Katarina Käik
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061225151807 ^^^ Katarina Passage, Tallinn old town. Interesting place... -- new photos ever so often... http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
On 25/12/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: I like the expression of the woman of the second, the timing was nicely caught. Nice for ISO1600 too. Thanks Gonz, that's no woman ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
On 25/12/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: You love that shallow DOF eh? It definitely guides your eye -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
the 12th century church in the village we used to love in. On 26/12/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: Probably too much info ! D'oh! LOL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
On 25/12/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Nice. I'm afraid to take a camera to church. The pastor is annoyed when people come late or leave early. He might kick my ass if I take photos:-) I'm very careful. Only a couple of snaps during a carol part-way, and then a half dozen during the last, never during prayer or readings. I wouldn't like to distract from others' enjoyment/participation of the service. If I was going to do it properly I would, of course, obtain permission before hand,and position discreetly and appropriately, but for a few snaps I'll take my chances. The church is usually next to empty most of the year. The candle-lit carol service is a well-known event and over-subscribed. Had to be there 30 minutes early and there was only a dozen seats left, fortunately upstairs at the back, front row. My son wanted to go, and it's nice to see folks who used to be neighbours a year ago. Thanks. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Katarina Käik
On 26/12/06, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061225151807 ^^^ Katarina Passage, Tallinn old town. Interesting place... I thought that was going to be a bit a porn. Yeah interesting shot, but don't you think it could do with a bit less of the nuclear winter? Passages have some dark corners in them, this is like night vision gone mad. If it were me, I'd be exposing more for the highlights. Then again, I like lots of shadow in such a scene. HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas enablement?
The ebay santa gave me a 90-180 zoom for my 67ii. Mrs Santa gave me some warm clothes for standing still while it chugs away on f45. Now all I need is a custom built concrete block for my tripod and an overdraft for a selection of 95mm filters Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax glass
Word of warning, don't buy SDHC cards at 2mb's per second they are a tenth of the speed of current fast SD cards. The expensive ones are 6mb's per second so less than a third of the speeds currently available. I have attempted some children's soccer games with the DS and a fast card. Regrettably the limiting factor is the powers of anticipation of the photographer. Thank goodness I'm not using a film camera to learn on. Peter On 12/26/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I'm anxious to hear how the K10 works for you in action shoots. So far, I find it works quite well on continuous autofocus. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs with the DA* lenses. Paul Considering how well my *ist D has done at the track with FA* lenses, I expect very good things from the K10D with the FA* lenses, and maybe better with the DA* lenses when they arrive (and I can afford to get them). -- Thanks DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Hoya - Pentax Merger - Sad News
Mark wrote: The K10D may just be the swan-song of Pentax management - one last flash before they are gone. Then I better get one while they're still available :-) That will keep me going (with my current excellent glass collection) for another 3-4 years. No seriously: Why would teh joined forces with HOYA mean stopping the camera production? Hoya is - like Pentax - an important player in the glass business. Joining management forces just means strengthining their role in the market place - as glass manufactureres and imaging developeres. I also guess that the camera industry has a role promoting all other glass products (like endoscopes and other medical equipment, spectacles, car-windows, CD/DVD readers etc.). I also believe the camera section might be profitable - or at least profitable enough to develop further. This is why (from the Hoya webside): Read this http://www.hoya.co.jp/data/current/newsobj-368-pdf.pdf Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RE: Christmas morning
Bill Owens wrote: Several years ago, Mr. Hugh Morton, owner of GFM gave me a large, signed print of one of his photos. My Christmas present this year was having it framed and hung I got Hugh Morton's second book (the one that was published posthumously) of photography for Christmas! I had him sign his first book at GFM in 2005. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas enablement?
William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts Stan Halpin wrote: One DA 21/3.2 AL Limited. The system works! Send a notice to Santa (who lives in the basement at BH), he emails the appropriate person, the transaction is transacted, the lens is shipped, and Stan is happily playing with a new toy. Great minds think alike, Stan. I sent a similar message to the same Santa a few days ago. My 21 Limited will be arriving in another couple of days :) It is a lens yu won't regret buying. So far, I am really happy with mine, which I find amusing, as it is an angle of view I don't like much. The angle of view is one of my favorites. That's why I finally broke down and bought it (I've never bought a prime slower than f/2.8 except for my 15mm). I often used a 28mm as a walkaround standard lens on my MX. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RE: Christmas morning
The one I have framed is on page 74 of the second book. I also have a signed copy of his first book. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 8:10 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: RE: Christmas morning Bill Owens wrote: Several years ago, Mr. Hugh Morton, owner of GFM gave me a large, signed print of one of his photos. My Christmas present this year was having it framed and hung I got Hugh Morton's second book (the one that was published posthumously) of photography for Christmas! I had him sign his first book at GFM in 2005. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax glass
Beleive me when I tell you AF of the K10D is WAY faster than AF from ist-D even with current cheap lens as a DA 18-55 ! 2006/12/25, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 25, 2006, at 9:40 AM, John Sessoms wrote: The one thing I've found my Pentax doesn't work well for is sports action. The continuous auto-focus mode just doesn't work fast enough to keep up with baseball, football (American style) or football (what the rest of the world knows as football the US calls soccer), and the buffer isn't large enough or fast enough for motor drive type shots. I'm considering a Nikon D2H 80-200 f/2.8 Are you referring to the K10D or some earlier Pentax DSLR? The K10D AF system seems a significant improvement in speed over the DS, without sacrificing accuracy, in my use so far. I hardly ever use follow-focus or AF-C modes, though, so I am not sure about how it does in that respect. Godfrey I currently have the *ist-D and a PZ-1P. Neither has proved really satisfactory for sports photography in continuous auto-focus, although the PZ-1P holds a slight edge. The optics are sharp enough when used in a pre-focused mode, such as focusing on home plate waiting for some action to occur there, but are not quick enough in continuous mode to follow a base runner if he tries to steal second. The PZ-1P will burn through some film in continuous mode; you can put the hammer down and rip through an entire 36 exposure roll in one burst if you want to, but the *ist-D doesn't have a large enough buffer for good continuous action shooting. I understand the K10D is supposed to have a larger buffer, and to auto-focus faster with the hypersonic motor in some lenses, but as yet I don't think they yet offer anything like the 80-200 f/2.8 with a hypersonic motor to take advantage of the K10D's capabilities. OTOH, it's pretty much moot at this point because I don't have enough saved to buy either the Pentax or the Nikon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
It was not at the time of writing. Welcome to the debate. :-) Jostein On 12/25/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jostein Øksne wrote: After re-reading all of this thread, something strikes me. All the USA citizens that have spoken up downplays human impact. All the non-USA people do not. Go figure. :-) Jostein I'm not an American. And I'm pretty sure Shel is. Your categorization is incorrect. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax glass
Might be a bit before i can try it. No outdoor shows for a while. I;ll need to find some horses running around outside in a paddock or a kids out door hockey game, if it ever stops raining here. Sig. Another crappy winter for BW film. I ususually use AF-S for my action work, using the shutter button in a machingun sort of way. I find its easier to get the shot.Sometimes AF-C with dressage works well though. However i am interested on how this K10 will work out. It may make a really good camera to have on site with a good prime for grabing those presentation shots. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm anxious to hear how the K10 works for you in action shoots. So far, I find it works quite well on continuous autofocus. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs with the DA* lenses. Paul On Dec 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Quoting John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humm I use Nikons for my paying work and have good nikonglass aswell. (D1, D1H,D1H,D200, 70-200 F2.8VR etc) However, just because Pentax does not have a five pound body does not mean it cannot be used as a pro camera. I often use my Pentax cameras when i don't want to be noticed, like in street work. I have two systems, and they have different uses. No need to dump one AFAIC. Good luck in your choice. Dave The one thing I've found my Pentax doesn't work well for is sports action. The continuous auto-focus mode just doesn't work fast enough to keep up with baseball, football (American style) or football (what the rest of the world knows as football the US calls soccer), and the buffer isn't large enough or fast enough for motor drive type shots. I'm considering a Nikon D2H 80-200 f/2.8 Yes, i find the same thing, although i have use dthe istD for my equestrian events in a pintch and get good results. I prefer my D1 or D1H. Be carefull with the D2H. Mine and a few others i know, suffered a lot of melt down problems with the D2H. AE board quits, shutter replacements and metering adjustments. With mine, all this and more, in less than 9000 shutters. Possibly some of the problems we're worked out in the D2Hs.??? I rarley use my D2H anymore, its become so unreliable. My two D's produce much nicer and sharper photos. Also, get the 70-200 VR if possible. Its a fantastic zoom, but a bit heavy. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
Cotty wrote: the 12th century church in the village we used to love in. On 26/12/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: Probably too much info ! D'oh! LOL although doubtless accurate ann p.s. re pix 2 (that was no woman that was my wife ?) ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas enablement?
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Christmas enablement? The angle of view is one of my favorites. That's why I finally broke down and bought it (I've never bought a prime slower than f/2.8 except for my 15mm). I often used a 28mm as a walkaround standard lens on my MX. I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a lens in the 28-35mm range on 35mm, or my 75mm on the 6x7. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park
Hey, Godders thanks muchly! -- I had slapped on an orange filter when I headed out as I couldnt find the polarizer or my lens cap (whadda shock, eh?) but also wondered if I shot monochrome would conversion to BW be better I liked it better orange - I happened to be passing the park on the way to rescue someone from computer hell of a kind I do know how to fix ... so it was pretty much f8 and be there - so I was lucky. I almost missed this post of yours :) Glad I saw it. I've missed a few of your traveling across country things I think -- do you have them gathered some where in a GESO ? I've been pretty occupied with Xmas eve and day stuff - just hopped on here quickly before facing last nights dishes Best, ann Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 20, 2006, at 7:52 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5358414 Super! This is a wonderful photograph: Intensely, darkly mysterious and yet full of light and power. I missed it until just now and I'm glad I didn't miss it completely. Wonderful work. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
I didn't get in on the list discussion but I'm USA and very much in the Gore camp of concerns, J ann Jostein Øksne wrote: It was not at the time of writing. Welcome to the debate. :-) Jostein On 12/25/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jostein Øksne wrote: After re-reading all of this thread, something strikes me. All the USA citizens that have spoken up downplays human impact. All the non-USA people do not. Go figure. :-) Jostein I'm not an American. And I'm pretty sure Shel is. Your categorization is incorrect. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Malcolm Smith wrote: [...] What we all need to do is agree there is a problem and how best to resolve it for everyone; although I suspect the 'facts' issued by governments helps to distract the various populations and allow themselves and big business largely get on with doing what it has always done, with mere lip service to the big issue. The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and 2. continuing the economic growth in the first world countries An economic model to accomodate both does not exist. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
I've stayed out of this because I believe that most people contributing to this thread are just blabbering their opinions, of which I have mine as well. However, please allow me to point out that around the mid-1800's the earth was coming out of what has been called the Little Ice Age, so naturally it would have shown a warming trend in 1880 (and yes, I am fully aware of the differences of opinion wrt the dates of the LIA). However, that does not reduce or eliminate man's inmfluience on global warming based on the use of fossil fuels and sparked by the industrial revolution. My personal opinion on all this shall remain mine, and I probaly will not contribute any more to this thread. Shel [Original Message] From: Jostein Øksne We know from eg. glaciology in all mountaineous regions from the tropics to the arctics that it has been getting warmer since around 1880. That's climate change. Denying that this happens is really head in sand, and has nothing to do with either politics or mass media. The info is there and easily accessible via eg. google. Then based on the info comes the discussion of whether this is caused by humans or is part of a scheme greater than we can handle anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Without knowing what American politicians have said it's hard to know if I'm duplicating anyone's statements, but I thik it's very unlikely that I'll be echoeing any one of them. Politicians always have an agenda that primarily focus on re-election, so their time perspective is a little short for this kind of discussion. To use their contribution to the argument as an excuse for not seeking facts seems like a rather lame excuse to me. Bring in media as well, if you like. In these matters I find that journalistic oversimplification is the main problem with bringing the scientific results to the larger public. What I would like to add, however, is that we're actually discussing two quite different things at the same time. One is climate change. The other is human influence on climate change. We know from eg. glaciology in all mountaineous regions from the tropics to the arctics that it has been getting warmer since around 1880. That's climate change. Denying that this happens is really head in sand, and has nothing to do with either politics or mass media. The info is there and easily accessible via eg. google. Then based on the info comes the discussion of whether this is caused by humans or is part of a scheme greater than we can handle anyway. I didn't say it was USA vs. rest of the world, btw. I just looked at the posts in the archive at one particular point in time, and saw a very consistent pattern. Since then, other people have chimed in and thankfully blurred it. :-) Finally, as I have said in an earlier post, it is the *rate* of change that give reason to worry. Let's say for example that the ocan rise 10m in the next 100 years. Even a century is a short time if you have to move a billion people. See eg. here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060517175614.htm Jostein On 12/25/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jostein, Nothing new here, but like Bill and Paul said: I find that politics enter into the argument so powerfully on both sides, that it becomes difficult to determine what is fact and what is not. I doubt we know the facts today, just theories. But we have two powerful, self serving groups raising an alarm - the media and the politicians. Do you have anything to add to what they have said, or are you just echoing their statements? Two other thoughts... 1) This is such a comfy problem, kind of like 'save the whales.' We all can take a stand and maybe even do our little part to save energy and reduce carbon dioxide emission's and not really get our hands dirty. It's all an abstract problem, not like homeless people nearby or other needy local folks which would bring us face to face with real problems we might be able to impact. 2) I don't think it is the USA vs the rest of the world on this. I think you ignore a very real problem with the rest of the developing world. Europe and the USA enjoy a lifestyle based on high consumption of resources. Places like China aspire to obtain that kind of lifestyle for their citizens. Who among us has the moral authority to tell them NO! Regards, Bob S. On 12/25/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what else is new? :-) Jostein On 12/25/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jostein, Look to the media and politicians in both spheres. They have shaped public opinion. Regards, Bob S. On 12/25/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After re-reading all of this thread, something strikes me. All the USA citizens that have spoken up downplays human impact. All the non-USA people do not. Go figure. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park
On Dec 26, 2006, at 7:40 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: I almost missed this post of yours :) Glad I saw it. I've missed a few of your traveling across country things I think -- do you have them gathered some where in a GESO ? So far I've posted five photos from the road trip to my PAW 2006 gallery: index page: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/ individuals: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/37.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/38.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/39.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/43.htm http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/44.htm I'm hoping to scan some more of the 645 film today. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: LightZone v2.0 experiences?
Thanks Godfrey, I didn't notice the noise on the right-hand edge until now. Not a big issue, though. otherwise it seems we have about the same impression. :-) Cheers, Jostein On 12/25/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 25, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Has anyone used the LightZone raw converter? http://www.lightcrafts.com/products/lightzone/ After a couple of weeks experimenting with *istD and DNG raw files I begin to like this software, but I'd like to hear other people's opinion before committing any money to it. I've gotten some promotional flyers about LightZone several times so your comment piqued my curiosity. First tests this morning seemed very promising. - It's available for Win XP, Win XP64 and Mac OS X. Interesting: they offer it in two packages, one with only the editing tools, the other with a full browser/sorter/etc as well. So you should be able to devise a workflow and integrate it pretty easily with Lightroom, Bridge+Photoshop, iView MediaPro, et al. It supports Pentax *ist D, DS, DL, and K100D PEF format RAW files. It also supports DNG format files ... I tested with K10D RAW/DNGs and the same run through DNG Converter v3.6 into standard and linear forms. All worked opened and adjusted identically. On the K10D files, there is a small region of noise at the rightmost edge of the frame (in all of them) that is not present with *ist DS files, either PEF or DNG Converted. Easy to crop out. - The user interface is very different from all the other RAW converters. After being a little disoriented by it, it fell into place quickly and I see the logic behind it. Very slick and simple. They make good use of a notion of layering different kinds of adjustments in a sequence. And selections! at the RAW processing level! This is very nice. - The filter types are simple, clear and functional. - Lightzone will output either a file with just the filter descriptions in it or will render to a TIFF or JPEG output file for further editing. I was able to make a very nice rendering of a couple of difficult exposures within just ten minutes from installing it for the first time. That's darn good, for me especially as my patience with poorly designed software is easily taxed. Worth taking a look. It's not cheap but it's not super expensive either. It might prove to be worth it even if for just the editor version, without the browser. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Well, The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and 2. continuing the economic growth in the first world countries An economic model to accomodate both does not exist. Logically you're quite right, Jostein. But we deal with politics here, right? Politics has different logics than plain common sense. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
On 12/26/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Christmas enablement? The angle of view is one of my favorites. That's why I finally broke down and bought it (I've never bought a prime slower than f/2.8 except for my 15mm). I often used a 28mm as a walkaround standard lens on my MX. I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a lens in the 28-35mm range on 35mm, or my 75mm on the 6x7. I used my 28/3.5 almost exclusively for about a year. But I got better. It's almost never mounted anymore. In the rare case that I feel like I need something wider than a 50 I use a 35. Over the last year or so I've noticed that when using a 28-80 or 28-90 zoom, after zooming, focusing, metering, etc., the lens almost always ends up set very close to 50mm. During the recent DCPDML excursion I made a conscious effort to not use the 50. It felt awkward and unnatural. I did mount the 50/1.7 at sunset. My current enablement musings have me considering a faster 50, a 43 LTD, or even dumping a significant amount of my Pentax hardware and buying a Leica with one of those nifty collapsible lenses. What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Hello. I should say that it is starting to look like one of the more interesting off topic discussions on the list as of recently. My reply is between your lines, Jostein. Without knowing what American politicians have said it's hard to know if I'm duplicating anyone's statements, but I thik it's very unlikely that I'll be echoeing any one of them. Politicians always have an agenda that primarily focus on re-election, so their time perspective is a little short for this kind of discussion. I think politicians are also after as much money as possible (natural for humans, right?). This has to be taken into account as well anyway, I think. To use their contribution to the argument as an excuse for not seeking facts seems like a rather lame excuse to me. Bring in media as well, if you like. In these matters I find that journalistic oversimplification is the main problem with bringing the scientific results to the larger public. Yes, but without (over)simplifications you cannot reach Boris-the-average and make them roll these gears between the ears. And of course, journalists themselves are not always well versed in the subject they are writing about, thus they have to come up with whatever they think will gain them more rating. I sincerely believe here that in order to get reasonably decent picture of what's going on, one either has to know exactly which journalists to read or one has to look in scientific sources. What I would like to add, however, is that we're actually discussing two quite different things at the same time. One is climate change. The other is human influence on climate change. Both are fascinating, I should say. We know from eg. glaciology in all mountaineous regions from the tropics to the arctics that it has been getting warmer since around 1880. That's climate change. Denying that this happens is really head in sand, and has nothing to do with either politics or mass media. The info is there and easily accessible via eg. google. Yes, but climate change does not necessarily mean steady heating or steady cooling, right? Then based on the info comes the discussion of whether this is caused by humans or is part of a scheme greater than we can handle anyway. Frankly, I think that humans tend to overestimate their influence here. I didn't say it was USA vs. rest of the world, btw. I just looked at the posts in the archive at one particular point in time, and saw a very consistent pattern. Since then, other people have chimed in and thankfully blurred it. :-) Good, I would think it would be very difficult to comprehend such an eventuality. Finally, as I have said in an earlier post, it is the *rate* of change that give reason to worry. Let's say for example that the ocan rise 10m in the next 100 years. Even a century is a short time if you have to move a billion people. See eg. here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060517175614.htm Hmmm, this page you mentioned does not open from my office PC. I'll try at home. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Boris Liberman wrote: An economic model to accomodate both does not exist. Logically you're quite right, Jostein. But we deal with politics here, right? Politics has different logics than plain common sense. So has economic theory, IMVHO. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
I use my FA 35/2 most often. I like the angle of view, and it's fast enough for indoor photography. If I need something a bit longer, I go with the FA 50/1.4. Either is great at a party or event. But I tend to go in cycles. In summer when I'm shooting more outdoors, I use the DA 16-45 and DA 50-200 quite a bit. The K 85/1.8 and DA 12-24 are frequently mounted as well. I rarely stick with one lens for an extended period of time. On Dec 26, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 12/26/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Christmas enablement? The angle of view is one of my favorites. That's why I finally broke down and bought it (I've never bought a prime slower than f/2.8 except for my 15mm). I often used a 28mm as a walkaround standard lens on my MX. I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a lens in the 28-35mm range on 35mm, or my 75mm on the 6x7. I used my 28/3.5 almost exclusively for about a year. But I got better. It's almost never mounted anymore. In the rare case that I feel like I need something wider than a 50 I use a 35. Over the last year or so I've noticed that when using a 28-80 or 28-90 zoom, after zooming, focusing, metering, etc., the lens almost always ends up set very close to 50mm. During the recent DCPDML excursion I made a conscious effort to not use the 50. It felt awkward and unnatural. I did mount the 50/1.7 at sunset. My current enablement musings have me considering a faster 50, a 43 LTD, or even dumping a significant amount of my Pentax hardware and buying a Leica with one of those nifty collapsible lenses. What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:55:14 +0100 Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and jostein, much as i agree with most of your logic, i feel the need to butt in with the fact that 'living standard' does not necessarily equate to 'living happily' and that 'first world' is, in spite of the pompousness of the wording, by no means, an ideal... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Cotty wrote: I'm outta here. Gone fission. HAR! Some confession. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:22, Scott Loveless wrote: Over the last year or so I've noticed that when using a 28-80 or 28-90 zoom, after zooming, focusing, metering, etc., the lens almost always ends up set very close to 50mm. During the recent DCPDML excursion I made a conscious effort to not use the 50. It felt awkward and unnatural. I did mount the 50/1.7 at sunset. My current enablement musings have me considering a faster 50, a 43 LTD, or even dumping a significant amount of my Pentax hardware and buying a Leica with one of those nifty collapsible lenses. What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? I looked back at about a year's worth of images and found that a startling number of my photos of people (at family gatherings and parties) were shot at or very close to 28mm. So I did an experiment on Christmas - put the A28 f/2.8 on the front of the DS and just shot with that all day. Made for a much smaller package than with the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8! I think if I had that 31mm limited it would work for me too... but it probably won't happen in this lifetime! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Slow-Sync Use with K10D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Gonz wrote: I would imagine that since the flash is very fast, probably faster than 1/1 of a sec, that you could wait right up until the second curtain started to close. So if you did this, it would be closer to 1/500th of a sec before the second curtain closes, assuming the first and second take equal time to traverse the frame and the sync time is 1/250th. I suppose you could experiment with the shutter speed, i.e. try 1/125th and 1/250th + second curtain sync to see where the time actually is for the flash. If the system is very very sophisticated and can incorporate the timings for a flash quench dynamically, yes, the flash could fire at as little as the minimum quench time it is capable of. But most second curtain timings are set for about 1/250 second prior to second curtain release because that is the average usual flash illumination time for a studio electronic flash at full output. That would mean that if you did this, then if the flash sync speed was 1/250th, and you set the flash to second curtain sync, and you had your shutter set to 1/250th, then it would not work, because 1/250th before the *second* curtain *release* was when the first curtain started to release, i.e. the sensor was still not exposed. Maybe you meant 1/250th before the second curtain closed, i.e. right when the second curtain was about to be released. This would make sense. In that case, at this speed, its equivalent to a regular first curtain sync flash. Of course, this speculation and trivia is irrelevant to practical use of second curtain sync or the initial question. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 23:59:28 + Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a bit of an 85mm spurt at the moment :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html enjoyed these cotty, especially the second one. two different points from the xmas eve spectrum... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma 24-70 lens compatibility problem?.
Never heard of a problem with that particular lens, but Sigma has been known for incomparability problems in the past. jim wrote: I have above lens 3.5-5.6. No idea how old it is, bought 2nd hand from KEH. Have used it on my MZ7 since I bought it. today, have tried it on a new K100D and camera thought it was a K mount lens despite it being a fully auto lens. Also tried it on 2 MZ60's, same result ie camera won't work with it at all. Remount onto MZ7, no problems. Was there a Compatibility problem with this particular lens? or is lens starting to be on it's way out electrically? James -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Slow-Sync Use with K10D
On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:19 AM, Gonz wrote: That would mean that if you did this, then if the flash sync speed was 1/250th, and you set the flash to second curtain sync, and you had your shutter set to 1/250th, then it would not work, because 1/250th before the *second* curtain *release* was when the first curtain started to release, i.e. the sensor was still not exposed. Maybe you meant 1/250th before the second curtain closed, i.e. right when the second curtain was about to be released. This would make sense. In that case, at this speed, its equivalent to a regular first curtain sync flash. Second curtain sync is irrelevant when you're setting an exposure time shorter than the minimum X-sync speed of the camera. The Pentax DSLRs have a minimum X-sync shutter setting of 1/180 second, which is comfortably longer than 1/250 second. The difference in timing means that the flash exposure will happen only 1/1000 second or so later than it would with first curtain timing at minimum X-sync speed of 1/180 sec. So it's pretty obvious that the special effects of second curtain sync are really for use with longer exposure times. The Sony R1, with a leaf shutter and second curtain sync available at all shutter settings, demonstrates this conclusively: the effect of second curtain sync is best seen in exposures of 1/30 and longer duration. Any shorter exposure than that and the differences are insignificant. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - query for the NYC crowd
The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Mostly Hydroelectric from Quebec, and trash to electricity, with peak capacity additions from natural gas, these days. Used to be mostly Nuke produced locally, but those plants have been mainly shut down. I'm sorry, I refuse to feel in the least guilty. Tim Øsleby wrote: It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. I'll give you one reason to minimise use of hot water. Hot water is made of water and energy. Energy is also global. Your electricity could come from any place from the planet, from coal or from gas, or other sources. And waste from fossil electricity production is probably one of the courses to the global heating. So; less use of electric energy means less waste. Less waste means less global heating. Pretty simple really (assuming your energy is not recyclable and locally produced) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 25. desember 2006 08:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? David Savage wrote: On 12/25/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a place with abundant water. I can use as much as I wish without adversely affecting your life, or anyone else's. Good news .Should I stop taking hot, (or cold), showers in solidarity with you? No, but if you could keep them down to no longer than a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it. Why prey tell should I? It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. On the other hand a really cold winter can cost a great deal of money in fuel to keep a minimal comfortable temperature, (which for me is really quiet chilly apparently, according to my friends). Will you help me pay my heating bills? If you pay my cooling bill. I really didn't think you would. Do what I do, in reverse, turn the thermostat up. Life on this rock has always been uncomfortable, humans have always attempted to change the environment to make life easier for themselves. True. Increasing population levels add an interesting variable. If you don't like it you can try to live on some other rock, good luck. Funny guy. Consume, consume, consume. What could go wrong? Dave Lots can go wrong. However unless you can find a way that I can teleport some of that water to you I see no point in conserving it. Denying myself a luxurious shower can't help your situation in the least, . It's kind of like cleaning your plate because children are starving in (fill in the blank), they'll keep starving and you'll get fat. Save water because people are thirsty in Australia? Sheesh. Build a desalinization plant. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Short K10D report
Now that's very silly... Bob Sullivan wrote: My first case of battery running out occured today as I was fooling/learning about the menu and options. I've shot 485 pictures, a few with onboard flash. I popped in the spare 3rd party battery and just kept going. My pictures continue to be improved by shake reduction. We went to the King Tut exhibition yesterday and I took a snapshot of a friend in the dim museum hallway. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/KingTut/photo#5012541629732857682 F4 and 1/20th of a second worked great, 1/3 second not so good... Regards, Bob S. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Hoya - Pentax Merger - Sad News
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/26 Tue AM 11:26:07 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Hoya - Pentax Merger - Sad News Mark wrote: The K10D may just be the swan-song of Pentax management - one last flash before they are gone. Then I better get one while they're still available :-) That will keep me going (with my current excellent glass collection) for another 3-4 years. No seriously: Why would teh joined forces with HOYA mean stopping the camera production? Hoya is - like Pentax - an important player in the glass business. Joining management forces just means strengthining their role in the market place - as glass manufactureres and imaging developeres. I also guess that the camera industry has a role promoting all other glass products (like endoscopes and other medical equipment, spectacles, car-windows, CD/DVD readers etc.). I also believe the camera section might be profitable - or at least profitable enough to develop further. Not much glass in an endoscope - I hope. I,m sorry, I can't quite make the problem out. Time for some fast glass. Nurse! The 85 1.4, please. And some smelling salts for the patient. This is why (from the Hoya webside): Read this http://www.hoya.co.jp/data/current/newsobj-368-pdf.pdf Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Very little fossil fuel if I can believe the local utility. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? .Should I stop taking hot, (or cold), showers in solidarity with you? No, but if you could keep them down to no longer than a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it. Why prey tell should I? It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. If the global warming pundits are correct, then the fossil fuels used to heat that water are contributing to a global problem (presuming you use fossil fuel rather than atomic power to run your hot water tank), and you may be, in a small way, contributing to heating the ocean. William Robb -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
The biggest contribution to the environment the US and Canada could make would be to shut down the coal-fired power plants. Too many of them are grandfathered from environmental regulations and are extremely dirty. To give my local government credit, they're actually trying to get rid of coal plants (About the only useful thing the Ontario government has done), but Ontario is currently far too reliant on them. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Very little fossil fuel if I can believe the local utility. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? .Should I stop taking hot, (or cold), showers in solidarity with you? No, but if you could keep them down to no longer than a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it. Why prey tell should I? It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. If the global warming pundits are correct, then the fossil fuels used to heat that water are contributing to a global problem (presuming you use fossil fuel rather than atomic power to run your hot water tank), and you may be, in a small way, contributing to heating the ocean. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Couple of shots, not PESO
...the village we used to love in. That's almost too much information... Cotty wrote: Christmas eve we went to a carol service in the 12th century church in the village we used to love in. Lit only by candles, so had the A*85mm wide open on the 1D at 1/60th, ISO 1600. Then a shot from Christmas day, same ISO, same lens. I'm having a bit of an 85mm spurt at the moment :-) http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare4.html Both RAW btw. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
Can't help with the local sightseeing, but keep in mind when making your plans that BH will be closed on Saturday. ;) -P Scott Loveless wrote: Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? I'm using the 50/1.4 in the studio quite a bit. It's a tad short, but good for small groups that require backing off for, the 77 has finally found some use, again in the studio, but also quite a bit in my walkaround kit. I suspect the lens that is going to see the most use for me over the next while is the ridiculous little 40/2.8LTD. It is a gorgeous FL on the digital. I may have to seek out a 43mm now. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
BH will most likely be our first stop on Sunday morning, and then maybe some walk around time until we have to get back on the train. Thanks, Paul. On 12/26/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't help with the local sightseeing, but keep in mind when making your plans that BH will be closed on Saturday. ;) -P Scott Loveless wrote: Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Thanks Subash! I used those terms specifically for their loaded content. :-) And you're absolutely right, of course. Jostein On 12/26/06, SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:55:14 +0100 Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and jostein, much as i agree with most of your logic, i feel the need to butt in with the fact that 'living standard' does not necessarily equate to 'living happily' and that 'first world' is, in spite of the pompousness of the wording, by no means, an ideal... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Epson roll paper source?
Does anyone have a good source for Epson roll papers that are the proper size for a 2200? Also, anyone know the max length one can print on the 2200 without RIP software? Last week I was able to buy (for cheap) most of my old workstation from Reed's as they were closing down. This included my dual-Xeon workstation with two flat-panel monitors and the 2200 I used for producing the store's punch cards and other things. Today I get to clear my workspace at home and see if I can cram all this stuff in there along with the Nikon CoolScan 8000 I got last month. :) Sadly, I couldn't afford the store's Epson Stylus Pro 9600. *sigh* John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? Long time experience with 35mm film cameras whittled my kit down to a 20mm, a 35-40mm, a 50mm and a 75-90mm lens, with a reserve of a 200mm for those occasional long shots. Nowadays, with 16x24 format, the 14, 21, 35, 50 and 77 account for most of my photos, with the 21 and 35 being the most used. I still have the 135mm for that occasional long shot, and the 20-35 is a near perfect cover four with one convenience. I'd really really like a DA28mm f/2 Limited. Nice and compact, please, like the DA21 Limited. That would become my most-used lens. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
AF speeds (was: Pentax glass)
I have a DL, which is the only AF slr I have really used, so I never had anything to compare to. I never went out to look at any of the new bodies, because I can't afford one, so why torture myself? But I happened to be at the store the other day, where they happened to have a K100D... the first thing I noticed is that the shutter button does not have two positions, so I am wondering how you prefocus, and the second thing I noticed is that the AF speed on the 100 seemed about 1000x faster than my DL (both with the 18-55 kit). Do all the earlier (earlier meaning pre 100/110) bodies have that slow AF or is it just the DL, or is it all in my head? (Sometimes I feel like my DL thinks too long, and I would be better off MF.) Thanks. Russ On 12/26/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a bit before i can try it. No outdoor shows for a while. I;ll need to find some horses running around outside in a paddock or a kids out door hockey game, if it ever stops raining here. Sig. Another crappy winter for BW film. I ususually use AF-S for my action work, using the shutter button in a machingun sort of way. I find its easier to get the shot.Sometimes AF-C with dressage works well though. However i am interested on how this K10 will work out. It may make a really good camera to have on site with a good prime for grabing those presentation shots. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm anxious to hear how the K10 works for you in action shoots. So far, I find it works quite well on continuous autofocus. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs with the DA* lenses. Paul On Dec 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Quoting John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humm I use Nikons for my paying work and have good nikonglass aswell. (D1, D1H,D1H,D200, 70-200 F2.8VR etc) However, just because Pentax does not have a five pound body does not mean it cannot be used as a pro camera. I often use my Pentax cameras when i don't want to be noticed, like in street work. I have two systems, and they have different uses. No need to dump one AFAIC. Good luck in your choice. Dave The one thing I've found my Pentax doesn't work well for is sports action. The continuous auto-focus mode just doesn't work fast enough to keep up with baseball, football (American style) or football (what the rest of the world knows as football the US calls soccer), and the buffer isn't large enough or fast enough for motor drive type shots. I'm considering a Nikon D2H 80-200 f/2.8 Yes, i find the same thing, although i have use dthe istD for my equestrian events in a pintch and get good results. I prefer my D1 or D1H. Be carefull with the D2H. Mine and a few others i know, suffered a lot of melt down problems with the D2H. AE board quits, shutter replacements and metering adjustments. With mine, all this and more, in less than 9000 shutters. Possibly some of the problems we're worked out in the D2Hs.??? I rarley use my D2H anymore, its become so unreliable. My two D's produce much nicer and sharper photos. Also, get the 70-200 VR if possible. Its a fantastic zoom, but a bit heavy. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? I seem to find myself at 24 and 50 quite a bit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: AF speeds (was: Pentax glass)
The D/DS/DL generation all have variants of the same AF system, with minor differences in speed between them. The K100/K10 generation have a newer version of the AF system which is substantially faster in operation. G On Dec 26, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: I have a DL, which is the only AF slr I have really used, so I never had anything to compare to. I never went out to look at any of the new bodies, because I can't afford one, so why torture myself? But I happened to be at the store the other day, where they happened to have a K100D... the first thing I noticed is that the shutter button does not have two positions, so I am wondering how you prefocus, and the second thing I noticed is that the AF speed on the 100 seemed about 1000x faster than my DL (both with the 18-55 kit). Do all the earlier (earlier meaning pre 100/110) bodies have that slow AF or is it just the DL, or is it all in my head? (Sometimes I feel like my DL thinks too long, and I would be better off MF.) Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Katarina Käik
I prefer your previous hdr to this one, the sky is too bright. btw... I don't remember if I posted on your prvious post or not, but I like it. On 12/26/06, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061225151807 ^^^ Katarina Passage, Tallinn old town. Interesting place... -- new photos ever so often... http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
Scott - accomodations in NY are VERY expensive... You are welcome to stay with me if you don't mind a small bedroom and a cat in the household. I might be convinced to let you buy me a meal in our wonderful Chinatown or one of the neighborhood places :) Dim sum on Sunday morning would be fun for you, too. BH , of course, is closed on Saturdays but open on Sunday I can certainly point you in the direction of some good stuff to see museum wise. If you really want to be economical, you don't need to take Amtrack - the Septa and NJ transit trains are a cheaper way to go and I think there are off peak rates. Of course, if you were older than you are, it would be really cheap. Ann Scott Loveless wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
Quoting Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? 16-45 f4 is on about 90% of the time. If i go prime for what ever reason, i like my A 28 or A 50. My 50-200 and Sigma 300 at about 5%. However, looking over the net the last few days, the 43 or 77 ltd is looking good. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: AF speeds (was: Pentax glass)
On heavier lenses like my wife's Tamron 28-300, there's a world of difference between the *ist D and the DS, the DS being painfully slow with frequent hunting. The camera/lens combo operates within subjectively acceptable parameters when on the *ist D. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: AF speeds (was: Pentax glass) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:18:11 -0800 The D/DS/DL generation all have variants of the same AF system, with minor differences in speed between them. The K100/K10 generation have a newer version of the AF system which is substantially faster in operation. G On Dec 26, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: I have a DL, which is the only AF slr I have really used, so I never had anything to compare to. I never went out to look at any of the new bodies, because I can't afford one, so why torture myself? But I happened to be at the store the other day, where they happened to have a K100D... the first thing I noticed is that the shutter button does not have two positions, so I am wondering how you prefocus, and the second thing I noticed is that the AF speed on the 100 seemed about 1000x faster than my DL (both with the 18-55 kit). Do all the earlier (earlier meaning pre 100/110) bodies have that slow AF or is it just the DL, or is it all in my head? (Sometimes I feel like my DL thinks too long, and I would be better off MF.) Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO's - Front Yard Birds
There's a feeder within 2 feet of a willow near our front door. Numerous species of birds feed at it. Almost all of them like to hop down a willow branch that has gotten stuck under the feeder, making it a perfect spot on which to focus and train the lens, watching for birds to pass through the field of view. A fun Sunday morning photo opportunity with the first cup of coffee. *ist D, Tokina 500/8, tripod http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375329size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375310 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375303size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375307 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375305size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On 12/26/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott - accomodations in NY are VERY expensive... You are welcome to stay with me if you don't mind a small bedroom and a cat in the household. Thank you very much, Ann. That is most kind. However, I'll have to decline. Christie has a mild cat (or animal hair or some such) allergy which is amplified by her contact lenses. Besides, it's been a VERY long time since we've had an evening without the kids around. ;) I might be convinced to let you buy me a meal in our wonderful Chinatown or one of the neighborhood places :) Dim sum on Sunday morning would be fun for you, too. I can definitely do that. BH , of course, is closed on Saturdays but open on Sunday Whee! I feel a spending, er, shopping spree coming on. I can certainly point you in the direction of some good stuff to see museum wise. That would be very cool. Thanks! If you really want to be economical, you don't need to take Amtrack - the Septa and NJ transit trains are a cheaper way to go and I think there are off peak rates. Of course, if you were older than you are, it would be really cheap. While that sounds nice, we're coming from Harrisburg, PA. Amtrak offers the most direct route. Hopefully, this will all work out within less than two months. We'll see what the weather does. If the winter gets particularly bad we'll probably postpone until March or April. Scott Loveless wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Need: Epson 2200 roll paper holder
I really, really need the roll paper holders for the Epson Stylus Photo 2200. If you have the auto cutter, I'll buy that too. I can't find them for sale anywhere on the web, not even eBay. I thought I grabbed them when I bought the printer from my former employer, but I guess not. Unfortunately, it looks like they were tossed out with the garbage over the weekend. Any help would be immensely appreciated. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: doomsday
I fully aware of that Fiso. Unlike many others, assuming that the world not goes completely wild, I have the recourses to find another home. My point was just to make the list know that I am personally affected by the topic. In other words. I'm not debating just for the fun of the game. I think it is fair towards the list explaining my commitment. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fiso Sent: 26. desember 2006 07:56 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: doomsday Hello Tim, My estimate is that a half meter rise of the sea level will be the end of it. The ground would be washed away during storms. The main street and the church of my village are at the same level and same ground. The impact of Half meter rise means death for millions of people around the world. -- Best regards, Fiso mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far BH is a long-city-block from the train station. Exit from the northwest corner of the station, cross 8th, Ave., and then walk along just north of the old post office building along 33rd St. for the full block. When you get to ninth ave, cross, and stay on the right side of the street, and you'll see the store. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
I stayed at the Hyatt at Grand central station in Nov. My sister was in NYC for work and she kindly shared her room with me so I don't know how much it was, but you don't mention what your budget is either. When I got in at Penn I had the option to walk 10 minutes to the line that Grand Central is on, or take 2 trains to get there -- this was almost about 10 minutes. The hotel squats atop Grand Central, but our room on the 15th or 16th floor was very quiet. If I could afford it, I would stay there again. During the night, I went downstairs to photograph Grand Central. I was not bothered by staff about my camera, but they ripped me a new one for using my tripod. Fine, you can drive a car through the middle of the station but I can't use my tripod :P --skye On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Jostein Øksne wrote: Malcolm Smith wrote: [...] What we all need to do is agree there is a problem and how best to resolve it for everyone; although I suspect the 'facts' issued by governments helps to distract the various populations and allow themselves and big business largely get on with doing what it has always done, with mere lip service to the big issue. The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and 2. continuing the economic growth in the first world countries An economic model to accomodate both does not exist. Jostein Actually one does. However it requires that we not look at earth's resources as the only ones available to us but rather to look to the entire solar system. The global economy is not a zero-sum game. It's raining soup out there and we're stuck in our tent. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: AF speeds (was: Pentax glass)
I tried one of those lenses and didn't like it much, possibly the slow AF performance on the *ist DS contributed to my dislike for it but mostly I just found the lens wasn't fast enough and it was bulky as all heck for my uses. G On Dec 26, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Tom C wrote: On heavier lenses like my wife's Tamron 28-300, there's a world of difference between the *ist D and the DS, the DS being painfully slow with frequent hunting. The camera/lens combo operates within subjectively acceptable parameters when on the *ist D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: AF speeds (was: Pentax glass)
The K100D does indeed have a half-press position on the shutter. The DL/DL2 doe have rather slow AF, the D and DS are faster, but the K100D is faster than the DS and more positive than the D. -Adam Russell Kerstetter wrote: I have a DL, which is the only AF slr I have really used, so I never had anything to compare to. I never went out to look at any of the new bodies, because I can't afford one, so why torture myself? But I happened to be at the store the other day, where they happened to have a K100D... the first thing I noticed is that the shutter button does not have two positions, so I am wondering how you prefocus, and the second thing I noticed is that the AF speed on the 100 seemed about 1000x faster than my DL (both with the 18-55 kit). Do all the earlier (earlier meaning pre 100/110) bodies have that slow AF or is it just the DL, or is it all in my head? (Sometimes I feel like my DL thinks too long, and I would be better off MF.) Thanks. Russ On 12/26/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be a bit before i can try it. No outdoor shows for a while. I;ll need to find some horses running around outside in a paddock or a kids out door hockey game, if it ever stops raining here. Sig. Another crappy winter for BW film. I ususually use AF-S for my action work, using the shutter button in a machingun sort of way. I find its easier to get the shot.Sometimes AF-C with dressage works well though. However i am interested on how this K10 will work out. It may make a really good camera to have on site with a good prime for grabing those presentation shots. Dave Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm anxious to hear how the K10 works for you in action shoots. So far, I find it works quite well on continuous autofocus. I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs with the DA* lenses. Paul On Dec 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Quoting John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humm I use Nikons for my paying work and have good nikonglass aswell. (D1, D1H,D1H,D200, 70-200 F2.8VR etc) However, just because Pentax does not have a five pound body does not mean it cannot be used as a pro camera. I often use my Pentax cameras when i don't want to be noticed, like in street work. I have two systems, and they have different uses. No need to dump one AFAIC. Good luck in your choice. Dave The one thing I've found my Pentax doesn't work well for is sports action. The continuous auto-focus mode just doesn't work fast enough to keep up with baseball, football (American style) or football (what the rest of the world knows as football the US calls soccer), and the buffer isn't large enough or fast enough for motor drive type shots. I'm considering a Nikon D2H 80-200 f/2.8 Yes, i find the same thing, although i have use dthe istD for my equestrian events in a pintch and get good results. I prefer my D1 or D1H. Be carefull with the D2H. Mine and a few others i know, suffered a lot of melt down problems with the D2H. AE board quits, shutter replacements and metering adjustments. With mine, all this and more, in less than 9000 shutters. Possibly some of the problems we're worked out in the D2Hs.??? I rarley use my D2H anymore, its become so unreliable. My two D's produce much nicer and sharper photos. Also, get the 70-200 VR if possible. Its a fantastic zoom, but a bit heavy. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need: Epson 2200 roll paper holder
You can most easily get them as spare parts from Epson directly: Phone Number: (562)276-7202 Hours: Mon.- Fri.6AM-6PM (PT) Godfrey On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:10 PM, John Celio wrote: I really, really need the roll paper holders for the Epson Stylus Photo 2200. If you have the auto cutter, I'll buy that too. I can't find them for sale anywhere on the web, not even eBay. I thought I grabbed them when I bought the printer from my former employer, but I guess not. Unfortunately, it looks like they were tossed out with the garbage over the weekend. Any help would be immensely appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: I don't live in NYC, but I've spent a lot of time there. The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Can't help you there, since I've never gone there by train. But you should not go to NYC and deny yourself the experience of a NYC taxi ride. With luck you won't get the same driver I had one time who laughed hysterically the whole time, or the one who groused that I was only going a few blocks and he wanted a real fare. Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? If you're into looking at fine photography the International Center of Photography is one of those things you should not miss. You can look on their web site at www.icp.org to see what's showing during the time you will be in NYC. The Leica Gallery on Broadway has some great shows. Check their site to see what's hanging when you plan to be there: http://www.leica-camera.us/culture/galeries/gallery_new_york/ MOMA is a must-see if you haven't been before. If you're there in good weather, the South Street Seaport is great fun and offers many photo opportunities. Just some top of the head suggestions. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson roll paper source?
On Dec 26, 2006, at 11:56 AM, John Celio wrote: Does anyone have a good source for Epson roll papers that are the proper size for a 2200? I usually order from BH, but if you specifically want papers you can go to the Epson website. Also, anyone know the max length one can print on the 2200 without RIP software? I think it's the same as the R2400 ... about 40 inches ... but I'm not sure. I just received an order of Moab 13 x 50' Kayenta Matte finish roll paper. Got to give it a try. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: doomsday
There was just a news report on with a very unscientific estimate of the additional CO2 pumped into the air each year because of only modest holiday lighting in the US alone (not counting commercial or civic displays). It was $75 million of electricity and around 140 million tons of CO2. That doesn't begin to count the additional pollutants due to additional driving during the season. Just think if those pollutants weren't emitted and that money was used to fund alternative energy. Tom C. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: doomsday Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:09:22 +0100 I fully aware of that Fiso. Unlike many others, assuming that the world not goes completely wild, I have the recourses to find another home. My point was just to make the list know that I am personally affected by the topic. In other words. I'm not debating just for the fun of the game. I think it is fair towards the list explaining my commitment. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fiso Sent: 26. desember 2006 07:56 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: doomsday Hello Tim, My estimate is that a half meter rise of the sea level will be the end of it. The ground would be washed away during storms. The main street and the church of my village are at the same level and same ground. The impact of Half meter rise means death for millions of people around the world. -- Best regards, Fiso mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas morning
We don't get to see it until Friday (courtesy of some friends). I suspect my wife is a little older than your boy, too :-) On Mon, Dec 25, 2006 at 02:15:22PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: My son is also waiting for the new Dr Who, and he's a bit older than your boys. Dan M On 12/25/06, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First year without early madness. My youngest (now 8 and was crawling about in a playpen when I first posted here!) was the keenest to get downstairs and find what was waiting for her. No Christmas decorations as such this year (only at a high level), as we now have a kitten in the house. My boys were very happy and quiet throughout the day, so they are obviously pleased - and a new episode of Dr. Who for them to watch shortly. A really nice day so far and I hope you all are enjoying the same. Out and about with the camera tomorrow. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Short K10D report
We thought it was hilarious. But oddly, she got only one comment. Regards, Bob S. On 12/26/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's very silly... Bob Sullivan wrote: My first case of battery running out occured today as I was fooling/learning about the menu and options. I've shot 485 pictures, a few with onboard flash. I popped in the spare 3rd party battery and just kept going. My pictures continue to be improved by shake reduction. We went to the King Tut exhibition yesterday and I took a snapshot of a friend in the dim museum hallway. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/KingTut/photo#5012541629732857682 F4 and 1/20th of a second worked great, 1/3 second not so good... Regards, Bob S. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The Big Issue (was Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?)
Jostein and Subash, Of course you are right. Living standards do not have to follow resource consumption or happy living. The traditional issues with living standards are life span and infant mortality. In other words, having enough resources to avoid death and disease. In my book, this is having a higher/happier standard of living. Regards, Bob S. On 12/26/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Subash! I used those terms specifically for their loaded content. :-) And you're absolutely right, of course. Jostein On 12/26/06, SJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:55:14 +0100 Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Big Issue is really the big gap in logic between: 1. granting all the world the same level of living standard as the first world countries, and jostein, much as i agree with most of your logic, i feel the need to butt in with the fact that 'living standard' does not necessarily equate to 'living happily' and that 'first world' is, in spite of the pompousness of the wording, by no means, an ideal... regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
BH is just a couple of blocks from Penn Station. Make sure you go. I don't know if you want to stay at a hotel in the vicinity. That's the garment district, and it's kind of ugly and gloomy. I can't even think of a hotel that's really close. Probably the closest is the Marriott in Times Square, but that's quite the tourist place. It will be filled with Germans and Japanese tourists, which isn't all that bad, but it's a madhouse. You might try the Royalton on 44th street I believe, just east of Times Square. The rooms are tiny but kind of cool, and it has a nice bar scene. My favorite is the SoHo Grand, which is a bit pricey, but it's in Soho, so it's close to some fabulous restaurants and quite a few galleries. It has a great bar scene: The Grand Bar. However, it's a bit distant from the major museums. The Morgan is in the thirties, but on the east side. It's another kind of cool spot with small rooms. It's close to Penn Station, but not within walking distance if you have luggage. If you want to do the museums, you're better off taking a room further north in east midtown. The Loew's Summit on 54th and Lexington used to be somewhat of a bargain. Any midtown hotel is only a short cab or subway ride from Penn Station. If you want to go to the Loew's, you can catch the E train at Penn Station and get off at 53rd and Lexington. It's a no brainer and will only cost you a couple of bucks. Have fun. Paul On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Digital Restoration by Ctein
A few days ago I bought a copy of Digital Restoration From Start to Finish by Ctein. It's published by Focal Press I expect this will become one of the books added to my permanent bookshelf next to the computer desk. Very few books make it to that spot, so this is high praise. My previous best references for this type of work were a pair of books by Katrin Eismann, Restoration and Retouching and Masking and Compositing. I still highly value Eismann's books, but am finding Ctein much easier to read and in some areas much more complete. Where Eismann spends a few pages on scanning, Ctein devotes a full chapter to getting as much as possible out of the original before you ever get to photoshop. The editors at Focal press have made this book much easier to use by listing all of the How-to's in the front of the book. Throughout the book, the how-to's are called out with red labels in the margins. This is supplemented by a red rule in the margin denoting where the how-to begins and ends. Illustrations are excellent. I've been jumping around, reading particularly interesting sections of the book. The description of the curves function is about the best I've read anywhere. My guess is this would be a great book to start learning about retouching. For those that would like to go into more detail, Eismann's books would make a great follow up. For most, it may be the only reference they may need. See you later, GS http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Christmas enablement?
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 09:35:22AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Christmas enablement? The angle of view is one of my favorites. That's why I finally broke down and bought it (I've never bought a prime slower than f/2.8 except for my 15mm). I often used a 28mm as a walkaround standard lens on my MX. I can count on one hand the number of times I've used a lens in the 28-35mm range on 35mm, or my 75mm on the 6x7. William Robb While I've used as wide as 28mm quite frequently (although not as often as I use a focal length in the 120-150 range) I've rarely used anything wider. But I expect I'll have to broaden my horizons (sic) now that I have succumbed to the temptation of the DA fisheye zoom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FT: Epson TO442 TO443
1 Red and 1 blue CX-series ink cartridge. Will trade for a bunch of bw. Or make me an offer. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com http://philosophyforchristians.blogspot.com He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Digital Restoration by Ctein
- Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: Digital Restoration by Ctein A few days ago I bought a copy of Digital Restoration From Start to Finish by Ctein. It's published by Focal Press Ctein is one of the Gods. I expect that book will be very handy. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Digital Restoration by Ctein
Ctein, if you don't already know, is an excellent color printer, a camera and film reviewer, has, with a colleague, written one of the finest tests of enlarger lenses, and has been a fan of Pentax gear in the past. I had the opportunity to meet him at his home some years ago and see first hand some of his work and methodology. IMO, he ranks amongst the greats like Ansel and WES and other marvelous printers and photo artists. I like Eismanns' work as well. Her book on retouching is always close at hand. Shel [Original Message] From: George Sinos A few days ago I bought a copy of Digital Restoration From Start to Finish by Ctein. It's published by Focal Press I expect this will become one of the books added to my permanent bookshelf next to the computer desk. Very few books make it to that spot, so this is high praise. My previous best references for this type of work were a pair of books by Katrin Eismann, Restoration and Retouching and Masking and Compositing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson roll paper source?
I get all my Epson supplies from http://www.atlex.com/ Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Epson roll paper source? Does anyone have a good source for Epson roll papers that are the proper size for a 2200? Also, anyone know the max length one can print on the 2200 without RIP software? Last week I was able to buy (for cheap) most of my old workstation from Reed's as they were closing down. This included my dual-Xeon workstation with two flat-panel monitors and the 2200 I used for producing the store's punch cards and other things. Today I get to clear my workspace at home and see if I can cram all this stuff in there along with the Nikon CoolScan 8000 I got last month. :) Sadly, I couldn't afford the store's Epson Stylus Pro 9600. *sigh* John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO's - Front Yard Birds
Hi Tom very nice, let's me hope for some good bird shots with the Tamron SP 500mm too. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:25 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO's - Front Yard Birds There's a feeder within 2 feet of a willow near our front door. Numerous species of birds feed at it. Almost all of them like to hop down a willow branch that has gotten stuck under the feeder, making it a perfect spot on which to focus and train the lens, watching for birds to pass through the field of view. A fun Sunday morning photo opportunity with the first cup of coffee. *ist D, Tokina 500/8, tripod http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375329size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375310 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375303size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375307 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375305size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/604 - Release Date: 26.12.2006 12:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO's - Front Yard Birds
Nicely done. Pretty birds. Paul On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Tom C wrote: There's a feeder within 2 feet of a willow near our front door. Numerous species of birds feed at it. Almost all of them like to hop down a willow branch that has gotten stuck under the feeder, making it a perfect spot on which to focus and train the lens, watching for birds to pass through the field of view. A fun Sunday morning photo opportunity with the first cup of coffee. *ist D, Tokina 500/8, tripod http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375329size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375310 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375303size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375307 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375305size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO's - Front Yard Birds
All nice captures Tom. I really like the Chickadee. Reminds me very much of what I can capture in my backyard, both the birds background. I shot a couple of Juncos yesterday I'll try to post the in the next few days. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO's - Front Yard Birds There's a feeder within 2 feet of a willow near our front door. Numerous species of birds feed at it. Almost all of them like to hop down a willow branch that has gotten stuck under the feeder, making it a perfect spot on which to focus and train the lens, watching for birds to pass through the field of view. A fun Sunday morning photo opportunity with the first cup of coffee. *ist D, Tokina 500/8, tripod http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375329size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375310 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375303size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375307 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5375305size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
There's a really nice little hotel within spitting distance of Grand Central Station. Has a very European flavor would be considered very romantic by the female persuasion, unfortunately I don't remember the name but I know it was less than a short block from the station. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd BH is just a couple of blocks from Penn Station. Make sure you go. I don't know if you want to stay at a hotel in the vicinity. That's the garment district, and it's kind of ugly and gloomy. I can't even think of a hotel that's really close. Probably the closest is the Marriott in Times Square, but that's quite the tourist place. It will be filled with Germans and Japanese tourists, which isn't all that bad, but it's a madhouse. You might try the Royalton on 44th street I believe, just east of Times Square. The rooms are tiny but kind of cool, and it has a nice bar scene. My favorite is the SoHo Grand, which is a bit pricey, but it's in Soho, so it's close to some fabulous restaurants and quite a few galleries. It has a great bar scene: The Grand Bar. However, it's a bit distant from the major museums. The Morgan is in the thirties, but on the east side. It's another kind of cool spot with small rooms. It's close to Penn Station, but not within walking distance if you have luggage. If you want to do the museums, you're better off taking a room further north in east midtown. The Loew's Summit on 54th and Lexington used to be somewhat of a bargain. Any midtown hotel is only a short cab or subway ride from Penn Station. If you want to go to the Loew's, you can catch the E train at Penn Station and get off at 53rd and Lexington. It's a no brainer and will only cost you a couple of bucks. Have fun. Paul On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Well, I do not feel all that sorry for you. If sea level was to rise a half-meter half or Flordia would be gone, if it rose a meter there would just be a few little islands where millions of people now live. And they would only be a small percentage of the people effected through out the world. A lot of Holland, I understand, is actually below sea level. On the other hand, here is some homework for you. How many gallons of water would have to be added to the worlds oceans to raise sea level 1/2 meter? Next question, how many gallons of water are in the worlds ice caps. Now last question, if the worlds mean temperature went up 10 degrees, how long would it take to entirely melt the ice caps. One of the things that we forget is just how big a place the world is. We think in terms of our town, our city. I have crisscrossed the US by car, train, bus, and a lot of it on foot. Even with that experience it is so big I have a hard time imagining it. The US is a only a small portion of the land in the world. The oceans are 3 times as big as all the land combined. Think of that. Oh yes, and quit watching disaster movies. Tim Øsleby wrote: My 125 year old casa Øsleby is built at sand ground, and is located about two meters above sea level. My estimate is that a half meter rise of the sea level will be the end of it. The ground would be washed away during storms. The main street and the church of my village are at the same level and same ground. The impact of storms could be minimised by building a breakwater, but that will be expensive (because of the ground in the sea) and will also change the village totally. But I'm not general you, I'm just me, my folks and my community ;-) BTW. Casa Øsleby is not a house really, it is more an everlasting project. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- On 25/12/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you (general you) ever thought about the fact that we here are this list are so well off that we are only bothered by things that do not affect us directly. The other 80% of the people in the world should have it so good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
Scott, Inexpensive hotels that lack bedbugs, thugs, or practitioners of the world's oldest profession do not exist in Manhattan. We have stayed at The Milburn, which is in the 80s near Broadway, in a pleasant neighborhood about a 5 minute walk to Central Park and a 10 min walk to the Natural History Museum. Heck, we walked to Times Square from there, but we do a lot of walking (remember the Philly PDML?). IIRC we paid $160 a night a couple of years ago. Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On 12/26/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, Inexpensive hotels that lack bedbugs, thugs, or practitioners of the world's oldest profession do not exist in Manhattan. We have stayed at The Milburn, which is in the 80s near Broadway, in a pleasant neighborhood about a 5 minute walk to Central Park and a 10 min walk to the Natural History Museum. Heck, we walked to Times Square from there, but we do a lot of walking (remember the Philly PDML?). IIRC we paid $160 a night a couple of years ago. Rick Thanks, Rick. It doesn't necessarily need to be inexpensive. We don't get out much together without the kids, so splurging a bit is most definitely called for. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
I usually shoot at 7 or 21 millimeters, and only use the intermediate focal lengths if I can not get farther away, or closer, as the case may be. David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? 16-45 f4 is on about 90% of the time. If i go prime for what ever reason, i like my A 28 or A 50. My 50-200 and Sigma 300 at about 5%. However, looking over the net the last few days, the 43 or 77 ltd is looking good. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On 12/26/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 26, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: I don't live in NYC, but I've spent a lot of time there. The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Can't help you there, since I've never gone there by train. But you should not go to NYC and deny yourself the experience of a NYC taxi ride. With luck you won't get the same driver I had one time who laughed hysterically the whole time, or the one who groused that I was only going a few blocks and he wanted a real fare. LOL. I'll keep that in mind. A few years back I took a cab across St. Louis. I don't recall why exactly, but I did. Anyway, I specified the route I wanted the driver to take and he refused, claiming he knew a shorter way. When we finally arrived at my destination he actually asked me for a tip. I think I said something like piss off'. I guess I even look like a tourist in my own town. Go figure. Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? If you're into looking at fine photography the International Center of Photography is one of those things you should not miss. You can look on their web site at www.icp.org to see what's showing during the time you will be in NYC. The Leica Gallery on Broadway has some great shows. Check their site to see what's hanging when you plan to be there: http://www.leica-camera.us/culture/galeries/gallery_new_york/ I mentioned this to Christie. She wants to partake in some non-photo activities. Like shopping. At Macy's or some crap. Women. HCB's Scrapbook will be at ICP. So I'm going to have to overrule her this time. :) MOMA is a must-see if you haven't been before. If you're there in good weather, the South Street Seaport is great fun and offers many photo opportunities. The Seaport is a possibility. Thanks, Bob. Much appreciated. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: LightZone v2.0 experiences?
I'm enjoying learning it still. The Zonemapper and Tonemapper tools are subtle but fun. Something I've noticed today on a couple of K10D images is that the channels are slightly out of registration ... as if the lens had a lot of chromatic aberration (but I know it doesn't). Not all images, but some. I've reported this as a bug to the software vendor. Godfrey On Dec 26, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: I didn't notice the noise on the right-hand edge until now. Not a big issue, though. otherwise it seems we have about the same impression. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
graywolf wrote: I usually shoot at 7 or 21 millimeters, and only use the intermediate focal lengths if I can not get farther away, or closer, as the case may be. You mean, with a digital camera? Other than that, a 7mm will make everything look funny! ;-) keith -- David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What lenses do you find yourself using most often? Why? 16-45 f4 is on about 90% of the time. If i go prime for what ever reason, i like my A 28 or A 50. My 50-200 and Sigma 300 at about 5%. However, looking over the net the last few days, the 43 or 77 ltd is looking good. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
graywolf wrote: Well, I do not feel all that sorry for you. If sea level was to rise a half-meter half or Flordia would be gone, if it rose a meter there would just be a few little islands where millions of people now live. And they would only be a small percentage of the people effected through out the world. A lot of Holland, I understand, is actually below sea level. On the other hand, here is some homework for you. How many gallons of water would have to be added to the worlds oceans to raise sea level 1/2 meter? Next question, how many gallons of water are in the worlds ice caps. You mean above sea leel? Now last question, if the worlds mean temperature went up 10 degrees, how long would it take to entirely melt the ice caps. TEN degrees? F? Almost unthinkable. I mean, it would never do that short of a genuine Armageddon. World flips poles, stuff like that! Rises we have to worry about, if we want to do that, are more in the order of 1/2 to 3/4 degree! That does enough all by itself. Even 1 degree is unbelievable... I know of no mechanism that would cause that. One of the things that we forget is just how big a place the world is. We think in terms of our town, our city. I have crisscrossed the US by car, train, bus, and a lot of it on foot. Even with that experience it is so big I have a hard time imagining it. The US is a only a small portion of the land in the world. The oceans are 3 times as big as all the land combined. Think of that. That's just surface area! Oh yes, and quit watching disaster movies. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
On Dec 26, 2006, at 5:40 PM, keith_w wrote: graywolf wrote: I usually shoot at 7 or 21 millimeters, and only use the intermediate focal lengths if I can not get farther away, or closer, as the case may be. You mean, with a digital camera? Other than that, a 7mm will make everything look funny! ;-) I seem to recall Tom's got one generation or another Olympus C series camera with something on the order of a 5.5x7.2mm sensor (1/1.8 by the sensor chip scale). Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
keith_w wrote: graywolf wrote: Well, I do not feel all that sorry for you. If sea level was to rise a half-meter half or Flordia would be gone, if it rose a meter there would just be a few little islands where millions of people now live. And they would only be a small percentage of the people effected through out the world. A lot of Holland, I understand, is actually below sea level. On the other hand, here is some homework for you. How many gallons of water would have to be added to the worlds oceans to raise sea level 1/2 meter? Next question, how many gallons of water are in the worlds ice caps. You mean above sea leel? No all of it, after all ice is bulkier than water. Now last question, if the worlds mean temperature went up 10 degrees, how long would it take to entirely melt the ice caps. TEN degrees? F? Almost unthinkable. I mean, it would never do that short of a genuine Armageddon. World flips poles, stuff like that! Rises we have to worry about, if we want to do that, are more in the order of 1/2 to 3/4 degree! That does enough all by itself. Even 1 degree is unbelievable... I know of no mechanism that would cause that. I picked that 10 degrees because that has been suggested as the maximum that would leave the world generally habitable. Yes, short of the sun suddenly going hotter it is almost impossible to conceive. And a degree would cause a change so slow that none of us would be alive to see the results. One of the things that we forget is just how big a place the world is. We think in terms of our town, our city. I have crisscrossed the US by car, train, bus, and a lot of it on foot. Even with that experience it is so big I have a hard time imagining it. The US is a only a small portion of the land in the world. The oceans are 3 times as big as all the land combined. Think of that. That's just surface area! Of course it is. So some home work for you, Keith what would the reduction of land area be in this case? My whole point was that people believe or disbelieve things without doing any sort of check on even the possibility of it. Most of these disaster scenarios require some kind of miraculous condition that there is no know way of ever happening. The sky is falling is so much human nature that there are thousand year old folk tales about it. Sudden global disasters are so rare that there is only evidence of it happening twice since the world was born. Both times it wiped out most of the life on earth. So, yes, it could happen a third time. If it does we will have no control over it, unless we have already left the solar system. However these occurances seem to happen in time frames of hundreds of millions of years and since the last was only 65 million years ago, I doubt we need worry about it right now. Ice ages seem to be on something like a 20 thousand year cycle and probably have more to do with variations in the sun's output than any local effect. Of course all that evidence is bullshit because the world did not exist until I was born, and will cease to exist at my death. GRIN Oh yes, and quit watching disaster movies. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
Scott Loveless wrote: On 12/26/06, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott - accomodations in NY are VERY expensive... You are welcome to stay with me if you don't mind a small bedroom and a cat in the household. Thank you very much, Ann. That is most kind. However, I'll have to decline. Christie has a mild cat (or animal hair or some such) allergy which is amplified by her contact lenses. Sorry to hear it - Alas, I have two good friends here as well that are not comfortable coming to visit either Besides, it's been a VERY long time since we've had an evening without the kids around. ;) hehe - H wonder what he meant by that.. ann scratches head I might be convinced to let you buy me a meal in our wonderful Chinatown or one of the neighborhood places :) Dim sum on Sunday morning would be fun for you, too. I can definitely do that. Ah, I was thinking of that as a thank you for a room :) Unless you are extra flush, just sharing a meal with yout would be fine - I know where the good and inexpensive eats are (Ask Cesar and Frank, to name two) BH , of course, is closed on Saturdays but open on Sunday Whee! I feel a spending, er, shopping spree coming on. I can certainly point you in the direction of some good stuff to see museum wise. That would be very cool. Thanks! If you really want to be economical, you don't need to take Amtrack - the Septa and NJ transit trains are a cheaper way to go and I think there are off peak rates. Of course, if you were older than you are, it would be really cheap. While that sounds nice, we're coming from Harrisburg, PA. Amtrak offers the most direct route. Hopefully, this will all work out within less than two months. We'll see what the weather does. If the winter gets particularly bad we'll probably postpone until March or April Whenever, look forward to meeting you - but I may not accompany you to BH too dangerous! Best ann Scott Loveless wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? Plus, a pilgrimage to BH is, of course, a requisite. The maps I've looked at seem to indicate that their store is very close to the train station. Can anyone confirm this for me? Our time in NYC will be far too short to take in more than one or two sites, so we'd prefer to keep travel within the city to a minimum. Any art museums, restaurants, etc. come to mind? What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Favorite AOV - was Christmas enablement
What, isn't eveyone talking about with a digital camera. OK, I normally use a 135mm lens (OK, now I am talking about with the 4x5 graphic). Those who pay attention will note that all of those give about the same field of view as 35mm lens on 35mm film cropped to 24x32 or so. That is my preferred perspective view for about 70% of my shots, and gives nice shots of people in their environment. My second most liked view is that of about a 100mm lens on the same 24x32 format, as it nicely isolates people from their environments. The other 10% of my photographs over the past 50 years or so have used something else. In other words those two angles of view accounted for about 90% of my photography. Let's see on your DSLR's that would be about 24mm and 75mm lenses. So if anyone sends me their old DSLR, please include a 77 Limited with it, I already have a 24/2 and guess I can get by with the dreaded green button, but certainly would not object to an A24/2 GRIN. keith_w wrote: graywolf wrote: I usually shoot at 7 or 21 millimeters, and only use the intermediate focal lengths if I can not get farther away, or closer, as the case may be. You mean, with a digital camera? Other than that, a 7mm will make everything look funny! ;-) keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Doomsday is coming upon us?
About the feeling sorry for part: I am aware that I am emotional on this, but I'm not after sympathy. I'm just trying to be a strait debater. Se my reply to Fiso. 10 degrees? That won't happen in this century. I think I'll leave the homework to more mathematical brains than mine. But this does not mean that I'm not able to use logic. I don't watch catastrophe movies. Think the last time I saw one was 25 years ago. The reason is simple. They're boring. You (general you) seem to assume a lot about those who has other points of views than yourself. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 27. desember 2006 02:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? Well, I do not feel all that sorry for you. If sea level was to rise a half-meter half or Flordia would be gone, if it rose a meter there would just be a few little islands where millions of people now live. And they would only be a small percentage of the people effected through out the world. A lot of Holland, I understand, is actually below sea level. On the other hand, here is some homework for you. How many gallons of water would have to be added to the worlds oceans to raise sea level 1/2 meter? Next question, how many gallons of water are in the worlds ice caps. Now last question, if the worlds mean temperature went up 10 degrees, how long would it take to entirely melt the ice caps. One of the things that we forget is just how big a place the world is. We think in terms of our town, our city. I have crisscrossed the US by car, train, bus, and a lot of it on foot. Even with that experience it is so big I have a hard time imagining it. The US is a only a small portion of the land in the world. The oceans are 3 times as big as all the land combined. Think of that. Oh yes, and quit watching disaster movies. Tim Øsleby wrote: My 125 year old casa Øsleby is built at sand ground, and is located about two meters above sea level. My estimate is that a half meter rise of the sea level will be the end of it. The ground would be washed away during storms. The main street and the church of my village are at the same level and same ground. The impact of storms could be minimised by building a breakwater, but that will be expensive (because of the ground in the sea) and will also change the village totally. But I'm not general you, I'm just me, my folks and my community ;-) BTW. Casa Øsleby is not a house really, it is more an everlasting project. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- On 25/12/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you (general you) ever thought about the fact that we here are this list are so well off that we are only bothered by things that do not affect us directly. The other 80% of the people in the world should have it so good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Doomsday is coming upon us?
PJ. Why do you say I'm sorry, I refuse to feel in the least guilty? What this about guilt? I don't see any point in making people feeling guilty. I don't blame anybody. I simply see a problem at my radar. What I want are people to first think, and then act. Guilty feeling people don't, they are not doers. I have learned this from my professional life. In my work I deal a lot with dysfunctional families. From this experience it is pretty obvious to me that one important difference between them and the successful ones are that they are occupied blaming each other instead of simply solving problems. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 26. desember 2006 19:51 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? Mostly Hydroelectric from Quebec, and trash to electricity, with peak capacity additions from natural gas, these days. Used to be mostly Nuke produced locally, but those plants have been mainly shut down. I'm sorry, I refuse to feel in the least guilty. Tim Øsleby wrote: It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. I'll give you one reason to minimise use of hot water. Hot water is made of water and energy. Energy is also global. Your electricity could come from any place from the planet, from coal or from gas, or other sources. And waste from fossil electricity production is probably one of the courses to the global heating. So; less use of electric energy means less waste. Less waste means less global heating. Pretty simple really (assuming your energy is not recyclable and locally produced) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 25. desember 2006 08:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us? David Savage wrote: On 12/25/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in a place with abundant water. I can use as much as I wish without adversely affecting your life, or anyone else's. Good news .Should I stop taking hot, (or cold), showers in solidarity with you? No, but if you could keep them down to no longer than a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it. Why prey tell should I? It will end up in the Ocean to be recycled by nature either way. On the other hand a really cold winter can cost a great deal of money in fuel to keep a minimal comfortable temperature, (which for me is really quiet chilly apparently, according to my friends). Will you help me pay my heating bills? If you pay my cooling bill. I really didn't think you would. Do what I do, in reverse, turn the thermostat up. Life on this rock has always been uncomfortable, humans have always attempted to change the environment to make life easier for themselves. True. Increasing population levels add an interesting variable. If you don't like it you can try to live on some other rock, good luck. Funny guy. Consume, consume, consume. What could go wrong? Dave Lots can go wrong. However unless you can find a way that I can teleport some of that water to you I see no point in conserving it. Denying myself a luxurious shower can't help your situation in the least, . It's kind of like cleaning your plate because children are starving in (fill in the blank), they'll keep starving and you'll get fat. Save water because people are thirsty in Australia? Sheesh. Build a desalinization plant. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - query for the NYC crowd
On 12/26/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wife and I are planning a weekend getaway to NYC sometime within the next couple months. The tentative plans include hitching a ride on the Amtrak to Penn Station. Most likely we'll be arriving around lunch time on a Saturday and departing the following afternoon. Would anyone have recommendations for accommodations in the vicinity? I know there are a bunch of hotels on 8th Ave. in the 50's and below. I have found the people on the Fodor's message boards to be most helpful. Here's the US board: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=1 You'll have to register to post a question, but you can search the boards without registering. What's it going to take to convince one or two of you to lead us around on a photo tour? Nate and I would be up for it. You won't have to pull our legs to get us to go to BH, either. ;) Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Digital Restoration by Ctein
Excellent. I'll have to look for that. Ctein was the one I turned to in determining which enlarger lenses to buy. (Thanks to Shel for guiding me tho this resource.) His advice seems right on. I look forward to reading his book. Paul On Dec 26, 2006, at 6:03 PM, George Sinos wrote: A few days ago I bought a copy of Digital Restoration From Start to Finish by Ctein. It's published by Focal Press I expect this will become one of the books added to my permanent bookshelf next to the computer desk. Very few books make it to that spot, so this is high praise. My previous best references for this type of work were a pair of books by Katrin Eismann, Restoration and Retouching and Masking and Compositing. I still highly value Eismann's books, but am finding Ctein much easier to read and in some areas much more complete. Where Eismann spends a few pages on scanning, Ctein devotes a full chapter to getting as much as possible out of the original before you ever get to photoshop. The editors at Focal press have made this book much easier to use by listing all of the How-to's in the front of the book. Throughout the book, the how-to's are called out with red labels in the margins. This is supplemented by a red rule in the margin denoting where the how-to begins and ends. Illustrations are excellent. I've been jumping around, reading particularly interesting sections of the book. The description of the curves function is about the best I've read anywhere. My guess is this would be a great book to start learning about retouching. For those that would like to go into more detail, Eismann's books would make a great follow up. For most, it may be the only reference they may need. See you later, GS http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
Actually mass extinction events are a bit more common than that. Wikipidia has a list of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event graywolf wrote: keith_w wrote: graywolf wrote: Well, I do not feel all that sorry for you. If sea level was to rise a half-meter half or Flordia would be gone, if it rose a meter there would just be a few little islands where millions of people now live. And they would only be a small percentage of the people effected through out the world. A lot of Holland, I understand, is actually below sea level. On the other hand, here is some homework for you. How many gallons of water would have to be added to the worlds oceans to raise sea level 1/2 meter? Next question, how many gallons of water are in the worlds ice caps. You mean above sea leel? No all of it, after all ice is bulkier than water. Now last question, if the worlds mean temperature went up 10 degrees, how long would it take to entirely melt the ice caps. TEN degrees? F? Almost unthinkable. I mean, it would never do that short of a genuine Armageddon. World flips poles, stuff like that! Rises we have to worry about, if we want to do that, are more in the order of 1/2 to 3/4 degree! That does enough all by itself. Even 1 degree is unbelievable... I know of no mechanism that would cause that. I picked that 10 degrees because that has been suggested as the maximum that would leave the world generally habitable. Yes, short of the sun suddenly going hotter it is almost impossible to conceive. And a degree would cause a change so slow that none of us would be alive to see the results. One of the things that we forget is just how big a place the world is. We think in terms of our town, our city. I have crisscrossed the US by car, train, bus, and a lot of it on foot. Even with that experience it is so big I have a hard time imagining it. The US is a only a small portion of the land in the world. The oceans are 3 times as big as all the land combined. Think of that. That's just surface area! Of course it is. So some home work for you, Keith what would the reduction of land area be in this case? My whole point was that people believe or disbelieve things without doing any sort of check on even the possibility of it. Most of these disaster scenarios require some kind of miraculous condition that there is no know way of ever happening. The sky is falling is so much human nature that there are thousand year old folk tales about it. Sudden global disasters are so rare that there is only evidence of it happening twice since the world was born. Both times it wiped out most of the life on earth. So, yes, it could happen a third time. If it does we will have no control over it, unless we have already left the solar system. However these occurances seem to happen in time frames of hundreds of millions of years and since the last was only 65 million years ago, I doubt we need worry about it right now. Ice ages seem to be on something like a 20 thousand year cycle and probably have more to do with variations in the sun's output than any local effect. Of course all that evidence is bullshit because the world did not exist until I was born, and will cease to exist at my death. GRIN Oh yes, and quit watching disaster movies. keith -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
