Speaking of Lightroom and BW ...

2007-01-31 Thread Thibouille
Anybody tried/knows a way of converting to BW using only lightroom
with good results ?

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Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Lacus
 Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D 
 stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit) 
 and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not 
 the fastest, but not a slouch either.
 
 Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another 
 image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time. 
 Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color 
 correction seem to be very unresponsive...

Welcome to the world of Lightroom (beta), Boris. This is exactly the 
reason why Lightroom is NOT for me.

Cheers,

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Re: what do I need to do RAW file processing with the istDS?

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Lacus
J. C. O,

 hi, thanks, I have V2.4 already so I guess I am good on that.
 Im still not clear on Pentax photolab and browser though. Are
 you saying I will want or need to get these latest versions
 or are they all just junk not worth the effort?

as many others I found ACR to be superior over any other RAW converter 
I've tried so far. However I have Pentax utilities stored on a SD card 
right inside my ist-Ds just in case as they occupy roughly the space 
of 2 RAW images (PC version) and the conversions are usually very good 
(version 3 based on SilkyPix) and certainly better than in-camera JPEGs. 
Actually the only major thing ACR seems to do consistently better is 
taming moire/aliasing artefacts.

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Re: New T/C's?

2007-01-31 Thread Patrick Genovese
You know what would be really really really nice a pentax 135-400
f/4.5 it would make a great pair with the upcoming 50-135 f/2.8...
the 60-250 is a bit of a compromise ...had it been a 120-300 or maybe
350 it would be a much better fit in Pentax' lens line. a 120-300
f/2.8 would be lovely especially if it were a DFA* ie you could use it
on film as welll.. Ahem!! Wake up patrick.. stop dreaming!

Regards

Patrick

On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Patrick,

 I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm looking for a good
 200mm+ zoom.  I've always thought the 70-200 f2.8 was too heavy and not
 quite long enough.  I've seen some really nice pictures from the Sigma
 100-300, but I've seen some with very annoying bokeh too that have put
 me off a little (I've noticed this with a few Sigma lenses).

 Then I heard of the DA*60-250 and I thought it sounded just right.
 Now I have to sit and wait for it to be available - and then for it to
 be available in Australia.  I'm hoping for some good 10MP examples with
 it before I can get my hands on it to prove that it's good.  A DA* lens
 should be very good shouldn't it?  Has Pentax made any duds in their
 high end lenses?

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 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


 Patrick Genovese wrote:
  Thanks for the info... I was hoping that someone would trash at least
  one of the combos making my decision easier :-)   The problem with
  Malta is that you have to buy almost on faith... There is no way i'm
  going to be able to try out a 70-200 f/2.8 or a 100-300.. unless I go
  abroad.
 
  Regards
 
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Re: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread J and K Messervy
They look great!   One thing I've struggled with is finding a BW conversion 
technique that I can get consistent, pleasing results with.  Can you give a 
link to the site you mention please?


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Subject: PESO[s] BW Conversions...


 I've come to the conclusion that the software that Mark Roberts has a
 link on his web site to, (the Photoshop plug in that is), for BW
 conversion is just great.  I've got a few new conversions.  A couple
 from a year or two ago and another shot from the Essex Steam Museum,
 (Disabled).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_petulantangels.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_madcongchu.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

 Equipment:
 Pentax *istD or Ds/w Pentax lenses.

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Like a cinnamon crust

2007-01-31 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070128164314

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Re: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread Thibouille
 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_petulantangels.html

Very nice rendering. Not as good old BW film but same kind of
rendering, I like it.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_madcongchu.html

I like the photo but I don't like the color. It seems like there's a
green color cast like printing a BW film on color paper.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

Love it. I love details from old trains.. dirty and all :)
I like the Sepia color. I wonder what it look like with another color
choice... I will grab the pic and try if I can come with another
possibility. Anyway I love the pic as it is.

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Re: OT - Photoshop hints (was Wedding photography advice solicitation)

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Scott,

 One of the things that really speeded up my Photoshop use was using the
 keyboard shortcuts.

 You can select any tool you want by pressing a single button, change to
 scroll mode in any tool by holding down the space bar, adjust brush
 sizes and lots more.  I have assigned dodge and burn to different
 buttons for ease of use.  It doesn't take long to get used to the button
 required for each tool.

 It also lets you remove the tool pallet from view and have pictures full
 screen.

All I can say is dual monitors :-)

 Does anyone else have quick and easy Photoshop hints to make Scott's
 life (and the rest of our lives) easier?

Ctrl (cmd)+alt+~(tilde) will select the highlights. It you then want
to select the shadows hit Ctrl (cmd)+shift+I. Ctrl (cmd)+D to deselect
a selection

Very hand for making quick adjustment layer masks.

Cheers,

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Re: McNaught - At Last!!

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
Well that makes me doubly glad that I saw it :-)

Cheers,

Dave

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 Apparently if you wait a few thousand years you still won't see it.  
 Reports I've read suggest that this is it's first? and last visit as its 
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Re: Speaking of Lightroom and BW ...

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
There is a video tutorial here:

http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

... under Processing  Editing Photos titled Creating Black and
Whites - Matt Kloskowski

BTW the same controls are in ACR for PS CS3.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: any PDMLers in Houston?

2007-01-31 Thread mike wilson

 
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 I will be attending a big BBQ cookoff in Houston with Nate in
 February. 

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Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 31.01.2007, at 09:26 , Peter Lacus wrote:

 Welcome to the world of Lightroom (beta), Boris. This is exactly the
 reason why Lightroom is NOT for me.
Exactly and that's one of the reasons I choosed Aperture over Lightroom.

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Re: Another k10D problem

2007-01-31 Thread Fiso_PENTAX
Hello David,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

 This is a series of pictures of a white piece of tissue used to wrap a
 Christmas gift.  Light was natural, white balance manually set.   
 Updated
 firmware.  Obviously, many of these are 1 or 2 stops underexposed,  
 but,
 I was startled at the bands of color (green to the left, magenta to  
 the
 right).  


I have tried everything  to produce the artefacts you got, but no luck...:)

The 'best' two:  (165k)

www.skiboy.com/fiso/underexpos1.jpg


k10d, supertak M 1.8/55  iso 100

normal daylight through the window,  underexposed.


Or with iso 1600, all the same settings:  (195k)

www.skiboy.com/fiso/underexpos2.jpg


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RE: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm afraid I can't provide you with a good answer. 
At first my Lightroom had acceptable performance, but it has gradually been
slowing down. I don't think it is because of increased numbers of files
(that's what I experienced with RSP), because I haven't photographed much
lately. I have tweaked my PC to make it faster, searched for spyware (found
a lot), and done a few other tricks. Still slow. 

The only thing I have found is that the size of free HD space matters. I've
freed some, and it helps, but not a lot. After this I've got 10% free space.

Now I'm waiting for the final version to solve the problem. If it doesn't,
then I don't really know. Could by more ram, but that's pretty expensive for
a lap top. 


Tim
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I send my questions and concerns ;-).

Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D 
stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit) 
and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not 
the fastest, but not a slouch either.

Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another 
image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time. 
Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color 
correction seem to be very unresponsive...

What is it I am doing wrong?

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Re: Speaking of Lightroom and BW ...

2007-01-31 Thread Thibouille
Excellent... Thanks David !

Will try ASAP :)

2007/1/31, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There is a video tutorial here:

 http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

 ... under Processing  Editing Photos titled Creating Black and
 Whites - Matt Kloskowski

 BTW the same controls are in ACR for PS CS3.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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  Anybody tried/knows a way of converting to BW using only lightroom
  with good results ?
 
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Re: I gotta brag

2007-01-31 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: I gotta brag

 On 1/30/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 small children who couldn't take a hint.  Got any recommendations for
 a low key breed that gets along well with small kids?

 If you want a smaller dog,

I will have a look at your suggestions for my own interest later, 
thanks William.

Half my lifetime ago (maybe more) we researched the matter. My 
recollection is that Bulldog (my personal favourites along with German 
Shepherds) and Boxer are very affectionate and good with children, but 
we were inexperienced and afraid of the combination with their 
strength), and also they were generally pricey. We ended up with a 
Spaniel, no pedigree, which was offered as a Spaniel Field. We never 
researched it further as we were just loking for a companion. He lived 
for 14-15 years and we did love him, but not in the way this dog 
required. We are still heart-broken, esp. when discussing his end of 
old age, but I don't think anyone in the family will ever own a dog 
again. People's mileage thankfully varies a lot from ours.

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Re: PESO: a couple with the K28/3.5

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Yens. BTW, I took the second example down, since it was more a 
sample  of lens performance than it was a shot I wanted on my photo.net 
page.
On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:34 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

 Wow, amazing sharpness/DOF at F1:3.5.
 Nice shot too :-)
 Regards

 Jens Bladt
 Nytarkort / Greeting Card:
 http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html

 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 +45 56 63 77 11
 +45 23 43 85 77
 Skype: jensbladt248

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 Emne: PESO: a couple with the K28/3.5


 As promised, I shot a bit with the SMC Pentax 28/3.5 today. This one is
 wide open at 1/15th, ISO 1600:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5513023size=lg

 This one is f8 at 1/80th, ISO 200, with some transform perspective to
 straighten the verticals:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5513013


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Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Thibouille
This is interesting.
BTW one should  *always* have 5 -10% free space on any disk drive. It
really helps performance (this comment is very general, not Lightroom
related).

2007/1/31, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm afraid I can't provide you with a good answer.
 At first my Lightroom had acceptable performance, but it has gradually been
 slowing down. I don't think it is because of increased numbers of files
 (that's what I experienced with RSP), because I haven't photographed much
 lately. I have tweaked my PC to make it faster, searched for spyware (found
 a lot), and done a few other tricks. Still slow.

 The only thing I have found is that the size of free HD space matters. I've
 freed some, and it helps, but not a lot. After this I've got 10% free space.

 Now I'm waiting for the final version to solve the problem. If it doesn't,
 then I don't really know. Could by more ram, but that's pretty expensive for
 a lap top.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Boris Liberman
 Sent: 31. januar 2007 06:21
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 Subject: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

 I send my questions and concerns ;-).

 Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D
 stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit)
 and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not
 the fastest, but not a slouch either.

 Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another
 image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time.
 Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
 correction seem to be very unresponsive...

 What is it I am doing wrong?

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Re: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. Can you give  us a link to the software or to Mark's site? I no 
longer seem to be able to find a bookmark for Mark's site.
Paul
On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:07 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 I've come to the conclusion that the software that Mark Roberts has a
 link on his web site to, (the Photoshop plug in that is), for BW
 conversion is just great.  I've got a few new conversions.  A couple
 from a year or two ago and another shot from the Essex Steam Museum,
 (Disabled).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_petulantangels.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_madcongchu.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

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RE: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm aware of the 5-10% rule. That's why I did it ;-)


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This is interesting.
BTW one should  *always* have 5 -10% free space on any disk drive. It
really helps performance (this comment is very general, not Lightroom
related).

2007/1/31, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm afraid I can't provide you with a good answer.
 At first my Lightroom had acceptable performance, but it has gradually
been
 slowing down. I don't think it is because of increased numbers of files
 (that's what I experienced with RSP), because I haven't photographed much
 lately. I have tweaked my PC to make it faster, searched for spyware
(found
 a lot), and done a few other tricks. Still slow.

 The only thing I have found is that the size of free HD space matters.
I've
 freed some, and it helps, but not a lot. After this I've got 10% free
space.

 Now I'm waiting for the final version to solve the problem. If it doesn't,
 then I don't really know. Could by more ram, but that's pretty expensive
for
 a lap top.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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 Subject: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

 I send my questions and concerns ;-).

 Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D
 stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit)
 and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not
 the fastest, but not a slouch either.

 Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another
 image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time.
 Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
 correction seem to be very unresponsive...

 What is it I am doing wrong?

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RE: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
A mighty fine picture.


Tim
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Subject: PESO - snow geese and moon

I was visiting my parents this weekend in Fenwick Island, Delaware, 
about 5 miles from the Atlantic beaches and some really nice wetlands. 
Unfortunately, my visit was to help my dad pump about 200 gallons of 
water out of their crawl space...  with a Sears 6 gallon wet-vac.  It 
pretty much took the whole day of crawling on my belly under their house 
when I really wanted to be crawling in the sand shooting shore birds.

When I finished I looked up to see thousands of snow geese flying 
overhead.  Grabbed the ol' camera, 300mm lens and 1.4x TC and started 
shooting.  The light was fading so most of the images are crap but I 
thought I'd post this one for compositional reasons.

http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/snow_moon_IMG_
6067.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/yo5nut

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Re: New T/C's?

2007-01-31 Thread Leon Altoff
Do you know how heavy a DFA 120-300 f2.8 would be?  I'd end up never 
taking it with me.

I'd be really happy with a sharp 250mm f4 on a K10D.


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Patrick Genovese wrote:
 You know what would be really really really nice a pentax 135-400
 f/4.5 it would make a great pair with the upcoming 50-135 f/2.8...
 the 60-250 is a bit of a compromise ...had it been a 120-300 or maybe
 350 it would be a much better fit in Pentax' lens line. a 120-300
 f/2.8 would be lovely especially if it were a DFA* ie you could use it
 on film as welll.. Ahem!! Wake up patrick.. stop dreaming!
 
 Regards
 
 Patrick
 
 On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Patrick,

 I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm looking for a good
 200mm+ zoom.  I've always thought the 70-200 f2.8 was too heavy and not
 quite long enough.  I've seen some really nice pictures from the Sigma
 100-300, but I've seen some with very annoying bokeh too that have put
 me off a little (I've noticed this with a few Sigma lenses).

 Then I heard of the DA*60-250 and I thought it sounded just right.
 Now I have to sit and wait for it to be available - and then for it to
 be available in Australia.  I'm hoping for some good 10MP examples with
 it before I can get my hands on it to prove that it's good.  A DA* lens
 should be very good shouldn't it?  Has Pentax made any duds in their
 high end lenses?

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 Patrick Genovese wrote:
 Thanks for the info... I was hoping that someone would trash at least
 one of the combos making my decision easier :-)   The problem with
 Malta is that you have to buy almost on faith... There is no way i'm
 going to be able to try out a 70-200 f/2.8 or a 100-300.. unless I go
 abroad.

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RE: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
Installing and reinstalling also helps. But not for long :-(


Tim
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Subject: Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

This is interesting.
BTW one should  *always* have 5 -10% free space on any disk drive. It
really helps performance (this comment is very general, not Lightroom
related).

2007/1/31, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm afraid I can't provide you with a good answer.
 At first my Lightroom had acceptable performance, but it has gradually
been
 slowing down. I don't think it is because of increased numbers of files
 (that's what I experienced with RSP), because I haven't photographed much
 lately. I have tweaked my PC to make it faster, searched for spyware
(found
 a lot), and done a few other tricks. Still slow.

 The only thing I have found is that the size of free HD space matters.
I've
 freed some, and it helps, but not a lot. After this I've got 10% free
space.

 Now I'm waiting for the final version to solve the problem. If it doesn't,
 then I don't really know. Could by more ram, but that's pretty expensive
for
 a lap top.


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 I send my questions and concerns ;-).

 Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D
 stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit)
 and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not
 the fastest, but not a slouch either.

 Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another
 image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time.
 Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
 correction seem to be very unresponsive...

 What is it I am doing wrong?

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Re: Like a cinnamon crust

2007-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
I like the second one; the first one doesn't excite
me.

Rick

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-01-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Child friendy dogs?  How about a Golden Retriever.

25 years ago, the Judge next door had a Golden.
It was smart and mischevious, but very kid friendly.
The Judge and his wife were in their 60's, so the dog
would run away (escape) to the local grade school
for a visit with kids.  Of course, the police had to
take the dog into custody and remove it.  The Judge
got several calls on the bench.  :-(

We have pictures of my oldest child as a two year old,
sitting on this dog as if to ride it.  Of course, he has a
Golden Retriever today as a happy memory of the old
dog next door.  It's a very happy and friendly animal.
They have no children, but the dog plays with any neighbor's kids.

Regards,  Bob S.



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 From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: I gotta brag


  On 1/30/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We have found that three dogs is the right number of dogs. One dog is
  rarely
  the right number, two dogs is generally not right either.
  A happy dog has other dogs in the family.
 
  Durn.  I always wanted a St. Bernard.  Might as well buy horses with
  what it's gonna cost to feed three of them.

 Any dog may get along well as an only animal, but my experience is that one
 has feer behavioural problems when multiple dogs are present. One tends to
 act as a foil for the other. Three seems good because if one gets anoyed,
 the other two will generally amuse each other.

 
  I had a malamute when I was in high school.  She was a wonderful dog.
  Wanderlust was a problem.  She'd disappear for a few days every month
  or so.  Gave me fits, but she always came home.  That breed is a
  little on the irritable side in general, and mine didn't much care for
  small children who couldn't take a hint.  Got any recommendations for
  a low key breed that gets along well with small kids?

 If you want a smaller dog, either a Couton or Havanese might be worth a
 look.
 Wheaton Terriers also seem to get along well with kids, and are a bit
 bigger.
 Staffordshire Terriers (not Pitbull or AmStaff Terriers, which are an
 American invention of dubious worth) are also good with kids, and were, in
 fact, known as Nanny's dogs in Victorian times.
 The Mastiff breeds also tend to be good dogs with kids, although because of
 the size of them, can accidentally hurt a child without meaning harm.
 I am as inclined to look at the individual temperment as well as breed
 temperment when choosing a dog, and would advise this especially when
 choosing a dog that will need to interact successfully with children.
 Stay away from breeds which tend to be dominant (Shih Tzus are a good
 example), or dogs from a breeder who breeds eitherShutzund or
 police/military dogs.
 Belgian Shephers might be a good dog to look into, apparently they are quite
 child friendly, and a smallish female will be less than 50 pounds/22 inches.
 Male vs. female is a toss up. I would tend to go for a female with kids, but
 a calm and stalwart male can also be a good choice.
 My neice, when she was about 6, taught my Rotties to let her ride them. I
 think Rollei would have died for her, but he was a very easy going boy.
 Leica, as easy going as she is, doesn't suffer fools, which makes her a bit
 less able to tolerate children, though she has never shown anything other
 than infinite patience for them.

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Re: any PDMLers in Houston?

2007-01-31 Thread Amita Guha
It's a cooking contest where prizes are offered for different
categories: You can look at the last paragraph here to see what I
mean:
http://www.hlsr.com/et/bbqc/bbqc_index.aspx

Nate and I have hosted a couple of small cookoffs at our place. They
are a lot of fun.

Amita


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  I will be attending a big BBQ cookoff in Houston with Nate in
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Re: Another k10D problem or just an old one?

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
I'm with Godders on this one...  Maybe something to do with the type of 
window.  For example, argon gas between the panes or a UV (or some other 
  insulating filter) on the glass could cause weird colors that may 
otherwise not be noticed by your eyes.  Better to test outdoors in 
real natural light.

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Hmm. I would be inclined to think that there's some odd refraction  
 happening through the window which is not visible to the eye. I  
 understand the captures are well-underexposed, that would exacerbate  
 the appearance of the rainbow.
 
 Test with other lighting ... particularly one in which there is no  
 glass in the light path.
 
 G
 
 On Jan 30, 2007, at 6:53 PM, David Weiss wrote:
 
 Godfrey,

 As to your questions below:

 Light source was sunlight through the window.  With the amount of snow
 on the ground, a lot of that light was reflected sunlight.  I adjusted
 the white balance manually and it seemed fine.

 I am going to check it again with other light sources and some other
 subjects and without underexposure.

 No filters used or hood, but light was at my back so no light entering
 lens at oblique angles.

 Thanks for the reply.

 I sent a note to pentax USA, referring them to my images.  Hope they
 take a look.


 Dave


 
 


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Re: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
P. J. Alling wrote:

 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

I don't normally go for sepia pictures, but this one works very well. 
Nicely done

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Re: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
ann sanfedele wrote:


 http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/snow_moon_IMG_6067.jpg
 http://tinyurl.com/yo5nut

 What do you think?

  

 I think I like it quite a lot...
 decisive moment stuff (unless, of course, you made two different pixs 
 and combined them in PS :)

HAR!  To be honest, I wouldn't have a clue on how to do that!  Thanks, Ann.

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Re: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
Tim Øsleby wrote:
 A mighty fine picture.
tional reasons.
 
 http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/albums/userpics/10001/snow_moon_IMG_
 6067.jpg
 http://tinyurl.com/yo5nut

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Re: Why small camera shops are useful

2007-01-31 Thread Adam Maas
Thibouille wrote:
 This is just an example...
 
 For a couple weeks I tried to find my proof of purchase of my DA
 50-200 I bought back in last August. I wanted to insure my
 photographic hardware (the part which can be insured which means, new
 or almost hardware) and did not found my ticket. :|
 
 I bought that lens in the shop near mine. A rather small shop with 2nd
 hand but the boss in a Pentax fan ;) Anyway... I asked if he could
 provide me with a copy of the original proof of purchase. He said that
 if I did get one, it should be no problem.
 
 Unfortunately, he found that I bought the lens and did not ask for a
 propoer proof of purchase. Just had the the proof of payment (which
 doesn't mention the product) and that ticket was crap thermal paper -
 You can't even read it anymore. Good luck for the insurance.
 
 He saved me: he offered me to make another proof of purchase.. dated today.
 Happy, I can insure my lens :-)
 
  Next time... I should *always* ask for a proper proof of
 purchase mentioning both price and product name.
 
 Still I think a bigger shop, supermarket-like shop would probably
 refuse to do anything.
 It only makes me even more convinced that paying a bit more buying
 there is no loss at all.  I wouldn't change shop. Happy. :)
 

With any of the larger stores I deal with, as long as they have your 
info on file and you know the date you bought it, it's trivial to get a 
replacement proof of purchase. In fact I'll be doing this in a day or 
two with my laptop so I can get my free copy of Windows Vista.

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RE: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-01-31 Thread Henk Terhell
Christian
I visited the exhibition of the World Wild Life contest yesterday and I
think your picture is of the level I have seen there. 

Henk

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Re: Why small camera shops are useful

2007-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin
Adam Maas wrote:

 In fact I'll be doing this in a day or two with my
 laptop so I can get my free copy of Windows Vista.

That's likely to be worth exactly what you paid for it. :-)

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Re: PESO - snow geese and moon

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
Henk Terhell wrote:
 Christian
 I visited the exhibition of the World Wild Life contest yesterday and I
 think your picture is of the level I have seen there. 

you are way too kind, but thanks.  The geese in my shot are WAY to 
blurry to print this thing bigger than 4x6 and would never pass muster 
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Re: I gotta brag

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

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From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: I gotta brag


 Child friendy dogs?  How about a Golden Retriever.

The number 1 biter in North America?
The new health disaster looking for a place to happen?
Sorry, not for me. Goldens aren't dogs they used to be.

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice 
solicitation


 Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally, I'd
 recommend just a standard lens. It'll keep you from being caught flat
 footed, by having a lens off the camera when something happens, or from
 wedging a lens when trying to change it quickly.

 I can do that.  By standard lens I'm assuming you mean a 28-80 zoom
 or something similar.  Or did you mean a 50?  I'm not sure I could do
 an entire wedding with a 50.  Some might be able to, but I doubt I
 could make it look good.

I tend to treat zooms like as if they have leprosy. I've made a couple of 
exeptions in the recent past to get focal lengths that I want, but there are 
too many compromises in zoom lensrs to allow me to love them.
If you are shooting digital, something in the 28-35mm range should be your 
do everything lens, perhaps add something longer to do individual portraits 
with. The 50mm focal length is a tad short, but very workable as a portrait 
length lens on digital.
If you are going to insist on using a zoom, try for one that has a fixed 
aperture to keep your flash shots looking the same from FL to FL

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Re: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
J and K Messervy wrote:

They look great!   One thing I've struggled with is finding a BW 
conversion 
technique that I can get consistent, pleasing results with.  Can you 
give a 
link to the site you mention please?

I think this is the software to which he's referring:
http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm

My web site is down now due to connectivity issues but should be back 
on line shortly.


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Subject: PESO[s] BW Conversions...


 I've come to the conclusion that the software that Mark Roberts has a
 link on his web site to, (the Photoshop plug in that is), for BW
 conversion is just great.  I've got a few new conversions.  A couple
 from a year or two ago and another shot from the Essex Steam Museum,
 (Disabled).

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_petulantangels.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_madcongchu.html

 http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

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Re: PESO--Ball

2007-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Really interesting and probably marketable! If it were mine, I'd be
wishing the ball were a bit sharper edged and the shadow perfectly
centered. I feel this type image requires balanced geometry.
Its glow adds a lot.

Jack
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 A bit of a departure for me, this shot.  A week or so
 ago, on another Sunday afternoon with dim, utterly
 flat light outside, I felt desperate to click the
 shutter on my ist D.  This superball was lying around,
 so I played with it (photographically) for a while. 
 This shot was taken on the dining room table,
 illuminated from above by an incandescent fixture and
 from the left by a tiny LED flashlight.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5529796
 
 For some reason, I can't get the saturation to match
 what it is in the unposted jpg, but that's the
 internet for you.
 
 ist D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, 1/20 @ f/4.5, RAW via ACR
 and PE4.  I focused on a cat hair on the ball's
 surface, which I removed with PE4.
 
 Comments, rave reviews, scathing criticism all
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Re: The K10D flash problem that isn't (well not really)

2007-01-31 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:10:22 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Sounds about like me.  If you are going to use a flash, use a REAL
flash.  On all my cameras from way back that had a pop up flash, I
think I have used it perhaps 5 or 6 times in all.  It is a stop gap
for the few times I am unprepared and am willing to compromise the
photo.

Agree mostly, however with the new firmware it can trigger
your other flashes. I am using it now with a 360FGZ and 540FGZ
positioned roughly on the sides, and the popup flash to
control them and provide some fill-in at the front ...

Works nicely, on the istD as well as the K10D, for an example see:

http://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=1282

Showing the O-ME53 eye-piece on the K10D ...

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At any 
size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference between a shot taken with 
the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA 16-45/4. I used the latter at the 
reception of the wedding I recently shot. It was perfect, and I needed a 
variety of focal lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 on one camera 
and the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot available light in this 
venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I used the longer one on the 
K10D so that I'd have shake reduction. Although I shot excluisively with primes 
for my first 25 years of photography, I now consider zooms indispensible and 
quite good. A single focal length at a reception could exclude shots like large 
tables and even big groups.
Paul
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 From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice 
 solicitation
 
 
  Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally, I'd
  recommend just a standard lens. It'll keep you from being caught flat
  footed, by having a lens off the camera when something happens, or from
  wedging a lens when trying to change it quickly.
 
  I can do that.  By standard lens I'm assuming you mean a 28-80 zoom
  or something similar.  Or did you mean a 50?  I'm not sure I could do
  an entire wedding with a 50.  Some might be able to, but I doubt I
  could make it look good.
 
 I tend to treat zooms like as if they have leprosy. I've made a couple of 
 exeptions in the recent past to get focal lengths that I want, but there are 
 too many compromises in zoom lensrs to allow me to love them.
 If you are shooting digital, something in the 28-35mm range should be your 
 do everything lens, perhaps add something longer to do individual portraits 
 with. The 50mm focal length is a tad short, but very workable as a portrait 
 length lens on digital.
 If you are going to insist on using a zoom, try for one that has a fixed 
 aperture to keep your flash shots looking the same from FL to FL
 
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Re: I gotta brag

2007-01-31 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: I gotta brag
 
 
 Child friendy dogs?  How about a Golden Retriever.
 
 The number 1 biter in North America?
 The new health disaster looking for a place to happen?
 Sorry, not for me. Goldens aren't dogs they used to be.
 

The scourge of being popular.  Labradors, Goldens, Cocker Spaniels, 
Dalmatians...  Once the popularity hits, the breed is pretty much done. 
  you CAN still get good dogs from good breeders, but most of the dogs 
in these breeds come from people thinking it would be fun or cute to 
have a litter of puppies.

I had a German Shorthaired Pointer that came from fantastic breeding 
(his grandfather was the top GSP in the country the year my dog was 
born).  I was both excited and dismayed to see a GSP win the Westminster 
dog show a year or so ago.  Excited because GSPs are real dogs :-) not 
fru-fru ankle biters, and the bitch that one was gorgeous and would lock 
into this perfect pose.  Dismayed because the breed's popularity would 
most likely increase and the wrong people would be getting and breeding 
them for the wrong reason.

A few years ago the Today show was filming in the Chesapeake Bay area 
for history, tourism, etc. and they interviewed a breeder and hunter of 
Chesapeake Bay Retrievers.  The reporter was very enthusiastic about the 
breed as the dogs were leaping off a dock into very cold water to 
retrieve dummies, and her last question was Do they make good pets? 
Without hesitation the breeder/hunter said No and explained that 
because they are bred for hunting they require way more work than the 
average family is able/willing to give.  The same goes for any real 
hunting breed (including GSPs).  Golden retrievers have pretty much lost 
the hunting edge and have become in-bred fluffy family dogs with too 
much energy for their owners and, as Bill said, a health disaster.

I don't have a dog now because the ONLY dog I will get will be another 
GSP and I just don't have the space or time for one right now.

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Re: any PDMLers in Houston?

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Jordan
There is a chance that I may be there then. I'm currently spending about 
half my life in Houston and could be there at the end of the month. Will 
keep in mind and let you know if my dates fit.

Peter

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Subject: any PDMLers in Houston?


I will be attending a big BBQ cookoff in Houston with Nate in
 February. I will be there Friday  - Sunday , Feb. 23 - 25th. On
 Friday, we are going to the cookoff with business associates of Nate's
 (the company is sponsoring a pit). On Saturday we're hanging out with
 a friend of mine, so plans are up in the air, but I'm sure there will
 be drinking involved at some point. This friend of mine will have just
 moved to Houston, so she's interested in meeting folks down there.

 Anyway, would anyone be up for meeting up either at the BBQ on Friday
 or sometime on Saturday?

 Amita

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RE: PESO - The End Revisited - Art Show

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
I sniffed around to find the original of The End. The new look is a lot
better. 
ReCongratulation.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Sent: 29. januar 2007 17:09
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - The End Revisited - Art Show

I mentioned a while back that I entered a local  art show at the beginning
of 
Dec. and sold a photograph. My first ever.  :-)

The show was mainly pottery, jewelry, and painting, and about only  four 
photographers. One guy used medium format and did landscapes --
breathtakingly 
beautiful. Well, he was in his twenties and willing to lug that  large thing

around, thus I barely envied him. (Barely ;-))

So I was glad  to sell one. And it was my biggest and highest priced one
too. 
Also my most  artified, the only photographic I put in the show. I was 
wondering how that  would go over, and evidentially at least one person
really 
liked the  idea.

I also mentioned it was The End that I showed on list, oh, about  6-8 months

ago.

Several liked it back then as a straight photo (well, not  totally straight,

I had BW converted it and left some areas color). But I  also got a fair 
amount of technical criticism on it, not sharp enough. So I went  back to
reshoot 
it and found they had changed the sign, which really nixed  reshooting it.

So I artified it more to cover up any lack of sharpness  and because I had a

mental image of the way I would like it to be. Actually this  is still not
the 
way I'd like it to be -- I'd like it even more BW as in  almost a combo of 
high and low key, etc. But it comes closer than the original  did. Someday I

will rework it again.

Tim, or someone, said they'd like to  see what sold. So here it  is:

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/theend2.htm

It was  shot when my mother was ill. I also included in the show my Mom
grief 
series,  the Mohave Joshua Tree, the Yosemite BW/color combo shot, and a
few 
others  I've shown previously on  list.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/KIDDO/index.htm
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/mohavesky.htm
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/postcard.htm
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/magic.htm
http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/joy.htm


Comments  are not really necessary unless you want. Because, other than 
newbies, most of  you have seen them before. 

But no yucking, please. I know a lot of you  like you photography straight
up 
-- no water, no ice, no mixing.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)  


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Re: Speaking of Lightroom and BW ...

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom v4.1beta has simpler BW conversion controls: just click  
Grayscale in the Develop Basic module then the Grayscale Mixer is  
available to do a similar thing that's in the v1.0 release.

Watching these videos on version 1.0 is great ... they've fleshed out  
so many of the bits that are good but not quite complete in the beta  
release. :-)

G

On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:31 AM, David Savage wrote:

 There is a video tutorial here:

 http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/index.html

 ... under Processing  Editing Photos titled Creating Black and
 Whites - Matt Kloskowski

 BTW the same controls are in ACR for PS CS3.

 On 1/31/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody tried/knows a way of converting to BW using only lightroom
 with good results ?


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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation


I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At 
any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference between a shot 
taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA 16-45/4. I used the latter 
at the reception of the wedding I recently shot. It was perfect, and I 
needed a variety of focal lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 
on one camera and the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot 
available light in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I 
used the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction. Although 
I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of photography, I now 
consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A single focal length at a 
reception could exclude shots like large tables and even big groups.

For the first 20 years of my wedding career, I stuck with a standard lens 
and nothing else. If I felt the shot was important enough, I got it. I 
played with zooms a bit after that, and went back to primes very quickly.
Scott, by his own admission isn't experienced in this sort of photography, 
why would you recommend he makes his job more difficult than it needs to be?
Too often, your advice or anecdotes are based on experiences that don't have 
a solid footing in the reality that 99% of shooters have to deal with.
We don't all get to play footsie with Clint Clemons.

William Robb


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Re: Why small camera shops are useful

2007-01-31 Thread Adam Maas
Doug Franklin wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:
 
 In fact I'll be doing this in a day or two with my
 laptop so I can get my free copy of Windows Vista.
 
 That's likely to be worth exactly what you paid for it. :-)
 

Probably but I've been missing a few OS X features that Vista has stolen.

-Adam

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Re: I gotta brag

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Christian
Subject: Re: I gotta brag


 I don't have a dog now because the ONLY dog I will get will be another
 GSP and I just don't have the space or time for one right now.

My parents' neighbour kept GSPs. They were excellent dogs, and were very 
good with the kids. They were also very high drive animals that required a 
lot of exercise.
It's sad what they have done to Goldens, they have gone from being a great 
dog to one that will probably break your heart in very short order.
Hip and elbow displasia are really common, and they are now prone to early 
heart failure, and a host of other genetic problems.
It boils down to making sure your breeder has done his homework, and at the 
very least, the sire and dam should have eye, hip and elbow clearances.
Any breeder that tells you he isn't having health problems in his program 
either hasn't been at it for long, or is a liar. It doesn't matter how 
reputable the breeder is, there are going to be problems in any breed of dog 
now.

William Robb 


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Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's difficult to judge the performance of the v1.0 release version  
by running the v4.1 beta release. In addition, the Windows version in  
v4.1 beta isn't as well tuned as the Mac OS X version ... the latter  
had about a year's more development/optimization time when the  
Windows version was released and they haven't posted more than one  
Public Beta version update for the Windows product, while there were  
at least three for the Mac OS X version. I suspect they've been  
tuning and testing the Windows version rather a lot more than is  
visible with the public beta.

There is far greater variability in quality and performance between  
hardware platforms in the Windows marketplace compared to the Mac OS  
X marketplace.

I try to keep at least 20-30% free space on my working system's boot  
drive for best performance. That's what all the backup data drives  
are for. ;-) Both Windows XP and Mac OS X are virtual memory OS  
systems and do a lot of back and forth to the drives when using  
large, complex image processing applications. Total RAM, speed of the  
drives and free space all combine to influence performance in big ways.

Just for reference with Lightroom v4.1 Beta ...

All my systems are running Mac OS X v10.4.8.

- Running on a PowerMac G5 2.0Ghz DP with 3G RAM and a 500Gbyte drive  
with 200Gbyte free space.

I've been using Lightroom v4.1 beta for two months on a regular  
basis. Last import was 8500 DNG files, imported by reference. That  
took about 45 minutes, complete. Total number of files in the Library  
now is around 28,000. I've seen no slowdowns and performance  
switching image files is pretty snappy, all controls operate smoothly  
and without hesitation.

- Running on a Mac Book with 2.0Ghz Intel dual core and 2G RAM, 60G  
drive with 30G free space:

With 100 files on board, performance seems very similar to the Power  
Mac G5 above. This isn't my machine so I can only test on it  
occasionally.

- Running on a PowerBook G4 1.67Ghz with 1.5G RAM and an 80Gbyte  
drive with 20Gbyte free space:

Imported 250 DNG files by reference, took about 10 minutes. Total in  
the Library now comes to about 380 files. Performance with the  
trackpad is a little unresponsive ... I find it easier and more  
precise to use the arrow keys in the Develop module. No particular  
slowdowns, but you can definitely see that the single processor/older  
chip configuration leaves a bit to be desired. The same differential  
in performance is easily visible when running Photoshop CS2+Bridge 
+Camera Raw.

Godfrey



On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Thibouille wrote:

 Yes I can second that.
 On my old PC (my laptop is modern but not hte other PC) which is
 AthlonXP 2GHz, 768 RAM etc... Lightroom is VERY slow. To the point
 that when it begins to rebuild its thumbnail database (every program
 start.. don't ask me why it acts like that) my computer is simply
 unusable.

 My laoptop being dual core, it is usable, slower due to disc access,
 but usable. However I wouldn't want a final product to behave as the
 beta does, for sure.

 2007/1/31, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I had similar experiences and from my reading on the boards, many
 people have the same problems.  I know that if I would load the
 program and walk away for about 20 minutes, it would cache things and
 I don't know what else, but would run at a reasonable speed after  
 that
 - not blazingly fast, but tolerable.  Sorry to offer no help, but I
 can sympathize with your experience.  The product itself is rather
 slick and quite capable.  I may look again when it is released, but I
 finally gave up on the beta due to performance.

 --
 Bruce


 Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 9:21:09 PM, you wrote:

 BL I send my questions and concerns ;-).

 BL Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is  
 all my K10D
 BL stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not  
 64 bit)
 BL and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on  
 board. Not
 BL the fastest, but not a slouch either.

 BL Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open  
 another
 BL image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite  
 some time.
 BL Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
 BL correction seem to be very unresponsive...

 BL What is it I am doing wrong?


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Re: Why small camera shops are useful

2007-01-31 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/31/07 10:02 AM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's likely to be worth exactly what you paid for it. :-)
 
 
 Probably but I've been missing a few OS X features that Vista has stolen.

Well, see this but click on vote results of Vista: Now or never :-).

http://news.com.com/Vista+steals+the+show/2100-1016_3-6154632.html

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Re: Like a cinnamon crust

2007-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070128164314

The bokeh on that lens gives me the willies.

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Re: Another k10D problem or just an old one?

2007-01-31 Thread Gonz
I think its in Italian flag mode, did you get the K10D World cup edition 
or something?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Well, the other day I decided to take a look at this k lens 
 underexposure issue (which appears to be a real problem) and instead 
 found another problem.  Here are the pictures:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 
 This is a series of pictures of a white piece of tissue used to wrap a 
 Christmas gift.  Light was natural, white balance manually set.  Updated 
 firmware.  Obviously, many of these are 1 or 2 stops underexposed, but, 
 I was startled at the bands of color (green to the left, magenta to the 
 right).
 
 Photos 1-3:  Three is probably close to being exposed properly, but it 
 still has a hint of the problem.  The others show it clearly.
 
 Photos 4-6:  So I decided to look at photos that were overexposed at 
 different f stops.  I don't see the problem in 4 and 5, but it shows up 
 again in 6.
 
 Photos 7-9:  So I thought to change lenses.  Still there on 9, small 
 aperture again.
 
 Photo 10:  Might as well check the problem at 400 sensitivity.  A hint 
 of the problem.
 
 Photo 11: There it is again.
 
 Seems that the combination of high sensitivity, small aperture and 
 underexposure causes the problem.
 
 I also tried RAW and normal instead of bright mode, this did not cause 
 the problem to be eliminated.
 
 So, is this just the infamous banding problem magnified a bit?
 
 Is this just my camera?  I hope someone can verify for me that this is 
 just a characteristic of this camera.  Not that this would thrill me, 
 because I expect something to work properly, but at least I wouldn't 
 send my camera in again.
 
 I know that I am not likely to shoot under these conditions, but it 
 would be nice if the camera worked properly just the same.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
In many ways, a zoom is easier to use than a prime, particularly when one has 
to work in crowded or camped locations. Zooms are now the recommended lenses 
for beginers. Scott is more than experienced enough to handle a zoom. My 
experience, BTW, is pretty conventional and for the most part, that of a 
hobbyist.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation
 
 
 I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At 
 any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference between a shot 
 taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA 16-45/4. I used the latter 
 at the reception of the wedding I recently shot. It was perfect, and I 
 needed a variety of focal lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 
 on one camera and the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot 
 available light in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I 
 used the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction. Although 
 I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of photography, I now 
 consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A single focal length at a 
 reception could exclude shots like large tables and even big groups.
 
 For the first 20 years of my wedding career, I stuck with a standard lens 
 and nothing else. If I felt the shot was important enough, I got it. I 
 played with zooms a bit after that, and went back to primes very quickly.
 Scott, by his own admission isn't experienced in this sort of photography, 
 why would you recommend he makes his job more difficult than it needs to be?
 Too often, your advice or anecdotes are based on experiences that don't have 
 a solid footing in the reality that 99% of shooters have to deal with.
 We don't all get to play footsie with Clint Clemons.
 
 William Robb
 
 
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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/31/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation


 I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At
 any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference between a shot
 taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA 16-45/4. I used the latter
 at the reception of the wedding I recently shot. It was perfect, and I
 needed a variety of focal lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4
 on one camera and the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot
 available light in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I
 used the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction. Although
 I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of photography, I now
 consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A single focal length at a
 reception could exclude shots like large tables and even big groups.

 For the first 20 years of my wedding career, I stuck with a standard lens
 and nothing else. If I felt the shot was important enough, I got it. I
 played with zooms a bit after that, and went back to primes very quickly.
 Scott, by his own admission isn't experienced in this sort of photography,
 why would you recommend he makes his job more difficult than it needs to be?
 Too often, your advice or anecdotes are based on experiences that don't have
 a solid footing in the reality that 99% of shooters have to deal with.
 We don't all get to play footsie with Clint Clemons.

I really appreciate all of the advice I've received, and I certainly
didn't mean to start an argument.  Discussion, even with
disagreements, is good, though.  My initial intention was to shoot the
wedding with the K100D, the kit lens, and a telephoto zoom.  Not
ideal, I know, but I'm not professing any ability at this kind of
thing.  I'm also not going to invest in new lenses to shoot a wedding
for free.  That will have to wait until I decide if this is a field I
want to try to make some money in.

In addition to the digital rig, I had planned to bring along the MX
with a couple of primes and some Neopan 1600 for a little contrast to
the color images.  And one other film body, just in case I have
problems with the digital rig.

Most of my shooting these days involves chasing two little girls
around, and I'm in a fast action mode.  The zoom lenses tend to be
ideal for this.  On the other hand, I've always preferred shooting
with primes, but I'm not good enough for the primes to offer any
sharpness advantage when shooting without a tripod.  I'm not fast
enough to keep up with the kids, either.  So I rarely use a prime lens
anymore.

I read a magazine article a while back about the wedding
photographer's lens kit.  It was an older article from the 70s or 80s,
which discussed Nikon's recommendations.  The lenses were a 35, 50,
and an 85 or 105 (I think).  Imagine showing up to a wedding these
days with a couple of old manual cameras and a few primes!  It seems
like most photogs I read about are carrying the latest and greatest
digital rigs with IS lenses, a laptop, at least one assistant, a
myriad of lights, and if they have a film camera at all it's an F5 or
a Leica.  Who the hell can afford to do weddings like this?  On the
contrary, most of the wedding photographers I actually see are either
shooting with medium format or a Fuji digital body, and working their
butts off because their assistant didn't show up or they didn't have
one in the first place.

I have a little time to prepare, and I may just decide to suck up the
expense and shoot the whole thing on film.

Thanks again, and keep it coming!

-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com
Shoot more film!

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
To each their own. I think if I was able to scout a location ahead of time, I 
might consider using  a prime for some events. But that isn't always the case. 
For example, I had no idea how close I could get shooting the ceremony in the 
courthouse. I didn't want to have to swap lenses. Thus, two cameras and a range 
of 16mm to 200mm. 
 -- Original message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Personally, I almost always use prime lenses. For events, I tend to  
 pick one focal length and stay with that for the whole event. Indoor  
 parties have never been a problem with either a normal or a medium- 
 wide lens (35mm or 21mm on the *ist DS works great.
 
 I find the changes in coverage and resulting different perspectives  
 when using a zoom distracting in a set of event pictures. Big  
 ceremonies like a graduation, I'd prefer a wide normal prime on one  
 body and something like a 50-200 on a second body, however, because  
 of the huge range of differences in distance from the subject.
 
 G
 
 On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a  
  zoom. At any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference  
  between a shot taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA  
  16-45/4. I used the latter at the reception of the wedding I  
  recently shot. It was perfect, and I needed a variety of focal  
  lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 on one camera and  
  the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot available light  
  in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I used  
  the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction.  
  Although I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of  
  photography, I now consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A  
  single focal length at a reception could exclude shots like large  
  tables and even big groups.
 
 
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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Personally, I almost always use prime lenses. For events, I tend to  
pick one focal length and stay with that for the whole event. Indoor  
parties have never been a problem with either a normal or a medium- 
wide lens (35mm or 21mm on the *ist DS works great.

I find the changes in coverage and resulting different perspectives  
when using a zoom distracting in a set of event pictures. Big  
ceremonies like a graduation, I'd prefer a wide normal prime on one  
body and something like a 50-200 on a second body, however, because  
of the huge range of differences in distance from the subject.

G

On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a  
 zoom. At any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference  
 between a shot taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA  
 16-45/4. I used the latter at the reception of the wedding I  
 recently shot. It was perfect, and I needed a variety of focal  
 lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 on one camera and  
 the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot available light  
 in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I used  
 the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction.  
 Although I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of  
 photography, I now consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A  
 single focal length at a reception could exclude shots like large  
 tables and even big groups.


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Re: Like a cinnamon crust

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty Subject: Re: Like a cinnamon crust


 On 31/1/07, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20070128164314
 
 The bokeh on that lens gives me the willies.

He's oversharpening. It buggers up bokeh.

William Robb

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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation


 I really appreciate all of the advice I've received, and I certainly
 didn't mean to start an argument.  Discussion, even with
 disagreements, is good, though.  My initial intention was to shoot the
 wedding with the K100D, the kit lens, and a telephoto zoom.  Not
 ideal, I know, but I'm not professing any ability at this kind of
 thing.  I'm also not going to invest in new lenses to shoot a wedding
 for free.  That will have to wait until I decide if this is a field I
 want to try to make some money in.

 In addition to the digital rig, I had planned to bring along the MX
 with a couple of primes and some Neopan 1600 for a little contrast to
 the color images.  And one other film body, just in case I have
 problems with the digital rig.

 Most of my shooting these days involves chasing two little girls
 around, and I'm in a fast action mode.  The zoom lenses tend to be
 ideal for this.  On the other hand, I've always preferred shooting
 with primes, but I'm not good enough for the primes to offer any
 sharpness advantage when shooting without a tripod.  I'm not fast
 enough to keep up with the kids, either.  So I rarely use a prime lens
 anymore.

 I read a magazine article a while back about the wedding
 photographer's lens kit.  It was an older article from the 70s or 80s,
 which discussed Nikon's recommendations.  The lenses were a 35, 50,
 and an 85 or 105 (I think).  Imagine showing up to a wedding these
 days with a couple of old manual cameras and a few primes!  It seems
 like most photogs I read about are carrying the latest and greatest
 digital rigs with IS lenses, a laptop, at least one assistant, a
 myriad of lights, and if they have a film camera at all it's an F5 or
 a Leica.  Who the hell can afford to do weddings like this?  On the
 contrary, most of the wedding photographers I actually see are either
 shooting with medium format or a Fuji digital body, and working their
 butts off because their assistant didn't show up or they didn't have
 one in the first place.

 I have a little time to prepare, and I may just decide to suck up the
 expense and shoot the whole thing on film.

 Thanks again, and keep it coming!

Don't worry about me and Paul arguing, we're just a couple of old bears 
mooing at each other from our mountaintops.
If you are comfortable with zooms, by all means use them, but consider that 
you are giving up valuable fill light due to their slow speed compared to a 
prime, and if the zoom is variable aperture, your fill exposures may also 
vary as you zoom.
The photographers you read about are the ones with enough time on their 
hands to write about themselves. The majority are too busy trying to put 
groceries in the fridge to be bothered.
At this point, I don't think I'd bother with 35mm film, except as a last 
resort back-up. OTOH, if you can shoot the bridal and group portraits on 
medium format, you will notice a difference in quality, especially the 
larger groups, where there may not be enough pixels to resolve facial 
details sufficiently off the 6mp sensor.
Ask Cesár to loan you his 6x7 and tell him I said you could borrow a few 
lenses.
Later in my wedding career, I settled on 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm, with the 
24 seeing almost no use, except for inside the limo and sometimes for 
overviews of the church if it was a nice one. I noted that I seemed to be 
missing shots that I would have gotten prior to trying to use more lenses 
becuase I had the wrong lens on the camera at the wrong time.
If you only have the one focal length, and are familiar with it, you tend to 
think in terms of what that lens can do for you, and adjust the way you do 
things accordingly. With a fast prime, you can do things you just can't do 
with a zoom.
My problem with zooms was (still is) slow maximum apertures which made 
focusing difficult in dimly lit churches, killed the fill light, and had 
wonky barrel distortions that made the architecture look funny. The barrel 
distortion thing shouldn't be a problem now, I suspect they have those 
things ironed out, but zooms are still slower lenses than primes, which will 
impede focusing and fill flash.

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Re: New T/C's?

2007-01-31 Thread Patrick Genovese
Yes it would be like carting a howitzer around but damn useful i used
the sigma 120-300 on a n...n D200 and its a nice combo and very nice
zoom range for shooting sports with 1.5x focal length crop.

I'm willing to pay the weight penalty for the functionality.  I like
compact gear but i;m not one to sacrifice all on the altar of
compactness.

Regards

Patrick


On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you know how heavy a DFA 120-300 f2.8 would be?  I'd end up never
 taking it with me.

 I'd be really happy with a sharp 250mm f4 on a K10D.


 --
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 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


 Patrick Genovese wrote:
  You know what would be really really really nice a pentax 135-400
  f/4.5 it would make a great pair with the upcoming 50-135 f/2.8...
  the 60-250 is a bit of a compromise ...had it been a 120-300 or maybe
  350 it would be a much better fit in Pentax' lens line. a 120-300
  f/2.8 would be lovely especially if it were a DFA* ie you could use it
  on film as welll.. Ahem!! Wake up patrick.. stop dreaming!
 
  Regards
 
  Patrick
 
  On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Patrick,
 
  I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm looking for a good
  200mm+ zoom.  I've always thought the 70-200 f2.8 was too heavy and not
  quite long enough.  I've seen some really nice pictures from the Sigma
  100-300, but I've seen some with very annoying bokeh too that have put
  me off a little (I've noticed this with a few Sigma lenses).
 
  Then I heard of the DA*60-250 and I thought it sounded just right.
  Now I have to sit and wait for it to be available - and then for it to
  be available in Australia.  I'm hoping for some good 10MP examples with
  it before I can get my hands on it to prove that it's good.  A DA* lens
  should be very good shouldn't it?  Has Pentax made any duds in their
  high end lenses?
 
  --
   Leon
 
  http://www.bluering.org.au
  http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
 
 
  Patrick Genovese wrote:
  Thanks for the info... I was hoping that someone would trash at least
  one of the combos making my decision easier :-)   The problem with
  Malta is that you have to buy almost on faith... There is no way i'm
  going to be able to try out a 70-200 f/2.8 or a 100-300.. unless I go
  abroad.
 
  Regards
 
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Re: Another k10D problem or just an old one?

2007-01-31 Thread Tom C
Mark!

David Weis wrote:

Wow, I thought people on this list could curb the sarcasm and help a
person. 



Tom C.








From: David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Another k10D problem or just an old one?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 21:32:12 -0500

Paul Stenquist wrote:
  He's shooting jpegs on bright setting and underexposing by two to
  three stops. How can you conclude it's not normal?

Wow, I thought people on this list could curb the sarcasm and help a
person.  Is that beyond everyone these days?

I said this problem showed up on RAW photos as well.

The problem is evident on picture number 3, which is clearly not
underexposed.

This problem showed up on non-white subjects.

What am I not saying correctly?

I just wanted to know if it is a normal for this camera to do this under
such conditions, that is all I wanted to know. I wasn't calling it a bad
camera or anything else.  Geez.

Dave





  Paul
  On Jan 30, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:
 
  On 31/01/07, David Weiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So, is this just the infamous banding problem magnified a bit?
  No it's not banding but neither is it normal nor should it have to be
  tolerated. I would suggest that you pose the question to Pentax and
  send links to select images, ask them how to remedy the problem and if
  they can't solve it then have your camera swapped for a new one.
 
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Pentax users in Phila area

2007-01-31 Thread J
Are there any Pentax users in the Philadelphia area that have a K10d 
or an Ist D that I could talk with and maybe see the cameras...As 
list members know from my last posts, that I have a lot of high end 
Pentax glass and I am still not sure which way to go.I also have 
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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If I were taking both film and digital SLRs along, the film camera  
would be a medium format camera. I don't think the 35mm film images  
would not be up to snuff against the DSLR images, and I know for me  
that it would take me forever to render them into prints. All my BW  
work is rendered from the DSLRs these days.

I continue to be drawn to the Pentax 645 kit, I love the camera. But  
the reality is that I still haven't finished shooting the fifth roll  
of film I started in December and haven't even finished scanning a  
full roll out of the four I shot. Meanwhile, I've completed work on  
four sets of photos taken after January 1st, taken with the K10D, and  
am looking for places to exhibit them... That speaks volumes for me.

Godfrey

On Jan 31, 2007, at 7:46 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 ... In addition to the digital rig, I had planned to bring along  
 the MX
 with a couple of primes and some Neopan 1600 for a little contrast to
 the color images.  And one other film body, just in case I have
 problems with the digital rig. ...


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RE: PESO[s] BW Conversions...

2007-01-31 Thread Tom C
I like the Petulant Angels shot, P.J.



Tom C.



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Subject: PESO[s] BW Conversions...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:07:37 -0500

I've come to the conclusion that the software that Mark Roberts has a
link on his web site to, (the Photoshop plug in that is), for BW
conversion is just great.  I've got a few new conversions.  A couple
from a year or two ago and another shot from the Essex Steam Museum,
(Disabled).

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_petulantangels.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_madcongchu.html

http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_steamdetail.html

Equipment:
Pentax *istD or Ds/w Pentax lenses.

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Re:Photoshop Lightroom 1.0 sale and shipping date

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Post
Support and Product of Adobe CS2 is the same in the retail and academic 
versions.  The only difference is the box, and even then I seem to 
recall it is just a sticker that says Academic.  I would bet the serial 
numbers are on a list that let's Adobe know it is an academic version. 


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Re: Pentax TC Question

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Post
I thought the rule of thumb was the x-L teleconverter was recommended 
for any long lens that could fit the added depth. 

I use the 1.4x-L.  I have never used (and do not own) a x-s series 
teleconverter so I can't give you a first hand comparison.

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Re: New T/C's?

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There must be a whole lot more people shooting birds and cats at a  
distance than I do, or who have incredibly stable hands. I find even  
using 135-200mm takes a lot of concentration and effort to hold still  
enough, even with SR, to satisfy my desire for sharpness, and I'm  
usually backing away even with the 70mm lens.

135-400 and 120-300 seem absurdly long unless you're shooting  
motorsports on closed circuits, an air show or wildlife on the  
African veldt. The DA*60-250/4 seems the longest lens I could  
possibly be interested in.

Godfrey


On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote:

 Yes it would be like carting a howitzer around but damn useful i used
 the sigma 120-300 on a n...n D200 and its a nice combo and very nice
 zoom range for shooting sports with 1.5x focal length crop.

 I'm willing to pay the weight penalty for the functionality.  I like
 compact gear but i;m not one to sacrifice all on the altar of
 compactness.

 Regards

 Patrick


 On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you know how heavy a DFA 120-300 f2.8 would be?  I'd end up never
 taking it with me.

 I'd be really happy with a sharp 250mm f4 on a K10D.


 --
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 http://www.bluering.org.au
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


 Patrick Genovese wrote:
 You know what would be really really really nice a pentax 135-400
 f/4.5 it would make a great pair with the upcoming 50-135 f/2.8...
 the 60-250 is a bit of a compromise ...had it been a 120-300 or  
 maybe
 350 it would be a much better fit in Pentax' lens line. a 120-300
 f/2.8 would be lovely especially if it were a DFA* ie you could  
 use it
 on film as welll.. Ahem!! Wake up patrick.. stop dreaming!

 Regards

 Patrick

 On 1/31/07, Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Patrick,

 I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm looking for  
 a good
 200mm+ zoom.  I've always thought the 70-200 f2.8 was too heavy  
 and not
 quite long enough.  I've seen some really nice pictures from the  
 Sigma
 100-300, but I've seen some with very annoying bokeh too that  
 have put
 me off a little (I've noticed this with a few Sigma lenses).

 Then I heard of the DA*60-250 and I thought it sounded just  
 right.
 Now I have to sit and wait for it to be available - and then for  
 it to
 be available in Australia.  I'm hoping for some good 10MP  
 examples with
 it before I can get my hands on it to prove that it's good.  A  
 DA* lens
 should be very good shouldn't it?  Has Pentax made any duds in  
 their
 high end lenses?

 --
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 http://www.bluering.org.au
 http://www.bluering.org.au/leon


 Patrick Genovese wrote:
 Thanks for the info... I was hoping that someone would trash at  
 least
 one of the combos making my decision easier :-)   The problem with
 Malta is that you have to buy almost on faith... There is no  
 way i'm
 going to be able to try out a 70-200 f/2.8 or a 100-300..  
 unless I go
 abroad.

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Re: PESO: Wind Turbines

2007-01-31 Thread Igor Roshchin


Digital Image Studio wrote:

 Current technology is providing upwards of 4MW per turbine, so a farm
 of 20 turbines can produce in the order of 800MW or about half to a
 one third the size of an average coal fired power plant (in
 Australia).

Sorry, Rob, for nit-picking, b ut 4 MW * 20 = 80 MW.
So, you are an order of magnitude off.

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RE: what do I need to do RAW file processing with the istDS?

2007-01-31 Thread J. C. O'Connell
When you say you have these on the SD card in the camera,
does this mean you use these in-camera somehow?
I am confused.
jco
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J. C. O,

 hi, thanks, I have V2.4 already so I guess I am good on that. Im still

 not clear on Pentax photolab and browser though. Are you saying I will

 want or need to get these latest versions or are they all just junk 
 not worth the effort?

as many others I found ACR to be superior over any other RAW converter 
I've tried so far. However I have Pentax utilities stored on a SD card 
right inside my ist-Ds just in case as they occupy roughly the space 
of 2 RAW images (PC version) and the conversions are usually very good 
(version 3 based on SilkyPix) and certainly better than in-camera JPEGs.

Actually the only major thing ACR seems to do consistently better is 
taming moire/aliasing artefacts.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - The End Revisited - Art Show

2007-01-31 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/31/2007 7:07:49 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I sniffed around to find the  original of The End. The new look is a lot
better.  
ReCongratulation.


Tim
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Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Talk about frankencameras!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555

Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a 
250 on full frame :)


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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark, I think it has to be out-frank'ed ;-). Or out-franken'ed ;-).


Mark Roberts wrote:
 Talk about frankencameras!
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555
 
 Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a 
 250 on full frame :)
 
 


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Pentax to the rescue

2007-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
I've had a car crash this morning. The other guy just drove to the red 
light to my right in such a way that I could only brake and eventually 
we've hit each other. I'm completely uninjured. Just a scratch on my 
right knee from the car key or dashboard.

I've had my camera with me and later I took the pictures of the car, 
which I shall not publish ;-).

I am fine, though I am definitely going to have a lesson taught to me in 
few days to come.

Boris

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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/31/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Talk about frankencameras!
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555

 Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a
 250 on full frame :)

Holy cow!  For some strange reason, the bastard child of two Pentax
cameras doesn't bother me nearly as much as what Cotty does.


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Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have to concur.  I personally like primes better, but - when I was
shooting 67II's for weddings, all I had were primes.  It was very
difficult at times to get the shots needed and timing of things -
having to switch lenses so often.

On digital for weddings I now shoot an A 35-105/3.5, DA 16-45/4 and A
70-210/4.  It has made things much easier and coverage is a better
with less work.

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:39:27 AM, you wrote:

pcn I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding
pcn without a zoom. At any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible
pcn difference between a shot taken with the FA35/2 and one taken
pcn with the DA 16-45/4. I used the latter at the reception of the
pcn wedding I recently shot. It was perfect, and I needed a variety
pcn of focal lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 on one
pcn camera and the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot
pcn available light in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses
pcn worked well. I used the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have
pcn shake reduction. Although I shot excluisively with primes for my
pcn first 25 years of photography, I now consider zooms indispensible
pcn and quite good. A single focal length at a reception could
pcn exclude shots like large tables and even big groups.
pcn Paul
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pcn From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice
 solicitation
 
 
  Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally, I'd
  recommend just a standard lens. It'll keep you from being caught flat
  footed, by having a lens off the camera when something happens, or from
  wedging a lens when trying to change it quickly.
 
  I can do that.  By standard lens I'm assuming you mean a 28-80 zoom
  or something similar.  Or did you mean a 50?  I'm not sure I could do
  an entire wedding with a 50.  Some might be able to, but I doubt I
  could make it look good.
 
 I tend to treat zooms like as if they have leprosy. I've made a couple of
 exeptions in the recent past to get focal lengths that I want, but there are
 too many compromises in zoom lensrs to allow me to love them.
 If you are shooting digital, something in the 28-35mm range should be your
 do everything lens, perhaps add something longer to do individual portraits
 with. The 50mm focal length is a tad short, but very workable as a portrait
 length lens on digital.
 If you are going to insist on using a zoom, try for one that has a fixed
 aperture to keep your flash shots looking the same from FL to FL
 
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Re: Pentax users in Phila area

2007-01-31 Thread Rick Womer
I live a mile from Penn.  Where are you?

Rick

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 or an Ist D that I could talk with and maybe see the
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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Talk about frankencameras!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555

Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a 
250 on full frame :)

LOL

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Re: The K10D flash problem that isn't (well not really)

2007-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Jan,

For product type shots a setup like you show would work well.  I used
to have 3 AF360FGZ's on stands triggered wirelessly from the popup
flash.  I was doing more studio type stuff and just found that the
ouput was inadequate to handle the DOF that I wanted on certain shots.

So yes, an argument can be made for the wireless capability being
useful in certain circumstances.  Just not mine.

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Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:30:41 AM, you wrote:

JvW On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:10:22 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Sounds about like me.  If you are going to use a flash, use a REAL
flash.  On all my cameras from way back that had a pop up flash, I
think I have used it perhaps 5 or 6 times in all.  It is a stop gap
for the few times I am unprepared and am willing to compromise the
photo.

JvW Agree mostly, however with the new firmware it can trigger
JvW your other flashes. I am using it now with a 360FGZ and 540FGZ
JvW positioned roughly on the sides, and the popup flash to
JvW control them and provide some fill-in at the front ...

JvW Works nicely, on the istD as well as the K10D, for an example see:

JvWhttp://www.dfsee.com/gallery/index.php?id=1282

JvW Showing the O-ME53 eye-piece on the K10D ...

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Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Thibouille
VERY interesting report, thanks Godfrey !

2007/1/31, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It's difficult to judge the performance of the v1.0 release version
 by running the v4.1 beta release. In addition, the Windows version in
 v4.1 beta isn't as well tuned as the Mac OS X version ... the latter
 had about a year's more development/optimization time when the
 Windows version was released and they haven't posted more than one
 Public Beta version update for the Windows product, while there were
 at least three for the Mac OS X version. I suspect they've been
 tuning and testing the Windows version rather a lot more than is
 visible with the public beta.

 There is far greater variability in quality and performance between
 hardware platforms in the Windows marketplace compared to the Mac OS
 X marketplace.

 I try to keep at least 20-30% free space on my working system's boot
 drive for best performance. That's what all the backup data drives
 are for. ;-) Both Windows XP and Mac OS X are virtual memory OS
 systems and do a lot of back and forth to the drives when using
 large, complex image processing applications. Total RAM, speed of the
 drives and free space all combine to influence performance in big ways.

 Just for reference with Lightroom v4.1 Beta ...

 All my systems are running Mac OS X v10.4.8.

 - Running on a PowerMac G5 2.0Ghz DP with 3G RAM and a 500Gbyte drive
 with 200Gbyte free space.

 I've been using Lightroom v4.1 beta for two months on a regular
 basis. Last import was 8500 DNG files, imported by reference. That
 took about 45 minutes, complete. Total number of files in the Library
 now is around 28,000. I've seen no slowdowns and performance
 switching image files is pretty snappy, all controls operate smoothly
 and without hesitation.

 - Running on a Mac Book with 2.0Ghz Intel dual core and 2G RAM, 60G
 drive with 30G free space:

 With 100 files on board, performance seems very similar to the Power
 Mac G5 above. This isn't my machine so I can only test on it
 occasionally.

 - Running on a PowerBook G4 1.67Ghz with 1.5G RAM and an 80Gbyte
 drive with 20Gbyte free space:

 Imported 250 DNG files by reference, took about 10 minutes. Total in
 the Library now comes to about 380 files. Performance with the
 trackpad is a little unresponsive ... I find it easier and more
 precise to use the arrow keys in the Develop module. No particular
 slowdowns, but you can definitely see that the single processor/older
 chip configuration leaves a bit to be desired. The same differential
 in performance is easily visible when running Photoshop CS2+Bridge
 +Camera Raw.

 Godfrey



 On Jan 30, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Thibouille wrote:

  Yes I can second that.
  On my old PC (my laptop is modern but not hte other PC) which is
  AthlonXP 2GHz, 768 RAM etc... Lightroom is VERY slow. To the point
  that when it begins to rebuild its thumbnail database (every program
  start.. don't ask me why it acts like that) my computer is simply
  unusable.
 
  My laoptop being dual core, it is usable, slower due to disc access,
  but usable. However I wouldn't want a final product to behave as the
  beta does, for sure.
 
  2007/1/31, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I had similar experiences and from my reading on the boards, many
  people have the same problems.  I know that if I would load the
  program and walk away for about 20 minutes, it would cache things and
  I don't know what else, but would run at a reasonable speed after
  that
  - not blazingly fast, but tolerable.  Sorry to offer no help, but I
  can sympathize with your experience.  The product itself is rather
  slick and quite capable.  I may look again when it is released, but I
  finally gave up on the beta due to performance.
 
  --
  Bruce
 
 
  Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 9:21:09 PM, you wrote:
 
  BL I send my questions and concerns ;-).
 
  BL Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is
  all my K10D
  BL stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not
  64 bit)
  BL and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on
  board. Not
  BL the fastest, but not a slouch either.
 
  BL Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open
  another
  BL image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite
  some time.
  BL Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
  BL correction seem to be very unresponsive...
 
  BL What is it I am doing wrong?


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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Cotty
On 31/1/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Holy cow!  For some strange reason, the bastard child of two Pentax
cameras doesn't bother me nearly as much as what Cotty does.

I'm bringing my Dremel to GFM

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RE: Pentax to the rescue

2007-01-31 Thread Tom C
Glad you're not hurt Boris!



Tom C.



From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Pentax to the rescue
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:53:35 +0200

I've had a car crash this morning. The other guy just drove to the red
light to my right in such a way that I could only brake and eventually
we've hit each other. I'm completely uninjured. Just a scratch on my
right knee from the car key or dashboard.

I've had my camera with me and later I took the pictures of the car,
which I shall not publish ;-).

I am fine, though I am definitely going to have a lesson taught to me in
few days to come.

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Re: PESO - Snowblind

2007-01-31 Thread Tom C
Thanks Ann.



Tom C.


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Tom C wrote:

 Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top.
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907
 
 
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love it , Tom

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Re: Speaking of Lightroom and BW ...

2007-01-31 Thread Boris Liberman
Yes, I did couple conversions that I find very reasonable.


Thibouille wrote:
 Anybody tried/knows a way of converting to BW using only lightroom
 with good results ?
 


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RE: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I used to use an excellent 28-85mm zoom for full frame 35mm
film and that covered about 95% or more of what I needed and quickly.
I always carried a 24mm and a 135mm just in case but hardly
ever needed them. With a wedding you are really pressed to
work fast, and there is no time to be changing lenses, repositioning
the camera, or repositioning the people. I would never attempt
to do it with multiple primes or zooms unless I used multiple bodies.
Get the very best supernormal zoom you can find and just go with that.
jco

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I have to concur.  I personally like primes better, but - when I was
shooting 67II's for weddings, all I had were primes.  It was very
difficult at times to get the shots needed and timing of things - having
to switch lenses so often.

On digital for weddings I now shoot an A 35-105/3.5, DA 16-45/4 and A
70-210/4.  It has made things much easier and coverage is a better with
less work.

-- 
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Wednesday, January 31, 2007, 6:39:27 AM, you wrote:

pcn I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a 
pcn zoom. At any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference 
pcn between a shot taken with the FA35/2 and one taken with the DA 
pcn 16-45/4. I used the latter at the reception of the wedding I 
pcn recently shot. It was perfect, and I needed a variety of focal 
pcn lengths. At the ceremony, I used the DA 16-45/4 on one camera and 
pcn the DA 50-200/4.5-5.6 on the other. I had to shoot available light 
pcn in this venue (a courtroom), and both lenses worked well. I used 
pcn the longer one on the K10D so that I'd have shake reduction. 
pcn Although I shot excluisively with primes for my first 25 years of 
pcn photography, I now consider zooms indispensible and quite good. A 
pcn single focal length at a reception could exclude shots like large 
pcn tables and even big groups. Paul
pcn  -- Original message --
pcn From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice
 solicitation
 
 
  Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. 
  Personally, I'd recommend just a standard lens. It'll keep you 
  from being caught flat footed, by having a lens off the camera 
  when something happens, or from wedging a lens when trying to 
  change it quickly.
 
  I can do that.  By standard lens I'm assuming you mean a 28-80 
  zoom or something similar.  Or did you mean a 50?  I'm not sure I 
  could do an entire wedding with a 50.  Some might be able to, but I

  doubt I could make it look good.
 
 I tend to treat zooms like as if they have leprosy. I've made a 
 couple of exeptions in the recent past to get focal lengths that I 
 want, but there are too many compromises in zoom lensrs to allow me 
 to love them. If you are shooting digital, something in the 28-35mm 
 range should be your do everything lens, perhaps add something longer

 to do individual portraits with. The 50mm focal length is a tad 
 short, but very workable as a portrait length lens on digital. If you

 are going to insist on using a zoom, try for one that has a fixed 
 aperture to keep your flash shots looking the same from FL to FL
 
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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
Poor misguided fool. Doesn't he realize that he can accomplish the same thing 
by cropping an image from a larger sensor? 
 -- Original message --
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 Talk about frankencameras!
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555
 
 Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a 
 250 on full frame :)
 
 
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PESO: 50's Creamer

2007-01-31 Thread Jack Davis
Sorting through some secondary slide storage, I came across this and
found that I still consider some of its shapes pleasing.
Guess it doesn't matter where you find them.

Jack

Comments welcome!

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RE: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

2007-01-31 Thread Tim Øsleby
Now I've freed more HD space. I'm not 100% sure, but my impression is that
it is faster. I'll keep you posted if something significant happenes.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thibouille
Sent: 31. januar 2007 11:56
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

This is interesting.
BTW one should  *always* have 5 -10% free space on any disk drive. It
really helps performance (this comment is very general, not Lightroom
related).

2007/1/31, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm afraid I can't provide you with a good answer.
 At first my Lightroom had acceptable performance, but it has gradually
been
 slowing down. I don't think it is because of increased numbers of files
 (that's what I experienced with RSP), because I haven't photographed much
 lately. I have tweaked my PC to make it faster, searched for spyware
(found
 a lot), and done a few other tricks. Still slow.

 The only thing I have found is that the size of free HD space matters.
I've
 freed some, and it helps, but not a lot. After this I've got 10% free
space.

 Now I'm waiting for the final version to solve the problem. If it doesn't,
 then I don't really know. Could by more ram, but that's pretty expensive
for
 a lap top.


 Tim
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 Sent: 31. januar 2007 06:21
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: To you, Adobe LightRoom enthusiasts

 I send my questions and concerns ;-).

 Folks, I've imported about 350 images to LR beta 4. This is all my K10D
 stuff that I shot so far. My PC at home is running Win XP (not 64 bit)
 and hardware is Athlon 64 at rated 2800+ with 1.5 GB RAM on board. Not
 the fastest, but not a slouch either.

 Now, if I have an image in the Develop pane and try to open another
 image it takes ages. I see CPU jumpin' up to 100% for quite some time.
 Also some of the more subtle adjustments such as individual color
 correction seem to be very unresponsive...

 What is it I am doing wrong?

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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Peter Jordan
I was tempted to look at my calendar to see if it was April 1st. For that 
thing to function would require a huge amount of work.

Peter

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 Poor misguided fool. Doesn't he realize that he can accomplish the same 
 thing by cropping an image from a larger sensor?
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 Talk about frankencameras!
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555

 Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a
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My K10D arrived

2007-01-31 Thread Jens Bladt
Comming home from work, rather late (7 PM), I checked the post office track
and trace facility to see how my K10D shipment was doing. It was said to
have been shiped from the Danish Pentax importer yesterday: My new camera
had arrived in Copenhagen (40 km away) very late last night. At 2 AM this
morning, in fact.

One hour later, I heard someone knocking at my door!
A Danish postman, dressed in the mandatory red jacket, was holding a
cardboard box in his hand:
My K10D had arrived!
Woo-hoo!

O put in the battery, and turned it on. Yes - the battery was already
charged!
I had to try shooting at once.
I put in a 2 GB SD card, and set the home town to Amsterdam (Copenhagen
doesn't show up) and put on my FA* 1.8/77mm Limited.
I had to try the SR, so I turned it on.
I fetched a small china statuette and took a three shots.

I knew the camera had a quick-menu, much like that of the *ist DL. But this
one is even nicer.
I discoverred, that if I change the WB setting while looking at the shot, I
just took, the LCD will change colours accordingly.
WOW ! Brilliant. Well done! I hope everything goes on like this!

A true Pentax - very user friendly.
This camera has great ergonomics as well.
I did not get the battery grip (I have ordered one, though). I know that
it's very easy and convenient  to hold and handle.
I can't wait to do some serious shoting soon.

Here's the very first three K10D shots:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594510893882/show/

Regards
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Re: Pentax users in Phila area

2007-01-31 Thread J
I am in Bucks county, just north of Philadelphia

At 12:34 PM 1/31/07, you wrote:
I live a mile from Penn.  Where are you?

Rick

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  list members know from my last posts, that I have a
  lot of high end
  Pentax glass and I am still not sure which way to
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February 2007 PUG is open a bit early

2007-01-31 Thread AvK
Hi folks,
 
the February PUG is open.
 
It can be viewed on http://pug.komkon.org

Have Fun. 
 
 
Best 
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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote:

For some strange reason, the bastard child of two Pentax
cameras doesn't bother me nearly as much as what Cotty does.

HAR! 
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the wait gets worse

2007-01-31 Thread cbwaters
Let me paint a picture of my last two days.
The K10 is scheduled to be delivered today.
Yesterday, #2 kid has a fever and cough so she's not going to school.  It's 
easier for me to have the day off, so I'm home all day.
I have about fifteen hours of the Daytona 24hr sportscar race in my Tivo, 
and I'm still working through this French countryside in my WWII computer 
game so I've got stuff to do.
I check the UPS tracking site about 350 times.  The box takes 12 hours to 
get from Cametta in New York to Philadelphia.  Then it lands in South 
Carolina around dinner time.  No change at bed-time... hmmm

Got up this morning and no change.  the box is still in SC.  Not good.
I check the UPS site 300 more times.
Lunchtime comes and I can either go have BBQ with Brian (a local BMW friend) 
or stay home in case the UPS guy comes.  I risk it.  The BBQ is good.
After lunch and the box is still in SC.  No way it's delivered today now and 
I have two important meetings tomorrow.  The UPS guy surely won't leave 
$1200 boxes on my porch tomorrow will he?  Woe is me.
It gets worse.


UPS guy turns up with the camera.


Now it's HERE but I can't USE it because the battery needs charging.

I'm going out to buy a card reader and pick up the kids.  Maybe it's done 
when I get home...  I miss the AA *ist D now.  But just a little.

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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-01-31 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Boris Liberman wrote:

 I've had a car crash this morning.

Oh dear. Pleased you are well.

Kostas

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Re: Pentax to the rescue

2007-01-31 Thread Patrick Genovese
Hi Boris,

Glad to hear you're ok ..

Sorry to hear about your incident hope things work out ok in the end...

Regards

Patrick

On 1/31/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had a car crash this morning. The other guy just drove to the red
 light to my right in such a way that I could only brake and eventually
 we've hit each other. I'm completely uninjured. Just a scratch on my
 right knee from the car key or dashboard.

 I've had my camera with me and later I took the pictures of the car,
 which I shall not publish ;-).

 I am fine, though I am definitely going to have a lesson taught to me in
 few days to come.

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RE: My K10D arrived

2007-01-31 Thread Jens Bladt
..And Shake reduction works great (77mm and 1/10sec. hand held:

SR OFF   http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/375804730/ 
SR ON http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/375804808/

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Re: PESO: Wind Turbines

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Digital Image Studio wrote:

  Current technology is providing upwards of 4MW per turbine, so a farm
  of 20 turbines can produce in the order of 800MW or about half to a
  one third the size of an average coal fired power plant (in
  Australia).

 Sorry, Rob, for nit-picking, b ut 4 MW * 20 = 80 MW.
 So, you are an order of magnitude off.

Thanks, I certainly am, never did get those 10x tables.

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RE: My K10D arrived

2007-01-31 Thread Jens Bladt
...BTW:
When Photoshop CS opens the files, they turn from lanscape to portrait mode
to landscape mode (these portrait shots did) automatically!
Is this magic or does the camera know which side was up?


...
..And Shake reduction works great (77mm and 1/10sec. hand held:

SR OFF   http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/375804730/
SR ON http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/375804808/

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Re: February 2007 PUG is open a bit early

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks once again for the gallery, Adelheid.
I like Rick Womar's literal yet very well done interpretation of the theme, 
Alastair Robertson's fishermen and Jaime Lahuerta's nicely composed overhead 
shot of two figures on a plaza. Good gallery.
Paul
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Re: Out-Cotty'd

2007-01-31 Thread Igor Roshchin


I think you are not correct here.
If you crop the image from a larger (in size, not in number of pixels!)
sensor, you will get an image with smaller number of pixels compared
to the one you get from the smaller sensor with a comparable total number
of pixels.
(A20 has a 10 MP sensor).

A20 has a  5.76 mm x 4.29 mm sensor.
K10D has a 23.5 x 15.7 mm sensor.
Thus, if I am not making a mistake in my estimate, the same area of the K10D
sensor as that of the A20 sensor will have only ~ 10MP / 15 ~ 0.67 MP.

I believe that with all other parameters equal, an image from a small
10MP sensor would have a better quality then an image interpolated from
 1MP cropped from a large 10MP DSLR sensor.

Igor

pnstenquist wrote:
 Poor misguided fool. Doesn't he realize that he can accomplish the same 
 thing by cropping an image from a larger sensor? 
  -- Original message --
 From: Mark Roberts msroberts01 at ysu.edu
  Talk about frankencameras!
  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21862555
  
  Apparently you get a 5x crop factor so your 50mm lens has the FOV of a 
  250 on full frame :)

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Re: My K10D arrived

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...BTW:
 When Photoshop CS opens the files, they turn from lanscape to portrait mode
 to landscape mode (these portrait shots did) automatically!
 Is this magic or does the camera know which side was up?

Like the vast majority of PS cameras that have been available for
years now we too have this top end technology available in our DSLRs
;-)

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OT: Man or mouse? (RE: Why small camera shops are useful

2007-01-31 Thread Bob W
I had my first experience of Vista earlier. Out of curiosity I pointed
my copy of XP Pro running IE7 at the Vista site which tells you
whether or not your machine is man enough to run it. 

My mouse cursor immediately disappeared, and I had to reboot the
machine to get it back.

Good one, Bill.

Meanwhile, at work we are already thinking of upgrading over 40,000
desktops.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of K.Takeshita
 Sent: 31 January 2007 15:37
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 Subject: Re: Why small camera shops are useful
 
 On 1/31/07 10:02 AM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That's likely to be worth exactly what you paid for it. :-)
  
  
  Probably but I've been missing a few OS X features that 
 Vista has stolen.
 
 Well, see this but click on vote results of Vista: Now or never
:-).
 
 http://news.com.com/Vista+steals+the+show/2100-1016_3-6154632.html
 
 Ken (naughty PC irritant)
 
 
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