Re: PESO - not a skimmer
Hi, Its a lovely shot. Did you lie on the beach for it? If so you got wet? What type of equipment did you use? Cheers, Ronald Christian wrote: - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] So it's a Joisey bird! with the accent and everything! :-) I like it, especially with the inclusion of the reflection in the sand, that raises it to another level. Only wish would be for a more spectular light, but hey that'll be the next time. Thanks Ken. I actually exercised a seldom used skill of mine - patience :-) I waited for the waves to go out leaving just enough sheen in the sand for the reflection, while at the same time, waiting for a bird to get into the right position. Christian -Original Message- From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-42 you can click it to make the image slightly larger.
Re: PAW - Cave Stream
Thanks David, I might visit the place on my next trip to South island, Cheers, Ronald David Mann wrote: On Dec 12, 2005, at 11:28 PM, Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Wonderful picture. You really got the rocks right. Is it some kind of limestone? Yes, it's limestone. The river has been gradually carving its way through for thousands of years. Where in Canterbury is it? It's about halfway between Christchurch and Arthurs Pass. Not far from Lake Pearson if you have a good map. Just follow highway 73. - Dave
Re: Critiques please
Hi Ralf, I kind of think its a cool picture. I like the stars from the lights. They ad to the mood. Cheers, Ronald Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: First tests with DRI. I'm not exactly happy with the result. I find it looks a tad dull, but all attempts to raise the contrast or saturation make things look even worse. http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1177031ref=sectionrefid=7 Oh, and did I say I hate those stars? Any suggestions other than repeating the shot with medium format which is what I'll do anyway on saturday? Ralf
Re: PAW - Cave Stream
Hi, I actually think it gies some extra depth to a picture when small river rocks are sharp. I howver liked the framing better of your first picture. Cheers, Ronald David Mann wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: What bothers me: Just doesn't appear sharp - the walls look very detailed, but soft and the stream rocks likewise - perhaps just need sharpening The walls were probably quite soft anyway... limestone is a bit like that and the texture isn't cracks. I guess it's some kind of weathering process. The lighting was also quite diffused (cloudy weather). Having said that I didn't put a huge amount of effort into sharpening. I masked out the edges of the stream rocks because of halos and didn't come back for a second, more subtle sharpening. Even though you worked hard on the hole, it still is pretty dark - Velvia was probably a wrong choice here It's quite subtle and is meant to still be quite dark. If I get the time I might put up the before version later. Don't look for detail in the middle of the hole - it's just an extra section on the right. You're correct about Velvia being a bad choice. I'm actually surprised I was able to get anything useful out of it at all. I do wish I'd used something else but that was what I had in the camera at the time. I can always go back and re-shoot. Here's another view from a medium format slide that I scanned a few months ago. The river rocks look a bit sharper, actually a little too sharp for my liking. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=6 Thanks for commenting. - Dave
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
I agree about Minolta software. I've been using the Scan Dual II since 2000 and the supplied software is junk. Vuescan works just great for me, I've been using it for years and thousands of scans so i know it very well now. If you want something that might be easier/slicker, do a google search for SilverFast. It's very good software, I had an eval copy that I tested extensively. However, I preferred Vuescan and found it to produce a better scan once learned. Godfrey On Dec 12, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:24:46 +0100, Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip get the Dimage IV, at least do yourself a favor and buy better software to run it. Minolta's software sucks. Assuming the software for the III and IV are comparable: Do you mean the UI sucks or the performance sucks? And what 'better software' do you recommend? I did try vuescan briefly, but I found the learning curve quite steep... -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Critiques please
On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: First tests with DRI. What is DRI? Oh, and did I say I hate those stars? Use a larger aperture. Any suggestions other than repeating the shot with medium format which is what I'll do anyway on saturday? You need to learn how to do image processing. I find it a good photo in this rendering, but one which could certainly be improved upon. Godfrey
Re: Outdated ektachrome???
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/13 Tue AM 05:39:26 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Outdated ektachrome??? I'm trying to decide if it's even worth shooting this stuff. I've got several rolls of 120 size Ektachrome dated 1999. It's all e6 professional and it's been kept refrigerated. Anybody have any experience shooting film this old, what the age effects are, how much, (percentage since the initial speed ratings are all different) to compensate for lost sensitivity, that sort of thing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've shot stuff about as old as this that had an unknown to me history. Although I'm sure there would be some differences to fresh film, I could not see anything that made me want to check it against new film. mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/13 Tue AM 05:50:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:09 AM, Cotty wrote: How about this...a Bugatti VeyronUK motoring journo Jeremy Clarkson tested one on the BBC's Top Gear prog recently and wouldn't shut up about it. Yeah but Clarkson won't shut up about anything, good or bad. I do enjoy his show... don't know when we'll get the next series (we're about a year behind). E, it's not his show. He's just a Sun journo that got a lucky break. His co-presenters regularly show him up for the grunting buffoon that he is. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
On 13/12/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: It's not their job to publish inspirational and joyful photos. The world is awash with that type of photo. What it's short of is good hard news photography. It's their job to provide a balanced view of good hard news. Speaking of which - here's some Breaking News: there were plenty of good hard news events happening all over the world that did not consist of a tsunami, hurricanes, and so on. But this is all pretty much irrelevant - publishing news pics is just like anything publishing most news magazines, it's totally subjective. They publish what they believe their readers want to see, and they're totally at liberty to do so. Personally, I have never had the desire to subscribe or buy Time magazine, and I have seen nothing recently that has changed my mind. The big news stories of the year have been the tsunami, hurricanes and so on, so that's what you'd expect to feature. What would people have said about balance if at the end of 2001 there had been nothing about the WTC attacks? There were other big news stories of the year (2005) that do not feature in the Time's 'Best Photos of the Year 2005', and I would expect them to feature those as well. regarding the WTC attacks, in a line-up of ten 'best' photos of the year, I would expect 1 pic. In a lineup of 24, maybe 2 or 3 pics. About 5000 people died in a landmark mass murder, and that is big news in the western world, but far more people die from starvation and poverty: about 1000 people per hour (source: UN World Food Programme). In the Time list, there is one photo (out of 24) [pic 21] illustrating a mother and child in war-torn Sudan. That's it. There are 6 (out of 24) shots of the aftermaths of hurricanes hitting America. For a publication purporting to cover world events, I consider this unbalanced. But what's new - Time readers are more interested in the hurricanes hitting their own shores than the thousands of tons of corpses piling up in a land many miles away, and who can blame them. I like good hard news photography, and I have no problem with a rash of death and destruction - that's reality and to me it's all news, good or bad. I do not distinguish between 'good' news or 'bad' news - that would be subjective and I avoid that. What i do distinguish between is a perceived unbalanced reporting that does not deliver a wide representative coverage of world events. I'm not saying Time is an example of this (I don't have nearly enough experience of its pages over the years), but what i do say is that based on its 'Best Photos of the Year' (2005) collection, as a whole, it sucks! Individually, most pics are first rate, and there are some incredibly good shots. FWIW, the only paper magazine i subscribe to is National Geographic. I'm afraid my sub to Foto8 has lapsed - I like it a lot but I find it too wordy for my taste, and not enough pics. Bring back the Illustrated London news! News-wise, I read the BBC web site. TV news wise, I view the BBC and Sky News, but to be honest they are both crap with self-centred agendas. The only decent (UK) news prog is Channel Four News, IMO. HTH, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Who's Not Using Digital
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I was thinking about this last night. It seems that most everyone on the list, at least from the usual gang of regular posters, has made the move to digital. Who hasn't, I haven't. But you knew that already. and who have no plans to do so in the near or foreseeable future? I don't have immediate plans to get a digital, either. Like I've said earlier, maybe I'll change my plan when they release the full-frame digital MZ-5n ;-) - Toralf
RE: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
mike wilson wrote: E, it's not his show. He's just a Sun journo that got a lucky break. His co-presenters regularly show him up for the grunting buffoon that he is. It's an amusing programme, which has very little relevance to the average motorist. Much of the time is spent on cars which cost north of £60,000. Even if I was a multi millionaire, I wouldn't spent that on a car. A vast amount must be staged in advance - the last bit of the chase to London by public transport, where they jumped on a 'night bus' to finish was a bit of a giveaway, as Metrobuses haven't been used in service for some time - a few left as trainers or with private companies for use in hire, films and adverts! James May comes across exactly as he did in his weekly motoring column in the 'Scotland On Sunday' newspaper some time back, before getting the boot from it by 'phone. Malcolm
Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
Sorry guys, just nailing my flag to the mast. i think Top Gear is brilliant, and one of the few TV progs that has me laughing out loud, and top=notch production values. The coverage of the cars is first rate, camera and editing. Clarkson and the others are just puffed egos but it works fine for me. The cars are the real stars. If i was a millionaire, there would be a ten car garage, and i wouldn't spend less than 60K ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:34:57 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree about Minolta software. I've been using the Scan Dual II since 2000 and the supplied software is junk. Vuescan works just great for me, I've been using it for years and thousands of scans so i know it very well now. If you want something that might be easier/slicker, do a google search for SilverFast. It's very good software, I had an eval copy that I tested extensively. However, I preferred Vuescan and found it to produce a better scan once learned. Hi Godfrey, Thanks for the tip on Silverfast, I'll check it out. Does anyone have links to something lika a Vuescan tutorial? Thanks in advance, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] The cars are the real stars. They are certainly more interesting than anything else on the programme. With the possible exception of putting people in a car to do a timed lap. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
OT: Top Notc^H^H^H^HGear [Was: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels]
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Cotty wrote: Sorry guys, just nailing my flag to the mast. i think Top Gear is brilliant, and one of the few TV progs that has me laughing out loud, and top=notch production values. The coverage of the cars is first rate, camera and editing. Clarkson and the others are just puffed egos but it works fine for me. Remember what Top Gear was like when Clarkson left? That's right, went to the dogs. So no, Mike, he did not get a break, he made current TG the success that it is all by himself. He's got exactly the right personality for Top Gear, a programme I eagerly watch week after week. Kostas (60K? As if I will ever bother to buy a new car)
Re: Critiques please
Hi Ralf, I think you can achieve what you want by using curves. Try adding some anchors along the straight line, and then pull the lower 1/4 a bit down. If you think that the adjustments affects the wrong range of tones, try moving the anchors up and down along the diagonal and play around until you find out what works for you. :-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: First tests with DRI. I'm not exactly happy with the result. I find it looks a tad dull, but all attempts to raise the contrast or saturation make things look even worse. http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1177031ref=sectionrefid=7 Oh, and did I say I hate those stars? Any suggestions other than repeating the shot with medium format which is what I'll do anyway on saturday? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Top Notc^H^H^H^HGear [Was: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/13 Tue AM 10:15:49 GMT To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Top Notc^H^H^H^HGear [Was: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels] On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Cotty wrote: Sorry guys, just nailing my flag to the mast. i think Top Gear is brilliant, and one of the few TV progs that has me laughing out loud, and top=notch production values. The coverage of the cars is first rate, camera and editing. Clarkson and the others are just puffed egos but it works fine for me. Remember what Top Gear was like when Clarkson left? That's right, went to the dogs. So no, Mike, he did not get a break, he made current TG the success that it is all by himself. He got the break by being allowed to inflict himself on us in the first place. Almost any car programme will be successful. I preferred it without him. He's got exactly the right personality for Top Gear, a programme I eagerly watch week after week. TG is nothing but personalities, through which the marvels of modern engineering shine like the reflections of the stripes on a hiviz vest in a flash photograph. Kostas (60K? As if I will ever bother to buy a new car) Me neither 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical problems for all European branches of Pentax. A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php Ciao Dario
Re: PAW - Cave Stream
HI, The texture isnt cracks - thats correct. I once upon a time was a geologist before rurning into earthquakes. The tecture of rock e.g. limestone, is due to - 1. The deposits (coral reef or whatever was the basis for the limestone) are layered and when squeezed deeper into the Earth they appear as layers in the rock. Another process which tranforms the rock is pressure - finally it gives marble - that may also give rise to layered texture. Weatheringbrings forward these phenomenas. Cracks can form around these surfaces - or due to temperature changes. And in some places like New Zealand due to so called tectonic movements which create earthquakes (faults and cracks is the result of earthquakes). Cheers, Ronald David Mann wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:56 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: What bothers me: Just doesn't appear sharp - the walls look very detailed, but soft and the stream rocks likewise - perhaps just need sharpening The walls were probably quite soft anyway... limestone is a bit like that and the texture isn't cracks. I guess it's some kind of weathering process. The lighting was also quite diffused (cloudy weather). Having said that I didn't put a huge amount of effort into sharpening. I masked out the edges of the stream rocks because of halos and didn't come back for a second, more subtle sharpening. Even though you worked hard on the hole, it still is pretty dark - Velvia was probably a wrong choice here It's quite subtle and is meant to still be quite dark. If I get the time I might put up the before version later. Don't look for detail in the middle of the hole - it's just an extra section on the right. You're correct about Velvia being a bad choice. I'm actually surprised I was able to get anything useful out of it at all. I do wish I'd used something else but that was what I had in the camera at the time. I can always go back and re-shoot. Here's another view from a medium format slide that I scanned a few months ago. The river rocks look a bit sharper, actually a little too sharp for my liking. http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=6 Thanks for commenting. - Dave
Re: Outdated ektachrome???
If it's been refrigerated, It's probably good. I've shot some very old ektachrome with good results. Paul On Dec 13, 2005, at 12:39 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm trying to decide if it's even worth shooting this stuff. I've got several rolls of 120 size Ektachrome dated 1999. It's all e6 professional and it's been kept refrigerated. Anybody have any experience shooting film this old, what the age effects are, how much, (percentage since the initial speed ratings are all different) to compensate for lost sensitivity, that sort of thing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Outdated ektachrome???
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Outdated ektachrome??? I'm trying to decide if it's even worth shooting this stuff. I've got several rolls of 120 size Ektachrome dated 1999. It's all e6 professional and it's been kept refrigerated. Anybody have any experience shooting film this old, what the age effects are, how much, (percentage since the initial speed ratings are all different) to compensate for lost sensitivity, that sort of thing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Shoot it. William Robb
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
Hi, It's the only negative/slide scanner I've ever used, so I can't provide any useful comparisons for you. However, I think that if you can afford a more expensive scanner you should go for it. If you do get the Dimage IV, at least do yourself a favor and buy better software to run it. Minolta's software sucks. IMHO both the scanner and the supplied software are quite capable (all essential tools are there - levels, curves, selective color correction, exposure control etc.) and resolution and dynamic range are comparable with much more expensive scanners (I do have some experience with scans from Linotype-Hell/Heildelberg/Crossfield drum scanners and from AgfaScan XY-15 high-end flatbed). All my recently posted PAWs were scanned on Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV using the supplied software (under MacOS X). Bedo.
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
:'( I had to go t them a couple of times and they always served me very well. Also their Belgian centre is/was established just next to my parents home so it was really easy for me. My ist-D and me would like to thank them ;) -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Outdated ektachrome???
Same here. If it's been refrigerated it should still be good for quite a while. Bob On Dec 13, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If it's been refrigerated, It's probably good. I've shot some very old ektachrome with good results. Paul On Dec 13, 2005, at 12:39 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm trying to decide if it's even worth shooting this stuff. I've got several rolls of 120 size Ektachrome dated 1999. It's all e6 professional and it's been kept refrigerated. Anybody have any experience shooting film this old, what the age effects are, how much, (percentage since the initial speed ratings are all different) to compensate for lost sensitivity, that sort of thing. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: rebates for SanDisk CF and SD cards
Igor, Yes, they are the gaming card. I don't know what you do to get the discount. I bought one in the store. Speed has not been much of a concern with my *istDS. I'm just looking for the capacity. Regards, Bob S. On 12/12/05, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, am I correct that you are referring to the SanDisk gaming card (yellow)? I was not able to find any information about the speed of it. I was referring to Ultra II. Also, I was unable to enter the coupon for $16. Igor Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0800 Bob Sullivan wrote: Igor, You can buy a 1GB card in the US for $50 after rebate at the office supply retailer Staples. This week's deal. They also sell on line. Regards, Bob S.
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
On 12/12/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, prohibition hurt the big breweries worse. Most of the small breweries were producing bootleg beer during prohibition and simply went legit in 1933. The big breweries were monitored much more closely. BTW, prior to 1920 there were literally thousands of breweries in the US. Almost every town of any size had a local brewery. Prior to pasteurization and refrigeration most beer did not travel well, India Pale Ale being the noted exception. I do not believe there were any national breweries prior to prohibition. Tom, There used to be lots of smaller local breweries up here, too. I don't think the prohibition killed them off, I think they got killed off by the Big Three (now the Big Two, Molson and Labatts, since Molson bought out Carling-O'Keefe some 10 years ago). Either the little guys just couldn't compete with the marketing of the big guys, or they were bought out. Typically, the little local brewery would continue under the big guy's name for several years, only to be eventually closed down due to ineffeciencies. Often the big guy only wanted to buy the brand (not the beer, just the brand). Once the local brewery was closed, they big guy continued to market the small brand, urban myth stating that they simply diverted bottles of beer of one of their big lines and re-labelled them. It was long rumoured that Labatt Blue and cult beer Labatt Crystal was all the same beer with different labels. Same thing with Molson Canadian some other beer that I forget the brand of (was it Molson Club?). As in the US, so-called microbreweries started to pop up in the 80's and 90's, typically brewing something other than the same-tasting homogeneous beers from the big guys. There was one called Rickerts (they're still around), who make a barely okay tasting red ale called Rickerts Red. It was a poorly-kept secret for many years that Rickerts is 100% owned by Molson (although it is nowhere stated as such on the bottles or in the ads), and that they were just Molson's attempt to regain or not lose their market share to micros. Anyway, that's probably more than anyone needs to know about Canadian breweries. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I can see that you're an agitator Actually he's a spin doctor. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas I can see that you're an agitator Some of the puns may be really Fab, but the list will Gain nothing of value from them. That's All for now ... Shel Louis J.Abolafia Fan Club [Original Message] From: William Robb I'm sure you're going to Bounce right back to your gentle self. =] I see a bunch of puns coming in on the Tide PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
RE: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Judging from the small thumbs there are some really stunning photos there. I only wish I could see them bigger. In fact most (read all) of them looks great. Good work. You do deserve your beauty sleep. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. desember 2005 05:34 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Ann This looks like a great body of work. Nice job! I couldn't imagine this in B+W. Its valuable to step back once a while and look @ one's photography in this context. Reminds you of where you've been where you might go. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
Hi Cotty ... I agree with most everything you've said except that, for the most part, I don't think the photos are particularly good. Quite a few wouldn't work at all without greater context or without an explanation. While they may be representative of the event for which they were taken, composition, storytelling, and the ability to make me feel something is lacking. There are those who subscribe to the idea that news an PJ photos need only deliver the information, however, I believe that a photograph, regardless of its purpose, needs more. It needs a strong image, that sense of composition I mentioned, and an unquantifiable something that brings forth the feeling that the photographer cared about the people and the situations depicted in each image. While the mediocrity of these images stands out like a sore thumb, I cannot point a finger only at the photographers. I believe the editors and the publishers are at least as responsible. I believe that a lot of editors these days are not well versed in what makes a photograph a good or a great photograph, just as I believe many photographers are incapable of understanding what elements are needed to make a truly good photo. Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty On 13/12/05, Bob W said: It's not their job to publish inspirational and joyful photos. The world is awash with that type of photo. What it's short of is good hard news photography. It's their job to provide a balanced view of good hard news. Speaking of which - here's some Breaking News: there were plenty of good hard news events happening all over the world that did not consist of a tsunami, hurricanes, and so on. But this is all pretty much irrelevant - publishing news pics is just like anything publishing most news magazines, it's totally subjective. They publish what they believe their readers want to see, and they're totally at liberty to do so. Personally, I have never had the desire to subscribe or buy Time magazine, and I have seen nothing recently that has changed my mind. The big news stories of the year have been the tsunami, hurricanes and so on, so that's what you'd expect to feature. What would people have said about balance if at the end of 2001 there had been nothing about the WTC attacks? There were other big news stories of the year (2005) that do not feature in the Time's 'Best Photos of the Year 2005', and I would expect them to feature those as well. regarding the WTC attacks, in a line-up of ten 'best' photos of the year, I would expect 1 pic. In a lineup of 24, maybe 2 or 3 pics. About 5000 people died in a landmark mass murder, and that is big news in the western world, but far more people die from starvation and poverty: about 1000 people per hour (source: UN World Food Programme). In the Time list, there is one photo (out of 24) [pic 21] illustrating a mother and child in war-torn Sudan. That's it. There are 6 (out of 24) shots of the aftermaths of hurricanes hitting America. For a publication purporting to cover world events, I consider this unbalanced. But what's new - Time readers are more interested in the hurricanes hitting their own shores than the thousands of tons of corpses piling up in a land many miles away, and who can blame them. I like good hard news photography, and I have no problem with a rash of death and destruction - that's reality and to me it's all news, good or bad. I do not distinguish between 'good' news or 'bad' news - that would be subjective and I avoid that. What i do distinguish between is a perceived unbalanced reporting that does not deliver a wide representative coverage of world events. I'm not saying Time is an example of this (I don't have nearly enough experience of its pages over the years), but what i do say is that based on its 'Best Photos of the Year' (2005) collection, as a whole, it sucks! Individually, most pics are first rate, and there are some incredibly good shots. FWIW, the only paper magazine i subscribe to is National Geographic. I'm afraid my sub to Foto8 has lapsed - I like it a lot but I find it too wordy for my taste, and not enough pics. Bring back the Illustrated London news!
Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels
We (in the USA) were getting Top Gear , for a while this fall on the Discovery channel. I my wife enjoyed it immensely. Can't seem to find it now. Apparently it was a trial balloon that went pifft. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: For Roberts, Brewer and others who ride on two wheels Sorry guys, just nailing my flag to the mast. i think Top Gear is brilliant, and one of the few TV progs that has me laughing out loud, and top=notch production values. The coverage of the cars is first rate, camera and editing. Clarkson and the others are just puffed egos but it works fine for me. The cars are the real stars. If i was a millionaire, there would be a ten car garage, and i wouldn't spend less than 60K ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
My complaint would be that they're really not very good photos, depressing or not. Bob W wrote: It's not their job to publish inspirational and joyful photos. The world is awash with that type of photo. What it's short of is good hard news photography. The big news stories of the year have been the tsunami, hurricanes and so on, so that's what you'd expect to feature. What would people have said about balance if at the end of 2001 there had been nothing about the WTC attacks? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2005 17:15 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 On 12/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Depressing bunch of photos. I mean I know it's PJ stuff, but surely they could have found some inspirational and joyful photos to publish. I agree entirely. I good set of pics is all about balance. No balance here. There are some outstanding individual examples, but as a set, they do not live up to the title they bare given Time. Let's see Nat. Geo's set! -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Sigma XQ 200mm - strange soft-focus macro
Does anyone know anything about this lens? Its a manual focus Sigma XQ 200mm/f3.5 on an interchangeable lens mount. The focusing mechanism is interesting. It has a quick focusing ring, and a second, fine focusing ring that gets it into the macro mode, although I think it is actually around about 1:2. The feel of the focusing is pleasant. Do you happen to have a photo of the lens, Derby? (Thanks.) Fred
Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
I left out a portion of a sentence. This paragraph: There are those who subscribe to the idea that news an PJ photos need only deliver the information, however, I believe that a photograph, regardless of its purpose, needs more. It needs a strong image, that sense of composition I mentioned, and an unquantifiable something that brings forth the feeling that the photographer cared about the people and the situations depicted in each image. Should read: There are those who subscribe to the idea that news and PJ photos need only deliver the information, however, I believe that a photograph, regardless of its purpose, needs more. It needs a strong image, that sense of composition I mentioned, and an unquantifiable something that brings forth the feeling that the photographer cared about the people and the situations depicted in each image as well as the ability to draw the viewer into the image, making him or her care and feel strongly about the subject. There were but one or two photos that did that for me.
Re: Flower Pics Wanted
Took me a while but: On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Bruce Dayton wrote: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1080.htm I have tried and tried to capture the spring mood of the unopened Narcisus; while still missing something, this I find to have the right feel. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1661.htm Words fail me. Kostas
RE: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
It's a US magazine, more than half the pictures are about news where US citicans are involved. This reflects the US view on what is important news. That is only natural, although a little sad. I have seen lots of better pictures from other stories. DagT fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] dato: 2005/12/13 ti AM 08:45:53 CET til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net emne: RE: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 It's not their job to publish inspirational and joyful photos. The world is awash with that type of photo. What it's short of is good hard news photography. The big news stories of the year have been the tsunami, hurricanes and so on, so that's what you'd expect to feature. What would people have said about balance if at the end of 2001 there had been nothing about the WTC attacks? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2005 17:15 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 On 12/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Depressing bunch of photos. I mean I know it's PJ stuff, but surely they could have found some inspirational and joyful photos to publish. I agree entirely. I good set of pics is all about balance. No balance here. There are some outstanding individual examples, but as a set, they do not live up to the title they bare given Time. Let's see Nat. Geo's set!
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Ann, You have enough terrific images there for five years of calendars. You're doubtless a prolific shooter, but aren't you planning on more calendars in the future? I imagine now is not the time to make that decision. Wait 'til you catch your breath and consider the wide acceptance of this issue. Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - not a skimmer
- Original Message - From: Ronald Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its a lovely shot. Thanks! Did you lie on the beach for it? If so you got wet? Yes I was lying on my belly with the camera and lens mounted on a ballhead that was secured to an aluminum frying pan that I use as a ground pod. It was a rainy, windy, nasty day and yes I got wet. I wear a Goretex jacket so my upper body was dry but my legs got wet and sandy. While the waves got close to me, they never threatened to inundate me (I kept an eye out for rougue waves). Crawling forward on the beach filled my pants pockets with sand too. I suffer for my craft! :-) What type of equipment did you use? The exif info is displayed below the picture. Canon 20D, 300/4 EF IS with 1.4x TC; mounted on a Studioball on the afore-mentioned ground pod. Thanks again for looking and commenting. Christian http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-42 you can click it to make the image slightly larger.
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
Dario, First, my sympathies. In case you have the input, and I'm sure it's superficial to many, I can't help making a couple content changes to the petition language. The word enthousiats should be spelled enthusiasts and the word for should be substituted for to at the end of the last heading sentence. (..comments for them. For some, this would be a distracting factor, compromising the impact of the petition. Now, I wonder if my 9th grade English Teacher would give the above a passing grade. Please be gentle. Jack --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical problems for all European branches of Pentax. A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php Ciao Dario __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005
This reflects the US view on what is important news. I think, more correctly, this reflects A US view on what is important news. Time doesn't speak for the US anymore than the BBC speaks for England. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 13, 2005 9:12 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 It's a US magazine, more than half the pictures are about news where US citicans are involved. This reflects the US view on what is important news. That is only natural, although a little sad. I have seen lots of better pictures from other stories. DagT fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] dato: 2005/12/13 ti AM 08:45:53 CET til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net emne: RE: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 It's not their job to publish inspirational and joyful photos. The world is awash with that type of photo. What it's short of is good hard news photography. The big news stories of the year have been the tsunami, hurricanes and so on, so that's what you'd expect to feature. What would people have said about balance if at the end of 2001 there had been nothing about the WTC attacks? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2005 17:15 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 On 12/12/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Depressing bunch of photos. I mean I know it's PJ stuff, but surely they could have found some inspirational and joyful photos to publish. I agree entirely. I good set of pics is all about balance. No balance here. There are some outstanding individual examples, but as a set, they do not live up to the title they bare given Time. Let's see Nat. Geo's set! PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
Since I'm from Missouri, I'll mention a couple of my favorite local breweries. The St. Louis Brewery in, er, St. Louis brews a wide selection of very good beer under the Schlafly name. Around the St. Louis area their pale ale is very popular. I prefer the Summer Kolsch or the Pilsner. Anyway, over the last few years the St. Louis Brewery has graduated to the status of small regional brewer. I've seen their offerings as far east as Ohio. They are NOT affiliated with AB. With any luck I'll have a case to bring to GFM. About halfway across the state in Columbia, MO, is a small brewery/restaurant/bar called Flat Branch. It's in an old factory on Fifth street. I can't recommend these guys highly enough. During the winter they brew the Old Cave Dweller's Barley Wine. No hops. It's thick, sweet, and goes down wonderfully on a cold day. Their Oil Change Stout puts Guinness to shame. If any of you happen by, try the Flat Branch Burger. It's covered in a spinach-artichoke dip and served with mashed potatoes. Plus, they're in a college town, so there's plenty of eye-candy, too. vbg I'm booking my plane ticket back home now. On 12/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to be lots of smaller local breweries up here, too. I don't think the prohibition killed them off, I think they got killed off by the Big Three (now the Big Two, Molson and Labatts, since Molson bought out Carling-O'Keefe some 10 years ago). Either the little guys just couldn't compete with the marketing of the big guys, or they were bought out. Typically, the little local brewery would continue under the big guy's name for several years, only to be eventually closed down due to ineffeciencies. Often the big guy only wanted to buy the brand (not the beer, just the brand). Once the local brewery was closed, they big guy continued to market the small brand, urban myth stating that they simply diverted bottles of beer of one of their big lines and re-labelled them. It was long rumoured that Labatt Blue and cult beer Labatt Crystal was all the same beer with different labels. Same thing with Molson Canadian some other beer that I forget the brand of (was it Molson Club?). As in the US, so-called microbreweries started to pop up in the 80's and 90's, typically brewing something other than the same-tasting homogeneous beers from the big guys. There was one called Rickerts (they're still around), who make a barely okay tasting red ale called Rickerts Red. It was a poorly-kept secret for many years that Rickerts is 100% owned by Molson (although it is nowhere stated as such on the bottles or in the ads), and that they were just Molson's attempt to regain or not lose their market share to micros. Anyway, that's probably more than anyone needs to know about Canadian breweries. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Who's Not Using Digital
Tom Reese wrote: Shel Belinkoff tried to cause trouble when he wrote: ...Who hasn't (made the move to digital) and who have no plans to do so in the near or foreseeable future? That would be me. Tom (Slides-R-Us) Reese yawn - dog bites man :-) ann p.s. well maybe there were SOME here that didn't know
Re: Flower Pics Wanted
Kostas, I do appreciate your words or lack of words. Thanks, Bruce Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 6:07:58 AM, you wrote: KK Took me a while but: KK On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Bruce Dayton wrote: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1080.htm KK I have tried and tried to capture the spring mood of the unopened KK Narcisus; while still missing something, this I find to have the KK right feel. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1661.htm KK Words fail me. KK Kostas
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
Hi Jack, I'm not the organizer of that petition. Please contact Mike Muizebelt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciao, Dario - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab Dario, First, my sympathies. In case you have the input, and I'm sure it's superficial to many, I can't help making a couple content changes to the petition language. The word enthousiats should be spelled enthusiasts and the word for should be substituted for to at the end of the last heading sentence. (..comments for them. For some, this would be a distracting factor, compromising the impact of the petition. Now, I wonder if my 9th grade English Teacher would give the above a passing grade. Please be gentle. Jack --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical problems for all European branches of Pentax. A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php Ciao Dario __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
graywolf wrote: Actually, prohibition hurt the big breweries worse. Not true. AB survived prohibition and maintained profitability by pursuing an array of endeavors. Most of the big breweries have a history page that goes back to the 1800's and they are still here. Most of the small breweries were producing bootleg beer during prohibition and simply went legit in 1933. I wouldnt say most. Some. And very few really survived. Many of them did not go the illegal route and could not diversify into other things. The big guys had land, and barley. The big breweries were monitored much more closely. BTW, prior to 1920 there were literally thousands of breweries in the US. Yes, literally thousands. And LOTS of dark beer too. Almost every town of any size had a local brewery. Prior to pasteurization and refrigeration most beer did not travel well, India Pale Ale being the noted exception. I do not believe there were any national breweries prior to prohibition. Maybe not national, but pretty large scale. Lets put it this way, in 1901, AB was broke the 1million barrel/year mark. Thats pretty big back then. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Gonz wrote: I brew beer, and thats the story I've read about in the brew books. But , there is one additional piece of data: prohibition. Prohibition killed off all the original unique breweries the US used to have. Brewed beer more like you get from Europe. The big breweries survived by selling barley off to other clients. The small breweries died. Then WWII came and the nature of beer changed once the big breweries came online again and their market, women, demanded lighter beer. Bob Sullivan wrote: Graywolf, This sounds like an urban legend to me. Taste is a very powerful memory and difficult to change. Pabst Blue Ribbon tried to do change tastes in the '50's. It worked out like New Coke - disaster. My dad switched and never came back, They changed back to the old formulation in about 5 years. It was to late and the company died. Regards, Bob S. On 12/10/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I have not told the story of american beer in a while. Back before WWII the factory guys used to stop in the bars afterwork for a few beers while waiting for the streetcar. Everyone remembers streetcars, right grin? Then during WWII while the guys were all off getting their arse shot off, the girls took over the factory jobs. They figured they should get to drink a few beers just like the guys use to, only they did not actually like the taste of beer. Miller came up with the idea of making a beer that did not have that nasty beer taste for the girls to indulge in after work. Thus Miller High Life was born. The other breweries slowly followed suit, especially after they realized how much cheaper beer was to make when you cut it in half with water, and left out most of the expensive hops. The funny thing, to me, is that Miller's is still about the same as they made it back in WWII, but most of the others are even worse now. 99% of the time I drink imports. However, in this age of micro-breweries you can get decent american beer. Not all of the micro-brewed stuff is decent, not even most of it, but some definately is. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Don Williams wrote: You can get decent beer in the US; Amstel and Carlsberg are available in New York and San Francisco -- and hundreds of other places I've never visited, I guess. I once drank a bottle of Miller's in Ballston Lake, or Saratoga Springs I can't be sure. It was atrocious. Why is beer making so difficult? Or do they make it right and then bugger it up before bottling? Don W Paul Stenquist wrote: Coors was very popular among east coast and midwest auto racers, particularly drag racers, during the sixties. It wasn't available east of the Rockies, so it was essentially an import. In those days the fastest dragsters were all from California, and the California racers used empty Coors cans to cover their eight exhaust pipes went the car was shut off. Their eastern counterparts wanted everything the fast guys had of course, so getting a set of Coors cans was a major achievement. Some apparently took the leap of logic that if the cans were good for covering your pipes, the beer must be good for pouring down your personal pipe. So guys driving back from the west coast used to pack as much Coors as they could into their trucks. I guess for folks who grew up drinking Bud, Miller and Strohs, it probably tasted okay. Like most other beers, I would guess it's not the same brew today that it was forty years ago. I can't remember ever trying it. Paul On Dec 10, 2005, at 6:26 AM, graywolf wrote: An allegedly alcoholic beverage brewed by a neo-Nazi company in Colorado. The main virtue of it was it was 3.2% beer and
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Kenneth Waller wrote: Ann This looks like a great body of work. Nice job! I couldn't imagine this in B+W. Thanks Ken and right, not bw stuff - weel, a couple of them maybe. Its valuable to step back once a while and look @ one's photography in this context. Reminds you of where you've been where you might go. Kenneth Waller Actually, that's what I like about the contact sheet - you were speaking metaphorically about one's approach to photography, I think , Ken - but the greatest pleasure I got out of assembling these was looking back at where I've been _literally_ and hope to visit again :) ann -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
I mentioned a little bit of history about AB. Here is a link to Miller's history. Not as big as AB, but a very similar story: http://www.millerbrewing.com/aboutMiller/aboutHistory.asp rg graywolf wrote: Actually, prohibition hurt the big breweries worse. Most of the small breweries were producing bootleg beer during prohibition and simply went legit in 1933. The big breweries were monitored much more closely. BTW, prior to 1920 there were literally thousands of breweries in the US. Almost every town of any size had a local brewery. Prior to pasteurization and refrigeration most beer did not travel well, India Pale Ale being the noted exception. I do not believe there were any national breweries prior to prohibition. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Gonz wrote: I brew beer, and thats the story I've read about in the brew books. But , there is one additional piece of data: prohibition. Prohibition killed off all the original unique breweries the US used to have. Brewed beer more like you get from Europe. The big breweries survived by selling barley off to other clients. The small breweries died. Then WWII came and the nature of beer changed once the big breweries came online again and their market, women, demanded lighter beer. Bob Sullivan wrote: Graywolf, This sounds like an urban legend to me. Taste is a very powerful memory and difficult to change. Pabst Blue Ribbon tried to do change tastes in the '50's. It worked out like New Coke - disaster. My dad switched and never came back, They changed back to the old formulation in about 5 years. It was to late and the company died. Regards, Bob S. On 12/10/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I have not told the story of american beer in a while. Back before WWII the factory guys used to stop in the bars afterwork for a few beers while waiting for the streetcar. Everyone remembers streetcars, right grin? Then during WWII while the guys were all off getting their arse shot off, the girls took over the factory jobs. They figured they should get to drink a few beers just like the guys use to, only they did not actually like the taste of beer. Miller came up with the idea of making a beer that did not have that nasty beer taste for the girls to indulge in after work. Thus Miller High Life was born. The other breweries slowly followed suit, especially after they realized how much cheaper beer was to make when you cut it in half with water, and left out most of the expensive hops. The funny thing, to me, is that Miller's is still about the same as they made it back in WWII, but most of the others are even worse now. 99% of the time I drink imports. However, in this age of micro-breweries you can get decent american beer. Not all of the micro-brewed stuff is decent, not even most of it, but some definately is. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Don Williams wrote: You can get decent beer in the US; Amstel and Carlsberg are available in New York and San Francisco -- and hundreds of other places I've never visited, I guess. I once drank a bottle of Miller's in Ballston Lake, or Saratoga Springs I can't be sure. It was atrocious. Why is beer making so difficult? Or do they make it right and then bugger it up before bottling? Don W Paul Stenquist wrote: Coors was very popular among east coast and midwest auto racers, particularly drag racers, during the sixties. It wasn't available east of the Rockies, so it was essentially an import. In those days the fastest dragsters were all from California, and the California racers used empty Coors cans to cover their eight exhaust pipes went the car was shut off. Their eastern counterparts wanted everything the fast guys had of course, so getting a set of Coors cans was a major achievement. Some apparently took the leap of logic that if the cans were good for covering your pipes, the beer must be good for pouring down your personal pipe. So guys driving back from the west coast used to pack as much Coors as they could into their trucks. I guess for folks who grew up drinking Bud, Miller and Strohs, it probably tasted okay. Like most other beers, I would guess it's not the same brew today that it was forty years ago. I can't remember ever trying it. Paul On Dec 10, 2005, at 6:26 AM, graywolf wrote: An allegedly alcoholic beverage brewed by a neo-Nazi company in Colorado. The main virtue of it was it was 3.2% beer and thus legally buyable by use underage GI's back in the early 60's. Definitely not for anyone who likes the taste of beer. AKA cow piss. As you probably can tell I did not like the man, the company, nor the beer. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Here's a pic of little April enjoying a Coors. I'm wondering
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Tim Øsleby wrote: Judging from the small thumbs there are some really stunning photos there. I only wish I could see them bigger. In fact most (read all) of them looks great. Good work. You do deserve your beauty sleep. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) And I got some sleep eventually :) WEll...if you want to see all of them bigger, you can buy the cd :) Seriously, I intend, at some time in future to put some on photo net. Meanwhile, you _can_ see a number of these online and larger by starting at my homepage and clicking around http://users.rcn.com/annsan I'd say roughly 15 to 20 of these are on line either in old PUG galleries, on photo.net, etc.. Glad you liked them. ann Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. desember 2005 05:34 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted
PESO - Dare to be different
Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Jack Davis wrote: Ann, You have enough terrific images there for five years of calendars. You're doubtless a prolific shooter, but aren't you planning on more calendars in the future? I imagine now is not the time to make that decision. Wait 'til you catch your breath and consider the wide acceptance of this issue. Jack At present, I'm more of a prolific searcher through files :) Some of these were from the AMERICA NATURALLY calendar I made a couple of years ago (and a couple of guys on the list have it) - I did the cat calendar for this year - didn't have time with other pressing matters to put up a wall calendar of horizontal shots for this year on cafepress. Just curious, did you click on the html link or just the jpg? I think I need to reduce the size of the cover on the ad site... and maybe go back to leaving the contact sheet larger, though I like the black background for it. Unfortunately, at this time cafepress doesnt run a vertical format calendar, maybe they will have that as an option next year. If I do a 12 month thing with these I have a lot of design work to do on it. ah _ i'm babbling - thinking aloud - I just hope my friend who inspired it is pleased. glad you liked them, Jack ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
The more pictures I see from the A70-210/4, the more I like it. Maybe I'll put that on my wishlist for after Christmas. In this picture, I think the bokeh of the background, and the tack-sharp leaves make the picture. Excellent picture, Bruce. I'd hang it on my wall. -Mat On 12/13/05, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: O.T.: Time Magazines Best Photos of the Year 2005 - With link
David Savage wrote: HA! I have a short attention span. What was it I was supposed to be thinking about. ...oh that's right: http://www.time.com/time/yip/2005/ Sorry folks. Dave Dave - you NOT posting the link gave us much merriment - certainly forgiven. Now I hope they forgive me for posting a dup link in my GESO :) and judging from the comments, I'm guessing there is not much merriment in those images. ann On 12/12/05, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you still thinking about posting the link, or have you now decided against it? And if so, curious minds would be interested to know why. John
Re: OT: Do you guys think this is legit? or BS?
P. J. Alling wrote: No Idea, but if you're friends with a lawyer, I'd run it past him/her first. I've already rejected it - having gotten a reply to my rejection, I was more convinced it was trash. ann Ann Sanfedele wrote: I haven't looked at his site yet - should I be leary of it? anyone know anything about it? This is the email I got this morning - would be great if it is real and safe Anyone know anything at all about this or what precautions I should take with it? Thanks much - and sorry I haven't been peso and paw commenting for a bit I've just finished finally the work on the engagement calendar ann __ Subject: I want to sell your T-shirts through our stores Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:24:11 -0800 From: Mark Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've spent a lot of time at the Owl and the Pussycat website and I think your T-shirts are perfect for our stores. I especially like your Cattitude and Dancing Frogs designs. We work hand in hand with the largest stores in the country, plus thousands of small to medium sized specialty businesses stretched across the U.S.. If you want the opportunity to sell your products through major retailers like Sears, Macys, Nordstrom, Robinsons May, JC Penney, Target, QVC, HSN, etc ... plus the other 51005 gift stores, 11329 men's clothing stores, 39089 women's clothing stores, 7129 children's clothing stores, and over 24000 mail-order catalogs ... check us out at http://www.VendorPro.com Sincerely, Mark Adams VendorPro.com -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Interesting concept, well executed. Good choice on the stop. I like the DOF and resulting bokey. Excellent work. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: OT: rebates for SanDisk CF and SD cards
Bob, Aah, ok. Having been burnt once, I care for the speed of the card. I tried to buy a new MMCplus card from ATP which presmably should be at least as fast as UltraII card (according to the manufacturer's technical support), even for the 7(9) pin devices such as *istDS is. I could notice a huge difference in the speed even for a single shot. You can see the much longer delay before you can start changing settings (say, accessible via Fn). I never tried to compare the speed of UltraII with a regular SanDisk card, and no specs are available about the gaming card. Anyway, thanks. I guess, if nobody responses, saying there is a better deal for UltraII 1GB SD elsewhere, I will order one from Amazon. Igor Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:01:31 -0800 Bob Sullivan wrote: Igor, Yes, they are the gaming card. I don't know what you do to get the discount. I bought one in the store. Speed has not been much of a concern with my *istDS. I'm just looking for the capacity. Regards, Bob S.
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
Forwarded today. Jack --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jack, I'm not the organizer of that petition. Please contact Mike Muizebelt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ciao, Dario - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab Dario, First, my sympathies. In case you have the input, and I'm sure it's superficial to many, I can't help making a couple content changes to the petition language. The word enthousiats should be spelled enthusiasts and the word for should be substituted for to at the end of the last heading sentence. (..comments for them. For some, this would be a distracting factor, compromising the impact of the petition. Now, I wonder if my 9th grade English Teacher would give the above a passing grade. Please be gentle. Jack --- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just been informed of the sad decision to close the Pentax Benelux branch and the relevant repair lab next April. That lab in Breda is the most renowned Pentax service, the only one capable to solve the hardest technical problems for all European branches of Pentax. A petition to Pentax against this move is undergoing here. http://www.culinair.com/pentax/index.php Ciao Dario __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
html. Do you have a favorite program for such? Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Ann, You have enough terrific images there for five years of calendars. You're doubtless a prolific shooter, but aren't you planning on more calendars in the future? I imagine now is not the time to make that decision. Wait 'til you catch your breath and consider the wide acceptance of this issue. Jack At present, I'm more of a prolific searcher through files :) Some of these were from the AMERICA NATURALLY calendar I made a couple of years ago (and a couple of guys on the list have it) - I did the cat calendar for this year - didn't have time with other pressing matters to put up a wall calendar of horizontal shots for this year on cafepress. Just curious, did you click on the html link or just the jpg? I think I need to reduce the size of the cover on the ad site... and maybe go back to leaving the contact sheet larger, though I like the black background for it. Unfortunately, at this time cafepress doesnt run a vertical format calendar, maybe they will have that as an option next year. If I do a 12 month thing with these I have a lot of design work to do on it. ah _ i'm babbling - thinking aloud - I just hope my friend who inspired it is pleased. glad you liked them, Jack ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: need a favor
Could one of you guys in the USA who has Windoze and Adobe Acrobat take my MS Word 97 file for the calendar and make it a PDF? The person I thought who could and would do it for me turns out not to have the stuff for it. I know I can get one free conversion from Adobe on line but I'm on dial up and the file is 18+ megs. My thought was to send you the CD to keep for yourself, of course, with the calendar in the MS Word form and all the separate jpg files (not needed to be put into PDF) Thanks much - off list responses, of course :) ann wanted someone in USA cause I can send the cd to them faster.
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Tom wrote: OK... Jack... now show us a shot that's in focus or where there's not a breeze... I think the colors of the leaves and such are just fine... obviously shot in low light with a lot of contrast, hence the very dark almost silhouette... but I don't find the colors, which are supposed to be bright and vibrant based on the subject, unnatural or unappealing. The fact that Velvia has been by far and away the leading landscape nature film for just about the last 15 years says that many people, including those making a living, and 'pros' don't agree. I was expecting you'd show us a picture where the colors are grossly distorted. This doesn't look that way to me. I've been using Velvia since it came out and can display quite a number of shots that have had widespead appeal (from those who have viewed them). REPLY: Right. One of the reason Velvia became the benchmark for outdoor use is that it actually convey the concept or green or yellow for that matter, something that is not always true for other films. There are no film known to man that copy the world as it is. Our brain doesn't see the world as it is either. We do heavy processing of the image in the brain. Velvia is saturated, true, but it isn't off (like many other realistic films - eg Provia whose skies can be found nowhere on Earth!). And if saturated colors are so bad, what do we make out of black and white? It is certanly not real! Photography is such an artifical input that you cannot make an sucessful image by just copying reality... Pål
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
I like the subject color pallette. I don't care for the composition tho. The relatively blank bottom is distracting. Taking a vertical rectangular crop roughly out of the center, more or less centered on the golden leaf, not including a complete leaf, would be an improvement -IMHO. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Dare to be different Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Nice, Bruce! An example of when a rule defying center placement of a primary element, it exactly right. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting concept, well executed. Good choice on the stop. I like the DOF and resulting bokey. Excellent work. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Who's Not Using Digital
I'm not using digital. I've just ordered an Nikon 9000ED scanner and plan to stick with film for a few more years. Besides, Pentax digital offerings are quite underwhelming in my opinion, and doesn't trigger a hint of gearlust in me at least... Pål
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
The more pictures I see from the A70-210/4, the more I like it. Indeed. ;-) Fred
Re: Planned closure of Pentax Benelux and Breda repair lab
My LX was serviced by Belgium center. Ronald Thibouille wrote: :'( I had to go t them a couple of times and they always served me very well. Also their Belgian centre is/was established just next to my parents home so it was really easy for me. My ist-D and me would like to thank them ;) -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Do you have the EXIF-type info for the other photos (the Next, and the Next, etc.), too, Bruce? Thanks. Fred
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Pål Jensen wrote: Right. One of the reason Velvia became the benchmark for outdoor use is that it actually convey the concept or green or yellow for that matter, something that is not always true for other films. There are no film known to man that copy the world as it is. Our brain doesn't see the world as it is either. We do heavy processing of the image in the brain. Velvia is saturated, true, but it isn't off (like many other realistic films - eg Provia whose skies can be found nowhere on Earth!). And if saturated colors are so bad, what do we make out of black and white? It is certanly not real! Photography is such an artifical input that you cannot make an sucessful image by just copying reality... Those are good points that almost can't be overstressed. For the most part we want our pictures to look 'real'. That's pretty much impossible but we try to get close. My real is different from your real is different from Jack's real. Now the website Rob Studdert showed us with the gross cartoonlike colors, where there was additional saturation added on top of Velvia, was over the top and too much. But even then... well if the images sell that's a shame but... but that's not Velvia out of the box either. Most night shots are not 'real' (really the way it looked to the human eye) and shots taken with split density filters are not 'real', and blurred waterfalls are not 'real'... Tom C. (I reject your reality and substitute one of my own). :-)
RE: PESO - Dare to be different
Hi Bruce ... essentially a nice photo. You've got a unique eye for such things. IMO, the composition leaves something to be desired. Cropping out the OOF leaf on the right, just at its tip, is an improvement. Shel ... [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm
RE: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Wow Ann! That looks very nice! If you get enough print orders you may be spending some of that money on a new printer. Have you considered putting it on e-bay? Tom C. From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew! Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:33:50 -0500 down and dirty contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg the link to more info on my homepage and big shot of cover http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html down and dirty but larger contact sheet of each image in the thing http://users.rcn.com/annsan/coverandpicscontactsheet.jpg I couldn't figure out a way to print the thing for less than about $30 doing it myself on my old 820. MOST of the photos were taken with a KX or LX but there are a few dark side digitals there too. This was mainly done for a friend who I hope will still be around for another year. I always give her a log/engagement calendar of pretty nature or art things that I buy - hunt for them the year round... when it got to be her birthday and I had not found one I fulfilled one of my dreams of jsut taking time off and making one. I'm hoping enough people buy just the files on a CD to help make up for the hours this took me. THe good thing is, it works as a portfolio, it isn't year specific so maybe I could get lucky and have it actually published my someone for next year or later. (I know, I'm dreaming) anyway comments welcome - though except for the cover these are just thumbnails. A few of these will look familiar :) ann the exhausted
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Fred, Let me know which images you want and I'll be more than happy to get it for you. BTW, thanks for the tip on the A 70-210/4 - what a great lens! -- Bruce Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 9:36:43 AM, you wrote: Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm F Do you have the EXIF-type info for the other photos (the Next, and the F Next, etc.), too, Bruce? Thanks. F Fred
RE: PESO - Dare to be different
Hi Bruce, I've taken quite a few shots similar to this and my satisfaction rate is pretty low. I like this one. The colors and bokeh are really pleasing. The first thing that hits me is the out of focus leaf on the right. May be better w/o it. Somehow I think it's difficult for shots like this to 'stand on their own'. I don't know why. I can see it fitting quite nicely in a small framed (like 5 x 7) and matted wall grouping of similar shots (trees and leaves)... Four shots maybe? Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Dare to be different Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:43:04 -0800 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Hi, Bruce. Let me know which images you want and I'll be more than happy to get it for you. OK, howzabout - http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2471a.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2427.htm Thanks. I know that I can always save a JPG to my hard drive and then look at its exposure info in one of the image apps, but I usually want to know which lens was used, as well. BTW, thanks for the tip on the A 70-210/4 - what a great lens! It's always been one of ~my~ favorites. Fred
Re: Who's Not Using Digital
Pål Jensen wrote: I'm not using digital. I've just ordered an Nikon 9000ED scanner and plan to stick with film for a few more years. Besides, Pentax digital offerings are quite underwhelming in my opinion, and doesn't trigger a hint of gearlust in me at least... What would it take for Pentax's offerings to be whelming in your opinion?
RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Hi, Pal, You're, of course, right in your statement that no image capture will exactly replicate nature as presented to one's eye. All is relative. 'Close to honest' is my standard in this medium. I, also, agree that Velvia's greens and yellows are less offensive than others in this film's unique spectrum. I'm re-posting the original image requested by Kostas. This gives you the chance to review the offending hues mentioned. Saturation, in it's self, shouldn't be condemned, but the eye can not be tricked beyond a point frequently ignored by many shooters unable to resist the 'power' offered through PS. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote: OK... Jack... now show us a shot that's in focus or where there's not a breeze... I think the colors of the leaves and such are just fine... obviously shot in low light with a lot of contrast, hence the very dark almost silhouette... but I don't find the colors, which are supposed to be bright and vibrant based on the subject, unnatural or unappealing. The fact that Velvia has been by far and away the leading landscape nature film for just about the last 15 years says that many people, including those making a living, and 'pros' don't agree. I was expecting you'd show us a picture where the colors are grossly distorted. This doesn't look that way to me. I've been using Velvia since it came out and can display quite a number of shots that have had widespead appeal (from those who have viewed them). REPLY: Right. One of the reason Velvia became the benchmark for outdoor use is that it actually convey the concept or green or yellow for that matter, something that is not always true for other films. There are no film known to man that copy the world as it is. Our brain doesn't see the world as it is either. We do heavy processing of the image in the brain. Velvia is saturated, true, but it isn't off (like many other realistic films - eg Provia whose skies can be found nowhere on Earth!). And if saturated colors are so bad, what do we make out of black and white? It is certanly not real! Photography is such an artifical input that you cannot make an sucessful image by just copying reality... Pål __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: need a favor
At 11:15 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Could one of you guys in the USA who has Windoze and Adobe Acrobat take my MS Word 97 file for the calendar and make it a PDF? The person I thought who could and would do it for me turns out not to have the stuff for it. WordPerfect will also produce a PDF. You can import the file and then use File | Export | PDF. Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary numbers and those who do not. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
Here you go, http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191a.htm Pentax *istD, Tamron 90/2.8 AF Macro, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Manual mode, Center weighted metering http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2471a.htm Pentax *istD, A 70-20/4, handheld ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6, Manual mode, Center weighted metering http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2427.htm Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0, Manual mode, Center weighted metering -- Bruce Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 10:00:16 AM, you wrote: F Hi, Bruce. Let me know which images you want and I'll be more than happy to get it for you. F OK, howzabout - F http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2191a.htm F http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2471a.htm F http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2427.htm F Thanks. F I know that I can always save a JPG to my hard drive and then look at its F exposure info in one of the image apps, but I usually want to know which F lens was used, as well. BTW, thanks for the tip on the A 70-210/4 - what a great lens! F It's always been one of ~my~ favorites. F Fred
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
There have been several comments concerning cropping on this one. What I am wondering is how much of the right leaf to take out and whether I should rebalance the left side with a similar crop. It was my original intent to show the leaf in a group of leaves so that it could be picked out. Thanks for all the input. -- Bruce Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 9:56:31 AM, you wrote: TC Hi Bruce, TC I've taken quite a few shots similar to this and my satisfaction rate is TC pretty low. I like this one. The colors and bokeh are really pleasing. TC The first thing that hits me is the out of focus leaf on the right. May be TC better w/o it. TC Somehow I think it's difficult for shots like this to 'stand on their own'. TC I don't know why. I can see it fitting quite nicely in a small framed (like TC 5 x 7) and matted wall grouping of similar shots (trees and leaves)... Four TC shots maybe? TC Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Dare to be different Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:43:04 -0800 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're, of course, right in your statement that no image capture will exactly replicate nature as presented to one's eye. All is relative. 'Close to honest' is my standard in this medium. I, also, agree that Velvia's greens and yellows are less offensive than others in this film's unique spectrum. I'm re-posting the original image requested by Kostas. This gives you the chance to review the offending hues mentioned. Saturation, in it's self, shouldn't be condemned, but the eye can not be tricked beyond a point frequently ignored by many shooters unable to resist the 'power' offered through PS. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=96 Theres seem to be a magenta cast in this image. It is, however, impossible to say if it is supposed to be there or not. Remember that the brain filters out (most) color cast of the light while film doesn't. There might have been magenta cast to the clouds (hence the light) for all we know. Anyway, Velvia do not suffer from magenta cast and if it does there might be something with the processing. It is basically impossible to tell. The fact is that Velvia dosn't really display color cast. Kodachrome are often magentaish or greenish. Provia often steel blue etc...but Velvia is just saturated. However, due to its high saturation the color of the light, often invisible to human eyes, might get accentuated. Pål
Lenses
Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny
Re: Lenses
Hi Sunny, welcome to the list. The following resource will explain things better than I can, well worth a look: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/index.html Best regards, John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic -- Original Message --- From: Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:22:52 -0500 Subject: Lenses Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny --- End of Original Message --- The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message.
Re: Lenses
Sunny Chung wrote: Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny An SMC Pentax-FA is the newest class of Pentax 50mm lenses. They are completely compatible with DSLR's and 35mm SLR's. An SMC Pentax-F is the previous class of Pentax 50mm lenses. They too are completely compatible, and essentially identical in operation. They don't transmit MTF table data to the body, if you care (who does?) An SMC Pentax-A lens doesn't support autofocus. You can manually focus. Aside from that, compatibility is good. An SMC Pentax-M lens doesn't support AF nor does it have an auto-diaphragm. In other words, it doesn't support auto aperture. Mounted on one of Pentax's DSLR's, you have to jump through an extra hoop to get it to meter for you. Many people here don't see this as a big deal. YMMV. Previous to that, Pentax had SMC Pentax and Pentax K lenses. They'll work about the same as a Pentax-M lens. Be sure to not accidentally get your hands on a screwmount lens. They'll work, but require an adapter that can sometimes be a finicky device. If you want pretty much full functionality, get an SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.7. The SMC Pentax-F 50mm f/1.4 or 1.7 is essentially an equally acceptable alternative. Dave
Re: Lenses
Welcome Sunny. The DL will work fine with all pentax 50mm lenses. Any lenses that do not have an A setting (M and K lenses) will work also, but you are going to have to set the camera to manual and allow it to use such lenses, which should be in your user's manual. Sigma lenses made for pentax should also work. Canon lenses will not work however. Sunny Chung wrote: Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:34:57 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree about Minolta software. I've been using the Scan Dual II since 2000 and the supplied software is junk. Vuescan works just great for me, I've been using it for years and thousands of scans so i know it very well now. If you want something that might be easier/slicker, do a google search for SilverFast. It's very good software, I had an eval copy that I tested extensively. However, I preferred Vuescan and found it to produce a better scan once learned. Thanks for the tip on Silverfast, I'll check it out. Does anyone have links to something lika a Vuescan tutorial? I seem to recall someone writing something a while back, and that it was available as a PDF document on-line. However, Ed's been improving the Vuescan user interface step by step, so I don't know how useful the old tutorial document might be. Perhaps I should write one... Godfrey
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
Well, if one wants to follow the history thing through the years, I don't think prohibition hurt Canadian breweries at all grin. Prohibition did in many US breweries. Then the great depression of the 1930's did in most of those without deep pockets, and thus the big breweries started to dominate the market. Since WWII the biggies have systemetically bought out smaller breweries and as you said put their names on generic beer. They did so well at this that eventually there was a hole in the market that the micro-breweries stepped in to fill. In fact they did it to the point where AB bought the NA rights to the Swiss Lowenbrau brand and made it a generic at high prices which is about the ultimate insult to people who actually like beer. The problem is that huge conglomerate corporations make so much untaxed money and have virtually unlimited credit so they can absorb just about anything that comes on the market making them even bigger. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- frank theriault wrote: On 12/12/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, prohibition hurt the big breweries worse. Most of the small breweries were producing bootleg beer during prohibition and simply went legit in 1933. The big breweries were monitored much more closely. BTW, prior to 1920 there were literally thousands of breweries in the US. Almost every town of any size had a local brewery. Prior to pasteurization and refrigeration most beer did not travel well, India Pale Ale being the noted exception. I do not believe there were any national breweries prior to prohibition. Tom, There used to be lots of smaller local breweries up here, too. I don't think the prohibition killed them off, I think they got killed off by the Big Three (now the Big Two, Molson and Labatts, since Molson bought out Carling-O'Keefe some 10 years ago). Either the little guys just couldn't compete with the marketing of the big guys, or they were bought out. Typically, the little local brewery would continue under the big guy's name for several years, only to be eventually closed down due to ineffeciencies. Often the big guy only wanted to buy the brand (not the beer, just the brand). Once the local brewery was closed, they big guy continued to market the small brand, urban myth stating that they simply diverted bottles of beer of one of their big lines and re-labelled them. It was long rumoured that Labatt Blue and cult beer Labatt Crystal was all the same beer with different labels. Same thing with Molson Canadian some other beer that I forget the brand of (was it Molson Club?). As in the US, so-called microbreweries started to pop up in the 80's and 90's, typically brewing something other than the same-tasting homogeneous beers from the big guys. There was one called Rickerts (they're still around), who make a barely okay tasting red ale called Rickerts Red. It was a poorly-kept secret for many years that Rickerts is 100% owned by Molson (although it is nowhere stated as such on the bottles or in the ads), and that they were just Molson's attempt to regain or not lose their market share to micros. Anyway, that's probably more than anyone needs to know about Canadian breweries. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Lenses
On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:45 AM, David Oswald wrote: ... An SMC Pentax-M lens doesn't support AF nor does it have an auto-diaphragm. In other words, it doesn't support auto aperture. Mounted on one of Pentax's DSLR's, you have to jump through an extra hoop to get it to meter for you. Many people here don't see this as a big deal. YMMV. Previous to that, Pentax had SMC Pentax and Pentax K lenses. They'll work about the same as a Pentax-M lens. ... David, All Pentax K-mount lenses (including M series) have an automatic diaphragm mechanism. What the pre-A series lenses are missing is the A position on the aperture ring and the electronic contacts needed to communicate with the *ist DL for fully automatic exposure. With these lenses you use the aperture ring on the lens to set the desired lens opening, set the body into Manual exposure mode, and press the AE-Lock button (Green button on the D model) to meter a scene. If you want pretty much full functionality, get an SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.7. The SMC Pentax-F 50mm f/1.4 or 1.7 is essentially an equally acceptable alternative. I agree with that. And, if you are happy enough with Manual focus, an A series 50/1.4 or 50/1.7 works very well too. But I would strongly recommend the Pentax FA50/1.4 anyway ... I find this to be a superb lens for both manual and auto focus operation, with top notch image quality, resolution and contrast. Godfrey
RE: need a favor
Hi Ann, I left this on the list because it may be of use to others. If you go to www.download.com and search for: PDF Printer Driver or Convert to PDF or Print to PDF you will find several small programs that install like a printer driver. You then simply print _any_ document to it and it turns it into a .PDF file. Some are free, and some are very cheap. Look at the rating on downloads.com, it tells you which ones people have found the most useful. I use one called docuPrinter LT from http://www.neevia.com/ it works very well for me and several of my customers. HTH Don -Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:16 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: need a favor Could one of you guys in the USA who has Windoze and Adobe Acrobat take my MS Word 97 file for the calendar and make it a PDF? The person I thought who could and would do it for me turns out not to have the stuff for it. I know I can get one free conversion from Adobe on line but I'm on dial up and the file is 18+ megs. My thought was to send you the CD to keep for yourself, of course, with the calendar in the MS Word form and all the separate jpg files (not needed to be put into PDF) Thanks much - off list responses, of course :) ann wanted someone in USA cause I can send the cd to them faster.
Re: Lenses
Get the SMCP-FA 50/1.4 - it is a legendary prime lens worth every penny. On 12/13/05, Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny
Re: PESO - Dare to be different
In a message dated 12/13/2005 10:23:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There have been several comments concerning cropping on this one. What I am wondering is how much of the right leaf to take out and whether I should rebalance the left side with a similar crop. It was my original intent to show the leaf in a group of leaves so that it could be picked out. Thanks for all the input. -- Bruce == http://members.aol.com/eactivist/leafcrop.jpg If you are concerned about that little bit of leaf left, I suppose you could try cloning it out. I would prefer the gold leaf off-center, myself. HTH, Marnie
Re: OT: need a favor
If you haven't found anyone else, I'd be happy to do it. Just send me the file and I'll get the PDF back to you either e-mail, CD or both. -P Gary Sibio wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Could one of you guys in the USA who has Windoze and Adobe Acrobat take my MS Word 97 file for the calendar and make it a PDF? The person I thought who could and would do it for me turns out not to have the stuff for it. WordPerfect will also produce a PDF. You can import the file and then use File | Export | PDF. Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary numbers and those who do not.
Whatta Lias! _was_ Lenses
Just had to jump in here for a second to re-iterate what a great list this is. 3 very helpful responses in 25 minutes! AND no one tries to make you feel like a dummy. (Like some other lists) Till they know you that is! VVBG Welcome Sunny, I'm glad to be a member here and I'm sure you will be too. If you want to get an inexpensive non-AF lens that is truly excellent try the SMC Pentax-A 50/1.7, cheap and very, very good. It comes in AF too as the F or FA, more money but also excellent. A bit more gets you the 1.4 versions of the above, depends on what you wish to spend. Don -Original Message- From: Sunny Chung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:23 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Lenses Hi I just recently bought a ist* DL and have been using it for a couple months... Although now I wish I had the DS2, but it wasn't out then. Anyway, I'm interested in buying a fast 50mm fixed lens, but I'm not sure which ones are compatible. I don't know what all the letters in front of the lens names mean and which ones will work with mine. I read something about apature rings being set to 'A' but could not fully comprehend it. Also I was wondering if other brands like sigma or even canon lenses were compatible with my ist* DL. Any information would help me a great deal, thanks. I hope this is the way this digest works, because I just signed up and have no clue how things run around here. -Sunny
RE: PDML Mini-FAQ Link
Thanx once again tom. Don -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:12 PM To: Pentax Discussion Malling List Subject: PDML Mini-FAQ Link http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---
Re: Lenses
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 10:45 AM, David Oswald wrote: ... An SMC Pentax-M lens doesn't support AF nor does it have an auto-diaphragm. In other words, it doesn't support auto aperture. Mounted on one of Pentax's DSLR's, you have to jump through an extra hoop to get it to meter for you. Many people here don't see this as a big deal. YMMV. Previous to that, Pentax had SMC Pentax and Pentax K lenses. They'll work about the same as a Pentax-M lens. ... David, All Pentax K-mount lenses (including M series) have an automatic diaphragm mechanism. What the pre-A series lenses are missing is the A position on the aperture ring and the electronic contacts needed to communicate with the *ist DL for fully automatic exposure. With these lenses you use the aperture ring on the lens to set the desired lens opening, set the body into Manual exposure mode, and press the AE-Lock button (Green button on the D model) to meter a scene. If you want pretty much full functionality, get an SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.7. The SMC Pentax-F 50mm f/1.4 or 1.7 is essentially an equally acceptable alternative. I agree with that. And, if you are happy enough with Manual focus, an A series 50/1.4 or 50/1.7 works very well too. But I would strongly recommend the Pentax FA50/1.4 anyway ... I find this to be a superb lens for both manual and auto focus operation, with top notch image quality, resolution and contrast. Godfrey Thanks for the clarification, Godfrey. You are right. I was blurring the distinction between auto aperture, and auto diaphragm, and there certanly is a difference. I too have the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, and love the lens. My wife calls it her lens. Not sure why, except that whenever I grab the camera after she has used it I find the 50mm mounted on it. :) Strictly speaking, I've had the lens at least twice as long as I've had her. lol While on the topic of lenses, I have a love hate relationship with my 16-45. I love it because it's so good that I don't get that feeling of I wish I had taken that shot with a prime. I hate it because it is so good that I can't seem to justify buying standard and wide primes within its zoom range. It is the only thing standing between me and a 35mm f/2, a 20mm f/2.8, or a 14mm f/2.8.
RE: Whatta Lias! _was_ Lenses
Wow that's a first. Subject said Whatta a List when I sent it. (Really, I just checked!) ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Whatta Lias! _was_ Lenses
Re: GESO or PESO - the calendar is done - phew!
Jack Davis wrote: html. Do you have a favorite program for such? Jack UM... for what? I write raw html code for my homepage - was that your question? The contact sheet was made in photoshop elements - the photos were all numbered in the order they appear on the calendar. Then it becomes a file and I just added a tiny bit of text and paint-bucketed the background. I did a bit of fixin to the page and took otu that other link that showed the pics on a white background http://users.rcn.com/annsan/indexcalendar.html ann
Re: OT: need a favor
Gary Sibio wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Could one of you guys in the USA who has Windoze and Adobe Acrobat take my MS Word 97 file for the calendar and make it a PDF? The person I thought who could and would do it for me turns out not to have the stuff for it. WordPerfect will also produce a PDF. You can import the file and then use File | Export | PDF. Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio Alas, I don't have Word Perfect. only WORD 97 for windoze... I have an option to save a doc file as a word perfect file - and a doc file as a mac file but I wouldn't know when it was done if it worked :) ann
Re: OT: need a favor
Paul Sorenson wrote: If you haven't found anyone else, I'd be happy to do it. Just send me the file and I'll get the PDF back to you either e-mail, CD or both. -P Paul - I actually got not one but two offers jsut a while ago :) I'm waiting for first guy's snail mail addy thanks very much for offering ann
Re: WTB: Minolta Dimage IV Scanner
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:59:32 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:34:57 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree about Minolta software. I've been using the Scan Dual II since 2000 and the supplied software is junk. Vuescan works just great for me, I've been using it for years and thousands of scans so i know it very well now. If you want something that might be easier/slicker, do a google search for SilverFast. It's very good software, I had an eval copy that I tested extensively. However, I preferred Vuescan and found it to produce a better scan once learned. Thanks for the tip on Silverfast, I'll check it out. Does anyone have links to something lika a Vuescan tutorial? I seem to recall someone writing something a while back, and that it was available as a PDF document on-line. However, Ed's been improving the Clear as mud, thanks :p Vuescan user interface step by step, so I don't know how useful the old tutorial document might be. Perhaps I should write one... I wouldn't mind if you would :o) Meanwhile, I found the user manual: that might give me a start... -- Regards, Lucas -- Regards, Lucas
Re: need a favor
Don Sanderson wrote: Hi Ann, I left this on the list because it may be of use to others. If you go to www.download.com and search for: PDF Printer Driver or Convert to PDF or Print to PDF you will find several small programs that install like a printer driver. You then simply print _any_ document to it and it turns it into a .PDF file. Some are free, and some are very cheap. Look at the rating on downloads.com, it tells you which ones people have found the most useful. I use one called docuPrinter LT from http://www.neevia.com/ it works very well for me and several of my customers. HTH Don I actually got an offer for a conversion and I'm taking him up on it. I'm a little leary of downloading stuff from the web and have a few serious techno gaps in my so-called brain. though the file is a document, it needs to be able to hold onto the right color space (I may be making this up though:) :) The only reason I have for putting it in PDF format is so that the document would be read only for people who wanted and were able to print out the calendar for themselves more cheaply and better than I can. ann
Re: Whatta Lias! _was_ Lenses
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:18:27 +0100, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you want to get an inexpensive non-AF lens that is truly excellent try the SMC Pentax-A 50/1.7, cheap and very, very good. Don is absolutely right: with regards to value for money, the A50/1.7 is _very_ hard to beat. I only dislike the way bright spots/highlights in dark scenes turn to hexagons. For more lens opinions, see http://stans-photography.info/. Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas
Re: Lenses
On Dec 13, 2005, at 11:21 AM, David Oswald wrote: While on the topic of lenses, I have a love hate relationship with my 16-45. I love it because it's so good that I don't get that feeling of I wish I had taken that shot with a prime. I hate it because it is so good that I can't seem to justify buying standard and wide primes within its zoom range. It is the only thing standing between me and a 35mm f/2, a 20mm f/2.8, or a 14mm f/2.8. For me, the DA14/2.8 is a different order of beast at the wide end ... I find it a better performer than the 16-45 with nicer image rendering, and its better corrected as well. I wasn't happy with the bulk and weight of the 16-45 and replaced it with the FA20-35. Much lighter and more compact, even better performance from my testing (particularly on rendering). It replaces the 20-35mm range of primes almost entirely for me, but I also have the FA35/2 AL. Two stops more speed is worth it, and the FA35 is an incredibly high quality lens. It's nearly as good as the FA31/1.8 at one-third the price, and is smaller and lighter than either the FA31 or the DA16-45 in the bargain. That was worth the price of admission. :-) Godfrey
RE: PESO - Dare to be different
As I look again, I think for a small print, the leaf in question is probably not a problem. If I were to crop it... Looking at the out of focus leaf on the right and where it contacts the leaf to it's left, one can see a heart-shaped 'window' to the backgound. Personally I would crop just enough so that the entire heart-shaped window was excluded. I think cropping less so that a portion of that window was still visible would create a distraction. Anyway that's my thoughts. Tom C. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Dare to be different Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:56:31 -0700 Hi Bruce, I've taken quite a few shots similar to this and my satisfaction rate is pretty low. I like this one. The colors and bokeh are really pleasing. The first thing that hits me is the out of focus leaf on the right. May be better w/o it. Somehow I think it's difficult for shots like this to 'stand on their own'. I don't know why. I can see it fitting quite nicely in a small framed (like 5 x 7) and matted wall grouping of similar shots (trees and leaves)... Four shots maybe? Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Dare to be different Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:43:04 -0800 Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2451.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
