Re: Scott Bourne's Ego

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/24/2010 7:37 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

BTW: I have my own Twitter stream (http://twitter.com/gromitroberts).
I have never made a single post - oops, "Tweet" - to it, and my plan
is to *never* post any Tweets. My goal is to achieve Internet fame by
getting 100,000 Twitter followers without ever posting anything.

I'm up to 27 so far...
   
How the hell do you get followers if you never post?  Don't these people 
have a life?

I probably shouldn't be asking that question here...






   



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Re: PESO The PDML book submission that wasn't

[David Mann]

On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> Well I rather fancy the 2nd one - all are great, but there is
> something about it that catches my eye.  I think it might be the
> strip of land in the center of a pano...or something.

Yes it is interesting, it's a bit of a break from the usual horizontalness of 
panoramas.

I've always found pans to be really hard to do well.

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Re: they got back to me after all

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On 1/24/2010 6:22 PM, Bob W wrote:

I've never drunk a photographer.
   

me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur

 

I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs
   

oh did you? well guess what
I once humped one funky mama in the late fog

 

Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog
   

If the /dog's/ late at least you're /probably/ not the father...




   



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Re: Uzbek photographer on trial

[Sasha Sobol]

Here are some stuff about this case (beware of machine translation):
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Flibertysu.livejournal.com%2F1956.html&sl=ru&tl=en


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:08, Bob W wrote:
>
>> This is rather an alarming story:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm
>>
>
> Holy crap.  Those are great photos.  The Uzbek authorities should be pleased 
> that she has made the country look so beautiful (well, maybe not the 
> circumcision photo).
>
> I guess she should have stuck to tractors and apartment buildings.  Damn.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Le 25/01/2010 23:23, Charles Robinson a écrit :


http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp

I wonder how it is to handle?  I wonder if the photo quality is any good?

But it sure looks neato.  :-)

   

Look like a Digital 110 !! :-D



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Re: PESO The PDML book submission that wasn't

[Bruce Dayton]

Well I rather fancy the 2nd one - all are great, but there is
something about it that catches my eye.  I think it might be the
strip of land in the center of a pano...or something.

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Monday, January 25, 2010, 8:56:59 PM, you wrote:

RS> Well it, seemed like a good idea at the time, no point putting the
RS> edit to waste completely:

RS> http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/2009_pano_composite.jpg

RS> Critiques, comments and condemnations welcome ;-)

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Re: PESO = 'Doe see Doie'

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Wonderful shot.  Almost amusing with the one on the right.

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Monday, January 25, 2010, 5:07:22 PM, you wrote:

KW> Taken on a recent sunny afternoon - I thought they were gonna jump in the
KW> car !

KW> K10D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/250sec @ f16, 400 ISO, Handheld.

KW> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

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PESO The PDML book submission that wasn't

[Rob Studdert]

Well it, seemed like a good idea at the time, no point putting the
edit to waste completely:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/2009_pano_composite.jpg

Critiques, comments and condemnations welcome ;-)

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Re: PESO - Christ Church College, Oxford

[ann sanfedele]

I like it , Rick  
the "ghostly" figure makes it


ann

Rick Womer wrote:


I'm going through the thousands of pix I took in the UK last year, looking for 
book-worthy ones.  This one isn't, but I like it anyway.  Ideally, there would 
be more foreground below the guy's feet, but he was moving well and left little 
time for composition.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10570936&size=lg

(K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 200, f/3.5 @ 1/20)

At the top of the stairway, BTW, is the dining room used in the Harry Potter 
films.

Rick
 






 



 





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Re: PESO - Christ Church College, Oxford

[Rob Studdert]

On 26/01/2010, Rick Womer  wrote:
> I'm going through the thousands of pix I took in the UK last year, looking 
> for book-worthy ones.  This one isn't, but I like it anyway.  Ideally, there 
> would be more foreground below the guy's feet, but he was moving well and 
> left little time for composition.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10570936&size=lg
>
> (K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 200, f/3.5 @ 1/20)
>
> At the top of the stairway, BTW, is the dining room used in the Harry Potter 
> films.

Very cool, it's like a flashback, went there when I visited Cotty in 2001.

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PESO - Christ Church College, Oxford

[Rick Womer]

I'm going through the thousands of pix I took in the UK last year, looking for 
book-worthy ones.  This one isn't, but I like it anyway.  Ideally, there would 
be more foreground below the guy's feet, but he was moving well and left little 
time for composition.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10570936&size=lg

(K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 200, f/3.5 @ 1/20)

At the top of the stairway, BTW, is the dining room used in the Harry Potter 
films.

Rick


  


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Re: PESO = 'Doe see Doie'

[paul stenquist]

Superb. Great catch. Love the color.
Paul
On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Taken on a recent sunny afternoon - I thought they were gonna jump in the car 
> !
> 
> K10D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/250sec @ f16, 400 ISO, Handheld.
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RE: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp

I wonder how it is to handle?  I wonder if the photo quality is any good?

But it sure looks neato.   :-) 


Oh ho!! Don't guess it will take my old Auto-110 lenses though, will it.

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Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop

[John Sessoms]

From: "John Mullan"
Depending on your video card, a portion of your RAM may be allocated to 
graphics processor use, and thus subtracted from the available RAM numbers.


I thought of that, but according to the specs for the laptop, I don't 
think that's it.


It looks like 32-bit Vista will only "see" up to 3GB of RAM installed.

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PESO = 'Doe see Doie'

[Ken Waller]

Taken on a recent sunny afternoon - I thought they were gonna jump in the 
car !


K10D, 300mm f4.5 FA, 1/250sec @ f16, 400 ISO, Handheld.

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Peso Bus for John S.

[John Sessoms]

From: "P. J. Alling"

For some reason that conjures up a particularly distrubing mental image.



It's all due to a seafood diet.  I see food and I eat it.

Really, I could probably lose weight if I could just find some willpower.

I never could meet the screening weight after they instituted that in 
the National Guard. Instead I always had to test out at a low enough 
body fat.


Plus, I could always pass my PT test. Kind of amazed me that some of the 
skinniest guys couldn't pass their PT test, but it was OK because they 
met the height and weight standards.


I was not overweight, I was just three inches too short.

According to a cardiologist they had come in and talk to those of us who 
perennially struggled to meet weight standards, there is an ideal weight 
if you want to live to get VERY old while retaining good health.


That ideal weight is whatever you weighed when you graduated high school 
- assuming you weren't bulked up to play football. I wasn't, I was too 
damn SKINNY! I would have to lose 75 pounds to meet that ideal.


My "goal" is 50 pounds. I'd be happy with that.



On 1/24/2010 4:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> Cool. Congratulations.
>
> Looks like the only way I'm gonna' take off any weight is using the 
> liquefy tool in Photoshop.

>
> From: David J Brooks
>> Taken June 2008. Please note this was taken just before i lost 35 
>> pounds.

>>
>> This is old Laidlaw euipment.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2613123279/
>>
>> I hear this is what the new company runs.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3329582380/

>


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Re: When did it click

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> Bought my first camera at the age of ten. It was a little box camera that 
> took 610 film. I paid $2 for it. Those were 1958 dollars, so it would 
> probably cost around $15 today. I was fascinated by the way it could stop 
> motion and how the light and shadows played on film. I also started playing 
> in the darkroom soon thereafter, processing film and making contact prints. 
> Still have a few pics I shot with my first camera.
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Re: SDM Failure

[paul stenquist]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 6:11 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: mike wilson
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>>> > If you have a car that only gets used for short, short trips, it is a > 
>>> > good idea to get it out on the highway once in a while just to get it up 
>>> > > to a high enough operating temperature to boil the condensed water 
>>> > vapor > out of the oil
>> If your oil (although some true synthetics may alter this premise) is up 
>> over 100degreesC you are in trouble.  Even more, if you can get it anywhere 
>> up there, whilst it is being actively cooled by the engine design, you have 
>> travelled a long, long, long, lng way.  And even more, if you are 
>> seriously mayonnaised you are going to do irrepairable damage to the motor.
>> Just change it.  Less fuel, less danger, less wear and tear.
> 
> I'm sure I worded it all wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. But I don't think 
> the engine oil actually has to get to the boiling point of water to evaporate 
> the moisture.

Motor oil can easily reach 100• C when driving at sustained high speed in warm 
weather. What's more oil on the upper cylinder walls can exceed 150• C. Water 
evaporates rapidly at these temperatures.
A lack of high-speed driving will also lead to water accumulation in the 
exhaust system, shortening the life of the muffler and pipes. Of course the 
exhaust parts of newer cars are more corrosion resistant than those on older 
vehicles, but they're not high-grade stainless. They'll still corrode if 
exposed to constant moisture.
Paul
> 
> The idea intended was that an automobile needs to occasionally be taken out 
> and driven enough to get it up to and keep it up at proper operating 
> temperature for an extended time - more than a few minutes.
> 
> The car will last longer if you do that than it will if you only use it for 
> short trips and never do really get it up to proper operating temperature.
> 
> And it IS a good idea to change the oil once in a while. AND check the oil 
> once in a while between changes.
> 
> I guess the thing is this. I've been seeing a lot about electric cars lately. 
> They seem to be good for about 45 miles per charge.
> 
> If all of your driving is such that an electric car could do the job on one 
> or two charges a week, but you have a regular automobile - that regular 
> automobile will serve you better, last longer ... if you do take it out on 
> the highway for a couple of hours every couple of weeks.
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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening

[John Sessoms]

From: Ralf R. Radermacher

Thibouille  wrote:


> Never thought I'd love those animals so much.


Know what you mean. Been through this with our first two cats, ten years
ago. 


Yeah. You got to go through it if you ever have pets. Lots better though 
to love and lose than to never love.


I've been through it with about eight dogs and half a dozen cats. Bailey 
just last year, and I don't know how long Baxter will last. I had a pair 
of cats before I got Bailey and Baxter, and they went six months apart.


At least Baxter's managed to beat that.

Thibouille, I hope you will feel better soon.

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[John Francis]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:06:04PM +, Cotty wrote:
> On 25/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
> 
> 
> I tell you what, they do a better job of it than some of the journos at
> our place!

Fortunately they haven't yet learned to drive Land Rovers ...


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RE: When did it click

[John Sessoms]

From: Derby Chang
Friend-shooter of mind asked me today, when did it click for you? When 
did you know photography was the game to be in? Oddly, unlike a lot of 
my past history, I could pinpoint exactly the moment


I was sent out by my then-employer to do some work in Simi Valley, CA. 
Bored, I picked up a Ricoh KR-10M with a modest Rikonen zoom (both long 
since stolen). Landing on the weekend, I went for a drive down PCH to 
adjust my body clock, with a plan to visit the Getty museum. After being 
rejected because I hadn't booked, and after finding a not quite legal 
park on the beach, I saw a pretty lady with a pet pig. Not understanding 
the honourable history of street photography, I begged her to let me 
take a photo, which she did, to my gratitude. It could have gone the 
other way, but that shot made me think, there was something to this 
hobby. Fine-boned ladies will let you take their picture with their pig, 
what's not to enjoy?


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_01/10_01_click/index.htm

So.when did it first click for you?


I can't really say when. It was somewhere between 1959 and 2004.

My first camera was an old Kodak Brownie that had belonged to my 
grandmother. She died just before I turned 10. She was a studio 
photographer back in the 1920s, but lost her studio in the depression.


I've been taking photos off and on ever since.

I guess "it clicked" for me that I could pursue photography as a 
profession during my Iraq deployment in 2004.


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Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp

Yes indeed. Very cute.. Hopefully it's also a decent camera.

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Re: When did it click

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 1:44 AM, Derby Chang wrote:



Friend-shooter of mind asked me today, when did it click for you?  
When did you know photography was the game to be in? Oddly, unlike a  
lot of my past history, I could pinpoint exactly the moment



It's funny, I don't think I ever had one of those defining moments.  I  
don't even know if I consider it *THE* game.


It is, however, something that I've enjoyed ever since Dad taught me  
how to use his Spotmatic II in '73 (I was 12), and I had a blast  
playing in the darkroom over the next 10 years.


I remember taking my FZ20 to burning man in '06 and having a blast  
staying up all night taking photos most of that week. That was the  
week that I really started to learn digital. I was frustrated with the  
controls, upgraded to an fz50, which I loved apart from the poor low  
light capability.  When that was stolen I decided to get a cheap DSLR  
to last me a couple of years until I could afford something decent.  
All of a sudden I realized that I was spending a lot of time with it,  
and averaging about 100 frames a day. In large part because digital is  
so cheap to shoot that I can afford to experiment and bracket in 4  
dimensions to try to learn what works in each situation.


So, it wasn't so much "the moment it clicked" as slowly realizing that  
I spend way too much time, money and effort on photography.


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Re: Trafalgar Square Photographer's Demo

[Ira H. Bryant IV]

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:09:22 -0500
John Sessoms  wrote:

> 
> Ooh ... ooh ooh!
> 
> I have *SO* fallen in LUST!
> 
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/notaterrorist/slides/_IGP1749.html
> 

You can buy one here: 

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RE: Trafalgar Square Photographer's Demo

[John Sessoms]

From: "Chris Mitchell"

Ooh ... ooh ooh!
> 
> I have *SO* fallen in LUST!
> 
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/notaterrorist/slides/_IGP1749.html
> 

For just a moment I thought you meant this one:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/notaterrorist/slides/_IGP5543.html

(I'm referring to the Bronica, of course).

Chris


I do have a Bronica, and that looks like an ETRS, plus it's got the 
right kind of mounting plate attached to the bottom ... but, I'm just a 
sucker for varnished hardwood, polished aluminum and big beautiful glass.


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Re: Scott Bourne's Ego

[John Sessoms]

From: "John Celio"
Jeeze.  Bourne is pretty famous.  I thought more people here knew of the guy 
and might appreciate knowing how he treats people who disagree with him. 
Sorry to waste your precious bandwidth.


John


Considering all the electrons that die here in needless pun threads, 
don't worry about it.


I never heard about him before, but now I know, and I wouldn't have if 
you hadn't posted.


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Re: GESO - Assateague Island Ponies

[John Sessoms]

From: paul stenquist

On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:39 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Tom C  wrote:

>> I was going to debate whether these were ponies or >horses.

> Ponies are up to 14-3 hands hi, horse start at 14-3. Thes are ponies.;-)
> 

And a horse is a horse of course.



Of course.

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Anyone for a PDML meet in China?

[John Sessoms]

I've been sitting on this for a while until I was certain the dream will 
come true. Some of the details are a little unsettled but here's what I 
have ...


One of the instructors where I went to photography school (where I plan 
to resume studies this summer) is organizing a student trip to China. I 
have been invited to go along.


The dates will be either April 2 - 11 or May 8 - 17. The itinerary is 
equally vague just yet, but the previous trip in 2009 went to Shanghai, 
WuZhen, Nanjing, Beijing and the Great Wall. The trip is one day of 
travel on each end, with seven full days on the ground in China.


This is going to be a great trip for photography because it's being 
coordinated with the School of Photojournalism at Nanjing Normal 
University. We should have students from the school along with us at 
least part of the time and the whole tour is being organized around 
photography.


Anyway, I know there is at least one PDMLer in China, and I would like 
to see if there might be any possibility of a meet up. The instructor 
assured me I will be some opportunity to go off to do my own thing.


I've been in touch with the instructor this week, and expect to have the 
final dates and tentative itinerary soon.


I do expect to be back home in time for GFM.

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Re: Was: SDM Failure. Now: Definitely OT

[eckinator]

> This was the first year Porsche put the water cooled engine in the 911

IMVHO this was the year they first held the match to the legend =(

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RE: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[Bob W]

> >Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?
> 
> That's not so much an issue as those horrible unexplained raw 
> patches on my ass.
> 

Aren't you the one they call Sally?

Bob


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RE: When did it click

[Bob W]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of Cotty
> 
[...]

> I was 16. Still am.

M!


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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[Cotty]

On 26/1/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?

That's not so much an issue as those horrible unexplained raw patches on
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Re: When did it click

[Cotty]

Okay I'll bite.

Given a no-name twin lens reflex when I was 9 by a friend of the family
to photograph a sea voyage between Liverpool and Montreal that I made
with my mother and grandmother and a sister to rejoin my father and
other sister in California. (Montreal to Vancouver by train). Later used
my mum's Instamatic a lot. Then I wandered the streets of Southport (UK)
carrying my dad's 8mm movie camera, filming anything that moved. I was
16. Still am.

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Re: SDM Failure

[John Sessoms]

From: mike wilson

John Sessoms wrote:
 
> If you have a car that only gets used for short, short trips, it is a 
> good idea to get it out on the highway once in a while just to get it up 
> to a high enough operating temperature to boil the condensed water vapor 
> out of the oil


If your oil (although some true synthetics may alter this premise) is up 
over 100degreesC you are in trouble.  Even more, if you can get it 
anywhere up there, whilst it is being actively cooled by the engine 
design, you have travelled a long, long, long, lng way.  And even 
more, if you are seriously mayonnaised you are going to do irrepairable 
damage to the motor.


Just change it.  Less fuel, less danger, less wear and tear.


I'm sure I worded it all wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. But I don't 
think the engine oil actually has to get to the boiling point of water 
to evaporate the moisture.


The idea intended was that an automobile needs to occasionally be taken 
out and driven enough to get it up to and keep it up at proper operating 
temperature for an extended time - more than a few minutes.


The car will last longer if you do that than it will if you only use it 
for short trips and never do really get it up to proper operating 
temperature.


And it IS a good idea to change the oil once in a while. AND check the 
oil once in a while between changes.


I guess the thing is this. I've been seeing a lot about electric cars 
lately. They seem to be good for about 45 miles per charge.


If all of your driving is such that an electric car could do the job on 
one or two charges a week, but you have a regular automobile - that 
regular automobile will serve you better, last longer ... if you do take 
it out on the highway for a couple of hours every couple of weeks.


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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[David Savage]

2010/1/26 Bob W :
> At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
>
> Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
> on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
> before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?

:-D

DS

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Re: they got back to me after all

[Cotty]

On 25/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A cormorant isn't a bird, it's a state of mind.

Oh Bob you don't realise how blessed you are.

MARK.

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[Cotty]

On 25/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm


I tell you what, they do a better job of it than some of the journos at
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Re: OT A ??? for the bike crowd

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

>
> Its amazing what WD 40 can do.
> Get new brake pads while you're at it.
>
I need them for the Norco anyway.

I tried last year to tighten the rear by my self, now i just coast to a stop.:-)

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Re: they got back to me after all

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Cotty  wrote:
>
>
>>I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty
>
> I've done some fowl things tis true

Winging it now i see.

Dave
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Re: Semi-OT: SCORE!!!

[David J Brooks]

I have one that came with the D1. Used it for two seasons of indoor
horse shows, then i bought the SB80DX.

Worked great

Dave

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Anyway, after wasting about an hour of their time, as I was getting ready to
> leave, I noticed something sitting in one of the display cases behind the
> counter and asked to see it - Vivitar 285HV strobe.
>
> The Strobist loves 'em, and it was my small format instructor's favorite off
> camera flash.
>
> When he handed it to me, there was no price tag on it, so I offered him $75.
> He said that sounded fair to him, so I've added another 285HV to my
> equippage. That makes 3.
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Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[John Francis]

It comes it two colours - black and chrome.
(I wonder if the black one costs more?)


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 02:27:31PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> What!  No colors?
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Monday, January 25, 2010, 2:23:42 PM, you wrote:
> 
> CR> http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp
> 
> CR> I wonder how it is to handle?  I wonder if the photo quality is any good?
> 
> CR> But it sure looks neato.  :-)
> 
> CR>  -Charles
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Semi-OT: SCORE!!!

[John Sessoms]

Wasted a little time this afternoon in my local independent camera store.

There wasn't a lot there I was interested in, as they can no longer 
order direct from Pentax. But I keep going in because they are a souce 
for other items I want/need, and they do occasionally have used Pentax gear.


They're now stocking the Sniper Sling & the Black something-or-other 
RH-4, RH-5 & DH-1 straps that were discussed here a couple of days ago, 
so I got to play with them a little to see what they're really like.


One thing I didn't know, that didn't come up in the discussion here, and 
I didn't see on the web sites -  the Sniper Sling has a steel cable 
embedded in the strap so no one is likely to sneak up behind you, cut 
the strap, grab your camera and run off with it. The guy behind the 
counter said that is apparently a street crime problem in some places. 
Something I hadn't really thought about before.


Anyway, after wasting about an hour of their time, as I was getting 
ready to leave, I noticed something sitting in one of the display cases 
behind the counter and asked to see it - Vivitar 285HV strobe.


The Strobist loves 'em, and it was my small format instructor's favorite 
off camera flash.


When he handed it to me, there was no price tag on it, so I offered him 
$75. He said that sounded fair to him, so I've added another 285HV to my 
equippage. That makes 3.


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RE: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[John Celio]

> http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp
> 
> I wonder how it is to handle? I wonder if the photo quality is any good?
> 
> But it sure looks neato. :-)

With a P&S-sized sensor, it's probably not going to replace anyone's
dSLR, but it would sure look nice next to my Auto110.  It's got a decent
feature set and good zoom range, too.

The new H90 is butt-ugly, though.  Whoever designed that one needs to be
slapped.

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Still ... er, Sticky Life

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Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[Bruce Dayton]

What!  No colors?

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Monday, January 25, 2010, 2:23:42 PM, you wrote:

CR> http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp

CR> I wonder how it is to handle?  I wonder if the photo quality is any good?

CR> But it sure looks neato.  :-)

CR>  -Charles

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Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute

[Charles Robinson]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1001/10012505pentaxoptioi10.asp

I wonder how it is to handle?  I wonder if the photo quality is any good?

But it sure looks neato.  :-)

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Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop

[John Mullan]

Actually, XP came later than 2K.  The kernel from 2K was the basis for XP. 
2K and ME were both released in 2000, ME as a Win 98 replacement and 2K as a 
Win NT replacement.Memorable Windows releases: CE ME NT, all rock solid 
performers.


jm
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From: "Adam Maas" 

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 1:09 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:




Win2K was a better OS from the start than XP. It's taken a long time to 
get
drivers for a lot of things, (I remember having to run my Printer shared 
on

a Win98 box because the Win2K driver refused to install on Win2K).. The
only thing that killed my last Win2K system was hardware failure. I guess
2000 just didn't have enough eye candy for MS marketing.



Windows 2000 is little more than XP without DirectX (early versions of
the DX being the primary source of the problems with XP, DX didn't get
stable until DX8). The later servicepacks of XP were distinct
improvements over Win2k. And you could turn off the eyecandy easily,
all of my XP installs had the Win2K UI enabled.

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Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop

[John Mullan]

Depending on your video card, a portion of your RAM may be allocated to 
graphics processor use, and thus subtracted from the available RAM numbers.


jm
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop



From: "P. J. Alling"

The fact that you can't see the additional memory could be a Bios
limitation, not an OS limitation. On 1/20/2010 3:12 PM, John Sessoms 
wrote:



Took my laptop in this morning and had 4GB RAM installed (up from
2GB).

Turns out Windows Vista Ultimate is only 32bit and limits the
amount of RAM it can use to supposedly 3.5GB - System Information
is showing 3,069.44MB which I make to be 2.99GB.

Don't know why it doesn't show the whole 3.5GB.


No, it's Windows. I think the guy at the store who told me 32bit Vista 
would see 3.5GB got it wrong; apparently 3GB is correct.


It certainly saw the increase from the 2GB originally installed. The 
Windows 7 Adviser tool shows the machine is 64-bit capable, and Toshiba 
does not have any outstanding BIOS updates for this model.


I've done a complete systems backup; installed all the patches and service 
updates and have run into only one problem.


I turned the touchpad (that little glide thingy) OFF and can't remember 
how to turn it back on. For some reason, the updated driver won't install 
with it turned off.


Anyway, I've decided to replace the boot drive with a new 500GB 7200 RPM 
SATA drive and do a clean install of Windows 7 64-bit on it. I'll replace 
the second hard drive as well, but not right now. I'm thinking a 1TB 
notebook drive might be affordable by the time I'm ready to replace the 
second drive.


I'm still studying on the software transfer/migration tools, but I might 
just do clean installs of the programs I really use. These things come 
with a lot of crap installed, and a lot of it I was afraid to remove 
because I was afraid it'd screw it up.


I may go to an upgrade to 64-bit CS4 instead of trying to migrate my 
32-bit CS3, although I was kind of hoping CS5 would be on the way by now.


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OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

[Bob W]

At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm

Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

Bob


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Re: GESO - Assateague Island Ponies

[Tom C]

Thanks Christian.  I did see what looked like a Blue Heron but was too
far away without the zoom.  It looks like a great place for both
seabirds and other water birds with all the swampy ponds around there.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Christian  wrote:
> Nice shots, Tom.  I go to Asseteague just about every year (My parents live
> on the MD DE border) and love shooting the ponies.  There are some great
> opportunities for wading birds too.
>
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>
> Tom C wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Ann.
>>
>> I found this difficult because for one, they had their heads in the
>> grass chowing down 95% of the time. The bright sky also made it
>> difficult, combined with the fact that my zoom I had with me was out
>> of commission.  In addition to not working in AF, it appears to be
>> locked/stopped down at minimum aperture so when it's on the camera I
>> can barely see anything through it.  Almost all of these are with the
>> 31 LTD.
>>
>> Despite being wild they seem acclimated to humans in spite of all the
>> NPS warnings not to feed or touch.  I got within 5 or 6 feet of them.
>> I observed autos stopped with people petting them through the window.
>>
>> It was worth the 6 hour RT + 4 or 5 hours there.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom, these are lovely!
>>>
>>> The light is just right for them, nice detail with no glaring sun. These
>>> looked healthier than
>>> the critters I met back in the 1980's - but I notice they are equally
>>> tame..
>>>  I still calls 'em ponies - not that they aren't horses in a broader
>>> sense
>>> , of course.  ;-)
>>> ann
>>>
>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>
 I was going to debate whether these were ponies or horses.  I guess
 it's sort of like arguing over whether a lion can correctly be called
 a cat or not.  It seems that even the equine experts don't agree. The
 people most closely associated with these horses often refer to them
 as ponies, which differ from standard horses in a number of ways,
 predominantly being smaller in stature.  From what I read, if a foal
 of one of these ponies is taken out of the harsh island habitat and
 put out to a normal horse pasture and feeds on a normal horse diet,
 they grow to the full stature of a horse.

 I was happy I went and it was a fun trip.  Of course no wild horse
 running through the surf, especially not on a cold, blustery winter
 day.  Most of these look better if you double-click on the normal
 sized image to enlarge it further.

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Re: When did it click

[Tim Bray]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> Friend-shooter of mind asked me today, when did it click for you? When did
> you know photography was the game to be in? Oddly, unlike a lot of my past
> history, I could pinpoint exactly the moment

Dad always had a camera, first a Baldini, then a Pentax.  I shot a bit
as a kid, then when I went to university I became active on the
student paper.  We shot on Tri-X (I have no recollection of what the
cameras were) and had a darkroom, and one week I got to take one of my
own shots (of a new mainframe computer the University had bought) and
recompose it on our clunky enlarger - ah, those darkroom smells - and
then see it in the paper; then I knew.  -T

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RE: they got back to me after all

[Bob W]

> >
> >>shacking up with a cocky hotpant cormorant
> >
> > That's gotta be a T shirt eh?
> 
> I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty
> 

A cormorant isn't a bird, it's a state of mind.

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Re: they got back to me after all

[John Graves]

Cotty wrote:
  

I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty



I've done some fowl things tis true

  

Anything to feather your own nest!

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Re: GESO - The March

[272yb]

Frank, good street photos, but do you know what a democracy is ? Two wolves and 
a lamb deciding what is for lunch. Also known as mob rule...Joe

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Subject: Re: GESO - The March

frank theriault wrote:
> After yesterday's anti-prorogue rally there was a march through the
> streets.  It was all set up with the cops ahead of time and everything
> went nice and smoothly:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/march.html
> 
>  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

Excellent set, frank.  You could be like a photojournalist or something :-)

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Re: Uzbek photographer on trial

[Charles Robinson]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 3:08, Bob W wrote:

> This is rather an alarming story:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm
> 

Holy crap.  Those are great photos.  The Uzbek authorities should be pleased 
that she has made the country look so beautiful (well, maybe not the 
circumcision photo).  

I guess she should have stuck to tractors and apartment buildings.  Damn.

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RE: When did it click

[Bob W]

> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_01/10_01_click/index.htm
> 
> So.when did it first click for you?
> 

I used to watch the Vietnam war on TV and look at the pictures in the papers
when I was a kid. The people I admired were the reporters, cameramen and
photographers. 

I was given a camera for my 12th or 13th birthday, some sort of Instamatic.
I had no idea why my pictures were all rubbish, but I persisted, and learned
by trying to imitate photographers I admired. 

Not having a war of my own to photograph, I had to try and imitate
Cartier-Bresson's pictures taken in the streets.

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Re: GESO - Assateague Island Ponies

[Christian]

Nice shots, Tom.  I go to Asseteague just about every year (My parents 
live on the MD DE border) and love shooting the ponies.  There are some 
great opportunities for wading birds too.



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Tom C wrote:

Thanks Ann.

I found this difficult because for one, they had their heads in the
grass chowing down 95% of the time. The bright sky also made it
difficult, combined with the fact that my zoom I had with me was out
of commission.  In addition to not working in AF, it appears to be
locked/stopped down at minimum aperture so when it's on the camera I
can barely see anything through it.  Almost all of these are with the
31 LTD.

Despite being wild they seem acclimated to humans in spite of all the
NPS warnings not to feed or touch.  I got within 5 or 6 feet of them.
I observed autos stopped with people petting them through the window.

It was worth the 6 hour RT + 4 or 5 hours there.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:19 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Tom, these are lovely!

The light is just right for them, nice detail with no glaring sun. These
looked healthier than
the critters I met back in the 1980's - but I notice they are equally tame..
  I still calls 'em ponies - not that they aren't horses in a broader sense
, of course.  ;-)
ann

Tom C wrote:


I was going to debate whether these were ponies or horses.  I guess
it's sort of like arguing over whether a lion can correctly be called
a cat or not.  It seems that even the equine experts don't agree. The
people most closely associated with these horses often refer to them
as ponies, which differ from standard horses in a number of ways,
predominantly being smaller in stature.  From what I read, if a foal
of one of these ponies is taken out of the harsh island habitat and
put out to a normal horse pasture and feeds on a normal horse diet,
they grow to the full stature of a horse.

I was happy I went and it was a fun trip.  Of course no wild horse
running through the surf, especially not on a cold, blustery winter
day.  Most of these look better if you double-click on the normal
sized image to enlarge it further.

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Re: they got back to me after all

[Cotty]

>I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty

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Re: OT A ??? for the bike crowd

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: Re: OT A ??? for the bike crowd



Had a look at mine last night after i gave up tossing garbage into the
roofing bin.

Brakes move and the front actually rubs against the rim, the back
looks a bit worn out, but the cables move. The derailer for the two
gears at the peddles moves but the derailer for the 5 rear gears looks
ceased.

Chain moves and i don't see any stuck links. Tires as i mentioned are
rotten and even the kick stand , which has been on for 20 odd years,,
is free.


Its amazing what WD 40 can do.
Get new brake pads while you're at it.



I'll see what they want for a tune up and tires for this.,

Dave

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, paul stenquist  
wrote:
I have a Nishiki ? mountain bike that's about 23 years old. It's hanging 
in the garage. Hasn't been ridden in at least 17 years. I'm thinking 
about getting it in shape. I did a lot of bike maintenance as a kid, but 
haven't touched one since. The derailleur mechanism looks a bit daunting, 
but I suspect I can figure it out. At the moment, the chain is off and 
everything is filthy.

Paul
On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:35 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bob W  wrote:

used for at least 20 plus years. The tires have just about rotten
off, the cables are a bit ceased and dusty.

Worth getting it "tuned up"??

I currently ride a 1990 Norco 21 speed mountain bike


Probably worth doing it up yourself rather than paying

someone else to

do it.

Bob


How hard is it to change a bike tire. I have never done this my self.



It's a doddle. You could probably find a basic maintenance course which
would last a day, cost next to nothing (other than parts) and take you
through stuff like changing tyres and cables, adjusting the gears and
cleaning it properly. If the bike hasn't been used for that long you'll
probably need new wheels too, but fitting them takes seconds.

Bob


OR, invite Frank up for a beer.

Dave



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Re: GESO - At the Square

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:

We had a little protest here in Toronto today.  About 10,000 showed up
at Yonge-Dundas Square downtown to protest the Harper government's
decision to prorogue parliament until after the Vancouver Olympics.
There were similar demonstrations across the country.

Here are a few shots from the rally:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/at-square.html

They then took to the streets, circled downtown for a bit and ended up
back at the square.  I don't know that it's going to make a whit of
difference, but it was good clean democratic fun.

Tomorrow or Monday I'll post some pix from the marching part.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



another excellent set.  You are in my hate list for "street 
photojournalists" :-)


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Re: GESO - The March

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:

After yesterday's anti-prorogue rally there was a march through the
streets.  It was all set up with the cops ahead of time and everything
went nice and smoothly:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/march.html

 Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



Excellent set, frank.  You could be like a photojournalist or something :-)

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Re: Peso Bus for John S.

[P. J. Alling]

For some reason that conjures up a particularly distrubing mental image.


On 1/24/2010 4:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Cool. Congratulations.

Looks like the only way I'm gonna' take off any weight is using the 
liquefy tool in Photoshop.


From: David J Brooks
Taken June 2008. Please note this was taken just before i lost 35 
pounds.


This is old Laidlaw euipment.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/2613123279/

I hear this is what the new company runs.
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Re: OT: PESO (x2) Fun in the Studio

[Christian]

David Savage wrote:

G'day All.

I went for a bit of a wander around Fremantle with a few like minded
photography buffs for some location strobist style shooting. After
that we retired back to a friends studio for beer, pizza and studio
shenanigans. Here are a couple from the studio :

Little Bo Peep (AKA Jo, partner and frequent model for another
photograhper mate). This was just a quick grab shot while she was
playing around with the studios prop hat.



Direct link (~200kb)

D700, AF-S 24-70mm f2.8 @ 24mm, 1/50 @ f4, ISO 100

And this is Nick, a mate & IMHO an awesome street photographer.



Direct link (~115kb)

D700 AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f16, ISO 400

Both lit using an octobox. For Jo, above and slightly in front, camera
right. For Nick, directly above.


That second shot is just great.  Love the tones.  very cool.

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Re: Uzbek photographer on trial

[Tom C]

Totally ridiculous.  Of course if they did not want negative publicity
they have a strange way going about achieving it.  Where almost no one
would have known about the photographer or her photos, now the 'whole
world' does, plus they're painting a negative view of their country
with regard to liberty and human rights.

Gotta appreciate someone who can shoot themselves in the foot like
that.  Maybe he'll destroy his own career in the end.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> This is rather an alarming story:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm
>
> Some countries seem to lack self-confidence. I have frequently been asked
> while abroad not to photograph 'backward' aspects of a country. This
> typically means beggars, but often extends to normal traditional life,
> especially rural, as if the retention of such aspects were shameful and the
> only things to be proud of were hideous tower blocks and nuclear power
> stations.
>
> Bob
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Was: SDM Failure. Now: Definitely OT

[Joseph Tainter]

Hmm, mayonnaised, never heard it called that but the water to oil
inter-cooler in my Porsche blew an o-ring, the oil and water were
literally like mayo but the engine survived quite well.

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Ah, a man I understand. I have a 1999 911 Carrera, bought last April 
with 47,000 miles on it. This was the first year Porsche put the water 
cooled engine in the 911. There have been too many reports of just the 
problem you mention. You are lucky your engine is still intact. In not 
acknowledging the problem, Porsche has behaved just like Pentax.


At least we don't have to worry about SDM failure.

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On eBay.

[Gaëtan Beauchamp]

Hello everyone,
On eBay, a K10D at 420 $ CAD and a DA 14mm F2.8 at 631 $ CAD.
Gaetan Beauchamp

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Re: they got back to me after all

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:

>On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Cotty  wrote:
>> On 25/1/10, eckinator, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>>shacking up with a cocky hotpant cormorant
>>
>> That's gotta be a T shirt eh?
>
>I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty

No reason it can't be both:
http://www.cafepress.com/Robertstech.218246788


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Re: OT A ??? for the bike crowd

[Scott Loveless]

On 1/24/10, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
> How hard is it to change a bike tire. I have never done this my self.

http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=100

Working on bikes is a lot like photography.  You can never have too
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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Rats are great friends. Sorry to hear she's gone. Their lives are too brief. :-(

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
> She was more a cat than a rat, really.
> 1.5 year old was early, even for a rat.
> She'll be missed pretty much.
>
> Never thought I'd love those animals so much.
>
> My best shot of her (and one of my best shots ever, IMO), resized for web.
>
> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7825/jojoee.jpg
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Re: OT A ??? for the bike crowd

[David J Brooks]

Had a look at mine last night after i gave up tossing garbage into the
roofing bin.

Brakes move and the front actually rubs against the rim, the back
looks a bit worn out, but the cables move. The derailer for the two
gears at the peddles moves but the derailer for the 5 rear gears looks
ceased.

Chain moves and i don't see any stuck links. Tires as i mentioned are
rotten and even the kick stand , which has been on for 20 odd years,,
is free.

I'll see what they want for a tune up and tires for this.,

Dave

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> I have a Nishiki ? mountain bike that's about 23 years old. It's hanging in 
> the garage. Hasn't been ridden in at least 17 years. I'm thinking about 
> getting it in shape. I did a lot of bike maintenance as a kid, but haven't 
> touched one since. The derailleur mechanism looks a bit daunting, but I 
> suspect I can figure it out. At the moment, the chain is off and everything 
> is filthy.
> Paul
> On Jan 24, 2010, at 7:35 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> used for at least 20 plus years. The tires have just about rotten
>> off, the cables are a bit ceased and dusty.
>>
>> Worth getting it "tuned up"??
>>
>> I currently ride a 1990 Norco 21 speed mountain bike
>
> Probably worth doing it up yourself rather than paying
 someone else to
> do it.
>
> Bob

 How hard is it to change a bike tire. I have never done this my self.

>>>
>>> It's a doddle. You could probably find a basic maintenance course which
>>> would last a day, cost next to nothing (other than parts) and take you
>>> through stuff like changing tyres and cables, adjusting the gears and
>>> cleaning it properly. If the bike hasn't been used for that long you'll
>>> probably need new wheels too, but fitting them takes seconds.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> OR, invite Frank up for a beer.
>>
>> Dave
>>>
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Re: PAW - and new web site

[David J Brooks]

Nice site and a great paw shot

Dave

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM, DagT  wrote:
> A few years ago a did have a PAW (picture-a-week) but gave it up.  Now, I´ve 
> made a new web site and some more time. The kids are getting big and I got 
> tired of the old web forum I used, www.foto.no
>
> So, here´s the first PAW
> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1002-full.html
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Re: they got back to me after all

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 25/1/10, eckinator, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>shacking up with a cocky hotpant cormorant
>
> That's gotta be a T shirt eh?

I;'m pretty sure a cormorant is a bird Cotty

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Re: finished my roll of film

[P N Stenquist]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 9:35 AM, John Graves wrote:

So this means I should keep the M3 and assorted lenses I inherited  
from my Dad?


No, that equipment is just going to distract you from doing real  
photography. Too complicated, too messy. Send everything to me, and I  
will distribute the lot to poor children.  It will be an excellent tax  
deduction for you.

Paul

 I think I have a couple of stainless (hah) cans and reels somewhere  
in the garage.  A couple of plastic bottles and a can developer  
(who's making developer now??) I can scan negatives with my ancient  
Photosmart scanner (the original but it sounds as though I want to  
pick  up a flatbed for serious (Well, semi-serious) work.  I have  
never been really happy with the HP.


John Graves
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paul stenquist wrote:

On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote:
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, paul stenquist > wrote:
I think I'll just see what I can do scanning from film on my  
flatbed Epson 3200.

Then again, maybe I'll get ambitious:-).


Paul,

The 3200 can scan film, no?
Yes. I was surprised, once again, that the 3200 can actually  
deliver very respectable results scanning 35mm negatives. The scans  
are good enough to make nice 11 x 14 prints. A top end dedicated  
film scanner would, of course, be much better. But without having  
to stand up to a side-by-side comparison, the flatbed scans look  
good.

Paul

I have an Epson 1650 and I use it to scan film, if I need to.

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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[David J Brooks]

Sorry to hear this sad news.

Its always sad to lose a family pet.

Dave

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
> She was more a cat than a rat, really.
> 1.5 year old was early, even for a rat.
> She'll be missed pretty much.
>
> Never thought I'd love those animals so much.
>
> My best shot of her (and one of my best shots ever, IMO), resized for web.
>
> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7825/jojoee.jpg
>
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: When did it click

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On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:34 AM, William Robb  wrote:
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> - Original Message - From: "Derby Chang"
> Subject: When did it click
>
>
>
>> So.when did it first click for you?

About the age of 11 or 12. Dad was into photography and passed down a
Kodak box camera for me to try. I wandered around my Grandmothers home
in Bolton, took a bit of shots.
It was not until Dad and I went to the dark room did it click, when i
saw the negs and a final product.
Hooked after that.

Dave
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Re: finished my roll of film

[John Graves]

So this means I should keep the M3 and assorted lenses I inherited from 
my Dad?  I think I have a couple of stainless (hah) cans and reels 
somewhere in the garage.  A couple of plastic bottles and a can 
developer (who's making developer now??) I can scan negatives with my 
ancient Photosmart scanner (the original but it sounds as though I want 
to pick  up a flatbed for serious (Well, semi-serious) work.  I have 
never been really happy with the HP.


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paul stenquist wrote:

On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote:


On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:

I think I'll just see what I can do scanning from film on my flatbed Epson 3200.
Then again, maybe I'll get ambitious:-).


Paul,

The 3200 can scan film, no?


Yes. I was surprised, once again, that the 3200 can actually deliver very 
respectable results scanning 35mm negatives. The scans are good enough to make 
nice 11 x 14 prints. A top end dedicated film scanner would, of course, be much 
better. But without having to stand up to a side-by-side comparison, the 
flatbed scans look good.
Paul


I have an Epson 1650 and I use it to scan film, if I need to.

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Re: When did it click

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Derby Chang"

Subject: When did it click




So.when did it first click for you?


I think I was about 8.
My parents had taken me along with them on a trip to Cypress Hills (sadly 
thats not in Cypress) and my dad wanted a picture of the two of them on Bald 
Butte (apparently the highest point of land between the Laurentians and the 
Rockies in Canada).
Anyway, dad handed me his camera, and the first thing I noticed was that he 
had misread the light meter, so there I was taking a light reading with his 
handheld meter and setting the camera correctly before I took the picture.

It was another 5 years before I was able to finagle a darkroom.

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OT: Amazon - Lightroom 2 $188.99

[Matthew Hunt]

Amazon's "Deal of the Day" for Monday, 1/25/2010, is Adobe Lightroom 2
for $188.99.  One day only, of course.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27

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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 25, 2010, at 1:45 AM, Thibouille wrote:


She was more a cat than a rat, really.
1.5 year old was early, even for a rat.
She'll be missed pretty much.

Never thought I'd love those animals so much.

My best shot of her (and one of my best shots ever, IMO), resized  
for web.


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7825/jojoee.jpg


Excellent photo.

My condolences. When I was a kid we had pet rats, even sold litters to  
a pet store to offset the cost of supplies.  They do make great pets.





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OT - CinePaint and Pentax Photo 3.61 under Linux, work in progress

[Luiz Felipe]

Hi Graydon, thanks for the comments - and sorry for the delay, things happen... 
:-)

Just found the damned package, downloaded and all is working... so far.  Just 
made a try with Camera Raw (can't remember the version, came with my CS2) in a 
night shot and I'd keep UFRAW no matter what. CinePaint is not CS2 - I can't 
find my way around some tasks - but for anything that doesn't require extensive 
healing or editing it's going to be used. Right now I'm trying a quick fix for 
CS2 under Wine 1.0 (alt key shortcuts), since I have some heads to move around 
older pics and I'm under 10 hours of use of CinePaint and still have a long way 
to learn. Time, again... and all that while the kids come to ask anything from 
a kiss to why can't we just go back to the beach to see it by night... and get 
more ice cream :-)

The 16 bit depth stays as long as possible - same as loseless compression. Any 
losses come as final step, if needed - both in image and sound. I don't print 
at home - so far. But I'd keep as much detail in the pic for as long as 
possible because once it's gone, it's gone. Tomorrow I may need it, who knows?

Link to the missing link: 
http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr2ldbl_1.2.2-4.4ubuntu1.1_i386.deb

Amazing as may seem, my previous searches didn't get this particular result. 
Typing errors? The correct search string was on my cache, and the other 
(followed) inks appear in the google results... Gremlins - it's NOT old age... 
But Synaptic and Apt-Get missed the target too.

Luiz Felipe
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http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 04:16:40AM -0200, Luiz Felipe scripsit:
> Cinepaint never worked for me. Last week I came across a piece of info
> that allowed me get it working, without crashes so far. It's still a
> work in progress, since some software dependencies aren't met under
> Ubuntu no matter what - but I just can't try other distros right now,
> no more tests for the moment. I'm wondering if any of you have managed
> to work from SD card to print in Linux. And how.

ufraw for raw processing, cinepaint for anything (like detailed colour
balance fiddling) ufraw doesn't do if you need 16bit.  I mount the SD
cards directly (just sticking them in a USB reader should do that) and
copy the files off them into a directory.

If you're using apt-get and cinepaint is a ubuntu package you should
certainly get all of the dependencies.  (As a general rule, if it's not
a package, you don't use it. If you are not utterly certain what using
"force" will do, don't do it.  If you break either rule, there will be
learning experiences.)

I will note that I can't readily see the difference between 16bit and
8bit colour in print output; I suspect I would need a good dedicated
photo printer for that.  (I have a Xerox 8550 solid ink printer.  I
really like it, and Xerox claims full Pantone capability, but it's not a
photo printer.)  If you've got one, I'd be making sure that you can
print to it first.

If it's just going to jpeg *anyway*, ufraw + gimp works fine.

> Both systems are fully up-to-date - an issue since after the forced
> CinePaint install all package managers refuse to work proper unless I
> take down ditto CinePaint as the failed depency is impossible to meet
> so far (libopenexr2ldbl (>=1.2.2)).

OK, delete -- using the package manager -- cinepaint.

libopenexr2ldbl is a Ubuntu package; what response do you get when you
try to install just it?

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Re: Scott Bourne's Ego

[Toine]

You have another one. Don't expect any tweets from me and please don't
tweet me. if you do I hit unfollow
:)

2010/1/25 Mark Roberts :
> BTW: I have my own Twitter stream (http://twitter.com/gromitroberts).
> I have never made a single post - oops, "Tweet" - to it, and my plan
> is to *never* post any Tweets. My goal is to achieve Internet fame by
> getting 100,000 Twitter followers without ever posting anything.
>
> I'm up to 27 so far...
>
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Re: Please Ignore Me (too)

[Tom C]

The bigger they are the harder they fall.  That seems to be just to
me. Pound for pound, ounce for ounce, eye for eye.

Tom C.

> If you were 40 pounds overweight, you wouldn't think the law of gravity was
> especially just.
>
> William Robb

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Re: they got back to me after all

[eckinator]

2010/1/25 Cotty :
> On 25/1/10, eckinator, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>shacking up with a cocky hotpant cormorant
>
> That's gotta be a T shirt eh?

I can see the been there and the seen that but would you want the done
that, mate?
Cheers
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Re: OT: Good bicycle panniers recommendations...

[Subash]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Scott Loveless  wrote:

> I have some Lone Peak bags that I like a lot.  They are not
> waterproof, but bright yellow rain covers are available.
> They are a bit more affordable than their Orlieb counterparts, and
> seem to be very durable.  Mine have some off-road miles on them,
> including single track, and show very little wear.
>
> http://www.lonepeakpacks.com/

thanks Scott. appreciate it. will have look at all of them and decide
on something appropriate for me. i still have two months on my
hands...

regards, subash

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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[eckinator]

So sorry Thibault, she was a beauty, too. Feel your pain even though I
think 1.5 years isn't all that bad for a rat.

They got the ex wife hooked ad subsequently me. Highest headcount
during our time together was 23 which ultimately caused me to quit
because so many of them came to us ill and I could no longer stand
watching them wither away and having them put down, and being replaced
right away (she was like I said literally hooked).

Beautiful image, too, right beyond memento qualities

Cheers
Ecke

2010/1/25 Thibouille :
> She was more a cat than a rat, really.
> 1.5 year old was early, even for a rat.
> She'll be missed pretty much.
>
> Never thought I'd love those animals so much.
>
> My best shot of her (and one of my best shots ever, IMO), resized for web.
>
> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7825/jojoee.jpg
>
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Thibouille  wrote:

> Never thought I'd love those animals so much.

Know what you mean. Been through this with our first two cats, ten years
ago. 

Ralf

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Re: Uzbek photographer on trial

[eckinator]

ouch... that's what you get when you mess with a democratorship, ex
CIS ex USSR or any other flavor, they are just not used to having
their game questioned... and find it unacceptable of course... think
Politkovskaya etc
Cheers
Ecke

2010/1/25 Bob W :
> This is rather an alarming story:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm
>
> Some countries seem to lack self-confidence. I have frequently been asked
> while abroad not to photograph 'backward' aspects of a country. This
> typically means beggars, but often extends to normal traditional life,
> especially rural, as if the retention of such aspects were shameful and the
> only things to be proud of were hideous tower blocks and nuclear power
> stations.
>
> Bob
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When did it click

[Derby Chang]

Friend-shooter of mind asked me today, when did it click for you? When 
did you know photography was the game to be in? Oddly, unlike a lot of 
my past history, I could pinpoint exactly the moment


I was sent out by my then-employer to do some work in Simi Valley, CA. 
Bored, I picked up a Ricoh KR-10M with a modest Rikonen zoom (both long 
since stolen). Landing on the weekend, I went for a drive down PCH to 
adjust my body clock, with a plan to visit the Getty museum. After being 
rejected because I hadn't booked, and after finding a not quite legal 
park on the beach, I saw a pretty lady with a pet pig. Not understanding 
the honourable history of street photography, I begged her to let me 
take a photo, which she did, to my gratitude. It could have gone the 
other way, but that shot made me think, there was something to this 
hobby. Fine-boned ladies will let you take their picture with their pig, 
what's not to enjoy?


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_01/10_01_click/index.htm

So.when did it first click for you?

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RIP - JoJo passed away last Thursday evening.

[Thibouille]

She was more a cat than a rat, really.
1.5 year old was early, even for a rat.
She'll be missed pretty much.

Never thought I'd love those animals so much.

My best shot of her (and one of my best shots ever, IMO), resized for web.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7825/jojoee.jpg


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Uzbek photographer on trial

[Bob W]

This is rather an alarming story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8473285.stm

Some countries seem to lack self-confidence. I have frequently been asked
while abroad not to photograph 'backward' aspects of a country. This
typically means beggars, but often extends to normal traditional life,
especially rural, as if the retention of such aspects were shameful and the
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stations.

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RE: Scott Bourne's Ego

[Bob W]

> 
> > http://xkcd.com/386/
> 
> On second thought, maybe this quote would have been more appropriate:
> 
> http://www.gamertagpics.com/users/w/wa/warhawkBL187/ArguingOnT
> heInternet-Special%20Olympics.jpg
> 

That's a very mean-spirited picture.

Bob


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Re: Semi OT: 64 bit Operating Systems and PhotoShop

[Leon Altoff]

On 25 January 2010 09:30, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Nothing was where I expected it to be; it wasn't organized the way I had
> learned to operate. And I *STILL* despise Vista's search function. I don't
> want to use an internet browser to find where I put certain files on my
> hard-drive. It may function better than XP, but it aggravates the crap out
> of me sometimes.
>
> Still, I'm finally becoming inured to Vista.
>
> Am I setting myself up to go through that same shit all over again?

Vista never functioned better than XP.  I put up with it because I
expected Microsoft to fix it and I didn't want to do a full reinstall
of everything on my PC.  Vista is the DOS4 of the windows world (for
anyone who remembers DOS).  Whatever changes they made to the OS
behind the scenes (I don't really care, most new versions of software
are small improvements on previous versions), Win 7 is better than XP
and far better than Vista and I'm far happier using it (though I would
like Explorer's status bar fixed and a proper PCL6 driver for my
printer, but it does actually work fine).

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Re: New photo book - Music For Your Eyes

[Dario Bonazza]

Derby Chang wrote:

That looks beautiful, Dario. Are there details about the musicians? Google 
is my friend, I suppose.


Hi Derby, thanks for commenting. Perhaps a few more explanations on my side 
are in order here. This year, my task was to put together a 'pure' photo 
book, hence just pictures and no comments at all, while last-year 
publication had quite a different purpose and layout.
'I'm here to steal the show' (Dec.2008) was mainly conceived as a 
presentation of my capability to shoot pictures and put together articles, 
hence it featured a magazine-style layout, including short text/captions 
accompanying the pictures and introducing the performers/bands.
'Music for your eyes' (Dec. 2009 http://www.blurb.com/books/1153533) is 
meant as a classic photo book, hence just pictures on clean background. 
Also, some pictures are more sophisticated, some make use of less obvious 
techniques, and so on. All in all, I find it a much more enjoyable work for 
the wide public of photography lovers.

About the musicians/bands, here is the list:
Osanna & David Jackson (Osanna was an Italian prog-rock band of the 
Seventies, now resurrected, while Mr. Jackson was a former member of Van Der 
Graaf Generator).

Jackie Perkins & Gabin Dabiré (American folk/roots meets ethnic music)
Nicola Conte (brother of the better known Paolo Conte, he nicely plays jazz)
Vanessa Da Mata (brazilian pop singer)
Floyd Machine (an excellent Pink Floyd cover band)
Cristina Zavalloni (hard to label, but she merges French chansonnieres with 
Italian music of the fifties/sixties)

Made in Purple (an excellent Deep Purple cover band)
Ana Popovic (great great great blueswoman and guitarist. Love her music)
Saba (born in Somalia, daughter of Italian father and Ethiopian mother, her 
family was driven out of Somalia. She now sings ethnic music and supports 
refugees)
Vanessa Peters (Texan indie folk/roots/pop/rock/whatever singer mostly 
living in Holland/Italy when she's not in tour. Love her music)

Esperanza Spalding (raising star, I suppose)
Small Jackets (an excellent rock band, whose main flaw is to be Italian)
Jethro Tull (no need to explain)
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (a great classic Italian prog-rock, still alive)
Dolcenera (pop singer/player whose talent goes far beyond her own songs)
Richie Kotzen (an excellent American rock guitarist)
Elliot Murphy (roots/folk/blues. I've been delighted by his performance)
Michael Burks (hard blues, if I can say that)
Sonny Landreth (bayou/cajun/zydeco blues guitarist, whatever that means)

Yes, I believe Google and Youtube are good friends of yours now.

Cheers,

Dario


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