Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Thibouille
Still, strictly speaking a square is indeed a rectangle.
For all intend and purposes, it is confusing to talk about a rectangle
when it is also a square. But well... ;)

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:56 AM, keith_w keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50:16PM -0500, JC OConnell wrote:
 # Whiz? In what class?, remedial school?
 # # a square IS a rectangle. a square photo format is still a rectangular
 # format.
 # its just a rectangle with all four sides equal length.

 Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
 rhombus, or a trapezoid.

 While all 4 corners of both a square and a rectangle must be 90 degrees, the
 commonly accepted (preferred) definition states that a rectangle has
 adjacent sides of UNequal length.

 I think it's really stretching it to call a square a rectangle, since a
 square's sides MUST be of equal length.

 I'm in favor of differentiating the two.
 I mean, if I was asked...  :-D

 keith whaley



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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread keith_w

Thibouille wrote:

Mmm Nikon is rumoured to introduce a medium format lineup (MX format)
based on a sensor of 54x54 mm.
If this is true, Pentax MF'd better be cheap enough, and Leica is screwed ;)

Anyway, rumours ... :p



A tiny bit smaller than the old time 2 1/4 square format. What would the point 
be?

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread keith_w

JC OConnell wrote:
Rectangle Definition : 


From Latin: rectus right + angle,



 A 4-sided polygon where all interior angles are 90° 



=

JC O'Connell


As far as you go, your statement is totally correct.


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RE: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Bob W
  Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
  rhombus, or a trapezoid.
 
 While all 4 corners of both a square and a rectangle must be 
 90 degrees, the 
 commonly accepted (preferred) definition states that a 
 rectangle has adjacent 
 sides of UNequal length.
 
 I think it's really stretching it to call a square a 
 rectangle, since a square's 
 sides MUST be of equal length.
 
 I'm in favor of differentiating the two.
 I mean, if I was asked...  :-D
 

They must teach you some strange things in your schools. JCO is quite
correct - at least, our schools taught us that a rectangle is a
quadrilateral with 4 right angles, so a square is a rectangle. A rectangle
with unequal sides is an oblong.

Bob


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
:-(
Mine is still being processed, even though I ordered it last Saturday 14th.
And then the international delivery...well patience...what else?



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Asunto: Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

Fingers crossed for speedy international delivery also...
Damn, you're winding up expectations here... :-)

Jostein

2009/2/19  eactiv...@aol.com:
 Wow, that was fast. Wonder if they are in  California?

 Smaller than I thought it would be, Forward still spelled  wrong, and they
 only used the 2008 Quote List (I was hoping they would include  all previous
 yearly quotes, since I wasn't around much in 2008 and only got one  quote in, 
 and
 it wasn't funny, either. Poop.).

 Image wrap -- doesn't  include book flaps from dust jacket, but does include
 the back cover of the dusk  jacket (on the back). Overall, it looks good. My
 facing photos are Doug's and  Jostein's, so I feel flattered. :-)

 It's really, really  nice.

 Thanks, guys.

 Marnie :-)  Now I have to sit down and go  through it page by  page.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread David Savage
I ordered mine on Saturday too  got a FedEx notification email today
telling me my order had been dispatched.

Cheers,

Dave

2009/2/19 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com:
 :-(
 Mine is still being processed, even though I ordered it last Saturday 14th.
 And then the international delivery...well patience...what else?



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 Asunto: Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

 Fingers crossed for speedy international delivery also...
 Damn, you're winding up expectations here... :-)

 Jostein

 2009/2/19  eactiv...@aol.com:
 Wow, that was fast. Wonder if they are in  California?

 Smaller than I thought it would be, Forward still spelled  wrong, and they
 only used the 2008 Quote List (I was hoping they would include  all previous
 yearly quotes, since I wasn't around much in 2008 and only got one  quote 
 in, and
 it wasn't funny, either. Poop.).

 Image wrap -- doesn't  include book flaps from dust jacket, but does include
 the back cover of the dusk  jacket (on the back). Overall, it looks good. My
 facing photos are Doug's and  Jostein's, so I feel flattered. :-)

 It's really, really  nice.

 Thanks, guys.

 Marnie :-)  Now I have to sit down and go  through it page by  page.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets theirs.

Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell  anyone. Heh.

Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior Shore, is  powerful and 
dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is just gorgeous -- layered, soft,  subtle.

Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume that is  wide-angle, maybe 
even fish-eye (though not over done fisheye). Simply fantastic  photo, 
reflection, skies, trees, it has it all - really, really  nice.

Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in the water. At  first, I 
thought Wish he hadn't put the road in, it detracts. Then I decided  it 
really 
added depth -- leads the eye in.

Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye, crystal clear, strong 
colors, and it's funny.

Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter, great shot. Love the shaggy  
fur.

Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us just have to hate  you.

Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings of color and such  fine 
detail in the feathers.

Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great collection 
of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.

Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-) Isn't  that the same photo 
that Cotty once made a magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.

Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo just leaps off  the page. 

Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the fog is  rolling over the 
hills and the gentle late day colors. 

Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full color. Really, really pretty.

Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs near the beginning, it's a 
very strong  photo.

Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one. The title is  really apt. 
Very surreal and beautiful.

Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess you know how to shoot people 
and people on the street  already :-). I just hadn't been around to see it. 
Love it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And great timing on your part.

Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think you should do more of that. 
IR, right?

Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.

Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still love the frames. Godfrey's 
Beginning Ascent, I already commented on,  very painterly.

Many of the others I'd seen. Many I hadn't. But I can't  comment on them all 
anyway, there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I  hadn't seen.

Lots of great photos and it feels great to have mine in  there with them.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Derby Chang


Arrrgh. Fedex tells me I'll get mine on Monday. A whole weekend to wait. 
Marnie, your excellent advanced review makes this weekend a very looong 
weekend.


D


eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets theirs.

Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell  anyone. Heh.

Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior Shore, is  powerful and 
dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is just gorgeous -- layered, soft,  subtle.


Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume that is  wide-angle, maybe 
even fish-eye (though not over done fisheye). Simply fantastic  photo, 
reflection, skies, trees, it has it all - really, really  nice.


Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in the water. At  first, I 
thought Wish he hadn't put the road in, it detracts. Then I decided  it really 
added depth -- leads the eye in.


Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye, crystal clear, strong 
colors, and it's funny.


Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter, great shot. Love the shaggy  
fur.


Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us just have to hate  you.

Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings of color and such  fine 
detail in the feathers.


Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great collection 
of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.


Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-) Isn't  that the same photo 
that Cotty once made a magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.


Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo just leaps off  the page. 

Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the fog is  rolling over the 
hills and the gentle late day colors. 


Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full color. Really, really pretty.

Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs near the beginning, it's a 
very strong  photo.


Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one. The title is  really apt. 
Very surreal and beautiful.


Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess you know how to shoot people 
and people on the street  already :-). I just hadn't been around to see it. 
Love it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And great timing on your part.


Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think you should do more of that. 
IR, right?


Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.

Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still love the frames. Godfrey's 
Beginning Ascent, I already commented on,  very painterly.


Many of the others I'd seen. Many I hadn't. But I can't  comment on them all 
anyway, there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I  hadn't seen.


Lots of great photos and it feels great to have mine in  there with them.

Later, Marnie aka Doe  :-)



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Derby Chang

Oh, forgot the smilie

:)



Derby Chang wrote:


Arrrgh. Fedex tells me I'll get mine on Monday. A whole weekend to 
wait. Marnie, your excellent advanced review makes this weekend a very 
looong weekend.


D


eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets 
theirs.


Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell  anyone. Heh.

Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior Shore, is  powerful 
and dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is just gorgeous -- layered, 
soft,  subtle.


Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume that is  
wide-angle, maybe even fish-eye (though not over done fisheye). 
Simply fantastic  photo, reflection, skies, trees, it has it all - 
really, really  nice.


Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in the water. At  
first, I thought Wish he hadn't put the road in, it detracts. Then 
I decided  it really added depth -- leads the eye in.


Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye, crystal clear, 
strong colors, and it's funny.


Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter, great shot. Love the 
shaggy  fur.


Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us just have to hate  you.

Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings of color and such  
fine detail in the feathers.


Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great 
collection of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the 
nylons? Heh.


Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-) Isn't  that the same 
photo that Cotty once made a magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.


Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo just leaps off  the page.
Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the fog is  rolling over 
the hills and the gentle late day colors.
Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full color. Really, 
really pretty.


Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs near the beginning, 
it's a very strong  photo.


Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one. The title is  really 
apt. Very surreal and beautiful.


Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess you know how to shoot 
people and people on the street  already :-). I just hadn't been 
around to see it. Love it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And 
great timing on your part.


Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think you should do more 
of that. IR, right?


Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.

Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still love the frames. 
Godfrey's Beginning Ascent, I already commented on,  very painterly.


Many of the others I'd seen. Many I hadn't. But I can't  comment on 
them all anyway, there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I  
hadn't seen.


Lots of great photos and it feels great to have mine in  there with 
them.


Later, Marnie aka Doe  :-)



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread James
For any one who is interested,
I found tomshardware did some tests on SDHC cards, speed reading/writing .

www.thg-news.com/T2?95yU3Pf2yL5mVQJRwGVQJKe8V2GKA8t 

James



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Interesting SDHC tests

2009-02-19 Thread James
For any one who is interested,
I found tomshardware did some tests on SDHC cards, speed reading/writing .

www.thg-news.com/T2?95yU3Pf2yL5mVQJRwGVQJKe8V2GKA8t

James

At least i got the subject line right this time :)



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread James
OOPS.
Silly me forgot to change the subject line.
I pray for mercy and forgiveness  from all because I am very senative to 
flaming  :D

James







For any one who is interested,
I found tomshardware did some tests on SDHC cards, speed reading/writing .




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RE: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names?

2009-02-19 Thread JC OConnell
like I said its not what you think, its a common language
to negate a statement with a not on the end in several languages.
its continental...

JC O'Connell
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 NOT isnt from 1993, its a common language thingy dating back centuries

 in some languages. German uses it for sure, (nicht), thats where I 
 learned it in the 1970's. Im sure other languages do too, it's English
 usage was trendy for a while but the purpose hasnt changed, its a
 just a negation to a statment.

I am referring to the practice of sarcastically agreeing with someone's 
statement and then taking it back with a loud, extra-sarcastic NOT!
It 
was very popular in the mid-nineties, when I was a teen, and I have yet
to 
hear of it being used quite as extensively during any other time period.

I do not mean to imply that my generation is proud of that little 
catch-phrase (if it can be called that), but rather that your usage of
it 
makes you appear quite juvenile.

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RE: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread JC OConnell
speak for yourself, I said a square is rectangle, not those other
shapes..

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50:16PM -0500, JC OConnell wrote:
# Whiz? In what class?, remedial school?
# 
# a square IS a rectangle. a square photo format is still a rectangular
# format. # its just a rectangle with all four sides equal length.

Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
rhombus, or a trapezoid.

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RE: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread JC OConnell
A square is a special rectangle, but it IS a rectangle.
I just googled it last night, nowhere in any of the
definitions does it say that a rectangle has to have
any requirements on side lengths. Its just has to 
have all 4 corners at 90 degreees. There is differentiation,
the square is a subset or special rectangle, but to say
a square is NOT a rectangle is not correct per any definition
geometric or otherwise. I dont know where you are getting
this UNequal adjacent length requirement from, but its not case.
thats the crux of the argument. Squares and rectangles are not
exclusive, squares are just a special rectangle with all four
sides equal lenght.

JC O'Connell
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Larry Colen wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50:16PM -0500, JC OConnell wrote: # Whiz? 
 In what class?, remedial school? #
 # a square IS a rectangle. a square photo format is still a
rectangular
 # format.
 # its just a rectangle with all four sides equal length.

 Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a 
 rhombus, or a trapezoid.

While all 4 corners of both a square and a rectangle must be 90 degrees,
the 
commonly accepted (preferred) definition states that a rectangle has
adjacent 
sides of UNequal length.

I think it's really stretching it to call a square a rectangle, since a
square's 
sides MUST be of equal length.

I'm in favor of differentiating the two.
I mean, if I was asked...  :-D

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/2/19  eactiv...@aol.com:
 Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great collection
 of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.

Read eg. page 2 in this:
http://www.adoptabeach.org.uk/downloads/strandline/winter2006.pdf

It's quite sad, really.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:00:08 +1100, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
said:
 
 Arrrgh. Fedex tells me I'll get mine on Monday. A whole weekend to wait. 
 Marnie, your excellent advanced review makes this weekend a very looong 
 weekend.


Double Arrrgh.

According to the Blurb website, mine is still being processed and wont
even be shipped until 24/2 even though I ordered on 13/2.

Bugger! Bugger! Bugger!  Oh bugger it.  Here's another one.

Bugger!

Marnie - thanks for the kind comment.  Yes wide angle but not a fisheye
- 16-45 mm zoom at 16mm.  The oval shape is the natural shape of the
headland.



Cheers

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 D
 
 
 eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
  Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets theirs.
 
  Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell  anyone. Heh.
 
  Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior Shore, is  powerful and 
  dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is just gorgeous -- layered, soft,  subtle.
 
  Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume that is  wide-angle, 
  maybe 
  even fish-eye (though not over done fisheye). Simply fantastic  photo, 
  reflection, skies, trees, it has it all - really, really  nice.
 
  Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in the water. At  first, I 
  thought Wish he hadn't put the road in, it detracts. Then I decided  it 
  really 
  added depth -- leads the eye in.
 
  Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye, crystal clear, strong 
  colors, and it's funny.
 
  Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter, great shot. Love the shaggy  
  fur.
 
  Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us just have to hate  you.
 
  Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings of color and such  fine 
  detail in the feathers.
 
  Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great 
  collection 
  of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.
 
  Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-) Isn't  that the same photo 
  that Cotty once made a magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.
 
  Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo just leaps off  the page. 
 
  Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the fog is  rolling over the 
  hills and the gentle late day colors. 
 
  Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full color. Really, really 
  pretty.
 
  Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs near the beginning, it's a 
  very strong  photo.
 
  Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one. The title is  really apt. 
  Very surreal and beautiful.
 
  Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess you know how to shoot 
  people 
  and people on the street  already :-). I just hadn't been around to see it. 
  Love it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And great timing on your part.
 
  Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think you should do more of 
  that. 
  IR, right?
 
  Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.
 
  Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still love the frames. Godfrey's 
  Beginning Ascent, I already commented on,  very painterly.
 
  Many of the others I'd seen. Many I hadn't. But I can't  comment on them 
  all 
  anyway, there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I  hadn't seen.
 
  Lots of great photos and it feels great to have mine in  there with them.
 
  Later, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
 
 
 
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread David Savage
2009/2/19 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:
 Bugger! Bugger! Bugger!  Oh bugger it.  Here's another one.

 Bugger!

LOL

Mark!

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread keith_w

Bob W wrote:

Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
rhombus, or a trapezoid.
While all 4 corners of both a square and a rectangle must be 
90 degrees, the 
commonly accepted (preferred) definition states that a 
rectangle has adjacent 
sides of UNequal length.


I think it's really stretching it to call a square a 
rectangle, since a square's sides MUST be of equal length.


I'm in favor of differentiating the two.
I mean, if I was asked...  :-D




They must teach you some strange things in your schools. JCO is quite
correct - at least, our schools taught us that a rectangle is a
quadrilateral with 4 right angles, so a square is a rectangle. A rectangle
with unequal sides is an oblong.

Bob


C'mon, Bob. You're putting me on, right? Or making jokes.
An oblong is a squashed circle.

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread keith_w

JC OConnell wrote:

A square is a special rectangle, but it IS a rectangle.
I just googled it last night, nowhere in any of the
definitions does it say that a rectangle has to have
any requirements on side lengths. Its just has to 
have all 4 corners at 90 degreees. There is differentiation,

the square is a subset or special rectangle, but to say
a square is NOT a rectangle is not correct per any definition
geometric or otherwise. I dont know where you are getting
this UNequal adjacent length requirement from, but its not case.
thats the crux of the argument. Squares and rectangles are not
exclusive, squares are just a special rectangle with all four
sides equal lenght.

JC O'Connell


As you wish, JC.

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist


On Feb 19, 2009, at 7:40 AM, keith_w wrote:


Bob W wrote:

Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
rhombus, or a trapezoid.
While all 4 corners of both a square and a rectangle must be 90  
degrees, the commonly accepted (preferred) definition states that  
a rectangle has adjacent sides of UNequal length.


I think it's really stretching it to call a square a rectangle,  
since a square's sides MUST be of equal length.


I'm in favor of differentiating the two.
I mean, if I was asked...  :-D




They must teach you some strange things in your schools. JCO is quite
correct - at least, our schools taught us that a rectangle is a
quadrilateral with 4 right angles, so a square is a rectangle. A  
rectangle

with unequal sides is an oblong.
Bob


C'mon, Bob. You're putting me on, right? Or making jokes.
An oblong is a squashed circle.

keith


You're thinking of an oval. Bob, as usual, is correct. As is JCO.
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Jack Davis

Be prepared to be impressed, Derby. Extremely well done with glorious images 
all teed up by an exceptionally well written Foreword.
Terrific product further valued for its financial benefit to the human 
condition.

Jack


--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:04 AM
 Oh, forgot the smilie
 
 :)
 
 
 
 Derby Chang wrote:
  
  Arrrgh. Fedex tells me I'll get mine on Monday. A
 whole weekend to wait. Marnie, your excellent advanced
 review makes this weekend a very looong weekend.
  
  D
  
  
  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
  Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until 
 everyone ordering gets theirs.
  
  Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell 
 anyone. Heh.
  
  Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior
 Shore, is  powerful and dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is
 just gorgeous -- layered, soft,  subtle.
  
  Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume
 that is  wide-angle, maybe even fish-eye (though not over
 done fisheye). Simply fantastic  photo, reflection, skies,
 trees, it has it all - really, really  nice.
  
  Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in
 the water. At  first, I thought Wish he hadn't put
 the road in, it detracts. Then I decided  it really
 added depth -- leads the eye in.
  
  Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye,
 crystal clear, strong colors, and it's funny.
  
  Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter,
 great shot. Love the shaggy  fur.
  
  Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us
 just have to hate  you.
  
  Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings
 of color and such  fine detail in the feathers.
  
  Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  -
 Great colors, great collection of birds, great photo -- but
 where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.
  
  Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-)
 Isn't  that the same photo that Cotty once made a
 magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.
  
  Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo
 just leaps off  the page.
  Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the
 fog is  rolling over the hills and the gentle late day
 colors.
  Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full
 color. Really, really pretty.
  
  Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs
 near the beginning, it's a very strong  photo.
  
  Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one.
 The title is  really apt. Very surreal and beautiful.
  
  Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess
 you know how to shoot people and people on the street 
 already :-). I just hadn't been around to see it. Love
 it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And great timing
 on your part.
  
  Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think
 you should do more of that. IR, right?
  
  Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.
  
  Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still
 love the frames. Godfrey's Beginning Ascent, I already
 commented on,  very painterly.
  
  Many of the others I'd seen. Many I
 hadn't. But I can't  comment on them all anyway,
 there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I 
 hadn't seen.
  
  Lots of great photos and it feels great to have
 mine in  there with them.
  
  Later, Marnie aka Doe  :-)
  
  
  
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Re: film scanners

2009-02-19 Thread m.9.wilson

 Nick David Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 Has anyone any experience with the Canoscan 4400? It's only about $100. I 
 know the quality probably wouldn't be the greatest, but the primary purpose 
 of this scanner would be low-res scans for the web that look better than what 
 Wal-Mart does.

From long-term personal experience with a 2700F, my advice would be to walk 
swiftly in the opposite direction.  Unless you enjoy shouting and screaming at 
inanimate objects.

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Re: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names?

2009-02-19 Thread m.9.wilson

 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: 
 Graydon wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 05:32:49PM -0500, JC OConnell scripsit:
  Are they that thick headed/uncreative that they cant think of new model
  names? Its not like cars where you have a '75 KM and a '09 KM. They
  are both model KM(K-M). Thats lazy if not stupid. I dont think there is
  any big marketing value in KM either like calling it a K1000 or LX
  or something.
  
  They could call it Cloud of Weasels, too, 
 
 Woot! I've got a name for my next band: Cloud of Weasels!

Guarantees that you'll never make it big in Japan.  Croud of weasers - the 
music of emphysema for the masses.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread m.9.wilson

 eactiv...@aol.com wrote: 
 Wow, that was fast. Wonder if they are in  California?

Ordered on the day of release, not due to be dispatched for another five 
days...

 
 Smaller than I thought it would be, Forward still spelled  wrong, and they 
 only used the 2008 Quote List (I was hoping they would include  all previous 
 yearly quotes, since I wasn't around much in 2008 and only got one  quote in, 
 and 
 it wasn't funny, either. Poop.).
 
 Image wrap -- doesn't  include book flaps from dust jacket, but does include 
 the back cover of the dusk  jacket (on the back). Overall, it looks good. My 
 facing photos are Doug's and  Jostein's, so I feel flattered. :-)
 
 It's really, really  nice.
 
 Thanks, guys.
 
 Marnie :-)  Now I have to sit down and go  through it page by  page.
 
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread David Savage
Mine says the same on the Blurb website but I already have a FedEx
tracking number.

DS

2009/2/19  m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Wow, that was fast. Wonder if they are in  California?

 Ordered on the day of release, not due to be dispatched for another five 
 days...

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: keith_w

Subject: Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor



Thibouille wrote:

Mmm Nikon is rumoured to introduce a medium format lineup (MX format)
based on a sensor of 54x54 mm.
If this is true, Pentax MF'd better be cheap enough, and Leica is screwed 
;)


Anyway, rumours ... :p



A tiny bit smaller than the old time 2 1/4 square format. What would the 
point be?


High megapixel numbers for bragging rights.
I wouldn't mind a square format DSLR actually. I quite liked using 
Hasselblads, and the people I know who shot Hassy never seemed to have 
problems churning out very elegant square pictures.


William Robb 



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Subash
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:22:09 EST
eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets
 theirs.

hi Marnie,

thanks for the nice words. that lake is a brackish water lake at an
altitude of around 14,600 ft and the sky and water are really that blue
(of course the CPL does help here) when the sun is out. it's magical
actually being there, to watch the lake change its hues as the sun and
the clouds do their thing... ;-)

i've ordered the book through someone i know in the US and looks like
i'll be getting the book a lot later than most people here... 

regards, subash

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Re: PESO - Back Garden and Frosted Local

2009-02-19 Thread Rick Womer
Just sent it-- heard back from Verizon that it is an international call.

Rick

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts

eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets theirs.

snip

Thanks for the first proper review Marnie! I'm looking forward (or 
foreword) to many more as the books get delivered. It's fascinating and 
gratifying to observe how everyone I show the book to has different 
picks as favorite shots. That's a good sign, I think.


53 copies sold as of this morning (not including the 4 I've ordered 
myself as part of the quality control process).





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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein

2009/2/19 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com:
 Mine says the same on the Blurb website but I already have a FedEx
 tracking number.

 DS

 2009/2/19  m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

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 Wow, that was fast. Wonder if they are in  California?

 Ordered on the day of release, not due to be dispatched for another five 
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Doug Brewer

AlunFoto wrote:

Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein


I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says 
mine's still a week away from being shipped.


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Subash wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:22:09 EST
eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets
theirs.


hi Marnie,

thanks for the nice words. that lake is a brackish water lake at an
altitude of around 14,600 ft and the sky and water are really that blue
(of course the CPL does help here) when the sun is out. it's magical
actually being there, to watch the lake change its hues as the sun and
the clouds do their thing... ;-)

i've ordered the book through someone i know in the US and looks like
i'll be getting the book a lot later than most people here... 


Delivery to some parts of the world may be problematic :(

By the way, if anyone knows how to get a copy to Luka Knezevic-Strika in 
Serbia he'd probably appreciate it.


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Doug Brewer wrote:

AlunFoto wrote:

Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein


I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says 
mine's still a week away from being shipped.


Every one I've ordered has shipped 5-7 days earlier than they estimated. 
I think they're deliberately overestimating production time because 
they've had to deal with people getting frantic when their book has been 
delayed in the past.


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:
 Doug Brewer wrote:

  AlunFoto wrote:
 
   Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
   delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?
  
   Jostein
  
 
  I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says
 mine's still a week away from being shipped.
 

  Every one I've ordered has shipped 5-7 days earlier than they estimated. I
 think they're deliberately overestimating production time because they've
 had to deal with people getting frantic when their book has been delayed in
 the past.

I ordered mine on the 14th.  FedEx tracking says it should be here
tomorrow.  Whee!

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/2/19 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu:
 Doug Brewer wrote:

 AlunFoto wrote:

 Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
 delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

 Jostein

 I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says
 mine's still a week away from being shipped.

 Every one I've ordered has shipped 5-7 days earlier than they estimated. I
 think they're deliberately overestimating production time because they've
 had to deal with people getting frantic when their book has been delayed in
 the past.

Mine was ordered Friday. I just checked, and it says Order Status:
Completed. Whatever that means... :-)
Anyway, I've opted for economy shipping, which is non-trackable. So I
guess I must wait about a week from now if it was shipped today.
Unless, of course, the customs authorities wants to nose around more
than minimally.

Jostein


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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
By the way...

Has anyone dropped a hint to Ned Bunnell? Maybe he would like to
feature it in his blog?

Jostein

2009/2/18 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:19:36PM +0100, Dario Bonazza wrote:
 # Larry Colen wrote:
 #
 # Anybody thought of posting a link to it on any of the web based Pentax
 # fora?
 #
 # I tried with pentaxforums, but my post surviced one day or so and then
 # sublimated.

 I could put a link up on dp review. Just didn't want to accidentally
 be out of line by doing so without asking.

 #
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Bruce Walker

Doug Brewer wrote:

AlunFoto wrote:

Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein


I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says 
mine's still a week away from being shipped.


I also ordered mine on Saturday morning. But I asked for the economy 
shipping, which is going by US Post ground. Looks like it shipped 
yesterday, according to the Blurb site.


-bmw

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Ken Waller
See Larry, we learn all sorts of 'interesting' things here at the PDML.  
with a little sarcasm 


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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:50:16PM -0500, JC OConnell wrote:
# Whiz? In what class?, remedial school?
#
# a square IS a rectangle. a square photo format is still a rectangular
# format.
# its just a rectangle with all four sides equal length.

Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Doug Brewer

Bruce Walker wrote:

Doug Brewer wrote:


AlunFoto wrote:


Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein



I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says 
mine's still a week away from being shipped.



I also ordered mine on Saturday morning. But I asked for the economy 
shipping, which is going by US Post ground. Looks like it shipped 
yesterday, according to the Blurb site.


-bmw


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Re: Assignment Help - HS Wrestling

2009-02-19 Thread Ed Keeney
It's been a crazy week, sorry for the delay in responding.

First and foremost, thanks for all the comments and kudos.  I'm
critical of my own work and always feel that nothing is good enough
and everything could be better.  Getting compliments from this group
is a very nice feeling.

Overall, the tighter shots were better, but that's a limit of a 50
plus not being able to follow the action around the mat.  I had to
stay in one corner.  If I had the funds (ha!) a second body with a
longer lens, that would have been the ultimate.

My brother-in-law (the coach) appreciated the work and next time I
should be better prepared.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
I ordered a hard cover on the 13th with 2nd day shipping.
I'm still 'processing' with the 24th as estimated ship date.
Maybe I shouldn't have ordered it in hardcover?!?
And Marnie, thanks for mentioning my Egret photo.
I'm saving your email until I can look at the book.  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Bruce Walker wrote:

 Doug Brewer wrote:

 AlunFoto wrote:

 Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
 delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

 Jostein


 I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb says
 mine's still a week away from being shipped.


 I also ordered mine on Saturday morning. But I asked for the economy
 shipping, which is going by US Post ground. Looks like it shipped yesterday,
 according to the Blurb site.

 -bmw

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Dario Bonazza

AlunFoto wrote:


Mine was ordered Friday. I just checked, and it says Order Status:
Completed. Whatever that means... :-)
Anyway, I've opted for economy shipping, which is non-trackable. So I
guess I must wait about a week from now if it was shipped today.
Unless, of course, the customs authorities wants to nose around more
than minimally.


Ditto. According to Blurb, my book is shipping today but I have no idea of 
actual delivery time due crossing the ocean, processing through customs and 
whatever.


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Fernando
Thanks for the comment, Marnie; you are killing me here, can't wait to
get my copies.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:22 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Oh, to heck with it. Too hard to wait until  everyone ordering gets theirs.

 Doug, heh, like your Forward. I won't tell  anyone. Heh.

 Ken - Love your photos, the sand one, Superior Shore, is  powerful and
 dramatic. The other, Seney Scene is just gorgeous -- layered, soft,  subtle.

 Brian - Morning at Mollymook, wow. Wow. I presume that is  wide-angle, maybe
 even fish-eye (though not over done fisheye). Simply fantastic  photo,
 reflection, skies, trees, it has it all - really, really  nice.

 Subash - Lakescape, beautiful. Such deep color in the water. At  first, I
 thought Wish he hadn't put the road in, it detracts. Then I decided  it 
 really
 added depth -- leads the eye in.

 Walt - Hot Dog Heaven, heh.  Great use of fisheye, crystal clear, strong
 colors, and it's funny.

 Tim -  Highland Cattle in Saskatchewan Winter, great shot. Love the shaggy
 fur.

 Thrainn - Well, you're so good, a lot of us just have to hate  you.

 Bob - What a lovely Egret, and such fine shadings of color and such  fine
 detail in the feathers.

 Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons, Sweetheart  - Great colors, great collection
 of birds, great photo -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.

 Christian - Glad one Cormorant got in there. :-) Isn't  that the same photo
 that Cotty once made a magazine cover of? A PDML  classic.

 Derby - Wearable Art, wow, that dramatic photo just leaps off  the page.

 Joseph - Evening Fog Fingers, I love the way the fog is  rolling over the
 hills and the gentle late day colors.

 Bill - Nice to  see Grandfather Mountain in full color. Really, really pretty.

 Jaume -  Outside the Museum, yeah, that belongs near the beginning, it's a
 very strong  photo.

 Fernando - Daydream, definitely looks like one. The title is  really apt.
 Very surreal and beautiful.

 Christine - Beale Street  Backflip, well, guess you know how to shoot people
 and people on the street  already :-). I just hadn't been around to see it.
 Love it -- it's sharp,  colorful, and fun. And great timing on your part.

 Dave - Smokies, lovely  vista. I definitely think you should do more of that.
 IR, right?

 Frank -  Unaware of the Stare, heh. Heh, heh.

 Ann, still love the green chairs.  Doug, still love the frames. Godfrey's
 Beginning Ascent, I already commented on,  very painterly.

 Many of the others I'd seen. Many I hadn't. But I can't  comment on them all
 anyway, there too many. So I have mainly remarked on ones I  hadn't seen.

 Lots of great photos and it feels great to have mine in  there with them.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I ordered on the 13th, probably within an hour or so of Mark's  
announcement. I also signed up for two-day shipping. Blurb's site says  
it will ship on about the 24th. It's probably a regional thing. Not a  
problem.

Paul
On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


Bruce Walker wrote:

Doug Brewer wrote:

AlunFoto wrote:


Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein



I dunno. I ordered on Saturday with second day shipping and Blurb  
says mine's still a week away from being shipped.
I also ordered mine on Saturday morning. But I asked for the  
economy shipping, which is going by US Post ground. Looks like it  
shipped yesterday, according to the Blurb site.

-bmw


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Paul Stenquist wrote:
I ordered on the 13th, probably within an hour or so of Mark's 
announcement. I also signed up for two-day shipping. Blurb's site says 
it will ship on about the 24th. It's probably a regional thing.


Definitely regional. The books are apparently printed at several 
locations. Some of mine have come from Rochester, NY. Some from 
different states (I forget at the moment).



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:15:13 +0100
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
 delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?
 
 Jostein
 

I don't think so.  I ordered mine with the cheapest shipping option, and it is 
scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Maybe it's alphabetized by last name? Or the luck 
of the draw? Anyway, I'm not complaining ;).

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Re: GESO - My Funny Valentine

2009-02-19 Thread Doug Brewer

Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:





I thought it was because you are the list maintainer. Or is it maintaining a 
list that led you to the drugs?



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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts

Subject: Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!



Paul Stenquist wrote:
I ordered on the 13th, probably within an hour or so of Mark's 
announcement. I also signed up for two-day shipping. Blurb's site says it 
will ship on about the 24th. It's probably a regional thing.


Definitely regional. The books are apparently printed at several 
locations. Some of mine have come from Rochester, NY. Some from different 
states (I forget at the moment).


Both the Blurbs that I've ordered came from SanFransisco.
I ordered my PDML books on the 13th and got shipping confirmation on the 
18th. Mine are coming via crippled pack mule, so hopefully I'll have them in 
time for Easter.


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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:16:38AM -0800, keith_w scripsit:
 Thibouille wrote:
 Mmm Nikon is rumoured to introduce a medium format lineup (MX format)
 based on a sensor of 54x54 mm.  If this is true, Pentax MF'd better
 be cheap enough, and Leica is screwed ;)

 Anyway, rumours ... :p

 A tiny bit smaller than the old time 2 1/4 square format. What would
 the point be?

Probably a fab constraint.

These all have to come out of (usually) 200mm or 300mm circles,
remember; that's the size of the silicon wafer in the fab. The chip is
going to be larger than the sensor area and the die (the chunk of
silicon with the chip on it) is going to be larger than the chip area.

So I'd bet 54mm x 54mm is the biggest sensor area they can get into a
~60mm square die; three across on 200mm, four across on 300mm.  (Can't
go right up to the edges.)  At less than fifteen per 300mm wafer with
perfect yield rates, this would NOT be a cheap sensor.

But, hey, purely rumour so far.  Applying logistical constraints to
rumours may not have useful results.

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PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
K 2.5 135mm on the *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second, handheld.

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html

Comments welcome.

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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I took a quick glance at their forums a couple years ago and didn't
 see any reason to stay.  Today, I surfed over there and clicked a few
 random threads.  Folks, from what I saw, there is considerably more
 useful information tossed around here in off-topic conversation.

Well, what scared me off was the qualifier intelligent...

;-)

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Re: Geso Possible photos for our Chamber of Commerce Map.

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Big congrats, Dave.  Hope goes as planned.  All are really great, especially
 the horse shots.  I most especially love this one:

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2009-chamber/album/slides/rural_ls_2181.html

That's considered high-tech farming up there in Stouffville.

gdr

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
I guess many rumours have some truth behind them - and they hardly come 
true anyway.


I'd pass a square sensor for my current uses. For me, the best format 
would be 3:4, but I can live with 35mm and with APS formats. About lens 
coverage, I believe many FF lens would be easily offered simply by 
re-issuing some key lenses already designed. And those lenses are very 
good, aren't they?


I suspect those sensors - both the FF and at least two different, square 
aspect samples are already available, and perhaps the new Pentax Digital 
Flagship is just waiting some good moment to be released. Not so sure 
they will come out, with everybody afraid of the big, bad crisis.


Just wondering... what is the usual image circle for DA, FF and 645 
lenses? And how could we make the best use of those circles?


LF

John Celio escreveu:
http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2009/02/wild-rumor-pentax-k3d-with-a-22mp-square-sensor-dslr.html 



I don't know about you, but I think it would be a pretty neat idea.  I 
imagine it would be strange to get used to a square view while using a 
non-MF camera.


I doubt there's an ounce of truth to it, though.

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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/19/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:

   I took a quick glance at their forums a couple years ago and didn't
   see any reason to stay.  Today, I surfed over there and clicked a few
   random threads.  Folks, from what I saw, there is considerably more
   useful information tossed around here in off-topic conversation.


 Well, what scared me off was the qualifier intelligent...

Well, there's also the matter of their claim to oldest Pentax
something-or-other, and while that's probably technically true, if
you want to pick nits about mail list vs. web forum, I think they're
playing the me, too card.  Besides, we're much more fun.

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Re: GESO - My Funny Valentine

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Frank:  They're all great, especially this one
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SZwdR96u-5I/FT4/_eluzfsYPMM/s1600-h/sandy_02.jpg
 They do come up a little dark, but I imagine you'll get that sorted.  Nice
 GESO.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread m.9.wilson

 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I took a quick glance at their forums a couple years ago and didn't
  see any reason to stay.  Today, I surfed over there and clicked a few
  random threads.  Folks, from what I saw, there is considerably more
  useful information tossed around here in off-topic conversation.
 
 Well, what scared me off was the qualifier intelligent...

Intelligent is as intelligent does.

Or something.

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Charles Robinson

On Feb 19, 2009, at 6:45, keith_w wrote:


JC OConnell wrote:

A square is a special rectangle, but it IS a rectangle.
I just googled it last night, nowhere in any of the
definitions does it say that a rectangle has to have
any requirements on side lengths. Its just has to have all 4  
corners at 90 degreees. There is differentiation,

the square is a subset or special rectangle, but to say
a square is NOT a rectangle is not correct per any definition
geometric or otherwise. I dont know where you are getting
this UNequal adjacent length requirement from, but its not case.
thats the crux of the argument. Squares and rectangles are not
exclusive, squares are just a special rectangle with all four
sides equal lenght.
JC O'Connell


As you wish, JC.



No - seriously, he's right!

(gasp)

Merriam-Webster puts it thusly:

rectangle |ˈrekˌta ng gəl|noun

a plane figure with four straight sides and four right angles, esp.  
one with unequal adjacent sides, in contrast to a square.


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Re: PESO - Back Garden and Frosted Local

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Two more from last week's snow:

 Our back garden:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8582545size=lg

 Our local (which has nice people, background jazz, wood fires in the 
 fireplaces, and lovely pints of Fuller's):

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8582553


Both very nice photos - that pub looks especially inviting!

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Re: Geso Possible photos for our Chamber of Commerce Map.

2009-02-19 Thread Doug Brewer

David J Brooks wrote:

I'm pumped to day.

A few days ago, i was contacted by the president of the
Whitchurch-Stouffville chamber of commerce (pop 30,000) about updating
the current map front page photo. She had seen my shots in the Town
planner calendar and liked what she saw, and gave me a call.

Stouffville's catch phrase is Country close to the City , so i sent
these for inspection and start the ball rolling.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2009-chamber/album/index.html

They are thinking a collage of all or some of them, and will get back
when the graphic people have their say.

They are willing to pay, but i don't know what to ask.

These have all been adjusted for previous prints, so it would juts
entail email files.

I'll also have photos credits.

Dave



Just got a chance to see these, Dave. It's a very good collection and 
perfect for this kind of use. Just don't shoot yourself in the foot when 
it comes time to invoice.


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Re: film scanners

2009-02-19 Thread Margus Männik

Actually, it works, but with one small trick.
You do need a sheet of transparent fine white (matte) plastic. Put it to 
the scanner glass, project the image to it and scan. Years ago I scanned 
some Super8 film frames that way.

Direct projection to scanner moving head doesn't work indeed.

BR, Margus


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Why not just get a used enlarger and put a flatbed scanner underneath
it?


Because that doesn't work.

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RE: Interesting SDHC tests

2009-02-19 Thread John Whittingham
Those Silicon Power cards look like a bargain!

John

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For any one who is interested,
I found tomshardware did some tests on SDHC cards, speed reading/writing .

www.thg-news.com/T2?95yU3Pf2yL5mVQJRwGVQJKe8V2GKA8t

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Re: PESO - Back Garden and Frosted Local

2009-02-19 Thread John Graves

Rick,

I do like your fire cover, next to the bikes.  I assume you go out and 
build a small teepee fire underneath the cover to add some warmth in 
your hands before biking in the snow?


John Graves
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On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
  

Two more from last week's snow:

Our back garden:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8582545size=lg

Our local (which has nice people, background jazz, wood fires in the 
fireplaces, and lovely pints of Fuller's):

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8582553




Both very nice photos - that pub looks especially inviting!

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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

K 2.5 135mm on the *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second, handheld.

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html

Comments welcome.

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
Therefore, if all four sides are equal, then three of those sides are  
also equal, so a square is an equilateral triangle. QED.


On Feb 18, 2009, at 23:03 , Larry Colen wrote:

# a square IS a rectangle. a square photo format is still a  
rectangular

# format.
# its just a rectangle with all four sides equal length.

Oh, c'mon now. Next thing you'll be telling us that a square is a
rhombus, or a trapezoid.


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Film Scanners

2009-02-19 Thread John Graves

Nick,

I have stashed somewhere, a backup for my early HP film scanner. It is
the original HP Photosmart film and photoscanner, and does scan both
negatives and slides, as well as 4x6 pictures  It also requires a SCSI
interface and a cable adapter.  It came with a card, I think but I will
look to see what and if I have it.  We can take this off line if you are
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
I ordered mine standard delivery (FedEx Ground - least expensive) on  
the afternoon of the 13th Friday, was shipped from San Francisco on  
the 16th Monday, and received them in Everett (Seattle) on the  
afternoon of the 17th.


I would suspect that Blurb might have a contract with several printers  
around the country with calibrated printers who crank these out and  
ship them 24 hours a day to get such rapid response times. Note that  
Marnie got hers the day after I did, and Mark was commenting on how  
quickly he got his proofs.



On Feb 19, 2009, at 06:15 , AlunFoto wrote:


Strikes me that our places in the queue may be down to the type of
delivery chosen. Express-shipping customers given the right of way?

Jostein


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Re: film scanners

2009-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Great way to get really low rez scans.

G

On Feb 19, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Margus Männik wrote:


Actually, it works, but with one small trick.
You do need a sheet of transparent fine white (matte) plastic. Put  
it to the scanner glass, project the image to it and scan. Years ago  
I scanned some Super8 film frames that way.

Direct projection to scanner moving head doesn't work indeed.

BR, Margus


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On Feb 18, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Why not just get a used enlarger and put a flatbed scanner  
underneath

it?


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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread Gonz
Nice catch, but the image is too dark with too little contrast for me.
 Its probably correctable a little though.  What the heck is he
dirinking in that little foofoo glass?

On 2/19/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 K 2.5 135mm on the *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second, handheld.

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html

  Comments welcome.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/19/2009 4:28:12 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
alunf...@gmail.com writes:
2009/2/19   eactiv...@aol.com:
 Jostein - Have a Pair of Nylons,  Sweetheart  - Great colors, great 
collection
 of birds, great photo  -- but where the heck are  the nylons? Heh.

Read eg. page 2 in  this:
http://www.adoptabeach.org.uk/downloads/strandline/winter2006.pdf

It's  quite sad, really.

Jostein

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and I was seeing them  without realizing it.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/19/2009 7:02:22 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
msrobert...@ysu.edu writes:
Paul Stenquist  wrote:
 I ordered on the 13th, probably within an hour or so of Mark's  
 announcement. I also signed up for two-day shipping. Blurb's site says  
 it will ship on about the 24th. It's probably a regional  thing.

Definitely regional. The books are apparently printed at several  
locations. Some of mine have come from Rochester, NY. Some from  
different states (I forget at the moment).


That  explains it. I was wondering. The return address on the box for mine 
says Blurb  CS, California Street, San Francisco. Since I am in the Bay Area, 
that is  obviously why I got it so fast. 

Marnie :-)  Honestly, I wasn't  trying to rub it in that some of us have them 
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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
The trash we discard in the sea, the nets cut loose to ensnare  
dolphins, tuna, etc, are a disgrace. Worse yet are the plastic six  
pack (and eight pack) loops that get tangled up in birds legs and  
necks. At the dump primarily, but anywhere they are discarded.


Please use a knife or scissors to cut every loop on those things  
(large and small) before they are discarded. Write to your local and  
state and federal representatives and try to get these things recycled  
instead of thrown away. Don't know if it does any good, but I use one  
of these to tie 25 or more together using the smallest hole, and cut  
all the other holes before placing them in the recycle bin. If your  
area recycles bundled plastic bags and/or gallon milk jugs, they may  
just recycle these items as well. Worth a try.


Joe

On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:07 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


Read eg. page 2 in  this:
http://www.adoptabeach.org.uk/downloads/strandline/winter2006.pdf

It's  quite sad, really.

Jostein

=
Thanks, Jostein.  Actually I wondered if that was it, if they were  
all over

and I was seeing them  without realizing it.

Marnie aka Doe  Darn,  sigh.


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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:20 AM, James s...@eftel.net.au wrote:
 OOPS.
 Silly me forgot to change the subject line.
 I pray for mercy and forgiveness  from all because I am very senative to 
 flaming  :D

For your penance, my son, do four decades of the Holy Rosary then take
a photo of that Rosary with a Pentax product, print the photo and burn
it all the while asking Ryohei Suzuki for forgiveness.

You may now go in peace...

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
Most of the material that the gannets find are actually nylon ropes
from all sorts of martime activities. Hard to collect for recycling.
But of course there is debris blown onto the waves from land based
households and enterprises too. Much of that is recycled, but far from
all.

One of the things I have a personal gripe with is plastic-wrapped
heybales (aka. tractor eggs). Many farmers leave them outdoors for
livestock to forage on when out. The animals tear off the plastic in
pieces, which is then distributed with the wind.

Jostein

2009/2/19 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 The trash we discard in the sea, the nets cut loose to ensnare dolphins,
 tuna, etc, are a disgrace. Worse yet are the plastic six pack (and eight
 pack) loops that get tangled up in birds legs and necks. At the dump
 primarily, but anywhere they are discarded.

 Please use a knife or scissors to cut every loop on those things (large and
 small) before they are discarded. Write to your local and state and federal
 representatives and try to get these things recycled instead of thrown away.
 Don't know if it does any good, but I use one of these to tie 25 or more
 together using the smallest hole, and cut all the other holes before placing
 them in the recycle bin. If your area recycles bundled plastic bags and/or
 gallon milk jugs, they may just recycle these items as well. Worth a try.

 Joe

 On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:07 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Read eg. page 2 in  this:
 http://www.adoptabeach.org.uk/downloads/strandline/winter2006.pdf

 It's  quite sad, really.

 Jostein

 =
 Thanks, Jostein.  Actually I wondered if that was it, if they were all
 over
 and I was seeing them  without realizing it.

 Marnie aka Doe  Darn,  sigh.

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
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 C'mon, Bob. You're putting me on, right? Or making jokes.
 An oblong is a squashed circle.

I thought oblong was a type of tea?

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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread AlunFoto
I thought it was an asian coin of some sort...
Jostein

2009/2/19 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:40 AM, keith_w keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:

 C'mon, Bob. You're putting me on, right? Or making jokes.
 An oblong is a squashed circle.

 I thought oblong was a type of tea?

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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/18/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

   Don't tell anyone.
   http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/general-talk/51045-pentax-book.html


 I always wondered why I didn't go over to Pentax Forums, and now I know why:

  This is a relaxed forum for ~intelligent~ conversation and discussion
  of topics unrelated to photography.

 I took a quick glance at their forums a couple years ago and didn't
 see any reason to stay.  Today, I surfed over there and clicked a few
 random threads.  Folks, from what I saw, there is considerably more
 useful information tossed around here in off-topic conversation.

I would not join any forum, that would have me as a member.

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Re: Geso Possible photos for our Chamber of Commerce Map.

2009-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:23 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Christine  Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Big congrats, Dave.  Hope goes as planned.  All are really great, especially
 the horse shots.  I most especially love this one:

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2009-chamber/album/slides/rural_ls_2181.html

 That's considered high-tech farming up there in Stouffville.

Thats the basic model, the high tech one has 3 horse power.

Dave

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Re: Geso Possible photos for our Chamber of Commerce Map.

2009-02-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 Just got a chance to see these, Dave. It's a very good collection and
 perfect for this kind of use. Just don't shoot yourself in the foot when it
 comes time to invoice.

If I do, i'll never get a chance to go on mountain goats hikes.

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Re: Assignment Help - HS Wrestling

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Ed Keeney ewkph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, it's all over...I did OK, but I think with more experience in
 the element of the gym I would probably do better.

 I shot RAW with the 50/1.4 the whole time and also used the flash - I
 couldn't get enough light to stop the wrestlers.

 Here are the keepers (38 out of almost 200)...

 http://ewkphoto.dotphoto.com/CPViewAlbum.asp?AID=5738149IID=211605592Page=1#

Some terrific shots there.

No mat?  Kids in your part of the world are pretty tough!

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Re: Assignment Help - HS Wrestling

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:00:39 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
No mat?  Kids in  your part of the world are pretty  tough!

cheers,
frank


I found that odd too. I  bet here, CA, has a law that you have to have a mat. 
They used a mat back when I  was in High School (and they use one now), and 
that was one heck of a long time  ago.

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RE: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread Bob W
 
 K 2.5 135mm on the *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second, handheld.
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Good shot. Looks like a girl's drink of some sort.

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Re: Whats with recent Pentax Camera names?

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:21 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:

 IIRC we can thank Wayne's World for the popularity of that practice.

Indeed.

And Mike Meyers, who played Wayne is from Scarborough (usually called
Scarberia by locals), a huge, bleak suburban wasteland on the east
side of Toronto.  Of course, whenever someone from within a 400
kilometre radius of Toronto does well, he is considered by
Torontonians to be from Toronto.

Therefore, on behalf of Torontonians everywhere, I accept your thanks.

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teleconverter experiment

2009-02-19 Thread Larry Colen
I did a quick experiment yesterday with my bigma and teleconverters,
and posted some examples and my notes at dpr:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=31052869

The question was, for extreme telephoto am I better with cropping, or
using a teleconverter, or multiple TCs. The answer seems to be it
depends. It seems to depend on a lot of factors, and I bet that the
results would be different with a 14mp K20 than with my 6mp K100, or a
D700. 


Despite the rig being on a tripod, I also probably should have tried
bumping the ISO, or maybe even under exposing some more. I think I
still got motion blur.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614103063616/

I could also try some tests at night, with a resolution chart target
and a flash to minimize motion blur. Then again, there's optical
performance and real world performance. It's still fun to play with.

The real result is that if you need that much magnification, you
aren't going to get clear photos on the cheap. It's still fun to
experiment with to get some idea what the limits really are.


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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/19/2009 7:20:18 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
K 2.5 135mm on the  *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second,  handheld.

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html

Comments  welcome.

cheers,
frank


Very dark on my monitor,  frank. (Actually the geso was pretty dark too, just 
didn't mention it because  you said you had problems post-processing. This 
one, however, is  darker.)

But it looks like he has a real dandy smirk. Maybe. If he does,  he really 
fits the image of a bar fly and I would like the photo (if I could see  it 
better).

Marnie  ;-)

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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread Bruce Walker

David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2/18/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:20 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

  Don't tell anyone.
  http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/general-talk/51045-pentax-book.html


I always wondered why I didn't go over to Pentax Forums, and now I know why:

 This is a relaxed forum for ~intelligent~ conversation and discussion
 of topics unrelated to photography.

I took a quick glance at their forums a couple years ago and didn't
see any reason to stay.  Today, I surfed over there and clicked a few
random threads.  Folks, from what I saw, there is considerably more
useful information tossed around here in off-topic conversation.


I would not join any forum, that would have me as a member.


I believe in clubs for photographers, but only if every other form of 
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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts

frank theriault wrote:

K 2.5 135mm on the *istD, wide open at 1/13th of a second, handheld.

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/barfly.html


Great shot!

From the expression on his face you'd think someone had just handed him 
a glass of weasel spit. Come to think of it, that may be what's in the 
glass.



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Re: PDML annual is a Blurb best seller!

2009-02-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/19/2009 11:22:07 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
I believe in clubs for  photographers, but only if every other form of 
persuasion  fails.


=
Mark!

Heh.

Marnie aka Doe  

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RE: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Bob W
 
  They must teach you some strange things in your schools. 
 JCO is quite
  correct - at least, our schools taught us that a rectangle is a
  quadrilateral with 4 right angles, so a square is a 
 rectangle. A rectangle
  with unequal sides is an oblong.
  
  Bob
 
 C'mon, Bob. You're putting me on, right? Or making jokes.
 An oblong is a squashed circle.
 
 keith
 

...with the corners kicked out.

And, of course, a circle is an ellipse, so by working backwards we have in
fact squared the circle.

Bob


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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Very dark on my monitor,  frank. (Actually the geso was pretty dark too, just
 didn't mention it because  you said you had problems post-processing. This
 one, however, is  darker.)

 But it looks like he has a real dandy smirk. Maybe. If he does,  he really
 fits the image of a bar fly and I would like the photo (if I could see  it
 better).


This is brightened quite a bit from the original, but I did leave it
darkish, because it was a really dark bar.  If I brightened it any
more than it is now it just didn't look right to my eye (and after
all, I was there).

Glad you liked the shot otherwise, Marnie.

cheers,
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OT: Irish jokes and Polish jokes

2009-02-19 Thread Bob W
you couldn't make it up:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm

Bob


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Re: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread Cory Papenfuss

 JC O'Connell


As you wish, JC.



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USA Purchase request

2009-02-19 Thread Cotty
Hi team,

I wouldn't ask if I didn't need the help, but I've exhausted every
avenue here...

I need a special bluetooth headset that I can't get here in the UK, and
sadly ALL the (few) US suppliers don't ship abroad.

Would someone be willing to purchase the item from a USA web site,
receive the item, send to me in the UK? I will of course reimburse all
expenses, either by Paypal (including fees) or by cold cash. We're
talking about 70 bucks for the headset plus postage etc.

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Re: PESO - The Barfly

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 Great shot!

 From the expression on his face you'd think someone had just handed him a
 glass of weasel spit. Come to think of it, that may be what's in the glass.

It's a new cocktail, called a Cloud of Weasels.  You don't want to
know what it's made from.  They used to have a lettro-numeric
designation for the cocktail but someone really didn't like the name,
kept mumbling something about tequila simulators, so in deference to
him they came up with this name.

Sadly, it hasn't caught on and sales have plummeted.  Go figger.

cheers,
frank

ps:  Seriously, it's a tequila bar (although they have some nice beer,
including the stout I was drinking all night), so to answer all those
who asked, he's likely holding a shot of tequila.  Thanks to all those
who looked and commented.

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Re: PESO - Back Garden and Frosted Local

2009-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/09, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just sent it-- heard back from Verizon that it is an international call.

Got it!

Yes, it will be an international call for me as well, but I have a
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Re: urban landscapes

2009-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 The theme for the photo meetup in Campbell (near San Jose) tonight is
 urban landscapes. I haven't had a lot of chance to shoot in cities,
 I've had a few chances to spend 20-30 minutes playing with my camera
 in SF, and a little over a year ago, I spent a week in NY (sleepy
 hollow actually).

 It was interesting to go back and revisit last years photos. I had
 only shot about 4000 frames on my K100 last January, and hadn't even
 started on post processing other than running batch files that called
 dcraw.  I was pleased at how little work they actually took, mostly
 exposure tweaking and highlight recovery.

 I suspect that the Cheyenne diner is one of the most photographed
 restaurants in the world. Not only is it pretty scenic, but it's
 across the street from BH. I had to test out my just purchased 28-200.

 http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614015431223/


I really like these!

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Cotty
I ordered on the 14th and it was shipped today :-)

But it's coming by banana boat - and so shows as 'non-trackable'...

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Re: urban landscapes

2009-02-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 03:02:28PM -0500, frank theriault wrote:

# 
#  http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614015431223/
# 
# 
# I really like these!

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RE: Amusing square-format dSLR rumor

2009-02-19 Thread John Celio
If one were to cram a square sensor into a 35mm-based body, wouldn't the
size of the mirror need to be increased vertically (assuming the sensor
is the same height and width as the width of the current sensor Pentax
uses)?  This is the reason I doubt a square sensor'd dSLR is on the way.
 The whole mirror box system would have to be redesigned to accommodate
the larger mirror without pushing the lens mount further out.  I don't
think Pentax could afford that kind of major RD.

I could be wrong, though.  I don't know the actual dimensions or any
related technical details.

It just seems incredibly unlikely to me, even though it's a pretty cool
idea.

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Re: The PDML Annual Has Arrived!

2009-02-19 Thread Dario Bonazza

Cotty wrote:


I ordered on the 14th and it was shipped today :-)

But it's coming by banana boat - and so shows as 'non-trackable'...

there's a recession on!



Apparently, my banana is in the same boat of yours. Let's hope they'll both 
have a safe cruise.


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