Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/11 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 No problems from work or home. Frank, recently Google introduced Buzz which
 might have put certain load on their servers. But generally, I don't find
 your blog to be any slower than other sites I frequent.

I think the Blogspot servers are not fully integrated in the Google
infrastructure yet, but rather reside on an infrastructure that was
transferred as-is when Google bought Blogspot.

BobW, I suspect your antivirus software. If you have all the
preemptive scanning functionality enabled for your web browser, it
means that all linked-in content is scrutinised. In cases of ad
servers gathering statistics without really giving content back I
think you will end up waiting for connection timeouts, which are
fairly short as such, but quite annoying nonetheless.

Jostein

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RE: PESO - M3 and ME reskinned

2010-02-11 Thread Chris Mitchell
 From John Sessoms
 
 Complete and utter nonsense to pay thousands of dollars extra to have
 fake wear applied to the body.
 

Sadly lots of people do. I hasten to add that my '73 Tele Deluxe is in near
pristine condition and I intend for it to stay that way as it is likely to
be a serious contributor to my pension in a few years time...

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RE: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Bob W
  Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May 
 evening on a back street in Rome:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407
 
  (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)
 
 That's a stunning photo.  It's Rome as I've always imagined 
 it might look.
 

Bruce Chatwin coined the perfect phrase for that feeling, when he wrote
about 'the real Patagonia of my imagination'.

This is a strange sort of Rome (or perhaps it is the true Rome) - the
woman's a redhead and the only writing we can see is in French and German,
not Italian!

 The light's perfect, as is the composition.  And the lovely 
 backlit lady doesn't hurt, either.
 

I agree.


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Re: k100 viewfinder -- photos

2010-02-11 Thread Cotty

Looks like the VF is shattered. Have you taken any impacting photos lately?

His pictures always carry a punch.



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Re: OT : How To Report The News

2010-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think I sent this here yesterday but haven't see it show up. I think
it's a kick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtGSXMuWMR4

I Godders, great video. I posted it to the list about a week ago, which
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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/2/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a
back street in Rome:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)

Excellent. The kind of picture you die for.

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Larry Colen


On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Boy that red really shows up - looks kind of cool!


I'm working at selling off some gear to buy a K-x.

I'm debating between red and white. I wish I could see a red one in  
person.


I'm also wondering when the next big price drop will be.  I was hoping  
that Bruce buying one would cause an immediate drop in price this week.





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Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:27:18 PM, you wrote:


BE http://photoeverysooften.blogspot.com/2010/02/stalking-wild-pentaxian.html

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BE Love is that condition in which the happiness of another  
person is

BE essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy
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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Bong Manayon
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 Boy that red really shows up - looks kind of cool!

 I'm working at selling off some gear to buy a K-x.

 I'm debating between red and white. I wish I could see a red one in person.

 I'm also wondering when the next big price drop will be.  I was hoping that
 Bruce buying one would cause an immediate drop in price this week.


If you're willing to take my word for it, go for the white.  The red
feels too 'plasticky' --if you're looking to something like a fire
engine high gloss red, the red K-x is a bit of a let down.  It feels
like a scale model red plastic before you applied any airbrushing or
paint.

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GESO: Surf Turf (Race 4)

2010-02-11 Thread David Mann
Hi all,

Another batch of photos from this week's race.  Similar stuff to last week but 
I think the photos are better this time around.  Not that I'm blowing my 
trumpet or anything.

I was better prepared for the lighting conditions so I paid a bit more 
attention to the backgrounds.  None of the photos presented challenges in 
Photoshop which was a pleasant surprise.  The K10D light meter really couldn't 
have done much better.

Unfortunately the weather was overcast again - probably not a bad thing as I'd 
otherwise be shooting towards the sun.  But it was quite dim and I was really 
fighting to get acceptable focus / dof with the 200mm lens.  A few of the pics 
I chose were still a bit soft but at this small size it doesn't show too badly. 
 My editing was made much easier by the amount of badly focussed photos :(

http://www.multisport.net.nz/photos/700-2010-02-11-frontrunner-surf-n-turf-photos.html

Please note that I've upgraded the slideshow software since last week and 
browsers tend to cache javascript files a little too aggressively.  If the main 
image doesn't appear, hold down shift and click the reload button in your 
browser.  This should tell the browser that you really do want to reload 
everything, not just the things it thinks should be reloaded.

I've added slideshow controls now so it's a bit less fiddly to browse through.  
My next plan is to add numbers to the images, then to revamp the template to 
allow a much larger main image.

On Saturday I'm going to try and be at the finish line of the Coast to Coast.  
The weather forecast is quite bad so I'll see what I can do.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Bong Manayon wrote:

If you're willing to take my word for it, go for the white.  The red
feels too 'plasticky' --if you're looking to something like a fire
engine high gloss red, the red K-x is a bit of a let down.  It feels
like a scale model red plastic before you applied any airbrushing or
paint.

Agree. In real life, the red of the K-x does not truly look like a racing 
red as depicted by photos. It's more like an oversaturated pink. The white 
and the navy blue are as expected.


Dario


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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread David Mann
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a back 
 street in Rome:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

This has to be hung on a wall.

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OT I didn't realise dark-slides were so useful!

2010-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
http://vimeo.com/8892601

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Re: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Wonderful gallery, Doug. It makes me feel almost as if you and I are 
sitting on the veranda of one of these houses and having our favorite 
drink together having relaxed yet intense discussion of all things wordly.


Boris


On 2/8/2010 9:45 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

2009 in 25 Photographs

http://www.alphoto.com/images/25/

enjoy

warning: flash

html version to come




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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
That's a lovely photo.
My eye keeps going over the details above,
then settling on the woman below.
Excellent!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:07 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a back 
 street in Rome:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)

 That's a stunning photo.  It's Rome as I've always imagined it might look.

 The light's perfect, as is the composition.  And the lovely backlit
 lady doesn't hurt, either.

 ;-)

 Terrific photo, Rick!

 cheers,
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Re: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug,
Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the flash series
several times but like the html version better.  Like Christine, I
keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso
painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd atire.  The
whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal dress on the
antique sofa.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Doug Brewer wrote:

frank theriault wrote:

 Can't wait until the HTML version comes out...

and here it is:

http://www.alphoto.com/images/25html/

 Oh yes, a much more effective presentation than the Flash version.


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Re: Kudos to Paul C Buff

2010-02-11 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Studdert

Subject: Re: Kudos to Paul C Buff






Paul Buff has been very successful by having a very customer oriented
business model.
I'm surprised that they weren't able to replace the capacitor (presuming
that is all that was wrong). I recall when he first put his lights on the
market that they were pretty much from parts available at Radio Shack.


He obviously discarded his 10% PITA customers long ago!


If you are truly customer oriented, you don't need to discard customers.

William Robb 



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Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
So I'm giving it another go:

I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
has invited me in.
I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
a needlepoint.
So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
some money for a worthy case.
(Not a very political case).


MaritimTim

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RE: PESO - Not snow!

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
   It is snowing hard, again, with 12-18 inches forecast for Philly.

Escape was necessary.  So, here is the door of the 
  village church 
in Stow-on-the-Wold, England:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10660976

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/4 @ 1/10)

Rick
   
   They put those studs into old church doors to stop 
  elephants leaning 
   against them - bet you didn't know that.
  
  I did NOT know that ... never realized there was that much 
  trouble with elephants in England.
  
 
 The bastards are everywhere
 
  Must have some really stringent pooper-scooper laws there.
 
 We do, but just try getting an elephant to clean up after itself. It's not
 easy.

Tell them to put a cork in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSKPJuSXcXIfeature=related

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RE: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: 
  Bob W has mentioned that lately my blog is ~very~ slow, to 
  the point that today he couldn't get on.
  
  I certainly have no problems.
  
  How is it for others?
  
  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/
  
  I'm not sure what I can do about it, other than post somewhere else?
  
  Thanks for your help.
  
 
 I've been watching how it loads up and it sometimes gets stuck waiting for
 one or other of the ad servers. Sometimes it's before the picture loads, in
 which case I notice it. Other times it's after your picture/s load. It must
 be something in the middle - maybe just GCHQ enjoying the adverts.

Firefox and adblocker plus can be your friends in this situation.

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread paul stenquist
Posing nude for a cause has become almost a cliche. Numerous groups have done 
books and calendars since a group of Yorkshire women who did a calendar were 
immortalized in a movie about seven years ago. 
See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_Girls

In terms of shooting the nudes, I'd just look into some good books on figure 
photography. There are thousands of them out there. Go to a book store and 
thumb through a few until you find something that answers your questions. They 
take a variety of approaches.

In the end, it's just about good subtle light. Avoid hot spots and hard light. 
Retouch those zits! You're probably fine just using your instincts.
Paul

On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
 So I'm giving it another go:
 
 I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
 has invited me in.
 I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
 a needlepoint.
 So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
 non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
 I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.
 
 It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
 normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
 some money for a worthy case.
 (Not a very political case).
 
 
 MaritimTim
 
 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/
 
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Re: Boris, PESOs 8 through 11

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 That day that I spent in NYC proved to be fruitful on images that I
 will remember:

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-08.html
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-09.html
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-10.html
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/02/peso-2010-11.html

 Be brutal and honest, as usual.

I really like the last two the best, but all are good.

cheers,
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Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12/02/2010, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Firefox and adblocker plus can be your friends in this situation.

I didn't realise that the Gmail page contained a column of ads until I
opened it in IE ;-)

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Re: GESO: Surf Turf (Race 4)

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:43 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
 Hi all,

 Another batch of photos from this week's race.  Similar stuff to last week 
 but I think the photos are better this time around.  Not that I'm blowing my 
 trumpet or anything.

 I was better prepared for the lighting conditions so I paid a bit more 
 attention to the backgrounds.  None of the photos presented challenges in 
 Photoshop which was a pleasant surprise.  The K10D light meter really 
 couldn't have done much better.

 Unfortunately the weather was overcast again - probably not a bad thing as 
 I'd otherwise be shooting towards the sun.  But it was quite dim and I was 
 really fighting to get acceptable focus / dof with the 200mm lens.  A few of 
 the pics I chose were still a bit soft but at this small size it doesn't show 
 too badly.  My editing was made much easier by the amount of badly focussed 
 photos :(

 http://www.multisport.net.nz/photos/700-2010-02-11-frontrunner-surf-n-turf-photos.html

 Please note that I've upgraded the slideshow software since last week and 
 browsers tend to cache javascript files a little too aggressively.  If the 
 main image doesn't appear, hold down shift and click the reload button in 
 your browser.  This should tell the browser that you really do want to reload 
 everything, not just the things it thinks should be reloaded.

 I've added slideshow controls now so it's a bit less fiddly to browse 
 through.  My next plan is to add numbers to the images, then to revamp the 
 template to allow a much larger main image.

 On Saturday I'm going to try and be at the finish line of the Coast to Coast. 
  The weather forecast is quite bad so I'll see what I can do.

Very nice set!

cheers,
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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: 
 This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
 So I'm giving it another go:
 
 I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
 has invited me in.
 I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
 a needlepoint.
 So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
 non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
 I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.
 
 It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
 normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
 some money for a worthy case.
 (Not a very political case).


I'm sure Taschen had a book called 1000 nudes, which would keep you, er, busy 
for a while.  But I can't find it.
http://www.taschen.com/pages/en/catalogue/photography/index.htm

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RE: OT : How To Report The News

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

I think I sent this here yesterday but haven't see it show up. I think
it's a kick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtGSXMuWMR4


FWIW, you're the third person to post it.

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Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints

2010-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I'll stick with Adobe RGB as its worked well for me over the last 13 years
 or so of printing on an inkjet.

 Have you seen a difference with your workflow between sRGB  Adobe RGB ?

Ken, a few times i forgot to save a print as sRGB and had the local
Shoppers Drug Mart do the prints, and they seem to come out a bit
darker. After redoing them in sRGB they came out like the monitor'


Dave

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints


 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Thanks Godfrey - well explained.

 Would you expect to see a difference on an inkjet print using sRGB and
 Adobe
 RGB 1988?

 Literature I'm familiar with (Photoshop for Nature Photographers by Ellen
 Anon  Tim Grey) reccommends using Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB if you're
 going
 to print the image.

 Whether there's a difference or not depends on your printing workflow,
 and on the quality of the specific printer/printer driver/profiles,
 etc being used. This gets complex.

 For instance, most of my photos are printed from Lightroom nowadays.
 In Lightroom, the working environment promotes *all* imported photos
 to 16bits per channel and the working colorspace is Melissa ...
 ProPhoto RGB with a 2.2 gamma curve. When I elect to print something,
 I can either let the color be managed by the print driver and its
 embedded routines (by default, it knows what profile to use for each
 of the papers you choose in the media selection), I can print managed
 by printer but override its profile choices by telling it to use
 ColorSync and specifying a particular printing profile. In both of
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 the driver and sending it the print datastream as 8bit per component
 in sRGB colorspace.

 Third option is to color manage the print stream completely ... you
 tell the driver to do NO color management, and let Lightroom handle
 the translation into the printing profile for that printer/ink/paper
 combination explicitly, with you specifying the specific printing
 profile for the job. .

 The only way to know how to print best for your printer and work is to
 experiment with your printing application, printer, and papers.

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Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ken Waller
I'll stick with Adobe RGB as its worked well for me over the last 13 years 
or so of printing on an inkjet.


Have you seen a difference with your workflow between sRGB  Adobe RGB ?


If I understand color space, you want to match the working color gamut 
to the available colors for the output device.


Adobe RGB has colors available that are outside the sRGB color space. If 
you use those Adobe RGB colors in your image and the output device uses 
sRGB, the image may not come out looking like you envisioned it.


Printing to mini-labs, converting to sRGB works to make my prints come 
out like I expect them to.


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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Well exposed for the highlites and shadows here. I like the casual
walk of the women here.

Dave

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a back 
 street in Rome:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Does have that spy feel to it.

Well done

Dave

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:

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Re: peso - pair

2010-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Agreed

Dave

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still dark coats on black glass, but a bit better to see.  Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Thanks to everyone.
 Here is another variant:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4347102059/in/set-72157623181092101/
 is it any better?

 Thanks,
 --Sasha

 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com 
 wrote:
 Ditto Ken's remarks.  Just what I was thinking.

 --
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 Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:53:50 AM, you wrote:

 KW Too bad there isn't more separation in the colors of the coats and the 
 black
 KW background.

 KW Kenneth Waller
 KW http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 KW - Original Message -
 KW From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com
 KW Subject: peso - pair


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4342024309/

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Re: Paris Match fakes win prize

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

On 2/10/2010 6:29 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com  wrote:



 I have more practical reasons for hating contests: I never win, even
 though my entry is always clearly the best.
  

 Me too!

 Mind you, since I never enter, it's even harder for me to win...

  ;-) 


 cheers,
 frank


Sounds like the old man who dies and asks to see God.  After being 
ushered before the allmighty, he says:


God,.I was a good man, a pious man, all I needed to was more money, to 
do more good works.  Though I prayed and prayed, why didn't you ever let 
me win the lottery, instead of all those sinners.


God gently replied: Murry, did you ever buy a ticket?


My favorite of all those stories is Mother Smith ...

The weather is bad; hard rain's a comin'. Two men drive up to Mother 
Smith's place in a pickup truck to find her in her rocker on the front 
porch.


Mother Smith! A hard rain's a fallin'. The weather-man says there's 
gonna be a flood. We come to take you to the higher ground.


Mother Smith replies, No. The Lord will provide. And she keeps right 
on a rockin'.


When the water gets up to the front porch, along comes a man in a rowboat.

Mother Smith! The rain's still comin' down and the weather-man says the 
flood is gonna just get deeper. I come to take you to the higher ground.


Mother Smith replies, I have faith in the Lord. He will provide. And 
she keeps right on a rockin'.


As the flood worsens, Mother Smith is forced up onto the roof, when 
along comes a man in a helicopter.


Mother Smith! That roof is soon going to be under water soon. Your 
house will be swept away. I've come to take you to the higher ground.


Mother Smith replies, My faith in the Lord is unwavering. He will be my 
higher ground.


Mother Smith drowns.

When she reaches heaven and faces the throne, she says, God, I kept my 
faith in you. Why didn't you save me?


God says, But Mother Smith, didn't I send two men in a pickup truck to 
take you to the higher ground? Didn't I send you a man in a row boat?


I even sent you a man in a helicopter. Three times I sent for you.

Why didn't you go with one of them?

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Dayton

Boy that red really shows up - looks kind of cool!

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:27:18 PM, you wrote:
 
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Add a little snowflake border and somebody's got a nice Christmas card.

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OT: Rome PDML

2010-02-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I will be in Rome next week, from Sunday through Thursday.  If any
Pentaxians in that area would like to meet for a drink or whatever,
please let me know.

Dan Matyola

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RE: PESO - M3 and ME reskinned

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Chris Mitchell

From John Sessoms
 
 Complete and utter nonsense to pay thousands of dollars extra to have

 fake wear applied to the body.
 


Sadly lots of people do. I hasten to add that my '73 Tele Deluxe is in near
pristine condition and I intend for it to stay that way as it is likely to
be a serious contributor to my pension in a few years time...

Chris


None of my guitars is near pristine, especially those I bought when I 
was significantly younger. They've all been played out in public with 
the normal wear and tear that entails.


I was a callow teenager in those days, and not noticeably less clumsy 
than I am today. I've always used my equipment hard ... but that's what 
it's there for.


I never wanted to be a collector. Never considered my guitars an 
investment to be protected from handling. Guitars NEED to be played.


Somehow though, I ended up with a collection - seventeen guitars if I 
haven't lost count. Every one bought because I wanted to play it.


It's to the point it's becoming difficult to get them all played as much 
as they deserve to be played. Well, no ... it's not difficult, it's 
impossible. It just ain't happening.


The wear and tear though, the dings and scratches that have accumulated 
were all honestly earned.


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RE: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W
Another escape from blowing, drifting snow: ?A warm May 

 evening on a back street in Rome:

 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407
 
  (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)
 
 That's a stunning photo.  It's Rome as I've always imagined 
 it might look.
 


Bruce Chatwin coined the perfect phrase for that feeling, when he wrote
about 'the real Patagonia of my imagination'.


It's not enough to capture an image that looks like what I saw in the 
scene. Now the image has to recreate the feelings I had when I looked 
upon the scene as well.


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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Doug Brewer

Yes, indeed.

On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a  
back street in Rome:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)

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Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints

2010-02-11 Thread P N Stenquist


On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:59 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: Ken Waller
I'll stick with Adobe RGB as its worked well for me over the last  
13 years or so of printing on an inkjet.
Have you seen a difference with your workflow between sRGB  Adobe  
RGB ?


If I understand color space, you want to match the working color  
gamut to the available colors for the output device.


Adobe RGB has colors available that are outside the sRGB color  
space. If you use those Adobe RGB colors in your image and the  
output device uses sRGB, the image may not come out looking like you  
envisioned it.


Printing to mini-labs, converting to sRGB works to make my prints  
come out like I expect them to.


Ken is talking about printing to an Epson ink jet printer. When  
PhotoShop controls colors and an icc profile is used, the color space  
is specified in the printer setup panel. I use Adboe RGB for printing  
on an Epson R2400, always with the best profile I can find, and get  
excellent results.

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Re: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob Sullivan

Doug,
Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the flash series
several times but like the html version better.  Like Christine, I
keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso
painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd atire.  The
whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal dress on the
antique sofa.
Regards,  Bob S.


Stylistically, it's Early American portraiture ... 18th century 
equivalent of getting Uncle George to take family photos because he 
has a real camera.


The painting is a primitive, un-schooled style - typical of itinerant 
American artists in the late colonial and early post colonial period.


If it's a known painter, it might be worth some money, but not anything 
near as much as its value as a family heirloom.


That's somebody's great-great-great-great ... grandma.

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Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I'll stick with Adobe RGB as its worked well for me over the last 13 years
 or so of printing on an inkjet.

 Have you seen a difference with your workflow between sRGB  Adobe RGB ?

All of my printing is fully color managed with specific paper
profiles, I can't answer that question. I'm not sure its even
relevant.

My *editing* in the early 2000s was on JPEG images which had sRGB and
Adobe RGB in-camera settings. Then, when I went to the first
raw-capable camera in 2003, I output from Camera Raw exclusively in
Adobe RGB colorspace. In 2006, when ProPhoto RGB became available, I
switched my Camera Raw+Photoshop processing workflow to ProPhoto RGB,
and then Lightroom came available.

There's definitely far more editability in ProPhoto RGB over Adobe
RGB, and the same again for Adobe RGB over sRGB.

Since the vast majority of printer/ink/papers out there do not
encompass all of sRGB gamut, if you've done a good job with editing,
the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB is irrelevant. The choice of
color space and gamut is far more important to the editability of an
image,not the printability.

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Re: lightroom configuration for costco prints

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
BTW, if you have Photoshop, you can use soft-proof to see the
difference in what your printing will be pretty easily.
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Re: Aperture 3 now available

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't intuit how an application works, I try to understand the logic
or workflow the designer had in mind. Good application design
expresses the workflow concept of the designer well ... it's the
workflow concept that I either like or dislike, that I can learn
quickly and remember, or not. Restating: What I mean by intuitive is
that the way I want to work with my photos is in line with the
workflow design.

Personally, I've found the Lightroom workflow much much easier to
learn and remember than the Aperture workflow. Aperture I find much
more difficult to learn, a challenge, to me anyway. Just like iPhoto
... I've never found either of them intuitive. I find them both
quite unintuitive, as a matter of fact. Whereas the Lightroom
workflow, with only minor differences, works out to be nearly exactly
what I came up with on my own using Bridge + Camera Raw + Photoshop,
before either Aperture or Lightroom were available.

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Re: OT : How To Report The News

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ah, thanks. I didn't see it before, and I didn't see my post yesterday show up.

There's way more traffic on PDML than I have time to look at.
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Re: OT : How To Report The News

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ah, thanks. I didn't see it before, and I didn't see my post yesterday show 
 up.

Oh ... I see now ... speaking of unintuitive ... I have a search
filter that looks for threads I started on gmail. Well, I didn't
realize that the threads would start with me rather than my name.
Another example of the designer's concept being out of sync with mine.

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Re: OT : How To Report The News

2010-02-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:32, Cotty wrote:

 On 10/2/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I think I sent this here yesterday but haven't see it show up. I think
 it's a kick.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtGSXMuWMR4
 
 I Godders, great video. I posted it to the list about a week ago, which
 might explain lack of reax.
 

I'm slow, I guess.   I missed the 1st (and/or 2nd) posting of this.  I'm sure 
they're lost somewhere in my 3000 as-yet-unread messages in my Pentax folder. 
 (sigh).  

So, it's new to me and I loved it.  Thanks!

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread ann sanfedele
Tim -- Watch a British film called calendar girls  with Helen Mirren 
about a real group of women who

did this back in 2001.  The film was made in 2003.

http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/calendargirls.php

Possibly where your friend got the idea?  


ann

Tim Øsleby wrote:


This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
So I'm giving it another go:

I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
has invited me in.
I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
a needlepoint.
So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
some money for a worthy case.
(Not a very political case).


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Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:40:28 +1100
Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

  Firefox and adblocker plus can be your friends in this situation.
 
 I didn't realise that the Gmail page contained a column of ads until I
 opened it in IE ;-)

I am often surprised to see ads on other peoples' computers.
flashblock is another good toy.  gives you the choice of looking at
flash instead of having a page that consists of 20 flash ads and a
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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Ken Waller

Excellent. The kind of picture you die for.


MARK !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Evening in Rome



On 10/2/10, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:


Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A warm May evening on a
back street in Rome:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)


Excellent. The kind of picture you die for.

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Bong,

Comforting, I went for the white without this information.

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Thursday, February 11, 2010, 1:39:43 AM, you wrote:

BM If you're willing to take my word for it, go for the white.  The red
BM feels too 'plasticky' --if you're looking to something like a fire
BM engine high gloss red, the red K-x is a bit of a let down.  It feels
BM like a scale model red plastic before you applied any airbrushing or
BM paint.

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Re: Aperture 3 now available

2010-02-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 10, 2010, at 22:16, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
 I completely agree about the interface. I put Lr on my Dad's machine but I 
 found it to be not nearly as intuitve as Aperture. I still would like to play 
 with it some more though. For now Aperture is more than enough.
 

Funny thing is... I evaluated both of these at one time and found Aperture's UI 
to be just horrible.  I guess it's largely just a matter of what you're 
accustomed to.  I jumped from using iPhoto/Photoshop to just Lightroom and 
couldn't be happier now with the speed and efficiency.

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Re: Aperture 3 now available

2010-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
That is the thing about UI.  You have simple users, power users and
users familiar with something.  To each, what is intuitive is
different.  Half the battle to designing good UI is to know the
target audience.  To a Mac user, Windows is less intuitive - to a
Windows user, Mac is less intuitive.

If you took a tool like a photo editor or a raw converter and had two
potential users - one a graphic artist and the other a photographer -
what would be natural and intuitive to each could be different -
especially given their previous experiences.

-- 
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Thursday, February 11, 2010, 10:21:12 AM, you wrote:

CR On Feb 10, 2010, at 22:16, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
 I completely agree about the interface. I put Lr on my Dad's machine but I 
 found it to be not nearly as intuitve as Aperture. I still would like to 
 play with it some more though. For now Aperture is more than enough.
 

CR Funny thing is... I evaluated both of these at one time and found
CR Aperture's UI to be just horrible.  I guess it's largely just a
CR matter of what you're accustomed to.  I jumped from using
CR iPhoto/Photoshop to just Lightroom and couldn't be happier now with the 
speed and efficiency.

CR  -Charles

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Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bran Everseeking

On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:40:28 +1100
Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:


  Firefox and adblocker plus can be your friends in this situation.
 
 I didn't realise that the Gmail page contained a column of ads until I
 opened it in IE  ;-) 


I am often surprised to see ads on other peoples' computers.
flashblock is another good toy.  gives you the choice of looking at
flash instead of having a page that consists of 20 flash ads and a
flash player bogging things down.


My fundamental tool for ad blocking is the hosts file. Redirects 
unwanted domains to local host 127.0.0.1


Blocked ads leave a frame with a box that says Unable to connect. 
Firefox can't establish a connection with whatever domain, so you know 
what ad site has been blocked.


You can edit the hosts file to unblock that site if you want to.

The only time it has ever given me any trouble was some BBC videos that 
started out by redirecting to a commercial hosted on doubleclick. They'd 
give that endless arrow chasing around in a circle with a message 
waiting for so and so down in the lower left corner of the browser.


I ended up giving those videos a pass.

There are some sites essentially unreachable because they redirect to a 
pass through ad that's on one of the blocked hosts. But if the site is 
going to resort to that kind of deceptive action, I don't want to go 
there anyway.


It won't block ads that are actually hosted on the site if the site 
itself is not on the list - like NYTimes has most of their web 
advertising actually on the NYTimes server.


It's easy to update and add in new SPAM sites.

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RE: PESO - Not snow!

2010-02-11 Thread Bob W
It is snowing hard, again, with 12-18 inches forecast 
 for Philly.
 
 Escape was necessary.  So, here is the door of the
   village church
 in Stow-on-the-Wold, England:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10660976
 
 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/4 @ 1/10)
 
 Rick

They put those studs into old church doors to stop
   elephants leaning
against them - bet you didn't know that.
   
   I did NOT know that ... never realized there was that 
 much trouble 
   with elephants in England.
   
  
  The bastards are everywhere
  
   Must have some really stringent pooper-scooper laws there.
  
  We do, but just try getting an elephant to clean up after 
 itself. It's 
  not easy.
 
 Tell them to put a cork in it.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSKPJuSXcXIfeature=related


That cannot possibly be real!

B


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RE: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread Bob W
   Bob W has mentioned that lately my blog is ~very~ slow, 
 to the point 
   that today he couldn't get on.
   
   I certainly have no problems.
   
   How is it for others?
   
   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/
   
   I'm not sure what I can do about it, other than post 
 somewhere else?
   
   Thanks for your help.
   
  
  I've been watching how it loads up and it sometimes gets 
 stuck waiting 
  for one or other of the ad servers. Sometimes it's before 
 the picture 
  loads, in which case I notice it. Other times it's after your 
  picture/s load. It must be something in the middle - maybe 
 just GCHQ enjoying the adverts.
 
 Firefox and adblocker plus can be your friends in this situation.

I'm using Chrome. Mostly the ads don't bother me. If they do I don't visit
the site again. I can't be bothered with endless arms races against these
idiots.

Bob


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RE: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread Bob W
 From: Bob Sullivan
  Doug,
  Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the flash series 
  several times but like the html version better.  Like Christine, I 
  keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso 
  painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd atire.  The 
  whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal dress on the 
  antique sofa.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 Stylistically, it's Early American portraiture ... 18th 
 century equivalent of getting Uncle George to take family 
 photos because he has a real camera.
 
 The painting is a primitive, un-schooled style - typical of 
 itinerant American artists in the late colonial and early 
 post colonial period.
 
 If it's a known painter, it might be worth some money, but 
 not anything near as much as its value as a family heirloom.
 
 That's somebody's great-great-great-great ... grandma.

Not necessarily. 

The pose and the dress resemble the Infanta in Las Meninas by Velasquez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas

It's worth visiting Madrid just to see that one picture. But you get a whole
load of Velasquez's in the same museum (the Prado), and all the Goyas too!

Picasso was obsessed by Velasquez and made a lot of very interesting and
extraordinary studies of Las Meninas, which are in the Picasso museum in
Barcelona:
http://www.bcn.cat/museupicasso/en/collection/mpb70-459.html

Bob


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Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12/02/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I'm using Chrome. Mostly the ads don't bother me. If they do I don't visit
 the site again. I can't be bothered with endless arms races against these
 idiots.

I use Chrome too but mainly FF, with as others have said Adblock plus
and Flash block installed, it's really low maintenance. The ads block
lists are updated by subscription automatically and flash block
creates a little play icon over the blocked page element. If you want
to white list a page to flash block I think it involves a right click
and selection, I don't really remember as it's almost a thoughtless
process. So many pages look so cluttered on browsers without any ad
blocking tools active.

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Re: OT - My Blog

2010-02-11 Thread steve harley

On 2010-02-11 10:20 , Bran Everseeking wrote:

I am often surprised to see ads on other peoples' computers.
flashblock is another good toy.  gives you the choice of looking at
flash instead of having a page that consists of 20 flash ads and a
flash player bogging things down.


i generally tune out static ads so well that i'm surprised when they 
catch the attention of someone looking at the same page; i use RSS a lot 
too, which avoids ads for the majority of blogs unless or until i load 
specific articles; it also avoids that interminable loading of the last 
6 months of images that some photo blogs (not Frank's) do by default


active ads i handle with ClickToFlash in Safari, a very simple and 
effective tool that makes viewing Flash an elective process and also 
facilitates access to H.264 rather than Flash versions of YouTube content


http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/

sometimes i turn off JavaScript temporarily too, because with 60 tabs 
open in my browser, i don't always want to have to hunt for the page 
that is soaking up CPU cycles (and draining my battery)



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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

ann sanfedele wrote:
Tim -- Watch a British film called calendar girls  with Helen Mirren 
about a real group of women who

did this back in 2001.  The film was made in 2003.

http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/calendargirls.php

Possibly where your friend got the idea? 
ann


Tim Øsleby wrote:


This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
So I'm giving it another go:

I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
has invited me in.
I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
a needlepoint.
So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
some money for a worthy case.
(Not a very political case).


http://www.amazon.co.uk/1000-Nudes-Scheid-Collection-Klotz/dp/3822855693

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

mike wilson wrote:


ann sanfedele wrote:

Tim -- Watch a British film called calendar girls  with Helen Mirren 
about a real group of women who

did this back in 2001.  The film was made in 2003.

http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/calendargirls.php

Possibly where your friend got the idea? ann

Tim Øsleby wrote:


This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
So I'm giving it another go:

I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
has invited me in.
I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
a needlepoint.
So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
some money for a worthy case.
(Not a very political case).



http://www.amazon.co.uk/1000-Nudes-Scheid-Collection-Klotz/dp/3822855693


And a sample of the contents:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Uwe-Scheid-Collection

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Yep. Thats where she got the idea. She has just finished fighting cancer.
The basic idea is the same. But we intend to do it with a little twist.

Maybe play a little with different art icons. Place regular, but
undressed, women in them.


MaritimTim

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2010/2/11 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
 Tim -- Watch a British film called calendar girls  with Helen Mirren about
 a real group of women who
 did this back in 2001.  The film was made in 2003.

 http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/calendargirls.php

 Possibly where your friend got the idea?
 ann

 Tim Øsleby wrote:

 This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
 So I'm giving it another go:

 I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
 has invited me in.
 I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
 a needlepoint.
 So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
 non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
 I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

 It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
 normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
 some money for a worthy case.
 (Not a very political case).


 MaritimTim

 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/





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Re: PESO - Not snow!

2010-02-11 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

It is snowing hard, again, with 12-18 inches forecast 


for Philly.


Escape was necessary.  So, here is the door of the


village church


in Stow-on-the-Wold, England:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10660976

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/4 @ 1/10)

Rick


They put those studs into old church doors to stop


elephants leaning


against them - bet you didn't know that.


I did NOT know that ... never realized there was that 


much trouble 


with elephants in England.



The bastards are everywhere



Must have some really stringent pooper-scooper laws there.


We do, but just try getting an elephant to clean up after 


itself. It's 


not easy.


Tell them to put a cork in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSKPJuSXcXIfeature=related




That cannot possibly be real!


IIRC, I first saw it in about 1994/5.  I don't think it could have been 
faked easily at that time.  It would have looked far better than it does.


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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Mike

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2010/2/11 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 ann sanfedele wrote:

 Tim -- Watch a British film called calendar girls  with Helen Mirren
 about a real group of women who
 did this back in 2001.  The film was made in 2003.

 http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/calendargirls.php

 Possibly where your friend got the idea? ann

 Tim Øsleby wrote:

 This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
 So I'm giving it another go:

 I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
 has invited me in.
 I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
 a needlepoint.
 So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
 non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
 I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

 It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
 normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
 some money for a worthy case.
 (Not a very political case).

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/1000-Nudes-Scheid-Collection-Klotz/dp/3822855693

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm not sure I can trust my instinct photographing naked women.

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2010/2/11 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 Posing nude for a cause has become almost a cliche. Numerous groups have done 
 books and calendars since a group of Yorkshire women who did a calendar were 
 immortalized in a movie about seven years ago. 
 See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_Girls

 In terms of shooting the nudes, I'd just look into some good books on figure 
 photography. There are thousands of them out there. Go to a book store and 
 thumb through a few until you find something that answers your questions. 
 They take a variety of approaches.

 In the end, it's just about good subtle light. Avoid hot spots and hard 
 light. Retouch those zits! You're probably fine just using your instincts.
 Paul

 On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 This message never showed up on the list. I have only myself to blame.
 So I'm giving it another go:

 I have a woman friend who plans to do a collective nude project and
 has invited me in.
 I'm game, but my knowledge about nude photography could be written at
 a needlepoint.
 So now i need to read up on the subject before starting to train up my
 non existent skills. I am prepared to buy more than one book, because
 I think I need input with different approaches to the subject.

 It is not a glam project, or not a erotic project. It is simply about
 normal woman who takes of their clothes to make a statement to raise
 some money for a worthy case.
 (Not a very political case).


 MaritimTim

 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/

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OT: This one's for Bill Robb

2010-02-11 Thread Walter Hamler
A couple has a dog that snores. Annoyed because she can't sleep, the
wife goes to the vet to see if he can help.  The vet tells the woman
to tie a ribbon around the dog's testicles, and he will stop snoring.

'Yeah right!' she says.

A few minutes after going to bed, the dog begins snoring, as usual.
The wife tosses and turns, unable to sleep. Muttering to herself, she
goes to the closet and grabs a piece of red ribbon and ties it
carefully around the dog's testicles..

Sure enough, the dog stops snoring.  The woman is amazed...

Later that night, her husband returns home drunk from being out
drinking with his buddies. He climbs into bed, falls asleep and
immediately begins snoring loudly.

The woman decides maybe the ribbon might work on him. So, she goes to
the closet again, grabs a piece of blue ribbon and ties it around her
husband's testicles.. Amazingly, it also works on him!

The woman sleeps soundly. The husband wakes from his drunken stupor
and stumbles into the bathroom. As he stands in front of the toilet,
he glances in the mirror and sees a blue ribbon attached to his
privates.

He is very confused, and as he walks back into the bedroom, he sees
the red ribbon attached to his dog's testicles. He shakes his head and
looks at the dog and whispers,

'I don't know where we were ... or what we did 

But,  we took FIRST and SECOND place!

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Re: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Bob W, I thought I remembered some famous painting like that -
a boy in fancy dress outfit.  But John may be right, it could be
easily an early american primitive painting and not a reproduction of
a more famous work.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: Bob Sullivan
  Doug,
  Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the flash series
  several times but like the html version better.  Like Christine, I
  keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso
  painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd atire.  The
  whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal dress on the
  antique sofa.
  Regards,  Bob S.

 Stylistically, it's Early American portraiture ... 18th
 century equivalent of getting Uncle George to take family
 photos because he has a real camera.

 The painting is a primitive, un-schooled style - typical of
 itinerant American artists in the late colonial and early
 post colonial period.

 If it's a known painter, it might be worth some money, but
 not anything near as much as its value as a family heirloom.

 That's somebody's great-great-great-great ... grandma.

 Not necessarily.

 The pose and the dress resemble the Infanta in Las Meninas by Velasquez.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas

 It's worth visiting Madrid just to see that one picture. But you get a whole
 load of Velasquez's in the same museum (the Prado), and all the Goyas too!

 Picasso was obsessed by Velasquez and made a lot of very interesting and
 extraordinary studies of Las Meninas, which are in the Picasso museum in
 Barcelona:
 http://www.bcn.cat/museupicasso/en/collection/mpb70-459.html

 Bob


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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Larry Colen


On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:39 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


Boy that red really shows up - looks kind of cool!


I'm working at selling off some gear to buy a K-x.

I'm debating between red and white. I wish I could see a red one in  
person.


I'm also wondering when the next big price drop will be.  I was  
hoping that

Bruce buying one would cause an immediate drop in price this week.



If you're willing to take my word for it, go for the white.  The red
feels too 'plasticky' --if you're looking to something like a fire
engine high gloss red, the red K-x is a bit of a let down.  It feels
like a scale model red plastic before you applied any airbrushing or
paint.


Thanks a bunch.  My gut feeling was that the red didn't live up to its  
potential.



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PESO - Crossing the Tracks

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
I wish I hadn't cut off her feet, but other than that I kind of like this one:

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2010/02/crossing-tracks.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread Larry Colen
It looks like I'm going to sell my K100 to a friend from the dojo.  In  
the process, I'm teaching him how to use the camera.  Going over the  
feature set it seems that the UI designers at Pentax tried to add a  
lot of features to make it easier to get a decent photo.  I realized  
that what I want is a camera that doesn't get in the way of getting a  
great photo.


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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:

 http://photoeverysooften.blogspot.com/2010/02/stalking-wild-pentaxian.html

Fun!

Not sure about that colour, though.  I mean, if it sells, I don't
begrudge or criticize anyone for choosing it.  If I were, for
instance, a teenage girl (and they were out of Hello Kitty models) it
might work.  I might, for instance, give it to my girlfriend (if I had
one) for Valentine's Day.

But for me, I prefer something a bit more stealthy - I'll take black, please...

;-)

cheers,
frank

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Re: Book advice please (Nude photography)

2010-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/2/10, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm not sure I can trust my instinct photographing naked women.

That's definitely a T-shirt.

Mark!

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RE: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread Bob W
It is almost certainly (a reproduction of?) an American primitive painting -
I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, just pointing out the resemblance to Las
Meninas (and Picasso's versions) which it might have triggered in your
picture memory. You might also be thinking about Picasso's Boy With A Dove.
http://www.worldgallery.co.uk/art-print/Child-with-a-Dove,-1901-25639.html

 
 Thanks Bob W, I thought I remembered some famous painting 
 like that - a boy in fancy dress outfit.  But John may be 
 right, it could be easily an early american primitive 
 painting and not a reproduction of a more famous work.  
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  From: Bob Sullivan
   Doug,
   Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the 
 flash series 
   several times but like the html version better.  Like 
 Christine, I 
   keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso 
   painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd 
 atire.  The 
   whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal 
 dress on the 
   antique sofa.
   Regards,  Bob S.
 
  Stylistically, it's Early American portraiture ... 18th century 
  equivalent of getting Uncle George to take family photos 
 because he 
  has a real camera.
 
  The painting is a primitive, un-schooled style - typical 
 of itinerant 
  American artists in the late colonial and early post 
 colonial period.
 
  If it's a known painter, it might be worth some money, but not 
  anything near as much as its value as a family heirloom.
 
  That's somebody's great-great-great-great ... grandma.
 
  Not necessarily.
 
  The pose and the dress resemble the Infanta in Las Meninas 
 by Velasquez.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas
 
  It's worth visiting Madrid just to see that one picture. 
 But you get a 
  whole load of Velasquez's in the same museum (the Prado), 
 and all the Goyas too!
 
  Picasso was obsessed by Velasquez and made a lot of very 
 interesting 
  and extraordinary studies of Las Meninas, which are in the Picasso 
  museum in
  Barcelona:
  http://www.bcn.cat/museupicasso/en/collection/mpb70-459.html
 
  Bob


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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Larry Colen


On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:03 PM, frank theriault wrote:


On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Bran Everseeking
bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:


http://photoeverysooften.blogspot.com/2010/02/stalking-wild-pentaxian.html


Fun!

Not sure about that colour, though.  I mean, if it sells, I don't
begrudge or criticize anyone for choosing it.  If I were, for
instance, a teenage girl (and they were out of Hello Kitty models) it
might work.  I might, for instance, give it to my girlfriend (if I had
one) for Valentine's Day.

But for me, I prefer something a bit more stealthy - I'll take  
black, please...


;-)


There are two ways that you could go with red, a vivid, in your face,  
put it on a Ferrari, or a set of high heels, ruby red, or a deep,  
tasteful red that would complement a black tuxedo.  Anything less than  
that is just a pimply faced fourteen year old trying to taunt you from  
across the room with jibes that were old when his grandfather was that  
age.


Rather than a half assed red, I'd rather have hello kitty pink, or  
dayglo chartreuse. I'll probably end up with the stormtrooper white.  
If nothing else, it'll be a great prop for science fiction  
conventions.  It does have a nice Stanley Kubrick 21st century feel to  
it.





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Re: Aperture 3 now available

2010-02-11 Thread steve harley

On 2010-02-11 09:45 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Whereas the Lightroom
workflow, with only minor differences, works out to be nearly exactly
what I came up with on my own using Bridge + Camera Raw + Photoshop,
before either Aperture or Lightroom were available.


that makes total sense (and is why i stated my preference as a personal 
one); i was a Photoshop jock in the early 90s, and am still very facile 
with Adobe apps, except i don't use Bridge; i also used iView Media Pro 
quite a bit and built media management tools in FileMaker; as Adobe has 
drifted into its own, OS-independent, interface paradigm, i've found the 
UI of Adobe apps to be less intuitively discoverable for me


intuitive doesn't necessarily contradict logical, it is based on the 
experience one already has; i suspect that if/when my usage becomes 
intensive, Lightroom might be the more effective UI; but i hope Apple 
remains competitive because Adobe needs that






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RE: GESO - 25

2010-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

From: Bob Sullivan

  Doug,
  Wow, that's a nice set of photos!  I've been thru the flash series 
  several times but like the html version better.  Like Christine, I 
  keep coming back to #8.  Isn't that an early Matise or Picasso 
  painting above?  It is memorable for the subject's odd atire.  The 
  whole scene is a sort of echo with the lad in formal dress on the 
  antique sofa.

  Regards,  Bob S.
 
 Stylistically, it's Early American portraiture ... 18th 
 century equivalent of getting Uncle George to take family 
 photos because he has a real camera.
 
 The painting is a primitive, un-schooled style - typical of 
 itinerant American artists in the late colonial and early 
 post colonial period.
 
 If it's a known painter, it might be worth some money, but 
 not anything near as much as its value as a family heirloom.
 
 That's somebody's great-great-great-great ... grandma.


Not necessarily. 


The pose and the dress resemble the Infanta in Las Meninas by Velasquez.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas

It's worth visiting Madrid just to see that one picture. But you get a whole
load of Velasquez's in the same museum (the Prado), and all the Goyas too!

Picasso was obsessed by Velasquez and made a lot of very interesting and
extraordinary studies of Las Meninas, which are in the Picasso museum in
Barcelona:
http://www.bcn.cat/museupicasso/en/collection/mpb70-459.html


Uh ... right. When was the last time you visited an ophthalmologist?

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Re: This one's for Bill Robb

2010-02-11 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Walter Hamler

Subject: OT: This one's for Bill Robb



HAR!!!
That ones going to make the rounds.


Funny but true story:

I had a Rottie named Leica for almost 11 years.
She slept nestled against me with her head on my left shoulder pretty much 
every night for her entire life.

Apparently she snored.
I wouldn't know, I never heard a thing.

My wife, on the other hand, just has to breath a little louder than normal 
and it wakes me up.


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Re: User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen 
Subject: User Interface goals



It looks like I'm going to sell my K100 to a friend from the dojo.  In  
the process, I'm teaching him how to use the camera.  Going over the  
feature set it seems that the UI designers at Pentax tried to add a  
lot of features to make it easier to get a decent photo.  I realized  
that what I want is a camera that doesn't get in the way of getting a  
great photo.


Buy a Linhof.

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Re: User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:19 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 Buy a Linhof.

LOL!
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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Bong Manayon
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:03 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Bran Everseeking
 bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote:

 http://photoeverysooften.blogspot.com/2010/02/stalking-wild-pentaxian.html

 Fun!

 Not sure about that colour, though.  I mean, if it sells, I don't
 begrudge or criticize anyone for choosing it.  If I were, for
 instance, a teenage girl (and they were out of Hello Kitty models) it
 might work.  I might, for instance, give it to my girlfriend (if I had
 one) for Valentine's Day.

 But for me, I prefer something a bit more stealthy - I'll take black, 
 please...

 ;-)

I'm not too particular about color too but I like the idea of walking
into my class with a white one and saying to my students how it goes
well with their Macs...

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lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread George Sinos
A few days ago I was walking to my car and slipped on ice.  The camera
bag broke my fall.  The DA 16-50 took most of the force.  It'll never
be the same.  It was attached to a K7 that seems none the worse for
the wear.  It looks like it's working fine, although I'm going to send
it in to have it checked out.

Here's a closeup of the damage.  Don't look if you're squeamish.
http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/

See you later, gs

George Sinos

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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: George Sinos 
Subject: lens bit the dust




A few days ago I was walking to my car and slipped on ice.  The camera
bag broke my fall.  The DA 16-50 took most of the force.  It'll never
be the same.  It was attached to a K7 that seems none the worse for
the wear.  It looks like it's working fine, although I'm going to send
it in to have it checked out.

Here's a closeup of the damage.  Don't look if you're squeamish.
http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/


It faired better than my Bronica did.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/Oops2.jpg

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Re: User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:02:40 -0800
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 It looks like I'm going to sell my K100 to a friend from the dojo.
 In the process, I'm teaching him how to use the camera.  Going over
 the feature set it seems that the UI designers at Pentax tried to add
 a lot of features to make it easier to get a decent photo.  I
 realized that what I want is a camera that doesn't get in the way of
 getting a great photo.
 

How could an option like Swtch dst msr pt ever get in the way?

Ira

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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread Walter Hamler
Holy Cow! How far did that one drop?

Walt

 It faired better than my Bronica did.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/Oops2.jpg

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Re: User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ira H. Bryant IV
irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:02:40 -0800
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 It looks like I'm going to sell my K100 to a friend from the dojo.
 In the process, I'm teaching him how to use the camera.  Going over
 the feature set it seems that the UI designers at Pentax tried to add
 a lot of features to make it easier to get a decent photo.  I
 realized that what I want is a camera that doesn't get in the way of
 getting a great photo.


 How could an option like Swtch dst msr pt ever get in the way?

 Ira


Pentax hadn't yet discovered that putting a big LCD on the back allows
intelligible CF descriptions. A pity, my Maxxum 7 (film camera, circa
2000) had this. Of course Minolta always was a little ahead of the
time, their first camera with a big LCD on the back was the Maxxum
9000 in 1985 whose Program Back Super 90 had a large LCD on the back,
although not a bitmapped one like modern versions.


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Peso, on track

2010-02-11 Thread Larry Colen
I finally stopped to shoot some pictures at Rincon crossing this  
afternoon.  I think that this is my favorite of the bunch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4350144172/sizes/o/

from:
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Re: Peso, on track

2010-02-11 Thread paul stenquist
I like that. Nice composition. Excellent rendering.
Paul
On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I finally stopped to shoot some pictures at Rincon crossing this afternoon.  
 I think that this is my favorite of the bunch:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4350144172/sizes/o/
 
 from:
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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread Miserere
It looks like it's still falling.

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On 11/02/2010, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Holy Cow! How far did that one drop?

 Walt

 It faired better than my Bronica did.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/Oops2.jpg

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Re: Peso, on track

2010-02-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Larry,

Rather different perspective - it increases the interest level.
Nicely done.

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Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:22:27 PM, you wrote:

LC I finally stopped to shoot some pictures at Rincon crossing this  
LC afternoon.  I think that this is my favorite of the bunch:
LC http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4350144172/sizes/o/

LC from:
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Re: PESO - Evening in Rome

2010-02-11 Thread Rick Womer


--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


 On 10/2/10, Rick Womer,
 discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Another escape from blowing, drifting snow:  A
 warm May evening on a
 back street in Rome:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10666407
 
 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350)
 
 Excellent. The kind of picture you die for.
 

Well, Cotty, maybe you would... but for me it's just a photo.

I genuinely appreciate the accolades, however!

Rick

P.S. Want some snow?


  


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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread Rick Womer
Send the lens in too.  The repair might be cheaper than a new one.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Thu, 2/11/10, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 A few days ago I was walking to my
 car and slipped on ice.  The camera
 bag broke my fall.  The DA 16-50 took most of the
 force.  It'll never
 be the same.  It was attached to a K7 that seems none
 the worse for
 the wear.  It looks like it's working fine, although
 I'm going to send
 it in to have it checked out.
 
 Here's a closeup of the damage.  Don't look if you're
 squeamish.
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/
 
 See you later, gs
 
 George Sinos
 
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Re: Peso, on track

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I finally stopped to shoot some pictures at Rincon crossing this afternoon.
  I think that this is my favorite of the bunch:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4350144172/sizes/o/

 from:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623287719029/
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Very well composed and rendered.

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Re: User Interface goals

2010-02-11 Thread Rick Womer
Mark!!

--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Ira H. Bryant IV irabry...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 How could an option like Swtch dst msr pt ever get in the
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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:14 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 Here's a closeup of the damage.  Don't look if you're squeamish.
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/
snip

Oh the humanity!

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Re: Peso, on track

2010-02-11 Thread Jack Davis
Obviously, not survivors. =(

Jack

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 From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: Peso, on track
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:22 PM
 I finally stopped to shoot some
 pictures at Rincon crossing this afternoon.  I think
 that this is my favorite of the bunch:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4350144172/sizes/o/
 
 from:
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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman

Ouch :-(

On 2/12/2010 2:14 AM, George Sinos wrote:

A few days ago I was walking to my car and slipped on ice.  The camera
bag broke my fall.  The DA 16-50 took most of the force.  It'll never
be the same.  It was attached to a K7 that seems none the worse for
the wear.  It looks like it's working fine, although I'm going to send
it in to have it checked out.

Here's a closeup of the damage.  Don't look if you're squeamish.
http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/

See you later, gs

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Re: lens bit the dust

2010-02-11 Thread Boris Liberman

Major ouch...

On 2/12/2010 2:19 AM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: lens bit the
dust



A few days ago I was walking to my car and slipped on ice. The camera
bag broke my fall. The DA 16-50 took most of the force. It'll never
be the same. It was attached to a K7 that seems none the worse for
the wear. It looks like it's working fine, although I'm going to send
it in to have it checked out.

Here's a closeup of the damage. Don't look if you're squeamish.
http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/


It faired better than my Bronica did.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/Oops2.jpg

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Re: Salon des Refus?s for the PDML book

2010-02-11 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:01:32 -0500
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 On 1/27/2010 12:37 PM, Derby Chang wrote:
  
   Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy.
  
   After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of
   shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery
   salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book?
   I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery.
 
 I may have already replied to this once, but I'd be OK with mine
 being in there.
 

I'd be okay as long as the excess shots were sharpened... or at least
we could submit sharpened shots to be displayed. I wouldn't want the
unsharpened shots I submitted to be displayed as is.

Ira

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:54:17 -0800
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 Thanks a bunch.  My gut feeling was that the red didn't live up to
 its potential.

I would still buy the red if the kx itself would not get lost between
my first and second fingers.  darned tiny.

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Re: PESO: Stalking the Wild Pentaxian

2010-02-11 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:03:52 -0500
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 But for me, I prefer something a bit more stealthy - I'll take black,
 please...
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank

its oddly counter intuitive but out on the street no one paid attention
to a friend with the blue but got shy when I lifted the K10D  have not
shot street with the new red one around.  My theory if that people
thinks the coloured ones are toys and do not take them seriously.

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