RE: PUG gallery usability
Hi Scott - I'm using IE7, version 7.30.5730.11, on XP SP3 and have had no problems with the gallery. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Loveless Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PUG gallery usability Howdy. Anyone having problems seeing the PUG? Or have you noticed any issues with particular browsers? I've tested the gallery a few times with Firefox 2 and 3, Opera 9.something and IE6 on a Windows box, and Firefox 3 and Opera 9.52 on my Linux machine. Recent feedback indicates that the IE8 beta doesn't like the PUG very much, but this could just be beta issues or Microsoft shenanigans. I'd like to hear from folks running IE7 or IE8 on Windows specifically and Mac users in general. Thanks a bunch! -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, PA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: North By Northwest
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:29 AM, frank theriault wrote: I know it's counter-intuitive, but helmets actually increase risk-taking behaviour. Since they were wearing helmets they thought they were invincible, and so considered copulating on a railroad track before an oncoming train to be a risk worth taking. Hmm, every time I've crashed on my bike I've been wearing a helmet. So if I stop wearing helmets I won't crash anymore! - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New office
On Sep 25, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Bob W wrote: They utilise it re idea shower loop back situations when they touch base offline about the secretary's delivery pipeline and the boss's low-hanging fruit. Someone's in line for a promotion. Now wash your mouth out. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photography is a waste of time. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - oats
Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Official, details on Dpreview
Bob is the product of millenia of cultural advancement, from grunting Neanderthals to Sir Isaaac Newton rubbing his sore head and beyond. That sort of stuff doesn't come in a paper tube. It comes in a glass. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/24 Wed PM 05:26:52 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Official, details on Dpreview Bob W wrote: snip I think I really want some of what Bob is smoking... My cleaner's Bulgarian and she always puts my forks back in the wrong drawer. I don't think she knows what they are. The Chinese invented forks in 27,000 BC during the Tang dynasty, but their use as food implements was not discovered until the middle of the Third Kingdom of Aethereal Blessings, when the Grand Yang had entered it's ninth Charm. Before that they had been used as ceremonial halberds by the Chipmunk Guard. When all the chipmunks died following the Killer Rice Plague of Yuan Dong Ho people found it very convenient to use the forks to barbecue the tiny beasties. Parents learned from their children to eat the carbonised flesh directly from the forks and lo! a cutlery was born. Bob -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
Works for me. I've been trying similar stuff with the new camera the last couple of days. Cheers, Dave 2008/9/25 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/24 Wed PM 07:12:24 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? My father is also dead, but he wasn't a dentist. [...] So other than the dentist thing, our fathers have something in common... Mine too - that's an incredible coincidence! Maybe we're long-lost half-brothers. I think I'm beginning to suffer from Parental Mortality Exclusion Syndrome. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:36:10 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photography is a waste of time. Hmmm. I'm sure there was an M word in there when it left here. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
I like the subtlety of the mix. Other versions? From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:43:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - oats Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: North By Northwest
David Mann a écrit : On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:29 AM, frank theriault wrote: I know it's counter-intuitive, but helmets actually increase risk-taking behaviour. Since they were wearing helmets they thought they were invincible, and so considered copulating on a railroad track before an oncoming train to be a risk worth taking. Hmm, every time I've crashed on my bike I've been wearing a helmet. So if I stop wearing helmets I won't crash anymore! - Dave you wont .. you'll be dead !;P dom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
2008/9/25 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:36:10 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photography is a waste of time. Hmmm. I'm sure there was an M word in there when it left here. Moron? :-D Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
Well seen, Jostein. Tiny nits; even though the background is nicely OOF, ideally it could have been even softer. Oat shape is extremely nice, but can't help wishing I could see a little less stem. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - oats To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 1:43 AM Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 10:27:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? 2008/9/25 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/09/25 Thu AM 08:36:10 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photography is a waste of time. Hmmm. I'm sure there was an M word in there when it left here. Moron? Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Specific Prohibition
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
Jostein, I love the lighting of the oats, but find the horizon distracting. The blue of the sky or the tan of the fields would be a better background. The strong three bands behind the oats is pulling my attention away from the oats. Were you trying for something special there? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:43 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote: *IST D, K10D did ... at least got closer than the Leica does. How can you tell? It's just a prototype at present. G Well, let me re-phrase: *IST D, K10D do ... at least get closer than what is claimed for the Leica prototype. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Bypass Stump
Took another turn around the Sutter Buttes and along what's called the Bypass. It's used to meter high river water flow during our heavy winter rains. Drove by this location and back again twice before deciding to drive down off the levee (4-wheel drive) and into the wild land area near this access point. It's obvious that I should have mounted a polarizing filter or, at least, gone back later in the day, due to bad sun angle. Can do both if thought worth it. Any Comments appreciated. Jack K10D, small 3001 Bogen tripod w/Bogen mini ballQR, f/16, 1/20, 34mm ISO 200 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=332 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - oats
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein Well lit subject, but the background is too far out of focus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
Well, the fill flash does make itself known. It certainly dims the background a bit - kind of gives a contrast boost to the oats. I think I would like to see just a bit less flash and a slight boost to the background light. Hope you did lots of experiments. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, September 25, 2008, 1:43:25 AM, you wrote: A Playing with fill-flash... A What say you? A In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html A Direct to (larger) image: A http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg A Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 A Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
Funny sign. I gotta believe that all they would need to do is fold the handle down on the mower and the dogs would quit seeing it as a target... -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, September 25, 2008, 6:58:07 AM, you wrote: ft http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html ft Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... ft cheers, ft frank ft ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon 5D MKII video
Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend tells me that the RED people are also working on an DSLR. Who are the RED people? They make the RED camera. More like they market the upcoming RED camera. There's a very fine line between makers and marketers these days... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
I agree with this! Especially when I'm next door mowing my lawn. 8( Good catch, Frank. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Specific Prohibition To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 6:58 AM http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lighthouse Steps
Doug wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:30 PM, David Savage wrote: 2008/9/25 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/23 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for the lighthouse steps, I have to admit that I'm a sucker for things nautical. Must be my Nova Scotia heritage. So you like boots then? Wearing them or looking at them? Sailing them ;-) Dave what are you talking aboat? A sail boot... -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Interesting take on the big crunch
for those times, when it is raining outside (or its equivalent) and you have absolutely nothing else to do a bit long... but i personally enjoyed reading it, though i am not a 'financial' guy http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html When Nassim Taleb talks about the limits of statistics, he becomes outraged. My outrage, he says, is aimed at the scientist-charlatan putting society at risk using statistical methods. This is similar to iatrogenics, the study of the doctor putting the patient at risk. As a researcher in probability, he has some credibility. In 2006, using FNMA and bank risk managers as his prime perpetrators, he wrote the following: The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events unlikely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: North By Northwest
Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7629433.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big. - Theodore Roosevelt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
AlunFoto wrote: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? I say I think I'll make oatmeal for breakfast Lovely shot, J ann In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
Photography is a waste of time. Especially if you use too long a shutter speed. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2? From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photography is a waste of time. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
What Jack said. Although stem length doesn't bother me Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - oats Well seen, Jostein. Tiny nits; even though the background is nicely OOF, ideally it could have been even softer. Oat shape is extremely nice, but can't help wishing I could see a little less stem. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - oats To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 1:43 AM Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: North By Northwest
I think it deserves a Darwin with oak leaf clusters... Gonz wrote: Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7629433.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
As is all too often the case, my message was not that clear. :/ What I intended was that had the stem been slightly shorter, the seed head would have been slightly further to the right. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - oats To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:59 AM What Jack said. Although stem length doesn't bother me Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - oats Well seen, Jostein. Tiny nits; even though the background is nicely OOF, ideally it could have been even softer. Oat shape is extremely nice, but can't help wishing I could see a little less stem. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - oats To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 1:43 AM Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting take on the big crunch
Subash, Thanks, that's an excellent and timely article for those with a math or financial background. It puts the current woes of the financial system into perspective. Give me redundant and non-optimized systems! I also liked the author's bio in the Times. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article4022091.ece I've got to get the Black Swans book. Regards, Bob S. (reformed mathematician) On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Subash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those times, when it is raining outside (or its equivalent) and you have absolutely nothing else to do a bit long... but i personally enjoyed reading it, though i am not a 'financial' guy http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html When Nassim Taleb talks about the limits of statistics, he becomes outraged. My outrage, he says, is aimed at the scientist-charlatan putting society at risk using statistical methods. This is similar to iatrogenics, the study of the doctor putting the patient at risk. As a researcher in probability, he has some credibility. In 2006, using FNMA and bank risk managers as his prime perpetrators, he wrote the following: The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events unlikely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote: *IST D, K10D did ... at least got closer than the Leica does. How can you tell? It's just a prototype at present. G Well, let me re-phrase: *IST D, K10D do ... at least get closer than what is claimed for the Leica prototype. lol And ... I visited my friends at the local commercial/high end photo outlet today as I hadn't been in to say hello for a couple of months. One of the owners is at Photokina, the other was at her desk. We spent a half hour talking about business and stuff. Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is too expensive for pro photographers and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been waiting for exactly this kind of kit to become available. Come on, Pentax: Get that P645D out there! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: How was your day at the office, dear?
Mine was... http://www.web-options.com/pants.jpg Bob (photo by one of my colleagues) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Trading my PKA Dental Macro for a PKA 50/1.2?
My father is also dead, but he wasn't a dentist. [...] So other than the dentist thing, our fathers have something in common... Mine too - that's an incredible coincidence! Maybe we're long-lost half-brothers. I think I'm beginning to suffer from Parental Mortality Exclusion Syndrome. Call me. Oedipus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
1.The mandate of any school system, public or private, is to EDUCATE our children. 2.The level of education MUST be such that our children have what is necessary to compete in the REAL world. 3.It is NOT the job of ANY school system, public or private, to adjust the truth concerning student performance to meet some local curve chosen using rather dubious assumptions. The standard is the REAL world. 3.After the students graduate, they will automatically be judged: - in the community, - in their search for higher education, - in their school of higher education - if they can get in, - in their competition for employment, - in their performance on their job by a curve that represents not just their community, but the entire country and also the best of many other countries. 4.It's just not ethical to cheat students, their parents and their community out of a realistic assessment of their preparedness for adult life. 5.FYI, the REAL curve is often bimodal. The result of cheating students out of a real assessment of their preparedness for life is to fill the world with dependent fools. The just desert for those who cheat them and for those who abet in this process is to later be governed by the fools they've created. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Based on my ten years of experience teaching in inner city Chicago high schools, I'd say it's a realistic policy. Percentages alone mean nothing. The curriculum should be based on real needs, and the success ratio has to come close to resembling a bell curve. The alternative is little or no success for any student. It's a fact of life. Doesn't make me puke. Paul On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: OK, so this isn't photo related at all. Try not to puke. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08266/914029-298.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Specific Prohibition
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... cheers, frank ;-) Indeed. Equally the local canids might see it as leave to poo on the aforementioned mowers. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
Pretty much... Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like typical product of left wing nut jobs trying to make the children feel inclusive. Wait till they fail later in life, inclusivity will not be an option. Sure. [skipped] Then you can blame the left some more. 'Cause that's all the left is good for is blaming. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
Dave, Mike, Jack, Bob S., Ken, Bruce, John S., Ann, Thanks for taking time to comment! The decision to pop the flash in the first place was to mute the background relative to the straw. As some of you remarked, it's not all together unobtrusive still. It is just another one of those situations where I thought I had a good idea, and wasn't quite able to execute it the envisioned way. My other attempts falls short of that too, but I'll have another look next time I sit down by my desktop PC, Hopefully Tuesday or Wednesday... :-) Off to chase the colours of autumn for a couple of days. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Interesting take on the big crunch
I thought everybody had seen this coming, including the bankers. Everybody knew that someday the debts would be called in and the music would stop. They were just gambling that they wouldn't be holding the ticking parcel when the time came. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subash Sent: 25 September 2008 16:04 To: PDML Subject: OT: Interesting take on the big crunch for those times, when it is raining outside (or its equivalent) and you have absolutely nothing else to do a bit long... but i personally enjoyed reading it, though i am not a 'financial' guy http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/taleb08/taleb08_index.html When Nassim Taleb talks about the limits of statistics, he becomes outraged. My outrage, he says, is aimed at the scientist-charlatan putting society at risk using statistical methods. This is similar to iatrogenics, the study of the doctor putting the patient at risk. As a researcher in probability, he has some credibility. In 2006, using FNMA and bank risk managers as his prime perpetrators, he wrote the following: The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events unlikely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Stone Age Photographer
Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cossacks
http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/664/161/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Farmacia
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RE: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
lol And ... I visited my friends at the local commercial/high end photo outlet today as I hadn't been in to say hello for a couple of months. One of the owners is at Photokina, the other was at her desk. We spent a half hour talking about business and stuff. Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is too expensive for pro photographers and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been waiting for exactly this kind of kit to become available. Come on, Pentax: Get that P645D out there! http://www.s.leica-camera.com/ I think it's a beautiful-looking camera - clean lines, simple, plain - Bauhaus meets Shaker. If I had that kind of money I'd buy one. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stone Age Photographer
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stone Age Photographer
I saw an exhibit Of Tichy's works and cameras at the Zurich Kunsthaus three years ago. A few of the images were interesting, many were mundane. His cameras were, however, enormously fascinating. Dan M On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is too expensive for pro photographers and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been waiting for exactly this kind of kit to become available. Heck, it'll probably be a bit over $30k in the U.S. If it's competitive with other MF digital systems (and I certainly expect it to be) they'll sell quite a few. Just think: In that market you can now get the Leica name *without* paying more than you would for one of the competing brands! :) Don't think I'll be one of the buyers though... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Don't think I'll be one of the buyers though... Whether I'll be one of the buyers depends on where my photography goes. Right now, that's not my direction. But there's nothing to say that it won't be in a year or two. I don't like to put too many boundaries on where my work might take me. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
Wow. I wonder what drug(s) they were on? John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto Original Message Subject: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, September 25, 2008 12:22 pm To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stone Age Photographer
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Bob W wrote: Is this the new Leica S2? http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/658/200/ I think it's the Leica Sminus1, actually. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
they will certainly have consulted a great many very serious photographers about the design and functionality of this camera. Remember how many M cameras they tested and gave away to people in Magnum over the years. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the biggest names in photography had been involved in this in some capacity. I wonder what happened to the S1, or are they continuing the M tradition of non-sequential numbering? Bob Heck, it'll probably be a bit over $30k in the U.S. If it's competitive with other MF digital systems (and I certainly expect it to be) they'll sell quite a few. Just think: In that market you can now get the Leica name *without* paying more than you would for one of the competing brands! :) Don't think I'll be one of the buyers though... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is the honestly Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded reasons for their belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and 'Progressives' who seem to prefer a neo-aristocratic system of feel good measures, where everything must be right if the right people with the right attitudes are pushing the right programs, irrespective of whether there's any basis in reality for any of those three suppositions. I respect the former very much. The latter are a big problem as reality doesn't affect them much. -- I think you're over-simplifying things just a tad. :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork
I know I've been hitting you guys with a lot of Bikeporn PESOs this week, but I popped into the Jet Fuel Cafe on Sunday. It's kind of a hangout for cyclists, but since Sunday was Car-free Day (I don't know if that was a local or international thing) there was even more than the usual amount of eye candy on view. Ernesto Colnago has been making beautiful bikes for a long time now, but this steel-framed beauty caught my eye: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html My camera got a good workout! Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: funny item on ebay
P. J. Alling wrote: Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake, they'll find whole new mistakes to make... details :-) basically, I was just trying to bring home the gravity to Frank... not that I'd know the diffrence between the reason for the 1929 disaster and the current one , mind you ann ann sanfedele wrote: the keywords are Lehman Bros - and tax contribution This is the company that just went belly up here... and the buzz about the US tax payers bearing the brunt of the so-called bail out. In the early 90's this wall street giant was very stable I'm sure someone more savvy to all this stuff could explain it better but basically, welcome to 1929 ann frank theriault wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/3l2qch or not Yeah, it is my listing - a little something I found at my local thrift store a couple of days ago... For those of you who share my warped sense of humor. ann Perhaps it's my nationality, or just my own personal ignorance, but I don't get it... :-) cheers, frank, who still has the Beeriodic Table t-shirt you gave me many years ago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Sight and price unseen, they've got 10-15 firm pre-orders for the Leica S2 already. So ... anyone cogitating that this is too expensive for pro photographers and would not sell, think again. Evidently, a lot of commercial photographers have been waiting for exactly this kind of kit to become available. Heck, it'll probably be a bit over $30k in the U.S. If it's competitive with other MF digital systems (and I certainly expect it to be) they'll sell quite a few. Just think: In that market you can now get the Leica name *without* paying more than you would for one of the competing brands! :) From where I'm standing, Leica looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that Hasselblad seems at least as big. Also, like I said elsewhere, there seems to be a budget variant with a spec nearly on the same level (31Mp sensor, I think) giving you the latter name now. But I suppose this doesn't really count for the ones with too much money between their hands that we are talking about here... But what do I know. I didn't really think a digital Leica M made any sense, either, yet a lot of people seem to be awfully exited about it. - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: North By Northwest
From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this qualify for a Darwin award (double no less)? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes people take the closing scene just a bit too literally... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7629433.stm Bob As long as neither has previously spawned offspring. Should qualify otherwise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein Quite lovely, Jostein! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is the honestly Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded reasons for their belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and 'Progressives' who seem to prefer a neo-aristocratic system of feel good measures, where everything must be right if the right people with the right attitudes are pushing the right programs, irrespective of whether there's any basis in reality for any of those three suppositions. I respect the former very much. The latter are a big problem as reality doesn't affect them much. -- I think you're over-simplifying things just a tad. Absolutely. There's the Socialist Left. The Left Socialists. The Left Wing Socialists. The Socialist Left Wing. The Trotskyites. The Reformed Trotskyites. The Reformed Left Trotskyites. The Anti-Trotskyite Marxist Front. The Marxist Liberationists (Trotskyite Wing). The Militant Left Wing Anti-Marxist Leninist Front. The People's Front for Left Wing Liberation. The Anti-Nazi Left Liberationists. The Popular Front for People's Liberation Army. The Provisional Trotskyite Front for People's Freedom. The Provisional Marxist Front for Palestine. The People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Judea... And that's just the moderates... Citizen Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New grip for K10D K20D body
Maybe old news... Has anyone tried this: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1003/foto_news.php If you want Pentax installs a new shell with a new grip on your old body??? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, Leica looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that Hasselblad seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So they have no name in medium format camera circles. Digital cameras are not really medium format cameras, however, and the only names in that marketplace, to date, are Hasselblad/Fuji, PhaseOne, and Leaf/Rollei. That makes it a pretty nice market with only a few competitors, selling only pretty high-end gear, all of which is, by definition, pretty new. Established leadership there is up for grabs. I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Some fall with D-range 200%
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080925222659 ^^^ While shooting landscapes or in forest D-range can be very useful addition. I wonder why it doesn't work with ISO 100 though. Newest Pentax K-m has shadow enhancement in addition to highlights for EDR. Hopefully next Pentax DSLR would have more customizable options rather than plain D-range On/Off... But in its limited effect it's very useful function to advance K20D image quality in tricky lighting situations. Then beyond K20D, ufraw lensfun library can defish source lense designated as fisheye to rectilinear lense target. It looks a bit of holga after reversing fisheye curvature. Your comments are appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, Leica looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that Hasselblad seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So they have no name in medium format camera circles. Digital cameras are not really medium format cameras, however, and the only names in that marketplace, to date, are Hasselblad/Fuji, PhaseOne, and Leaf/Rollei. That makes it a pretty nice market with only a few competitors, selling only pretty high-end gear, all of which is, by definition, pretty new. Established leadership there is up for grabs. I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. G Not true. Leica made a 25MP S1 with a 5140x5140 sensor. Rather rare, admittedly. http://burlington.craigslist.org/bfs/844376362.html Hence the new camera's name is S2 D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork
Not moved much by the subject matter, but I do appreciate your well done exposure and conversion skills. Jack --- On Thu, 9/25/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:54 PM I know I've been hitting you guys with a lot of Bikeporn PESOs this week, but I popped into the Jet Fuel Cafe on Sunday. It's kind of a hangout for cyclists, but since Sunday was Car-free Day (I don't know if that was a local or international thing) there was even more than the usual amount of eye candy on view. Ernesto Colnago has been making beautiful bikes for a long time now, but this steel-framed beauty caught my eye: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html My camera got a good workout! Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. Not just business reasons for the delay; I think they needed the market to settle down in terms of equipment requirements. Remember the original 645D was supposed to be 18 megapixels. That looked silly pretty quickly, (regardless of the folly of comparing MF and 35mm systems by counting pixels - it's all in the marketing). It gradually moved up as the 35mm full-frame cameras went to 16 megapixels and more. Perhaps things have settled down enough now that they may be ready to have a go at it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork
frank theriault wrote: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html M. Italian bicycle! Regards, Mark Roberts, Pinarello owner ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New grip for K10D K20D body
On Sep 25, 2008, at 15:46, Toine wrote: Maybe old news... Has anyone tried this: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1003/foto_news.php If you want Pentax installs a new shell with a new grip on your old body??? What is the point/benefit? Looks like there is an indentation on the front by where the IR receiver is - is that it? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: funny item on ebay
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] P. J. Alling wrote: Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake, they'll find whole new mistakes to make... details :-) basically, I was just trying to bring home the gravity to Frank... not that I'd know the diffrence between the reason for the 1929 disaster and the current one , mind you ann Unfortunately, the current U.S. government doesn't know any more about it than you do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some fall with D-range 200%
The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Melihhov Sent: 25 September 2008 21:51 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Some fall with D-range 200% http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080925222659 ^^^ While shooting landscapes or in forest D-range can be very useful addition. I wonder why it doesn't work with ISO 100 though. Newest Pentax K-m has shadow enhancement in addition to highlights for EDR. Hopefully next Pentax DSLR would have more customizable options rather than plain D-range On/Off... But in its limited effect it's very useful function to advance K20D image quality in tricky lighting situations. Then beyond K20D, ufraw lensfun library can defish source lense designated as fisheye to rectilinear lense target. It looks a bit of holga after reversing fisheye curvature. Your comments are appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
That's all well in good in theory. But there are times when pragmatic decisions must be made. I taught ninth grade in a Chicago inner city high school. If I had taught the curriculum as provided by the board of education and failed anyone who didn't achieve 70%, NO ONE would have made it beyond ninth grace, and the school would have become non- functional. Sometimes you have to deal with the reality of the situation you're confronted with. Paul On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: 1.The mandate of any school system, public or private, is to EDUCATE our children. 2.The level of education MUST be such that our children have what is necessary to compete in the REAL world. 3.It is NOT the job of ANY school system, public or private, to adjust the truth concerning student performance to meet some local curve chosen using rather dubious assumptions. The standard is the REAL world. 3.After the students graduate, they will automatically be judged: - in the community, - in their search for higher education, - in their school of higher education - if they can get in, - in their competition for employment, - in their performance on their job by a curve that represents not just their community, but theentire country and also the best of many other countries. 4.It's just not ethical to cheat students, their parents and their community out of a realistic assessment of their preparedness for adult life. 5.FYI, the REAL curve is often bimodal. The result of cheating students out of a real assessment of their preparedness for life is to fill the world with dependent fools. The just desert for those who cheat them and for those who abet in this process is to later be governed by the fools they've created. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Based on my ten years of experience teaching in inner city Chicago high schools, I'd say it's a realistic policy. Percentages alone mean nothing. The curriculum should be based on real needs, and the success ratio has to come close to resembling a bell curve. The alternative is little or no success for any student. It's a fact of life. Doesn't make me puke. Paul On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: OK, so this isn't photo related at all. Try not to puke. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08266/914029-298.stm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Either that or... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/lawnmowers.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: funny item on ebay
John Sessoms wrote: From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] P. J. Alling wrote: Not quite 1929, the great depression was caused by a liquidity crisis, but the Government didn't understand that and actually made it worse. Today I doubt that the Federal Reserve will make the same mistake, they'll find whole new mistakes to make... details :-) basically, I was just trying to bring home the gravity to Frank... not that I'd know the diffrence between the reason for the 1929 disaster and the current one , mind you Unfortunately, the current U.S. government doesn't know any more about it than you do. Ah yes, but look at the new concept they've invented: Socialized Capitalism! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seriously OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.The mandate of any school system, public or private, is to EDUCATE our children. 2.The level of education MUST be such that our children have what is necessary to compete in the REAL world. 3.It is NOT the job of ANY school system, public or private, to adjust the truth concerning student performance to meet some local curve chosen using rather dubious assumptions. The standard is the REAL world. 3.After the students graduate, they will automatically be judged: - in the community, - in their search for higher education, - in their school of higher education - if they can get in, - in their competition for employment, - in their performance on their job by a curve that represents not just their community, but the entire country and also the best of many other countries. 4.It's just not ethical to cheat students, their parents and their community out of a realistic assessment of their preparedness for adult life. 5.FYI, the REAL curve is often bimodal. The result of cheating students out of a real assessment of their preparedness for life is to fill the world with dependent fools. The just desert for those who cheat them and for those who abet in this process is to later be governed by the fools they've created. Do you really think that school prepares students for the real world? I've known idiots who still graduated with outstanding marks. I've known people who barely got through school (or didn't!) that have succeeded mightily in the real world. While real marks may in some way, in some cases, be predictors of performance in the workplace, the fact is that school grades or class ranking only give HR execs something to hang their hat on when their hireling fizzles: Hey, he was top of his class, great GPA, who knew he'd swindle the bank for millions? Please don't fire me, I covered my ass! cheers, frank the cynic -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
Bob W wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm Geez. English cops are still using film cameras? D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Either that or... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/lawnmowers.jpg Yes, well, that's quite humourous, Mark, but it's clearly a PS effort: the letters you added appear in focus and aren't over-sharpened like the rest of the photo... ;-) In fact, that sign was on a vet clinic which is right next door to large appliance place that sells (you guessed it) lawnmowers, which are displayed (cable-locked together) in their parking lot. I guess the dogs get pretty excited seeing that large pissoir as they leave the clinic, bladders full-to-bursting... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez. English cops are still using film cameras? Nikons, it would seem... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html M. Italian bicycle! Well, Mark, I know you have an Italian CF frame, and as you know I have an Italian aluminium frame, but there are few things more beautiful in bikeworld than an exquisite Italian lugged steel frame... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mama's taking Kodachrome away
Has anyone posted this yet? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Anyone ever use these guys?
I've been kind of down in the dumps lately and not inspired to take any photographs. I got the bright idea to Google something like daily photography assignments thinking I might find some ideas to motivate myself. One of the hits I got was for this site: http://picturestock.com/index.php Anyone ever deal with these people, or know anyone who has? I'd like to find out if they're honest before signing on with them. It looks like it might pay a little bit if it's true, but it also looks like it has a potential to be a rip-off. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone posted this yet? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html Sad. Inevitable, I suppose, but still sad. cheers, frank, who hasn't had a roll of TriX developed in over a year :-( -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Either that or... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/lawnmowers.jpg Yes, well, that's quite humourous, Mark, but it's clearly a PS effort: the letters you added appear in focus and aren't over-sharpened like the rest of the photo... ;-) In fact, that sign was on a vet clinic which is right next door to large appliance place that sells (you guessed it) lawnmowers, which are displayed (cable-locked together) in their parking lot. I guess the dogs get pretty excited seeing that large pissoir as they leave the clinic, bladders full-to-bursting... My bad. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/lawnmower2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away
frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone posted this yet? http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/09/22/kodakchrome.fading.ap/index.html Sad. Inevitable, I suppose, but still sad. cheers, frank, who hasn't had a roll of TriX developed in over a year I always preferred Ilford HP-5 but I'll miss Tri-X when it goes. I won't miss Kodachrome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: From where I'm standing, Leica looks like much less of a name in the MF market than in 35mm, comparatively speaking. Meaning that Hasselblad seems at least as big. Leica never made a medium format film camera. So they have no name in medium format camera circles. No, of course not. What I mean to say is that it seems to me that in camera circles in general (or whatever you call it), Hasselblad has the same kind of name as Leica - unlike any of Leica's current competitors in the smaller-format market. Digital cameras are not really medium format cameras, however, The term medium format is quite arbitrary in any case, isn't it? I believe the distinction between medium and small format has been kept at least to a certain degree in terms of market segment as well as the negative format, though - i.e. digital cameras from traditional medium format vendors have larger sensors than the ones that descended from 35mm bodies, and are sold to some of the same people. and the only names in that marketplace, to date, are Hasselblad/Fuji, PhaseOne, and Leaf/Rollei. I think there may be a couple more, but never mind that. That makes it a pretty nice market with only a few competitors, selling only pretty high-end gear, all of which is, by definition, pretty new. Established leadership there is up for grabs. Maybe. I don't know that much about the market as such, really. I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. I'm sure they would. Perhaps a 645D would not appeal to people who pre-book a new Leica camera without knowing the price, though... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always preferred Ilford HP-5 but I'll miss Tri-X when it goes. I won't miss Kodachrome. I won't miss Kodachrome personally (I shot Agfa slide film when I was a teenager - the last time I shot much colour), but I'll miss the ~idea~ of Kodachrome. Knowing that McCurry's Afghan Girl was shot on it makes it's anticipated passing more poignant. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Not really a Leica camera in the hand-held tradition, and no relation whatever to the S2. I remember seeing that once upon a time ... it is a technical camera. The gods only know whether they sold more than a dozen of them. G On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Not true. Leica made a 25MP S1 with a 5140x5140 sensor. Rather rare, admittedly. http://burlington.craigslist.org/bfs/844376362.html Hence the new camera's name is S2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
Somehow, I just knew you would quibble about it. OK, you are right D Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Not really a Leica camera in the hand-held tradition, and no relation whatever to the S2. I remember seeing that once upon a time ... it is a technical camera. The gods only know whether they sold more than a dozen of them. G On Sep 25, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Not true. Leica made a 25MP S1 with a 5140x5140 sensor. Rather rare, admittedly. http://burlington.craigslist.org/bfs/844376362.html Hence the new camera's name is S2 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
On Sep 25, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Digital cameras are not really medium format cameras, however, The term medium format is quite arbitrary in any case, isn't it? I believe the distinction between medium and small format has been kept at least to a certain degree in terms of market segment as well as the negative format, though - i.e. digital cameras from traditional medium format vendors have larger sensors than the ones that descended from 35mm bodies, and are sold to some of the same people. I don't know that medium format as a type designation is arbitrary at all. It denotes cameras that used 120/220 sized roll film, with a range of capture format sizings from 6x4.5 to 6x17 cm. Same for 35mm: 35mm cameras are cameras that use double-sprocket cine- derived film which is 35mm wide. There are half and double frame 35mm cameras, variants like the Robot Rapids, etc. I think there may be a couple more, but never mind that. Quite likely. Alpa is one that comes to mind. Bronica (now gone), Contax (also gone), Fuji, Horseman, Mamiya, etc etc are all names in the medium format market space. That makes it a pretty nice market with only a few competitors, selling only pretty high-end gear, all of which is, by definition, pretty new. Established leadership there is up for grabs. Maybe. I don't know that much about the market as such, really. BTW: Remember that Victor Hasselblad of old is gone. The vestiges of the name continue in other hands. I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. I'm sure they would. Perhaps a 645D would not appeal to people who pre-book a new Leica camera without knowing the price, though... That's not the market that it would appeal to. The market of Pentax medium format users (6x7 and 645) who have a healthy collection of excellent lenses continue to wait for it... Same as the Leica R camera users await with bated breath the R10 digital body. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away
frank theriault wrote: I won't miss Kodachrome personally ... but I'll miss the ~idea~ of Kodachrome. Ooh. Quotes list! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: impressive stuff ... Leica S2 kit
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think it would be nice if Hoya/Pentax would get their collective arse moving on that front with the 645D. I'm sure they have business reasons for the delays to deal with, but there are a lot of Pentax MF users who would be made happy with the release of this camera. G Time will tell ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New grip for K10D K20D body
It's not an indentation, but rather an extension outward of the grip below the IR sensor. It's done for people with big hands who need a deeper grip. The stock K10/20D grip is absolutely perfect for me, but I have average-dude hands, and I can imagine people with bigger hands wishing for a deeper grip. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto Original Message Subject: Re: New grip for K10D K20D body From: Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, September 25, 2008 2:00 pm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net On Sep 25, 2008, at 15:46, Toine wrote: Maybe old news... Has anyone tried this: http://www.pentax.de/de/news/1003/foto_news.php If you want Pentax installs a new shell with a new grip on your old body??? What is the point/benefit? Looks like there is an indentation on the front by where the IR receiver is - is that it? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mama's taking Kodachrome away
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: I won't miss Kodachrome personally ... but I'll miss the ~idea~ of Kodachrome. Ooh. Quotes list! So, Paul Simon owes his carrer to Kodak.:-) Davem who still has 4 rolls of Tri x in 120 format sitting here to develope. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm On 26/9/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: English cops are still using film cameras? I watched the 1 hour long doc tonight featuring this excerpt - extended in the prog - where do you get the film camera reference from? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: way OT - school system shenanigans in Pittsburgh
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is there is two different 'Left's'. One is the honestly Socialist/Marxist types who have very solid grounded reasons for their belief. The other are folk marxists operating as 'Liberals' and 'Progressives' who seem to prefer a neo-aristocratic system of feel good measures, where everything must be right if the right people with the right attitudes are pushing the right programs, irrespective of whether there's any basis in reality for any of those three suppositions. I respect the former very much. The latter are a big problem as reality doesn't affect them much. -- I think you're over-simplifying things just a tad. Absolutely. There's the Socialist Left. The Left Socialists. The Left Wing Socialists. The Socialist Left Wing. The Trotskyites. The Reformed Trotskyites. The Reformed Left Trotskyites. The Anti-Trotskyite Marxist Front. The Marxist Liberationists (Trotskyite Wing). The Militant Left Wing Anti-Marxist Leninist Front. The People's Front for Left Wing Liberation. The Anti-Nazi Left Liberationists. The Popular Front for People's Liberation Army. The Provisional Trotskyite Front for People's Freedom. The Provisional Marxist Front for Palestine. The People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Judea... And that's just the moderates... You forgot Ned Flanders Leftorium store. Dave Citizen Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Two more applicants for a Darwin
On 25/9/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7636577.stm On 26/9/08, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: English cops are still using film cameras? I watched the 1 hour long doc tonight featuring this excerpt - extended in the prog - where do you get the film camera reference from? Ack! shows how much attention I was paying. I have seen police forensics photographing crime scenes - highways included - and they have used digital cameras for some years now. The quick shot of the cop snapping could well be a personal camera -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - oats
I think so. Its sutle, nice colour and good contrast from background. Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with fill-flash... What say you? In the blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/09/oats.html Direct to (larger) image: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/SNjQ4UCZDKI/ATo/3qfYCVhVxtI/s1600-h/20080921-0051.jpg Direct to image, abbreviated: http://stutt.no/458215 Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Specific Prohibition
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/09/specific-prohibition.html Cats in the neighbourhood figured this gave them carte blanche... Thats what cats do. Dave cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Ernesto's Handiwork
I like the cables mixed it to this Frank. Good conversion. Just to add my green ness to the thread, since i now walk to work, well the 300M to the bus, the truck has sat in the driveway all week. I try.:-) Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:54 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I've been hitting you guys with a lot of Bikeporn PESOs this week, but I popped into the Jet Fuel Cafe on Sunday. It's kind of a hangout for cyclists, but since Sunday was Car-free Day (I don't know if that was a local or international thing) there was even more than the usual amount of eye candy on view. Ernesto Colnago has been making beautiful bikes for a long time now, but this steel-framed beauty caught my eye: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2008/09/ernestos-handiwork.html My camera got a good workout! Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some fall with D-range 200%
Have to agree with Bob here, Dave On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Melihhov Sent: 25 September 2008 21:51 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Some fall with D-range 200% http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080925222659 ^^^ While shooting landscapes or in forest D-range can be very useful addition. I wonder why it doesn't work with ISO 100 though. Newest Pentax K-m has shadow enhancement in addition to highlights for EDR. Hopefully next Pentax DSLR would have more customizable options rather than plain D-range On/Off... But in its limited effect it's very useful function to advance K20D image quality in tricky lighting situations. Then beyond K20D, ufraw lensfun library can defish source lense designated as fisheye to rectilinear lense target. It looks a bit of holga after reversing fisheye curvature. Your comments are appreciated. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some fall with D-range 200%
What Bob said. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Some fall with D-range 200% The first shot is very nice indeed - lovely tonal range. The others are bit gaudy for my taste, but quite nice all the same. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Melihhov Sent: 25 September 2008 21:51 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Some fall with D-range 200% http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080925222659 ^^^ While shooting landscapes or in forest D-range can be very useful addition. I wonder why it doesn't work with ISO 100 though. Newest Pentax K-m has shadow enhancement in addition to highlights for EDR. Hopefully next Pentax DSLR would have more customizable options rather than plain D-range On/Off... But in its limited effect it's very useful function to advance K20D image quality in tricky lighting situations. Then beyond K20D, ufraw lensfun library can defish source lense designated as fisheye to rectilinear lense target. It looks a bit of holga after reversing fisheye curvature. Your comments are appreciated. . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New grip for K10D K20D body
On Sep 25, 2008, at 17:41, John Celio wrote: It's not an indentation, but rather an extension outward of the grip below the IR sensor. It's done for people with big hands who need a deeper grip. The stock K10/20D grip is absolutely perfect for me, but I have average-dude hands, and I can imagine people with bigger hands wishing for a deeper grip. OK, I get it. This looks like something Canon could get into - have you ever tried to hold the 450D in your hand? It requires a serious clenching of the fingertips to get any sort of grip on it. Just awful. Average-dude hands here, too. K10D fits just great. Well, it's nice of them to offer the service! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
