Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread Thibouille
If there's no external flash used, the on-camera flash compensation
WILL change integrated flash output on my K10D.

If an external flash is used as well as the integrated flash: not sure
about FEC but contrast control works well :)

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Manual flash control on the popup is not available on any Pentax DSLR.
 No flash control is available with non-A lenses (Every firing is full
 power).

 -Adam

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do any of the Pentax DSLRs have manual power control
 of the flash, with the istDS I sometimes get too much
 light on manual, would be nice if I could lower the power.
 as it is I have to resort to taping over the bulb sometimes.
 jco


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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread Brian Walters
God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.


Cheers

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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:59:32 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 We'll have to wait til Wednesday - 
 
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RE: PESO: selfportraits

2008-06-03 Thread Bob W
 
 thx. i'm not sure, but overhere, if you have underwear, you're not
 officially nude :)
 

Bob Carlos Clarke was working with a new model who didn't want to go
completely nude. I won't take my knickers off she insisted. OK,
replied BCC, you can wear them round your ankles.

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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I still have a typewriter, I can't remember last time I put paper in it, 
and I don't know where I can get ribbons for it, and the old one is 
probably completely dried out, but I still have one, because you never 
know...

keith_w wrote:
 Jack Davis wrote:
   
 I included this negative with a couple of drug store scans I had recently 
 done. My thought was to offer them to Pentax, but then I recalled that this 
 image was shot with a point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such). Offering 
 it here as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.

 All comments welcome.

 Jack

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=310
 

 No computer, but a typewriter?

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Re: OT: Panasonic L1

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Mike Hamilton wrote:
   
 Hey all,
I've been interested in the Panasonic L1 since it was released, and  
 I'm now considering purchasing one for $400 (without the legendary  
 Leica kit lens).  What are the limitations of using K-mount lenses on  
 this body?  
 
 The same as using a Pre A lens on any Pentax Digital mount body.

   
 As far as I'm aware, they need an aperture ring (so my  
 FA20-35 would work, but the DA21 would not).  How is metering via  
 adapter?  
 
 Stop down...
   
 If I could get the Leica 14-50 2.8-3.5  with it for $800, I  
 might go for that...
   
 
 You could look into inexpensive Olympus lenses...
   
 Any significant issues that you've come across?  I'm planning to use  
 this body to complement my K10D.  Perhaps I'd eventually get the  
 Olympus 25/2.8.

 
That should be K10 not K20 but hey if you're going to spend $800 for a new 
incompaible system, you might as well go all the way and get a K20 it's only a 
coupler hundred more...

 If you're looking for a smaller lighter backup camera and want to use 
 the same lenses as your K20D I'd suggest the K200D, (that is if you 
 really need 10mp).  The L1 uses in lens image stabilization and doesn't 
 support sensor image stablization, so if that's not important for you 
 and you can get by with only 6mp in your backup I think you'd be better 
 off with a *ist-Ds.  They're relatively cheep used these days.  The L1 
 just doesn't strike me as the most rational choice. 
   
 Thanks,

 Mike

   
 


   


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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread keith_w
Jack Davis wrote:
 I included this negative with a couple of drug store scans I had recently 
 done. My thought was to offer them to Pentax, but then I recalled that this 
 image was shot with a point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such). Offering it 
 here as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.
 
 All comments welcome.
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=310

No computer, but a typewriter?

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Re: Grandfather wrap-up

2008-06-03 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/02 Mon PM 04:36:11 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Grandfather wrap-up
 
 I've made a web log post with my too-long narrative and some pictures 
 from this weekend. 
 http://grandfather08.blogspot.com/
 
 The three of us shared some cheeseburgers and shot the shit.

Quaint.


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Re: OT: Panasonic L1

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Mike Hamilton wrote:
 Hey all,
I've been interested in the Panasonic L1 since it was released, and  
 I'm now considering purchasing one for $400 (without the legendary  
 Leica kit lens).  What are the limitations of using K-mount lenses on  
 this body?  
The same as using a Pre A lens on any Pentax Digital mount body.

 As far as I'm aware, they need an aperture ring (so my  
 FA20-35 would work, but the DA21 would not).  How is metering via  
 adapter?  
Stop down...
 If I could get the Leica 14-50 2.8-3.5  with it for $800, I  
 might go for that...
   
You could look into inexpensive Olympus lenses...
 Any significant issues that you've come across?  I'm planning to use  
 this body to complement my K10D.  Perhaps I'd eventually get the  
 Olympus 25/2.8.

   
If you're looking for a smaller lighter backup camera and want to use 
the same lenses as your K20D I'd suggest the K200D, (that is if you 
really need 10mp).  The L1 uses in lens image stabilization and doesn't 
support sensor image stablization, so if that's not important for you 
and you can get by with only 6mp in your backup I think you'd be better 
off with a *ist-Ds.  They're relatively cheep used these days.  The L1 
just doesn't strike me as the most rational choice. 
 Thanks,

 Mike

   


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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:06 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.

Your better off not knowing

Dave


 Cheers

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 On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:59:32 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 We'll have to wait til Wednesday -

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 Subject: OT: Message from HockeyTown


  We want Stanley!


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Re: PESO - Spying the Train

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
Second one is nice enough, but the first is better

Dave

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:30 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Love it.

 One of the better ones so far,.

 Thanks, Dave.  It was a fruitful weekend of shooting!  ;-)

 Here's another one of Spy that I actually liked better, this time
 facing north on the same bridge:

 http://tinyurl.com/3umr8a

 http://bp3.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEQsEehUGdI/CMs/VQBifW3zLTA/s1600-h/may_30_08+006.jpg

 I posted the one I did, because I figured the tilt might bother some.
 I couldn't rotate it without losing too much of the train, and
 besides, I like it this way!  ;-)

 Thanks everyone for commenting!

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Re: Grandfather wrap-up

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It was brutal, we had to follow a mountain goat named Mark up a peak
 10Kft in formal wear just for a glass of wine. Next year I'm going beer
 only

No THATS the Norm we all know and love.:-)

I'll bring the coolers

Dave
 Norm
 Cory Waters wrote:
 How was the free wine tasting?
 CW

 Norm Baugher wrote:

 Nice to see you again Cory, me and the wife will definitely be there
 next year :)
 Norm

 Cory Waters wrote:

 Ouch.

 Norman Baugher wrote:


 Nice Sh#*!y picture of me Cory, maybe that's why I only show up at 
 night...
 Norm


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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread keith_w
P. J. Alling wrote:
 I still have a typewriter, I can't remember last time I put paper in it, and
 I don't know where I can get ribbons for it, and the old one is probably
 completely dried out, but I still have one, because you never know...

For that matter, so do we!
When my wife was working on her Masters, A _long_ time ago, she needed a lot of
form filling out typing to be done, for whatever reason, so we bought a slick
Smith Corona electric portable, XL1800.
Can't bring ourselves to throw away a perfectly good, practically new 
typewriter!
So, we store it high and dry, safely alongside all our buggy whips...

keith whaley


 
 keith_w wrote:
 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 I included this negative with a couple of drug store scans I had recently
 done. My thought was to offer them to Pentax, but then I recalled that
 this image was shot with a point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such).
 Offering it here as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.
 
 All comments welcome.
 
 Jack
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=310


 No computer, but a typewriter?
 
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Re: PESO - Spying the Train

2008-06-03 Thread Toine
Great shot.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:09 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Spy is the dog's name, and he ~loves~ watching the subway trains
 rumble underneath this pedestrian bridge!

 http://tinyurl.com/5g4mmv

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEPkRehUGZI/CMM/O6fFkgzp1dc/s1600-h/may_30_08+007.jpg

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Re: Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/03 Tue AM 10:11:20 GMT
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 Subject: Re: PESO: This is My Desk
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=310
 
 No computer, but a typewriter?

Unnaturally tidy, too.  Eerie.


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60es style glasses ain't kool?

2008-06-03 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=portraitblog=20080603145319

^^^ I like these glasses here, kinda balance his face. I find his hairdo 
inappropriate. I'd never set the hair up with long face like this, but I 
can't tell this guy anything, just ideas to my own diary. Your comments 
are appreciated...

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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
Contrast Controll, what and how is that?

I know it is a way to ballanse the output of two or more flashes.

Is it a Wireless alone feature? Or can it also be used in cabled setups?
Is it controlled by P-TTL or can you use it in automode?
I have thousands of questions :-)

MaritimTim

2008/6/3 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 If there's no external flash used, the on-camera flash compensation
 WILL change integrated flash output on my K10D.

 If an external flash is used as well as the integrated flash: not sure
 about FEC but contrast control works well :)

 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Manual flash control on the popup is not available on any Pentax DSLR.
 No flash control is available with non-A lenses (Every firing is full
 power).

 -Adam

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:37 PM, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 do any of the Pentax DSLRs have manual power control
 of the flash, with the istDS I sometimes get too much
 light on manual, would be nice if I could lower the power.
 as it is I have to resort to taping over the bulb sometimes.
 jco


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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
The Stanley Cup is the prize that goes to the champions of the  
National Hockey League, an ice-hockey league comprised of American  
and Canadian teams. The players, however, are from many different  
countries, primarily European. The championship is a best of seven  
series that is currently being contested by the Detroit Red Wings and  
Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit had a 3-1 lead going into last nights  
game, and they were winning 3-2 with 20 seconds to go. I jinxed them  
by posting that message, and Pittsburgh tied it up and went on to win  
in triple overtime.  Detroit, by the way, has seven Swedish players.
Paul
On Jun 3, 2008, at 2:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.


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 On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:59:32 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 We'll have to wait til Wednesday -

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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks, Paul

The only time we see anything about ice hockey here is an occasional 30
sec 'grab' when there is a particularly spectacular brawl.




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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:35:20 -0400, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 The Stanley Cup is the prize that goes to the champions of the  
 National Hockey League, an ice-hockey league comprised of American  
 and Canadian teams. The players, however, are from many different  
 countries, primarily European. The championship is a best of seven  
 series that is currently being contested by the Detroit Red Wings and  
 Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit had a 3-1 lead going into last nights  
 game, and they were winning 3-2 with 20 seconds to go. I jinxed them  
 by posting that message, and Pittsburgh tied it up and went on to win  
 in triple overtime.  Detroit, by the way, has seven Swedish players.
 Paul
 On Jun 3, 2008, at 2:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
  God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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  On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:59:32 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  We'll have to wait til Wednesday -
 
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  Subject: OT: Message from HockeyTown
 
 
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Re: OT: Panasonic L1

2008-06-03 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 3-Jun-08, at 4:24 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 If you're looking for a smaller lighter backup camera and want to use
 the same lenses as your K20D I'd suggest the K200D, (that is if you
 really need 10mp).  The L1 uses in lens image stabilization and  
 doesn't
 support sensor image stablization, so if that's not important for you
 and you can get by with only 6mp in your backup I think you'd be  
 better
 off with a *ist-Ds.  They're relatively cheep used these days.  The L1
 just doesn't strike me as the most rational choice.

PJ,
I'm not really looking for a backup camera.  I'm looking for  
something different, with strengths that complement my K10D.  I think  
the L1 fits that bill, with Live View, the boxy rangefinder design,  
and external controls.

Mike

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Re: OT: Panasonic L1

2008-06-03 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 2-Jun-08, at 11:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I've been using the L1 since May 2007. It has become my favorite DSLR
 body, regardless of what lens I put on it. It's not perfect, the K10D
 outperforms it in several ways, but there's something truly different
 and delightful about it. I didn't know at all whether it was worth it
 when I bought it ... four months later, i bought a second one.


 [...]


 As you might be able to tell, I'm an enthusiast of this camera. It's
 not without its flaws, but the photos it has made for me have been
 very satisfactory indeed.

Thanks, Godfrey.  Now I've just got to find a deal that I'm satisfied  
with! :)

Mike

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Re: usb to scsi

2008-06-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
So I need a dongle with a 25 pin female SCSI connector on one end and
the standard USB plug on the other

This shouldn't be a meaningful statement in a healthy society.  I'm
just saying.

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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread Jack Davis
Hold on to your carbon paper. Could become valuable if you corner the market. ;)
Thanks for commenting, Peter.

Jack


--- On Tue, 6/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: This is My Desk
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 3:29 AM
 I still have a typewriter, I can't remember last time I
 put paper in it, 
 and I don't know where I can get ribbons for it, and
 the old one is 
 probably completely dried out, but I still have one,
 because you never 
 know...
 
 keith_w wrote:
  Jack Davis wrote:

  I included this negative with a couple of drug
 store scans I had recently done. My thought was to offer
 them to Pentax, but then I recalled that this image was
 shot with a point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such).
 Offering it here as a study in the possessive aspects of
 human nature.
 
  All comments welcome.
 
  Jack
 
 
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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah. The shot is showing its age. Taken in 1998 when the clerical occupant was 
elsewhere.
Actually, that was a pretty high tech typewriter for my era.
Thanks for commenting, Keith.

Jack


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 From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: This is My Desk
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 3:11 AM
 Jack Davis wrote:
  I included this negative with a couple of drug store
 scans I had recently done. My thought was to offer them to
 Pentax, but then I recalled that this image was shot with a
 point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such). Offering it here
 as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.
  
  All comments welcome.
  
  Jack
  
 
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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread Thibouille
OK will try to remember as much as I can.

First, contrast control was introduced with Z-serie (SF?) cameras
which did have the ability (which I miss a lot) to use external flash
as well as integrated flash (wireless didn't exist at that time). So
it worked already in the TTL era. It still does work however.

With two flashes (More, I dunno) which were as I said the integrated
flash and the external one, using contrastcontrol will do the
following:

* balance the output power of both flash so 1/3rd the light comes from
the integrated flash and 2/3rd from the external flash.

* lower max sync speed because of the process of syncing those.

In fact the major use of it was when you bounce the external flash and
usse the integrated one to bust shadows. In my experience it worked
pretty well, even with compatible flashes as Metz MZ flashes.

I dunno the implications of using this in wireless mode with more than
2 flashes however or if it is still possible at all. Maybe only in
wired mode with deported flash.


BTW, I checked yesterday and indeed my K10D integrated flash reacts
pretty well to the flash exposure compensation set on the camera.
Exposure settings did not move but flash power did, and the result was
very noticeable between -1 and +1.

I think this is all. Feel free to ask for more :)

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Re: usb to scsi

2008-06-03 Thread Thibouille
Scott, Adaptec made a those adapters yeasr ago but it has been
discontinued (from them at least) for a couple years now. If you do
not find anything new you should be able to secure one in 2nd hand on
ebay pretty easily.

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 my laptop, which has not SCSI nor PCMCIA.  So I need a dongle with a 25
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Re: PESO: The Hair Toss

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dave.

On Jun 3, 2008, at 10:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Nice. Its sharp, but has a smooth quality to it, if that makes sense.

 Something to take the mind off of last night.:-)

 Dave

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I asked the model to toss her hair back and forth and shot in  
 continuous autofocus mode.

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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread Jos from Holland
Further to what was said:
The two flasguns were triggered at a different moment in time, one at 
the leading edge of the sync pulse and the second at the trailing edge 
(this is in fact rear curtain sync)
In this way the light output of each gun could be measured and 
controlled independently.
Example if the main flash came from the side of a model, the shadow side 
could be too dark, too much contrast. The second flash (maybe on the 
camera) could bring just a bit of light in the dark parts to get a 
contrast that could be handled by the film.
On the PZ-1, I created contrast control with 30 year old automatic 
flashes, one triggered at the leading edge and one triggered with the 
trailing edge. I only had to make a little circuit for one flash to 
surpress the leading edge and to invert the trailing edge to get rear 
curtain sync.
One of these days I should check if my K10D allows the same trick.
If I only had time...
Greetz, Jos


Thibouille wrote:
 OK will try to remember as much as I can.

 First, contrast control was introduced with Z-serie (SF?) cameras
 which did have the ability (which I miss a lot) to use external flash
 as well as integrated flash (wireless didn't exist at that time). So
 it worked already in the TTL era. It still does work however.

 With two flashes (More, I dunno) which were as I said the integrated
 flash and the external one, using contrastcontrol will do the
 following:

 * balance the output power of both flash so 1/3rd the light comes from
 the integrated flash and 2/3rd from the external flash.

 * lower max sync speed because of the process of syncing those.

 In fact the major use of it was when you bounce the external flash and
 usse the integrated one to bust shadows. In my experience it worked
 pretty well, even with compatible flashes as Metz MZ flashes.

 I dunno the implications of using this in wireless mode with more than
 2 flashes however or if it is still possible at all. Maybe only in
 wired mode with deported flash.


 BTW, I checked yesterday and indeed my K10D integrated flash reacts
 pretty well to the flash exposure compensation set on the camera.
 Exposure settings did not move but flash power did, and the result was
 very noticeable between -1 and +1.

 I think this is all. Feel free to ask for more :)

   

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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
So having not signed up for any of their other services, how long did it 
take for them to send you the actual link for download?

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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread Jack Davis
My impression to seeing a desk furnished to this extent, is its validation of 
the common nesting compulsion. 
Neatness is necessary only to allow her a place to sit. ;)

Jack


--- On Tue, 6/3/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 7:53 AM
 A lot neater than my old work desk ever used to be.
 
 A few years ago, i went on a week vacation. When i returned
 out AA had
 cleaned my desk up and i freaked. I thought she had thrown
 out all of
 my stickies and papers with numbers etc on them.
 
 Nope, she just put them away.
 
 
 Took the rest of the week to put things back.:-)
 
 Dave
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I included this negative with a couple of drug store
 scans I had recently done. My thought was to offer them to
 Pentax, but then I recalled that this image was shot with a
 point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such). Offering it here
 as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.
 
  All comments welcome.
 
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Geso Fill flash

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2008-paec2/index.htm

Since it was very o/c on Sunday, at the horse, er opps, Pony show, I thought
it best to use some fill flash on the candids while the indoor part of
the show was on.
After all i have black cameras, might as well look like a Pro, ehe.:-0

The files a1acandid and files marked Cash and Miles are all using fill.

Candids Nikon D1H and sb80dx, and Cash and Miles K10D and 360.

Some look over lit, others look more natural.

Anyone with more fill experience want to have a look, and comment.??

If not, no biggy.

Fill was mostly -1.0 to -2.0, but some of the overly brights were at
-0.5 IIRC. I used a +0.7 EV on the D1h to get a decently right Histo.

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Re: GFM report in brief

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Right. I got back from North Carolina around 6:30 last night and I'm
 still in recovery mode but I'll bash out a bit of a report here. I'd
 threatened to post updates on my blog throughout the weekend but that
 obviously didn't happen and I shouldn't be surprised; there's simply not
 enough time (nor places to get an Internet connection) to do it.


 This year, having been stood up by my usual Canadian contingent (sniff),
 I departed a day earlier than usual, on Tuesday. This basically put me
 ahead of the usual game by 24 hours and I was able to get in a full day
 of hiking and photography on Thursday.

Again, I'm sorry.:-)
You might regret this, but i am probably going to come down next year.
The horse show i did was a complete waste.

Dave
 Good thing, too, because official
 activities prevented me from shooting nearly as much as I'd have liked
 to during the rest of the weekend.

 So I did a long hike on the Grandfather trail Thursday morning, followed
 by an even longer one, with a full load of camping gear on Thursday
 evening. Camped out at the Alpine Meadow camp site this year.
 Photography at sunset and sunrise was only OK but it was still a great
 adventure.

 Friday was mostly business but I did lead the now-traditional Saturday
 morning hike on the Grandfather Trail to Attic Window Peak. This year we
  had an attrition rate of only 25%! Cotty, Helen and I made it all the
 way to Attic Window, though it did take some persuading: Cotty thought
 he already had enough video at that point and Helen had some silly
 notion of getting back in time to take a shower. Bah! It was big fun.

 I spent Saturday afternoon selling schwag. I sold a big pile of You can
 never have too many lenses t-shirts, plus a few bumper stickers and a
 few Auto Parts books. Haven't added up the totals but I think we
 raised a reasonable chunk of money for the National Childhood Cancer
 Foundation there.

 Sunday was just a blur. I'll have to look at everyone's photos and see
 if any of them jogs my memory...

 I'll post a few of my own shots later.

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Re: Vagabonds in TAv

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
Same here.
When i went downtown a few times last year to met up with Frank, i
used that mode. Seems suited for the street

Dave

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:44 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I frequently use it when shooting on the street or in the coffee shop, which 
 is always unevenly lit due to window location.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What Dave said--both points!  Cheers, Christine


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  Some nice shots there.
 
  I played around for a while in Tva mode, and thought it was a very
  useful thing to have.
 
  Dave
 
  On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080602154818
 
  ^^^ TAV is real blessing mode for moving objects or street photography.
  You get DOF desired with flawless/sharp motion capture. I accidentially
  switched meterring to spot (umm, not used to K20D ergonomics yet).
 
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Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread timber
http://photoshop.aws.sitepoint.com/
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Re: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Ralf:  The photos are terrific, but the slide show timing dragged a bit--for 
me at least--maybe just a shade less time per photo.  I liked what you used 
for sound, but synching with images could be tighter.  HTH.  Overall, 
enjoyed viewing this.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 4:39 PM
Subject: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008


SESO...?

Well, that's a slideshow ever so often. :-)

Been to Brussels last saturday to watch the Zinneke Parade, a bi-annual
event organised by an association to celebrate the cultural diversity of
the Belgian capital's population. This year's motto was water.

Unlike the usual carnivals and techno parades we're having all over
Europe nowadays, the Zinnike Parade has a special rule: no engines, no
amplifiers.

If you want a float then you'll have to push it and if you want music
you'll have to sing, beat a drum or use whatever you have at hand as
long as it doesn't involve elctronics. No 120 dBA mega-disco on wheels,
here.

My little show involves a few recent aquisitions: a Pentax DA 50-200 mm
lens which was used for all pictures, a Zoom H2 WAV recorder, OKM
ear-plug microphones, and SlideShowPro - a Lightroom plug-in used to
create the whole slideshow.

Now, does everything work with all browsers and systems? Feedback
please. I'm also very interested in your opinions. No fishing for
compliments here, so please be critical.

http://www.fotoralf.de/zinneke/front.html

Hope you'll enjoy watching as much as we did when we attended the
parade.

Un grand merci aux Bruxellois! It's been a wonderful day.

Ralf

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GFM report in brief

2008-06-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Right. I got back from North Carolina around 6:30 last night and I’m 
still in recovery mode but I’ll bash out a bit of a report here. I’d 
threatened to post updates on my blog throughout the weekend but that 
obviously didn’t happen and I shouldn’t be surprised; there’s simply not 
enough time (nor places to get an Internet connection) to do it.
This year, having been stood up by my usual Canadian contingent (sniff), 
I departed a day earlier than usual, on Tuesday. This basically put me 
ahead of the usual game by 24 hours and I was able to get in a full day 
of hiking and photography on Thursday. Good thing, too, because official 
activities prevented me from shooting nearly as much as I'd have liked 
to during the rest of the weekend.

So I did a long hike on the Grandfather trail Thursday morning, followed 
by an even longer one, with a full load of camping gear on Thursday 
evening. Camped out at the Alpine Meadow camp site this year. 
Photography at sunset and sunrise was only OK but it was still a great 
adventure.

Friday was mostly business but I did lead the now-traditional Saturday 
morning hike on the Grandfather Trail to Attic Window Peak. This year we 
  had an attrition rate of only 25%! Cotty, Helen and I made it all the 
way to Attic Window, though it did take some persuading: Cotty thought 
he already had enough video at that point and Helen had some silly 
notion of getting back in time to take a shower. Bah! It was big fun.

I spent Saturday afternoon selling schwag. I sold a big pile of You can 
never have too many lenses t-shirts, plus a few bumper stickers and a 
few Auto Parts books. Haven't added up the totals but I think we 
raised a reasonable chunk of money for the National Childhood Cancer 
Foundation there.

Sunday was just a blur. I'll have to look at everyone's photos and see 
if any of them jogs my memory...

I'll post a few of my own shots later.

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Re: PESO: The Hair Toss

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. Its sharp, but has a smooth quality to it, if that makes sense.

Something to take the mind off of last night.:-)

Dave

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 I asked the model to toss her hair back and forth and shot in continuous 
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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7355828

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Re: PESO: This is My Desk

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
A lot neater than my old work desk ever used to be.

A few years ago, i went on a week vacation. When i returned out AA had
cleaned my desk up and i freaked. I thought she had thrown out all of
my stickies and papers with numbers etc on them.

Nope, she just put them away.


Took the rest of the week to put things back.:-)

Dave

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I included this negative with a couple of drug store scans I had recently 
 done. My thought was to offer them to Pentax, but then I recalled that this 
 image was shot with a point-and-shoot (Pentax W90..or some such). Offering it 
 here as a study in the possessive aspects of human nature.

 All comments welcome.

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Re: selfportraits

2008-06-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Luka:  Very intriguing pictures.  I prefer the second one best--it has a 
more pleasing composition to me.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Paul

 The only time we see anything about ice hockey here is an occasional 30
 sec 'grab' when there is a particularly spectacular brawl.

Thatys pretty much hockey in a nut shell.:-)

Dave




 Cheers

 Brian

 ++
 Brian Walters
 Western Sydney Australia
 http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/



 On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:35:20 -0400, Paul Stenquist
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 The Stanley Cup is the prize that goes to the champions of the
 National Hockey League, an ice-hockey league comprised of American
 and Canadian teams. The players, however, are from many different
 countries, primarily European. The championship is a best of seven
 series that is currently being contested by the Detroit Red Wings and
 Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit had a 3-1 lead going into last nights
 game, and they were winning 3-2 with 20 seconds to go. I jinxed them
 by posting that message, and Pittsburgh tied it up and went on to win
 in triple overtime.  Detroit, by the way, has seven Swedish players.
 Paul
 On Jun 3, 2008, at 2:06 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

  God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
  ++
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  http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
 
 
  On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:59:32 -0400, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  We'll have to wait til Wednesday -
 
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Re: OT: Panasonic L1

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:24 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 The same as using a Pre A lens on any Pentax Digital mount body.

No, it's the same as using an M42 thread mount lens. pre-A series  
lenses on Pentax DSLRs have auto-iris operation but no Av mode with  
aperture control.

 You could look into inexpensive Olympus lenses...

The ZD 25/2.8 and ZD 35/3.5 Macro cost around $200-250 each and are  
superb performers. The Olympus kit zoom lenses are similarly priced,  
very good, if a bit slower than I prefer.

Godfrey

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Re: Geso Fill flash

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
Technically, I wouldn't call that fill. You're using flash to add some pop to 
dull light, not to fill shadows. But you did a great job. The exposure comp 
you used served to get you closer to the background value. You might have 
achieved teh same thing without comp just by adjusting exposure values. But the 
results speak for themselves. Very good.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2008-paec2/index.htm
 
 Since it was very o/c on Sunday, at the horse, er opps, Pony show, I thought
 it best to use some fill flash on the candids while the indoor part of
 the show was on.
 After all i have black cameras, might as well look like a Pro, ehe.:-0
 
 The files a1acandid and files marked Cash and Miles are all using fill.
 
 Candids Nikon D1H and sb80dx, and Cash and Miles K10D and 360.
 
 Some look over lit, others look more natural.
 
 Anyone with more fill experience want to have a look, and comment.??
 
 If not, no biggy.
 
 Fill was mostly -1.0 to -2.0, but some of the overly brights were at
 -0.5 IIRC. I used a +0.7 EV on the D1h to get a decently right Histo.
 
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One shot from GFM

2008-06-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Many things to do today but I thought I'd post one GFM photo before I 
set out on my errands. This is Helen the GFM staff photog (and wannabe 
motorcycle thief) on top of MacRae peak:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802249a.jpg

K20D, DA*16-50/2.8 @ 50mm, polarizer

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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread Gonz
Tried it, got nothing so far

On 6/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://photoshop.aws.sitepoint.com/
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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread mike wilson
RT*M
The Z1-p one gives a particularly dense explanation.

 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/06/03 Tue PM 12:40:12 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?
 
 Contrast Controll, what and how is that?
 
 I know it is a way to ballanse the output of two or more flashes.
 
 Is it a Wireless alone feature? Or can it also be used in cabled setups?
 Is it controlled by P-TTL or can you use it in automode?
 I have thousands of questions :-)
 
 MaritimTim
 
 2008/6/3 Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  If there's no external flash used, the on-camera flash compensation
  WILL change integrated flash output on my K10D.
 
  If an external flash is used as well as the integrated flash: not sure
  about FEC but contrast control works well :)
 
  On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Manual flash control on the popup is not available on any Pentax DSLR.
  No flash control is available with non-A lenses (Every firing is full
  power).
 
  -Adam
 
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  do any of the Pentax DSLRs have manual power control
  of the flash, with the istDS I sometimes get too much
  light on manual, would be nice if I could lower the power.
  as it is I have to resort to taping over the bulb sometimes.
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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread Thibouille
neither did I.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tried it, got nothing so far

 On 6/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: Message from HockeyTown


 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Paul

 The only time we see anything about ice hockey here is an occasional 30
 sec 'grab' when there is a particularly spectacular brawl.
 
 Thatys pretty much hockey in a nut shell.:-)

I went to see the fights one night, and someone started a hockey game.

William Robb

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Re: Message from HockeyTown

2008-06-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters 
Subject: Re: Message from HockeyTown


 God, I wish I knew what you guys are talking about.

no, you don't.

William Robb

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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I like this a lot. It could stand a little more editing ... timing  
marks, length, etc ... but otherwise it's great.

SlideShowPro for Lightroom, eh? Hmm, got to look into that. ;-)

Godfrey


On Jun 2, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 SESO...?

 Well, that's a slideshow ever so often. :-)

 Been to Brussels last saturday to watch the Zinneke Parade, a bi- 
 annual
 event organised by an association to celebrate the cultural  
 diversity of
 the Belgian capital's population. This year's motto was water.

 Unlike the usual carnivals and techno parades we're having all over
 Europe nowadays, the Zinnike Parade has a special rule: no engines, no
 amplifiers.

 If you want a float then you'll have to push it and if you want music
 you'll have to sing, beat a drum or use whatever you have at hand as
 long as it doesn't involve elctronics. No 120 dBA mega-disco on  
 wheels,
 here.

 My little show involves a few recent aquisitions: a Pentax DA  
 50-200 mm
 lens which was used for all pictures, a Zoom H2 WAV recorder, OKM
 ear-plug microphones, and SlideShowPro - a Lightroom plug-in used to
 create the whole slideshow.

 Now, does everything work with all browsers and systems? Feedback
 please. I'm also very interested in your opinions. No fishing for
 compliments here, so please be critical.

 http://www.fotoralf.de/zinneke/front.html

 Hope you'll enjoy watching as much as we did when we attended the
 parade.

 Un grand merci aux Bruxellois! It's been a wonderful day.


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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you to all three of you. Sounds like something useful.
I think it can be useful with on camera flash and the 540 mounted at a
flash bracket.

I have finally decided what I'll buy, one 540 (maybe a 360, or another
540 later), a short cable, a Better Beamer for birding, and a
Lumiquest bounce kit for regular flash photography.

MaritimTim

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Re: Geso Fill flash

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Would have been better if you'd set the flash on a lightstand, angled  
into the scene and slightly above, triggered with a slave remote, so  
that the flash fill could create some modeling shadows. Most look  
kinda flat to my eye.

I've done this for portraits done outdoors in shade or an overcast  
day using a little trigger flash (the Nikon SB-30, courtesy Adam's  
suggestion) set on minimum output manual and the IR shield raised, a  
Wein strobe slave sensor, and the Sunpak 383 fitted with Lumiquest  
Mini SoftBox set to manual 1/8-1/16 output. A couple of test shots  
and you dial in the flash/ambient exposure balance, then you just  
shoot and concentrate on framing and focus (presuming your light  
stays reasonably consistent). I like doing that much more than trying  
to figure out what the flash automation systems will do.

Godfrey

On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:32 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2008-paec2/index.htm

 Since it was very o/c on Sunday, at the horse, er opps, Pony show,  
 I thought
 it best to use some fill flash on the candids while the indoor part of
 the show was on.
 After all i have black cameras, might as well look like a Pro, ehe.:-0

 The files a1acandid and files marked Cash and Miles are all using  
 fill.

 Candids Nikon D1H and sb80dx, and Cash and Miles K10D and 360.

 Some look over lit, others look more natural.

 Anyone with more fill experience want to have a look, and comment.??

 If not, no biggy.

 Fill was mostly -1.0 to -2.0, but some of the overly brights were at
 -0.5 IIRC. I used a +0.7 EV on the D1h to get a decently right Histo.


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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I like this a lot. It could stand a little more editing ... timing  
 marks, length, etc ... but otherwise it's great.

Hi Godders,

Just gave it a clean-up and those stupid progress indicators should now
be gone. 

Also, it now starts automatically, no more low-quality downscaling in
the browser window, the volume is a little lower, and the dwell time has
been shortened to 5 secs. 

Any other suggestions? Mind you, it's my first project of this kind and
the subject is totally different from my usual industry stuff.

 SlideShowPro for Lightroom, eh? Hmm, got to look into that. ;-)

It's great, especially considering the price of a mere 25 bucks. 

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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Toine
There's also SlideShowPro Director. A very nice content manager for
slideshowpro. It generates jpg resized on demand, for instance resized
to the specific full size resolution of the current viewing client.
They also have a lightroom export plugin to Director. You could try
the full screen slideshow on my site http://www.repiuk.nl


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this a lot. It could stand a little more editing ... timing
 marks, length, etc ... but otherwise it's great.

 SlideShowPro for Lightroom, eh? Hmm, got to look into that. ;-)

 Godfrey


 On Jun 2, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 SESO...?

 Well, that's a slideshow ever so often. :-)

 Been to Brussels last saturday to watch the Zinneke Parade, a bi-
 annual
 event organised by an association to celebrate the cultural
 diversity of
 the Belgian capital's population. This year's motto was water.

 Unlike the usual carnivals and techno parades we're having all over
 Europe nowadays, the Zinnike Parade has a special rule: no engines, no
 amplifiers.

 If you want a float then you'll have to push it and if you want music
 you'll have to sing, beat a drum or use whatever you have at hand as
 long as it doesn't involve elctronics. No 120 dBA mega-disco on
 wheels,
 here.

 My little show involves a few recent aquisitions: a Pentax DA
 50-200 mm
 lens which was used for all pictures, a Zoom H2 WAV recorder, OKM
 ear-plug microphones, and SlideShowPro - a Lightroom plug-in used to
 create the whole slideshow.

 Now, does everything work with all browsers and systems? Feedback
 please. I'm also very interested in your opinions. No fishing for
 compliments here, so please be critical.

 http://www.fotoralf.de/zinneke/front.html

 Hope you'll enjoy watching as much as we did when we attended the
 parade.

 Un grand merci aux Bruxellois! It's been a wonderful day.


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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread Gonz
I think it must just be an email address harvesting ploy.  Just wait
for the spam...



On 6/3/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 neither did I.


  On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tried it, got nothing so far
  
   On 6/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   http://photoshop.aws.sitepoint.com/
(Hope it wasn't linked yet :P)
  
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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 I like this a lot. It could stand a little more editing ... timing
 marks, length, etc ... but otherwise it's great.

 Just gave it a clean-up and those stupid progress indicators should  
 now
 be gone.

 Also, it now starts automatically, no more low-quality downscaling in
 the browser window, the volume is a little lower, and the dwell  
 time has
 been shortened to 5 secs.

Definitely an improvement. The photo are excellent too, btw. :-)

 Any other suggestions? Mind you, it's my first project of this kind  
 and
 the subject is totally different from my usual industry stuff.

Not off the top of my head. I've been working on some ideas in this  
vein for a bit. It takes a while for me to get into a presentation  
enough to really see the detail work involved. I think it's a  
different part of the brain that needs to be activated and trained... !

Godfrey

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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Looks very interesting! I'll have to do some research now.

I've been working with SoundSlides Plus for a bit, hardly exploiting  
as much as I should. Time to get back to work on it. :-)

Godfrey


On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Toine wrote:

 There's also SlideShowPro Director. A very nice content manager for
 slideshowpro. It generates jpg resized on demand, for instance resized
 to the specific full size resolution of the current viewing client.
 They also have a lightroom export plugin to Director. You could try
 the full screen slideshow on my site http://www.repiuk.nl


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RE: usb to scsi

2008-06-03 Thread Bob W
 
 So I need a dongle with a 25 pin female SCSI connector on one end
and
 the standard USB plug on the other
 
 This shouldn't be a meaningful statement in a healthy society.  I'm
 just saying.
 
 Steve

is it meaningful? I'm just asking.

Bob


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Re: usb to scsi

2008-06-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Bob W wrote:
 So I need a dongle with a 25 pin female SCSI connector on one end
 and
 the standard USB plug on the other

 This shouldn't be a meaningful statement in a healthy society.  I'm
 just saying.

 Steve
 
 is it meaningful? I'm just asking.
 
 Bob
 
It is.  In a horrible, awful way.


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PESO: Paddling

2008-06-03 Thread drew
Hi all.

Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village 
called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna 
Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/

Appreciate any comments.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Spying the Train

2008-06-03 Thread Christian
frank theriault wrote:
 Spy is the dog's name, and he ~loves~ watching the subway trains
 rumble underneath this pedestrian bridge!
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5g4mmv
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEPkRehUGZI/CMM/O6fFkgzp1dc/s1600-h/may_30_08+007.jpg
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 

Yet another instant classic.  You are officially hated.  Someone make a 
note of it... :-)

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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
That's why I gave them my junk mail address.   (When it gets to the 
point that it fills up to fast I kill the account and create a new one).

Gonz wrote:
 I think it must just be an email address harvesting ploy.  Just wait
 for the spam...



 On 6/3/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 neither did I.


  On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tried it, got nothing so far
  
   On 6/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   http://photoshop.aws.sitepoint.com/
(Hope it wasn't linked yet :P)
  
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Re: usb to scsi

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 3, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 So I need a dongle with a 25 pin female SCSI connector on one  
 end and
 the standard USB plug on the other

 This shouldn't be a meaningful statement in a healthy society.  I'm
 just saying.

 is it meaningful? I'm just asking.

 It is.  In a horrible, awful way.

Sometimes I have to wonder about this group. Well, not sometimes. ;-)

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Re: PESO - Spying the Train

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Christian wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:
   
 Spy is the dog's name, and he ~loves~ watching the subway trains
 rumble underneath this pedestrian bridge!

 http://tinyurl.com/5g4mmv

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SEPkRehUGZI/CMM/O6fFkgzp1dc/s1600-h/may_30_08+007.jpg

 Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

 

 Yet another instant classic.  You are officially hated.  Someone make a 
 note of it... :-)
   

I believe that's Frank's job.
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Re: One shot from GFM

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot. But give us more Helen:-).
Paul
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 Many things to do today but I thought I'd post one GFM photo before I 
 set out on my errands. This is Helen the GFM staff photog (and wannabe 
 motorcycle thief) on top of MacRae peak:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802249a.jpg
 
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Re: PESO: Paddling

2008-06-03 Thread Cory Waters
Paddling appears to mean something different there...
CW

drew wrote:
 Hi all.

 Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village 
 called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna 
 Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/

 Appreciate any comments.

 Cheers,
 Drew.

   
 


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PESO: out of the blurr

2008-06-03 Thread Axel Belinfante
faded swimming pool shot, with amidst all flat faded blurr
the in-water lane sepator that kind of 3d jumps out of the pic.

this is at least the effect it has when I watch it full screen on
the monitor, I'm not sure the web version has this in the same way.

I like the effect enough to share it here.

it is not my pic - it is by my son Ede who will be 5 in June.

Pentax W30

http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5207757006704132034

Axel.

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Re: Manual flash contol on Pentax DSLRS?

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
That's pretty much my flash kit: a 540, a Kirk flash Xtender and the lumiquest 
bounce kit. I also have the lumiquest soft box attachment. That can be useful 
where reflectors don't give you enough pop.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thank you to all three of you. Sounds like something useful.
 I think it can be useful with on camera flash and the 540 mounted at a
 flash bracket.
 
 I have finally decided what I'll buy, one 540 (maybe a 360, or another
 540 later), a short cable, a Better Beamer for birding, and a
 Lumiquest bounce kit for regular flash photography.
 
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Re: PESO: Paddling

2008-06-03 Thread drew
yes.. nothing to do with fetish, sorry to disappoint you ;-)

Drew.



Cory Waters wrote:
 Paddling appears to mean something different there...
 CW
 
 drew wrote:
 Hi all.

 Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village 
 called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna 
 Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/

 Appreciate any comments.

 Cheers,
 Drew.

   
 


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RE: 60es style glasses ain't kool?

2008-06-03 Thread Bob W
 
 http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=portraitblog
 =20080603145319
 
 ^^^ I like these glasses here, kinda balance his face. I find 
 his hairdo 
 inappropriate. I'd never set the hair up with long face like 
 this, but I 
 can't tell this guy anything, just ideas to my own diary. 
 Your comments 
 are appreciated...
 
 Roman.

You're talking to a bunch of fat, middle-aged, bald guys, mostly
straight. I don't think we're gonna have a lot to say about
gentlemens' hair fashion in the Baltic region.

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Re: 60es style glasses ain't kool?

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey, I still have most of my hair, (and I'm tall so the fat doesn't show 
so much...)

Bob W wrote:
 http://roman.blakout.net/?year=2008s=0category=portraitblog
 =20080603145319

 ^^^ I like these glasses here, kinda balance his face. I find 
 his hairdo 
 inappropriate. I'd never set the hair up with long face like 
 this, but I 
 can't tell this guy anything, just ideas to my own diary. 
 Your comments 
 are appreciated...

 Roman.
 

 You're talking to a bunch of fat, middle-aged, bald guys, mostly
 straight. I don't think we're gonna have a lot to say about
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PDML heaven?

2008-06-03 Thread Bob W
Given the kind of things people talk about here, I'd think an article
about cycling and single malts by a Magnum photographer should pretty
much hit the spot.

Unfortunately this link is not to the article, but to the magazine,
Rouleur, which is probably too hip for its own good:

http://tinyurl.com/5lfe94

http://www.rapha.cc/index.php?page=94utm_source=newsletter_03June08u
tm_medium=emailutm_content=textlinkutm_campaign=newsletter_03June08

OK, so there are no single malts, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain

2008-06-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/6/08, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed:

You got German orthopedic sandles?!?

They are second to none.

http://www.birkenstock.com/index_gr24.php


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Re: PESO: Paddling

2008-06-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/6/08, drew, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi all.

Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village 
called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna 
Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/

Appreciate any comments.


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Re: PESO: Paddling

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
What Cotty said. Pretty backlight.
Paul
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 3/6/08, drew, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Last week we had a short camping holiday in Devon. At a little village 
 called Malmsmead in the area known as Doone Vally (after the book Lorna 
 Doone) we found a ford, the kids were desperate to have a paddle.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rileyelf/2546470618/
 
 Appreciate any comments.
 
 
 That's a really nice grab.
 
 
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WANTED TO BUY - Hard Lens Case(s)

2008-06-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Anyone have any hard lens case or cases to sell?

I need one about 3 diameter by about 4 tall ( inside dims).

Also need some smaller ones, about the size to fit a 50mm F1.4 or smaller
lens.

If anybody has any extras laying around in decent shape, let
me make you  a good offer for them!

I also have a bunch, but not these size, would be willing to
trade if wanted.

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Re: Geso Fill flash

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
Bad choice of a photo phrase, but i think you knew what i meant.

LOL

Thanks Paul.

So just so i think i understand, are you suggesting i cut back on my
in camera exposure, not use the + ev an then use the flash to add that
extra light.

I think thats how i read it.

Dave

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:05 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Technically, I wouldn't call that fill. You're using flash to add some pop to 
 dull light, not to fill shadows. But you did a great job. The exposure comp 
 you used served to get you closer to the background value. You might have 
 achieved teh same thing without comp just by adjusting exposure values. But 
 the results speak for themselves. Very good.
 Paul
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 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2008-paec2/index.htm

 Since it was very o/c on Sunday, at the horse, er opps, Pony show, I thought
 it best to use some fill flash on the candids while the indoor part of
 the show was on.
 After all i have black cameras, might as well look like a Pro, ehe.:-0

 The files a1acandid and files marked Cash and Miles are all using fill.

 Candids Nikon D1H and sb80dx, and Cash and Miles K10D and 360.

 Some look over lit, others look more natural.

 Anyone with more fill experience want to have a look, and comment.??

 If not, no biggy.

 Fill was mostly -1.0 to -2.0, but some of the overly brights were at
 -0.5 IIRC. I used a +0.7 EV on the D1h to get a decently right Histo.

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Re: Geso Fill flash

2008-06-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would have been better if you'd set the flash on a lightstand, angled
 into the scene and slightly above, triggered with a slave remote, so
 that the flash fill could create some modeling shadows. Most look
 kinda flat to my eye.

That sounds like it could work. I'd have to keep moving the stand, as
i move around and they stand around.:-)

I have some triggers now and an older tripod that could work.

I'll see if i can try that next time

Dave

 I've done this for portraits done outdoors in shade or an overcast
 day using a little trigger flash (the Nikon SB-30, courtesy Adam's
 suggestion) set on minimum output manual and the IR shield raised, a
 Wein strobe slave sensor, and the Sunpak 383 fitted with Lumiquest
 Mini SoftBox set to manual 1/8-1/16 output. A couple of test shots
 and you dial in the flash/ambient exposure balance, then you just
 shoot and concentrate on framing and focus (presuming your light
 stays reasonably consistent). I like doing that much more than trying
 to figure out what the flash automation systems will do.

 Godfrey

 On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:32 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2008-paec2/index.htm

 Since it was very o/c on Sunday, at the horse, er opps, Pony show,
 I thought
 it best to use some fill flash on the candids while the indoor part of
 the show was on.
 After all i have black cameras, might as well look like a Pro, ehe.:-0

 The files a1acandid and files marked Cash and Miles are all using
 fill.

 Candids Nikon D1H and sb80dx, and Cash and Miles K10D and 360.

 Some look over lit, others look more natural.

 Anyone with more fill experience want to have a look, and comment.??

 If not, no biggy.

 Fill was mostly -1.0 to -2.0, but some of the overly brights were at
 -0.5 IIRC. I used a +0.7 EV on the D1h to get a decently right Histo.


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Re: One shot from GFM

2008-06-03 Thread Mark Roberts
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 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Many things to do today but I thought I'd post one GFM photo before I 
 set out on my errands. This is Helen the GFM staff photog (and wannabe 
 motorcycle thief) on top of MacRae peak:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802249a.jpg

 K20D, DA*16-50/2.8 @ 50mm, polarizer

  Nice shot. But give us more Helen:-).

Can do. But you get two old gits as well in the same shot, 
unfortunately. (You can Photoshop us out.)

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802254.jpg

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Re: Free PS book for 9 days

2008-06-03 Thread Bruce Walker
Gonz wrote:
 I think it must just be an email address harvesting ploy.  Just wait
 for the spam...
   

Well, yes and no.

I downloaded this book last week.  I got the d/l link back in the mail 
within an hour or so of requesting it.  (Check your spam folder.)

First-off, the book is mainly of interest to website developers -- how 
to create backgrounds and bevel-edged buttons with gradient fills, 
manipulating images, coordinating image colour-maps so you can overlay 
them, etc.  There's one chapter called Adjusting Images that discusses 
curves and levels, so it has some photography-relevance.

I have received one spam from SitePoint since I downloaded the PDF 
book.  They were hoping I'd sign up for online website design courses or 
something.  I tossed it.

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Re: Grandfather Mountain

2008-06-03 Thread David Savage
2008/6/3 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 2/6/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

2) Why, why, why do Poms insist on wearing socks with sandles?

 It was first thing in the morning and my boots were stuck up your ass.

That explains the blocked up feeling...

 Seriously, my boots were in the back of an Xterra that had exited for
 the sunrise, reunited with me shortly thereafter. I do not wear socks
 and sandles together except in emergencies BTW they are Birki's :)

OK, that I can appreciate :-)

Cheers,

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Re: SESO: Zinneke Parade Brussels 2008

2008-06-03 Thread Bruce Walker
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 Any other suggestions? Mind you, it's my first project of this kind and
 the subject is totally different from my usual industry stuff.

   
Works OK in Safari (3.1.1) on the Mac.  Although I notice that when you 
hit the pause button it only pauses the pix, the soundtrack keeps on 
rolling.

Well done, though.

-bmw

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used lens prices got you down? Got a special event coming up?

2008-06-03 Thread Cory Waters
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/706393605.html

sheesh...

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Re: One shot from GFM

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Hamler
Mark, set your remote to 2 sec delay so you can hide the remote!!  :-)
Nice use of the FE

Walt

On 6/3/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Many things to do today but I thought I'd post one GFM photo before I
  set out on my errands. This is Helen the GFM staff photog (and wannabe
  motorcycle thief) on top of MacRae peak:
  http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802249a.jpg
 
  K20D, DA*16-50/2.8 @ 50mm, polarizer
 
   Nice shot. But give us more Helen:-).

 Can do. But you get two old gits as well in the same shot,
 unfortunately. (You can Photoshop us out.)

 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802254.jpg

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Re: One shot from GFM

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot, pretty girl. I may have to show up at the mountain next year:-).
Paul
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From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mark, set your remote to 2 sec delay so you can hide the remote!!  :-)
 Nice use of the FE
 
 Walt
 
 On 6/3/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Many things to do today but I thought I'd post one GFM photo before I
   set out on my errands. This is Helen the GFM staff photog (and wannabe
   motorcycle thief) on top of MacRae peak:
   http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802249a.jpg
  
   K20D, DA*16-50/2.8 @ 50mm, polarizer
  
Nice shot. But give us more Helen:-).
 
  Can do. But you get two old gits as well in the same shot,
  unfortunately. (You can Photoshop us out.)
 
  http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d802254.jpg
 
  (At the summit of MacRae Peak. K20D, 10-17 fisheye)
 
 
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PESO: Lumix Orchid

2008-06-03 Thread Walter Hamler
Shot with a Lumix, not a species!
I have been eyeing the new TZ5 Panasonic Lumix and finally got one today.
The learning curve is different than the Pentax for sure but it seems
pretty capable.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#306845274_4Hz6h-XL-LB

Walt

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(*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
I went to Radio Shack to buy parts to build myself a cable release
for the *istD.  They had submini phone plugs, but only mono, not
TRS, and it turns out that shorting ring to sleeve keeps the 
autofocus constantly activated (which I presume costs battery life).

And they didn't have cheap IR LEDs to make an invisible flash with,
either.  Though there was a spot marked for them in the drawer.
*pout*  (Unsurprisingly, they didn't have PC connectors either,
so I'll probably look for the cheapest PC-cord accessory I can 
find and snip the plug off it when I do build the invisible flash.)

Question:  when emulating a locking cable release for long exposures,
should I disengage the autofocus connection once the shutter is open,
or does the camera automagically do that internally?  (Or should I
just not worry about the battery drain of having the autofocus system
powered while the mirror is up?  Is the cost of holding the shutter
open high enough to swamp having the autofocus powered?  I've no idea
what aspets of the camera's operation cost how much juice, but I'm
guessing that electromechanical aspects -- and lighting the LCD 
backlight -- cost more than purely electronic operations ... right?)

-- Glenn, starting to wonder
   how much an *istD repair 
   manual would tell me about
   the electronics.

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RE: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
never really thought about it 'cause I aint into AF but do ANY AF
systems stay active once the shutter opens?  Why?

JC OCONNELL
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.


I went to Radio Shack to buy parts to build myself a cable release for the
*istD.  They had submini phone plugs, but only mono, not TRS, and it turns
out that shorting ring to sleeve keeps the 
autofocus constantly activated (which I presume costs battery life).

And they didn't have cheap IR LEDs to make an invisible flash with, either.
Though there was a spot marked for them in the drawer.
*pout*  (Unsurprisingly, they didn't have PC connectors either, so I'll
probably look for the cheapest PC-cord accessory I can 
find and snip the plug off it when I do build the invisible flash.)

Question:  when emulating a locking cable release for long exposures, should
I disengage the autofocus connection once the shutter is open, or does the
camera automagically do that internally?  (Or should I just not worry about
the battery drain of having the autofocus system powered while the mirror is
up?  Is the cost of holding the shutter open high enough to swamp having the
autofocus powered?  I've no idea what aspets of the camera's operation cost
how much juice, but I'm guessing that electromechanical aspects -- and
lighting the LCD 
backlight -- cost more than purely electronic operations ... right?)

-- Glenn, starting to wonder
   how much an *istD repair 
   manual would tell me about
   the electronics.

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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
I've seen off-brand shutter release units on ebay for less than ten bucks.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
 I went to Radio Shack to buy parts to build myself a cable release
 for the *istD.  They had submini phone plugs, but only mono, not
 TRS, and it turns out that shorting ring to sleeve keeps the 
 autofocus constantly activated (which I presume costs battery life).
 
 And they didn't have cheap IR LEDs to make an invisible flash with,
 either.  Though there was a spot marked for them in the drawer.
 *pout*  (Unsurprisingly, they didn't have PC connectors either,
 so I'll probably look for the cheapest PC-cord accessory I can 
 find and snip the plug off it when I do build the invisible flash.)
 
 Question:  when emulating a locking cable release for long exposures,
 should I disengage the autofocus connection once the shutter is open,
 or does the camera automagically do that internally?  (Or should I
 just not worry about the battery drain of having the autofocus system
 powered while the mirror is up?  Is the cost of holding the shutter
 open high enough to swamp having the autofocus powered?  I've no idea
 what aspets of the camera's operation cost how much juice, but I'm
 guessing that electromechanical aspects -- and lighting the LCD 
 backlight -- cost more than purely electronic operations ... right?)
 
   -- Glenn, starting to wonder
  how much an *istD repair 
  manual would tell me about
  the electronics.
 
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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wondered:
 never really thought about it 'cause I aint into AF but do ANY AF
 systems stay active once the shutter opens?  Why?

I don't know where the AF sensors are, but I'm betting that they're
in the prism ... if I'm right (sanity check anyone?) then AF can't
be _effective_ with the mirror up, but may or may not still be turned
on despite not being able to do anything.

Though now you've got me wondering about AF systems in non-SLR 
bodies, and how your question applies to those.

(By the way, I was trying to sneak up on a bug earlier, and in
the process I discovered that the autofocus didn't want to work
when too much light was coming in through the viewfinder.  I had
the camera away from my face, and the darn thing wouldn't fire
even though I'd had trap focus working just fine seconds earlier.
Then I waved my thumb over the viewfinder and the shutter fired.
Innnteresting.)

If I were naively designing a DSLR, I might not bother de-powering
the AF subsystem during an exposure because the time involved would
be too short to really worry about (unless the AF could become
confused while the shutter was open and try to shift focus during
the shot), but on 'bulb', the times are a lot longer, and Pentax
designers are not naive.  So I wanna know what they did.  (And
whether it happens upstream or downsteam of the cable-release
conector -- i.e. whether it works automagically or the cable release
has to fake it.)

-- Glenn

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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] observed:
 I've seen off-brand shutter release units on ebay for less than ten bucks.

#blink#  Well that certainly changes my cost-benefit analysis.

-- Glenn, headin' for eBay


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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread Rick Womer
The AF sensors are on the floor of the mirror box. 
The metering sensors are in the prism housing.

--- D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I don't know where the AF sensors are, but I'm
 betting that they're
 in the prism ... if I'm right (sanity check anyone?)
 then AF can't
 be _effective_ with the mirror up, but may or may
 not still be turned
 on despite not being able to do anything.
 
 Though now you've got me wondering about AF systems
 in non-SLR 
 bodies, and how your question applies to those.
 
 (By the way, I was trying to sneak up on a bug
 earlier, and in
 the process I discovered that the autofocus didn't
 want to work
 when too much light was coming in through the
 viewfinder.  I had
 the camera away from my face, and the darn thing
 wouldn't fire
 even though I'd had trap focus working just fine
 seconds earlier.
 Then I waved my thumb over the viewfinder and the
 shutter fired.
 Innnteresting.)
 
 If I were naively designing a DSLR, I might not
 bother de-powering
 the AF subsystem during an exposure because the time
 involved would
 be too short to really worry about (unless the AF
 could become
 confused while the shutter was open and try to shift
 focus during
 the shot), but on 'bulb', the times are a lot
 longer, and Pentax
 designers are not naive.  So I wanna know what they
 did.  (And
 whether it happens upstream or downsteam of the
 cable-release
 conector -- i.e. whether it works automagically or
 the cable release
 has to fake it.)
 
   -- Glenn
 
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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread Mat Maessen
On 6/3/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed:
  I've seen off-brand shutter release units on ebay for less than ten bucks.
 #blink#  Well that certainly changes my cost-benefit analysis.

Look for a remote shutter release for a Canon Digital Rebel. Works
fine on my DS, should work fine on the D as well. I think I paid $13
for mine including shipping.

-Mat

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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread pnstenquist
Yep, they're the same. The one i bought was tagged as for both Canon and Pentax.
Paul
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From: Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 6/3/08, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed:
   I've seen off-brand shutter release units on ebay for less than ten bucks.
  #blink#  Well that certainly changes my cost-benefit analysis.
 
 Look for a remote shutter release for a Canon Digital Rebel. Works
 fine on my DS, should work fine on the D as well. I think I paid $13
 for mine including shipping.
 
 -Mat
 
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Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair

2008-06-03 Thread Mark Erickson
I hate to be a buzzkill, but

I sent an FA* 300mm F4.5 lens back to Colorado for repair a few years ago.
It came back to me horrible mis-calibrated (blurry at all apertures), so I
sent it back.  The second time I got it back it was dialed in and very
sharp.

I sent my DA* 16-50 back this spring due to uneven sharpness across the
frame.  It came back worse than when I sent it.  So it's back in Colorado
again.  I'm hoping it comes back in better condition.

Maybe I'm a second time's the charm guy


Jack wrote:

 Nor I, Paul.
 
 Jack
 
 
  Ken wrote:
  
   
   Same here Paul.
   
  
   Paul wrote:
I've never had a bad service experience with Pentax  
Colorado. It seems they know what they're doing.
Paul


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RE: K10D Back from Pentax Repair

2008-06-03 Thread J. C. O'Connell
As I have posted before, this NEVER existed in the PENTAX screwmount
era, EVERY lens was tested TWICE, once in JAPAN and again in USA
before being sold in USA. Thats often overlooked, anyone can
design modern lenses, building them and quality controlling
them is another issue altogether. Thats why todays lenses
are as cheap as they are, they dont take the time and labor
to test them like they used to. Its also why many people still
prefer to use older lenses. They are a known good for the most
part unless you come across one thats been serviced and poorly serviced.

JC OCONNELL
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Erickson
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:13 AM
To: PDML
Subject: Re: K10D Back from Pentax Repair


I hate to be a buzzkill, but

I sent an FA* 300mm F4.5 lens back to Colorado for repair a few years ago.
It came back to me horrible mis-calibrated (blurry at all apertures), so I
sent it back.  The second time I got it back it was dialed in and very
sharp.

I sent my DA* 16-50 back this spring due to uneven sharpness across the
frame.  It came back worse than when I sent it.  So it's back in Colorado
again.  I'm hoping it comes back in better condition.

Maybe I'm a second time's the charm guy


Jack wrote:

 Nor I, Paul.
 
 Jack
 
 
  Ken wrote:
  
   
   Same here Paul.
   
  
   Paul wrote:
I've never had a bad service experience with Pentax
Colorado. It seems they know what they're doing.
Paul


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Re: used lens prices got you down? Got a special event coming up?

2008-06-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh joy...

Cory Waters wrote:
 http://atlanta.craigslist.org/pho/706393605.html

 sheesh...

 CW


   


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Re: (*istD questions) Argh. Near miss of a different sort.

2008-06-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The cable remote release is just a two circuit switch. One switch  
turns on the meter and focusing system, the other trips the shutter.

But you can buy the Canon Remote Switch RS-60E3 from BH Photo for  
$25 that works perfectly as a replacement for the $40 Pentax CS-201,  
or go to Ebay and find the same thing made in China for $4.

I personally wouldn't waste the time to make one.

Godfrey

On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:15 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

 I went to Radio Shack to buy parts to build myself a cable release
 for the *istD.  They had submini phone plugs, but only mono, not
 TRS, and it turns out that shorting ring to sleeve keeps the
 autofocus constantly activated (which I presume costs battery life).

 And they didn't have cheap IR LEDs to make an invisible flash with,
 either.  Though there was a spot marked for them in the drawer.
 *pout*  (Unsurprisingly, they didn't have PC connectors either,
 so I'll probably look for the cheapest PC-cord accessory I can
 find and snip the plug off it when I do build the invisible flash.)

 Question:  when emulating a locking cable release for long exposures,
 should I disengage the autofocus connection once the shutter is open,
 or does the camera automagically do that internally?  (Or should I
 just not worry about the battery drain of having the autofocus system
 powered while the mirror is up?  Is the cost of holding the shutter
 open high enough to swamp having the autofocus powered?  I've no idea
 what aspets of the camera's operation cost how much juice, but I'm
 guessing that electromechanical aspects -- and lighting the LCD
 backlight -- cost more than purely electronic operations ... right?)

   -- Glenn, starting to wonder
  how much an *istD repair
  manual would tell me about
  the electronics.


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