RE: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Bladt
William wrote:
Two bidders gone into hysteria.

That happens quite often. I quite often find my self being the one setting
the final price - and the item being sold for just a little above my final
bid.
That is when I choose to back off, rather than go into a hysterical bidding
competition.
Sniping is much better. When I really want the item, I often get it. Bidding
double within the last 20 seconds usually does it.
If more bidders do just that simultaneously, the auction goes nuts


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- Original Message -
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !


 Look at this.

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290039855648

 Two bidders gone into hysteria.
 I have never seen one sell for more than $400
 Before.

No accounting for lunacy.

William Robb


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RE: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Bob W
that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn things
in Trafalgar Square.

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 Behalf Of Joseph Tainter
 Sent: 23 October 2006 00:55
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 Subject: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
 
 My wife wanted to feed the pigeons:
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754
 
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Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.

2006-10-23 Thread John Francis

It will suffer from running out of metering range, though, just
as the Pentax green button stop-down metering workaround does.

Nor is it quite as easy to predict what it will do.  It sounds as
though the camera picks an aperture setting it wants to use, moves
the stop down actuator to the position that would produce the chosen
aperture with an A lens mounted, and then does a quick stop-down
metering step to adjust the shutter speed based on the actual
aperture (which, on a K/M lens, will not match the chosen aperture).

I guess it's OK as an alternative to full program mode; most of
the time people wouldn't care too much if the program got shifted
slightly (I'd expect less than half a stop difference most of the
time).  But I would get annoyed trying to use this as a substitute
for either aperture priority or shutter priority (unless the camera
adjusted aperture based on the stop down metering, not the shutter
speed); when I choose a shutter speed or an aperture value I want
the camera to do exactly what I ask, not some approximation to it.


On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 09:31:25PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
 Ah, but it is open aperture. The second metering after stop-down is 
 merely for confirmation that the aperture was selected correctly.
 
 -Adam
 
 
 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
  Its not open aperture either which is a big
  Difference too and wont even work at all
  In low light with smaller fstops ( meter sensitivity
  is sucked away by stop down method at small stops. )
  jco
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Adam Maas
  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:37 PM
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  Subject: Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.
  
  If the aperture is set to minimum, you get Programed AE. It follows the 
  program line. And you only get an extremely short delay to teh firing of
  
  the shutter (Which is exactly the same delay you get with any camera 
  using pe-flash based TTL flash, like all P-TTL pentax bodies).
  
  So yes, this is Programmed AE. It's just not as elegant as pentax's 
  solution.
  
  -Adam
  
  
  J. C. O'Connell wrote:
  I do not understand what you have posted.
  How can the camera set the aperture when
  Its turned by hand? If you just leave 
  The fstop at minimum all the time you
  Are not really getting true program operation
  If the fstops are approximate, metering is stopped down, and you
  Don't get instant exposure when you fire
  The shutter LIKE PENTAX DOES. They may be
  Calling that programmed AE but its not 
  The same as pentaxes programmed AE which is much better
  And without those degradations. We are talking
  About two different modes here with the same name
  Which is bad. Blame that on Chinon if they
  Call it the same as pentax's programmed mode.
  jco
 
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  Of
  Adam Maas
  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:19 PM
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  Subject: Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.
 
  Funny, but my Chinon CP-6 does programmed exposure (with two seperate 
  selectable program lines) with K/M lenses.
 
  It does this by selecting the desired aperture, attempting to set it, 
  then remetering to confirm.
 
  The Nikon FA does the same thing with AI and Ai converted lenses in 
  Program and Shutter priority modes. AI lenses are functionaly
  identical 
  to K/M lenses apart from their ability to mechnically communicate 
  maximum aperture (the FA is one of two bodies which takes full
  advantage
  of that to allow matrix metering).
 
  So reality proves you wrong.
 
  -Adam
 
 
  J. C. O'Connell wrote:
  K/M lenses cannot support programmed
  Exposure modes because in programmed
  Exposrue modes the camera choosed the
  Fstop and the shutter speed based on
  Light condtions. K/M lenses cannot
  Have their fstops set by the body because
  They lack the consistant linear stop
  Down levers ( even non-linear compensation
  Wont work because the lensse are inconsistant
  If you try to stop them down by partially
  Actuating the stop down lever).
 
  IF it were possible pentax wouldn't have
  Bothered with A series lenses.
  jco
 
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  Subject: Some observations on lens mount capability.
 
  I've been thinking about exactly what K/M lenses are capable of, and
  a
  few asides.
 
  First off, you can do at least Program mode with K/M lenses. In fact
  I
  own a camera that offers this with K lenses(Chinon CP-6 Dual Program)
  
  and another that does this with the functionally identical Nikon AI 
  lenses (Nikon FA). Shutter Priority is also possible if you are
  willing 
  to override shutter speed selection in some cases (the Nikon FA does 
  this with AI and earlier lenses) in both cases the camera 

Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread John Francis

Pigeons or tourists?

On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:51:53AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
 that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn things
 in Trafalgar Square.
 
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 Cheers,
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  Sent: 23 October 2006 00:55
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
  
  My wife wanted to feed the pigeons:
  
  http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754
  
  Joe
  
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RE: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Bob W
:o)

pigeons! They brought in a hawk to scare them away. I reckon an eagle
should do it for the tourists.

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
 
 
 Pigeons or tourists?
 
 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:51:53AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
  that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn
things
  in Trafalgar Square.
  
  --
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   Bob 
  
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   Subject: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
   
   My wife wanted to feed the pigeons:
   
   http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754
   
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Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Nice photo.
So, what can they bring in to scare the tourists away More pigeons?
Regards

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:o)

pigeons! They brought in a hawk to scare them away. I reckon an eagle
should do it for the tourists.

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 Bob 

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
 
 
 Pigeons or tourists?
 
 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:51:53AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
  that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn
things
  in Trafalgar Square.
  
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob 
  
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   Subject: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo
   
   My wife wanted to feed the pigeons:
   
   http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754
   
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Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread David Savage
Signs reading:

Warning! Potential bird flu hot spot

Dave

At 03:18 PM 23/10/2006, Jens Bladt wrote:
Nice photo.
So, what can they bring in to scare the tourists away More pigeons?
Regards

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:o)

pigeons! They brought in a hawk to scare them away. I reckon an eagle
should do it for the tourists.

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Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn things
in Trafalgar Square.


Have we?
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RE: Somebody talk me out of it

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Yes, well raod racing is probably predictable enough for manual focusing.
Other things may not be. But then again - Pentax AF often isn't fast enough
for moving subjects.
However - I have seen pretty good results with Sigma AF 170-500mm - perhaps
using non Pentax bodies:
http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Africa/South_Africa/photo6625.htm
The photographer actually complains about haw slow this lens is and would
prefer a HSM lens.

When shootingh Ping-Pong players, I too use MF on the FA* 80-200mm:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/268361406/

Still, 500mm is a lot of focal length, especially on an APS size sensor
(750mm).

Regards

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On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

 Talking you out of this is quite easy, I believe.
 Long lenses with MF are VERY difficult to use successfully.

My experience is exactly the opposite. I generally get much better
results with manual focus when shooting with very long lenses, even
shooting dynamic subjects. About the best work I've done with
autofocus and a long lens was shooting motorcycle roadracing using a
Canon 10D and 300/4L IS lens, using the 10D's predictive continuous
focus and the IS for hand held work. Most of the time, a much better
result has been had by using a tripod, careful setup, and patience.

Godfrey

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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread J and K Messervy
They should have anticipated the demand. Anyone could see a body with those 
specs for that price would be in high demand.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: For those who worry about K10D release...


 I've pre-ordered in a couple of places. No one has asked for money
 down. They will charge the card when the camera ships. Not a problem.
 I think Pentax is being very up front about this. I applaud thier
 handling of this release. Obviously, the camera is going to be in
 great demand. They may not have anticipated that, but they're
 handling it well. Kudos to them. Good news for us.
 Paul
 On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 23/10/06, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good news!  Ned Bunnell, Pentax Marketing Director in the US, advises
 that the US release is still scheduled for early November in this DPR
 Pentax forum thread:  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
 forum=1036message=20561036

 His post was in reply to a somewhat intemperate post (actually only
 one of many) by a regular in that forum.  Frankly, I wouldn't have
 been so gentle...

 If Pentax weren't so ambiguous in their limited press-releases these
 lines of questions wouldn't be so prevalent but they don't. There
 appear to be a lot of people who have put money down on a new K10D, if
 I were one of them I too would be keen for confirmation of the actual
 delivery dates. Potential buyers will always ask questions so it's
 inappropriate to place the blame other than with Pentax.

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Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases

2006-10-23 Thread Brian Walters
I've been looking for a camera/laptop bag too.  The one that seems nearest to 
my requirements is the Lowepro CompuDaypack: 

http://www.lowepro.com/Products/Backpacks/notebook_camera/CompuDaypack.aspx

It would probably meet your needs but I'd be interested in hearing  any other 
suggestions.

Delsey also make one but it's a bit bigger than the Lowepro:

http://www.delsey-camerabags.com/view_product.php?productid=16PHPSESSID=10e66b44050154f7f52c7b94660ed3c2



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia


Quoting rodney almodovar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello ya'll,
 I've just recently taken a trip without my partner which meant
 I
 couldn't shove my laptop/charger into his carryon while I lugged
 the
 camera in my carryon.  So I need a rugged yet flexible
 camera/laptop
 case which I can use for my very few solo travel plans. I'd like
 something that can hold my laptop, small charger, my *istD, 2
 lens,
 flash, offcamera flash bracket.  Needless to say, this will also
 include room for cards, filters, batteries and other small
 accesories.
 
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My 67 has arrived, first impressions

2006-10-23 Thread J and K Messervy
First impressionit's enormous!  I've loaded some film and it wasn't 
particularly tricky.

The metered prism is a little loose on it's mounting, on close inspection, 
the foam around the prism is almost gone...I hope that doesn't affect the 
operation.

I don't have a lens yet, it's arriving tomorrow.  The meter needle in the 
prism has not moved when I've turned it on and fiddled with it.  I'm hoping 
that it only works with a lens attached.  If it is supposed to work even 
without a lens attached, then it's stuffed.  :(

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Re: My 67 has arrived

2006-10-23 Thread Doug Miles
I think you're in for a pleasant surprise! Congratulations... I got quite
fond of my old non-MLU 6x7 I got used in '76, so much so it gained three
siblings...:D It handles well, and that big negative really makes a
difference.

Have fun!
Mi Doug

On 10/22/06 21:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve! My wife has rung me at work
 to say my Pentax 67 has arrived from the US. Now I'm stuck at
 work for 3 more hours before I can go home and play with it!
 I've never seen a 67 in the flesh, only in photos, so I'm
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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, J and K Messervy wrote:

 They should have anticipated the demand. Anyone could see a body with those
 specs for that price would be in high demand.

Their problem was that they *had* to announce at Photokina. The 
development slipped a little, so everything slipped a little.

I ag ree with Paul, everything is nice and dandy.

Kostas

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Re: Grandaughters

2006-10-23 Thread John Coyle
Very cute James - a definite contender!
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Subject: Re: Grandaughters


 Well, I'm far too young to have a grandaughter, but here's my youngest
 daughter lighting up the room at 7 weeks.  These were taken about 4 hours
 ago.  :)

 http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/Wildamusement.jpg

 http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/smile_5.jpg

 http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/SMILE_1.jpg

 http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/ShermanHJ60/Mildamusement.jpg

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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
You too, Kostas, my son...

So, regarding your latest coments on the K10D, don't forget to take it with 
yout in your next visit to Barcelona...

;-)


- Mensaje original 
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Asunto: Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, J and K Messervy wrote:

 They should have anticipated the demand. Anyone could see a body with those
 specs for that price would be in high demand.

Their problem was that they *had* to announce at Photokina. The 
development slipped a little, so everything slipped a little.

I ag ree with Paul, everything is nice and dandy.

Kostas

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Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Boris Liberman
For some reason, I was sure the pigeons were a part of attraction...

 that makes me feel really pleased that we got rid of the damn things
 in Trafalgar Square.

Last year I've taken a photo of nice looking girl sitting among the
pigeons... Pity I managed to cut off a head of bypasser, thus I
couldn't really publish it...

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Re: PDML Germany?

2006-10-23 Thread Kristian-H. Schüssler
Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 My travels will be taking me to Cologne and Gottingen
 in about two weeks.  It would be fun to meet some
 PDMLers, drink some beer, and shoot.
 
 Email me off-list if available.
 
 Rick
 
 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
 

Dear Rick,
  sorry, it's not possible to go to Cologne 
or Göttingen for me to meet you there. 
Its to far away for a one-day-trip.

But I'm Living near Offenburg and Strasbourg
(France)in Hornberg (Blackforest/Mittelbaden, 
Baden-Württemberg).

Hornberg, Offenburg, Strasbourg, Freiburg 
would be ok for me to meet you. Perhaps you are travelling
also in this part of Bundesrepublik Germany ?

I wish you a very good time in Germany.

Yours
Kristian - Heinrich

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PESO Purple leaf

2006-10-23 Thread wowens1
While visiting the local botanical garden Saturday, I couldn't resist 
taking this shot.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5107835


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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

 So, regarding your latest coments on the K10D, don't forget to take 
 it with yout in your next visit to Barcelona...

Err, I am well pleased for Pentax and for all you happy people 
with preorders and intentions to buy it. The K10D is going to be 
one fine camera, apart from its catastrophic flaw: it does not 
take film. I am pleased to say it's going to be the MZ-S again :-)

Kostas

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AW: Pentax Spotting at today's Brazilian Grand Prix

2006-10-23 Thread Markus Maurer
No wonder she has the biggest smile!
Well seen
greetings
Markus

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http://www.formula1.com/photos/597x478/sutton/2006/d06bra1472.jpg

Mixed in amongst the rest of the crowd photos. :-)

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AW: PESO Purple leaf

2006-10-23 Thread Markus Maurer
I dislike the rock in the background somehow but the leaf itself and the
floor color are very nice and well seen.
greetings
Markus

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While visiting the local botanical garden Saturday, I couldn't resist
taking this shot.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5107835


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Re: USA tour 2004 now online

2006-10-23 Thread Jan van Wijk
Thanks for the comments Ken!

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:10:14 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A wonderful remembrance of your trip.

Yes, I found that without having them readily available somewhere
even I don't get to see them. (unless I browse my RAW archives :-)

I'll be putting another up shortly, a 2005 USA trip ...

I especially appreciated the speed with which the thumbnails downloaded - 
I'm on dialup.

OK, good.
I designed the galleries with that in mind, quick enough to get 
an overview, yet with images large enough to enjoy if you
select one from the thumbnails.

It is simple HTML generated by PHP server-side software,
no fancy (and slow!) stuff needed at the browser :-)

You hit some of my favorite places here in Michigan - the Upper Peninsula.

Yes I really enjoyed that trip, would have liked to spend more time ...

If you ever swing by, give me  steady Paul a note  we could meet - we both 
live within 25 miles of downtown Detroit.

I would have been two weeks ago (conference in Windsor), 
but healt conditions in the family did not permit a longer absence ...

Regards, JvW


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Subject: GESO: USA tour 2004 now online


 From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls, 
 Michigan upper and lower peninsula, along the Mississippi to St Louis, 
over the plains to Denver Colorado and back to Chicago.

 http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10

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Re: USA tour 2004 now online

2006-10-23 Thread Jan van Wijk
Thanks for looking Paul!

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:27:09 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Wow! Some great stuff here. Ditto what Ken said.


Regards, JvW

 From a trip I made in October 2004, from Chicago to Niagara falls,
 Michigan upper and lower peninsula, along the Mississippi to 
 St Louis, over the plains to Denver  Colorado and back to Chicago.

 http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=10

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread Bob Shell

On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:31 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Possessive is Power's. Sorry for not
 Including the ' but I do it to
 Save time typing as I am very slow typer
 With the ' key.

http://www.meredith.edu/grammar/plural.htm

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Re: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-23 Thread keith_w
Jens Bladt wrote:
 William wrote:
 Two bidders gone into hysteria.

 That happens quite often. I quite often find my self being the one setting
 the final price - and the item being sold for just a little above my final
 bid.
 That is when I choose to back off, rather than go into a hysterical bidding
 competition.
 Sniping is much better. When I really want the item, I often get it. Bidding
 double within the last 20 seconds usually does it.
 If more bidders do just that simultaneously, the auction goes nuts
 
 
 Jens Bladt

That's why I never mention the technique to anyone else...
I don't particularly like the term sniping because of the connotation 
baggage it carries.
I choose to call it an intelligent bidding technique.
As with you, if I decide I really want an item, I rarely lose it.

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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Why that link? I know the apostrophe is
Supposed to be there but I told you I omit it on purpose
On this list and others. This isnt a job resume.
Its dirt cheap disposable internet quick typed chat.
The apostrophe is a hard key to hit for me when
Touch typing fast( it uses the right pinky in a weird
Lateral move from base semicolon.)

Jco (notice the missing apostrophes again?)

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Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:01 AM
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On Oct 22, 2006, at 8:31 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Possessive is Power's. Sorry for not
 Including the ' but I do it to
 Save time typing as I am very slow typer
 With the ' key.

http://www.meredith.edu/grammar/plural.htm

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Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases

2006-10-23 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Rodney,

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:11:00 -0500, rodney almodovar wrote:

   I've just recently taken a trip without my partner which meant I
couldn't shove my laptop/charger into his carryon while I lugged the
camera in my carryon.  So I need a rugged yet flexible camera/laptop
case which I can use for my very few solo travel plans. I'd like
something that can hold my laptop, small charger, my *istD, 2 lens,
flash, offcamera flash bracket.  Needless to say, this will also
include room for cards, filters, batteries and other small accesories.

I have a Lowepro 'CompuTrekker' for that purpose.
It has a seperate laptop area (upto 16 inch I think)
and enough room for a DSLR with a few lenses.

It is (just) small enough to be allowed as carry-on ...

Regards, JvW

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Re: $890 for a 85mm f1.8 SMCT lens !

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Bladt
I get you point. I just got an Ensign Rosstar (645) vintage English folding
vamera- byaccident, actually. I did bid a very small amount.
I recently got two Perkeo I's the same way.
Sometimes I think - if I get it very cheap it's OK. If I don't,  that's fine
too.
Serious sniping I have only done a few times. Once for the SMC Pentax-A
3.5 35-105mm (not ebay).
I bid like 100 USD above the high bidder in the last seconds. That did pay
off. Got it for 110 USD. I was told by the PDML, that it's a great lens.
It certailny is, although the focus distance is really not short enough for
macro:-)

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
+45 23 43 85 77
Skype: jensbladt248

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Jens Bladt wrote:
 William wrote:
 Two bidders gone into hysteria.

 That happens quite often. I quite often find my self being the one setting
 the final price - and the item being sold for just a little above my final
 bid.
 That is when I choose to back off, rather than go into a hysterical
bidding
 competition.
 Sniping is much better. When I really want the item, I often get it.
Bidding
 double within the last 20 seconds usually does it.
 If more bidders do just that simultaneously, the auction goes nuts


 Jens Bladt

That's why I never mention the technique to anyone else...
I don't particularly like the term sniping because of the connotation
baggage it carries.
I choose to call it an intelligent bidding technique.
As with you, if I decide I really want an item, I rarely lose it.

keith


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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread Bob Shell

On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:23 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Why that link? I know the apostrophe is
 Supposed to be there but I told you I omit it on purpose
 On this list and others. This isnt a job resume.
 Its dirt cheap disposable internet quick typed chat.
 The apostrophe is a hard key to hit for me when
 Touch typing fast( it uses the right pinky in a weird
 Lateral move from base semicolon.)

What kind of keyboard do you have?  On mine the apostrophe is just to  
the left of the return key.  When I want to type joe's an idiot I  
use my ring finger to hit the apostrophe and don't even notice.  I  
learned touch typing in the 60s and seem to recall that the  
apostrophe is somewhere else on a typewriter keyboard, but no longer  
have one of those beasts.  Personally, I think proper punctuation is  
essential to accurate communication.

Bob

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RE: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread Tim Øsleby
If it was not presented as a tourist shot, then I would have said that the
background is way to distracting. 

As a tourist shot it is very entertaining. It made me smile. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

My wife wanted to feed the pigeons:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/6997754

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Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions

2006-10-23 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 First impressionit's enormous!  I've loaded some film and it wasn't
 particularly tricky.

 The metered prism is a little loose on it's mounting, on close inspection,
 the foam around the prism is almost gone...I hope that doesn't affect the
 operation.

 I don't have a lens yet, it's arriving tomorrow.  The meter needle in the
 prism has not moved when I've turned it on and fiddled with it.  I'm hoping
 that it only works with a lens attached.  If it is supposed to work even
 without a lens attached, then it's stuffed.  :(

 James


Look at the bottom of the camera, you'll see a compartment for a samll  
battery. You'll need one for the meter.
I don't usually use the meter on board, but use my handheld.


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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread J and K Messervy
Ultimately, It'll arrive when it arrives.  Being impatient by nature,  I 
want it and I want it NOW! :)  It won't kill me to wait though.  I hope I 
have it in my hands before 13 Dec as I'll be going with a bunch of mates to 
a local racetrack where I'll be using it to take shots of them circulating 
on their motorbikes.  The DL's autofocus will be hopeless for that.

James
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Subject: Re: For those who worry about K10D release...


 On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, J and K Messervy wrote:

 They should have anticipated the demand. Anyone could see a body with 
 those
 specs for that price would be in high demand.

 Their problem was that they *had* to announce at Photokina. The
 development slipped a little, so everything slipped a little.

 I ag ree with Paul, everything is nice and dandy.

 Kostas

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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, J and K Messervy wrote:

 have it in my hands before 13 Dec as I'll be going with a bunch of mates to
 a local racetrack where I'll be using it to take shots of them circulating
 on their motorbikes.  The DL's autofocus will be hopeless for that.

Being conservative by nature, I would avoid shooting with a new to me 
equipment without much practice/familiarisation first.

Oh, and I can only photograph kids on a swing if prefocussed; 
extrapolate for racing :-)

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Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions

2006-10-23 Thread J and K Messervy
The camera has a battery in it and the battery is ok, according to the test 
lamp.  Certainly the shutter fires ok.

James
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Subject: Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions


 Quoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 First impressionit's enormous!  I've loaded some film and it wasn't
 particularly tricky.

 The metered prism is a little loose on it's mounting, on close 
 inspection,
 the foam around the prism is almost gone...I hope that doesn't affect the
 operation.

 I don't have a lens yet, it's arriving tomorrow.  The meter needle in the
 prism has not moved when I've turned it on and fiddled with it.  I'm 
 hoping
 that it only works with a lens attached.  If it is supposed to work even
 without a lens attached, then it's stuffed.  :(

 James


 Look at the bottom of the camera, you'll see a compartment for a samll
 battery. You'll need one for the meter.
 I don't usually use the meter on board, but use my handheld.


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Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.

2006-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
The camera in question also does Aperture Priority, and you can limit 
how far the program modes will stop down by setting the aperture to 
other than minimum.

-Adam


John Francis wrote:
 It will suffer from running out of metering range, though, just
 as the Pentax green button stop-down metering workaround does.
 
 Nor is it quite as easy to predict what it will do.  It sounds as
 though the camera picks an aperture setting it wants to use, moves
 the stop down actuator to the position that would produce the chosen
 aperture with an A lens mounted, and then does a quick stop-down
 metering step to adjust the shutter speed based on the actual
 aperture (which, on a K/M lens, will not match the chosen aperture).
 
 I guess it's OK as an alternative to full program mode; most of
 the time people wouldn't care too much if the program got shifted
 slightly (I'd expect less than half a stop difference most of the
 time).  But I would get annoyed trying to use this as a substitute
 for either aperture priority or shutter priority (unless the camera
 adjusted aperture based on the stop down metering, not the shutter
 speed); when I choose a shutter speed or an aperture value I want
 the camera to do exactly what I ask, not some approximation to it.
 
 
 On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 09:31:25PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
 Ah, but it is open aperture. The second metering after stop-down is 
 merely for confirmation that the aperture was selected correctly.

 -Adam


 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 Its not open aperture either which is a big
 Difference too and wont even work at all
 In low light with smaller fstops ( meter sensitivity
 is sucked away by stop down method at small stops. )
 jco

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:37 PM
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 Subject: Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.

 If the aperture is set to minimum, you get Programed AE. It follows the 
 program line. And you only get an extremely short delay to teh firing of

 the shutter (Which is exactly the same delay you get with any camera 
 using pe-flash based TTL flash, like all P-TTL pentax bodies).

 So yes, this is Programmed AE. It's just not as elegant as pentax's 
 solution.

 -Adam


 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 I do not understand what you have posted.
 How can the camera set the aperture when
 Its turned by hand? If you just leave 
 The fstop at minimum all the time you
 Are not really getting true program operation
 If the fstops are approximate, metering is stopped down, and you
 Don't get instant exposure when you fire
 The shutter LIKE PENTAX DOES. They may be
 Calling that programmed AE but its not 
 The same as pentaxes programmed AE which is much better
 And without those degradations. We are talking
 About two different modes here with the same name
 Which is bad. Blame that on Chinon if they
 Call it the same as pentax's programmed mode.
 jco

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 Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:19 PM
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 Subject: Re: Some observations on lens mount capability.

 Funny, but my Chinon CP-6 does programmed exposure (with two seperate 
 selectable program lines) with K/M lenses.

 It does this by selecting the desired aperture, attempting to set it, 
 then remetering to confirm.

 The Nikon FA does the same thing with AI and Ai converted lenses in 
 Program and Shutter priority modes. AI lenses are functionaly
 identical 
 to K/M lenses apart from their ability to mechnically communicate 
 maximum aperture (the FA is one of two bodies which takes full
 advantage
 of that to allow matrix metering).

 So reality proves you wrong.

 -Adam


 J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 K/M lenses cannot support programmed
 Exposure modes because in programmed
 Exposrue modes the camera choosed the
 Fstop and the shutter speed based on
 Light condtions. K/M lenses cannot
 Have their fstops set by the body because
 They lack the consistant linear stop
 Down levers ( even non-linear compensation
 Wont work because the lensse are inconsistant
 If you try to stop them down by partially
 Actuating the stop down lever).

 IF it were possible pentax wouldn't have
 Bothered with A series lenses.
 jco

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 Of
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 Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:23 PM
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 Subject: Some observations on lens mount capability.

 I've been thinking about exactly what K/M lenses are capable of, and
 a
 few asides.

 First off, you can do at least Program mode with K/M lenses. In fact
 I
 own a camera that offers this with K lenses(Chinon CP-6 Dual Program)
 and another that does this with the functionally identical Nikon AI 
 lenses (Nikon FA). Shutter Priority is also possible if you are
 willing 
 to override shutter speed selection in some 

Re: matrix metering

2006-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
yes, in P, Tv and Av. Exposure compensation is manual only in manual mode.

-Adam

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 Can you just dial in aay, ½ a stop exposure compensation
 And shoot like that all the time in all the exposure modes?
 jco
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 12:48 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: matrix metering
 
 On Oct 22, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 Just to be pedantic, I'll note the FA had AMP (Automatic multi- 
 pattern)
 metering, matrix metering was introduced on the F801/N8008 (The  
 hardware
 was identical though).
 
 Sure, I'll give you that. ;-)
 
 To this day, I find the FA has one of the best meters Nikon's ever
 produced. In testing, I found it to outperform the later 6 segment  
 units
 that Nikon used in the late 90's and early 2000's in the low and
 mid-range bodies. It also performed as well as the 8 segment unit  
 in the
 F90/F90x.
 
 I wanted an FA at one point but was satisfied with the FE2 and FM2,  
 F3. Some folks told me there were a few quality problems with the  
 FAs, but that didn't make the metering system an issue. Never did get  
 on with the later low-, mid-range Nikon film bodies.
 
 The 16 segment unit in the *ist's and k1x0D seem to be similarly
 accurate, and lack the Nikon 5-segment units one failing, the  
 occasional
 issue with portrait orientation.
 
 As I say, the only really issue I've found using the DS body for  
 these past 25,000 exposures is that it tends to underexpose by  
 0.3-0.7 EV when shooting RAW mode. I think this is because it doesn't  
 recalibrate exposure for RAW format, like the Sony R1 does. A small  
 issue for me.
 
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Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions

2006-10-23 Thread William Robb

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From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions



 Look at the bottom of the camera, you'll see a compartment for a samll
 battery. You'll need one for the meter.
 I don't usually use the meter on board, but use my handheld.


He'll need it for the shutter as well.
It's electronic.

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Re: OT: Epson Printer Profiles

2006-10-23 Thread wendy beard
it is disabled.
It's the same priniting out of qimage too

On 10/20/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Be sure ICM is disabled in the printer driver properties.  One of the
 results of enabling ICM in both Photoshop and the printer driver is
 prints that are too dark.

 -P

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
  Hmm. That sounds like the profiles R1800 aren't particularly good. It
  might be worth seeing if there are alternative profiles available or
  having a couple created for your printing needs.
 
  Godfrey
 
  On Oct 20, 2006, at 10:59 AM, wendy beard wrote:
 
  I used to own an Epson 2000P. When I switched to the R1800 my prints
  came out much darker too.
  The printing methodology I used was identical. Only difference being
  the profiles I chose (i.e R1800 ipo 2000P)
 
 
  Wendy
 
  On 10/19/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Alas, Godders, I tried all that after your reply to my
  message about a week ago, and I'm still getting prints
  that are MUCH darker and warm-color-shifted compared
  to what is on my (calibrated) monitor.
 
 


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Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo

2006-10-23 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt 
Subject: Re: PESO: Just a Tourist Photo


 Nice photo.
 So, what can they bring in to scare the tourists away More pigeons?

Hoodies.

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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How about because of your vile, disgusting language and rude behavior. 
It's one thing to argue incessantly over the same point, but your style
isn't fit for continuous human consumption.  

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: J. C. O'Connell 

 Screw You, dude. I don't see any reason why anyone
 Would need/want to leave the list because of my posts.



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Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As others have mentioned, the Lowepro CompuTrekker AW is excellent  
for this. The backpack layout makes it a cinch to carry through a  
busy airport and crowds, and I have had no problems at all using it  
for carryon. For a shoulder bag oriented carrying arrangement, the  
Lowepro Stealth Reporter 650AW is worth a look too.

There are a LOT of choices in this general vein from Lowepro, Tamrac,  
Domke, Kata, Billingham, and others. I like these too:

Domke F802 or F804 Reporters Satchel
Tamrac 469 - Photo Messenger 9
Tamrac 5261 - CyberPro Flyer

Godfrey


On Oct 22, 2006, at 10:11 PM, rodney almodovar wrote:

 I've just recently taken a trip without my partner which meant I
 couldn't shove my laptop/charger into his carryon while I lugged the
 camera in my carryon.  So I need a rugged yet flexible camera/laptop
 case which I can use for my very few solo travel plans. I'd like
 something that can hold my laptop, small charger, my *istD, 2 lens,
 flash, offcamera flash bracket.  Needless to say, this will also
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lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread cbwaters
I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:

When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace 
the caps all the time?

I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were taking 
photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a hurry to 
get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple hours 
and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, 
stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep the caps on 
when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump 
the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.

So, what do you do?

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Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases

2006-10-23 Thread Perry Pellechia
I really like my Timbuk2 Commute bag.  It has more than enough room
for my 15.4 wide screen notebook, *istD and two lens.  It also has
lots of internal sections to keep you organized.  It is very well made
and comfortable to lug around.   The styling is more suited for
notebook/messenger use, but it is quite handy to lug photo gear too.

http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/retail/catalog.htm?categoryId=7

Perry.

On 10/23/06, rodney almodovar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello ya'll,
 I've just recently taken a trip without my partner which meant I
 couldn't shove my laptop/charger into his carryon while I lugged the
 camera in my carryon.  So I need a rugged yet flexible camera/laptop
 case which I can use for my very few solo travel plans. I'd like
 something that can hold my laptop, small charger, my *istD, 2 lens,
 flash, offcamera flash bracket.  Needless to say, this will also
 include room for cards, filters, batteries and other small accesories.

 Thanks!
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lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Walter Hamler
I sorta do just as you talked about most of the time. I do try to find time 
to replace caps as time permits, especially since my bag is very limited on 
space.

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RE: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'll often do just that, but just as often I'll throw a cap on over the
hood - much easier and simpler than removing a hood and then adding a cap
to the lens.  Using caps that slip over the lens hood provide a simplicity
and ease of use and a degree of extra protection.

Isn't this a survey of sorts?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: cbwaters 

 I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep the caps on 
 when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump 
 the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.

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PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-10-23 Thread gray_wolf

http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Bob Shell

On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:45 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 So, what do you do?

I have a big ziplock plastic bag.  Whenever I get a new lens, the  
front cap comes off and goes in this bag.  The hood goes on the  
lens.  The only time the front cap ever sees the lens again is if I  
decide to sell the lens at some point.

Rear caps are different.  I keep one on any lens that isn't on a camera.

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Re: OT - Photo cards

2006-10-23 Thread wendy beard
What's the quality on the calendars like?
A friend and I have been looking into printers for calendars. She
wants to do a small quantity (around 100) to sell as a fundraiser. We
had a couple of sample pages printed up at Staples and I wasn't
impressed. I was even less impressed with Futureshop's offerings last
year though the card thickness and coil binding was superb, the
printing was terrible.

Wendy

On 10/22/06, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is off topic, but can anyone recommend an affordable site that
  prints folded photo holiday/greeting cards?

 I don't know if this fits what you're looking for, but I have an online
 photo store for my images through Cafe Press:

 http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto

 You can make folding cards, postcards, and myriad other items through them,
 and at decent prices too (all my prices have a little markup on them.  Check
 cafepress.com for the cost if you order them for yourself)

 John Celio

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
I tend to change the rear caps, but rely on my hoods to protect the 
front in such situations.

-Adam


cbwaters wrote:
 I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:
 
 When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace 
 the caps all the time?
 
 I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were taking 
 photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a hurry to 
 get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple hours 
 and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, 
 stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
 Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep the caps on 
 when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump 
 the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.
 
 So, what do you do?
 
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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/23/2006 7:14:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I tend to change the rear caps, but rely on my hoods to protect the 
front in such situations.

-Adam

Ditto. I put on a rear lens cap, but not always the front cap. If it has a 
hood it's usually okay in a camera bag. 

Although I must admit I like Shel's idea and have ever since he first 
mentioned it -- fitting a plastic cap over the hood, like one that would come 
off a 
hot chocolate can, coffee can, whatever. I have just never looked to see what 
might fit.

Want to run that past us again, Shel? What fits?

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: OT: Epson Printer Profiles

2006-10-23 Thread graywolf
My prints from the R-200 have been too dark also (about a stop I had 
been compensating by lightening the image before printing). Now, I just 
did some experimenting, printing a series of a small image with 
different settings. I get the closest match setting it to Let Photoshop 
determine colors, color management on, and no black point compensation. 
Don't know what options any other printer driver has though. I guess I 
will have to save this info someplace where I can find it again when I 
need it.

--graywolf


wendy beard wrote:
 it is disabled.
 It's the same priniting out of qimage too
 
 On 10/20/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Be sure ICM is disabled in the printer driver properties.  One of the
 results of enabling ICM in both Photoshop and the printer driver is
 prints that are too dark.

 -P

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Hmm. That sounds like the profiles R1800 aren't particularly good. It
 might be worth seeing if there are alternative profiles available or
 having a couple created for your printing needs.

 Godfrey

 On Oct 20, 2006, at 10:59 AM, wendy beard wrote:

 I used to own an Epson 2000P. When I switched to the R1800 my prints
 came out much darker too.
 The printing methodology I used was identical. Only difference being
 the profiles I chose (i.e R1800 ipo 2000P)


 Wendy

 On 10/19/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alas, Godders, I tried all that after your reply to my
 message about a week ago, and I'm still getting prints
 that are MUCH darker and warm-color-shifted compared
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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Jack Davis
A system I'm going to follow, to a greater degree, in the future. I
usually replace the front cap if moving on to the next possible shoot,
especially if traveling a dirt or gravel road.
At the end of the day, I've spent many a frustration 20 or 30 minutes
searching every inch of my rig for that one cap I I must have dropped
somewhere'. I didn't, I find many between the seat cushions or under
120 lbs of stuff in the rear cargo area.
I, also, spend some time changing from whatever filter back to a UV. (I
think I want the UV when in higher elevations).
Seems I've used every lens during the day. I did buy a couple folding
filter pouches and find them much handier than the frustration of
looking for the correct size filter case.
Ever leave a lens perched on a rock or log and walk off without it?
That can quickly get you out of the motel and back in the field..before
dark.
My evening motel relaxing/sipping time will start even sooner in the
future.

Jack
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 On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:45 AM, cbwaters wrote:
 
  So, what do you do?
 
 I have a big ziplock plastic bag.  Whenever I get a new lens, the  
 front cap comes off and goes in this bag.  The hood goes on the  
 lens.  The only time the front cap ever sees the lens again is if I  
 decide to sell the lens at some point.
 
 Rear caps are different.  I keep one on any lens that isn't on a
 camera.
 
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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've used caps from many sources - Jelly Belly containers, Hershey's syrup,
older caps from Pringles, various soup cans, baking powder or baking soda
caps, etc.  I no longer remember which caps fit what hoods.  Some caps
require a wrap or two of tape around the hood to make the fit secure.  And
I don't always know the origin of the hoods.  Some are generic that I've
acquired over the years, some are Pentax hoods from Super Tak lenses, some
are Nikon HN-series hoods, and I've even used a Pentax 6x7 hood on the
A*85/1.4.

Shel



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 Ditto. I put on a rear lens cap, but not always the front cap. If it 
 has a  hood it's usually okay in a camera bag. 

 Although I must admit I like Shel's idea and have ever since he first 
 mentioned it -- fitting a plastic cap over the hood, like one that would 
 come off a  hot chocolate can, coffee can, whatever. I have just never 
 looked to see what  might fit.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/23/2006 7:14:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I tend to change the rear caps, but rely on my hoods to protect the 
 front in such situations.
 
 -Adam
 
 Ditto. I put on a rear lens cap, but not always the front cap. If it has a 
 hood it's usually okay in a camera bag. 
 
 Although I must admit I like Shel's idea and have ever since he first 
 mentioned it -- fitting a plastic cap over the hood, like one that would come 
 off a 
 hot chocolate can, coffee can, whatever. I have just never looked to see what 
 might fit.
 
 Want to run that past us again, Shel? What fits?
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

The problem with that is that it doesn't work with petal hoods. Works 
like a charm with straight hoods though, so it's great for telezooms and 
primes that don't come with petal hoods.

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Re: PESO - Blast From the Past

2006-10-23 Thread Eactivist
Pot. Kettle. Black. ;-)

Thanks, I've decided to stick with A series and up for the K10D. Uh, not 
trying to start another you know what discussion here, but it just seems 
simpler.

Marnie aka Doe 

Thanks ... you're usually so critical and such a nit picker that an
unqualified pat on the back is something special.

BTW, that K120/2.8 is one great lens.  Highly recommended.

Shel
 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Old news, old story, old image, old gear, old film ...

 http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/blastfrompast.html

 =
 A true blast from the past, huh?

 Nice one, Shel. I really like the framing.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread graywolf
Schneider makes slip-on lens caps in a lot of sizes. You can order them 
off their website. Also a google search for slip-on and push-on lens 
caps will find some others. I have seen Tupperware lids used.

--graywolf


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/23/2006 7:14:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I tend to change the rear caps, but rely on my hoods to protect the 
 front in such situations.
 
 -Adam
 
 Ditto. I put on a rear lens cap, but not always the front cap. If it has a 
 hood it's usually okay in a camera bag. 
 
 Although I must admit I like Shel's idea and have ever since he first 
 mentioned it -- fitting a plastic cap over the hood, like one that would come 
 off a 
 hot chocolate can, coffee can, whatever. I have just never looked to see what 
 might fit.
 
 Want to run that past us again, Shel? What fits?
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

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Re: Camera/Laptop travel cases

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have the Commute XL model and have to agree (I chose the larger one  
as it can handle my PowerBook 15 as well as the slightly wider/ 
deeper photo portfolios I tend to carry around.)

The main compartment is a little awkward to get gear in and out of  
when I have the laptop in the bag, though, as it is long and somewhat  
narrow. It's certainly fine for use when carrying equipment on  
travel, and when using it as a shooting bag I just leave the laptop  
at home or in my hotel room so the bag is more suitable for field  
work. A set of padded lens divider pockets such as available for the  
Domke F802/F804 camera satchels works great with it too.

Godfrey

On Oct 23, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Perry Pellechia wrote:

 I really like my Timbuk2 Commute bag.  It has more than enough room
 for my 15.4 wide screen notebook, *istD and two lens.  It also has
 lots of internal sections to keep you organized.  It is very well made
 and comfortable to lug around.   The styling is more suited for
 notebook/messenger use, but it is quite handy to lug photo gear too.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
You may be right about that, but recently I made some tests using petal
hoods and found that in some instances straight hoods (to use your term)
provided better protection.  Very few of my lenses sport the hoods that
they came with, especially in this digital age.  A case in point is the
honking big hood that comes with the 16-45.  I swapped that for screw in,
straight hood (don't recall which one now as the lens was on loan and has
since been returned) that was smaller in many dimensions, provided better
protection from flare, and which would take a cap that slipped over the
hood.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Adam Maas 

  Although I must admit I like Shel's idea and have ever since he first 
  mentioned it -- fitting a plastic cap over the hood, like one that
would come off a 
  hot chocolate can, coffee can, whatever. I have just never looked to
see what 
  might fit.
  
  Want to run that past us again, Shel? What fits?
  
  Marnie aka Doe :-)
  

 The problem with that is that it doesn't work with petal hoods. Works 
 like a charm with straight hoods though, so it's great for telezooms and 
 primes that don't come with petal hoods.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/23/2006 7:55:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ever leave a lens perched on a rock or log and walk off without it?
That can quickly get you out of the motel and back in the field..before
dark.
My evening motel relaxing/sipping time will start even sooner in the
future.

Jack

No. Caps, yes. If I am going to shoot with more than one lens I take a camera 
bag. That's the only way I can carry more than one lens at a time anyway. And 
I check the bag before I move on to another location. As I get older I trust 
my memory less and less. 

Although I have driven off, twice, with a video I meant to return to the 
video store still sitting on top of the car. Once I bounced off before I got 
out 
of the driveway. Another, I made it about twenty minutes into my trip, then 
suddenly heard a bang, bang. Looked back and a video was in the street. Stopped 
the car at the side of road, ducked through heavy traffic and got it. Returned 
it, it was fine. Simply amazing it stayed on top that long. Both were fine, no 
extra charges either time. Of course, those were videos, not dvds. I and they 
might not fare as well now.

At least neither was a baby. :-)

Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread David Savage
I replace both front  rear cap at lens changes.

Dave

On 10/23/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:

 When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace
 the caps all the time?

 I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were taking
 photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a hurry to
 get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple hours
 and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench,
 stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
 Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep the caps on
 when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump
 the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.

 So, what do you do?

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yeah ... I forgot ...

The DA14 with fitted hood has a very very large front element and  
taking the lens hood on and off is a bit of a pain. I worried about  
the front element being scratched as the hood is not deep at all. So  
for that lens, I bought a large size OpTech Hood Hat, which stretches  
over the lens hood before I drop the lens into a slot in the bottom  
of the bag. Works like a charm and is much handier in the field than  
juggling a lens cap and the big lens hood.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Bob Shell

On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

 The problem with that is that it doesn't work with petal hoods. Works
 like a charm with straight hoods though, so it's great for  
 telezooms and
 primes that don't come with petal hoods.

I don't remember the brand name at the moment, but you can buy covers  
with elastic made to fit over jars, cups, bowls, etc., in the grocery  
story.  They are made of thin plastic like plastic bags, but the  
elastic holds them on and they will fit down over every petal hood I  
have encountered.  I keep some on hand to use in really dusty  
environments.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Godders,

I've done that for years, and it works great.  I can carry two lenses in
the space for one.  Some different techniques and epoxies have been tried,
and although none of the caps have separated, the later attempts both look
nicer and might even be a little stronger.  If you'd like some tips or
ideas, just let me know.  My first attempt was sent to Bob Walkden several
years ago, and AFAIK, he's still using the back-to-back caps I made for his
Leica glass.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 


 Another thing I'm going to do is buy six rear caps and glue them  
 together into pair. That will make it easier when doing a quick  
 change to transfer the cap from one lens to the next ... just connect  
 the lens you just took off to the one you just pulled out, then twist  
 the one going to the camera off and drop the other back into the bag.

 Godfrey


 On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:45 AM, cbwaters wrote:

  I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:
 
  When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do  
  you replace
  the caps all the time?
 
  I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were  
  taking
  photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a  
  hurry to
  get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple  
  hours
  and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every  
  bench,
  stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
  Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep  
  the caps on
  when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on  
  and dump
  the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.
 
  So, what do you do?


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Re: PESO - Blast From the Past

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It is simpler if you're buying new lenses, and at some point I'll get new
glass, but I've no plans to discard at least some of the mount glass I own.
Thing is, there's no fixed focal length 120mm lens available from Pentax
other than in K-mount.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks, I've decided to stick with A series and up for the K10D. Uh, not 
 trying to start another you know what discussion here, but it just seems
simpler.



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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My working kit for the trip I just returned from included three  
lenses (DA21, FA35, FA77) and the DS body.

I used a Tamrac SuperLight 5 case to work out of. I ripped out all  
the standard dividers and fitted two at the bottom of the bag to  
provide 'drop in' compartments for three lenses. On top of that I  
folded up a Domke Wrap to provide a soft cover for the lens  
compartments that the camera can sit on with a lens fitted. In  
addition, I slipped a climbing carabiner onto the shoulder strap to  
work in conjunction with the wrist strap I always have on the camera.

Like Bob, I remove the front caps when I buy a lens and fit a screw- 
in metal lens hood that sits permanently on the lens unless I put the  
lens into storage for some reason. Lenses drop into their 'slots' in  
the bottom of the bag hood down protecting the front element. If I'm  
working quickly, the rear cap is left off to minimize the possibility  
of losing them or scratching the rear element (the folded Domke Wrap  
will protect the back of the lens if you keep it clean). Normally, I  
work a little slower and replace the rear caps as I switch lenses for  
maximum protection.

I use three slots for carrying two lenses and one on the camera  
because that way you can always drop a lens into an available slot. I  
can also carry an additional lens that way.

The carabiner comes in handy if you need to juggle two lenses and a  
rear cap, want a third hand to hold the camera body. I just hang the  
body on the carabiner with the wrist strap.

Another thing I'm going to do is buy six rear caps and glue them  
together into pair. That will make it easier when doing a quick  
change to transfer the cap from one lens to the next ... just connect  
the lens you just took off to the one you just pulled out, then twist  
the one going to the camera off and drop the other back into the bag.

Godfrey


On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:45 AM, cbwaters wrote:

 I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:

 When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do  
 you replace
 the caps all the time?

 I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were  
 taking
 photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a  
 hurry to
 get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple  
 hours
 and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every  
 bench,
 stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
 Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep  
 the caps on
 when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on  
 and dump
 the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.

 So, what do you do?


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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
True ... and I've used a few when need be.  But they can be spendy and
sometimes hard to come by.  The supermarket approach is a lot less
expensive.  However, the bottom line is that there are numerous
alternatives to the more typically used lens cap.  BTW, even Pentax made
some slip on caps a while back, although I've only seen them for lenses
that took 49-mm and 52-mm lenses.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: graywolf 

 Schneider makes slip-on lens caps in a lot of sizes. 
 You can order them  off their website. Also a google 
 search for slip-on and push-on lens caps will find 
 some others. I have seen Tupperware lids used.



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Show in Japan

2006-10-23 Thread Joseph Tainter
We'll see how people report this weekend from Tokyo.

Ken

-

Ken, are reports of the weekend show coming in?

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: Somebody talk me out of it

2006-10-23 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 09:33:50AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote:
 Yes, well raod racing is probably predictable enough for manual focusing.
 Other things may not be. But then again - Pentax AF often isn't fast enough
 for moving subjects.

It's odd how people keep repeating this, and yet there are
several of us on this list who find the AF quite fast enough
to shoot race cars travelling at anything up to 200MPH.

That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement; I'm
really looking forward to the K10D with DA* SDM lenses.
But I miss a whole heck of a lot more shots by tripping
the shutter at the wrong time, or not quite getting all
the car in the frame, than I do to auto-focus failures.


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Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions

2006-10-23 Thread David J Brooks
The battery runs the meter and the shutter. I forgot to mention that  
in my earlier reply.

I tested mine with a roll of tranny film. Exposures were good and the  
photos very crisp.Thats what made me really appreciate this camera,  
the 6x7 slides.:-)


I'm happy with mine even if i did pay 3 times what you did.

vbg

Dave

Quoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The camera has a battery in it and the battery is ok, according to the test
 lamp.  Certainly the shutter fires ok.

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: My 67 has arrived, first impressions


 Quoting J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 First impressionit's enormous!  I've loaded some film and it wasn't
 particularly tricky.

 The metered prism is a little loose on it's mounting, on close
 inspection,
 the foam around the prism is almost gone...I hope that doesn't affect the
 operation.

 I don't have a lens yet, it's arriving tomorrow.  The meter needle in the
 prism has not moved when I've turned it on and fiddled with it.  I'm
 hoping
 that it only works with a lens attached.  If it is supposed to work even
 without a lens attached, then it's stuffed.  :(

 James


 Look at the bottom of the camera, you'll see a compartment for a samll
 battery. You'll need one for the meter.
 I don't usually use the meter on board, but use my handheld.


 Dave

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
While the same as your back to back caps, I have a different intent  
in mind. I won't store lenses back to back on a siamesed cap ... that  
makes the total package too long for my bag/slot design and means  
hunting for the right lens as part of a lens pair, can mean even more  
bits to juggle. I tried it with my Leica gear some years ago but  
didn't like it very much.

The purpose for the back to back rear caps is to enable changing the  
lens more quickly and reducing the amount of bits juggling you have  
to do in the operation of pull out a lens - pull the rear cap - put  
a cap on the lens you just took off the camera. With back to back  
rear caps, you twist a lens onto the one you just pulled from the  
bag, then hold the cap and twist the other right off, barely moving  
your hands. The lens that goes in the bag has a cap on the rear in  
the end, with a siamesed rear cap opening unused.

Because I will not depend on the caps to stick together with the  
weight of two lenses bearing on the cement joint, almost any cement  
will do (epoxy, rubber cement, cyanoacrilate ...). Their join could  
always be reinforced with a glued in reinforcing ring too.

Godfrey

On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 I've done that for years, and it works great.  I can carry two  
 lenses in
 the space for one.  Some different techniques and epoxies have been  
 tried,
 and although none of the caps have separated, the later attempts  
 both look
 nicer and might even be a little stronger.  If you'd like some tips or
 ideas, just let me know.  My first attempt was sent to Bob Walkden  
 several
 years ago, and AFAIK, he's still using the back-to-back caps I made  
 for his
 Leica glass.

 Another thing I'm going to do is buy six rear caps and glue them
 together into pair. That will make it easier when doing a quick
 change to transfer the cap from one lens to the next ... just connect
 the lens you just took off to the one you just pulled out, then twist
 the one going to the camera off and drop the other back into the bag.


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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... slip on caps are, for me, almost always slip off caps. I  
always find them dropped off in my bag or lost entirely. I replace  
slip on caps, such as delivered with the FA77 and DA21, with generic  
clip on plastic caps that I buy for $6 each at the local camera shop.  
Much more secure.  ;-)

For the DA14, I wanted a stretch sock that fits over the very wide  
lens hood so I could keep the hood on the lens when I stuffed it back  
into the bag without risking that huge front element. OpTech produces  
the 'hood hats' in several sizes, this is a representative one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? 
O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=221936is=REGaddedTroughType=search
or
   http://tinyurl.com/ydbcyq

I can't remember the diameter that I bought offhand but it works  
perfectly: stretches over the lens hood and stays securely in place.  
I used to use a smaller one with the FA28-105 lens and its tulip hood  
as well since the hood was again pretty shallow.

Godfrey

On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 True ... and I've used a few when need be.  But they can be spendy and
 sometimes hard to come by.  The supermarket approach is a lot less
 expensive.  However, the bottom line is that there are numerous
 alternatives to the more typically used lens cap.  BTW, even Pentax  
 made
 some slip on caps a while back, although I've only seen them for  
 lenses
 that took 49-mm and 52-mm lenses.

 Schneider makes slip-on lens caps in a lot of sizes.
 You can order them  off their website. Also a google
 search for slip-on and push-on lens caps will find
 some others. I have seen Tupperware lids used.



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Re: PESO - Blast From the Past

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The closest lens to provide an equivalent field of view on the DSLR  
format is the FA77, if that's what you're after. It does pretty well...

120mm is pretty close to the longest focal length I use with any  
frequency, for which the FA135/2.8 IF suffices nicely.

Godfrey

On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:26 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 It is simpler if you're buying new lenses, and at some point I'll  
 get new
 glass, but I've no plans to discard at least some of the mount  
 glass I own.
 Thing is, there's no fixed focal length 120mm lens available from  
 Pentax
 other than in K-mount.


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Re: Somebody talk me out of it

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Oct 23, 2006, at 9:35 AM, John Francis wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 09:33:50AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote:
 Yes, well raod racing is probably predictable enough for manual  
 focusing.
 Other things may not be. But then again - Pentax AF often isn't  
 fast enough
 for moving subjects.

 It's odd how people keep repeating this, and yet there are
 several of us on this list who find the AF quite fast enough
 to shoot race cars travelling at anything up to 200MPH.

 That doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement; I'm
 really looking forward to the K10D with DA* SDM lenses.
 But I miss a whole heck of a lot more shots by tripping
 the shutter at the wrong time, or not quite getting all
 the car in the frame, than I do to auto-focus failures.

I agree. Both of these were made using AF, and I think the DS did a  
pretty good job of it in both cases.

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/27p.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/39p.htm

BTW, the rendering on the second was deliberate... ;-)

Much of road racing is fairly predictable with regard to focus  
points, but I find manual focusing to be just as effective even when  
it is not. It takes some skill and practice, and as John says, timing  
is all important.

If you haven't done much of this kind of work, Jens, you probably  
can't really speak from experience. I've been photographing road  
racing events since about 1972, before there were any autofocus SLRs.  
AF provides a new tool for the work and has engendered a new style of  
photographs from what it can do, but does not obsolete older techniques.

Godfrey




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Re: Pentax sighting today

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey, it's not nice to call Mark an oldie...

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Cool. It's interesting how often the oldies show up. How many times a  
week do you run?
I did my normal 4K morning run. No Pentax cameras on my route unless  
I bring one:-). And you're a spring chicken compared to me. I started  
running when I was 43. I'm now 58. I've been running at least 12  
miles a week for the last 15 years. Helps counter my whiskey habit :-).
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

  

I ran a 10k race this morning (and I'm getting old and slow) and while
staggering through the finishing chute I noticed one of the race
officials taking some photos... with a Spotmatic F!

I complimented him on his beautiful camera :-)


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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Funny I couldn't find that message even after putting the broken url 
back together.

Mark Roberts wrote:

Jim King wrote:

  

Good news!  Ned Bunnell, Pentax Marketing Director in the US, advises  
that the US release is still scheduled for early November in this DPR  
Pentax forum thread:  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? 
forum=1036message=20561036

His post was in reply to a somewhat intemperate post (actually only  
one of many) by a regular in that forum.  Frankly, I wouldn't have  
been so gentle...



A agree with you here. Ned's a class act. I think it's pretty cool that 
he participates in an online forum like that. He shoots some pretty 
nice stuff himself sometimes.

In the DP review post he references an interesting entry in his blog:
http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2006/10/wired-rates-k100d-best-of-test.html


  



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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Adam Maas
I've never had good luck with the generic caps as they tend to fall off 
too easily, I've pretty much settled on replacing all my lenscaps slowly 
with Tamron caps, which allow easy removal with a bayonet hood mounted 
for all sizes othern than 49mm.

-Adam



Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 LOL ... slip on caps are, for me, almost always slip off caps. I  
 always find them dropped off in my bag or lost entirely. I replace  
 slip on caps, such as delivered with the FA77 and DA21, with generic  
 clip on plastic caps that I buy for $6 each at the local camera shop.  
 Much more secure.  ;-)
 
 For the DA14, I wanted a stretch sock that fits over the very wide  
 lens hood so I could keep the hood on the lens when I stuffed it back  
 into the bag without risking that huge front element. OpTech produces  
 the 'hood hats' in several sizes, this is a representative one:
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? 
 O=productlistA=detailsQ=sku=221936is=REGaddedTroughType=search
 or
http://tinyurl.com/ydbcyq
 
 I can't remember the diameter that I bought offhand but it works  
 perfectly: stretches over the lens hood and stays securely in place.  
 I used to use a smaller one with the FA28-105 lens and its tulip hood  
 as well since the hood was again pretty shallow.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 
True ... and I've used a few when need be.  But they can be spendy and
sometimes hard to come by.  The supermarket approach is a lot less
expensive.  However, the bottom line is that there are numerous
alternatives to the more typically used lens cap.  BTW, even Pentax  
made
some slip on caps a while back, although I've only seen them for  
lenses
that took 49-mm and 52-mm lenses.


Schneider makes slip-on lens caps in a lot of sizes.
You can order them  off their website. Also a google
search for slip-on and push-on lens caps will find
some others. I have seen Tupperware lids used.
 
 
 
 



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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Jack Davis
I've done that. Once in Colorado (Maroon Bells) after loading
everything, I backed up and as I stopped to change direction, I heard
a noise over my head. Got out and removed the LX from the roof. It had
rocked on the tripod QR plate just enough to be audible.
Several years ago, I dumped a 270 Remington w/scope off the roof onto
the hood and then the asphalt. Split the forend and scuffed the bolt
handle some.
Another time.oh, never mind.

Jack


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 10/23/2006 7:55:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Ever leave a lens perched on a rock or log and walk off without it?
 That can quickly get you out of the motel and back in the
 field..before
 dark.
 My evening motel relaxing/sipping time will start even sooner in the
 future.
 
 Jack
 
 No. Caps, yes. If I am going to shoot with more than one lens I take
 a camera 
 bag. That's the only way I can carry more than one lens at a time
 anyway. And 
 I check the bag before I move on to another location. As I get older
 I trust 
 my memory less and less. 
 
 Although I have driven off, twice, with a video I meant to return to
 the 
 video store still sitting on top of the car. Once I bounced off
 before I got out 
 of the driveway. Another, I made it about twenty minutes into my
 trip, then 
 suddenly heard a bang, bang. Looked back and a video was in the
 street. Stopped 
 the car at the side of road, ducked through heavy traffic and got it.
 Returned 
 it, it was fine. Simply amazing it stayed on top that long. Both were
 fine, no 
 extra charges either time. Of course, those were videos, not dvds. I
 and they 
 might not fare as well now.
 
 At least neither was a baby. :-)
 
 Marnie aka Doe 
 
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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I might feel betrayed by Pentax if they had changed their mount, but the 
only real improvements, (or changes for that matter, aside from removing 
the aperture simulator, and re-introducing the power contacts),  in the 
K mount with the introduction of DSLRs have been in in the digital 
communications channel.  Nothing that that Pentax has done shows any 
mount RD.  The same jigs that were used on the earliest Kaf mount will 
work with the present mount.  Electronics and software are much less 
expensive to update than electromechanical hardware.  Based on this I do 
not expect any major changes in Pentax's lens mount in the foreseeable 
future.  I do expect that the aperture simulator will disappear from  
645d and thus the use of the aperture ring on that line of cameras.  The 
software for bother 645 and K mount cameras will be identical.

William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: The JCO survey


  

I have K and M lenses I bought brand new.



They've served you well. Consider yourself lucky you didn't buy Canon FD 
lenses as you use them on your DSLR camera.

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Re: GESO -- Kiss My Axe

2006-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/23/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/23/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I took these Saturday at a fall festival in southern PA.  The Penn
  State Woodsmen were there.  They are a woodcutting team from Mont
  Alto, PA.  Not quite what I expected to see, but they event was fun to
  shoot.  There are about 23 photos in the gallery, but I'll be weeding
  most of them out over the next day or two and then spending a bit more
  time adjusting those I keep.  Any and all comments are much
  appreciated.
 
  http://s89612411.onlinehome.us/photo/gallery/Kiss-My-Axe

 Beautiful women with large handtools.

 Yeah, baby!!

 I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay, I work all night and I sleep all day...

 ;-)

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavat'ry
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea


 Actually, those are very nice pix.
Thanks, Frank!

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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

Funny I couldn't find that message even after putting the broken url 
back together.

Just came up fine for me:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20561036


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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Funny, I could just by taking out the space and carriage return.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20561036
or
   http://tinyurl.com/y53wh6

and
   http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/
gets you right to the blog spot mentioned easily too.

Godfrey

On Oct 23, 2006, at 10:35 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Funny I couldn't find that message even after putting the broken url
 back together.

 A agree with you here. Ned's a class act. I think it's pretty cool  
 that
 he participates in an online forum like that. He shoots some pretty
 nice stuff himself sometimes.

 In the DP review post he references an interesting entry in his blog:
 http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2006/10/wired-rates-k100d-best-of- 
 test.html

 Good news!  Ned Bunnell, Pentax Marketing Director in the US,  
 advises
 that the US release is still scheduled for early November in this  
 DPR
 Pentax forum thread:  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
 forum=1036message=20561036

 His post was in reply to a somewhat intemperate post (actually only
 one of many) by a regular in that forum.  Frankly, I wouldn't have
 been so gentle...


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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/23/2006 10:30:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another time.oh, never mind.

Jack
===
Hehehehe. One can carry the absent minded professor approach to life a little 
too far sometimes.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)   Although, sometimes, it has its advantages.

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Re: PESO - Blast From the Past

2006-10-23 Thread John Francis


 Thanks, I've decided to stick with A series and up for the K10D. Uh, not 
 trying to start another you know what discussion here, but it just seems 
 simpler.
 
 Marnie aka Doe 

At this point I'd strongly recommend going for F or later lenses,
unless you think the K10D will be the last body you'll ever buy; 
I don't think it will be too long before we see cameras that will
depend on the presence of that digital signal communication path
for full operation.  When that happens it's quite possible that
an A lens will be treated no differently from any earlier K-mount.


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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've built a simple habit into my handling of cameras and gear around  
automobiles and motorcycles:

   When loading and unloading, if they're not going into the interior  
(or an attached bag with
   respect to the motorcycles) they always go onto the ground, not  
the roof or seat.

I'm much more likely to notice a bag or camera that I've momentarily  
forgotten on the ground than on the roof or seat, and much less  
likely to subject it to a fall.

Godfrey


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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Dave Kennedy
Great thread. Lots of useful ideas here.  Thanks. dk

On 10/23/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While the same as your back to back caps, I have a different intent
 in mind. I won't store lenses back to back on a siamesed cap ... that
 makes the total package too long for my bag/slot design and means
 hunting for the right lens as part of a lens pair, can mean even more
 bits to juggle. I tried it with my Leica gear some years ago but
 didn't like it very much.

 The purpose for the back to back rear caps is to enable changing the
 lens more quickly and reducing the amount of bits juggling you have
 to do in the operation of pull out a lens - pull the rear cap - put
 a cap on the lens you just took off the camera. With back to back
 rear caps, you twist a lens onto the one you just pulled from the
 bag, then hold the cap and twist the other right off, barely moving
 your hands. The lens that goes in the bag has a cap on the rear in
 the end, with a siamesed rear cap opening unused.

 Because I will not depend on the caps to stick together with the
 weight of two lenses bearing on the cement joint, almost any cement
 will do (epoxy, rubber cement, cyanoacrilate ...). Their join could
 always be reinforced with a glued in reinforcing ring too.

 Godfrey

 On Oct 23, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  I've done that for years, and it works great.  I can carry two
  lenses in
  the space for one.  Some different techniques and epoxies have been
  tried,
  and although none of the caps have separated, the later attempts
  both look
  nicer and might even be a little stronger.  If you'd like some tips or
  ideas, just let me know.  My first attempt was sent to Bob Walkden
  several
  years ago, and AFAIK, he's still using the back-to-back caps I made
  for his
  Leica glass.
 
  Another thing I'm going to do is buy six rear caps and glue them
  together into pair. That will make it easier when doing a quick
  change to transfer the cap from one lens to the next ... just connect
  the lens you just took off to the one you just pulled out, then twist
  the one going to the camera off and drop the other back into the bag.


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Re: For those who worry about K10D release...

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax hasn't had a runaway success since the late 1970's early 1980's. 
I doubt the staff even remembered what it was like.

J and K Messervy wrote:

They should have anticipated the demand. Anyone could see a body with those 
specs for that price would be in high demand.

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: For those who worry about K10D release...


  

I've pre-ordered in a couple of places. No one has asked for money
down. They will charge the card when the camera ships. Not a problem.
I think Pentax is being very up front about this. I applaud thier
handling of this release. Obviously, the camera is going to be in
great demand. They may not have anticipated that, but they're
handling it well. Kudos to them. Good news for us.
Paul
On Oct 22, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:



On 23/10/06, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Good news!  Ned Bunnell, Pentax Marketing Director in the US, advises
that the US release is still scheduled for early November in this DPR
Pentax forum thread:  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?
forum=1036message=20561036

His post was in reply to a somewhat intemperate post (actually only
one of many) by a regular in that forum.  Frankly, I wouldn't have
been so gentle...


If Pentax weren't so ambiguous in their limited press-releases these
lines of questions wouldn't be so prevalent but they don't. There
appear to be a lot of people who have put money down on a new K10D, if
I were one of them I too would be keen for confirmation of the actual
delivery dates. Potential buyers will always ask questions so it's
inappropriate to place the blame other than with Pentax.

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Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread Tom C
This is the first time I have put anybody in a kill file.  It's more than I 
can stand or have time for (just deleting the unread posts is a pain in the 
neck).

Tom C.



Original Message Follows
From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: The JCO survey
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:37:23 -0400

I have left this list on three separate occasions in the recent past
because I found the attitude of, and the comments by, J. C. O'Connell
so disturbing.  I was afraid that if I continued to read such
material, I would disgrace myself by descending to the same level.

Can we end this thread and move on?  Please?

Dan M

On 10/21/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At least I don't contradict myself, that's the worst
  Possible thing to do in a so called discussion
  Or debate.
  jco
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Paul Stenquist
  Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:47 PM
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
  Subject: Re: The JCO survey
 
  You responses are so demeaning and insipid that they brand you as a
  complete asshole for however long you remain a member of this list.
  JCO, your are dead meat as far as most of us are concerned.
  Paul
  On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:16 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
   Not so quick you big dummy. He, by his own admission
   Said he really liked the automation his newer lenses
   Provide. Well, well, well, if he likes automation, its
   Pretty stupid to say its of no consequence or important
   To have the K/M automation features removed. If he
   Doesn't care about the very things he says he likes alot, that
   Makes him QUITE illogical by any standards.
   jco
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of
   Keith McGuinness
   Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:26 PM
   To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
   Subject: Re: The JCO survey
  
   Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   It's not an either/or proposition.  I can shoot any way I please, and
   get
   pleasure of varying degrees from whatever my choice is.  Of course,
   you're
   so blinded by what you perceive as being the one and only way of
   doing
   things, you can't understand that.
  
   Of course!
  
   And I agreed with Shel's original post on how he shoots with the
   various lenses.
  
   His point was, simply, that because of the way he shoots, the
   loss of the aperture thingy is of little consequence.
  
   THAT argument is simple and perfectly logical.
  
   Suggesting that the way the he shoots is illogical is beside the
   point. He can use his camera and lenses any way he likes to get
   the pictures he wants. If it works for him, then that's the end
   of that argument.
  
   Keith McG
  
  
  
  
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Re: Pentax sighting today

2006-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On 10/23/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, it's not nice to call Mark an oldie...

Sometimes the truth isn't nice.

g,dr

-frank, currently looking for a new ride down to GFM next year.  Dave,
we can make it without a stop in Pittsburg, right?  g

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Sometimes, I then replace the caps when I have a chance.

cbwaters wrote:

I figure the answers to this will be all over the map but here goes:

When your out shooting and changing lenses fairly frequently, Do you replace 
the caps all the time?

I was walking in the city with my daughter this weekend.  We were taking 
photos for a school project on urban areas.  She's 8 so she's in a hurry to 
get moving all the time.  At least until we'd been walking a couple hours 
and were many blocks from the car, then she wanted to sit on every bench, 
stoop, open patch of sidewalk, etc
Anyhoo, I was switching between a couple lenses.  I like to keep the caps on 
when not in use but I found that I would just leave the hoods on and dump 
the lens into the bag I was carrying to save time.

So, what do you do?

Cory
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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Jack Davis
Or you'll be reminded as the tire backs over it. grin

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've built a simple habit into my handling of cameras and gear around
  
 automobiles and motorcycles:
 
When loading and unloading, if they're not going into the interior
  
 (or an attached bag with
respect to the motorcycles) they always go onto the ground, not  
 the roof or seat.
 
 I'm much more likely to notice a bag or camera that I've momentarily 
 
 forgotten on the ground than on the roof or seat, and much less  
 likely to subject it to a fall.
 
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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/23/2006 11:00:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm much more likely to notice a bag or camera that I've momentarily  
forgotten on the ground than on the roof or seat, and much less  
likely to subject it to a fall.

Godfrey
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Good idea. Noted.

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL  It sure is more valuable and useful than that JCO business.  

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Dave Kennedy 


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GESO -- Kiss My Axe

2006-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
I took these Saturday at a fall festival in southern PA.  The Penn
State Woodsmen were there.  They are a woodcutting team from Mont
Alto, PA.  Not quite what I expected to see, but they event was fun to
shoot.  There are about 23 photos in the gallery, but I'll be weeding
most of them out over the next day or two and then spending a bit more
time adjusting those I keep.  Any and all comments are much
appreciated.

http://s89612411.onlinehome.us/photo/gallery/Kiss-My-Axe

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PESO: Leccinum Aurantiacum (mushrooms :-)

2006-10-23 Thread Jan van Wijk
From a strawl through the woods yesterday ...

On a walk in the woods in our Polder in Flevoland,
we found a whole bunch of this species ...

For such a young forest (the polder is less than 40 years old :-)
the diversity in mushrooms is amazing.

The three new ones in the gallerie are an edible species,
very popular in Germany (Rotkappe).

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?list=8

I like the bright pure orange, hard to catch in the photographs.

Comments, as always, very welcome!

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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
When I took a professional typing course they
Taught use to use the right pinky for the  ' .
(apostrophe) I simply hate that one and always
seem to miss it if I don't slow down and look. jco
jco

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Bob Shell
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:54 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The JCO survey


On Oct 23, 2006, at 6:23 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Why that link? I know the apostrophe is
 Supposed to be there but I told you I omit it on purpose
 On this list and others. This isnt a job resume.
 Its dirt cheap disposable internet quick typed chat.
 The apostrophe is a hard key to hit for me when
 Touch typing fast( it uses the right pinky in a weird
 Lateral move from base semicolon.)

What kind of keyboard do you have?  On mine the apostrophe is just to  
the left of the return key.  When I want to type joe's an idiot I  
use my ring finger to hit the apostrophe and don't even notice.  I  
learned touch typing in the 60s and seem to recall that the  
apostrophe is somewhere else on a typewriter keyboard, but no longer  
have one of those beasts.  Personally, I think proper punctuation is  
essential to accurate communication.

Bob

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What bag are you using?  With the Domke 803 I only run into height problems
when using longer lenses, especially with hoods on them..  But, if as you
say, the 77mm is the longest you use, with a bag such as the Domke I can't
think of any combination that would be too long.  Your point about
juggling has, for me at least, not been an issue, but I can see how under
certain circumstance, it might be.

When experimenting with glues and designs, I found that sanding the ends of
the caps helped produce a stronger join.  I use one of those glues that
come in two attached tubes that get mixed just before application.  I also
use a Handi-Clamp to solidly hold the two caps together while the glue is
drying.  I got my clamp at a local Ace Hardware store, but an almost
identical one (save for color, it seems) can be had through Amazon.

http://tinyurl.com/yn6htk
http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-59200CD-Quick-Grip-2-Handi-Clamp/dp/B51WSG

I mention all this, not just for you, but for others reading the thread who
may find the information useful.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 While the same as your back to back caps, I have a different intent  
 in mind. I won't store lenses back to back on a siamesed cap ... that  
 makes the total package too long for my bag/slot design and means  
 hunting for the right lens as part of a lens pair, can mean even more  
 bits to juggle. I tried it with my Leica gear some years ago but  
 didn't like it very much.

 The purpose for the back to back rear caps is to enable changing the  
 lens more quickly and reducing the amount of bits juggling you have  
 to do in the operation of pull out a lens - pull the rear cap - put  
 a cap on the lens you just took off the camera. With back to back  
 rear caps, you twist a lens onto the one you just pulled from the  
 bag, then hold the cap and twist the other right off, barely moving  
 your hands. The lens that goes in the bag has a cap on the rear in  
 the end, with a siamesed rear cap opening unused.

 Because I will not depend on the caps to stick together with the  
 weight of two lenses bearing on the cement joint, almost any cement  
 will do (epoxy, rubber cement, cyanoacrilate ...). Their join could  
 always be reinforced with a glued in reinforcing ring too.



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RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
My relpies are of the same tone as the posts
Directed at me. I never start with the name
Calling but I will certainly volley.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:45 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: RE: The JCO survey

How about because of your vile, disgusting language and rude behavior. 
It's one thing to argue incessantly over the same point, but your
style
isn't fit for continuous human consumption.  

Shel



 [Original Message]
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 Screw You, dude. I don't see any reason why anyone
 Would need/want to leave the list because of my posts.



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Re: Somebody talk me out of it

2006-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/19/06, Pancho Hasselbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Scott Loveless schrieb:
  On 10/18/06, Pancho Hasselbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Scott,
 
  this is the wrong place for being talked out of buying lenses. You never
  can have enough, so I suggest to go for both of them.
 
  Agreed.  This should be the PEML.
 
  BTW, my wife says I'm not allowed to talk to you anymore.  g

 What a pity, but wait a minute, I'll try Power Of Thought: Buy...
 both.. of... them...

 Received it?

Amazing!  The power of subliminal messages is simply amazing!  g

As much as I'd like to buy both, I don't much care for sleeping on the
couch.  Thanks for talking me out of it, though.  :)

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Re: lens quick change Q?

2006-10-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I've never seen a Pentax slip on cap for 52mm, there are a number of k 
lenses that take caps for 58mm.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

True ... and I've used a few when need be.  But they can be spendy and
sometimes hard to come by.  The supermarket approach is a lot less
expensive.  However, the bottom line is that there are numerous
alternatives to the more typically used lens cap.  BTW, even Pentax made
some slip on caps a while back, although I've only seen them for lenses
that took 49-mm and 52-mm lenses.

Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: graywolf 



  

Schneider makes slip-on lens caps in a lot of sizes. 
You can order them  off their website. Also a google 
search for slip-on and push-on lens caps will find 
some others. I have seen Tupperware lids used.





  



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