm guessing that once those
little ccd buckets start to fill up with electrons, they might start losing
linearity.

Can you tell I was trained as an astronomer? Geek alert!

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 

Re: PESO -- Teenager in training.

[John Forbes]

I like it.  Just enough of the face is included to capture the  
expression/mood completely.


John

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:42:48 +0100, P. J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html

Technical Info:

Pentax *ist-D ISO 400 @ 1/125sec  (Built in Flash)
smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6AL[IF]  @ 200mm f5.6





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Re: It's Here and It Works!

[John Forbes]

You're right, Mr Forbes does.

Vive la differance.

Mr Forbes



On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:40:22 +0100, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi,

When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like  
the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances for  
much
of what I photograph.  That's why it's so important that I fully  
understand

the camera and its idiosyncrasies.

Shel  


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes


It depends.  Another difference between using digital and film is  
that  digi gives you instant feedback, in the form of the image and  
the  histogram, so getting it right first time isn't always as  
important as it is with film.
I'm with Shel on this one. Much of what I photograph can't be repeated.  
The only time that instant feedback helps me is when I'm doing a series  
of "mug shots" but mostly I capture moments in the activities of people.  
Presumably Mr Forbes normally pursues a different area of photography.










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SV: PESO -- Teenager in training.

[Jens Bladt]

Very nice shot. Kind dull, though. I'd consider giving it some "auto
levels".
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. september 2005 18:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO -- Teenager in training.


Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html

Technical Info:

Pentax *ist-D ISO 400 @ 1/125sec  (Built in Flash)
smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6AL[IF]  @ 200mm f5.6

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Run in circles, (scream and shout).

RE: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Jens Bladt]

All of them! I prefere 200ASA, but I often use 400ASA too.
For concert shots and available light indoors I use 800-1600 ASA - somtimes
even 3200 ASA, but the latter will often require using Neat Image for noice
reduction, which means loosing sharpness.
Regards

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. september 2005 19:45
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity


Barry Rice wrote:
> Hey Folks,
>
> I'm now learning how to think "digitally" with my *ist-DS. The thing that
> perplexes me is setting the sensitivity. I'm used to shooting with Velvia
> since minimal grain and nice saturation are important to me. What
> sensitivity do people use? I'm no stranger to taking 15 second exposures
to
> maximize my DOF in my botanical fieldwork, but I'm intrigued at the notion
> of cranking up the sensitivity on the camera to take big DOF images with a
> short exposure. Could it be that I don't have to worry about the wind
> anymore? At what point would I expect to see noise? I don't see this
> addressed in the manual, except in broad terms.
>
> Barry
>
> P.S. Please forgive me if I missed an obvious paragraph in the manual. I
> *do* read manuals carefully---let's just say I'm excited about this new
> camera!
>
> B
>
> Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
> Invasive Species Specialist
> Invasive Species Initiative
> The Nature Conservancy
> V: 530-754-8891
> http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu

The lowest ISO possible would normally be your best choise. I'd bump it
up to ISO 400 to shorten exposure, but not beyond that for best results
(That said, I've gotten good results already at 800).

For long exposures, turning on noise reduction and shooting at 200 would
be the ideal setup.

Noise will show up starting at 800 and becomes objectionable at 3200
(1600 looks alot like 1600 film, kinda grainy).

-Adam

Re: Some Posting Suggestions

[graywolf]

Actually I can kind of agree with you. I was removing some no longer 
used software from my computer and the uninstall program of one of them 
must have removed something essential, as it would not boot anymore. So 
I tried reloading the OS (damned MickeyShit Software), it refused to 
load with the original serial number. So I found a crack program, and 
upgraded the OS for free at the same time. Anyone got an idea about what 
a hassle "activation" is when you are reloading 20 programs or so? 
Anyway I did that using Win98 on another partition. Now I can not  boot 
Win98 (bootmgr claims there is a file missing) even though it booted 
fine before SP2.


I have always figured I could load the OS and software from the CD's and 
have not bothered to back that partition up (I keep data on another 
partition that is backed up now and then). But with the hassle of  
"activation" I guess I will back it up as soon as I get everything set 
back to the way I like it. I am getting to the point where I can not 
remember what I did a year ago anyway.


Anyhoo, I have not used Outlook Express in a couple of years but I seem 
to remember that you can set it to thread messages. I am sure you can 
set it to sort by subject. You have no excuses, sir.


Tom Reese wrote:


Sorry about the double posting. Like I said, I hate these &%$&ing things.

Tom Reese


 

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Barry Rice wrote:

I'm now learning how to think "digitally" with my *ist-DS. The  
thing that
perplexes me is setting the sensitivity. I'm used to shooting with  
Velvia

since minimal grain and nice saturation are important to me. What
sensitivity do people use? I'm no stranger to taking 15 second  
exposures to
maximize my DOF in my botanical fieldwork, but I'm intrigued at the  
notion
of cranking up the sensitivity on the camera to take big DOF images  
with a

short exposure. Could it be that I don't have to worry about the wind
anymore? At what point would I expect to see noise? I don't see  
this

addressed in the manual, except in broad terms.


ISO 200 will always return the best quality as it is the 'native'  
sensitivity of the sensor, all other settings are going to increase  
noise and decrease dynamic range by some amount. However, in  
practical terms, I find settings up to ISO 800 produces extremely  
good image quality, ISO 1600 gives good quality, and ISO 3200 is  
usable in some circumstances where speed and capturing the image at  
all is more important than finest quality rendering.


If you're after the finest quality rendering, you must store  
exposures in RAW format and do the post-processing to RGB yourself,  
tailoring the process to the particular scene dynamics. This becomes  
more and more important as ISO setting is raised.


In general, the rule of thumb is to use ISO 200 when quality matters,  
and higher ISO as situations require. I find the difference between  
200 and 400 to be slight, so I set the 'ISO Sensitivity Warning'  
custom function to light the ISO reminder when the camera is set to  
ISO 800 or higher, and use 200-400 interchangeably.


Of course, the bottom line can only be obtained by doing some testing  
yourself. Only you can decide what sensitivity and exposure  
combination produces the results that satisfy your aesthetic or  
technical needs.


Godfrey

Re: Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Adam Maas]

Barry Rice wrote:
Hey Folks, 


I'm now learning how to think "digitally" with my *ist-DS. The thing that
perplexes me is setting the sensitivity. I'm used to shooting with Velvia
since minimal grain and nice saturation are important to me. What
sensitivity do people use? I'm no stranger to taking 15 second exposures to
maximize my DOF in my botanical fieldwork, but I'm intrigued at the notion
of cranking up the sensitivity on the camera to take big DOF images with a
short exposure. Could it be that I don't have to worry about the wind
anymore? At what point would I expect to see noise? I don't see this
addressed in the manual, except in broad terms. 


Barry

P.S. Please forgive me if I missed an obvious paragraph in the manual. I
*do* read manuals carefully---let's just say I'm excited about this new
camera!

B

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 


The lowest ISO possible would normally be your best choise. I'd bump it 
up to ISO 400 to shorten exposure, but not beyond that for best results 
(That said, I've gotten good results already at 800).


For long exposures, turning on noise reduction and shooting at 200 would 
be the ideal setup.


Noise will show up starting at 800 and becomes objectionable at 3200 
(1600 looks alot like 1600 film, kinda grainy).


-Adam

Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The report that caused a lot of hubbub about JPEG was Phil Askey's  
review of the DS on DPReview.com. His test procedure set the camera  
to its defaults in Auto Picture or Program mode, which means  
"Vivid" (highly saturated) color rendering, a high degree of  
sharpening and contrast, sRGB colorspace. This degrades image quality  
when you're measurbating and comparing image quality at the  
pixel:pixel level, other DSLR manufacturer defaults are often a bit  
softer, but Pentax spiked up the defaults for the intended consumer/ 
snapshooter audience who mostly output to 4x6 prints. All other  
reports I've seen about "JPEG problems" were directly traceable to  
this DPReview report.


Like parrots in a bordello... ;-)

I normally save exposures in RAW format. When I do use the in-camera  
JPEG rendering, I set Adobe RGB colorspace and "Natural" color, ***  
quality. The default neutral settings for sharpness, saturation and  
contrast are fine for average subject scenes, and should be adjusted  
for contrasty or flat lighting conditions per usual in-camera JPEG  
controls. I find that I often want to reduce contrast setting to  
improve post-processing options, and I rarely want more than neutral  
saturation as otherwise I run into clipping too easily.


The key is Natural color mode and Adobe RGB color space. Natural  
color mode *ONLY* works in P, Tv, Av, and M exposure modes; Auto  
Picture and all the program presets override the setting and go to  
Vivid. The combination of these two settings give a broader gamut and  
much more modest contrast, less loss of imaging quality from  
highlight sharpening erosion and gamut clipping.


Godfrey


On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:



What kind of settings are you using for jpegs?
I'd like to try them on my DS.



There was never a problem with the DS' JPEG rendering that I have
been aware of. Any so-called problem is more a matter of the default
settings than of the rendering. The default settings do not, in my
opinion, make the best quality JPEGs.



Is there any insight knowledge whether the poor jpeg rendering was
improved, too? I guess we'll have to wait for the first samples...


The DS has been discontinued in favour of the DS2. Pricing  
should be

identical. There's very little difference between the DS and DS2,
only the larger LCD and Auto ISO.

Re: It's Here and It Works!

[Bruce Dayton]

Since I shoot a lot of weddings, I fall into the same category for
many shots.  I have found however, that you can take a dummy shot
ahead of the real thing with the same lighting, when it is tricky to
figure out and be ready for the real shot.  For that, instant review
is useful.  Most of the time the lighting doesn't change that rapidly.
So if you were walking along the street, you could meter and take a
shot and then chimp to get some general characteristics before
finalizing your settings.  This helps you to be ready for when the
shot comes.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Friday, September 16, 2005, 9:40:22 AM, you wrote:

ERNR> Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like the
>>Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances for much
>>of what I photograph.  That's why it's so important that I fully understand
>>the camera and its idiosyncrasies.
>>
>>Shel 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: John Forbes
>>>
>>>
>>>It depends.  Another difference between using digital and film is that
>>>digi gives you instant feedback, in the form of the image and the  
>>>histogram, so getting it right first time isn't always as important as it is
>>>
>>> with film.  
>>>
ERNR> I'm with Shel on this one. Much of what I photograph can't be repeated.
ERNR> The only time that instant feedback helps me is when I'm doing a series
ERNR> of "mug shots" but mostly I capture moments in the activities of people.
ERNR> Presumably Mr Forbes normally pursues a different area of photography.

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Jack Davis]

I'm not offended, but I sure hope you didn't spoil the
auction for me. :-))

Jack

--- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I apologize in advance to anyone offended about
> posting current ebay 
> auctions.
> Based on the auction restrictions I doubt anyone on
> the list would be 
> bidding anyway...
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7546772269&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
> 
> -- 
> When you're worried or in doubt, 
>   Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> 
> 




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Selecting the digital sensitivity

[Barry Rice]

Hey Folks, 

I'm now learning how to think "digitally" with my *ist-DS. The thing that
perplexes me is setting the sensitivity. I'm used to shooting with Velvia
since minimal grain and nice saturation are important to me. What
sensitivity do people use? I'm no stranger to taking 15 second exposures to
maximize my DOF in my botanical fieldwork, but I'm intrigued at the notion
of cranking up the sensitivity on the camera to take big DOF images with a
short exposure. Could it be that I don't have to worry about the wind
anymore? At what point would I expect to see noise? I don't see this
addressed in the manual, except in broad terms. 

Barry

P.S. Please forgive me if I missed an obvious paragraph in the manual. I
*do* read manuals carefully---let's just say I'm excited about this new
camera!

B

Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 

Re: It's Here and It Works!

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Please: either top post or bottom post. Mixing the two styles is  
difficult to follow.


The ability to use the LCD to evaluate exposure even if when actually  
shooting people and situations you only have a one-shot chance. I  
often take a few test exposures and take a quick look at them, look  
at the histograms, if the lighting is variable or difficult, make  
some adjustments, so I know what settings to use when the real  
moments are in play.


This does not disparage the notion of fully understanding a camera  
and its idiosyncracies/controls so as to be able to pick it up  
'running' and get great shots immediately. "The better you know a  
particular piece of equipment, the less significant its flaws  
are." ;-) It's why, this year, I have taken virtually every  
photograph I've made with the *ist DS. I'm getting to know it and the  
lenses I've bought for it very well, much like I knew my Nikons and  
Leicas in the past. I use it in much the same way now: it's an  
extension of my hand and eye, not a device to come to grips with.


Godfrey

On Sep 16, 2005, at 9:40 AM, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
I'm with Shel on this one. Much of what I photograph can't be  
repeated. The only time that instant feedback helps me is when I'm  
doing a series of "mug shots" but mostly I capture moments in the  
activities of people. Presumably Mr Forbes normally pursues a  
different area of photography.



Shel Belinkoff wrote:
When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it  
like the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances  
for much
of what I photograph.  That's why it's so important that I fully  
understand

the camera and its idiosyncrasies.


From: John Forbes
It depends.  Another difference between using digital and film is  
that  digi gives you instant feedback, in the form of the image  
and the  histogram, so getting it right first time isn't always  
as important as it is

with film.

RE: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Malcolm Smith]

P. J. Alling wrote:

> I apologize in advance to anyone offended about posting 
> current ebay auctions.
> Based on the auction restrictions I doubt anyone on the list 
> would be bidding anyway...
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7546772269&;
ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

His eBay ID put me off :-(

Malcolm

Re: It's Here and It Works!

[E.R.N. Reed]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Hi,

When I finally get to feel comfortable with the camera, and use it like the
Leicas and the Pentax film bodies, there are rarely second chances for much
of what I photograph.  That's why it's so important that I fully understand
the camera and its idiosyncrasies.

Shel 



 


[Original Message]
From: John Forbes


It depends.  Another difference between using digital and film is that  
digi gives you instant feedback, in the form of the image and the  
histogram, so getting it right first time isn't always as important as it is 

with film.  

I'm with Shel on this one. Much of what I photograph can't be repeated. 
The only time that instant feedback helps me is when I'm doing a series 
of "mug shots" but mostly I capture moments in the activities of people. 
Presumably Mr Forbes normally pursues a different area of photography.

PESO -- Teenager in training.

[P. J. Alling]

Teenager in Training.

http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_teintr.html

Technical Info:

Pentax *ist-D ISO 400 @ 1/125sec  (Built in Flash)
smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6AL[IF]  @ 200mm f5.6

--

When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).

SV: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Jens Bladt]

IFAIR the endoscope is currently the main source of income for Pentax.

Jens Bladt
Arkitekt MAA
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


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Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 16. september 2005 16:56
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: For the Collector who needs one of everything.


I apologize in advance to anyone offended about posting current ebay
auctions.
Based on the auction restrictions I doubt anyone on the list would be
bidding anyway...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7546772269&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:SS:US:1

--
When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: For the Collector who needs one of everything.

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 9/16/2005 7:53:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I apologize in advance to anyone offended about posting current ebay 
auctions.
Based on the auction restrictions I doubt anyone on the list would be 
bidding anyway...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7546772269&ssPageName=ADME:
B:SS:US:1
==
I was just reading (somewhere) that a lot of medical supplies for third world 
countries are bought on ebay. (Cheapness factor.)

Learn something new everyday.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

Re: It's Here and It Works!

[Adam Maas]

Barry Rice wrote:

Hey Folks,

Well, yesterday afternoon my *ist-DS arrived as well. Yee haw! I'll have to
contact buydig.com because the two batteries were not in the box. A minor
inconvenience, but still...

Last night I spent some time playing with the camera, of course. Since I
haven't gotten my memory cards yet, the camera is heavily crippled, and I
can't enter the shooting-memory-cards-Olympics, but (for this user at least,
familiar with SuperPrograms and ZX-5ns), the camera was VERY easy to get
around. I only made it through 1/4 of the manual, so I'm sure there's plenty
more to fiddle with.

Since I don't normally use zooms or AF, the 18-55 AF zoom that came with the
camera surprised me when I realized it had no aperture ring. But then I
discovered the little adjustment wheel on the camera body. Ah... I'll be
interested to see how this functions with my normal prime lenses with
aperture rings.

The little red boxes lighting up when focusing freak me out. They remind me
of those peripheral-vision tests you take at the eyedoctor. :)

Later!

Barry


Barry A. Rice, Ph.D.
Invasive Species Specialist
Invasive Species Initiative
The Nature Conservancy
V: 530-754-8891
http://tncweeds.ucdavis.edu 


Barry,

With any lens with an A setting, you'll need to set it at A and adjust 
aperture on the body. With older lenses, it's adjust aperture normally 
then hit the AE-lock.


-Adam